True as an adult I've been holding myself accountable, But I've realized how horrible I used to be in my teens and childhood. Cheating, stealing, ungratefulness, judgmental, drunkeness, etc. Christianity made me realize that I don't know anything compared to God. Inheriting good and evil. Now I am being tested on the ideas I hold.
"if people do evil if ordered to do so, they lack morality" It's worse than that. Soldiers rape, torture, and mutilate bodies. They were not ordered to do that. The moment you remove humans from a civilized setting, many revert to base animals, the rest remain domesticated, just like good little doggies. In nature, apes will rape and kill when it suits them. Lacking all moral training, men will rape and kill as easily as any other ape.
good and bad is a concept, moral compass is a concept, such concept does not exist in the natural world outside of humanity, as such, it is made up. true?
I'm wondering if perhaps it could also have something to do with alleviating the sense of guilt. If the authority figure told me to do it, then they take responsibility for the action. Therefore, said action is no longer mine but theirs.
There is a great lecture on TH-cam by a professor named Michael Sandel from Harvard that covers morality. Long story short, he explains that morality is not a rigid thing that is rooted in each of us by nature, but rather a fluid thing that changes along with specific circumstances. I found it pretty interesting and I think more people should see it if they have the time.
Studies and tests have shown that people who are born with psychopathy have different wiring in their brain. They either lack certain connections or their connections are messed up and out of order. Making it impossible for them to actually feel emotion. I don't necessarily think that people are born good or bad however I do believe that people are born with either the ability to feel and experience those feelings or they are not.
Well stated!!! Exactly why psych classes were my favorites in University. Humans are so complex and fascinating. If we take a step back to consider things like this objectively instead of being quick to pass judgment....society would be a lot better off.
@@NurseSnow2U thank you. And I too am fascinated by human behavior and the brain. I majored in Psychology and then did my own extra studies apart from my schooling and my own research and everything that I have learned I try and tell as many people as I can, my kids included. You are right if people had a better understanding of human behavior and the why's and how's and what ifs etc then a lot less judgment would be passed and a lot more understanding would be given... Could you imagine the world we would be living in? 💜
Notice how in superhero stories, the villain is always somebody who is unhappy with society and wants to make a change, and the superhero is somebody who only wants the status quo to remain the same. This makes sense, as it reflects the general conservative mindset of American culture. As well, in the USA superheroes are often created by radiation, while in Japan radiation creates monsters. Characters like Captain America are basically ideological tools for the Cold War. Narrations and stories always reflect the values and beliefs of the culture that created them.
@@thesharkormoriantm274 I'm not familiar much with American Culture as you do. So can you explain how American culture is conservative and how radiation is used as a metaphor
I hate Jurassic quotes because they're not realistic at all. I feel like whoever uses their quotes are just in denial about how intentionally horrible our species is and is turning a blind eye to it.
Even if we have what human know as 'conscience', we can't forget that everyone has their own egotistical desires too. As a wise man once said: 'I want mommy, I want milk, I want to be held, I want to be comforted, and if I don't get these things immediately, I will ruin your life'
I like to think we're inherently good...and then some 40-50 year old cuts me off and flips me off...and I realize the only thing holding society from the brink of murderous rampage are laws none of us have ever read. We're not inherently "evil", because that word is made up. But we are inherently violent and self preserving. If there were no laws, we'd all be more quick to violence to protect ourselves.
10:25 Fritz Haber as I was told in an undergraduate class made the gasses (or original thing) to help Germany from starving due to lack of food which he massively succeeded in. He also ended up either helping or being compliant in creating the gases used during the war and he did have a more gruesome life towards the end of his life where I believe either he or his wife shot themselves. So he most likely started out "good" but fell into bad deeds that he might have thought were good intentions.
I believe in a weird kind of way that we as men need to be constantly stimulated with adventure or extraordinary work situations to keep us busy. Idle mind, idle hands. I’m 16 months away from turning 50 years old and only now am I calming down and enjoying living and not constantly trying to keep occupied, but I’m not a good example I guess by being blessed with autism. But I have witnessed what downtime does to a young man’s mind. It’s never a good outcome.
@@priapulida interesting take, despite my education I'd never considered it that way. Personally it's why I believe psych and basic human anatomy/physiology should be a part of our children's curriculum FAR before college where it's optional. It would help us understand ourselves and EACHOTHER greatly. This is why I love TH-cam, appreciate the quality of the discourse here more than j could ever express!!! ✨
@@priapulida I’ll politely disagree with some of what you wrote. In my case it’s definitely wisdom. I was aided by simple parents but I was born with a non simple brain. What I was taught growing up was usually not correct information. I traveled the country and the world for 27 years to seek out what is real and what is hyperbole. Real not truth. Truth comes in many different ways to many different people worldwide. But you did make some good points for the rest of them for sure. lol. Cheers.
What unnerved me most about the Milgram studies is that the “authority” in the room was simply an academic scientist. Forget obeying the state, we stifle our compassion in the presence of a lab coat that will pay us $4 an hour.
I was born with a fraternal twin brother. We look completely different and have totally different personalities. We were raised in the same household. I am good, and he is, pretty much, evil. The only reason he is not TOTAL evil is because of my influence on him.
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I think Thucydides was right. If things are going alright or are constrained by others, most people do not commit evil. But when shit starts to hit the fan or when you completely overpower someone else, most people reveal their potential of violence and evil.
Humans are neutral and good and evil both depends on each persons perspective. If a whole island of cannibals says eating humans is good, then that's how it is. But if the world says murder is wrong, then it's the cannibals who are wrong but not to the cannibals.
