YouTube Ads Told Us to Buy This: Redux Gaming PC Review
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- This review of the Redux "Good" Tier system benchmarks a $1300 build from a company that spends a lot on TH-cam advertising. Today, we're testing if it's any good.
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This review tests the Redux Good tier PC, talks about customer support and response time, value of the computer, build quality and assembly competence, and more. It's a comprehensive review of a pre-built gaming PC in the $1300 price range, competing with a dense section of the market that is fiercely crowded with competition. That means comparing the Redux PC to the likes of iBUYPOWER, Cyberpower, ABS, Skytech, HP, and Dell, among others.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Build Redux Pre-Built Review
05:59 - Tear-Down & Build Quality
09:05 - Overkill Cooling, Weird Fan Hub, & PSU
14:09 - Gaming Benchmarks - Cyberpunk 2077 at 1080p
15:38 - Red Dead Redemption 2 at 1080p
16:52 - Rainbow Six: Siege at 1080p & 1440p
18:12 - Thermals of Redux Prebuilt PC
19:14 - Noise
19:43 - Fan Control Weirdness
21:14 - Power
21:30 - Setup & Instructions
23:14 - BIOS & Software
25:14 - Conclusion
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Wow, GN is harsh,.. keep it up :b
At least its not garbage, there is an upgrade path
@GN - just on REDUX’s site, and they’re still pushing the 1650 for their “Good” build. Price was $1322 - however it auto defaulted to an AMD build with a 5600.
@Gamer Nexus test this DIY Thermal Paste: watch?v=8RJ-vLLwDPU
When Beve Sturke asks where his order is at you better respond in a timely fashion
Stede Barks
"Beve Sturke is never late, nor is he early." right, Gandalf?
@@gerhardsmith7892
Oh, he barks alright. But he can bite with his reviews, and most companies won’t escape without grievous injuries to their business (or at least their reputation). Ask Dell and HP about it.
In other words, Steve’s bite is *far* worse than his bark!
No, if he reaches out you cancel the order if you want to continue to trick people into buying your cheapo product.
@@curtisbme No you either delist the product and make another slightly different one or, fix the problem and be happy with the easy money you made
Adding the Liquid Cooler was purely a marketing choice. In my experience as a system builder, ALOT of customers prefer a gaming PC with a Liquid Cooler because they generally see it as "powerful" or "cool", and if you try and convince them to save money and use a standard air cooler instead they just brush it off or think you are trying to cheat them by using cheaper parts...don't underestimate the naivety of many people...
This. Say thanks to all those tech TH-camrs that was painting air-coolers as bad solution for years
@@8draco8 LinusMarketManipulationTips?
And in addition to that most people probably don't realize that a liquid cooler WILL need maintenance and possibly replacement with a catastrophic failure being much more likely. While a good old air cooler can practically run forever as long as you do the occasional dust-off.
I will always push for air cooler first to my customers unless it’s an i9 or Ryzen 9 , but if they insist on liquid I will not argue much, it’s more sales money for me lol
Point them to NUCs that have been running on stock air for years to support your argument. Heck, you could even use consoles as well; an XBOX 360 ran at about 180W.
Note: After visiting Redux's website they have improved the default part selection for all 3 options which is certainly a step up from what was shown in this video
well, that's nice that they actually accept feedback
Okay so now the system is just a lone turd instead of being covered in puke. Nice improvement!
@@2Evil2Hope stay salty it still beats your system lmao
@@nightmarezero8465 I'm guessing you overpaid for a POS from this company and now you feel bad. 😆
@@nightmarezero8465
That's a weird comment, considering it's not hard to get something that matches this for half the price, or beats it by 60%+ for slightly cheaper (as the video showed).
My new build is a R5 5600 and 3070 that cost about $1500 CAD and I officially think this is overrated. Even if you want an easy experience, watch some reviews and go to a different SI.
"Built fairly competently" is incredibly high praise for a pre-built, even if the specs are awful for the price.
the thing about the price is that u can customize Some of it. u can skip the windows 10 key. which decreases the value. u can get this exact build down to $1,165 by customizing it.
@@mrjaked420 I know this was a year ago, but $1,165 is still garbage value for the components. My *laptop* has a 1650 mobile (I know it's not exactly the same), a better cpu (11400H), and 144Hz monitor... for $500 total.
Yes this video and you comment are about a year old, but it still shouldn't take anywhere near $800, let alone $1,165 to build this system.
@@rube9169 I just got a second-hand like brand-new MSI Laptop with 3070 and 11th gen Octacore for €900 which is $975 currently from eBay. You really know this prebuild is f**ed when a laptop outcompetes it that includes all peripherals. And yeah, this was in times of the mining craze, but a 1650 was a ~$200 GPU back then (at least those that were available), so questionable price-balance still.
Also, yes I am aware that laptop components lose to those in Desktops due to reductions in clock-speeds (and sometimes even active cores).
