The Evolution of Hyrule [Part 1] - Zelda Theory
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- Let's take a deep dive into the evolution of Hyrule. It's history, and especially the changes in it's geography. This video covers the Unified timeline. Spanning from Skyward Sword to Ocarina of Time.
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this man has more zelda knowledge than miyamoto himself i swear
This man has more knowledge than the Goddess Hylia
Myamoto doesn't have any, he barely accepted that fun games can also be fun because they have a good Story. Mario still suffers a goddamn lot under this (let's be honest) Boomer
@@seretith3513 are you saying that a mario story is a great idea? I beg to differ, I've seen the movie.
@@ardd.c.8113 that's a Movie, not a Game
And there are Two (no just one since Alphadream is no more) Legendary series that suffered everytime a new Idea, both for Worldbuilding and Story came up in the Development. Because Miyamoto deleted that Ideas.
@@ardd.c.8113 let's take Origami king for example : you can literally see how the devs tryed hard af to fullfill Fancritic without risking to get fired
They managed to pull a sad death scene, but only because it's a Bob Omb
"Today, on National Geographic, we explore the great land of Hyrule!"
The map's a mess, nothing's consistent, and everything swaps between at least three different names, but you can fit so many adventures, relics, civilizations, and confusing timelines in it that none of that really matters.
@@wutmagna7222 Hi. I'm Rick Steves giving you the best of Greater Hyrule! Today we will be playing the accordion with a talking bird! Explore some ancient shrines and go food tasting with Link's unique cooking skills! We will also show off some ancient battles with machines! How to climb extremely high walls without proper safety equipment,and how to capture horses the wrong way!
and here we see a wild hero in its natural habitat. the hero is largely known for its aggressive behavior and taking very long naps. The hero has an extensive diet consisting of literally anything. a truly fascinating creature.
This is one of the best comments I have seen ever. ❤😂
@@autumin6843 And wildlife tends to vanish around the hero.
Hylia when Demise appears: "Ascend! Ascend ascend ascend ascend with Gorb!"
Zelda when Link kills Demise: "Descend! Descend descend descend descend with Gorb!"
huh ;-;
Gorb
Hollow Knight reference. Nice
Looks like someone's getting dream nailed
Is that a mf Hollow Knight reference!?
One of my theories is that since the world is not mapped, there is no true north, or that maybe if there is a true north, that maybe not all maps north is directly up. A lot of maps in history rotated their orientation, in fact that is where the word orientation comes from, it means to turn the map so east (or another direction, usually east) is up on the map. This is why the Orient is called such, because on these rotated maps, the East was at the top of the map, so it was what they oriented the rest of the map with, the East. So the East is the orient.
That is a long way of saying map making is a complex art and there is no way to guarantee that up on all of these maps is north, meaning death mountain may not haved moved that much if the map had just been tilted like 20 degrees from game to game. Tectonics could have been a factor for sure, its clear that the hyrulean civilization has been around far longer than all of human civilization has. Human civilization has only been around for about 10,000 years, BotW's single time skip was that long, so it is possible tectonics had a factor. However I think that map tilting is also a good factor because most objects are relatively in relation to each other if you take that into account. It also is possible that lake hylia is actually a different lake in some games and its just what the locals call it because of their religion. Who knows
I buy into that as part of my personal theory. I treat death mountain as up or north no matter how the map is aligned. Like you say what Hylian's call north or up can easily change. Borders of the country can change. The lake itself can shrink or grow based on climate. The lost woods are frequently shown to manipulate space, so perhaps they have the ability to move within the magic of the game universe. They frequently seem to show up wherever the Master Sword is whenever its not sufficiently defended by Hylians.
You keep the map rotated with DM as North, Lake Hylia as South, most of the rest lines up close enough assuming manmade places get moved time to time due to war, climate, disasters, etc or even rebuilding after Ganon attacks between the ages we play.
The direction of North has varied greatly between games. For example between Zelda 1 and 2 we see the world map expanded significantly with the Z1's region now found in the SW corner. The Z2 map now includes Hyrule as both a mainland and large island. As later games established, this island is what became the kingdom of Hyrule. Much as Eldin Mountain was renamed, the Death Mountain in Z2 is on the mainland. Oddly enough though, the island has a mountain range called Valley of Death with a graveyard at the foot of the trail through the mountain range. A feature later associated with Death Mountain.