Reminds me of Korean ferry disaster of 2014 Students followed the orders and stayed where they were even when they were drowing due to which they sadly paid ultimate price. How much we can trust in authority with our lives that we supress all underlying feeling and impulses which is another double edged sword. Maybe we are just followers after all with herd mentality
even animals have a sense of wanting to help out others in need, if the circumstances allow for it that is like with a brown bear saving a crow from drowing or a lion fighting off another lion to prevent a wildebeast from being eaten
@Prateek DG they indeed do not have any moral standards written in stone but i do have to say that most animals do have an ingrained sense of morality for the sake of survival
@@anjou6497 there is indeed a good chance that the lion indeed did it to keep his lunch from being taken away for a later moment, in some cases, like the one i'm referring to, the lion went about it like it was her cub
As competitive as society is under the surface which always shows above, this is truly an interesting discussion. Holistically I believe we’re all here not to kill each other, but to serve each other. The gift and the curse of free will.
Yeah that would be a better alternative but unfortunately that’s not what we are. We are a destructive species. That’s very clear. Humans are the seven sins. Nothing can change or will. Thousands of years have past and nothing has changed what we do to each other. And now we are entering the A.I era. It’s all down hill from here. ✌️
Crazy thing is that our supposed "free will" and our moral compass should be a shield to every questionable order or demand. However, due to human nature regardless of external circumstances we still wanna kill, steal, lie and destroy ... We could say it's probably because the person was conditioned to think that way, but if we have free will and a moral compass we'll often go into a contradiction of sorts, you can have the free will to do whatever you want, even not to comply with questionable demands. To me yes humans are naturally evil in nature even the most Saint person ever. As humans we choose the easiest path so It's easy to do the evil doing than the right thing, since in doing the evil actions it will deplete our moral sense and sensibility to humanity. It's easier to lie to a person than telling them the truth It's easier to destroy a family house than building for one It's easy to take someone's life than helping them It's easy to steal than to work hard So yeah .... whatever you do you....
What I want is for humans to not be that because they are stupid and dumb, I don't give a fvck if you want to be evil I want them to be good whether they like it or not because being evil is evil, and if I get punished doing the right thing I will be glad for it Xd, atleast now I know they are wiser
I think what we all as humanity collectively have to start doing is taking responsibility and accountability for our actions. If we could just do that I think we’d do a lot better as people
There’s a film by the name of “We Need To Talk About Kevin” (actually free to watch on here as well btw) that really dives into the whole world of evil and whatnot.
Maybe it's because being evil is generally easier than being good. We humans tend to take an easier route if available. Our brain is hardwired that way
Hey Mike, I hope you're taking suggestions for topics for your videos. I have some cool ideas. I want to learn them from your Videography. 1. CLONING: Human Cloning, it's applications, it's dangers, it's misusage, Political interests, National security and so on. 2.Any concepts of PSEUDOSCIENCE. I hope you'd consider it. Do take the philosophical approach, but also more scientific approach. It would really help with my research. Need a comprehensive view on the topics.
@@norma8686 I'm already doing it. I'm just interested in his Videography. Also what's so wrong in asking. It's a part of my research. He's like a giru to me. You can only be so keen to learn from your guru, drink in his knowledge. I see nothing wrong in it. Think before you try to judge someone. PUNK
@@Chlef I'm already doing it. I'm just interested in his Videography. Also what's so wrong in asking. It's a part of my research. He's like a giru to me. You can only be so keen to learn from your guru, drink in his knowledge. I see nothing wrong in it. Think before you try to judge someone. PUNK
to expand further, i don't think the actual question is 'are we inherently good or evil?' i think the question really is 'how different are we really from other animal species in terms of behavior?'
if you ask me, all people are btoh good and evil at the same time, which side becomes the internal hegemon depends on the circumstances in which one finds him/herself and the character of the individual
No one human can define whats normal or not because we are just here we didn’t make the rules we just think we did. So what u day is normal is irreverent to someone else’s normal
Evil spelled backwards is live. So if you believe living is evil or selfish than we might be inherently evil. But that has a lot to do with your belief systems and possibly your religion.
Anyone who has had to take care of little kids is aware that children are fully capable of being incredibly cruel and need to be taught good behavior through discipline in order to rear them into respectable adults. We're predisposed to help people we think of as "our tribe/community " such as friends,family,religious group, ethnic group,etc as it ensures safety in numbers and establishes an expectation of reciprocal aid in our own time of need.
This reminds me. If u can try reading the Lord of the Flies. The author, William Golding, writes a story about these schoolboys stranded on an uncharted island and how they have to survive. It illustrates how humans are inherently evil, since I think Golding fought in a war
I read a book titled 'most people are good' which covered that story. William claimed that humans are evil because he suffered from chronic depression and was a huge pessimist.
Goodness is an outward circle. How far that circle goes depends the experiences of the person and the wealth and convictions of their group/society. And, it's dynamic.
I generally agree, although wealth is subjective; hence, a person who _feels_ poorer will remain in a greater state of self-preservation, hence being more defensive. The more one can stop the comparisons and become one, the more one can abandon unnecessary acts of preservation. In modern times, the main thing being preserved is the ego.
Survival of the fittest in your tribe is evil. This is why capitalism is evil. Because it push people of the same tribe into fighting each others instead of helping.