The PC shown still shouldn't have topped $950 imo even back then.
@@mrjaked420 it shouldnt cost more than maybe 750 even as a prebuilt I could build something that low spec for probably 500
@@whohan779the mobile models are low power versions that are not comparable to desktop models.
"It's Not E-waste" Award! Not sure if that's better or worse than "Better than Dell".
It's better. E-waste is the enemy of right to repair. I think it's slightly below the "Doesn't Suck" award. lol
Lol I pretty much wanted to make the same comment.
i think it's about equivalent, really
I say its slightly above Dell as it's upgradable
This PC actually managed to get the "it's not ewaste" award and the "worse than Dell" award at the same time 🤯
A prebuilt with 2 sticks of ram! Someone warn Dawid, he needs to see this
Lol
That ram stick needs a friend :(
A Prebuild that doesn't suck? With 2 ram sticks? And without a 710? He doesn't have enough pants to replace the ones he soils looking at that combination.
Haha indeed
Who's dawid?
Checking the offer 5months later and the same build now contains a corsair air cooler and a 2060, the power supply is now a 600w gold. rest seems the same but for 1379$. I am assuming the performance is now way closer to other prebuilds tested and who knows, maybe just because of your review. Keep your good work up.
My brother just bought the one with the 2060 and it’s a beast.
2 years ago my nzxt came with a 2070 super over clocked with a Ryzen 3700x 120mm liquid aio cooler dual channel ram in 16gb team Vulcan ram at 3200mb, ddr4, arous b450 pro wifi motherboard, 650watt bronze power supply 1tb m.2 nvme ssd , 2 year warranty covered even with xmp profile enabled, at the time it was called the gamer and streamer pc. I paid 1400 for it for order to build to shipped I got my pc in the 2 week time frame they promised.
@@AQS521 what makes a beast? I have a 2060, too btw. I just see it used anywhere from 1060 to 3080
@candyman 1440p 165hz
@@thetshadow999animates9 2080 super or 3060ti r cheap now
Sounds like they took your advice to heart. They dropped the liquid cooler from their "Good" tier and replaced the GPU with a 2060. Unfortunately the GPU's market value is over $600. I didn't actually buy from them but was strongly considering it since I have a working 2080 so it's actually great that you can build the PC without a GPU and their website even prompts you with a question "what GPU will you be installing?" This tells me they're mindful of the fact that they will have the correct PSU leads for whatever GPU you decide to install when it arrives. Overall, this could save people a ton of money, especially someone who doesn't want to build a PC from scratch.
That being said, I ultimately built my computer from the ground up as I found some really good deals on a 12th gen i9 and corresponding mobo.
Plus building computers is fun! :)
@@MattyH1992 not really
@@Seb318 you're lame then
@@binoby4612 not everyone wants to deal with cords, thermal paste and having to research which mother board fits what processor and also won't fry it or be throttled by said motherboard. Yeah there is build my PC websites you can use that make sure stuff is compatible. but in my experience of using them then looking into the motherboards and all the stupid little ports.... You will find most parts you got for it like ram ect won't even plug into it or has not enough slots for the performance you were wanting.
@@nightmarezero8465 I rather deal with cords thermal paste and pick the parts that are going to be good value and last. And most people should. If GN testing pre builds have shown anything it is that the people taking your money and doing the job is not really doing the job or research for you.
Really if not for being bit by the hobby bug. building a PC is just easy.
B550 (brand name here), Ryzen 5600, 32GB@3200 ram. And then a ritual to the devil for a GPU at MSRP later. Ow darn just slap that thing together and turn XMP on in BIOS. Get a good deal on a decently reviewed motherboard and PSU. Like job done. No need for thermal paste since it comes applied on the stock CPU cooler. No RGB no fancy stuff. Hardest part being getting the CPU and motherboard mounted. And I guess the pins for the power button is somewhat of a pain. Ram stick and GPU takes some force and yea stock CPU cooler is a pain.
But I rather do that then whatever GN pre builds have shown us. Even laptops makes more sense then pre builds. Sorry just how it is.
"Connect your keyboard and mouse to the P."
Now normally I wouldn't kinkshame, but given the price tag for this I think a little shaming is in order.
"Naughty, naughty computer..."
im dying laughing, literrally in the P what?
Redux are friends of P so they're friends with me
5:53 That moment when Steve gives so much money to Redux, he has to change his shirt.
I seriously had to rewind to double check if his shirt indeed changed color or I simply drank too much last night.
@@daghtus Well if you have to ask, the answer's probably "both". :D
@@H0lyMoley hahaha! That was a great response!
it was a weird cut and it wasn't acknowledged, i thought it was a flashback or something for a good while
What I like about this one is that there's actually a lot of good room for upgrading, even compared to the other SI systems. The case and power supply could last you into an entirely new build in 4-5 years, or you could spread the cost out over time to upgrade one part at a time. The CPU cooler can also be kept into a new build(s) as long as you have the right mounting hardware. You won't have to buy another fan unless 3 of them break. No such thing as good value right now, but this wouldn't be a bad start if you wanted to learn to DIY into your future.
