is like me when i play assetto corsa online and someone join in lobby and ask how many fuel need for the race asking: "fuel ?" and i reply: "yes, you need some"
Be careful about the tyre pressure vs temperature thing, because at 10:00 it is the prime example of what you should not do in any good sim with a good tyre model. The aim there is not to increase the tyre pressure to reduce the temperature, but rather to have the optimal pressure for the highest contact patch possible. - *Too low pressure* = sidewalls do all the work = the centre part of the tyre is not in proper contact with the ground (concave shape) = the tyre has flex due to low pressure ----> As a result, the tyre overheats but also has less grip due to reduced contact patch. - *Correct pressure* = the centre of the tyre becomes flatter = the full tread does all the work ----> more evenly distributed heat + optimal grip due to maximised contact patch - *Too high pressure* = convex ----> Reduced grip with *more heat generated in the centre of the tyre* (which is not easily noticeable at the front thanks to high camber, but becomes a problem at the rear) In conclusion : *In sims with good tyre models, do not change tyre pressure to change their operating temperature* . Instead, change the pressure to be at the tyre pressure that gives the tyre the maximum grip (maximum contact patch) with the ground - on the Ford GTE in the video, it is between 1.7 and 1.80 when tyres ARE WARM after a few laps. *You change the compound (soft, medium, hard) for the comfortable operating temperature, not the pressure.*
@@johnnywaffles2482 when its colder you have to "slightly" reduce tire pressure to make the tire carcass flex more thus generating more heat to compensate for the colder temp
@@johnnywaffles2482 Tyre temperature and pressure management is very complicated. F1 teams with people who have way more knowledge than the average joe struggle with them for a good reason! *The heat from the brakes is what most of the time determines how much the pressure is going to increase* from the pit exit to the long term operating window. The brakes are massive 400° heaters and they heat the rim very quickly, which has a huge impact on tyre pressure. ---> you can manage how much pressure increase you get in operating conditions by playing with the brake ducts (of course, within the brakes' operating temperature window, do not go for extremes). As a general rule of thumb : *Higher track temperature* = hotter tyres = air expands more = the tyre has more pressure when it is at operating temperature. ---> *you decrease the base pressure* (when the tyre is cold) to make sure the tyre always stays in the right window when it is warm *Lower track temperature* = cooler tyres = air expands less = the tyre has less pressure when it reaches its operating temperature. ---> *you increase the base pressure* What matters is that you reach your optimal operating pressure when the tyre is in its operating window. _Then, why is there some leeway in the operating pressure?_ *The wanted operating pressure is based on the track and car setup,* not the temperature. ----------> _Long straights_ = slightly higher pressure to reduce rolling resistance = higher top speed ----------> _Bumpy, slow track, or difficult trailbraking_ = slightly lower pressure to improve traction by allowing the tyre to absorb the small bumps. *Tyre pressure is used to get the best laptime possible, not longevity* EDIT for @bootsmanaa : I agree that in some cases it is possible that the track is so cold and the tyres have so little heat that you benefit from a _slightly_ lower pressure as the track is lapped more slowly = traction becomes more of an issue.
Watching these newer videos in addition to ones from even four years ago have helped me build the foundation for sim racing. I just want to thank you for all you help and loyalty to this thing we all love! :)
I think you forgot the brake ducts. Many people forget it, but you close your brake duct too much, your brake disk will not only stay hot, but it'll heat up your tire itself, raising the tire pressure. If you drive a porsche 911 RSR GTE around the nordschliefe in project cars 2 and the rear brake ducts are closed, you'll notice the car gets very slippy and wants to oversteer. Open the ducts more and your tires stay good. Also, like someone else already said, the tire pressure is not for the temperature, but the optimum grip. Read the other long comment, he explains is very well.
Note: In Assetto Corsa, sometimes tyre temperatures are "broken" - despite setting them to the correct pressure values they are shown as "too cold". You need to set them to the correct pressure anyway and ignore the temperature.
Man your tips are so useful and so didactic! I'm watching again some of your videos from 3 years ago! I'm still playing PCars on PS4 driving with controller (single player, just for fun), but my skills improve so much faster thanks to your tips. The only thing I still can't do is to turn off driving assists using controller... Thanks a lot and keep going man.
Another reason why the tires don't get warm: You're driving a car with so little HP it doesn't even matter. Try heating your tires with an Isetta, or a Prius (FM4) - they probably won't get hot, even on a track with lots of corners. I drove the Prius around Fujimi (a racetrack up and down a mountain with a lot of corners) for several rounds and they never got warm.