Why dosen't Superman save everyone: This is a simple and yet extremely complex question, and it gets to the heart of who Superman is and his choice to be Superman instead of God or a dictator etc. The important theme to state up front is that Superman must accept that his endless powers are limited by the endless suffering of our world. And that limitation is placed upon him by his compassion, and his dedication to what is ultimately best for humanity. Technically, Superman actually probably CAN save everyone, or almost everyone. He could solve famine, solve war, solve most accidents, stop most crime. All he has to do is expose himself to human suffering every half-second of every minute of every hour of every day, for the rest of time. All he has to do is be a benevolent dictator, removing all weapons and monitoring everything we say and do, running society like cogs in a machine, removing human decisions from any situation that remotely matters. The truth is that some people's free will causes other people to suffer. When we have it in our power to stop injustice and suffering, do we have an obligation to act, even if it means we must deny free will? We could send our armies around the world everywhere, to overthrow governments and to force social compliance with standards that apportion food and shelter equally and to make sure nobody goes without, and that everyone eats healthily. Hypothetically, we could do that because we have the sheer force of power, of strength and might and advantage. Should we do so, if we can ease suffering by enforcing our own will even when it defies and removes the will of others, including those who suffer? The cause of justice is never served by stripping society of free will. It will only cause more suffering in the end. Our attempts to use our mighty strength and powers to do our perceived duty by acting to end suffering, even if it means forcing the world to comply with our own will, would only lead to more suffering. To put it into a spiritual perspective, God could force the world to be perfect, but He leaves it in the hands of imperfect beings for a reason. Because free will matters, and no situation of forced perfection is truly perfect because it would lack free will. Lead by example, not by force of might. Bullies are the ones who impose their own will at the expense of others. These are lessons Superman came to understand, because in order to save everyone he would have to use all of his powers all of the time to reorder the world in a way that lets him best protect and defend us from any harm. The true limitations are not in his own powers, but in our societies, really, and in the fact humanity is still learning to advance our moral and intellectual development to keep up with our technological ability to destroy one another. If Superman gave in to this fundamental truth, accepting that his powers are not the problem, but rather society is the problem, and he decided to become our dictator, that is the only way he could truly save everyone. And it would be a nightmare, it would destroy the human spirit and he would have to become everything he fights against. That is not the man he is in his heart, not the man he was raised to be. Superman came to understand that humanity is not defined by the problems in our world -- those worst examples aren't "human nature," and he's seen true human nature up-close. People working side-by-side in impoverished nations to rebuild homes and harvest crops, people just trying to live their lives and raise their children and have a life with simple pleasures and without harming other people. He knows the world is full of good people. Humanity doesn't need a ruler, it needs a champion, someone to stand up for what's right, to fight for us and help set an example. Someone who will unselfishly champion us without demanding control and dominion over us. And that is what Superman chooses to be. Paul Dini's excellent Superman: Peace on Earth ( dccomics.com/dcu/graphic_novels/?gn=1564 ) touches heavily on this topic, in a story in which Superman decides to try and rid the world of hunger. It's beautifully painted by Alex Ross, and is a very moving tale. In the end, Superman concludes that to solve this and other problems, humanity must learn to work together and share with one another.
I think Aperture should do a video that is super interesting, covering all the facts and at least an hour long. It would be the best... THE BEST I Say.....
We're inherently Morbidly curious. And that's okay. It can teach us the fragility of our own life, of others life's. It can teach us empathy, compassion, patience. I have found that I respect those who have experienced traumatic situations yet they treat others with kindness and understanding. Rather than propagating this "if I was hurt then I will hurt others NONSENSE" yes broken people do that and it's not okay! I respect people who have been hurt, experienced pain suffering and they don't want to ever do that to others because they understand how terrible it is.. we still have so much to learn about the layers of the human mind and urges. I always feel it's fine, and uncontrollable if a random morbid thought pops into your head, it's a part of our human nature, but it's up to Us to decide if we act upon that random thought. We should be comfortable with our abstract internal mental voice that it doesn't always make sense or need to be listened to, we are allowed to have abstract thoughts and thought experiments. It doesn't make us a bad person. If we act out and hurt another person tho, that's bad. It's easy to understand and for some reason we muddy up the line of separation of good and bad person... Just don't hurt others.
Good and evil are human concepts. They are value judgements regarding things that we perceive to be of benefit or detriment to our interests. In nature good and evil do not exist. All actions and events in the natural world follow the laws of nature and the competition to survive the chaos, nothing more.
honestly people separate us from animals too much. we are natural creatures and came about the same as every other animal did no matter how different we are from them. humans like every other animal want to survive and reproduce, witch is the cause for every emotion and function we have. humans less like every other animal are very good at adapting and adapt to their environment, witch is why upbringing is so impactful to our person later in life.
It is true that authority does allow us to act in a certain manner which we otherwise wouldn't be able to because of societal moral standards. Whether it be following a leader for military coup or misusing power on locals, we do hide behind the authority of law and somehow find ways to please ourselves.
I do not believe people are evil. I do however know that people can easily do very evil things while thinking they are either doing something good or something for the greater good.
