Story 2: Attempting to sabotage people's jobs is one of the worst things you can do. Like, Mary really tried to ruin OP's last days, taking away access, and even throwing tantrums because OP found a better opportunity and never told her about it (why would that even matter?) The company is better off without Mary anyway, her response being to destroy property shows that she is VERY unfit for her role
What’s so funny is that Mary honestly thought she could get away with it and not get called out. Like, she had to have realized that it would have shown that she took OP’s access away, not once, but twice, and that she diverted OP’s emails. How did she think that was going to go down? That no one would double check? Lady was full on bonkers.
Very likely she was actually doing the embezzlement, and threw the first person under the bus to cover up, and now was trying the same in order to blame OP for the stuff she was doing still, so as to cover her tracks and still carry on to do more. Firing her was hard, but they would need to do a lot of work to first find out what the karen stole, and then try to claim it back from her as well. But they would not likely get much back, as she likely spent it all already, and has nothing much to show for it either.
I came across a similar story where the OP later found out that their boss was also looking for the same position OP was going for and the boss was trying to sabotage OP's chances of hiring. Unfortunately for the boss, OP actually knew the person that was hiring and had effectively told OP that no one else but them is going to get the job. It ended up with the boss getting fired from the old job and practically chased out of town because the "event" became a widely known incident and nobody else would hire them. Alternatively, in another story, OP found out that their boss was essentially dumping all of their work on OP and therefore when OP was changing jobs, the boss realised that they would get caught slacking and wanted to sabotage OP's chances of getting hired in the new place so they be forced to stay where they are. I suspect that Mary was also trying to apply for the same job that OP was trying or was an incompetent boss that was using OP for a free ride.
Mary assumed, (wrongfully) that she had the power to ruin OP's chance at getting another job when her other ideas backfired. Since she was fired, she won't be able to get another job or try to ruin the jobs of other people ever again.
I kind of feel for the owner in the first story. Yes, he clearly overestimated his ability to lift the mirrors but it sucks to get older and have your body let you down. Especially when the mind feels so much younger and it seems like it was only yesterday you were 40. I'm glad nobody got hurt.
agreed. if he started yelling at op etc right aftherward we would efneitly not feel bad for the owner, but the owner sounds like he is not the worst boss, but just like you mentioned overestimated his own ability there. atleast the only thing that did get damaged was some mirrors, it could defenitly have gone worse there.
Those are the best owners I've known. They might not be as good as the people they pay to do the work but they know enough. How does an owner know an employees worth without doing the work themselves? That's why they pay other people to worry about that once they get big enough but thats the point where owners become disconnected from their employees. As an example from my experience, I worked for a family business that went from a father running it to his daughter. We were short a hand in the machine shop(machinist) and the daughter suggested using someone from assembly to do machinist work. She acted like it was no big deal, anyone could do the work... The father would've never done that because he knew the difference between the work for those two jobs and what it took to do the work. Someone from assembly had no training for machinist work. Not only can they not just do the job it's also unsafe for untrained people to run those machines. It's the first thing they say in the operators manual and it's written all over the machines. "Authorised trained use only". It's an OSHA violation to let just anyone operate things without training.
The best business owner I ever worked for was a guy who owns a restaurant but knew nothing about cooking. What he did know how to do was hire good people and run support, he was in the kitchen almost every night doing prep work, washing dishes, scrubbing the floors, and if it was a rough night he bought everyone a few drinks from the bar after we closed up. I would still be there if I wasn't offered a much higher paying position elsewhere, and still drop in when I'm in town and he always greets me warmly and hangs out to catch up. The secret to running a successful small business is you have to care.
Story 3: What a recipe for disaster. The owner doesn't even know what he'a doing. 1. Forcing one person to cover for every single no-show 2. Refusing to pay overtime (That's illegal btw) 3. Refusing to fire people that did stuff that very definitely would get them fired 4. Turning down proposals that actually would benefit the place 5. Hiring people that evidently aren't qualified This guy needs to learn how to run a place *properly*
Amazing but not surprising... the owner tried to pretend OP wasn't critical to the business even after two weeks of a shitshow without them. Dude, just step up and admit you desperately need this person. Give them the proper authority to act AND listen to them. Also, operations documentation is critical especially for some place with high turnover like a typical coffee shop.
I worked for a bully boss who decided to blame me for something he had a large part in screwing up. He sent me home to "think about whether I want to work there or not", so in a couple of days I called in my notice. He had to do all my duties himself after that. 🤷🙄
Story 2: OP later added, in an edit or comment, that they did about 80% of Mary's work, which explains why she was so vindictive - she would have to do her own job from then on. Also, of course Mary was fired. Like OP said, it was a small company, and Mary put OP in a position to easily sue the company for all the harassment if they kept her. Her services weren't worth the risk.
If i was The owner of the company and I had an employee like Mary doing this to another employee I'd be putting her on suspension or a three strike rule because that's undermining my authorization and authority by doing this to an employee for no reason.
I'd have fired Mary on the spot and sue her for sabotage and then ask the quitting OP to help finding a replacement for both of them at 200%pay (OP+Mary's wages) until OP was due to start at her their new job.
All these stories remind me of my very last IT job. Only instead of bosses, it was employees that drove me out and caused the place to collapse. Don't mess with the specialist who holds the keys to bridging your brand new computer system with a legacy system from twenty years ago.
I worked as a consultant or outsource specialist in IT for several companies over the years. A lot of employees just seem to have issues with contract or outsourced people. I'm definitely no stranger to watching how FAFO plays out in those situations.
Mary: I’M NOT GONNA GIVE YOU A REFERENCE!!!! OP: Whatever. Me after hearing what Mary did: Yeah. That was probably for the best, since Mary is most likely considered a fire keg of a burning pariah now.
Story 3: it's crazy how the boss blames the NOT-manager for not running the store well enough but won't let them fire bad employees, won't let them work shifts, and then basically fires them temporarily as a punishment, which only teaches the boss how badly he's about to mess up because OP already quit.