"no such thing as good value"... That mindset is wrong. There is good value everywhere. $650 can get you a decent gaming experience with a Ryzen 5600 and Radeon 6600, motherboard, psu, case, ram, ssd and all (what i just listed would out perform this Build from Redux PC in games) It's just not going to be the BEST experience you could get.
@@courtykatyeah, first reply left out the “right now” part of the original comment
New sub. Your channel is no bs, non fan boy, raw information for people like me to cut through the crap and make real decisions on what's best for what I (we) find important. Love the content. I've been binge watching and soaking it up like a sponge. Just scored an autographed tear down kit to christen my very first build, and I'm damn excited about it. Thank you for all your hard work. 🤘
Microcenter's in house prebuilts "Powerspec" are pretty good. Some questionable hardware decisions, but pretty good price for what they provide.
I can also speak for some 2nd hand accounts through my friends little bro. He unfortunately somehow had TWO AIOs fail on him in different ways, both times they replaced it by the next day, and this time with a overkill H115i Elite Capellix.
They also replaced his CPU, saying it would be "heat-damaged" from it which I'm not too sure about considering it didn't ever reach thermal shutdown... On top of that, they let him keep the components they replaced! So I'm about to get a free i7-10700K since I helped him out throughout it 😅.
Their customer service is just top notch. Shame GN couldn't have the store experience since they don't live near a microcenter.
moving to microcenter asap
Their g299 and b247 are actually fairly good value for money but those slow ram sticks and bad PSUs look awful
I was literally about to comment this. I was at my local MC today to pick up the free 240gb SSD's their giving away and looked through their prebuilt section. It was actually really good... All PC's were clearly built by someone who knows what they're doing with all off the shelf components. They even had a pre built with a 5900x, EVGA rtx 3070, Tuf x570 board, 32gb of ram, 2tb nvme, and a 240mm aio for $2200.... Adding all that up with the rest of the components at their given "msrp's" you're paying a premium of $300 bucks give or take. In todays market for a competently built pre built gaming PC that's an absolute steal. Not to mention you get a 1 year warranty on the entire PC including labor and components. I honestly couldn't imagine a world where I didn't live 10 minutes away from a microcenter lol.
@OwOmen Isn't GN in NC? If so, there are definitely MicroCenters on their continent lol
So, I suppose the summary is... "Sufficiently competent assembly, component costs not too far from to retail, questionable component selection that kills the value."
It's kinda sad, really. Had they actually used better components they could very well make a good and competent mid or high-end prebuild, something that the prebuilt market has a big shortage of.
so its like 75% alright but they just had to ruin it
@@Slaking_ Even medium to high end prebuilds are thrown together with little care. Its an epidemic. If it was easier to do so id open up a computer shop and offer properly build computers to people with custom specs and all the things a computer needs to not be dogshit.
Nailed it.
Not really. Mine runs great
Looking at their site, they offer builds with 3070s and 3080 Ti’s that are well below scalper levels so I am actually really impressed. The 3080 Ti they are charging $1350 for and you can’t get one for MSRP at that price unless its a FE version so that’s actually really good.
Love watching these videos. Not because I want to buy a pre-built, but to see the crazy things they do in these rigs.
As of October 22, the "Good" build now has a Ryzen 5 5600x w/ a B550 motherboard, the AIO was dropped for a Hyper 212 air cooler and the GPU was downgraded back to a GTX 1650.
So an actual passable machine with a needed GPU upgrade...
a 5600x paired with a gtx 1650 💩
Didn't it already have a 1650 though?
@@totallynotbluu at 25:42 it is stated at the time of recording redux is offering a 1660
At least it's not a GT 730... It doesn't even support Wayland GBM.
9:38
I love how much these channels poke fun at eachother.
I'm sitting here with a fully built PC but man I love these reviews, for the investigative purposes on wether it's good or not. But I love specs and building/ breakdowns and helping the new guy pick out something decent.
Thanx Steve for another great video and especially the announcement for the tool sets. I got my pre-order in and can’t wait for it to arrive. Your channel remains the only one I personally subscribe too.
My Girlfriend's comments on the coasters: "They look cool." This is an official seal of approval you need on the website.
This comment has been edited - correct apostrophe location applied.
Where can I download this "girlfriend"?
Your apostrophe placement is risky!
@@GamersNexus Girlfriends'? how is th- Oh.
@@GamersNexus 😂 good catch
@@GamersNexus My life is risky.
This would be a decent pre-built if it was at a sub-$800 price. It has really good upgrade potential at least.
EXACTLY I just said this, competing products at that price point have better specs, this ones lagging.