It would seem like the Western direction on the Z2 map became North in later games and this is heavily supported by key geographical landmarks. If you rotate the map, this causes the ocean to be along the east and southern side of Hyrule as featured in BotW. The Z2 lake with Fairy fountain is then located where you find Zora's domain in later games and the Palace on the Sea becomes where the Gerudo Desert is usually located. Given that we know the desert was once taken over by the ocean due to being so close to sea-level it would make sense it could flood again. We also see on the Z2 map has a central field where Nabooru Town is located much like Hyrule Field and nearby we see a forest connected to these grasslands by the Northern Cave much like the Kokiri Forest is separated from central Hyrule in later games.
@@RhysStorm The Temple of Time did end up in the Lost Woods in TP. I think.
I just made a post about this
Ocarina of Time:
Temple faces West
Castle is North of Temple
Market Fountain is West of Temple
Sunrise is East
Sunset is West
Breath of the Wild:
Temple faces North
Castle (Eastern Abbey) is East of Temple
Market Fountain is North of Temple
Sunrise is South
Sunset is North
Ocarina of Time (Rotated 90 Degrees Clockwise / New Magnetic North)
Temple faces North
Castle is East of Temple
Market Fountain is North of Temple
Sunrise is South
Sunset is North
6 and 6 6
I enjoyed this Geography of Hyrule class at the University of TH-cam. Can’t wait for our next class! 😁
Good evening and welcome to your first class of LOZ 138, Hyrulian Geography. Please turn to page 27 in your textbook and let us begin.
@@wutmagna7222 😂
I would go back for my Masters if this existed
"We named the planets after greek gods"
Ancient greeks: *triggered*
Uranus, being the only planet named after a greek god: *cries*
This, the planets are names after Roman Gods.
I also noticed this... I took it he meant "constellations" and "Greco-Roman mythology"
@@DanX_27 yeah, understandable, especially since we link the greeks to astronomy inherently. Thats why I like, that when Uranus was discovered, they decided to do a greek name, and not named it by an offbrand god lol
Roman gods are just plagiarized Greek gods anyway.
Except even Uranus isn't Greek. The actual Greek Titan's name is Ouranos, and they used the Romanized spelling (Uranus) instead.
A person with an unbalanced heart shatters the complete Triforce into three parts, not necessarily evil.
Good catch
They need to have all the aspects of the triforce to obtain it, I guess Ganondorf didn't have wisdom.
@@nworder4life He manipulated the king planed a lot of things, let other people and creatures do the work and only started getting his own hands dirty at the very end. I think it takes a lot of wisdom to get that far but seeing how he did it (using others even link to a extend) makes me think that he lacks courage.
@@brotbrotsen1100 Mhh maybe? But that's not necessarily wisdom, but intelligence, cleverness and using strategies to deceive power figures. Not exactly wisdom.
@@Egg-zactly He also knew about the triforce, where he can obtain it, where the master sword is, who the sages are before some of them knew that they are sages and were the temples are located. I'd say he had a lot of wisdom
Happy Holidays everyone! ^^
One more video to go, and then it's a wrap for 2020!
YOU ARE A GENIUS!
Impa is also chosen by the goddess? HAPPY HOLIDAYS
I can easily explain how an entire forest can move from one location to the next. I offer you the real world phenomenon of Forest Migration. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_migration
@SwagMazterRohan The world is a mysterious and fascinating place.
On the short list of great things that happened during 2020, discovering your channel was one of them. Happy Holidays.
The Faron region is sometimes referred to as a sea of trees in Breath of the Wild and Age of Calamity, though its possibly just a small nod to Four Swords.
Is it? I don’t think I caught that
Another possible nod is the Stone Talus enemy being a reference to Talus Cave.
Hyrule’s tectonic plates are just like me when I’m asleep. I wake up and I’m upside down and on the other side of the bed.
My theory regarding the Skyward Sword map not matching up with others for example Ocarina's is because there are only 4 big chunks of locations and we don't know how far they are away from each other since between in unexplored area. The reason why Eldin volcano is to the North, the dessert is to the west and the lake to the east could be because of simple estimating. After all all we could see from Hyrule was from above, maybe Eldin volcano was a bit more north-east of the Sealed Temple and we'd never really know for sure. So simply put the map of Skyward Sword is just an estimation of where the locations are.
I feel like the Kikwi became the Kokiri and finally the Koroks since the name structure follows fairly close
it makes sense,doesnt it?
