If you want to drift in an automatic, dont put the car in sport+. Put the car in sport, hold TC button till DSC OFF, put the car in manual and shift down once so it ll be locked in gear (second gear is the best in my opinion).
@@ManeMtb yes, if you want to drift DSC off is the best, sport+ is for when you want to aggressively accelerate without the dsc cutting the power but it doesnt let you slide
Ah bro...brilliant video. Don't ever apologyze to anyone, do your thing. There will always be some haters, but you do things for people, who appreciate you and your content. I've got worn tyres on my Beemer, so looking for some empty car park with no cameras, to try and have some fun. Let's have some fun, while it's still "legal"!
While it's true that these have an open diff, BMWs do still try to get some of the effect of an LSD even in their open diff cars by automatically applying the brakes on the wheel that spins up (even with DSC off). It's not perfect and if you took it to a drift event you'd burn through brake pads but it allows you to hoon around much better than an "unassisted" open diff. It's been a thing on the 3 series since the LCI E90 days as far as I'm aware
@@jimdcars Automatic is smoother, but the manual has better acceleration because gearing is better suited for the amount of power. Honestly it's mostly driver's preference.
@@imnota I doubt manual has better acceleration, the 8 speed is always in the power band due to the amount of gears it has. And no matter how quick you shift the automatic will beat you.
@@piovo1 Look at the official numbers from BMW. Not trying to have a debate, it's facts. 2012 320d auto : 0-100=7.6s 0-1000m=28.7s 2012 320d 6 speed manual : 0-100=7.5s 0-1000m=27.7s Not a big difference, but I never said it was, I literally said it came down to driver's preference, because the difference is not big enough to justify getting one or the other based on how fast it is. And honestly the manual numbers probably are even better irl as there's no way the guy at the factory testing the car bangs gears like most bmw drivers actually do 😂 The automatic versions purposefully have longer gearing to make it smoother and feel more luxurious, however with only 180hp longer gearing affects performance. And I can tell you from experience the manual feels like it pulls much harder than the auto, not only because it IS slightly faster, but also because the shifting makes it seem faster, whereas a smooth slushbox numbs the acceleration sensation. But let's be honest, yes the automatic shifts faster than a manual and if it had similar gearing to the manual it would be faster, however that ain't the case.
@@jimdcars it’s well worth doing. I’ve had a performance map put on mine which puts it up to 230bhp. It’s like a different car. It’s a lot less hesitant while waiting for the turbo to spool up and the throttle response is excellent. Still returns about 46mpg average on mixed road runs. I had an E90 330D in the past. It doesn’t match the torque output of the 6 cylinder engine but at £400-£500 for a decent map it really doesn’t put you a million miles away.
@@andybarron5840 ah that’s interesting, how long have you had the map on? Any issues? Would be interesting to see if you get any long term issues as that’s what id be worried about
Nice one. I learnt to drive in the era of mk1 Escorts and Capris, so drifting was just natural then. Sideways round Roundabouts, no officer, wasn’t me! Lol. Don’t drive my F31 like that now though.
Hi nice vid! Everytime i press the dsc button whilst beeing in Sport plus, my 320D goes into „Traction Mode“. I got a facelift model, does that explain Why my dsc is never fully off?
Thanks dude! You have to hold the traction button for a few seconds and it will say DSC off, where as in sport + you have ‘dynamic traction’ which is basically still on if you ask me. I have found as well that whatever mode you’re in, the throttle response and gearing goes back to comfort mode when you turn the DSC completely off (I think that’s what you mean when you say it goes to ‘traction mode’?) which is annoying, I’m sure you can code it otherwise but I haven’t don’t that. Hope this helps 🙂
I am thinking about buying 320d for daily driving and in free time for drifting on country side roads, drifting looks so fun to me so i want to do it as a hobby. But i am not sure how much will affect health of a car. Would you help me make a decision by sharing your thoughts?
I was doing some drift with my F31 328i, I also put traction control off, but something annoying is that it can't be in sport mode so I also put it in manual to have some more revs without needing to have the throttle open first. Anyone got more tips on settings?
I just put it in Sport Plus, transmission into Sport (if you have restyle F-series you could just move it to the left when it's in Drive, it would allow you to put it in Manual or Sport Automatic) and then DSC off. Works like a charm when it snows, but I am still to learn how to do that on a less slippery road. Also, I have the same size of tires since my car is AWD by default (I just use xDelete)
Impressive to see how well it works without an lsd (I have a f31 330d and it’s all too easy to get things going if you’re very violent with it but if your more subtle in approach ie existing a roundabout it can sometimes find itself producing one wheel fire ). Modes on the car are an interesting one as I like the snappiness of the clutches when the cars in sport+ and the throttle sensitivity but I can’t keep the steering in comfort (like you can with an m car....all separate options) and as you state the TC isn’t fully off.....so you have to just turn off in with traction button but forget the driver modes which is a shame. Lastly, mine is also the automatic, do you ever feel that the car also does its own thing regards slipping the clutch at times (if I could of had a manual I would), just hate the idea of the car trying to interfere with my driving. Other than that I love my car but I’m keen to see how your experience matches up? Thanks Will
It is annoying that you can’t have sport + throttle response with traction completely off. I think the adaptive steering is an option (which I don’t have) for non M cars. If it’s dry I find you get the one wheel spinning but on a wet/loose surface it’ll slide quite nicely if you get the power on from almost a stand still, but if you’re say half way round a counter and slam the power on it’ll suddenly lose grip and you’ll have to be quick to catch it! As for the clutch I find it’s can sometime be more responsive at times but mostly it’s fine for me
@@jimdcars hey guys i have a question. In an automatic f30, if you select manual mode and sport+, does it keep you in the same gear all the time or once you go at rev limit it automatically throws you in the next gear?