Agreed, the asking price is ehh, i can find or build better.
@@DailyCorvid $1300 is an R7 7700X, 32gb ddr5, a 6750xt, and a really good watercooler and PSU. They're trying to punch in a price range that they dont fit in lmao
This is exactly what I was looking for. Hope you audit them again
Even though I have all those tools separately in some form, I still bought the GN kit and use it regularly. They're great quality and it's nice having them all in one place with the same handles. (they didn't pay me to say this, just thought I'd chime in if anyone was on the fence about it)
Redux should use the line "It's not E-waste" - Steve Burke, Gamers Nexus as a marketing line lol
GTA radio-ad level of marketing.
But did Steve Burke actually say that? I thought that was Beve Sturke reviewing this, he did buy one after all.
Or we're not better than Dell because we got dominated by them in the tests.
8:37
"... spending more on it. Speaking of mor-on..." lmao
it's bin a little while since you did this review. That said, I purchased a higher tier Redux PC in the beginning of the year. I purchased it with an R7 3700 CPU and a RTX 3070 graphics card. At the time, I did the math and I felt that the Redux price was reasonable compared to the available parts at the time. I did not want to buy a prebuilt, but given the GPU availability at the time it seemed like a decent choice. That said, I agree with your assessment that the PC that you purchased was not exactly the right choice for the parts specified. Given that I have the same exact case, with the same exact cooling solution. I would love it if you purchased a higher performance PC from Redux and did a new review. just to see how it compares. Another thing I did different was I did not have them install the OS, since you can purchase Windows 10 & 11 for much cheaper after market. I do love your reviews. Please keep up the good work!
Yeah, I was just checking out their customization options out of curiosity, and I really like that you can just skip the OS altogether. The more things you can not pay them for and get elsewhere the better I guess.
How much was yours ? Sounds good but the cpu is a little old lol . But at least you got the 3070.
I basically just posted the same thing lol.
I got the highest tier one of thiers with a 3080ti and feel like what I paid was reasonable. And they also shipped it ahead of the predicted date. And overall did an amazing job. I'd say they're one of the better places to get a pre/custom built. I know how to build PC's but wanted to try an alternative this time cause I was feeling especially lazy [and this is one of the easiest ways to currently get a 30 series GPU].
@@Soulsworth69 good to know. I just ordered the i7 with 3080ti. How long did yours take to come in?
"We are willing to try anything once."
famous last words
For 1300 bucks I've seen some decent looking prebuilts with 3060s for around the same price on Newegg. Only having a 1650 in this is disappointing for how much it costs.
Decent? No but there are lik 3 prebuilds that had a 3060 for $1300
The 3060 is almost the whole PC price over here.
Friend got a 3070 prebuilt for 1300 in germany. Got my FE for 499, and i placed it in a 800e system.. i feel bad for people buying that kind of prebuilt.
@@silure9502 what website?
Spend 100-200$ more and you get a OMEN 25L with a 3060.
A LOT of people I know start their journey into PCs and gaming with Acer. They often have what at least seem to be the most price effective option. Would love to see one of theirs disected by you guys in this series, to see whether they actually know what they are doing, or pull of the same crap Dell & HP did.
It's same as others. They buy the same type of board with Custom branding so they can reduce labour costs for assembling. Most OEMs does this because it's cheaper.
@@akza0729 As we‘ve seen in this series, it is almost a good thing if it is just that simple. Proprietary boards, PSUs, cable layouts, front IO and even cooling mounts. Incompetent parts combination or assembly.
Dawid Does Tech Stuff had quite a few videos on prebuilds, including Acer. In short; it ain't good
@@rasmusvedel Love my Acer Gaming PC. It's one the best prebuilt's.
No prebuilt is going to give you a the flexibilty of building your own, but when you can save 500 bucks off a GPU, it becomes something to consider.
Ive watched so many of these that I actually am starting to root for them to do good in anyway, i shed a tiny fraction of a microscopic joyful tear when they had good support
Thanks for testing one of their PCs, Steve & crew! I've been debating about buying one (solely to get a graphics card).
Always happy to see "Beve Sturke" in a video!
Just subbed today because your prebuilt reviews. As someone who only buys prebuilt PCs these are great. Keep ‘em coming.
You, Linus and Jay are literally the only 3 tech channels i watch and can take serious.
I have had a total of 3 digitalstorm systems and have never had any issue yet. customer service is prompt and very helpful if needed.
Byte Size Tech / Tech Deals is another straight forward channel that will have alot of good information at times. They might not be as entertaining but they certainly have the knowledge and experience when it comes to pc building.
yeah idk about linus anymore lol
i keep getting this youtube ad of linus spending all his money on some prebuilt pc, and its not even an ad for the pc lmao
To be fair, most of Linus Tech Tips videos are pretty much ads disguised as reviews.