Even its no strange to set different compounds in each side. For example, Montmeló punishes left side tyres dramatically more than right ones. Thanks a lot for your videos, Viper
Personally if a race has an optional tire setting I normally go for medium compound as it the best of both worlds and then on my final pit stop I switch to soft (or super soft) to widen or close the gap
Hey viper, una pregunta: ¿"Ablandar" las suspensiones traseras, reducir un poco la fuerza de los frenos traseros y poner un alerón me ayudaría a distribuir la mayoría del peso del auto atrás y así evitar el sobreviraje con los autos FR? También puedo poner un LSD, pero no me gusta mucho por el subviraje...
Tu idea es correcta, pero está mal expresada. Con esos cambios, sí, tendras más subviraje. Pero el peso del coche siempre permanece igual, no se distribuye de manera diferente gracias a estos cambios. El L.S.D. también es una herramienta muy útil para gestionar subviraje / sobreviraje, sin embargo, ¡ cuidado de no poner valores demasiado altos/bajos!
@@viperconcept Muchas gracias Viper, junto a esto de los neumáticos de seguro ya no tendré problemas con el sobreviraje. Me gustaría correr con tigo, pero GT6 ya no tiene modo en línea :'(
@@aceroargentino1049 Tengo una Play 3, una PC pero del 2007 que es sólo para uso familiar y mi laptop Acer Aspire con Windows 8. Si conoces un simulador relativamente liviano, dímelo. Por cierto, sí, Viper habla español. Vivió algunos años en España
I am struggeling to get temp. in my tyres on Monza. Isn't it right to have a higher pressure on fast tracks or am I wrong? I cant change my compound and I guess on these long straights there is not much to change on my driving style.
Ça serait super de faire des vidéos sur la conduite sur les différentes type de surface en rally (sur dirt rally 2.0 par exemple) que ce soit bitumes, terre, gravier neige et glace etc ^^
7:30 Bro hai un force feedback spaventoso! Lo devi ridurre, perché si vede dall' iconcina a destra dell'acceleratore verde, quando è rossa vuol dire che hai raggiunto il limite di Force feedback del volante e quindi sei in clipping. Ti dico solo che era più rosso che grigio di come dovrebbe essere normalmente
About gtsports. If you set different type of tires on axis and you are go to pits stops to change this tires, game give you the same type of tire on all wheals. You have any methods how to change tire with including axis? Great Job Viperconcept!
But why wearing a hard tires at front wheels of RWD cars influence on oversteering? Because it gives more sliding of front wheels and you drive more carefully?
i always use hard tires, i'm more comfortable with them, but in GT3, i use super slicks, they last MUCH longer and it can be use to my advantage in endurance racing
I recently made a mod for Assetto Corsa I used the Top Notch Tuning (TNT) Mazda RX8 and put a spoiler, Drag tires (from Extreme Tuner's Evo VIII) and it has a great handling but oversteers even If I put AWD/AWD2. I can give you the link to the car and test it out yourself. Because I need just enough grip (like Race cars. Modern race cars like LMP)
I wanted to ask if there was a chance (not saying you have to be it would be nice fro me at least) if you could put your lessons on the car, tracks, etc. in a playlist for people who want to learn like me? Sorry if that is too much to ask for.
Viper: "The importance of tires."
My dumbass: "You can't drive without them."
you ain't wrong though...
is like me when i play assetto corsa online and someone join in lobby and ask how many fuel need for the race asking: "fuel ?"
and i reply: "yes, you need some"
@@gesucristo9946 Wow XD
Damn not even a xbox player but that intro brings back memories
@@blobers8566 but no one asked...?
@@edmund8954 uhh idk how to answer that one but i guess ill delete that comment
lolz
An xbox play*
Be careful about the tyre pressure vs temperature thing, because at 10:00 it is the prime example of what you should not do in any good sim with a good tyre model.
The aim there is not to increase the tyre pressure to reduce the temperature, but rather to have the optimal pressure for the highest contact patch possible.
- *Too low pressure* = sidewalls do all the work = the centre part of the tyre is not in proper contact with the ground (concave shape) = the tyre has flex due to low pressure
----> As a result, the tyre overheats but also has less grip due to reduced contact patch.
