Ed Sheeran and John Mayer Just WRECKED Two Watch Brands.
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Hodinkee just released a Talking Watches with Ed Sheeran...hosted by John Mayer. This is the Super Bowl for watch nerds. Anyways, in short, the film was fantastic and both of these guys seem like absolute pleasures. However -- Christian and I dug in a little deeper into the video and found some questions that we figured were worth talking about.
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*EDIT: We made a mistake with the Toy Watch "would you sell all of your watches" discussion. It was a piece Ed Sheeran purchased with a friend who passed away -- of course that changes the answer. Apologies to Mr. Sheeran for the oversight!*
Also, if it wasn't clear, we love the film and just wanted to talk about it on the channel.
Yes but come on.... memories or not, a plastic watch for all those historic pieces....I don't believe that... its just a watch after all. What's real is the memories of his friend not some watch
@@Valera_Scotlandyeah, but this is someone who can repurchase all of those watches again if he does sell them. Not the Toy watch though.
@@alectang1614 yeah, i agree. It seems like he already owns a few piece uniques, so what would stop him from just those pieces all over again.
@@alectang1614 yeah I do get it... Still think the idea is silly
How do you make a video talking about a video you either didn’t watch ⌚️ or didn’t pay attention to? He brought up the friend and buying watches together multiple times. “You always assume the videos are BS” and then both of you miss such a big point of the video. I’m no TH-cam hater but don’t put out a BS video when you haven’t done you’re homework.
-Casio G shock owner
Ed Sheeran lives near me in Suffolk England, and supports the local football team Ipswich. A couple of weeks ago he was working behind the bar at Ipswich's ground, serving people drinks and food.
Wow I’m glad to see he’s still a humble guy connected to his roots. Much respect to him.
Christian came dressed like a thin mint. 😂😂
But hey, screw watches, you can never go wrong with a Girl Scout cookie. 👍
😂😂😂😂
I hope Christian reads this and pins this up top 🤣
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I have to assume that John Mayer is at least partially motivated to do these TW’s because he’s now an investor in Hodinkee and he’s trying to help its value grow. I thought it was a bit disingenrous of Ben Clymer to say no one gets paid to do these. I guess not directly, but surely Mayer and others have a financial incentive to do them.
Of course. John is driving up the values of the watches he owns. He's made a fortune on his watch collection appreciating in value. Plus he makes money on watches he helped design that his fans can afford. Ed is following in his footsteps.
They were also promoting the yellow limited edition Hodinkee x Ed Sheeran gshock. The watch comes with a message from JM in the packaging.
I'm a huge JM fan, but I think he just gets a big kick (ego boost) from playing this role in the watch community.
@@willudallmusic And his already insanely massive ego is frankly unbearable. He absolutely does this stuff with a big portion of motivation being his ego feeding.
I do not care about that, but I do want regular watch content back (Jack Foster type stuff). I uninstalled the Hodinkee app after all the stupid articles on fashion. It is like they turned into a different publication.
I like Ben Clymer. I have met the man. Cool guy. I just have no idea what they are thinking now. Fratello is putting out more and better content. Did I keep went from the premier website for watches to this teen beat co tent. I just cannot deal with them anymore. That and they trashed the Seiko Astron (I have one-huge, expensive and glorious Astron).
You clearly didn’t watch the video properly. This is full of dumb takes.
The reason he wouldn’t get rid of the toy watch, and trade it for his whole collection, is it’s sentimental to his best friend Jamal who died. He also clearly states the value of the watches don’t interest him and actually become a burden to wearing them.
Yes he has piece uniques for Patek and AP. The white ceramic AP is a piece unique. It’s not “modded”. The rotor has the symbols from his albums on it, done in factory.
Yes he’s has some Bamford mods of other watches.
glad to see someone else pointed this out. Still have respect for the guys, but if they're gonna make a video on content that is freely accessible they should each watch it and be as correct as possible
I think they may have an eye on the commercial aspect, but for both of these guys watches are pure passion. They are addicted 😃
Funniest bit was Ed using his first Patek box as a rolling box.
Great discussion as always. Some interesting POVs from you both. Thanks guys!
🎸Amazing collaboration, Ed and John really rocked it!🔥
Key point he made on the Toy watch, if I am not mistaken, is that it was a gift from someone who passed away.
Latest hodinkee video explains that none of the guests are paid, pure passion - but of course it's an advert of personal brand to a degree, but what isn't! Loved it
I don't think they could afford to pay them lol. Very convenient
Oh man! That whole Talking Watches made me fall in love with Ed Sheeran!!! I loved his philosophy and he’s really just having fun with it! I love it!