I think people are evil. I noticed that kids will attack and bully anyone who look different from them. I'm also speaking as an Asian man who used to live in the Bronx going to school with black and Latinos kids. Black and Latino were the majority of the school, so I guess you know who got bullied
Just answering to the title, human aren't born good or evil, like animals, some of us are cruel, but because of our intelligence, we created a set of rules and culture to make ourselves "good" in the benefit of all mankind
I'm not a good person, I just have goodness in me. I can be generous, caring, comforting but i'm also vengeful, spiteful, ignorant, stubborn and selfish 🤷♂
I wouldn't say that humans are evil by nature but instinctively we are violent throughout human history we have done horrible disgusting things due to greed for money selfishness or individual ideology
Supposing you hear a cry for help from a man in danger. You will probably feel two desires - one a desire to give help (due to your herd instinct), the other a desire to keep out of danger (due to the instinct for self-preservation). But you will find inside you, in addition to these two impulses, a third thing which tells you that you ought to follow the impulse to help, and suppress the impulse to run away. Now this thing that judges between two instincts, that decides which should be encouraged, cannot itself be either of them. You might as well say that the sheet of music which tells you, at a given moment, to play one note on the piano and not another, is itself one of the notes on the keyboard. The Moral Law tells us the tune we have to play: our instincts are merely the keys. C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity
Neither it's all gray what we decide is good or evil is based purely on our own experiences, culture, and the physical material consequences of our actions. An objective good and evil don't exist because they're murly social constructs created by humans that's the reason our ideas of morality and the laws based around them change and evolve over time.
I think humans are born inherently selfish. If we can serve ourselves in a way that benefits others too, then we'll feel good about it. If not, we may feel guilty, but ultimately prioritize ourselves. Empathy is learned, and the only pain and fear we can actually feel is our own.
Or humans are inherently selfish and they will do whatever they think will benefit them. The child would rather have the nice bear because the baby thinks the bear will be nice to the baby. People obey orders because its in their best interest to listen then to go against order as their could be punishment or confrontation. Most people try to avoid confrontation.
“Good is not a thing you are. It's a thing you do.”
― G. Willow Wilson
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@@ZimaCyberia “to pee, or not to pee” William Shakespeare
Agreed
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"We all think of ourselves as heroes in our own stories and make up excuses when we're clearly not"
Basically every rightwing authoritarian facist reactionary ever.
True as an adult I've been holding myself accountable, But I've realized how horrible I used to be in my teens and childhood. Cheating, stealing, ungratefulness, judgmental, drunkeness, etc. Christianity made me realize that I don't know anything compared to God. Inheriting good and evil. Now I am being tested on the ideas I hold.
@@kingbambam bruh stop with your dumb religious takes
Why am I the opposite of that?
So basically, we’re not the main characters
If one's moral compass becomes irrelevant when there's some kind of authority involved then it's pretty much non existent.
"if people do evil if ordered to do so, they lack morality"
It's worse than that. Soldiers rape, torture, and mutilate bodies. They were not ordered to do that. The moment you remove humans from a civilized setting, many revert to base animals, the rest remain domesticated, just like good little doggies.
In nature, apes will rape and kill when it suits them. Lacking all moral training, men will rape and kill as easily as any other ape.
good and bad is a concept, moral compass is a concept, such concept does not exist in the natural world outside of humanity, as such, it is made up. true?
I'm wondering if perhaps it could also have something to do with alleviating the sense of guilt. If the authority figure told me to do it, then they take responsibility for the action. Therefore, said action is no longer mine but theirs.
If that authority is the law that protects each person under it by protecting their basic human rights, which we all share, then that is a good thing
@@priapulida Trust in authority is bowing to tyranny.
There is a great lecture on TH-cam by a professor named Michael Sandel from Harvard that covers morality. Long story short, he explains that morality is not a rigid thing that is rooted in each of us by nature, but rather a fluid thing that changes along with specific circumstances. I found it pretty interesting and I think more people should see it if they have the time.
Thanks for the recommendation.
Cool will watch it. Thanks for the recommendation
Makes sense, but humans are evil regardless.
So many of these old studies would never pass an ethics board today but they are still so interesting.
Studies and tests have shown that people who are born with psychopathy have different wiring in their brain. They either lack certain connections or their connections are messed up and out of order. Making it impossible for them to actually feel emotion.
I don't necessarily think that people are born good or bad however I do believe that people are born with either the ability to feel and experience those feelings or they are not.
Well stated!!! Exactly why psych classes were my favorites in University. Humans are so complex and fascinating.
If we take a step back to consider things like this objectively instead of being quick to pass judgment....society would be a lot better off.
@@NurseSnow2U thank you. And I too am fascinated by human behavior and the brain. I majored in Psychology and then did my own extra studies apart from my schooling and my own research and everything that I have learned I try and tell as many people as I can, my kids included. You are right if people had a better understanding of human behavior and the why's and how's and what ifs etc then a lot less judgment would be passed and a lot more understanding would be given... Could you imagine the world we would be living in? 💜
Nonsense. What exactly does a newborn psychopath's brain look like? Neuroplasticity is a thing, you know.
How do you possibly put out this much quality content so consistently. That is insane my brother. You're goated
He TRULY is. Phenomenal. One of the highest quality content creators on the platform.
I literally had a discussion about this in my english class today and this feels like perfect timing
Good luck on your class
no need to say literally.
@@kissthesky40 is there a reason not to?
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@@choicethetaurus tbh I usually hate self-promoted songs but this is actually pretty good
The line diving Good and Evil cuts through the hearts of all of us.
Hey Mike, can you make a video on superheroes, why we love them, the science, mythology and philosophy behind them.
Notice how in superhero stories, the villain is always somebody who is unhappy with society and wants to make a change, and the superhero is somebody who only wants the status quo to remain the same.
This makes sense, as it reflects the general conservative mindset of American culture.
As well, in the USA superheroes are often created by radiation, while in Japan radiation creates monsters. Characters like Captain America are basically ideological tools for the Cold War.
