Nuova Simonelli Oscar II | Crew Review
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- We gave the Nuova Simonelli Oscar 2 the full Crew Review. In this video Gail goes over the pros and cons of this new espresso machine before brewing up a tasty cappuccino!
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4:02 Gail is like the linus tech tips of coffee
instead of dropping a gpu its turning on a steam wand and nearly burning yourself
you're so refreshing and informative and fun to watch...you made this simple for me...just got this machine and you calmed the terror of newness...
thank you
"I don't know what the scoop is all about,but you get a scoop in any case"..Your personality is classic.So polite and refreshing.I know your family and friends just love you.As do I and am sure most all who watch you do too.You Rock.Back to the video...
Thanks for the info! Are parts widely available for Nuova Simonelli? Im tired of trying to find parts for my Reneka....
Gail, How many shots can you get out of the Oscar II before it refills the boiler? What kind of wait time for it to heat up?...Thanks in advance.
how many milk based drinks can I make at one setting? I recently started making around six or seven lattes one after another and I was wondering if the Oscar ii can handle that. thanks in advance.
Hi there, thanks for the excellent review. had a quick question,
how easy is it to go from plumed in to water tank?
Hi, How has the sette 270 held up with your experience? I've read a few reviews that the motor dies out in about 6 months?
hi Gail, is the analogue steaming power is a disadvantage in the matter of using less differentiate steaming power during frothing? isn't it too high (power) for having a nice smooth foam?
Did you install the Sirai pressurestat or is it factory installed? because in Europe it only has the normal one. and what do you think the benefit would be over the regular one ?
I have new Oscar 2 and from the first shot I have water leaking
How can I solve this problem?
Thank you for the video! Is there a period of warmup before using it? And can you do 4-5 drinks back to back?
Does the brew buttons program for time brewing or water volume?
can you use any other regular E61 portafilter on this machine?
Seattle Coffee Gear, can PID and Manometer be installed on this machine?
Hi gail.... is this machine fit for commercial use? And how many cups per hour ?
Does the machine come with 100-240Vac input voltage?
Looking at the prices online it seems the "lelit Mara PL62S" is way more expensive, is there anything that the former offers that makes it better than the oscar ii ?!!
How to descale the oscar 2 ?i see video on oscar 1 but i dont understand.
Please make a video how to descale oscar 2 :)
Thanks
which would you consider a better machine, than the new from La Soaziale?
You've got me hooked on coffee and coffee machines Gail - I love the reviews - Rick in Oz
hi🙋🏻♂️, i got 2 questions, regarding the opv, is the espresso quality is the same as breville bes870? because, i think both have 15 pressure right?
if the pressure is too high, i grind coarser, it solved the problem right?
Is the sirai pressurestat adjustable? It looks like it..?
what about this vs the pro 500?? which is a better more.reliable.machine
I'm curious about Gail's opinion. Does she prefer a dual boiler or heat exchanger and why?
hello I have nuova simonelli oscar || and also i have sette 270 what is the number you chose and the letter in the sette 270 for best espresso ?
What’s best machine for small business which can make until 60 cup per day and budget less than 2000$
Is it normal for the Machine Indicator to turn red every single time in the middle of the brew time.
Hello, do you Know the size (in grams) of the single and double basket
Hi Gail,
Thanks for the review, I have a question, is the cup warmer section actually hot enough to heat up the cups as you mentioned that the top is plastic.. as far as I know plastic does'nt conduct heat that well.
Thanks!
After sometime on, the top gets hot to the touch.
Is the brew head the same one that they use in the commercial machines?
It irks me when high end machines ship with plastic tampers. Seriously nuova? Step yo game up!
Thanks, Gail! I enjoy your reviews :)
+WendiAlene Cheers! Thanks for watching!
How many grams of coffee did you use for the double?
We just got one and today is the first say I have used it. I was shocked at the steam wand power. So fast! The tamper though! What?!? 😆😆😆😆 it’s like a little kids toy!
How long does it take for the machine to heat up?
Hi, I have the oportunity to buy this machine or the Musica machine, but I'm not sure which machine it's better for a little store in the beach, can anyone help me please¡¡ Thanks a lot.
Hi Gail! Thanks for the review! I had one question for you. Which model would you prefer, the original Oscar or the Oscar II? Thanks!
+Steven Juarez Oscar 2 is leaps beyond the original Oscar :D Stay tuned for our comparison of the two coming soon!
Absolutely amazing espresso/cappuccino machine!
Hi Gail, I have a question, how do I know that I push the pump too far? Can it be shown by the sound it makes? Because I always need to grind the coffee really fine to get 40 grams yield in 20-30 seconds.