Moving mirrors story: Being a retired truck driver I had a pretty good idea of what was going to happen. I've moved more than a few things with a pallet jack and it doesn't take more than 3 to 5 degrees off level to make a heavy pallet VERY difficult to move safely. Going down an inclined ramp would be a disaster waiting to happen, as in this story. Fluff, the typical hand operated pallet jack is probably around another 50 pounds by itself. Accounting story: Mary is an IDIOT several times over!!! It takes a great deal of training to be an accountant, not just everyone can do it. OP was filling in on an emergency basis, most likely till an actual accountant could be hired and trained for the position. Given OP leaving and Mary getting herself fired, I suspect the owner at that point would have had to hire an accounting service, at least on a temporary basis. Coffee shop story: Sounds amazing that they're still in business.
@@TheAttacker732 Quite possibly. I was thinking more in the line of a standard pallet jack they jury-rigged to use. But I will admit I'm guessing at the weight. Also I'm thinking manual, not motorized.
@@merlinathrawes746 I don't actually have a ballpark on how much the motorized jacks weigh. I've never interacted with those ones at my workplace, just the manual ones. They're just the basic ~4000lb/~66" pallet jacks that can be bought from virtually any industrial supply company, and found in just about every shipping & receiving department.
One of the things you learn as being a cosmetologist is that when you're in the profession you've tend to use the mirrors as a way of preparing yourself or I guess a way of being aware of your surroundings more. You use the reflections to help you see who's coming or going. I use that now as a way of making sure no one sneaks up behind me kind of way.
The reason that owners shoot themselves in the foot so often is that their petty egos being gratified is actually more important to them than actual business success if the two are not consistent with each other! Crazy, but oh so very human.
Story 1: I know I'm gonna be like that owner when I get up in age. I can't imagine the day when I can't do my job as well anymore. I'm glad he didn't flip out on his employees though.
Story 4 - I love hearing stories where jealous dummies think that they can do ‘better’ than someone else and they end up either failing or realizing that they made a horrible mistake. I had something like that happen to me when I was playing soccer in the 8th grade. We were a mixed grade soccer team and I always played the goalie, mainly because I wasn’t afraid to get dirty and I had a strong kick, and during a game one girl (a sophomore) from my team was ‘talking trash’ about me and said that she could do way better than me. So my mom told the coach and he called timeout and switched us. Not even 5 minutes had passed and the other team had already got 2 goals on her and she got so angry that she stomped off the field. The coach put me back in and we managed to win the game. My mom later told me what happened and I just laughed.
Something similar is actually happening right now. I was the Assistant Manager at a store, but because our new manager is horrible, I transferred to a different one. One of the employees is a friend of the manager, owns a restaurant, and an autobody shop. She had said for the longest time she didn't want to be anybody important. She's going to be the next Assistant because no one else wants it(if that tells you anything). One of the employees leaving asked if she knew what she was getting into. she said that it would be easy since she ran a restaurant. I laughed. Got a call this morning because the new assistant forgot to do the deposit the previous night. Felt bad for the person opening, but can already see the store going downhill after being best in the district.
The first one was quite wholesome compared to the others. I was expecting the owner to go off on the OP based on how these stories usually go but they seem pretty chill.
I don't know how shower doors compare to mirrors, but there was this one time I was helping my parents with house renovations, and I was carrying a shower door from the bathroom it was previously installed all the way to the elevator. That thing was heavy, and me, a dumb young adult, tried to carry that thing by myself without any assistance. I never made it out of the apartment - the vibrations caused the door to SHATTER TO PIECES IN MY HANDS, showering me with glass shards. Thankfully, I was fine - just one deep cut in a finger and many smaller ones on my exposed arms and legs. But I learned my lesson: never carry that breakable stuff by myself again.
Story 3: My first job was at a store where the owner knew very little about running the business. He spent most of his time out of the store getting drunk with his buddy who was the editor in chief of our town's newspaper. But it was actually a pretty good job, because the owner's son ran the place and he was competent. The people who worked there knew their job, and it pretty much ran like clockwork. I was sad when I had to quit to go to college. Oh? And I should note that I worked there in 1989-90, and the store is still one of the staple businesses in my hometown. It was a privately owned auto parts store, and even with Auto Zone and O'Reilly opening up shop down the highway from it, it's still going strong, partly, I suspect, because the owner (and later the owner's son who inherited it) had relationships with the various mechanics and trucking/shipping companies in town and could get them deals on parts and rebuilds. The shade tree mechanics who work on their own vehicles shop at the chain stores, but all the garages within about 20 miles (and there are a lot of them) get their stuff from my old workplace.
@dracodarkheartgaming2357 so him being 70 does he get 105 years worth of bad luck in his remaining life span or just regular bad luck for the rest of his life?😮
Forwarding internal emails to the wrong department is usually a fireable offense, because that's often a case of sharing confidential information with people who are not authorized to view it. That could be considered not only sabotage, but workplace espionage.
It's a fact that people don't leave bad jobs... they leave bad managers. As Richard Branson said, "Clients do not come first. Employees come first. If you take care of your employees, they will take care of the clients."
Hello my wonderful, beautiful, Fluff, Steve-o and friends! For Story 1: I'm impressed that the owner doubled down at dinner. Dude, just take the L and move on! All that said, he seems like a good boss.
Story 1: OP didn't say anything about how the broken mirrors were replaced, except to mention that he was ordered by the O to contact the providers. I would hope that the O had a decent business insurance plan in place and all the accident cost the company was a deductible. If I owned a brick-and-mortar business like that, you bet I would! Story 3: I have worked in kitchens and I had never heard of an "alto sham." I looked it up. Turns out, Alto-Shaam is a wholesale provider of large commercial kitchen equipment like ovens and warmers. So, apparently, that's what OP needed because he mentioned that the one purchased included a smoker function. But the phrasing was weird. You can't buy a "used Alto-Shaam." That's not the name of a manufacturer. Also, the chef working 70-80 hours and getting paid hourly shouldn't be taking more home than the owner. If that's happening, then the owner has not idea how to handle the books. Granted, OP did say that the owner squandered the business profits, so maybe this isn't as strange as it sounds to me.