Narrations and stories always reflect the values and beliefs of the culture that created them.
@@thesharkormoriantm274 that’s a really interesting insight, thank you!
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@@thesharkormoriantm274 I'm not familiar much with American Culture as you do. So can you explain how American culture is conservative and how radiation is used as a metaphor
Why do you know his name
“Create enough hunger and everyone becomes a criminal.” -Ra’s Al Ghul.
“Some of the most terrible things in history have been done with “The best intention’s”.” -Dr. Alan Grant (Jurassic Park 3).
I hate Jurassic quotes because they're not realistic at all. I feel like whoever uses their quotes are just in denial about how intentionally horrible our species is and is turning a blind eye to it.
Even if we have what human know as 'conscience', we can't forget that everyone has their own egotistical desires too. As a wise man once said:
'I want mommy, I want milk, I want to be held, I want to be comforted, and if I don't get these things immediately, I will ruin your life'
Probably the one time that I agree with Dennis Prager
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So it starts from day 1 on Earth huh??
I like to think we're inherently good...and then some 40-50 year old cuts me off and flips me off...and I realize the only thing holding society from the brink of murderous rampage are laws none of us have ever read.
We're not inherently "evil", because that word is made up. But we are inherently violent and self preserving. If there were no laws, we'd all be more quick to violence to protect ourselves.
Evil. It’s live backwards. Lol. Doesn’t mean anything but I had to put my 2 cents in.
@@sparkles7445 It does... It means dead are evil
@@agentsmith_ that certainly makes sense to. I really don’t know what the heck is going on anymore.
@@sparkles7445 "in english language"
So they are evil, you just don't want to use the word
“I like being bad…it makes me happy.” -Venom (Eddie Brock) “Spider-Man 3”.
10:25 Fritz Haber as I was told in an undergraduate class made the gasses (or original thing) to help Germany from starving due to lack of food which he massively succeeded in. He also ended up either helping or being compliant in creating the gases used during the war and he did have a more gruesome life towards the end of his life where I believe either he or his wife shot themselves. So he most likely started out "good" but fell into bad deeds that he might have thought were good intentions.
Haber was a chemist, and chemistry doesn't care about your morality.
I believe in a weird kind of way that we as men need to be constantly stimulated with adventure or extraordinary work situations to keep us busy. Idle mind, idle hands.
I’m 16 months away from turning 50 years old and only now am I calming down and enjoying living and not constantly trying to keep occupied, but I’m not a good example I guess by being blessed with autism. But I have witnessed what downtime does to a young man’s mind. It’s never a good outcome.
@@priapulida interesting take, despite my education I'd never considered it that way. Personally it's why I believe psych and basic human anatomy/physiology should be a part of our children's curriculum FAR before college where it's optional. It would help us understand ourselves and EACHOTHER greatly.
This is why I love TH-cam, appreciate the quality of the discourse here more than j could ever express!!! ✨
@@priapulida I’ll politely disagree with some of what you wrote. In my case it’s definitely wisdom. I was aided by simple parents but I was born with a non simple brain. What I was taught growing up was usually not correct information. I traveled the country and the world for 27 years to seek out what is real and what is hyperbole. Real not truth. Truth comes in many different ways to many different people worldwide. But you did make some good points for the rest of them for sure. lol. Cheers.
p.s please tell me where I could lower my testosterone levels. Haha. Nothing has changed down there. Yet. 😂😁
What unnerved me most about the Milgram studies is that the “authority” in the room was simply an academic scientist. Forget obeying the state, we stifle our compassion in the presence of a lab coat that will pay us $4 an hour.
@@priapulida You lost me there.
I was born with a fraternal twin brother. We look completely different and have totally different personalities. We were raised in the same household. I am good, and he is, pretty much, evil. The only reason he is not TOTAL evil is because of my influence on him.
The Purge is such a great film franchise, on that note.🎥
You don’t have to be crazy, nor that intelligent to understand just how fucked everything really is.
Yep, most of the time we hate reality, and continuously try to fix/ change what we’re seeing and feeling.
@@freespirit-111 Damn that’s one of the deepest comments I have ever seen. Sad but true.
@@sbeautiful6133 I like the fun parts about being human, but the not- so fun parts I can do without…🤣🤣
You've been pumping out a lot of videos recently. I'm loving it I hope you can keep going without getting burnt out!
“Everyone is just awful these day’s.” -The Joker.
You are absolutely correct. They're so awful these *_days_* that they don't know the difference between "day's" and "days"
🤡HAHAHA HAHA HA
How about try outs?
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's indicates possession.
Plural only requires that you add an s. Examples:
'The home's shutters are black.'
'There are many homes on the street.'
@@ziziroberts8041 greengrocer's apo'strophe
“Good” and “Evil” are just concept’s, just like everything else in life.
I think they're absolute, and that's why I'd still be your only friend if everyone else left.
I think Thucydides was right. If things are going alright or are constrained by others, most people do not commit evil.
But when shit starts to hit the fan or when you completely overpower someone else, most people reveal their potential of violence and evil.
Humans are neutral and good and evil both depends on each persons perspective. If a whole island of cannibals says eating humans is good, then that's how it is. But if the world says murder is wrong, then it's the cannibals who are wrong but not to the cannibals.