@@haydenw8691 People still watch that clown?
@@rentzusuken it's informative
@@rentzusuken Clearly they do. Fun fact: TH-cam actually puts numbers beneath the video to see exactly how many people do watch him.
@@rentzusuken atleast clowns are funny
I live for the backhanded comments in your commentary
21:38 “We’re willing to try anything once.” I lost it laughing
I love how you put Linus in talking about GN, and the AIO orientation. I built my daughter a Ryzen 7 7700x on a asus prime x670 mobo 32 gbs of ddr5 ram 6k mhs, using an Nzxt Kraken AIO for the cpu. It ran hot having the hoses at the top . I turned the rad upside down with the hoses at the bottom and it runs about 30degrees cooler!
Hey that's me at 3:37! Glad to see this review come out. It certainly sucks to hear the poor price to performance, but at least it's built well and has the prestigious "It's Not E-waste" Award. Thanks again so much for listening to the community and helping everyone make an educated decision on pre-builts. Keep on doing fantastic work!
How's your friend's build?
@@SuperTsogo I hve a redux pc with 3070 and 3800x. Runs perfectly, absolutely fuckign love it. Zero issues
@@Inzane8 price?
@@theplayerofus319 I got it for about $1800 back right around launch of the 3070. It’s probably more expensive now
@@Inzane8 damn 1800 for a 3070 ... i hate the pricing these days
Me with a Ryzen 3600 with a 360mm AIO With 6 fans on the radiator, don't underestimate me Steve.
Why you might ask, well the AIO was on sale on Amazon for £68 and i had 3 front mounted case fans already.
A man of true fan culture I see. As I'm currently looking at my 5000d Airflow with 12 fans in it, including 6 on my AIO in push pull. If I'm gonna go for cooling, I'm going to go for overkill.
My 3600X is in a custom loop (CPU only) xD
These reviews are very informative and necessary, great job.
I want to see a review of a system built by you that is what you would consider the best hardware combo for price-to-performance, mid-range, and absolute best gaming performance. More or less put what you feel is best out of each part and combine that into a perfect GN PreBuilt. GamersNexus Ultra Gaming X Super RGB eSports Triple+ OC Edition
On the high end it's more affordable than most prebuilds. My friend just got one with a 5800x and 3080 it was about 400 less than other prebuilds.
yep, you can get a 3060 TI and 5600x for ~1.5k?
@@Nathan-te7qr oof, I've seen that for significantly less in Canadian.
@@Rspsand07 can you buy it in Canada then ship it to me pls ty
@@PattyIce865 you'd lose the difference in import fees. Probably
@@ij6708 OH NOOOOO, government taxes and import duties! My sole weakness!
the reason for the liquid cooler and push pull, is that all higher tiers propably use the exact same setup, and its easier and more consistent if the people building it, have to build the same configuration every time, and not mix between this one has this cooler this one has another one of the 3 million coolers etc
Happy to see you point out the CPU Radiator hose issue.
I really like watching these pre-built review videos. Such epic entertainment lol 👍
Our daughter bought one in March and showed it finally up in July. We also contacted them, and contacted them, again and again. We were told that it would be shipping soon each time, but it came when it came. The motherboard wasn't installed correctly, and the backplate was smashed in. We're not sure what else was incorrectly "assembled", if you can call it that. She opted to just keep it as is after considering all of the time and effort it would take to ship it back in for service it should not have needed.
Not going to buy another pre-built and will just figure it out myself. Feh.
Well good luck on finding a graphics card for a gaming pc. Either spend too much or pray that a good deal will come out or win the Newegg shuffle.
@@reigoemon2229 Or get a FE drop for msrp that lasts a few minutes.. Got my 3070 fe for 499 in germany and it lasted 40m
@@reigoemon2229 even new egg shuffle is a rip off... MSI 3080s for $1100? For a card that was originally $750 and is now maybe $8-900. It's not as bad as ebay, but even new egg is taking advantage of "market conditions" and making sure they get their money.
@Taistelu_pelto if i could guess it possibly wasn't "clipped in" all the way, or maybe it was, and it got pushed out inbetween the back of the case and the motherboard, leaving it flopping around and only held in by the ports. Not a major issue, but not something you want to see on something you paid money for to be done right.
The motherboard? I'd be curious as well, but if i could guess there they didn't use many standoffs, since that takes time and effort.
@@supervillain3213Since Newegg was taken over by that chinese company any shred of integrity left was thrown out the window. Newegg is selling cards at scalper prices on eBay under their own name in Canada
My guess is part of the deal with coolermaster was "you have to bundle our cooler with it"
They could have used Hyper 212s in that case xD
I dont think I have ever heard such a professional "order our product even though we don't have any". You guys make dang good quality stuff
I got this case and all of the fans had an audible click to them. I got them replaced by coolermaster and some of them had a less audible click and some where the same. Nice to hear I'm not the only one experiencing this
Oh hey, that's my case with their branding. Actually got it as the 2020's Best Case Awards honorable mention because the P500A wasn't available at the time.
