BYD Shark is Really Really Really a good looking beast! It has much more power than Hilux and Ranger hybrid, but consume lower fuel than both utes. US$40k is a bargain price too. No wonder It's banned in The USA. Ford, Tesla won't like this beast.
Finally, someone who correctly explains how the drive system works on the BYD Shark 6! A great video explaining just. Bout everything we need to know on this great new vehicle. Think apart from the price, the only thing I could think of is can it fit a pallet between the rear wheel arches? If the optionally accessories from the Ford Ranger also fit on the rear tub of this, then they really will have potentially a huge order list. As for the load and towing specs, I think this will be good enough for a lot of people who want it just as a lifestyle vehicle rather than an outright work vehicle. Can’t wait to see one in the metal!👌🙂
@@darrenmorgan5849 I looked around but I couldn't find the arch to arch measurements. There are a few brands in Mexico that have made Ranger tray covers and roll bars that people have fitted to the Shark. A few photos of these one the BYD Shark Owners Review too.
Thank you for being the most informative about this incredible vehicle there have been so many so-called experts that have exasperated me in their failures 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
@@alexzannoni1501 Thank you 🙏 could be possible! They are calling it the 'BYD Shark 6', so this leaves the door open for a BYD Shark 7 that would be full EV!
Thanks for explaining how the ICE direct drive works! I've heard a few people try, but they said things about it that didn't make sense. This vehicle is honestly looking perfect!
Great little story...Thanks for the update. Been following the Shark for a while now & you seem to be on op of everything related in a simple to understand type review.
Some people have commented that the Shark won't have as good off road capability, compared to utes like the Ford Ranger. Do you know any more about this? I have a feeling that it's just people with old fashioned thinking. They said the same about the Amarok when it was first released because it only had a four cylinder engine and an eight speed auto. But in practice it was proven to be faster and just about more capable than all the traditional utes.
@@vasil7410 search 'Leopard 5 offroad' on TH-cam. There are alot of videos of it challenging extreme off-road challenges. The Shark is basically a Leopard 5 turned into a ute. Same platform, drivetrain.
Fuel Mode: ICE + Countershaft+ Diff. Diff powers front wheels. Gear on ICE crank is clutched. Electric mode: Drive Motor P2 + Countershaft + Diff Series mode: ICE + Generator P1 sends current to Battery and Motor P2. Parallel mode: ICE + Drive Motor P2 No planetary gearset. More like a Honda eHEV. ICE in parallel with motor and powering differential at highway speeds, when ICE in its efficient rpm band. Basically, clutched gearsets are engaged for power flow.
The London taxi Levc Tx was designed as a range extender EV cab and introduced around seven years ago. I understand that the BYD shark range extender concept is the same.
its funny it took so long for petrol-electric tranmission to be a thing, when it was use by Porsche in it competition to win the tiger tank contract back in WWII. 91 were build however Germany did not select it for the Tiger tank because the use of copper for electric motors was view as too wasteful in a resource scare WWII Germany so a more conventional design was selected. the main advantage of petrol-electric tranmission vs traditional hybrid is the lack of mechanical transmission and drivetrain. this mean you can put the engine anywhere you want as long as you can run a pair of cable to it as well as greatly reducing the number of parts you need. the fact that it advantages was understood in WWII and we are only implementing it in cars today... always amuse me...
There is a youtuber in Canada making diesel electric drive trucks, called Edison motors. It's the best of both worlds! It allows the ICE to run at its most efficient speed at all times.
There is another vehicle with almost exactly the same system in principle. The Holden/Chev Volt. It has 2 electric motors connected together via clutch packs, a petrol engine on one end and to the wheels on the other. It is always 2 motor ev by default until the battery is at 0% on the gauge (20% actual). Then the engine starts and stops coupled to the smaller motor to generate electricity to the battery and the larger motor connected to the wheels for drive. At highway speeds the engine can drive through both motors and to the wheels. It just all happens up the front of the vehicle. The smaller motor is also the starter motor for the petrol engine. I am assuming the Shark will use the front motor as a generator effectively making it rear wheel drive while the petrol motor is coupled to the front motor to generate electricity?? Not sure how this will go off road when you want all wheels driving and also need to keep charging.