How much a mirrors costs? I never bought one, so I have no idea. I only know 2x4 glass sheet (for my window) cost about $5 in my town (not US, btw). I suppose mirror would be more expensive.
About the Mary's story I had one. I was working at a pharmacy with a boss who was a nightmare: evil, liar, manipulative, cleptomaniac, you name it. I was fired from there because of her and I found a great place to work at. It was wonderful to know I found there a good ex-coleague and the owner was a gentleman, too. The pharmacy needed a manager and put a hiring add. Guess what. The nightmarish boss was trying to get the position and showed up her most beautiful colors and skills. I told the owner about her antics and yes, she wasn't hired.
I can't see how people can run a business without knowing how a business operates. In the last story, the owner should have had a better grasp of what is to be expected within the business, especially the recipes used for running the restaurant. If they have no clue, they need to hire a manager for both the front of the house and the back. Implement the rules and regulations for how to operate the business, what is to be expected, etc. I have worked for small businesses and big box businesses, if I was to operate my own, I would have a better grasp over what goes into it and the output of it. I always asked questions with managers and owners as to how they ran their business, I saw what worked and what didn't. I would also be selective as to what I would own at the same time.
For most of these owners, it's a pride problem, not a money problem. It's their problem that they can't control their stupid pride. I'd wave and say, "Have fun eating your own crap then!"
I'd be able to handle those mirrors. BARELY. I push carts at my job. Their weight adds up. I can even think of a comparable slope. And you do NOT want the margin for handling something heavy being "Barely". You want a comfortable margin
B: I need you to work extra this month. OP: My employment contract that you insisted on says I only work 40 hours/week maximum B: Oh, that's just a guideline. OP: That's not what the contract says. B: What? OP: If you want to reopen my contract for new negotiations, that's fine with me. I want an extra $1000 per month and guaranteed time off during Christmas week. B: OP: Oh, you think I deserve more than that? Wow, how generous. B:
Dude's lucky mirrors can be mass produced in factories. Imagine how expensive that mess would be if they still had to be hand blown, polished, silvered, then polished again...
What is most surprising to me with story 3 is that OP actually stayed there after the first week after finding out what kind of a shit show was being run by the bosses. I would have been looking for a job straight away after I found out how things were being done. Working 90-100 hours is ridiculous. Taking away all authority to do things to keep the work going smoothly is also pretty stupid. Nah that job would be history if it was me.
Moral of Story #1: "The question "ARE YOU SURE?" is a glaring red flag. Third Story: Once the owner’s ego started running his mouth, it’s the beginning of the end.
I’m not saying hey are, but even if they are fictional I’m loving these stories. That said the world is such a weird place (full of some very odd people) I genuinely want to feel these stories are true, and am taking them at face value, really wholesome stuff :)
I just want to say my favorite videos are of the Malicious Compliance. I literally can't wait till you post them. Some people just need a lesson and I'm so impressed with their results. LOVE THESE STORIES. Keep up with these please.
For story three, one key rule of the business world is you never, ever become dependent on one employee for aspects of the firm. Never. The primary reason is life. Accidents and bad things happen and if that person slips on ice or is in a car accident, do you want your business to be screwed? During 2020 with Covid, this happened to a lot of businesses. You hear far too many stories about key employees getting sick and/or dying and they got stuck and could never properly reopen as quarantines lifted.
First story... The 48" square mirror is 1/4 inch thick and the glass alone weighs nearly 52 lbs. Add a metal frame, stand and stabilizing base and it's likely that you are over 100 lbs. No idea how OP thinks they're 20 lb units.
Last story: You spend 25 years as a chef and then decide to leave the industry. How? To do what? You've never had time to train for anything else. Did anyone see a follow-up to that story?
Story 1: Stacking mirrors = moronic. When my age was still in single digits I learned to pack flat objects sideways to reduce damage from any mishap. Seems the man had never moved a box of plates, let alone a load of mirrors. Even if he hadn’t been overwhelmed by the mass, any other bad move likely would’ve resulted in avoidable damage.
Agree, the ending to the first story is actually quite wholesome, and the boss is quite decent. Eh, a rough wake-up call to his age, but all's well that ends well
The owner said to take time off and think about the job. OP did just that and determined it wasn't worth it. He never expected OP to come back and say "Bye boss." He was expecting a lot of groveling, I guess.
Fluff, in the first story, you've forgotten to take the pallet jack into account. Full-size pallet jacks, the ones big enough to reasonably handle 4' mirrors, are close to 200lbs. So it was closer to *500lbs* coming down that ramp. I am a *big* guy in my physical prime, and bringing pallets up & down a ramp is still a challenge. Both in strength and traction.
I worked for a local smoke shop a few years ago. I was given a key and asked to open the store one day. I had no code for the security system to shut it off. The owner's relatives in India watched the security cameras all the time but didn't shut it off. Owner didn't answer his phone and managers didn't either. So I went home. Then my roommate's act like I am in the wrong for having waited 2 hours trying to contact managers and owner before giving up.
Story 3: OP should be making 40/hr. That's a lot of work and responsibilities. Pos owner just thought the biz printed money and he was trying to scrape more for himself.
story 2: somewhat irrelevant but there was a comment who had an arrangement with the CEO of the company he worked for and even gave OP permission to use his personal parking spot, but was stopped chewed out and threatened by his VP, afterward he called op to apologize in a sarcastic tone and OP heard near the phone "apologize like your job depends on it" OP quit
WTF was Mary's endgame? so she was pissed about OP leaving, so she :checks notes: made her final days in the company unbearable? actively sabotaged OP's final days at work? created massive headaches for the entire company? just because ONE only BARELY qualified employee wanted a better position?