I do notice that the pump going from being very noisy at start and then the sound start to quieter when brewing. Its like when we do a backflush the pump sound start to fade on the count of 9 or 10 seconds.
I have owned a Oscar for 14 years. It has treated us well. It is time for an upgrade and have been looking at this model. Great steam pressure and pulls a great shot. The one hang up I have with this is it doesn't have a manual pour. I always open the steam valve and manually pour water through the group head before I pour my shot. This will make me pour a preset short single. A manual button would be nice but still thinking this is going to be on my counter soon.
Wow 14 years, that's worth the price.
The money that spended on espresso machine, and used for that long period of time, that's well spend purchased.
This comment got me thinking to buy espresso machine from this brand, Nuova Simonelli.
Is baratza encore fine grind level good enough to use on Nuova Simonelli Oscar II?
We wouldn't recommend it. Check out this video, it demonstrates why not: th-cam.com/video/7DsT7WE78tg/w-d-xo.html
What is the anticipated amount of drinks per hour. Would you recommend the Oscar in a small start up shop anticipating a customer base of 25 to 35 at the busiest time.
Is than an hour? If you give our commercial folks a call they can help answer all your specific questions. 866.372.4734 Cheers!
What kind of coffee grinder?
I have the Oscar ll for a month now, great machine! But in my box, the portafilter was not divided into two parts, and i cant undo or turn the dripping part (forgot its name). Someone said that in some cases they are glued. Does that seem right? For me its not a problem but the two dripping holes are not perfectly horizontal with the handle of the portafilter. Its like a corner of 45 degrees. Another question, how frequently do you need to clean which parts? Because the manual is a bit severe or exaggerated imo.
+Lennart Vanstaen The spouts? They should twist off, are you unable to do that? As for cleaning, you will want to backflush about once a month- depending on your usage. And always wipe off and purge your steam wand after every use. Wiping out the water tank every so often is also a good habit to have :D We would recommend reading the manual for descaling and other cleaning tips as every manufacture is a little different.
+Seattle Coffee Gear no the sprout wont come off...
+Lennart Vanstaen and what do you mean by backflush? I have good habits! :) i always clean the steam wand and also before each cup i let a little water flow through without the portafilter on.
+Lennart Vanstaen Love it! Check this out: th-cam.com/video/y8kFLV40cuw/w-d-xo.html
I bought the Rocket Appartamento instead. Couple reasons are I like manual lever and not the timed pour of the Oscar. I also like the ease of maintenance on the group head and valves up front without having to tare into the machine. Rebuilding the group head is simple. The last reason is I just done care for the design of the Oscar. I'm sure it's a good machine for the price just not for me. And I did buy my Rocket from you. Should be here tomorrow.
Hi, could you please tell me what the water temperature that comes out from the grouphead please?
A shot should pull at 203.5
Very nice. Sette sounds LOUD though? Will consider the Oscar II once my trusty Breville Barista Express carks it. Still going strong after two years of solid use though. Now paired with a Macap M4D which is a significant improvement on the built in grinder.
+iggyman83 Quite the upgrade! It is a bit loud- but boy is it fast!
Just purchased this for our small coffee shop. Wondering if its okay to fill the reservoir without removing it to maximize time?
How is the machine for your shop
@@brittanybutler2211 it did well but was too small for our shop. We maybe do 20-40 espresso drinks a day and the reservoir was a little frustrating to work with so we got a larger machine to plumb in. Otherwise, it’s frothing arm is UNMATCHED and it made beautiful and delicious espresso. It does have a non food safe part (not made of stainless steel) which is weird. Can’t remember exactly what it was but I think it was the solenoid, which means it’ll wear faster than higher end machines
Help us Gail!! We are super new to the espresso scene. And soooo lost!! When we program the machine for one ounce for single and two for double it it only runs for 11 seconds. At 30 seconds we have a cup of liquid!!
Your grind, and probably amount of espresso is off
What a beauty! My dream Espresso Machine! I wish I'll have this in the future! :D
+Parisia Bohol :D Woohoo!
did you bought it ?
Hi Gail! (I feel like I know you after having watched so many of your videos!) Is it possible to get an instruction video of how to descale the Oscar II? I read somewhere that it has a drain tap making it very easy to descale.
can you use this oscar II for commercial? and how much cup per day is the limit?
Axel Hidayat yes this is for comercial use and you could make +- 50 cups an hour
Out of the machines you've reviewed, which do you recommend for making cappuccinos and lattes in a small business?
I don't know whether my Oscar II has an issue: when I use single or double shot buttons the water does not flow continuosly. For example, within the 30 sec of the double shot, at 12-13 sec a lot of steam starts to flow over the shower and the water disappear. After 5-6 seconds of steam, a lot of water starts to flow but very hot. All my coffees end with a "burned" flavor because of this pattern. Sometimes I get 160 g of water and sometimes until 250g in the same 30sec. I have seen owners without this problem and other owners with this same issue but all the machines are new so this is very strange.