Reminds me of Korean ferry disaster of 2014
Students followed the orders and stayed where they were even when they were drowing due to which they sadly paid ultimate price. How much we can trust in authority with our lives that we supress all underlying feeling and impulses which is another double edged sword. Maybe we are just followers after all with herd mentality
It's crazy that we ourselves don't even know what we are
We are a blank canvas, but our actions speak for us
Hey Mike, a mere suggestion - can you put the names of the soundtracks you use in your videos in the description ?
even animals have a sense of wanting to help out others in need, if the circumstances allow for it that is
like with a brown bear saving a crow from drowing or a lion fighting off another lion to prevent a wildebeast from being eaten
@Prateek DG they indeed do not have any moral standards written in stone but i do have to say that most animals do have an ingrained sense of morality for the sake of survival
@@anjou6497 there is indeed a good chance that the lion indeed did it to keep his lunch from being taken away for a later moment, in some cases, like the one i'm referring to, the lion went about it like it was her cub
Are you high that shit almost never happens in nature
And sometime is the opposite...
As competitive as society is under the surface which always shows above, this is truly an interesting discussion.
Holistically I believe we’re all here not to kill each other, but to serve each other.
The gift and the curse of free will.
Yeah that would be a better alternative but unfortunately that’s not what we are. We are a destructive species. That’s very clear. Humans are the seven sins. Nothing can change or will. Thousands of years have past and nothing has changed what we do to each other. And now we are entering the A.I era. It’s all down hill from here. ✌️
Crazy thing is that our supposed "free will" and our moral compass should be a shield to every questionable order or demand.
However, due to human nature regardless of external circumstances we still wanna kill, steal, lie and destroy ... We could say it's probably because the person was conditioned to think that way, but if we have free will and a moral compass we'll often go into a contradiction of sorts, you can have the free will to do whatever you want, even not to comply with questionable demands.
To me yes humans are naturally evil in nature even the most Saint person ever. As humans we choose the easiest path so It's easy to do the evil doing than the right thing, since in doing the evil actions it will deplete our moral sense and sensibility to humanity.
It's easier to lie to a person than telling them the truth
It's easier to destroy a family house than building for one
It's easy to take someone's life than helping them
It's easy to steal than to work hard
So yeah .... whatever you do you....
What I want is for humans to not be that because they are stupid and dumb, I don't give a fvck if you want to be evil I want them to be good whether they like it or not because being evil is evil, and if I get punished doing the right thing I will be glad for it Xd, atleast now I know they are wiser
““Care”? What the Hell does that mean? “Care”?” -Charles Manson.
This deserves the attention of the whole world.
Nice work Aperture, I recommend also checking out the stages in Kohlberg's theory of moral development and the "HEINZ DILEMMA "
Thanks for the suggestion.
Another aperture banger. I was hoping you would do a vid on this topic, glad its finally here.
One of the most underrated videos of all time.
I think what we all as humanity collectively have to start doing is taking responsibility and accountability for our actions. If we could just do that I think we’d do a lot better as people
There’s a film by the name of “We Need To Talk About Kevin” (actually free to watch on here as well btw) that really dives into the whole world of evil and whatnot.
Maybe it's because being evil is generally easier than being good. We humans tend to take an easier route if available. Our brain is hardwired that way
What if I don't want to be evil?
One of the most important topic’s of all time.
Hey Mike, I hope you're taking suggestions for topics for your videos. I have some cool ideas. I want to learn them from your Videography.
1. CLONING: Human Cloning, it's applications, it's dangers, it's misusage, Political interests, National security and so on.
2.Any concepts of PSEUDOSCIENCE.
I hope you'd consider it.
Do take the philosophical approach, but also more scientific approach. It would really help with my research. Need a comprehensive view on the topics.
So you're just looking for someone else to do your research for you?
your just asking him to do research for you lmao. if you want to learn that stuff, research it yourself.
@@norma8686 I'm already doing it. I'm just interested in his Videography. Also what's so wrong in asking. It's a part of my research. He's like a giru to me. You can only be so keen to learn from your guru, drink in his knowledge. I see nothing wrong in it. Think before you try to judge someone. PUNK
@@Chlef I'm already doing it. I'm just interested in his Videography. Also what's so wrong in asking. It's a part of my research. He's like a giru to me. You can only be so keen to learn from your guru, drink in his knowledge. I see nothing wrong in it. Think before you try to judge someone. PUNK
@@shanmukh747 Wow, we're going for insults now, okay. Very mature.
to expand further, i don't think the actual question is 'are we inherently good or evil?'
i think the question really is 'how different are we really from other animal species in terms of behavior?'
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"
And what the fuck do we do about it?!?!?!?!?!?
@@lochermaleficent5062 Turn to Jesus for the renewing of your mind
@@Mob78 Here we go again with the children fairy tales... 🤡
@@Damesanglante Give Jesus a chance. What hurt could it could it do?
if you ask me, all people are btoh good and evil at the same time, which side becomes the internal hegemon depends on the circumstances in which one finds him/herself and the character of the individual
My son was a bad kid from 1yrs old. He’s a good adult now. But boy was he a wild teen. But never evil.
He's evil, you just don't know.
@@User_92020 😂
@@User_92020 if that’s your outlook at life. Gotta suck to see the world from your point of view.
He must've been evil if you had the urge to randomly think of him when watching a clip about morals😂
*“Kids are cruel, Jack!”*
It's true, if a human were not too be educated they would (probably) not realise that stuff such as stealing, killing and abuse are NOT 'norma'!
Yeah they would just be ignorant not evil they would just thing it would be fine to do
No one human can define whats normal or not because we are just here we didn’t make the rules we just think we did. So what u day is normal is irreverent to someone else’s normal
we become who we are base on what experiences being taught to us were neither good or bad it is our choices that makes us one be it good or bad
Evil spelled backwards is live. So if you believe living is evil or selfish than we might be inherently evil. But that has a lot to do with your belief systems and possibly your religion.