Story 3 is so frustratingly but also hilariously dumb. An employee basically made themselves the manager without taking more power from it than they are owed, basically ideal work ethic and they understandably want to be promoted. They also tell you "Hey, er...the kitchen has been on fire for a while now and that's good for no one"(which is true). You decide to confront them and say "you are on time out, you are the issue". They literally warn you that they are the only person keeping the boat over water. You say "lol, don't care. Pound sand." And then you go surprise Pikachu face when they infact leave to pound higher quality sand on a better beach and they were right about stuff going wrong.
I was a tier one Civil Supervisor running a team of 40 construction workers installing Water Main and Storm Water on a Government job . The company decided that the work force will now become contractors get paid out and carry on as before to save on benefits they paid . I created my own business and carried on regardless for 12 months and competed the contract then moved on . Very quickly the Government wanted all the photos , test results , inspections , safety paper work etc etc to allow payment to proceed . My old employer realised that it was my property as they supplied my company with nothing to record anything and the contract I signed didn't cover this . We came to a price that I was very happy with that paid for a beautiful farm and they got their millions from the Government .
11:30 If all that owner cared about was money, he should have been interested in having a happy workforce and willing and able to take over any jobs at the coffee shop if someone didn't show up instead of treating his people like they were desperate people unable to get hired elsewhere.
This sort of thing is why you should be careful about spending yourself into debt. The mentality of working a job by choice but not being dependent on the job is how you keep your agency. I misunderstood one owner that was trying to reduce hours but he said on Wednesday "don't come in the next couple of days and we'll see how it goes". Monday morning he called to see where I was at, I was at my new job, one I'd always known I could take working for a large corporation. Better pay, more flexibility, better benefits... he did me a favor.
I desagree, it's not greed... a little, but it's not just that. If you're greedy, you would have bought a 1000$ stove instead of the 1500$ machine that was ask and the 12k$ machine that he actually bought. If you're greedy, you look at the budget and see that you're business do good cash : you shut up, keep an eye and let it go. And if you're smart, you talk to the chef and other employee to make sure it continue that way. I feel like the owner has a pride issue. He wanted to be the figure everybody knew for his restaurant.... forgetting that the kitchen is the heart of the restaurant and not the manager (he still supposed to be the lung).
Story 3 reminds me of a situation I once found myself in. I was hired by a fixed base operations aviation company to be the Chief Pilot as I had experience as such at the airline I had retired from! But I quickly realized I had the responsibility and liability as my name was on the paperwork, but had no power or authority to set policy or make decisions! I resigned within the first month.
Mary Mary quite contrary and not all quiet, got fired and has to pay for damages, will not be getting a recommendation ! oh dear, she deserved it. How come the other person took 80K, was she not checking his work ?
I never really could understand how someone could own a business, and not know how to run it. I get that there are people who own a business or buy a business that’s already there and they don’t have to know how to run it, but you would think it would make it so much better.
Story 2: Attempting to sabotage people's jobs is one of the worst things you can do. Like, Mary really tried to ruin OP's last days, taking away access, and even throwing tantrums because OP found a better opportunity and never told her about it (why would that even matter?)
The company is better off without Mary anyway, her response being to destroy property shows that she is VERY unfit for her role
What’s so funny is that Mary honestly thought she could get away with it and not get called out. Like, she had to have realized that it would have shown that she took OP’s access away, not once, but twice, and that she diverted OP’s emails.
How did she think that was going to go down? That no one would double check? Lady was full on bonkers.
Very likely she was actually doing the embezzlement, and threw the first person under the bus to cover up, and now was trying the same in order to blame OP for the stuff she was doing still, so as to cover her tracks and still carry on to do more. Firing her was hard, but they would need to do a lot of work to first find out what the karen stole, and then try to claim it back from her as well. But they would not likely get much back, as she likely spent it all already, and has nothing much to show for it either.
I came across a similar story where the OP later found out that their boss was also looking for the same position OP was going for and the boss was trying to sabotage OP's chances of hiring. Unfortunately for the boss, OP actually knew the person that was hiring and had effectively told OP that no one else but them is going to get the job. It ended up with the boss getting fired from the old job and practically chased out of town because the "event" became a widely known incident and nobody else would hire them.
Alternatively, in another story, OP found out that their boss was essentially dumping all of their work on OP and therefore when OP was changing jobs, the boss realised that they would get caught slacking and wanted to sabotage OP's chances of getting hired in the new place so they be forced to stay where they are.
I suspect that Mary was also trying to apply for the same job that OP was trying or was an incompetent boss that was using OP for a free ride.
Mary assumed, (wrongfully) that she had the power to ruin OP's chance at getting another job when her other ideas backfired. Since she was fired, she won't be able to get another job or try to ruin the jobs of other people ever again.
She was probably jealous
I kind of feel for the owner in the first story. Yes, he clearly overestimated his ability to lift the mirrors but it sucks to get older and have your body let you down. Especially when the mind feels so much younger and it seems like it was only yesterday you were 40. I'm glad nobody got hurt.
agreed. if he started yelling at op etc right aftherward we would efneitly not feel bad for the owner, but the owner sounds like he is not the worst boss, but just like you mentioned overestimated his own ability there. atleast the only thing that did get damaged was some mirrors, it could defenitly have gone worse there.
That and the 7+ years of bad luck
@@ByteSizedGamer With how many mirrors he broke, he'll have bad luck for the rest of his life.
Basic rule of owning small business: know how to do everything involved in the business.
This is why, IMO, that managers need to have hands on experience before they can be considered fit to take the helm.
Those are the best owners I've known. They might not be as good as the people they pay to do the work but they know enough. How does an owner know an employees worth without doing the work themselves? That's why they pay other people to worry about that once they get big enough but thats the point where owners become disconnected from their employees.
As an example from my experience, I worked for a family business that went from a father running it to his daughter. We were short a hand in the machine shop(machinist) and the daughter suggested using someone from assembly to do machinist work. She acted like it was no big deal, anyone could do the work... The father would've never done that because he knew the difference between the work for those two jobs and what it took to do the work. Someone from assembly had no training for machinist work. Not only can they not just do the job it's also unsafe for untrained people to run those machines. It's the first thing they say in the operators manual and it's written all over the machines. "Authorised trained use only". It's an OSHA violation to let just anyone operate things without training.