Connect the keyboard and mouse to the P should be some sort of T-Shirt or something.
The way that fan controller peeled off is why I use velcro for anything that needs to be detached at some point.
I bought one of these recently, they definitely watched this video. The prices are better and you can select a price tier and edit the parts you want to spend money on the parts you want
I'd rather have overkill cooling like this over a load bearing cpu cooler.
"load bearing" what does that even mean
@@spectraleggings watch dell prebuilts videos from GN to learn. this term is so insane you think guys talking crap hahaha. but yeah, watch dell stuff, it's... it's a sight to behold for sure
Just don’t forget to connect mouse and keyboard to the P.
@@NerdlySquared P what?
@@simplysaphi you really just coulda told me :D No srsly I've looked it up, found nothing. It's a made-up term and I'm sure it means something and I know Dell messed up with their prebuilds, I've watched the video as well as the Alienware one. I just couldn't figure this out, enlighten me, please.
I bought the “Best” tier pc from Redux, still waiting for it to come in. I got a R7 5800x, RTX 3070 (paid $789 for it), 850W PSU. Not sure exactly which motherboard I’m getting, same thing with the RAM (I know its 3200mhz I just wish they shared what brand I’d be getting) and PSU. I guess I’ll update this comment whenever I get it.
I ordered mine 2.5 weeks ago. UPS tracking shows it will be here Wed. I9 3080ti, so excited
You should add an FPS per dollar chart. I know, it's not hard to calculate, but still, it would be useful to have it here already. Maybe you could do an FPS per dollar video for all the prebuilt reviews you did so far? Great vid as always!
I think one of the best pre - build's I have seen in the last recent ones, felt the video was a bit nitpicky, I like it.
I love this review series.
It's 1400$ now but they replaced the 10400f with a 12400f and the 1650 with a 3060 which is probably a pretty big improvement, and it looks like they're no longer using a liquid cooler for this one. Maybe you could review the new version again?
I just finished building my list last night on redux and this video was released. What perfect timing
The last build I made was last week with components I had in stock, except from the motherboard and the CPU (a recent i5) I used a Corsair H100x AIO on it, with 6 Noctua Chromax fans. on lowered voltage, system temperature is about 35C° and CPU 22 C°, with load it's about 30C° also a little overkill for that system. But like I said, these were old stock, and now I'm happy, and my best friend also.
Build redux sent me a prebuilt with ram without a heat spreader like it promised in the description and also they gave me a different motherboard that I paid for way back in the begining of the year they actually showed you what parts was put in your PC. So they replaced a motherboard with a cheaper one and didn't warn me or refunded me the difference. I told them about it in a email and they wouldnt do anything. The prebuilt from Dell gave me better ram stick than Build redux which is sad.
Just pay a buddy to build your computer at this point.
@@ClonesDream The ram doesn't even have fucking XMP profile as well I got shitty crucial ram which I paid more to get the 32GB which sucks.
@@kaptain1477 i would've opted to just build it myself or maybe if you're lucky have a friend who knows how to build it, lots of companies really don't care about their customers and are really looking for that profit
@@sloth7d526 I know how to build but we don't have gpus so the only way was buying pre builts I could easily make my own but don't want to buy gpus at scalper prices
@@kaptain1477 oh true true, I can't imagine how annoying it is trying to build a PC during these times with prices so high, it's crazy
Wow an actual review, almost every other review was sponsored.
That's usually because PC reviewing channels get flooded with so many requests to review a PC, from the company or community, that it gets to the point that the only reason you'd review one PC over another is if your getting money to do so (sponsered)
Certain channels do "reviews" that are essentially dressed up ads.
I love how when Steve reviewed that Alienware dumb people in the comments called him biased. He is like the least biased reviewer I have seen, a bit nitpicky but for good reasons.
If it's sponsored - it's not a review.
It's hilarious when people start complaining about "sponsored!!!!11111"
You do know they pay for these things right?
I checked out their site and they will not stop bombarding me with ads since. Glad you made this video, maybe eventually they'll get the hint that I'm not interested?
I recently purchased one of their "best" configurations. I did so because i did not want to pay 1900 or more for a 3080. It was about 1100 for the card, not great but i didn't want to have to search endlessly for a card at or near msrp. I would have prefered to build it all myself, but again didn't wanna wait and hope for a more reasonably-priced card. With shipping and tax i paid $2830 i believe. Intel 10700k, 1tb gen 3 m.2 ssd and 2 tb of hard drive space, 32 gigs of 3200 mghz ram. Honestly im pretty happy with the purchase. Everything was as cleanly assembled as in the pc in this video. No damage at all from shipping, everything was connected and in place when i opened it up to inspect everything. Booted up first try with no issues, only a few drivers needed to be updated. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask. Took about 16 days to ship. 3 days to arrive, and i had honestly expected it to take 6 weeks based on reviews from earlier in the year.