What’s “Mental Illness”? besides being well-informed on important thing’s.
“It is absurd to divide people into “Good” or “Evil”. They are either charming or tedious.” -Oscar Wilde.
as a wise man says 'it depends on the context'
Anyone who has had to take care of little kids is aware that children are fully capable of being incredibly cruel and need to be taught good behavior through discipline in order to rear them into respectable adults. We're predisposed to help people we think of as "our tribe/community " such as friends,family,religious group, ethnic group,etc as it ensures safety in numbers and establishes an expectation of reciprocal aid in our own time of need.
We all need nothing in life except, food water and oxigen, we just animal with clothes who survived till now
“When we’re kid’s we praise the hero, adulthood is realizing the villain makes more sense.”
Ok kiddo
Edgy much?
Yeah man Osama really made sense didn't he?
Yh. Jeff was really on to something.
Says the kid
Everyone’s a socio-psychopath in some way shape or another.
This reminds me. If u can try reading the Lord of the Flies. The author, William Golding, writes a story about these schoolboys stranded on an uncharted island and how they have to survive. It illustrates how humans are inherently evil, since I think Golding fought in a war
I read a book titled 'most people are good' which covered that story. William claimed that humans are evil because he suffered from chronic depression and was a huge pessimist.
I don’t think that was the message of the story, moreso we become animals without a society
@@jasmine1stan857 that too yeah
Great post my friend. A lot of food for thought.
Spawn killing in video games explains all of it
Peace is a illusion.
Evil like the universe. Take to gain is law.
Goodness is an outward circle. How far that circle goes depends the experiences of the person and the wealth and convictions of their group/society. And, it's dynamic.
I generally agree, although wealth is subjective; hence, a person who _feels_ poorer will remain in a greater state of self-preservation, hence being more defensive. The more one can stop the comparisons and become one, the more one can abandon unnecessary acts of preservation. In modern times, the main thing being preserved is the ego.
What others call “Evil”, I call “Survival Of The Fittest”.
Survival of the fittest in your tribe is evil.
This is why capitalism is evil. Because it push people of the same tribe into fighting each others instead of helping.
Goods a human concept and one that varies from place to place and even person to person, it needs to be learned, Evil's the same, both exist.
Morality is just a tool we come up to differentiate a behavior that is useful and not so that we can implement order into chaos.
The worst kind of evil is when they don't know they are evil
Why dosen't Superman save everyone:
This is a simple and yet extremely complex question, and it gets to the heart of who Superman is and his choice to be Superman instead of God or a dictator etc.
The important theme to state up front is that Superman must accept that his endless powers are limited by the endless suffering of our world. And that limitation is placed upon him by his compassion, and his dedication to what is ultimately best for humanity.
Technically, Superman actually probably CAN save everyone, or almost everyone. He could solve famine, solve war, solve most accidents, stop most crime. All he has to do is expose himself to human suffering every half-second of every minute of every hour of every day, for the rest of time. All he has to do is be a benevolent dictator, removing all weapons and monitoring everything we say and do, running society like cogs in a machine, removing human decisions from any situation that remotely matters.
The truth is that some people's free will causes other people to suffer. When we have it in our power to stop injustice and suffering, do we have an obligation to act, even if it means we must deny free will? We could send our armies around the world everywhere, to overthrow governments and to force social compliance with standards that apportion food and shelter equally and to make sure nobody goes without, and that everyone eats healthily. Hypothetically, we could do that because we have the sheer force of power, of strength and might and advantage. Should we do so, if we can ease suffering by enforcing our own will even when it defies and removes the will of others, including those who suffer?
The cause of justice is never served by stripping society of free will. It will only cause more suffering in the end. Our attempts to use our mighty strength and powers to do our perceived duty by acting to end suffering, even if it means forcing the world to comply with our own will, would only lead to more suffering.
To put it into a spiritual perspective, God could force the world to be perfect, but He leaves it in the hands of imperfect beings for a reason. Because free will matters, and no situation of forced perfection is truly perfect because it would lack free will.
Lead by example, not by force of might. Bullies are the ones who impose their own will at the expense of others.
These are lessons Superman came to understand, because in order to save everyone he would have to use all of his powers all of the time to reorder the world in a way that lets him best protect and defend us from any harm. The true limitations are not in his own powers, but in our societies, really, and in the fact humanity is still learning to advance our moral and intellectual development to keep up with our technological ability to destroy one another. If Superman gave in to this fundamental truth, accepting that his powers are not the problem, but rather society is the problem, and he decided to become our dictator, that is the only way he could truly save everyone.
And it would be a nightmare, it would destroy the human spirit and he would have to become everything he fights against. That is not the man he is in his heart, not the man he was raised to be. Superman came to understand that humanity is not defined by the problems in our world -- those worst examples aren't "human nature," and he's seen true human nature up-close. People working side-by-side in impoverished nations to rebuild homes and harvest crops, people just trying to live their lives and raise their children and have a life with simple pleasures and without harming other people.
He knows the world is full of good people. Humanity doesn't need a ruler, it needs a champion, someone to stand up for what's right, to fight for us and help set an example. Someone who will unselfishly champion us without demanding control and dominion over us. And that is what Superman chooses to be.