Yes it is similar, but the Shark can choose to be a full AWD EV, a series AWD hybrid, or a parallel AWD hybrid at any given time depending on the conditions. The front electric motor is actually more powerful than the rear which tells me it has front wheel electrical motor bias, and not rear wheel like the Chevy
I have a ranger at the moment can’t tell you the last time I towed more than 2T. I have definitely towed 3.5T (car on a car trailer) but let’s be honest 95% people that own a ranger don’t tow more than a 750kg box trailer or let alone go off road. So this 2.5t towing will still be more than enough
So folks will be drawn into venturing off road, but the $ saving of 1000km range applies for the first part of the trip. The comment that the petrol is more efficient is nonsense. At the end of the day you have a piddly form of power generation to keep the heavy vehicle on the road. Once the battery is low, performance is compromised as has been proven in the early road tests. In respect to the incident rate of phev fires, putting a battery and electric drive chain into an ice vehicle fires not make the ice vehicle any safer! You are still strapping the family on top of 50 litres of liquid flammable fuel and also emitting toxic gas into your surrounds.
@@mickjoebills as mentioned in the video, you can change the save settings to kick on the ICE at a higher % so it doesn't go into eco mode in a low battery state.
BYD's blade batteries generally have a discharge rate of 10c or even greater, and even at low battery levels, they have the ability to instantly release large currents to provide sufficient torque for the motor to drive the wheels.
I would like more information on towing near max 2.5T. Will engine be able to keep up charge to battery on a road trip? Especially up hills and extra load in tub.
@@JarrodVains-fl8ly not sure. But I am aware they are testing exactly this in Australia as we speak. A Camo BYD Shark was seen towing a caravan near Ballarat a couple weeks ago.
Does anyone know if you can set the shark on a timer to switch off once the battery is fully charged? For example let’s say I drive 100klms to work I park up can I set the car to run the petrol engine until it’s fully charged then it shuts itself down and I’ve got charge again to get home after work?
Apparently you can let it sit there and idle until it reaches sufficient charge. But it will just turn off the engine when it gets to a certain %, not sure what percentage though.
@@BeYonD-EV thanks mate would be awesome if that’s a possibility as so many people like myself would set it to continue idling until charged and then shuts down and we don’t have to wait by the car we can go to work and know when I finished my car be charged again for trip home.
Byd mechanically connects ice to front wheels at highway speeds via some sort of clutch, 😊according to this video. BMW Rex ICE did not connect mechanically to the wheels.
Hmmmmmm.....let's see. It has a fuel burning engine with a transmission AS WELL as a battery pack and all the computers and electronics that go along with it?? that means twice the parts, twice the complexity, twice as many systems to service and twice as many service charges. Its nothing but a Morphadite.
Clueless, Shark is no different to other byd drivetrains, it uses a dual motor p1-p2 layout to power the front wheels with an added fixed gear for cruising. The rear wheels are directly powered from the battery. So this is a widely used byd dmi drivetrain, which is actually terrible because when the small battery depletes you are left with a tiny engine moving a huge vehicle resulting on bad fuel efficiency at least. On a mountain drive you are going to eventually loose battery power and speed.
How about we wait instead of just guessing. I will be most likely one of the 1st true private owners if I can get my hands on one and the price / features don't change as currently assumed. We have a very large mountain range between Port Macquarie and Tamworth...Oxley Highway. This will be one of the 1st trips that we will do and this will truly test it's range/power over a longer distance over mountains twisting roads. It will also test it's regenerative capability both ways.
@@alf699 yeah, i mean chinese only test these in ideal conditions, would love to see if a loaded shark can cope with uphill highway sections or mountain roads.
@@BeYonD-EV You say that this is not similar to hev or phev while it is exactly how all honda, nissan, saic, byd, etc work. The engine rotates a generator which produces power for the traction motor. On top of that you say that if you run out of battery you cannot drive even if you have petrol in the tank which is completely false. The car will never run out of battery, you can never charge it if you like and in theory if we remove the battery it can still run on the p1-p2 motors. Then you said that the power 99 per cent of the time comes from the blade battery which is also false. The battery provides charge to the rear motor, the front one is powered from the engine, so if you dont force ev mode the engine will be mostly used to power the front motor. Then you said when you put your foot down the power goes straight...etc also false, to get on power the engine has to rev up to charge the p1-p2 motors, so there is no instant power delivery like an ev. Then you said that electric motors run at 70 percent, come on man! Electric motors run over 90 per cent. This of course is a fact for evs, in this case the engine runs at 45 per cent and another 10 per cent at least is lost through the inverter so you are around 35 per cent. Then you said the petrol engine is there to charge the battery, also false, it is used to power the front motor, push the vehicle on cruising speeds through a fixed gear and power the battery. Then you are saying that the motor extends the battery range! This is getting weird! I have no comment on that. You cannot keep charging a battery that moves a vehicle, the battery would overheat and blow in minutes. The engine charges the traction motor. Then you say that the engine puts out 77kw and on screen 96kw. You described the cruising part correctly.