I don't think this is possible. The Korok/Kokiri are specifically referred to as "forest spirits" and that they were created by the Great Deku Tree whereas the Kikwi appear to be organic creatures devoid of any magic or spiritual elements. It's likely that the Kikwi either died off or more than likely simply migrated elsewhere after the Hylians began inhabiting the surface again.
@@davisbowe8668 there's no actual proof that the kokiri are created by the great deku tree,I personally believe that they evolved to look a lot like hylians.
I think the Hyrulean people get the Lost Woods exact location wrong in most games except Breath of the wild (due to Sheikah science) as there are roads through the woods that lead to other locations far away from the Lost woods itself
In some games its because of the Kokiri/Koroks or the Deku tree in others its the work of spirits like Poes
If one Hyrulean took a trip through a forest in Southern hyrule they could suddenly end up in Akkala
If there’s one thing we Zelda fans can never get enough of, it’s lore.
Just inject all of it into my bloodstream please
An interesting thing to note. 5:16 ; Demise's dialogue suggests the Link in Skyward sword is *not* Hylia's first knight. That the first *knight* was not *human* which is what he calls Link. Suggesting he is somehow either a reincarnation of something as well, or some completely new force that starts it's reincarnation cycle with the advent of Demise's fall.
the fierce deity got em
@@acedzombo3007 A deity being another deity’s knight and not getting a mention.
TOTK validates this opinion with the whole Legendary Hero character
I feel like the map changes every game because the games take place thousands years apart. so the castle moves and they rename places.
What about literal geographic changes like mountains appearing out of nowhere.
@@totallyahuman5055 earthquakes maybe? Maybe they grow legs or something and move. Who knows.
@@totallyahuman5055 Could have been an ice age for a few thousand years and created a whole new ass mountain with the all the ice moving the terrain and such
I tend to assume that the word "legend" really applies to all the games- legends change and shift depending on who is telling them and when. If in one story, death mountain is in a slightly different location, its just because this "telling" of the legend is a little murky or different for whatever reason. I dont worry too much about the continuity of the geography for that reason.
We also see examples in Chinese and Japanese history (and many many other places) of the capital of an empire or country moving depending on who is in charge. Royal families sometimes flee or just leave one area and rule from other palaces, etc. For example royals from different places marry each other, form alliances, and sometimes that means the capital changes places
@@totallyahuman5055 That can be easily explained. Take a look at a city, countryside or town 100 years ago. Then, take a look at how they appear presently. Many things can change in only 20 years time. Things can be drastically different in 100 or 1000 years.
I believe it’s called “the legend” of Zelda for a reason. When stories get passed down through time, details get messy. Every lake Hylia is the same, every death mountain and castle. Racists called zora monsters, and others didn’t know that Tito were intelligent. The legends of a childlike race of tree people living in the forest. These are all details that are very similar. It’s all the same story. The same legend
I do feel like this is part of the inspiration of the series (it's my understanding that this is a common idea in Japanese mythology, and it explains why so many games are variations on the "Zelda has been kidnapped, Link go save her" plot), though the games are definitively still all part of continuity to each other as fitting.
After all, if each and every game (barring obvious exceptions like Majora's Mask or Phantom Hourglass) was supposed to be the same exact events but retold and corrupted, then Nintendo wouldn't have had a reason to talk about how the games fit in continuity with each other as far back as A Link to the Past; the third game in the series.
A lot of people say the timeline was completely pulled out of Nintendo's ass for Hyrule Historia because of fan demand and that the series was never supposed to fit together in any way, but the evidence doesn't seem to match that hypothesis in my eyes. I think it's more likely that (in addition to them being inspired by what you mentioned) the timeline and continuity is simply a secondary or even tertiary priority to them, with making sure the games feel fun and distinct, and that the locations are memorable being bigger concerns.
Continuity is still a factor they take into account I feel (e.g. Wind Waker is clearly supposed to take place after OoT, you don't need to do theory-crafting to figure that out), but it is nowhere near as large a concern for them as the fans seem to want it to be.
Which is why I reject the “timeline”.
technically speciesism at that point
@@LonelySpaceDetective This is 100% correct but I think at this point fan demand may turn those tables. Especially since story and lore and, well...serialization in general is the norm now. I think from Breath of the Wild on, more attention will be paid to continuity.
Or maybe I'm just an optimist.
@@river_acheron I suspect the direction Nintendo wants to go is treating Breath of the Wild and onward as a whole separate continuity practically, and abandoning the original timelines outside of the occasional re-release, remake or remaster. A soft reboot if you will, though harder than most soft reboots.