Are you flushing your machine before brewing?
Of course
Does the plastic lever for the steam control seem sturdy? Thank you.
Definitely!
@@SeattleCoffeeGear Seems sturdy, but my second-hand Oscar II's lever gave out and broke off the first time I wanted to use it....living close to Italy I could order a steam lever from Gianni Bonfigli from Elektros.it for 10 bucks....replaced it myself, not a problem at all, and all was good. Makes fantastic coffee. Thanks for your videos.
can you recommend for me, what the best espresso machine for small coffee shop ?
Yg semi komersil atau komersil bisa pake mesin yg di review ini harganya 24 juta pasarannya
Understand there is no dedicated button for manual brew on the Oscar II as compared to the Musica. How does the Oscar II allow you to do a manual brew?
Program one button to 45 seconds or whatever, and touch it again to stop it when you need to.
wow. Sette did a great job. Which one is better? Nuova Simonelli Mythos or Sette? Would like to see your response. Thanks a lot!
+Jessica Ariella We have not played with a Mythos, but will check it out! Thanks for watching!
Gail! Please review the Sette soon! I own a Rocky and I'm looking at an upgrade. I wonder if the Sette grinds finer than the rocky and that's exactly I need. I'm looking at the Sette 270 or the Eureka Zenith. Hello from Singapore!
+Alvin Ng Monday :D
You guys using rainwater?
I have an Oscar 2 machine and also Baratza Sette 270, what is the best degree in espresso grinding
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اخوي شوف الرابط هذا ؛
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How long does it take to warm up?
20 minutes.
Wow, what a treat the new Oscar and the Sette! When is the Crew Review of the Sette? Any chance there will be a Machine/Grinder package of these two? Count me interested. Thanks Gail!
+David Kelly Coming soon! Thanks for watching :D
The important question
Is the older sister MUSICA worth the price difference when compared to OSCAR II?
I am confused, any opinions? 😊
We think so. Upgraded steam wand, programmable buttons, and of course the looks of the new machine. Check this out if you haven't already: th-cam.com/video/N9hCEUQknpY/w-d-xo.html
+Seattle Coffee Gear
I agree with you, may be I wasn't clear enough. What I mean is the comparison between oscar ii and musica. As you know there is a huge difference in price between the two. So, do you think the musica worth paying more. From what I see there is not much difference. I see oscar ii as better option when taking the price into account. Thanks ✌🏻️
Whoops! Misread your original post. The big thing the Musica has over the Oscar 2 is the volumetric programming. The Oscar 2 is time based. For some, the volumetric programming is huge. For others, it doesn't really matter.
How long does it take to heat up madam, I guess we don't want to chase people away with that useful info.
Wow! The Sette grinds FAST!
+ascosta So fast!
ahahaha, a tulip coming up in early spring. art's all in the eye of the beholder, right? :)
+Kevin Andrew Very true :D hehe
Honestly that's the fun part, the part that make this video good. And entertaining.😆
Even though this video about Espresso machine, lovely mess up latte art is Wonderful part.
I've been keep watching this video just because that part. 😅
Sorry SCG 🙏
Love U Gail!!
It is all about you Gail!
+tacodias :D
I noticed that some people recommend installing an OPV on the Oscar 2. Is this a necessary extra purchase?
Hi Zach!
You can easily make a fantastic shot without it if you have a solid grinder. You don't have a pressure gauge so you have to dial it in by taste, which is where that grinder comes into play. I'd argue that the cost of the Oscar II + OPV & installation means that you could have purchased a nicer machine.
Looks like a nice decent machine for a very good price. :)
What about the Gaggia Classic? Have you ever reviewed it?
+Jonas Voß We do not carry the Gaggia brand, and as a result, do not have any to play with!
not even the same ballpark!
I've been looking at both this and the Breville dual boiler. I fell like the Breville has a lifetime of 5 years or so. Is this machine build better? Well looked after could it last like my Silvia?
My family has had the same Breville dual boiler for 10 years. It's only now acting up. Worthwhile purchase
@@jacklangley8653 appreciate the reply!
About how long does it take the boiler to come up to temperature?
+edgardo reyes About 20 minutes
+Seattle Coffee Gear ahhhg!!!! I can wait that long for coffee!!!
+edgardo reyes :D That will be a pretty standard warm up time- a machine with an auto on function might be good for you! The Oracle for example: th-cam.com/video/gz_5uRZy4FQ/w-d-xo.html
I've been eyeing the Oracle.