- *Correct pressure* = the centre of the tyre becomes flatter = the full tread does all the work
----> more evenly distributed heat + optimal grip due to maximised contact patch
- *Too high pressure* = convex
----> Reduced grip with *more heat generated in the centre of the tyre* (which is not easily noticeable at the front thanks to high camber, but becomes a problem at the rear)
In conclusion :
*In sims with good tyre models, do not change tyre pressure to change their operating temperature* . Instead, change the pressure to be at the tyre pressure that gives the tyre the maximum grip (maximum contact patch) with the ground - on the Ford GTE in the video, it is between 1.7 and 1.80 when tyres ARE WARM after a few laps.
*You change the compound (soft, medium, hard) for the comfortable operating temperature, not the pressure.*
Yeah, that low pressure with tyres being colder in the middle really rubbed me the wrong way. Otherwise I think the video was solid however
I also always though that when its colder you're supposed to increase the pressure to make up for the temperature drop
@@johnnywaffles2482 when its colder you have to "slightly" reduce tire pressure to make the tire carcass flex more thus generating more heat to compensate for the colder temp
@@bootsmanaa then why do regular cars always lose tire pressure in the cold
@@johnnywaffles2482 Tyre temperature and pressure management is very complicated. F1 teams with people who have way more knowledge than the average joe struggle with them for a good reason!
*The heat from the brakes is what most of the time determines how much the pressure is going to increase* from the pit exit to the long term operating window. The brakes are massive 400° heaters and they heat the rim very quickly, which has a huge impact on tyre pressure.
---> you can manage how much pressure increase you get in operating conditions by playing with the brake ducts (of course, within the brakes' operating temperature window, do not go for extremes).
As a general rule of thumb :
*Higher track temperature* = hotter tyres = air expands more = the tyre has more pressure when it is at operating temperature.
---> *you decrease the base pressure* (when the tyre is cold) to make sure the tyre always stays in the right window when it is warm
*Lower track temperature* = cooler tyres = air expands less = the tyre has less pressure when it reaches its operating temperature.
---> *you increase the base pressure*
What matters is that you reach your optimal operating pressure when the tyre is in its operating window.
_Then, why is there some leeway in the operating pressure?_
*The wanted operating pressure is based on the track and car setup,* not the temperature.
----------> _Long straights_ = slightly higher pressure to reduce rolling resistance = higher top speed
----------> _Bumpy, slow track, or difficult trailbraking_ = slightly lower pressure to improve traction by allowing the tyre to absorb the small bumps.
*Tyre pressure is used to get the best laptime possible, not longevity*
EDIT for @bootsmanaa : I agree that in some cases it is possible that the track is so cold and the tyres have so little heat that you benefit from a _slightly_ lower pressure as the track is lapped more slowly = traction becomes more of an issue.
Watching these newer videos in addition to ones from even four years ago have helped me build the foundation for sim racing. I just want to thank you for all you help and loyalty to this thing we all love! :)
I think you forgot the brake ducts. Many people forget it, but you close your brake duct too much, your brake disk will not only stay hot, but it'll heat up your tire itself, raising the tire pressure. If you drive a porsche 911 RSR GTE around the nordschliefe in project cars 2 and the rear brake ducts are closed, you'll notice the car gets very slippy and wants to oversteer. Open the ducts more and your tires stay good. Also, like someone else already said, the tire pressure is not for the temperature, but the optimum grip. Read the other long comment, he explains is very well.
I never knew that viperconcept used demo disc intros for his intro, but the intro today was from one that i had, that is amazing
All I know about tyres is that Hamilton always kills them.
He was talking about "🅱️ono my tyres are dead"
He doesnt want to spin like Vettel
And still win
"Pronto, Jahmilton? It's s🅱️inner time!"
I thought Clarkson was the one who killed his tyres?
6:20 I'm not crying, you're crying!
GT4 memories ;)
Nice intro! Takes me back to playing Halo 1 & 2 back in the 2000s.
ty
Note: In Assetto Corsa, sometimes tyre temperatures are "broken" - despite setting them to the correct pressure values they are shown as "too cold". You need to set them to the correct pressure anyway and ignore the temperature.
Love your content viperconcept, you inspired me to start my own youtube channel.
Thank you for motivation.
Man your tips are so useful and so didactic! I'm watching again some of your videos from 3 years ago!
I'm still playing PCars on PS4 driving with controller (single player, just for fun), but my skills improve so much faster thanks to your tips. The only thing I still can't do is to turn off driving assists using controller...
Thanks a lot and keep going man.
Lewis Hamilton, this is how you take care of tyres.