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BYD Shark is Really Really Really a good looking beast! It has much more power than Hilux and Ranger hybrid, but consume lower fuel than both utes. US$40k is a bargain price too. No wonder It's banned in The USA. Ford, Tesla won't like this beast.
Finally, someone who correctly explains how the drive system works on the BYD Shark 6! A great video explaining just. Bout everything we need to know on this great new vehicle. Think apart from the price, the only thing I could think of is can it fit a pallet between the rear wheel arches? If the optionally accessories from the Ford Ranger also fit on the rear tub of this, then they really will have potentially a huge order list. As for the load and towing specs, I think this will be good enough for a lot of people who want it just as a lifestyle vehicle rather than an outright work vehicle. Can’t wait to see one in the metal!👌🙂
@@darrenmorgan5849 I looked around but I couldn't find the arch to arch measurements. There are a few brands in Mexico that have made Ranger tray covers and roll bars that people have fitted to the Shark. A few photos of these one the BYD Shark Owners Review too.
@@BeYonD-EV can’t wait to see what they do with their final pricing.
Thank you for being the most informative about this incredible vehicle there have been so many so-called experts that have exasperated me in their failures 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
unveiling on October 29, 2024. (AUSTRALIA) received message from BYD
You explain better than BYD themselves.
Haha yes this is true.
Thanks for a thorough review 👍👍I'm looking forward to a full EV Shark coming to Australia 🇦🇺
@@alexzannoni1501 Thank you 🙏 could be possible! They are calling it the 'BYD Shark 6', so this leaves the door open for a BYD Shark 7 that would be full EV!
Has it got a steering rack and column?
Thanks for explaining how the ICE direct drive works! I've heard a few people try, but they said things about it that didn't make sense. This vehicle is honestly looking perfect!
Well delivered, clear and to the point.
I was going to buy a Model y, but a tray is just as good. Certainly on my list.
Great little story...Thanks for the update. Been following the Shark for a while now & you seem to be on op of everything related in a simple to understand type review.
Thanks mate. I do my best to research and investigate everything BYD releases!
I'm confident that the price you quoted is very correct. 😉
I think BYD Shark drivetrain is the way forward for EV’s.
Enjoyed the explanation electric vehicle ❤😂
Some people have commented that the Shark won't have as good off road capability, compared to utes like the Ford Ranger. Do you know any more about this?
I have a feeling that it's just people with old fashioned thinking. They said the same about the Amarok when it was first released because it only had a four cylinder engine and an eight speed auto. But in practice it was proven to be faster and just about more capable than all the traditional utes.
@@vasil7410 search 'Leopard 5 offroad' on TH-cam. There are alot of videos of it challenging extreme off-road challenges. The Shark is basically a Leopard 5 turned into a ute. Same platform, drivetrain.
No physical lockers, like the old style diffs on the Rangers, but good traction control may overcome that.
Well done mate. Perfect video explaining all there is to know. On my way back from Europe now ans itching to drive my shark and start with the mods!
@@timothyclements7718 all started with your info mate! It's getting really popular here in Australia now, it's crazy!
Fuel Mode: ICE + Countershaft+ Diff. Diff powers front wheels. Gear on ICE crank is clutched.
Electric mode: Drive Motor P2 + Countershaft + Diff
Series mode: ICE + Generator P1 sends current to Battery and Motor P2.
Parallel mode: ICE + Drive Motor P2
No planetary gearset. More like a Honda eHEV. ICE in parallel with motor and powering differential at highway speeds, when ICE in its efficient rpm band. Basically, clutched gearsets are engaged for power flow.
👏 That is right on the money! If anyone is after a more technical explanation of how this works, this is it!
Wow sounds good❤
Awesome. Has anyone parked car when at 20% battery 🔋, then adjusted minimum battery charge setting to 80% and timed how long petrol motor runs for. ?
The London taxi Levc Tx was designed as a range extender EV cab and introduced around seven years ago. I understand that the BYD shark range extender concept is the same.