That isn't necessarily incompatible with what you said, but my point is that I bet whatever they do with BotW and its sequels won't really matter for the earlier games.
It doesn't split if their heart is "evil" or not. The triforce doesn't judge someone on their moral values. It splits if their heart isn't balanced in the virtues of power wisdom and courage.
this was a long time ago,before the lore was confirmed
This gets me wondering. With all this talk going around about the incarnation cycle. I wonder if Impa is in on it too?? She keeps reappearing throughout the series too in different iterations. What about her origins and that of the sheika?
my personal theory is that when Demise used his final words to curse link and zelda into their eternal reincarnations, he also cursed groose and impa with them. his specific wording was “you people”, implying more than just link and zelda. groose and impa are both present at the sealed temple with zelda when demise casts his curse. seeing as groose is the only male with red hair and yellow eyes, maybe the whole 1 male gerudo being born every 100 years rule stems from demise’s curse of reincarnation? that would explain why impa keeps showing up as well, and why ganondorf is always reincarnated as a gerudo rather than a demon.
To add on this me and my husband have discussed and it seems like the curse that causes link and Zelda and others to be reincarnated, is pulling in more people possible with every new incarcerate cycle. Like if ruto from Oot got reincarnated and eventually became botws mipha. It's possible that anyone who aids the original few cursed in defeating their iteration of demise/Ganon then becomes cursed themselves. That's totally speculation tho
Totally valid, but I don't like the idea that Mipha is a Zora princess because millions of years ago there was another Zora who was also a princess, or that Impa is a Sheikah because billions of years ago another Sheikah named Impa existed. Either Impa is a name or a title. It could be that there was a prominent Impa at one time, so Impa became a popular name. I imagine if a Kaleb saved Canada or Britain or the US from impending doom, there'd suddenly be a lot more people named Kaleb. Or, it could simply be the Sheikah word for "leader" or "wise one" or something, in which case not even gender plays a part in who is and is not Impa.
@@zibdle9476 I don’t think the male Gerudo is a reincarnation. If I remember correctly, Ganondorf isn’t killed in the games only sealed, so he wouldn’t be able to be reincarnated. In BOTW, one of the gerudo says that there are still male gerudo being born, they are just rare, or something to that effect.
@@supplyguy8765 What about Twilight princess?
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Love the Video! Great content as always!! As a Geographer, I really appreciated you bringing up Plate Tectonics too. I have a little addition to the theory, based on my knowledge of Plate Tectonics and Volcanism; here is my best explanation of why Death Mountain, or other mountains, would shift. A phenomena called 'Hotspot Volcanism' -- essentially, there is a giant plume of very, very hot magma underneath the Earth's crust, creating a giant volcanic mountain chains, such as Death Mountain. As the Tectonic Plate shifts in location, the magma plume stays relatively still, creating new volcanic mountains in the process -- with the older mountains slowly eroding over time (take the Hawaiian Islands as an example, the biggest, and youngest island is above, or nearly above the plume, with each island getting smaller, due to erosion, as you get further down the chain).
So, in the case of Hyrule's geography, I *think* Death Mountain due to hotspot volcanism. With the plume residing somewhere to the North of Hyrule Castle, and the tectonic boundary separating the two areas, the 'Hyrulean Plate' and the 'Goron Plate' being a "Transform Boundary", where the plates are sliding past each other. With the both plates moving in the same direction (SE), but the Goron Plate going faster, relative to the Hyrulean Plate.
Its been a while since I've taken Geology courses, but I think this is why Death Mountain moved. But, its probably just inconsistency from Nintendo :)
Happy Holidays!
Happy holidays! And thank you so much for this amazing insight. I absolutely LOVE researching and reading about stuff like this. The earth is so dynamic and interesting. Your knowlegde is greatly appreciated. I wish I could've talked to someone in your field before I made the video ^^
@@MonsterMaze yeah, this video has more-or-less sent me spiraling down a rabbit hole of trying to make sense of Hyrule's geography. Looking into it, based on BotW's map, it is either a REALLY complicated set of plate boundaries or it is Nintendo just messing around with the locations of places, in addition to the renaming of places, or a wild combination of the three. Either way, its a fun thought experiment. Cheers!
On this subject, there's an excellent speculative world map series that was featured on r/TrueZelda (I wish I could give credit to the user, but it's a little obscure and I was only able to find the Imgur album for now. If anyone recognizes it or wants to do some digging feel free!): m.imgur.com/r/truezelda/HNNba
The amazing thing is that this map was made pre-BotW but it's shockingly compatible with the BotW map, especially if you take into account geographical differences tens of thousands of years after any known game.