+edgardo reyes Since Oscar II comes with vacuum breaker, you can put it on a timer, so it is hot, when you get up.
great vid love it
Thanks!
More interested in the Sette than the Oscar!
Thanks for review. But you know, I think you'll need more detail review about inside parts. Because Oscar (old model) has no OPV, Giggler etc .. I want to know about improvement points.
+ Anti-vacuum valve installed originally
+ Giglers installed originally
+ The retaining valve installed originally is in steel instead of plastic
+ The pressurestat is not screwed directly on the boiler but through a tube
- The default pressure is 15 bar
- No overpressure valve (the OPV allows for a constant 10 bar extraction, instead of 15 bar)
- No professional Sirai pressurestat
Thanks for reply.
Hmm .. I think little bit enhanced.
+Chanets In the video, you can see Sirai pressurestat.
+hl450 Yes, you're right. I guess it comes only for the US, because for the European market, the dealers sell the Oscar II without the Sirai pressurestat. It can be added at an extra cost.
I'm addicted to coffee videos, mmmmmmmm.
+nibot kram Uh oh! ;D
Is there an optional grate you can purchase to replace the cheap looking one? From what I can see, that is the only drawback to this machine
Блин , ну пролив же ужасен, что это вообще.. А обзор хорош.
Gail, can I confirm that the buttons are volumetric based on an internal flow meter and not based on time?
The Oscar 2 is time based while the Musica has an internal flow meter- sorry for any confusion!
+Seattle Coffee Gear hi Gail, I read on the Oscar 2 manual page 24 of 72 that programming is based on "desired dose", and someone from another popular coffee website told me that it's based on dose via internal flow meter rather than time. Could you do a test (maybe tamp harder and looser using same coffee) and let me know again please? It's important to me because if it's time-based, I won't be buying it.
We spoke with Nuova Simonelli on this, it is time based.
+Seattle Coffee Gear thanks for the confirmation Gail. It's disappointing to hear that.
If based on time, can they be accurately described as volumetric?
Hi Gail, why were you hanging on to the portafilter handle for so long at the beginning of the video?
Either Oscar 2 or the Appia single is my next espresso machine, but definitely Nuova Simonelli.
+Kenneth Segovia Choices choices!
If you got the room and the cash, get the Appia. I think it is on direkt water only, so get a DVA for the water.
I have one of these and it takes like 10 seconds before the coffee starts coming out, do you know the reason for that?
The Oscar II has 2 second pre-infusion built in to programming, and it also takes time to saturate and expand the puck when you pull a shot. This pause is usually around 5 seconds, so if yours is taking quite a bit longer you might be grinding too fine.
Anyone has inconsistent flow / extraction issue with Oscar II? espresso extracts 15 sec after button is pressed.. comes out bitter, with no crema.
Check your grind maybe ?
Have you done a comparison between NS Oscar 2 Vs Musica?
We have not. Would you like to see one?
Yes, please.
yes please!
Yes please. That would be really helpful. Thanx in advance
Would u recommend the oscar 2 or the musica?
funny and informative! haha
No cooling flush needed on this heat exchanger machine?
+Rafael Schirru Yes you need a cooling flush. We were using the machine right before filming, so it only sat for a little bit. One of those, do as we say not as we do situations :D hehe
Anyone think that Oscar 2 can accommodate small restaurant?
yes
I mean, for efficiency in the morning, the Oscar II and a Sette is such a great combination. The speed of the grind, and the steam quality is just excellent - almost commercial! Will have to check these machines out at my local dealer in Norway. Thanks for the video!
+Bjarne Dankel d.y. Cheers! Thanks for watching!
Btw, how long is the warm-up time?
+Bjarne Dankel d.y. About 20 minutes
Thanks!
Rotary pump?
Vibratory
Good Review, however you left out a vital mistake with the Oscar it doesn't have a bypass valve to ensure extraction at 9bar, and the oscar can run at 10 or even 11 bar, it needs a fix which i explain on my site Spina Espresso - TH-cam
why does my coffee taste bitter, (burnt bitter).
rule no.1 you always flush a hx before brewing
Hot water for Americanos?
+knightone57 No hot water.
+Chanets Correct
+Seattle Coffee Gear Too bad
+Leon Dennis Nah. Only the Americans and the tea-folks really need it ...
Someday they will put a real rotary pump instead of a vibration pump. All thats missing.
👍
I died at 07:44
I imagine this machine can't really to Americano's then?
True
Great machine except you can't control extraction pressure! Since you can't it's harder to adjust the grind and you have to weigh the coffee to get consistent shots. Equals coffee waist. 19 Bar pressure from the factory and it should be 9 or 10. Steam pressure fantastic!
Get an OPV for 30EUR from Elektros