Top review. I’ll have one.
its funny it took so long for petrol-electric tranmission to be a thing, when it was use by Porsche in it competition to win the tiger tank contract back in WWII. 91 were build however Germany did not select it for the Tiger tank because the use of copper for electric motors was view as too wasteful in a resource scare WWII Germany so a more conventional design was selected. the main advantage of petrol-electric tranmission vs traditional hybrid is the lack of mechanical transmission and drivetrain. this mean you can put the engine anywhere you want as long as you can run a pair of cable to it as well as greatly reducing the number of parts you need. the fact that it advantages was understood in WWII and we are only implementing it in cars today... always amuse me...
There is a youtuber in Canada making diesel electric drive trucks, called Edison motors. It's the best of both worlds! It allows the ICE to run at its most efficient speed at all times.
With my immune deficiency and allergies, filtration is a huge selling point.
I know you were following the views of the last Shark video, just know that this first has had 3x the views in the first 8 hours as the last one!
@@BeYonD-EV Shows BYD know what they are doing.
Nice work. It is getting close. I know it.
I was thinking of trading in my 2017 Amarok for the Shark but is having second thought.
I've got a Cybertruck on preorder, but I have to say that this is pretty tempting and available way earlier.
Is there a date for cybertruck in Aus?
Cybertruck is pathetic. Have some self respect.
Goodnight Hilux
Like a Holden/Chevy Volt.
We are going to need a bigger charging station .... ;-)
😂
There is another vehicle with almost exactly the same system in principle. The Holden/Chev Volt. It has 2 electric motors connected together via clutch packs, a petrol engine on one end and to the wheels on the other. It is always 2 motor ev by default until the battery is at 0% on the gauge (20% actual). Then the engine starts and stops coupled to the smaller motor to generate electricity to the battery and the larger motor connected to the wheels for drive. At highway speeds the engine can drive through both motors and to the wheels. It just all happens up the front of the vehicle. The smaller motor is also the starter motor for the petrol engine.
I am assuming the Shark will use the front motor as a generator effectively making it rear wheel drive while the petrol motor is coupled to the front motor to generate electricity?? Not sure how this will go off road when you want all wheels driving and also need to keep charging.
Yes it is similar, but the Shark can choose to be a full AWD EV, a series AWD hybrid, or a parallel AWD hybrid at any given time depending on the conditions.
The front electric motor is actually more powerful than the rear which tells me it has front wheel electrical motor bias, and not rear wheel like the Chevy
Need more tow tonnage, otherwise sounds brilliant
I have a ranger at the moment can’t tell you the last time I towed more than 2T. I have definitely towed 3.5T (car on a car trailer) but let’s be honest 95% people that own a ranger don’t tow more than a 750kg box trailer or let alone go off road. So this 2.5t towing will still be more than enough
Do you think lowering the pressure on the tyres will allow the shark to drive on Australian soft sand?
@@DIEGOCUBILLOS-b6w not sure, but it's been tested in Australia for the last 3 months so hope so
So folks will be drawn into venturing off road, but the $ saving of 1000km range applies for the first part of the trip. The comment that the petrol is more efficient is nonsense.
At the end of the day you have a piddly form of power generation to keep the heavy vehicle on the road.
Once the battery is low, performance is compromised as has been proven in the early road tests.
In respect to the incident rate of phev fires, putting a battery and electric drive chain into an ice vehicle fires not make the ice vehicle any safer!
You are still strapping the family on top of 50 litres of liquid flammable fuel and also emitting toxic gas into your surrounds.
@@mickjoebills as mentioned in the video, you can change the save settings to kick on the ICE at a higher % so it doesn't go into eco mode in a low battery state.
BYD's blade batteries generally have a discharge rate of 10c or even greater, and even at low battery levels, they have the ability to instantly release large currents to provide sufficient torque for the motor to drive the wheels.
I would like more information on towing near max 2.5T. Will engine be able to keep up charge to battery on a road trip? Especially up hills and extra load in tub.
@@JarrodVains-fl8ly not sure. But I am aware they are testing exactly this in Australia as we speak. A Camo BYD Shark was seen towing a caravan near Ballarat a couple weeks ago.
I want to know if it’s ok off road, does it have a rear diff lock (or equivalent in EVterms)
@@lengerer it does. It has 3 electric locks, front, rear and centre.
@@BeYonD-EV wow very nice. I think I’ll replace my v6 amarok with one of these
Even with out locks it will still be better than a rock
Got anything on the bao5 or bao8 for Australia?