Paul Dini's excellent Superman: Peace on Earth ( dccomics.com/dcu/graphic_novels/?gn=1564 ) touches heavily on this topic, in a story in which Superman decides to try and rid the world of hunger. It's beautifully painted by Alex Ross, and is a very moving tale. In the end, Superman concludes that to solve this and other problems, humanity must learn to work together and share with one another.
I think Aperture should do a video that is super interesting, covering all the facts and at least an hour long. It would be the best... THE BEST I Say.....
Look at our society. You're kidding yourself if you think we aren't evil
You have to do whatever you gotta do to survive.
We're inherently Morbidly curious. And that's okay. It can teach us the fragility of our own life, of others life's. It can teach us empathy, compassion, patience. I have found that I respect those who have experienced traumatic situations yet they treat others with kindness and understanding. Rather than propagating this "if I was hurt then I will hurt others NONSENSE" yes broken people do that and it's not okay! I respect people who have been hurt, experienced pain suffering and they don't want to ever do that to others because they understand how terrible it is.. we still have so much to learn about the layers of the human mind and urges. I always feel it's fine, and uncontrollable if a random morbid thought pops into your head, it's a part of our human nature, but it's up to Us to decide if we act upon that random thought. We should be comfortable with our abstract internal mental voice that it doesn't always make sense or need to be listened to, we are allowed to have abstract thoughts and thought experiments. It doesn't make us a bad person. If we act out and hurt another person tho, that's bad. It's easy to understand and for some reason we muddy up the line of separation of good and bad person... Just don't hurt others.
Good and evil are human concepts. They are value judgements regarding things that we perceive to be of benefit or detriment to our interests. In nature good and evil do not exist. All actions and events in the natural world follow the laws of nature and the competition to survive the chaos, nothing more.
How about that concluding statement . 👏👏
honestly people separate us from animals too much. we are natural creatures and came about the same as every other animal did no matter how different we are from them. humans like every other animal want to survive and reproduce, witch is the cause for every emotion and function we have. humans less like every other animal are very good at adapting and adapt to their environment, witch is why upbringing is so impactful to our person later in life.
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Morality is simply a choice. As simple as that.
Someone once said, “The one you feed.”
Even though I prefer to do good things, I’m naturally an evil person
"Life is an accident". ..... Charles Krauthammer. "Despicable Us"......Me.
the video length is "Hell" backwards
OMG
And?
If left to our own devices, we'd reorganize into what we always were and are. Intelligent but not always wise social creatures.
It is true that authority does allow us to act in a certain manner which we otherwise wouldn't be able to because of societal moral standards. Whether it be following a leader for military coup or misusing power on locals, we do hide behind the authority of law and somehow find ways to please ourselves.
I do not believe people are evil. I do however know that people can easily do very evil things while thinking they are either doing something good or something for the greater good.
I think people are evil. I noticed that kids will attack and bully anyone who look different from them. I'm also speaking as an Asian man who used to live in the Bronx going to school with black and Latinos kids. Black and Latino were the majority of the school, so I guess you know who got bullied
yep, been proven too many times
Just answering to the title, human aren't born good or evil, like animals, some of us are cruel, but because of our intelligence, we created a set of rules and culture to make ourselves "good" in the benefit of all mankind
You read my mind I have been waiting for this video
I read an articles about it is so interesting
What did you just call my posterior!? Take that back right this minute mister.
I always think ' the road to hell is paved with good intentions'.
You have to do what you got to do, even if it involves screwing others over.
We're all capable of both good and evil, in some cases extreme evil. There is no light without dark.
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I think the quote from true detective puts it in perfect way "The world needs bad men. We keep the other bad men from the door."
Yup...Can't have one without the other
Awesome, and insightfully thought provoking subject!!!!$😎🔥🤙
I'm not a good person, I just have goodness in me. I can be generous, caring, comforting but i'm also vengeful, spiteful, ignorant, stubborn and selfish 🤷♂
Is human nature evil? Just take a look at history and how people treat each other on the internet and there’s your answer
I wouldn't say that humans are evil by nature but instinctively we are violent throughout human history we have done horrible disgusting things due to greed for money selfishness or individual ideology
We fear what we don’t understand and it causes conflict and violence
That's deep.
We have to be violent, or else creatures who are violent will kill us
Supposing you hear a cry for help from a man in danger. You will probably feel two desires - one a desire to give help (due to your herd instinct), the other a desire to keep out of danger (due to the instinct for self-preservation). But you will find inside you, in addition to these two impulses, a third thing which tells you that you ought to follow the impulse to help, and suppress the impulse to run away. Now this thing that judges between two instincts, that decides which should be encouraged, cannot itself be either of them. You might as well say that the sheet of music which tells you, at a given moment, to play one note on the piano and not another, is itself one of the notes on the keyboard. The Moral Law tells us the tune we have to play: our instincts are merely the keys.
C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity
Neither it's all gray what we decide is good or evil is based purely on our own experiences, culture, and the physical material consequences of our actions. An objective good and evil don't exist because they're murly social constructs created by humans that's the reason our ideas of morality and the laws based around them change and evolve over time.
"Nothing is inherently good or evil."
- Me
I think humans are born inherently selfish. If we can serve ourselves in a way that benefits others too, then we'll feel good about it. If not, we may feel guilty, but ultimately prioritize ourselves. Empathy is learned, and the only pain and fear we can actually feel is our own.
Or humans are inherently selfish and they will do whatever they think will benefit them. The child would rather have the nice bear because the baby thinks the bear will be nice to the baby. People obey orders because its in their best interest to listen then to go against order as their could be punishment or confrontation. Most people try to avoid confrontation.