The best business owner I ever worked for was a guy who owns a restaurant but knew nothing about cooking. What he did know how to do was hire good people and run support, he was in the kitchen almost every night doing prep work, washing dishes, scrubbing the floors, and if it was a rough night he bought everyone a few drinks from the bar after we closed up. I would still be there if I wasn't offered a much higher paying position elsewhere, and still drop in when I'm in town and he always greets me warmly and hangs out to catch up.
The secret to running a successful small business is you have to care.
Story 3: What a recipe for disaster. The owner doesn't even know what he'a doing.
1. Forcing one person to cover for every single no-show
2. Refusing to pay overtime (That's illegal btw)
3. Refusing to fire people that did stuff that very definitely would get them fired
4. Turning down proposals that actually would benefit the place
5. Hiring people that evidently aren't qualified
This guy needs to learn how to run a place *properly*
Amazing but not surprising... the owner tried to pretend OP wasn't critical to the business even after two weeks of a shitshow without them. Dude, just step up and admit you desperately need this person. Give them the proper authority to act AND listen to them. Also, operations documentation is critical especially for some place with high turnover like a typical coffee shop.
I worked for a bully boss who decided to blame me for something he had a large part in screwing up. He sent me home to "think about whether I want to work there or not", so in a couple of days I called in my notice. He had to do all my duties himself after that. 🤷🙄
Such people don't learn - his inflated ego won't let him.
There's just so much OP could have gotten him on. He could have made mint from this dumba$$.
Refusing to pay over time is only illegal if the employee works over time. If they are told not to, at all, then no law broken.
Story 2: OP later added, in an edit or comment, that they did about 80% of Mary's work, which explains why she was so vindictive - she would have to do her own job from then on.
Also, of course Mary was fired. Like OP said, it was a small company, and Mary put OP in a position to easily sue the company for all the harassment if they kept her. Her services weren't worth the risk.
She was so concerned about the business and then she destroys it that's the biggest irony of all.
Her “concern” was an excuse to pull a power play.
🎉h
If i was The owner of the company and I had an employee like Mary doing this to another employee I'd be putting her on suspension or a three strike rule because that's undermining my authorization and authority by doing this to an employee for no reason.
I'd have fired Mary on the spot and sue her for sabotage and then ask the quitting OP to help finding a replacement for both of them at 200%pay (OP+Mary's wages) until OP was due to start at her their new job.
"Don't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs." This could be the motto for all the overbearing know it all boss stories.
Story 2: that Karen is just digging herself into a deeper hole with her antics and I doubt she be able to find a job with her hair trigger temper.
I would gladly tell anyone calling for a reference how Mary treated OP & the psychotic way she left when fired. 😈
First Story: Lets see here...15 mirrors x 7 years of bad luck means the owner is in for a rough 105 years
What I was thinking 😎
The first bit of bad luck was having to shell out nearly $4k for replacement mirrors.😄And then he got out-punched by a girl.
Only 105 years? That's only 1 whole lifetime's worth of bad luck
The man’s gonna continue having bad luck beyond the grave since he’s already 70
Hope the guy isn’t superstitious. 🤣
Story 1: Everyone knows better hair totally helps with holding heavy weights.
Perhaps OP's name was Samson.
He was joking with that part.
All these stories remind me of my very last IT job. Only instead of bosses, it was employees that drove me out and caused the place to collapse. Don't mess with the specialist who holds the keys to bridging your brand new computer system with a legacy system from twenty years ago.
I worked as a consultant or outsource specialist in IT for several companies over the years. A lot of employees just seem to have issues with contract or outsourced people. I'm definitely no stranger to watching how FAFO plays out in those situations.
Mary: I’M NOT GONNA GIVE YOU A REFERENCE!!!!
OP: Whatever.
Me after hearing what Mary did: Yeah. That was probably for the best, since Mary is most likely considered a fire keg of a burning pariah now.
15:20 coffee shop story: the owner suspends his only manager and then the next day doesn't even _answer his phone_ for hours???
Did the owner inherit the business? Cuz that’s the only way I can think of an owner knowing nothing about running it.
Story 2: “Don’t ask me for a reference. Because I won’t give you one!” My personal response: “*Shrug* Okay. I wasn’t planning on it anyway”
It's fine you're not important. I'll be asking the boss over here
Story 3 - Good on OP for getting out of that chaotic work place with an incompetent owner. That idiot Owner brought it on himself.
Story 3: it's crazy how the boss blames the NOT-manager for not running the store well enough but won't let them fire bad employees, won't let them work shifts, and then basically fires them temporarily as a punishment, which only teaches the boss how badly he's about to mess up because OP already quit.
With the last story, the owner didn’t shoot himself in the foot. He shit himself in both feet and was starting to the gun upward.
21:38 "Don't micromanage the goose that lays the golden eggs"
(Even if you think you know more about laying eggs than the goose.)
There's knowing about it and there's proficiency for the task. A kid by the name of Mike Teevee learned that the hard way.
Story 1 - Sometimes…. Older doesn’t mean smarter.
Being older doesn't mean you're wiser. It means you had more time to be stupid. It's a philosophy coined by Terry Pratchett.
Gonna have to remember that line from Fluffy: She didn’t just burn a bridge, she burned the whole village. 😂
Moving mirrors story: Being a retired truck driver I had a pretty good idea of what was going to happen. I've moved more than a few things with a pallet jack and it doesn't take more than 3 to 5 degrees off level to make a heavy pallet VERY difficult to move safely. Going down an inclined ramp would be a disaster waiting to happen, as in this story.
Fluff, the typical hand operated pallet jack is probably around another 50 pounds by itself.
Accounting story: Mary is an IDIOT several times over!!! It takes a great deal of training to be an accountant, not just everyone can do it. OP was filling in on an emergency basis, most likely till an actual accountant could be hired and trained for the position. Given OP leaving and Mary getting herself fired, I suspect the owner at that point would have had to hire an accounting service, at least on a temporary basis.