If I had a silly amount of money like him, I’d be quite similar! (I mean, no Hublot’s… hahaha BUT DO YOUR THING ED!)
Best female watch TH-cam ever!!!! Big fan
I think you guys are overthinking it here. First of all, the question on why John Mayer did this. Mayer owns a pretty large stake in Hodinkee as he was one of the latest round investors in 2020, along with Tom Brady and others; so he being the MC is not weird at all. Sheeran is his buddy and is probably boosting Mayer's company by being there as a favor. And yes they probably get perks for mentioning or favoring one brand over the other....they may get access to some sick pieces (maybe at a discount?) that the average person could never ever even see in person. I don't think they need the $10,000 because they mention the name.
Loved the original interview and your breakdown was awesome.
Nice insight from an amazing episode of Talking Watches, love your perspective on it
Big fan gentlemen. Your introductory music reminds me of a crisp Fall day. Love it! Great episode!
I “watched” John and Ed’s watch show n tell…and as a professional musician myself.. I can relate to the early days of acquiring my watches..what it came to then and what it comes down to now is money…and Ed and John have plenty of it. It would be nice to decide which Royal Oak to add to the collection,..but not all of us are on that big a stage…. My nicest watch is an Omega Speedmaster Racing panda.
Had a song used in an episode of a TV show and bought a Speedy 57 off the back of it :)
John Mayer is also a big shareholder at Hodinkee
I wish Hodinkee would turn over all content to John Mayer.
Christian channeling his inner Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle today
I like how you both are adapting each others mannerisms from the touching of the nose every 5 words 😂 😂😂 perfect syncopation
Ed & his friend Jamal Edward came up together, jamal started SBTV music channel that gave Ed and so many other UK artists a platform. Jamal died a few years back.
This version of Theodore Cleaver and Eddie Haskell was particularly heartwarming.
Great show ❤
The Value of the talk for JM is that he’s a shareholder/ investor in Hodinkee. Ed did a GShock / Hodinkee Collab so there’s that. I preferred Johns Collection over Ed’s but I did like that he actually wears / wore a Hublot and wasn’t ashamed of it
I enjoyed the John & Ed interview, but yet another video of watches that 99% of us can never afford. You two are spot on. Is that a Unimatc on Christians wrist? Now that’s cool!
I think you mean 99.999%
@@bwheeler03yes absolutely. 99.99999999999999%
I can afford the G-Shock and the Toy watch.
This episode was quite good
Not going to "slam dunk on these guys" ...Not sure how you would ever do that in any conversation, literally about anything 🤣
Oh! One more thing..Just watched Nico’s take on the John and Ed show..he brings up some really good points about custom PP. and he is funny as hell…
We need you two on talking watches, guys
Ed won this episode with humility. John clearly hasn’t branched out in watches. Maybe staged, but when one needs to mention Roger Smith (without George Daniels) in the same sentence, someone seems out of touch or “Out of Time.” Michael Stype would understand.
Love the Unimatic on Christian’s wrist, stunning watch
Ed is just doing what he does best and that's sharing.And John has forgotten more about watches than you know.
yeh i'm only a few minutes in and i don't like the start of this. neither of them need it for their brand.
You mean stealing , since he literally stole a majority of his music literal fact . nobody can deny it, its been proven .
@@bigbodykarate6403Being influenced isn't stealing...
He’s one of the best guitarists of his generation
These are guys with money and White people problems. Let them be. They’ve earned it and have a chance to let us observe their world.
LOL at the end
Please dont make us wait a week for the 2nd part
Luxury isn't the product itself. It's having what others covet. Rolex masters this knowledge.
Interesting what you guys mentioned about the PR benefits to the guest for doing the talk. I’m of a slightly older generation so John Mayer was on the radio when I was in college but definitely not Ed Sheeran. Never gave any of his albums a listen but this definitely put him on my radar now. Made me respect the guy even though I’ve never been huge fan of his music. Oh, and , that wasnt a dig on his music, I just wasnt exposed to them. I dont even know which songs Taylor Swift sings, lol.
Hodinkee has had some financial trouble including significant layoffs lately. I know a lot of people mentioned that John is a high-profile investor in Hodinkee, but even if Sheeran isn't paid to be on Talking Watches, he's definitely getting paid for the G Shocks, as does Hodinkee (the JM watches are all co-branded with Hodinkee, so I imagine this will be too). John even said something about how he was facilitating the collab to try to get a bit more shine on it. Overall, it was a wildly entertaining infomercial.
I think these two make so much money by selling music, anything they make from this show will be chump change and negligible
agreed, this is at best a side project, that they are doing for fun@@abhaig
I bought that razor in blue it sucks the reason you WANT it to wiggle and move is because your body isn’t flat. Great video guys Archie is in NYC for watchtime NY
Great ball cap, Michael! Link, please! 🙏🏻
Which watches are you both wearing?