There are some inconsistencies that I think you had better thought out, namely making sure the OoT castle was in the right place (unless I'm reading the map wrong, it's not correct in the speculative maps), but it might be an interesting bit of added research before the next installments?
I also had a similar thought about Death mountain being caused by a hotspot. I would be reluctant to say that Death Mountain and the rest of hyrule are on two different plates, because we don't see much evidence of faulting. Rather, I would think the entirety of hyrule is on a plate that is moving Northwest, on top of a stationary hotspot (very similar to the formation of Hawaii) which is why Death Mountain would move Southeast.
Not only does the geography and geology of a setting can change over time, *CLIMATE* can change too: what is a desert now can become a jungle in a few hundred thousand years (or quicker if a species releases greenhouse gases into the atmosphere). Also languages change quickly as well over time so if one forest or some place has a new name that would explain it. Many of these critters change quickly too so maybe evolution happens fast because of so much space/time continuum shenanigans. Things to consider as you explore this series.
I read the title as "Evolution of Zelda Theory" at first. I had a good laugh about it afterwards
New idea for a video? ;)
That seems a bit more in line with a Dr. Wily video, "Evolution of Princess Zelda" something or other.
@@MonsterMaze yes
Goodness, your videos just seem to have higher and higher production values every time a new one is released. Your custom maps and landscape shots always blow me away, and that's to say nothing of the content itself. I say it every time, but truly fantastic stuff.
Thank you so much for the kind words!
This is so good!
I’m starting to believe that Hyrule’s a real place...
Man, I wish all history documentaries were this entertaining.
I particularly like the Lake Hylia explanation. Considering we have multiple cities named Alexandria in real life, all named after Alexander the Great, the Hylians naming multiple lakes Lake Hylia after Hylia isn't such an outlandish concept.
Is this THE Hyrule's geography evolution breakdown I have always wanted to see? I'm very excited to watch!
Now that “they find a forest that’s easy to get lost in and call it the lost woods” part is reminiscent of Asgore.
Specifically the fact that he’s bad at naming.
This is just amazing. Geography has always been my favorite part of Zelda Lore- I love piecing together how locations and regions are linked! Its just impossible for me to ignore the connections between areas seen thought the games, so I'm so glad you've started this series. It's so cool to see somebody else's ideas regarding the matter. I cant wait for the other videos to come out! Keep up the amazing content!
With what you said about the lost woods, I think it's reasonable to say that there's actually two primary woods in Hyrule. The Lost Woods to the north/north-west as we see in ALttP and ALBW, and the Faron Woods to the south-east as seen in OoT and TP and that the names of the woods overlapping are merely a result of the Hylian Kingdoms expansion over time, similar to how we have 'York' in the UK and 'New York' in the US, or tones of places all called Victoria. In Breath of the Wild we can see both the Lost Woods and the Faron Woods in their respective locations.
Thank you for taking the time at the beginning of your video to acknowledge the practicality of game development and design and then say that you were going to theorize anyway because it was fun. As a casual Zelda fan I find these theories fascinating but - the artist, filmmaker, and aspiring game designer inside me can sometimes get turned off by the intensity and overzealousness that theorists often have when presenting their ideas.
By acknowledging the actual, real world reasons - and then moving forward anyway - you made this super entertaining and accessible for me.
THANK YOU
didn’t even watch it yet but i liked it because ik it’s gonna be great
that is the way of monster maze
so question
the time of creation when the goddesses made everything
it would of been a time before recorded history and everything from that time would be just guessing
but if din created the earth in the legend
would that mean the world that hyrule is on is called din
and the sun would be nayru as the sun appears when nayru creates law
Interesting idea
How does Farore fit into all this?
din = is the planet which "cultivated the land and created the red earth"
nayru = the sun that "poured her wisdom onto the earth and gave the spirit of law to the world"
farore = life in general? she did "produced all life forms who would uphold the law"
im not entirely set on that though
din and nayru were easy to place due to them representing inanimate objects
while farore doesnt represent anyone individual thing
something else i have noticed is that ganon, zelda/hylia and link could also be connected to this
ganon being the harsh unforgiving nature and repetition of the world (din)
zelda/hylia being the light of the sun (nayru)
and link being the hope of life (farore)
@@tylerherr4288 You could be right about the planet being called Din, but i find Nayru being their name for the sun harder to accept.