@@bartandrew Bao 5 was just available for test drives to Australian media in China yesterday. Could be possible that it will be heading down here
@@BeYonD-EVwhoa, awesome!
how big is the fuel tank?
60L
Tow capacity?
Isn't the same engine tech in the sealion 6?
@@biznuss1 yes, that is correct. Same engine, but the electric motors are more powerful in the Shark
The battery ist too smal !
Does anyone know if you can set the shark on a timer to switch off once the battery is fully charged? For example let’s say I drive 100klms to work I park up can I set the car to run the petrol engine until it’s fully charged then it shuts itself down and I’ve got charge again to get home after work?
Apparently you can let it sit there and idle until it reaches sufficient charge. But it will just turn off the engine when it gets to a certain %, not sure what percentage though.
@@BeYonD-EV thanks mate would be awesome if that’s a possibility as so many people like myself would set it to continue idling until charged and then shuts down and we don’t have to wait by the car we can go to work and know when I finished my car be charged again for trip home.
not quite unique. BMWi3 REX also has a petrol generator
@@kerryphelvin8503 not unique in that it is an EREV which do exist, But the specs this puts out are pretty unique
@@BeYonD-EV And if it gets "E" into the ute space its legend
Really looking forward to this. Wonder if it qualifies for the govt EV tax incentives or not having to pay luxury car tax.
Byd mechanically connects ice to front wheels at highway speeds via some sort of clutch, 😊according to this video. BMW Rex ICE did not connect mechanically to the wheels.
Needs to be full ev
Ev trucks are garbage
Hmmmmmm.....let's see. It has a fuel burning engine with a transmission AS WELL as a battery pack and all the computers and electronics that go along with it?? that means twice the parts, twice the complexity, twice as many systems to service and twice as many service charges. Its nothing but a Morphadite.
Oh goodness, your subscription history is crazed Tesla fanboy. Take that matt pocius cult crap to a Tesla pump site.
Its a hybrid
Perfect! That's what the people want.
Its better than a hybrid its a plug in hybrid😊
Clueless, Shark is no different to other byd drivetrains, it uses a dual motor p1-p2 layout to power the front wheels with an added fixed gear for cruising. The rear wheels are directly powered from the battery.
So this is a widely used byd dmi drivetrain, which is actually terrible because when the small battery depletes you are left with a tiny engine moving a huge vehicle resulting on bad fuel efficiency at least. On a mountain drive you are going to eventually loose battery power and speed.
How about we wait instead of just guessing. I will be most likely one of the 1st true private owners if I can get my hands on one and the price / features don't change as currently assumed. We have a very large mountain range between Port Macquarie and Tamworth...Oxley Highway. This will be one of the 1st trips that we will do and this will truly test it's range/power over a longer distance over mountains twisting roads. It will also test it's regenerative capability both ways.
@@theredbaron7302 what you just said is exactly how I explained it in the video, so why am I clueless?
@@alf699 yeah, i mean chinese only test these in ideal conditions, would love to see if a loaded shark can cope with uphill highway sections or mountain roads.
@@KMTmojo leopard 5 and 8 are phenomenal off-road cars!
@@BeYonD-EV You say that this is not similar to hev or phev while it is exactly how all honda, nissan, saic, byd, etc work. The engine rotates a generator which produces power for the traction motor.
On top of that you say that if you run out of battery you cannot drive even if you have petrol in the tank which is completely false. The car will never run out of battery, you can never charge it if you like and in theory if we remove the battery it can still run on the p1-p2 motors.
Then you said that the power 99 per cent of the time comes from the blade battery which is also false. The battery provides charge to the rear motor, the front one is powered from the engine, so if you dont force ev mode the engine will be mostly used to power the front motor.
Then you said when you put your foot down the power goes straight...etc also false, to get on power the engine has to rev up to charge the p1-p2 motors, so there is no instant power delivery like an ev.
Then you said that electric motors run at 70 percent, come on man! Electric motors run over 90 per cent. This of course is a fact for evs, in this case the engine runs at 45 per cent and another 10 per cent at least is lost through the inverter so you are around 35 per cent.
Then you said the petrol engine is there to charge the battery, also false, it is used to power the front motor, push the vehicle on cruising speeds through a fixed gear and power the battery.
Then you are saying that the motor extends the battery range! This is getting weird! I have no comment on that. You cannot keep charging a battery that moves a vehicle, the battery would overheat and blow in minutes. The engine charges the traction motor.
Then you say that the engine puts out 77kw and on screen 96kw.
You described the cruising part correctly.