But the fucker is always faster even on dead tires
Lorenzo Clara lmao
He drives the car faster with only using rims compared to you with ultrasoft compound
@@akhyarrayhka4048 jokes on you, i use hard tyres every fricking time
@@junienet uh ur salty
priceless as all the others lessons videos. thank you
Your videos are excelentes and this is not different. Thank you for share your knowledge about racing games to us. Keep the good work
Another reason why the tires don't get warm:
You're driving a car with so little HP it doesn't even matter.
Try heating your tires with an Isetta, or a Prius (FM4) - they probably won't get hot, even on a track with lots of corners.
I drove the Prius around Fujimi (a racetrack up and down a mountain with a lot of corners) for several rounds and they never got warm.
Even its no strange to set different compounds in each side. For example, Montmeló punishes left side tyres dramatically more than right ones. Thanks a lot for your videos, Viper
Should've used rfactor2 or lfs to explain the tyres, because they have one of the best tyre models on the lot
Hey everyone, which game is the one between 1:23 and 2:32?
GT Sport
Adema gt sport
@@TheTheaterdreamer thanks ou obrigado, talvez?
@@Okanada thank you sir
@@xJunioorx you are welcome
Great lesson. Thank you!
Personally if a race has an optional tire setting I normally go for medium compound as it the best of both worlds and then on my final pit stop I switch to soft (or super soft) to widen or close the gap
Hi, Viper! Could you consider doing a video on the recently launched Automobilista 2? Great video, by the way. Cheers from Brazil!
As a brazilian, I would love seeing my favorite gaming youtuber review a game based on the motorsports of my coutry.
It's really good ! I'm your subscriber from Indonesia
Hey viper, una pregunta: ¿"Ablandar" las suspensiones traseras, reducir un poco la fuerza de los frenos traseros y poner un alerón me ayudaría a distribuir la mayoría del peso del auto atrás y así evitar el sobreviraje con los autos FR? También puedo poner un LSD, pero no me gusta mucho por el subviraje...
Tu idea es correcta, pero está mal expresada.
Con esos cambios, sí, tendras más subviraje. Pero el peso del coche siempre permanece igual, no se distribuye de manera diferente gracias a estos cambios.
El L.S.D. también es una herramienta muy útil para gestionar subviraje / sobreviraje, sin embargo, ¡ cuidado de no poner valores demasiado altos/bajos!
@@viperconcept Muchas gracias Viper, junto a esto de los neumáticos de seguro ya no tendré problemas con el sobreviraje. Me gustaría correr con tigo, pero GT6 ya no tiene modo en línea :'(
viperconcept hablas español tambien? Porque no lo hayas dicho antes 😂
Just a Hyundai Genesis Coupe no tienes una pc o play 4?
@@aceroargentino1049 Tengo una Play 3, una PC pero del 2007 que es sólo para uso familiar y mi laptop Acer Aspire con Windows 8. Si conoces un simulador relativamente liviano, dímelo.
Por cierto, sí, Viper habla español. Vivió algunos años en España
In Drag Racing they do burnout first before they race to get the rear tires more grip
10:48 - Project Cars 2 in a nutshell. "Lap time invalidated by the Race Director because he doesn't like the colour of your car".
Racist race director
Is it effective to increase tyre temp with little toe, chamber, and damper adjustment? Assumed I already found my comfortable setup.
12:05 Gran Turismo 3, Concept, and 4 Prologue brought me here.
That ps2 demo disc intro hit me like a train with nostalgia.
brilliant information, thanx
I am struggeling to get temp. in my tyres on Monza. Isn't it right to have a higher pressure on fast tracks or am I wrong? I cant change my compound and I guess on these long straights there is not much to change on my driving style.
what game is on 11:30 ?
I liked the older patreon supporter page music a lot more, bring it back!!
(0:11) NOO WAY!!! I do have the ps2 demo disk with this home selection....(but with other demo selection)
Which game is it at 7:20 ? That E36 is beautiful
assetto corsa
Nice video and tips
2:00.
You should have no problem because really worn soft are same as hards
Original xbox intro. I love it!
Resume: U need to be a race engineer xD, Viper really good and useful info
Viperconcept: *plays on ps4 and pc*
Viperconcept's intro: *X B O X*
haha, nice i remember the original xbox start up screen with fondness. now its been viperfied.
Thanks
Nice, like always, a nice video that helped me to understand more of the tires and the important help of the tires in the grip, amazing :D
Intro baseada no xbox? Isso é novidade vindo de você, hein? Amei!...