Fly wheel will be rayt, had my e90 8 years now had dmf done once between 61k/140k (went at 110k)!whilst mapped the whole time, I’ve had plenty of fun in private car parks ! They will run out sometime! Enjoy in the meantime
If you want to drift in an automatic, dont put the car in sport+. Put the car in sport, hold TC button till DSC OFF, put the car in manual and shift down once so it ll be locked in gear (second gear is the best in my opinion).
But if you are in Sport, as soon as you DSC OFF doesn't it "exit" sport mode and goes back to Comfort - at least gas peddal feels like that. 🤔
@@ManeMtb true
edit: DSC off is a different drive mode itself
@@adamVLA I see, thanks. But so, its better just DSC off than going Sport+, since again in Sport+ there is some stabilisation?
@@ManeMtb yes, if you want to drift DSC off is the best, sport+ is for when you want to aggressively accelerate without the dsc cutting the power but it doesnt let you slide
Enjoy yourself mate there is nothing to worry about have fun👍
Ah bro...brilliant video. Don't ever apologyze to anyone, do your thing. There will always be some haters, but you do things for people, who appreciate you and your content. I've got worn tyres on my Beemer, so looking for some empty car park with no cameras, to try and have some fun. Let's have some fun, while it's still "legal"!
You put so much effort in this video, love it👍🏼
Thank you!
I do cheeky drifts sometimes in the wet
Drifted my 335xd a few times it's terrifying how quickly you gain speed whilst driving in an xdrive
Hey man just got a 335i f31 and can’t believe how good of a job you did getting it sideways with the open diff
While it's true that these have an open diff, BMWs do still try to get some of the effect of an LSD even in their open diff cars by automatically applying the brakes on the wheel that spins up (even with DSC off). It's not perfect and if you took it to a drift event you'd burn through brake pads but it allows you to hoon around much better than an "unassisted" open diff. It's been a thing on the 3 series since the LCI E90 days as far as I'm aware
This was awesome for a first time
Ha ha brilliant! - looks like you'd great fun out there :)
I have the 320d 190 bhp manual gearbox. Great car
How is the manual? I’ve always heard it’s not great. Have you driven the auto to compare? Thanks!
@@jimdcars automatic is more smooth to drive.
@@jimdcars Automatic is smoother, but the manual has better acceleration because gearing is better suited for the amount of power.
Honestly it's mostly driver's preference.
@@imnota I doubt manual has better acceleration, the 8 speed is always in the power band due to the amount of gears it has. And no matter how quick you shift the automatic will beat you.
@@piovo1
Look at the official numbers from BMW.
Not trying to have a debate, it's facts.
2012 320d auto :
0-100=7.6s
0-1000m=28.7s
2012 320d 6 speed manual :
0-100=7.5s
0-1000m=27.7s
Not a big difference, but I never said it was, I literally said it came down to driver's preference, because the difference is not big enough to justify getting one or the other based on how fast it is.
And honestly the manual numbers probably are even better irl as there's no way the guy at the factory testing the car bangs gears like most bmw drivers actually do 😂
The automatic versions purposefully have longer gearing to make it smoother and feel more luxurious, however with only 180hp longer gearing affects performance.
And I can tell you from experience the manual feels like it pulls much harder than the auto, not only because it IS slightly faster, but also because the shifting makes it seem faster, whereas a smooth slushbox numbs the acceleration sensation.
But let's be honest, yes the automatic shifts faster than a manual and if it had similar gearing to the manual it would be faster, however that ain't the case.
This is dope 👍👍👍 keep it on, subscribed
Thanks dude!
I've got the exact same car same colour the lot. (Mines manual) But I've put some 20 inch m666 competition wheels on! Looks the nuts!
I see you are a man of good taste
@@jimdcars I've had many cars and always gone back to a bmw! I fancy a remap next!
@@paulholla I’ve thought of a remap, but I’d rather save my money and get the 6 cylinder 330 and tune that!
@@jimdcars it’s well worth doing. I’ve had a performance map put on mine which puts it up to 230bhp. It’s like a different car. It’s a lot less hesitant while waiting for the turbo to spool up and the throttle response is excellent. Still returns about 46mpg average on mixed road runs.