Coffee shop story: Sounds amazing that they're still in business.
Full-size pallet jacks, long enough to handle 4' mirrors, are closer to 200lbs.
@@TheAttacker732 Quite possibly. I was thinking more in the line of a standard pallet jack they jury-rigged to use. But I will admit I'm guessing at the weight. Also I'm thinking manual, not motorized.
@@merlinathrawes746 I don't actually have a ballpark on how much the motorized jacks weigh. I've never interacted with those ones at my workplace, just the manual ones.
They're just the basic ~4000lb/~66" pallet jacks that can be bought from virtually any industrial supply company, and found in just about every shipping & receiving department.
@@TheAttacker732Electric jacks are easily over 1000 lbs, probably closer to 1500. Standard jacks in my experience are 150-250 lbs.
One of the things you learn as being a cosmetologist is that when you're in the profession you've tend to use the mirrors as a way of preparing yourself or I guess a way of being aware of your surroundings more. You use the reflections to help you see who's coming or going. I use that now as a way of making sure no one sneaks up behind me kind of way.
Beware the Candy Man.
@@gorilladisco9108 or Bloody Mary
The reason that owners shoot themselves in the foot so often is that their petty egos being gratified is actually more important to them than actual business success if the two are not consistent with each other! Crazy, but oh so very human.
Story 1: I know I'm gonna be like that owner when I get up in age. I can't imagine the day when I can't do my job as well anymore. I'm glad he didn't flip out on his employees though.
Story 4 - I love hearing stories where jealous dummies think that they can do ‘better’ than someone else and they end up either failing or realizing that they made a horrible mistake.
I had something like that happen to me when I was playing soccer in the 8th grade. We were a mixed grade soccer team and I always played the goalie, mainly because I wasn’t afraid to get dirty and I had a strong kick, and during a game one girl (a sophomore) from my team was ‘talking trash’ about me and said that she could do way better than me. So my mom told the coach and he called timeout and switched us. Not even 5 minutes had passed and the other team had already got 2 goals on her and she got so angry that she stomped off the field. The coach put me back in and we managed to win the game. My mom later told me what happened and I just laughed.
Something similar is actually happening right now.
I was the Assistant Manager at a store, but because our new manager is horrible, I transferred to a different one. One of the employees is a friend of the manager, owns a restaurant, and an autobody shop. She had said for the longest time she didn't want to be anybody important. She's going to be the next Assistant because no one else wants it(if that tells you anything). One of the employees leaving asked if she knew what she was getting into. she said that it would be easy since she ran a restaurant. I laughed. Got a call this morning because the new assistant forgot to do the deposit the previous night. Felt bad for the person opening, but can already see the store going downhill after being best in the district.
First story warmed my heart,last one,the chef cooked the owners goose!😂😂😂
The first one was quite wholesome compared to the others. I was expecting the owner to go off on the OP based on how these stories usually go but they seem pretty chill.
I don't know how shower doors compare to mirrors, but there was this one time I was helping my parents with house renovations, and I was carrying a shower door from the bathroom it was previously installed all the way to the elevator. That thing was heavy, and me, a dumb young adult, tried to carry that thing by myself without any assistance.
I never made it out of the apartment - the vibrations caused the door to SHATTER TO PIECES IN MY HANDS, showering me with glass shards. Thankfully, I was fine - just one deep cut in a finger and many smaller ones on my exposed arms and legs. But I learned my lesson: never carry that breakable stuff by myself again.
Story 3: My first job was at a store where the owner knew very little about running the business. He spent most of his time out of the store getting drunk with his buddy who was the editor in chief of our town's newspaper.
But it was actually a pretty good job, because the owner's son ran the place and he was competent. The people who worked there knew their job, and it pretty much ran like clockwork. I was sad when I had to quit to go to college.
Oh? And I should note that I worked there in 1989-90, and the store is still one of the staple businesses in my hometown. It was a privately owned auto parts store, and even with Auto Zone and O'Reilly opening up shop down the highway from it, it's still going strong, partly, I suspect, because the owner (and later the owner's son who inherited it) had relationships with the various mechanics and trucking/shipping companies in town and could get them deals on parts and rebuilds. The shade tree mechanics who work on their own vehicles shop at the chain stores, but all the garages within about 20 miles (and there are a lot of them) get their stuff from my old workplace.
That’s a lot of years of bad luck 🍀 with all 15 mirrors 🪞 broken?! 🤦♂️
7 years a mirror with 15 is 105 years………ouch
It's 105 Years Bad Luck or 7 Years 15 times of Bad Luck.😂
@dracodarkheartgaming2357 so him being 70 does he get 105 years worth of bad luck in his remaining life span or just regular bad luck for the rest of his life?😮
@@nickarganbright7218 Nah he just get's the 15 times of Bad Luck.
Forwarding internal emails to the wrong department is usually a fireable offense, because that's often a case of sharing confidential information with people who are not authorized to view it. That could be considered not only sabotage, but workplace espionage.
It's a fact that people don't leave bad jobs... they leave bad managers. As Richard Branson said, "Clients do not come first. Employees come first. If you take care of your employees, they will take care of the clients."
That mirror owner had all the takeoff config warnings going at once, and he didn't think to listen to at least one of them? Play thyne stupid games...
Reminds me of Korean Air's legendarily bad reputation before they finally fixed everything up.
Hello my wonderful, beautiful, Fluff, Steve-o and friends!
For Story 1: I'm impressed that the owner doubled down at dinner. Dude, just take the L and move on! All that said, he seems like a good boss.
Story 1: OP didn't say anything about how the broken mirrors were replaced, except to mention that he was ordered by the O to contact the providers. I would hope that the O had a decent business insurance plan in place and all the accident cost the company was a deductible. If I owned a brick-and-mortar business like that, you bet I would!