I had lunch with Christian a few years back. Can confirm he’s just like this in real life.
lmao I love him but he's mad pretentious
Definitely overthinking this 😵💫
Christian looking like Shrek here
Unpopular opinion: Hublot has more personality than Rolex, and it's for people who enjoys their watch, not ones looking for "investments".
Well.. that... makes sense?!?!
I'm not seeing people buying hublot for bargain rights or as investments.
And Hublot at least realises new watchs.
I enjoy watching you guys waaaay more than that Hodinkee thing...
@Christian and Michael-there are a group of few that think the swiss are up their butt-here is what I have learnt over time-they have a code of not repeating designs for the most part, some (watch brands) evolve more than others. However, they always add value for their consumers. Here is a subtle example-Old and new pelagos, all 3 generations of the heritage black bay, subtle but every owner of each iteration has something to brag about. How about prior generation Calatravas vs the new ones, each owner is a winner. This is why I respect the swiss and their code for watch making, they respect their consumers and keep an archive. History is constantly built.
Nice UC4 Christian!
I believe John is a shareholder of Hodinkee. could be wrong though.
John Mayer is LITERALLY a shareholder of Hodinkee, no guess work around what is he getting out of helping his company out
Lol is that girard john was ditching i was shocked as well 😂😂
Overthinking this. They just both love watches. What's cooler than to sit in a room and nerd out over some incredible pieces. If you make everything about branding, money and promotion, the soul just leaves the body, eventually. I'm sure their managers see it differently but those two just make music and talk watches.
Nah. There are no accidents
When you are a person with a reach THAT immense, there are no accidents and certainly no left opportunities. As Ed Sheeran you know your marketing value damn well and do you think he pays AP for their watches and then goes on to advert them for free on a watch show? Never. Those kind of deals are worth hundrets of thousands if not more.
@@Arseizationno. hundreds of thousands for a silent sponsorship is absurd
They both have a descent amount of cash, they don't strike me as needing advert cash benefits from youtube or a few extra watch sales
Question 1: John Mayer is a Hodinkee investor and Ed has a new Gshock collab
Just paused the vid so I can pop off to buy a toy watch 😂👍
Michael, what's the sweater?
😂😂 I dare you to count how many times each of them touch or rub their nose - all videos it’s crazy … definitely not normal
I watched this last week and enjoyed it. Thought they needed JM to be the permanent host. I also really appreciated ES really personal answers as well as several of his more "a-typical" selections.
Mayor is too full of himself to be a host
Felt like everytime Ed wanted to say something Mayor talked all over the top
as much as I like John, this was very true, he interjected too much @@DanielGrovesBristol
Absolutely not, Mayer is way way too full of himself and talked over Ed too much.
I’ve wanted to watch that. ..but I’ve been putting it off. …hm… but I did watch this lol ❤️
Isn’t Mayer an investor in Hodinkee?
They really did Girard Perregaux dirty with those airport watches comments... ouch
I blame that Apple watch for the point Michael brought up near the beginning when he says "everyone" is wearing a Royal Oak. I believe that Apple helped popularized the notion of wearing a watch at all in recent times. So it follows that watches are viewed as a uniform fashion accessory, rather than a chance to make a unique statement. And if you got the money, why get a dumb, cheap Apple watch when you can acquire something most people simply can't afford? The Royal Oak is the new, upscale Apple watch for rich folks who don't care about watches. Fight me.
The AP’s, specifically Royal Oak, is a gaudy “look at me” watch that everyone seems to have. I just don’t get it.
Pretty sure Mayer was wearing one of his Tourbillons so it was a pretty special Royal Oak.
Michael kinda looks like Peter Parker with the cap on
Is Christian rocking a Unimatic on his wrist?? If so, props.
His white AP is not modded? It’s a custom one off from AP.
If they are being paid to wear Royal Oaks by AP then that would make the whole spontaneous 'let's both buy a Spiderman AP' moment at the end a complete joke.
Rolex really is a starter brand tho. Maybe not because of the price (depends), but because of the accessibility of the designs and the brand (NOT availability XD).
Which brands? I heard JM dissing the GP as an airport watch. What was the other?
The fact that Christian can't imagine that someone might keep a cheap watch that has sentimental value over one that costs 1000s tells you all you need to know about him.
huh?
1000s? The comparison was the one $50 watch vs. an entire collection worth millions.
I like him
It was a figure of speech for a scenario that would never happen. If it happened in real life. Obviously he would never keep that watch over the collection..