I had an E90 330D in the past. It doesn’t match the torque output of the 6 cylinder engine but at £400-£500 for a decent map it really doesn’t put you a million miles away.
@@andybarron5840 ah that’s interesting, how long have you had the map on? Any issues? Would be interesting to see if you get any long term issues as that’s what id be worried about
Nice one. I learnt to drive in the era of mk1 Escorts and Capris, so drifting was just natural then. Sideways round Roundabouts, no officer, wasn’t me! Lol. Don’t drive my F31 like that now though.
Hi nice vid! Everytime i press the dsc button whilst beeing in Sport plus, my 320D goes into „Traction Mode“. I got a facelift model, does that explain Why my dsc is never fully off?
Thanks dude! You have to hold the traction button for a few seconds and it will say DSC off, where as in sport + you have ‘dynamic traction’ which is basically still on if you ask me. I have found as well that whatever mode you’re in, the throttle response and gearing goes back to comfort mode when you turn the DSC completely off (I think that’s what you mean when you say it goes to ‘traction mode’?) which is annoying, I’m sure you can code it otherwise but I haven’t don’t that. Hope this helps 🙂
I am thinking about buying 320d for daily driving and in free time for drifting on country side roads, drifting looks so fun to me so i want to do it as a hobby. But i am not sure how much will affect health of a car. Would you help me make a decision by sharing your thoughts?
Awesome daily driver but probably wouldn't reccomend skidding it about constantly, only when the time is right
I was doing some drift with my F31 328i, I also put traction control off, but something annoying is that it can't be in sport mode so I also put it in manual to have some more revs without needing to have the throttle open first. Anyone got more tips on settings?
I just put it in Sport Plus, transmission into Sport (if you have restyle F-series you could just move it to the left when it's in Drive, it would allow you to put it in Manual or Sport Automatic) and then DSC off. Works like a charm when it snows, but I am still to learn how to do that on a less slippery road. Also, I have the same size of tires since my car is AWD by default (I just use xDelete)
Timing chain ok after this!!
Just gone over 110k miles and still perfect
@@jimdcars happy for you are you thinking about changing it at all
@@maherbboy4949 still got 6 months on my warranty, when that ends if I have the money I might.
Am Sure the guy appreciated you pebble dashing his van 😅
It’s a Ford transit, I’m sure he won’t mind
This van can survive nuclear bomb
When dsc is off my car comes on comfort automatically from sports. Why is it so
@@fatimsaadan mine does the same, I don’t know why but it’s annoying!
Impressive to see how well it works without an lsd (I have a f31 330d and it’s all too easy to get things going if you’re very violent with it but if your more subtle in approach ie existing a roundabout it can sometimes find itself producing one wheel fire ).
Modes on the car are an interesting one as I like the snappiness of the clutches when the cars in sport+ and the throttle sensitivity but I can’t keep the steering in comfort (like you can with an m car....all separate options) and as you state the TC isn’t fully off.....so you have to just turn off in with traction button but forget the driver modes which is a shame.
Lastly, mine is also the automatic, do you ever feel that the car also does its own thing regards slipping the clutch at times (if I could of had a manual I would), just hate the idea of the car trying to interfere with my driving.
Other than that I love my car but I’m keen to see how your experience matches up? Thanks Will
It is annoying that you can’t have sport + throttle response with traction completely off. I think the adaptive steering is an option (which I don’t have) for non M cars. If it’s dry I find you get the one wheel spinning but on a wet/loose surface it’ll slide quite nicely if you get the power on from almost a stand still, but if you’re say half way round a counter and slam the power on it’ll suddenly lose grip and you’ll have to be quick to catch it! As for the clutch I find it’s can sometime be more responsive at times but mostly it’s fine for me
@@jimdcars hey guys i have a question. In an automatic f30, if you select manual mode and sport+, does it keep you in the same gear all the time or once you go at rev limit it automatically throws you in the next gear?
@@billp1180 if you put it in manual mode by pushing the gear selector to the left it will hold the gears, watch my review video to see more!
Tried it on a 1 serious coupe didn't work
4:35 - 🤣🤒🤕
Siiick
Very cool
Yes yes yes....
Buy an E90 and rag that. About a grand now for a good one.
I was thinking that as they are cheap, but I just love the e46
lol thats mind-boggling. you can’t get a good pre-lci e90 below €5k in Serbia
Bye bye dual mass flywheel
Fuck the fly wheel!lol can be replaced!
@@paulholla at £700 yes it can.
Fly wheel will be rayt, had my e90 8 years now had dmf done once between 61k/140k (went at 110k)!whilst mapped the whole time, I’ve had plenty of fun in private car parks ! They will run out sometime! Enjoy in the meantime
Had the same problem after drifting f31 320d lol 😄
Make more content when you get your drift car !
does it have a LSD???
Nope lol
DSC off = eLSD on
Lamus😂
Comprati un alto tipo di auto.blasfemo...è una turing🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣🙈
Siiick
And good point on the differential bit. People need to know!