Love the new intro
Ça serait super de faire des vidéos sur la conduite sur les différentes type de surface en rally (sur dirt rally 2.0 par exemple) que ce soit bitumes, terre, gravier neige et glace etc ^^
Some how I use less tyres when doing long endurance race in the Belgium track :)
7:30 Bro hai un force feedback spaventoso! Lo devi ridurre, perché si vede dall' iconcina a destra dell'acceleratore verde, quando è rossa vuol dire che hai raggiunto il limite di Force feedback del volante e quindi sei in clipping. Ti dico solo che era più rosso che grigio di come dovrebbe essere normalmente
About gtsports.
If you set different type of tires on axis and you are go to pits stops to change this tires, game give you the same type of tire on all wheals. You have any methods how to change tire with including axis?
Great Job Viperconcept!
Like the new into
13:00 You can't add weight to the rear of the car to balance it out anymore?
14:50 This must be for those who didn't watch the suspension episode.
You've made this video over and over already
Thank for Trick Racing Game.
Next episode (video) I think you made racing conten is "Best Track for Beginner and Pro-player in Racing Game"
Ahhhhh that intro man...
You have to do setup video on assetto corsa competizione, actually it's one of the best full sim, it is very close to real physics
i play asseto since 2013, pre-Alpha: Red Tyres with 100 °Celsius at 40 psi 👌🏎
When my tires go skrr
I felt that.
Justo ayer buscaba un video asiii
Like the new intro
The music in the background during the credits for the patreon supporters come out of one of those DVD for PS2 with demo games in it. Am i right?
Not gonna lie when you show your thanks on patreon it looks like a ad on adult swim
What is the game with the gt mclaren?
Rarely I came across with the model of the platform.
the e36 m3 gt2 is a mod for assetto corsa? is there a link for its repository?
BRUH i love that intro
That intro thooo!!!
One of the most important things!
lol I saw a clip of ace Combat 5 on the new intro and I was like hold up!
It's time for a new intro! yay!
it was about time
But why wearing a hard tires at front wheels of RWD cars influence on oversteering? Because it gives more sliding of front wheels and you drive more carefully?
Yay new intro! \o/
*viperconcept: talks about tyres *lewis Hamilton: we don’t do that here
Nice intro man
5:39 wow is that gt6?
what game is at 9:00 minute
I know it's progect car 2
i always use hard tires, i'm more comfortable with them, but in GT3, i use super slicks, they last MUCH longer and it can be use to my advantage in endurance racing
Is this the gt5 ui? 6:00 lmao?
nice new intro
Sick intro bro
thank you
@@federicoarieldominguez104 not you bro I'm talking about viperconcept
@@sha6wny But i made that intro lol, look at the channel description
@@federicoarieldominguez104 lol I didn't know man sorry😂 Good intro
Nice intro bro
Woho, this intro * __ * !!
I drive a Wet compound on sunny day, not having to change to wet every 5 second in Project cars 2
You can't be mistaked for the beginners.
Ah yes, those 4 round things made out of rubber that the car can’t function without? Ah yes they’re pretty essential ;) (JK, love you daddy Viper)
do hotter tires wear faster
Now i understand why Hamilton wont use soft tires
Intro stile vecchia Xbox c'è...ora manca solo un bel gameplay su Forza Motorsport
7:38 You mixed gran turismo with assetto corsa?
Koenigsegg one:1? Its 1 to 1 weight power ratio so it's a mega car
Bono, now you know why I need tires?
that intro omg
you should also do a video lesson on the mental side of a pilot. Driving is not just about turning the wheel and pressing the pedals
Viperconcept throwing shit on fwd again.
I recently made a mod for Assetto Corsa
I used the Top Notch Tuning (TNT) Mazda RX8 and put a spoiler, Drag tires (from Extreme Tuner's Evo VIII) and it has a great handling but oversteers even If I put AWD/AWD2. I can give you the link to the car and test it out yourself. Because I need just enough grip (like Race cars. Modern race cars like LMP)
6:39 is this some footage of the car roulette ? XD
OH MY GODDD THAT XBOX INTRO AAAAHHHHH
I wanted to ask if there was a chance (not saying you have to be it would be nice fro me at least) if you could put your lessons on the car, tracks, etc. in a playlist for people who want to learn like me? Sorry if that is too much to ask for.
ok now i'm waiting for a PS2 style Viperconcept intro
he used a ps2 intro back in early 2018
When can we see a video with your commentary?
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