This is the exact boat I’m in .Out of all the pre built companies this is looking like a pretty reasonable option.
How’s it holding up for you? You are the exact situation I am in. Just can’t try and wait out this market anymore
@@TheZjensen is been just fine. But man does my 3080 get hot. I'm probably gonna train up for an open air case and water cooling in the next few months. I just want these components to last.
Honestly.. they should pay you in some form, because you gave them a straight list of what is needed. Any idiot that doesnt see that in manhours, and nonbiased or fearful genuine attention, shouldnt be running the department in charge of sourcing or designing. Its literally laid out for them.
Thanks for all of the buyers now seeing the genuine outcomes.
they're selling as many as they can make, why would they change anything? the cooler is a good place to pad the margins, they're not paying MSRP for a lot of the parts -- the cooler is definitely a place they are not paying MSRP.
It may be a bit overkill on the cooling. However, it makes it easier to upgrade the CPU and GPU later when prices come down. You would not have to change the cooling setup. There is definitely some value to that in my opinion. It is nice to see all standard components, and that it was competently built. Also a good looking system aesthetically. Prices have been going up quite a bit lately, I can't wait for the prices to start stabilizing to see what the new normal is going to be like. Great video as always, thank you!
But looking at that cheapo b560 board? Nah i don't think so. Even if the AIO is for "future proofing" the motherboard itself doesn't look to be able to handle a high end CPU that leverages the AIO.
@@aerosw1ft But you still don't need to buy a new cooler.
Tbh if you living in somewhere that has summer all year long, get a liquid cooler if money allowed. I have a 10700 (non K), and with the stock cooler, under normal 60W load it was at like 90 ish degree celsius, then I switched to cooler master 212 evo (air cooled) and with power limit disabled it still clocked 100 degree C and thermal throttled, with TDP of 120W. Have to reduce the PL1/2 to 100W just to get below 90 degree C.
i waited months for a review, and i gotta say. im definitely ordering from them. ive had the tab open for a while.
A graphics card can be changed when you are building the PC on the site. Since you can change most of the components during the build and the build quality is good, I think this is a viable option considering how hard it is to get graphics cards now days.
I'm pretty excited about being in the video @3:43 however I've been having a lot of issues regarding my PC. First off I don't have the correct parts. I've received horrible customer service. So much so the original employee supposedly handling my support ticket actually doesn't work for them but.
Thanks for your early comment!
@@GamersNexus you guys can review my PC if you want lol. I hat to remove obstructions from every single I/0 port aka the I/0 shield wasn't installed correctly. Had to cut metal to use my PC.
@@SrgtWookieD oof
@@GamersNexus i'm really having a horrible time with these guys. Could you please help? my motherboard is defective im 6 months into trying to get a replacement. they lie non stop i'll send yall the emails and screenshots, these guys are shady. im expected to pay another $200 for a replacement board, also it doesn't even have the parts my order says. please help a pc gamer get back to gaming
I hope GN puts out the pure loop review soon... I'm waiting for that to decide on an AIO
I don't think we've promised a pure loop review anytime recently.
just get an arctic aio, theyre among the best
@@GamersNexus :O I guess I'm going crazy, I thought i heard you mention recently that you were. my bad!
@@GamersNexus wasn't the EK one also good? and, what is a "pure loop", never heard the name before, is that some aliexpress brand like Topow or spark-o-matic? drrp, hit reply to the wrong comment, oh well, lol.
@@Zarcondeegrissom It's a Be Quiet AIO
You know, I agree the money spent on cooling probably could've been spent on a better GPU, but at the same time, at least the capability is there to upgrade to something better without overhauling the cooling solution. I mean, it's at least not malicious.
wow, okay. thank you for the awesome review !!
so basically, find redux build with not questionable specs and you'll have a good prebuilt
And you absolutely have options in customization the parts. Its like steve bought the shittiest version if only to find thing to complain about
The build quality is actually very good. The sticker for the hub, it's lightweight so the tape should hold for an eternity. The IHS, there was enough contact overall and the corner of the IHS isn't the Hotspot either so that's pretty good when you consider it wasn't over applied or under. GTX1650 and price value proposition is disappointing but still It's one of the best pre-built pc I've seen on TH-cam.
Not so impressed myself, 1650 is garbage for the price I expected a lot better. This things so under-specced it would be a huge downgrade from my 3yr old lounge PC. The cheeky gits only put an i5 and a 1650 in here yet they are chargin over a $1000! No way man this things a waste of money plus it won't actually game well, the performance is savage level bad. I am surprised people bigging this up, I would be VERY disappointed to have spent $1300 and got this hunk of crap.