@@jshintoth he probably would considering he can just buy the other ones again
hi Michael, hi Christian! hey just wondering.. why are you dressed like a ninja turtle? Love your content guys, greetings from Italy
Christian's outfit would match perfectly with the Swatch Fifty Fathoms Indian Ocean.
He's a ninja turtle, and Michael looks like the wayward kid who wanders the sewers...for some reason. I smell a reboot!
I have a toy watch. It is a piece of junk, but it makes me smile.
It is a Sub homage, and while I don't like Sub's having a junk plastic copy of the style amuses me.
christian is a ned flanders prequel
Have you seen the followup panel with Clymer?
It was awful
You guys seem like you're probably cool IRL. Non-D-bags. 😄
It is hilarious that 2 guys with 5 day face growth, advertise for razors :-)
Great video, I agree with the dialogue about why are these celebrities keep wearing the same watch. AP make really dope watches, but why would you want to be like the next man in that world. Curious if they really are into watches or just like a rare expensive piece.
I feel Tyler the Creator is a good example of having unique taste and not following trends.
so true, tyler is a perfect example for doing your own unique stuff in music and his taste of watches. especially with the cartier watches including the crash and the small LV Monterey watch designed by gae aulenti with a ceramic case build by iwc.
I would love to see more people follow suit in that direction.
Is Christian wearing a Unimatic watch?
What tiktok collab are they talking about?
So this is talking watches about people
About talking watches. We need a talking watches review of thisn
Michael needs to be on talking watches
"This is my G-Shock and recently I found out that you can have the back light set to auto..." then I stare at Ben Clymer for 10 minutes in silence and mimic his movements
My new grail watch is the spider man AP.
Every "celebrity", bloggers, instagramers etc are wearing royal oak. It makes me think they are all given the watch to promote the brand. It's a great watch but I'd choose Santos galbee over RO any day
When he said he “married a girl from his high school and lived a town over”or something like that I internally said “huh that’s actually amazing” and knowing how British towns are it’s really like a farm town in the states. Growing up my long term gf then always listened to him so I know like fucking all the old stuff🤣 glad he’s just a guy being a dude that’s also a bro. I’m also convicted woman exclusively dictate music trends sooo
Rolex-Patek-AP are investment brands and the only ones celebrities want
Sentimental value > monetary value every single time. To say it’s silly is not empathetic at all. He has a memory buying that watch with his late friend that stays with him forever. Materialistic things can come and go.
I don't get it, what two watch brands got "WRECKED"? I feel like the title is super click-baity
Great guys, informative, fun, knowledgeable minus the mustache 😂
Good to see that neck been shaved now.
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The question on would you give up all your collection for this one cheap watch has to be contextualized; I wouldn’t do it; but I believe Sheeran will because he doesn’t care about the money because he doesn’t need to; now if he’s poor and destitute the answer might be different; but it doesn’t in any way detract from the honesty of his response in the current context
I assume Harrison is wearing a hat because he regrets his haircut?
On the point of brands changing being a win win. A seiko 5 that was 50$ in 2015 is now 100 new and to someone that doesn’t know it’s a seiko so it’s a decent watch for decent money. That’s on the lowest end of the spectrum imagine that but with “uhhuge” prices. So ya a brand changing normally is a win win. Unless ur the mass majority of brands around the quartz crisis. Thank you old seiko still top notch 🤣
THINK OF ALL THE COOL PHOTOS YOU CAN TAKE WHEN YOU HAVE 2 MILLION DOLLARS
Why is homie on the right dressed up like a ninja turtle?
Christian’s style sense is top notch you have to hand it to him
I hate to say it but the new G-Shock that Ed Sheeran released looks like a ripe banana.
Personally I felt really off watching it.
It felt like a hail-mary to try and get people talking about Hodinkee now that it's in a tough spot. The pushing of the Shock really cemented this feeling for me. It felt like someone said, "what could we possibly do to get the most views as possible and how can we use this to make as much money as possible? - push an affordable watch"
For background, the ES's Toy Watch, is important to Ed because it is a momento from the early days with his friend Jamal Edwards MBE.
Jamal is a legend in the UK music scene because he helped drive attention to artists that were largely ignored by mainstream media but went on to dominate the charts. He was one of the first people to really see potential in TH-cam and what showcasing talent with almost no budget could do on the platform. Many believe Ed's performance on Jamal's channel is the pivotal point where his career really started.
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Ben Clymer said he has never paid anyone to come on Talking Watches in the cash sense
He also once said he would never do sponsored reviews for watch brands at the time when Hodinkee was independent and unbiased and a lot less commercial.
I'm just quoting what he said in the little directors cut follow up episode Hodinkee did a few days ago@@oysterman962