After all, she is a water-associated goddess. I do think she is related to the celestial bodies though, as their existence plays a part in the laws of gravity and the tides amungst other things. Additionally, the Sheikah are somewhat obsessed with the stars, and seem to gain some of their knowledge from them. Nayru is the goddess of wisdom, after all, so it would make sense for their fixation on space.
As for Farore, I agree that she is the creator of life. According to the lore recited by the Great Deku Tree, she poured her spirit into the land and gave it life. Forest regions are home to many land spirits such as Koroks and Faries, who possess magic that can enhance armor, heal wounds, or revive a deceased horse.
There is a lot more about those three goddesses that I have theories about, so im kinda happy to share it at an appropriate time!
@@moonflower1717 my only point for the sun being nayru is that the sun didnt seem to exist till nayru did her thing in the deku trees story
and its probably just me looking for any sort of connection
but from a chemistry standpoint
both water and stars has hydrogen in them so i dont think its too far of a stretch
Those two kids were known in the future as the creators of the spiritual succesor of the zelda franchise... ok i'm kidding, i'm not a time traveller.... or am I?
If so, then when will BotW's sequel release?
@@wutmagna7222 This timeline may be slightly different but exactly the 4th week of June 2021
(i'll laugh if i'm on point XD)
@@BlaxeFrost-X God that’s so early man idk
@@rhettmitchell Next year is dedicated to the Zelda Franchise, and it will be using the same models and artstyle (ergo, the same engine) than breath of the wild and age of calamity, right?? I believe trailers will start before summer 2021
@@BlaxeFrost-X well, the second trailer for botw 2 came out during the month of June 2021, but no game until 2022. :(
I’m very interested in how the Hyrule will be and how they will change it in the Botw sequel... fantastic video as always
You brave soul. You’re actually gonna tackle this one.
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...personally as a loooong time Zelda Player/Fan? I’d rather see Hyrule actually geographically consistant even if the regions themselves vary drastically over time (lakes and seas becoming plains or deserts then back to bodies of water again; Zora River carving DEEP gorges and canyons; Death Mountain having periods of fertile greenery and lava-scorched hellscapes) and seeing Other Worlds besides Hyrule more often.
Regions beyond Hyrule have long been a series staple for over two decades now and add much-needed variety into a franchise this long-running. I really wish Devs and the fanbase would embrace them (and Actually Same but Changing Hyrule Geography) a bit more.
I don’t care about Lake Hylia being the same nearly barren area just to have it shoehorned back in at random. I want to see it in the same place but Bigger, with Zora Dwellings and maybe a trade network or fishing villages.
I want to explore places like Holodrum and Labrynna and more vague regions like Koholint and Termina again.
Or places that are named in homage (New Hyrule) but we know simply aren’t those same places from Old Hyrule
As someone who loves Zelda, Geography, and History, this is amazing for me :)
16:29 if we rotate the map about 90 degrees, it sort of lines up with the northeast corner of the map in Breath of the Wild. Death Mountain is obviously Death Mountain, the Sea of Trees could correspond to Akkala, and Talus Cave looks a lot like Zora’s Domain.
Also, with the possibility of events like the Upheaval, there’s no telling what sort of wacky ways the geography would change over time
Great vid. This felt like a zelda lore breakdown and a geography lesson at the same time xD
Geography is pretty pog.
Like if you do some research you can actually find that botw's lake hylia has its source at zora's domain
I’ve theorized Lake Hylia is the crater left by skyloft being raised.
Skyloft drops back to the same place it rose from at the end of Skyward Sword
@@TotalInsanity4 welp
Well if that's true then skyloft must have been really wide
well, the only location that must be the same in most games is the master sword pedestal, on the temple of time, which by the time of tp or alttp was engulfed by the forest, but it's the exact same location where skyloft lies
That never happened, it’s implied Skyloft is still floating by the time of BotW.
Dude this was amazing and I can't wait for more. I always love to read/hear about Zelda lore on the macro level and your high quality videos are always a blast to watch
I really do enjoy your videos and are happy to hear that this is a new series!
I LOVE this idea and I'm very glad this is becoming a series! I love geography and maps and all that stuff, so when I saw a 30 minute Moster Maze video on the subject, you better believe I was excited! I can't wait to see the rest of the series, you videos are so incredibly well done, I can't wait to see how far your channel will go in the future! Keep up the awesome work :)
This was the video that got me to subscribe. Hyrule's geography has long been an obsession of mine, so to see that someone else did a video that had been in my head since Skyward Sword came out was really awesome. Now I'm rewatching it for research purposes.