Story 3: I have worked in kitchens and I had never heard of an "alto sham." I looked it up. Turns out, Alto-Shaam is a wholesale provider of large commercial kitchen equipment like ovens and warmers. So, apparently, that's what OP needed because he mentioned that the one purchased included a smoker function. But the phrasing was weird. You can't buy a "used Alto-Shaam." That's not the name of a manufacturer. Also, the chef working 70-80 hours and getting paid hourly shouldn't be taking more home than the owner. If that's happening, then the owner has not idea how to handle the books. Granted, OP did say that the owner squandered the business profits, so maybe this isn't as strange as it sounds to me.
How much a mirrors costs?
I never bought one, so I have no idea. I only know 2x4 glass sheet (for my window) cost about $5 in my town (not US, btw). I suppose mirror would be more expensive.
He did say about $3800 for the mirrors that broke
@@darralynemunro7350 Well, that's expensive ... -ly out of my budget 😅
About the Mary's story I had one. I was working at a pharmacy with a boss who was a nightmare: evil, liar, manipulative, cleptomaniac, you name it. I was fired from there because of her and I found a great place to work at. It was wonderful to know I found there a good ex-coleague and the owner was a gentleman, too. The pharmacy needed a manager and put a hiring add. Guess what. The nightmarish boss was trying to get the position and showed up her most beautiful colors and skills. I told the owner about her antics and yes, she wasn't hired.
I can't see how people can run a business without knowing how a business operates. In the last story, the owner should have had a better grasp of what is to be expected within the business, especially the recipes used for running the restaurant. If they have no clue, they need to hire a manager for both the front of the house and the back. Implement the rules and regulations for how to operate the business, what is to be expected, etc. I have worked for small businesses and big box businesses, if I was to operate my own, I would have a better grasp over what goes into it and the output of it. I always asked questions with managers and owners as to how they ran their business, I saw what worked and what didn't. I would also be selective as to what I would own at the same time.
The story about the coffee shop is an old one but still a good one
For most of these owners, it's a pride problem, not a money problem. It's their problem that they can't control their stupid pride.
I'd wave and say, "Have fun eating your own crap then!"
Yea, if your best and most productive employee is willing to work overtime, it never makes sense to have less productive staff do the work instead.
I keep watching these and hope I never have to deal with these levels of BS. But making notes for if I do... haha!
Excellent idea
Coffee shop story was so satisfying
I'd be able to handle those mirrors. BARELY. I push carts at my job. Their weight adds up. I can even think of a comparable slope. And you do NOT want the margin for handling something heavy being "Barely". You want a comfortable margin
Your owner has no idea how physics work that’s why he’s in cosmetology 😅.
DarkFluff is one of my favorite channels
What the hell does having better hair have to do with moving mirrors 😂
If he is a Narcissist, he likely will.😑
B: I need you to work extra this month.
OP: My employment contract that you insisted on says I only work 40 hours/week maximum
B: Oh, that's just a guideline.
OP: That's not what the contract says.
B: What?
OP: If you want to reopen my contract for new negotiations, that's fine with me. I want an extra $1000 per month and guaranteed time off during Christmas week.
B:
OP: Oh, you think I deserve more than that? Wow, how generous.
B:
Just remember; What glass really is, is melted rock.
A specific type of rock by at least two names: silica and quartz. Some things are mixed in to provide colour.
First story.
Karen: are you judging my knowledge?
Me: your knowledge? No, your intelligence? Maybe
He built the school which gave employments to some people. I won't chart it as unintelligent.
He is not a karen just a dude that cant accept he is old
Dude's lucky mirrors can be mass produced in factories. Imagine how expensive that mess would be if they still had to be hand blown, polished, silvered, then polished again...
Story 2 = OP should also sue her for harrasment and slander.
What is most surprising to me with story 3 is that OP actually stayed there after the first week after finding out what kind of a shit show was being run by the bosses. I would have been looking for a job straight away after I found out how things were being done. Working 90-100 hours is ridiculous. Taking away all authority to do things to keep the work going smoothly is also pretty stupid. Nah that job would be history if it was me.
Moral of Story #1: "The question "ARE YOU SURE?" is a glaring red flag.
Third Story: Once the owner’s ego started running his mouth, it’s the beginning of the end.
I’m not saying hey are, but even if they are fictional I’m loving these stories.
That said the world is such a weird place (full of some very odd people) I genuinely want to feel these stories are true, and am taking them at face value, really wholesome stuff :)
Those last two stories sound like set ups for kitchen nightmares episodes
story 3: that owner should know that the lollypop company is hiring, they need someone to pose for the world's largest sucker
"Gimme a bigger lolly!" -Herschel "Krusty" Krustovsky
15 mirrors x 7 years bad luck. That dude is going to be ancient!
I just want to say my favorite videos are of the Malicious Compliance. I literally can't wait till you post them. Some people just need a lesson and I'm so impressed with their results. LOVE THESE STORIES. Keep up with these please.
For story three, one key rule of the business world is you never, ever become dependent on one employee for aspects of the firm. Never. The primary reason is life. Accidents and bad things happen and if that person slips on ice or is in a car accident, do you want your business to be screwed? During 2020 with Covid, this happened to a lot of businesses. You hear far too many stories about key employees getting sick and/or dying and they got stuck and could never properly reopen as quarantines lifted.
"nobody knows how to order coffee" haha, sure. you're special
First story... The 48" square mirror is 1/4 inch thick and the glass alone weighs nearly 52 lbs. Add a metal frame, stand and stabilizing base and it's likely that you are over 100 lbs. No idea how OP thinks they're 20 lb units.
A boss told me that he could replace me in an hour. I told him that he could hire someone, but he would never replace me.
Never ever lay glass flat.
OP should call Mary at 4:30 am and ask why she was fired.
Last story: You spend 25 years as a chef and then decide to leave the industry. How? To do what? You've never had time to train for anything else. Did anyone see a follow-up to that story?
Story 1: Stacking mirrors = moronic. When my age was still in single digits I learned to pack flat objects sideways to reduce damage from any mishap. Seems the man had never moved a box of plates, let alone a load of mirrors. Even if he hadn’t been overwhelmed by the mass, any other bad move likely would’ve resulted in avoidable damage.