Fierce do a similar one that costs $875 comes with a 1660S and R5. How are they justifying $450 extra when the specs actually LOWER than the Fierce machine? Lol this company is a rip-off they suck!
Disappointing for having a 1650 in a $1250 prebuilt is an understatement...
I love the roasting in all of your videos. Makes me laugh
Might you run the PSU through your testing methodology? It would be interesting to see how more house-branded PSUs are stacking up.
One thing I really don't get is why builders keep putting micro atx sized everything into a mid tower case, instead of something more appropriately sized for the components. The inside of this thing has an insane amount of pointless space. Is it legitimately just that the kind of people buying these things associate a larger case with it being a better computer?
There's a shortage of good MicroATX cases on the market, and mATX boards are cheaper as well as faster to install (fewer screws).
For a physical retailer, I can see customers thinking 'bigger is better', but its a lot harder to estimate the size of a case when shopping online, so I don't think online retailers like ABS, Cyberpower, or Redux are trying to push that misconception.
I'm pretty sure it's just a cost-cutting/margin-maximising thing. They _could_ put an ATX mobo in, but mATX mobos are usually cheaper.
I need to sleep and then I see an upload. I guess I can buy an energy drink in the morning
A healthy sleep schedule feels so good though
@@FleaOnMyWiener A healthy, long sleep + energy drincc is godlike
hoping to see a nzxt bld kit review in this playlist soon. Its an interesting niche between prebuilt and diy
This has probably been asked a million times and I've not seen it, but may I as what you do with these prebuilt systems after you've tested and reviewed them? I appreciate the work you do :)
Hold up…don’t SI’s get their components (including GPU’s) directly from manufacturers and board partners? So why would the 1650 cost them $300+? That’s the scalped price, unless manufacturers are now also price gauging and charging SI’s scalped pricing…If they’re not however that means REDUX just charged u $300+ for a $140-150 GPU.
THIS!
Yesnt, depends on the size, Igors lab had an article about how hardware "brokers" are gouging smaller business.
No, they normally buy from distributors and suppliers. We have no way of knowing which party is gouging.
Smaller SI here, price is accurate. Distributors cost more than list price due to bundling. A lot goes into it but GN has explained it to death at this point. That's all the info i can really give.
Messing around on their site, it recommended me a "Good" system for $1370, but swapped the AIO for an air cooler and 1650 for a 1660. That seems like a much more reasonable configuration, but still not a screaming deal. :/
I hate these GPU prices. It is like a never ending nightmare I can't wake up from.
Opinions on redux mounting the AIO on the top of the case as opposed to the front? I feel like it might be better in way of sound, longevity and marketability (more argb fans visible = more fps)
Each time that I see the parts of a pre built pc, I feel more relieved that I am picking the parts for my own PCs the last 10 years
Sticky tape is a fine way to secure something, ask Linus, steve was just looking for bad build quality things to talk about haha. As cooler master supplies all of the "expensive" hardware complained about.
Looks competently built and not designed to screw the customer. So that is better than some of the others.
Also likely to be upgradable in future, with a good case, and large PSU (If that PSU is good).
Loose the water cooling and add a better GPU and it would make sense.
It would be interesting to see how their higher end PCs fare given the overkill cooling and case selection here.
Funny that the 3D model @22:06 has the radiator mount correct, with the cables down instead of up, like you guys received haha
Almost went with redux for my first ever pre built. I typically build my own. Went to micro center got a power spec. Never looked back
steve wtf it's midnight
That's just, like, your opinion, man.
timezones aren't real
The big Stevebowski
imagine a world with timezones :0
Feels like it's following in Origin's footsteps of offering premium services at a massive cost to performance.
Man this is stuff I wanted to do back in the late 90s. Tones of magazines had random pre-built deals, some with great graphics and some with Comic Sans in the ads. I always wished I had money to throw away and buy some of them and take a peak inside.
Have you considered updating the prices on the previous prebuilts you tested? The ABS Challenger is $1200 these days, and I'm sure other prices have changed as well. Might make for a better comparison
"It's not garbage."
High praise!
7:54 I ordered the highest tier redux PC and got unbranded green DIMMs. Actual components can vary greatly between two redux systems, especially for the less noteworthy parts like RAM and motherboard
huh, I ordered the highest tier as well and have viper's so idk man.
In October of 2020, my son asked for a PC for xmas. I bought the parts piece by piece as I could afford them and built it gradually. I'm so happy I did it this way than buying a pre built that may or may not be good machine.
I bought the highest end of the PC's from these guys and got a 3080ti among other things. They even had it finished and shipped and even delivered about a week ahead of schedule. I do know how to build my own PC's but wanted to try an alternative this time around. They did a really good job on mine and it's flawless from what I could tell after inspecting it.
hows the pc doing now
@@ziing5963 Still running amazingly and working like a charm, I have yet to have any issues. A little tedious to dust the inside but that's the only minor issue I've had.