Insta-like just due to the length! I appreciate the time and effort put into all your videos, but this is an awesome concept! Happiest of holiday seasons to you and thanks for giving us all some amazing content to enjoy during this rough time! ❤️
Absolutely loved this. I’ve been very curious about the extreme changes lately .
Btw that shoutout to those kids at the end was so nice of you.
Love this video! The maps, graphs and explanations are so on point! Looking forward for more!
For sure dude this needed to be a series! Looking foward to it and your hard work
Omg I'm so excited for this mini series!! I think about this dang map all the time and how it's moving and I guess just.... Forgot the real life concept of plate tectonics. Always so blown away by the original graphics for each video and the effort you put in 💞👍🏻 Can't wait for the next one!!
This was an amazing video! Very funny and definitely subscribed from this video alone! I hope every other video holds up!
This certainly was worth the watch. I love how you can connect things and make sense of the lore in the different games, it's fascinating! :D
Not only is this video interesting, the request was so sweet it almost gave me a cavity or two. :-) I've been curious about the whole map-changings across the games as well, and have wondered what others thought of it, so I'm so glad you've made this video and I'll be watching the others in the miniseries. :-)
Absolutely love the map graphics you used in this video. Great work!
This was incredible!! Thanks for putting so much work into this!!
Dang monster maze is pretty freakin smart. Merry Christmas to you and you do an amazingly great job on your videos!!!
This is a great video! Really detailed and amazing and it made it all the better for the reason it was made! Loved it so much!
Happy holidays!
I absolutely LOVE these fictional history lessons. Thanks for brightening up an already great day!
Also, hearing that there's going to be a whole series of these made my year!
Merry Christmas!
There are two other explanations for map differences between Skyward Sword and Ocarina:
1) Skyward Sword's map is inaccurate for convenience and/or aesthetics. This would explain why there is no representation of what is present between the mapped territories; the map is meant to only roughly reflects the real positions, rotations, and even scales of the territories.
2) Magnetic north shifts over time. Rotating Skyward's map a bit will get it to line up better with Ocarina's map.
Okay, your ending have me a huge smile. What an awesome call out to Dominic and Elijah. Way to go!
Part one !? yeah, that’s so exciting and I can’t wait for more. Please keep up the good work.
First off, Merry Christmas Don!
Secondly, thank you for another amazing video! You just keep cranking out awesomeness.
Merry Christmas to you too!
This is beautiful!
Your work is extraordinary, I love this channel & proud to be a zelda fan since I was little ❤️
This is an awesome work, I love the part about plate tectonics and how you actually sought out footage and images in that research. My own theory about why the locations always change is the idea that Zelda is a legend. It's a story, told over and over again, and like many stories, it isn't important WHERE the Lost Woods is, it's that there IS a Lost Woods. I can see the appeal of wanting to literally answer the questions though, which is why I seek out this content.
I've been waiting years for someone to do something like this thank you I love it
Thank you for this.
And merry Christmas!
I would have had straight A’s if history class was this interesting back in the day. Masterclass video, brother!
I like to think that so much time passes between Zelda games that the geography changes. It can happen, maybe weathering, erosion, and other things that cause landscape changes happen much quicker in the Zelda universe than IRL. The people just keep naming the new landmarks after the goddesses. Also, structures can be torn down or built for any number of reasons.
Fabulous video! Can't wait to see the rest! Love your channel. 🎄
My nickname came from my brothers after playing Skyward Sword. The little Remlit Mia was very cute but kinda scary, and I guess since I’m the (evil lord) youngest of my siblings with a name similar to Mia, my brothers called me “Mia” after the Remlit in Skyward Sword.
Now I’m 20 and that’s just my nickname and Skyward Sword is probably my favorite Zelda game. Idk if that’s interesting or not lol
They used to terrify me and i would absolutely avoid nighttime in skyloft to the max because of them 😂
@@cajunseasoning1846 Lol same
SERIES SERIES SERIES AAAAA This is fantastic! Can't wait for the next one!
Wholesome content rn Monster Maze, merry Christmas to all Hyrule & all if you!
This once again shows why you are truly a special individual among the TH-cam Zelda theorists.
You are able to explain such a big and complex topic so well and in a calm way that makes it easily understandable. Your (always well-made) graphics and animations help a lot, too.