A mirror that large with a steel frame is absolutely more than just 20 lbs.
Also, what does “having more hair” have to do with upper body strength.
Idk how many I get in the truck as long as none of them broke I'd be happy that none of the mirrors broke.
These folks have a strange way of thanking someone who gave them a job.
These bosses have a strange way of thanking people who are keeping the companies running.
OP should have quit as soon as he was not made a manager when the probationary period ended. Still, he could now get a management position elsewhere.
Agree, the ending to the first story is actually quite wholesome, and the boss is quite decent. Eh, a rough wake-up call to his age, but all's well that ends well
3:59, Famous last Words.
Yeah 2nd story, manager was straight up sabotaging the company
Frankly there should have been legal action against her
The owner said to take time off and think about the job. OP did just that and determined it wasn't worth it. He never expected OP to come back and say "Bye boss." He was expecting a lot of groveling, I guess.
Fluff, in the first story, you've forgotten to take the pallet jack into account. Full-size pallet jacks, the ones big enough to reasonably handle 4' mirrors, are close to 200lbs. So it was closer to *500lbs* coming down that ramp.
I am a *big* guy in my physical prime, and bringing pallets up & down a ramp is still a challenge. Both in strength and traction.
I worked for a local smoke shop a few years ago. I was given a key and asked to open the store one day. I had no code for the security system to shut it off. The owner's relatives in India watched the security cameras all the time but didn't shut it off. Owner didn't answer his phone and managers didn't either. So I went home. Then my roommate's act like I am in the wrong for having waited 2 hours trying to contact managers and owner before giving up.
Story 3: Gee makes you wonder why the former manager who worked there before OP just walked out...
Story 3: OP should be making 40/hr. That's a lot of work and responsibilities. Pos owner just thought the biz printed money and he was trying to scrape more for himself.
story 2: somewhat irrelevant but there was a comment who had an arrangement with the CEO of the company he worked for and even gave OP permission to use his personal parking spot, but was stopped chewed out and threatened by his VP, afterward he called op to apologize in a sarcastic tone and OP heard near the phone "apologize like your job depends on it"
OP quit
WTF was Mary's endgame? so she was pissed about OP leaving, so she :checks notes: made her final days in the company unbearable? actively sabotaged OP's final days at work? created massive headaches for the entire company? just because ONE only BARELY qualified employee wanted a better position?
Another commenter posited that Mary was running out of people to take her fall.
Story 3 is so frustratingly but also hilariously dumb. An employee basically made themselves the manager without taking more power from it than they are owed, basically ideal work ethic and they understandably want to be promoted. They also tell you "Hey, er...the kitchen has been on fire for a while now and that's good for no one"(which is true). You decide to confront them and say "you are on time out, you are the issue". They literally warn you that they are the only person keeping the boat over water. You say "lol, don't care. Pound sand."
And then you go surprise Pikachu face when they infact leave to pound higher quality sand on a better beach and they were right about stuff going wrong.
The leading cause of injury among 70-year-old men is them not realising -- or just not accepting -- that they are now 70-year-old men.
The leading cause of injuries among 25 year old men is underestimating what a 70 year old is capable of. 🤨
I was a tier one Civil Supervisor running a team of 40 construction workers installing Water Main and Storm Water on a Government job . The company decided that the work force will now become contractors get paid out and carry on as before to save on benefits they paid . I created my own business and carried on regardless for 12 months and competed the contract then moved on . Very quickly the Government wanted all the photos , test results , inspections , safety paper work etc etc to allow payment to proceed . My old employer realised that it was my property as they supplied my company with nothing to record anything and the contract I signed didn't cover this . We came to a price that I was very happy with that paid for a beautiful farm and they got their millions from the Government .
4th story. Tax writeoffs. Makes sense from a business owner perspective
I swear Ive heard that coffee shop story on this channel before
If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
11:30 If all that owner cared about was money, he should have been interested in having a happy workforce and willing and able to take over any jobs at the coffee shop if someone didn't show up instead of treating his people like they were desperate people unable to get hired elsewhere.
Owners believe they can quicky get another gooose.
This sort of thing is why you should be careful about spending yourself into debt. The mentality of working a job by choice but not being dependent on the job is how you keep your agency.
I misunderstood one owner that was trying to reduce hours but he said on Wednesday "don't come in the next couple of days and we'll see how it goes". Monday morning he called to see where I was at, I was at my new job, one I'd always known I could take working for a large corporation. Better pay, more flexibility, better benefits... he did me a favor.
It doesn't matter how much he needed that raging 5yr-old of an employee. You just don't treat people like that.
Last Story... it's called GREED!!
I desagree, it's not greed... a little, but it's not just that. If you're greedy, you would have bought a 1000$ stove instead of the 1500$ machine that was ask and the 12k$ machine that he actually bought. If you're greedy, you look at the budget and see that you're business do good cash : you shut up, keep an eye and let it go. And if you're smart, you talk to the chef and other employee to make sure it continue that way. I feel like the owner has a pride issue. He wanted to be the figure everybody knew for his restaurant.... forgetting that the kitchen is the heart of the restaurant and not the manager (he still supposed to be the lung).
Listening to these stories makes me sooo glad that it´s illegal for your employer to contact you outside of work hours in my country.
Story 3 reminds me of a situation I once found myself in. I was hired by a fixed base operations aviation company to be the Chief Pilot as I had experience as such at the airline I had retired from! But I quickly realized I had the responsibility and liability as my name was on the paperwork, but had no power or authority to set policy or make decisions! I resigned within the first month.
Contracts are never a “guideline.” 😂
Fluff and Coco Puffs, what a great way to start the morning!
Mary Mary quite contrary and not all quiet, got fired and has to pay for damages, will not be getting a recommendation ! oh dear, she deserved it.
How come the other person took 80K, was she not checking his work ?
I never really could understand how someone could own a business, and not know how to run it. I get that there are people who own a business or buy a business that’s already there and they don’t have to know how to run it, but you would think it would make it so much better.
Better hair is always a good indicator of strength ability!