But what I like most about you is that you are completely aware that all of this is just... well... total nonsense, to be honest :D Whereas other Zelda theorists act as if their theory definitely has to be the one thing that the developers must have had in their mind, you are aware that in reality it worked differently - but nontheless you love to find those theories, even if they can be overwhelming even for you at times. This is something that can be noticed in several videos of you, and I really like that, because it makes everything more light-hearted and down-to-earth.
Oh, and while I'm at the topic: The other thing I really love(d) about you is the humor you sprinkle into your videos at times. However, unfortunately this has become very scarce in the last months. Would appreciate it a lot if you returned a bit of the humor that you used in your earliest videos :)
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I like this format you've been using.
Great work!
And speaking of Zelda fan parents, I haven't seen her in a while, but one of my coworkers is named Zora.
Great video! I was one of your first subs, and I must say- this was one of your best videos thus far.
Loving your lore videos; I can just turn on and get through my chores and work listening to them. Thanks!
More of a technicality, but the planets are actually named after the Roman equivalents of the Greek pantheon. ☺️
Was definitely worth the watch! I love watching your videos!!
Monster Maze and Zeltik are the best Zelda theorists on TH-cam! Love the content on both your channels and presentation styles.
Part one? Woof. This is a big project to take on, but I'm excited to see how it develops!!
Here’s an idea to explain why the Realm of Memories shows memories of the future
As our good old friend Einstein once said, time is relative, and given how time travel and visions are a major part of Zelda as a whole, perhaps any sort of illusory realm which draws upon one’s memories has a chance to draw upon a memory of the future, like Aang seeing Toph in Avatar
I absolutely love this theory about the naming convention for landmarks, particularly the one about Lake Hylia 👍
Just discovered this channel now I have something to binge watch this afternoon.
i love this video, and the depth you go into! my personal theories align with your a lot. imo things like the lost woods moving around is actually up to hylians being forced to move around so much, they were just taking the landmarks names with them
The issue with using forests as a point of reference is really unwise though as Nintendo move their woodlands around just as much as real forests change in the real world. BotW is a prime example of this as the Deku Tree itself hasn't always been associated with the Lost Woods and the areas named the Lost Woods have varied significantly over the games. It's best to see the location of woodlands as a bonus to support theories if they are found in the right place rather than being the main supporting feature of a theory.
12:03 volcanos can go dormant or no longer active (when the lava supply is moved somewhere else. Thus also known as a "dead volcano") so that might be the same eldin mountain, but its ether dormant or dead. The missing lava in the goron region can be scientificly explaned
I love that you talk about the history of Hyrule but actually talk about the multiple theories with speculation rather than doing the history with one collection of selected theories to roll with like "this could have happened but this could have happened as well" rather than the straightforward "this is how it happened in our interpretation of the timeline"
first gg on 30k, You better hit 100k soon,
Secondly god i missed these videos, haven't watched a ton of yours since i've haven't had time to watch em, keep up the good worl
I absolutely adore this content as I have also found myself puzzling over how Hyrule's land could change over time. Admittedly, I just accepted nebulous reasons, so it's really awesome to see some good theories laid out in tip top video format^^
Keep in mind that plate tectonics are a theory and not proven facts. Most of the postulates used to build theores about how the world once being a super continent are based upon fossils of similar species being on different land masses. But this overlooks other evidence that shows the world's sea levels are much higher today than even 4000 years meaning there could easily be ways for animals to migrate across areas that are now oceans. No doubt there are large areas of land that are pushed around by subsurface activity but to say the surface of the world reshapes so dramatically is far fetched given other factors like erosion.
Lovin it man. Great content as always. Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas ^^
Man, this is an awesome work! Congratulations!
thanks Jon this is an awesome gift that everyone can enjoy
It's nice to stumble upon a theory that looks at the change in Geography of Hyrule over time and possibly string together all Hyrules in one. Analyzing videogames similar to real science, especially by long lasting series can be so much fun.
I honestly can't WAIT for more!
Amazing video as always. You're my favorite Zeldatuber
Zelda theorists would really benefit from some Ockham razor reasoning,why attribute the change in geography to highly unlikely tectonic plate movements when we can just assume maps just got better at depicting the landscape overtime.
I don't know if its because my first and favorite game is OoT but the goddess story theme and title theme always hit me deep. Hope you had a Merry Christmas.
The final boss should be cucco instead of ganon
Now that would be terrifying.
Amazing! Cannot wait for the next.
Sweet. Looking forward to this series!