The P3 movie sort of goes into the use of the suppressants. Shinji's attacks him the same way Chidori's does. Yukari also gets attacked from her own too. The reasoning was that since persona's are manifistations of the heart, if you reject that part then it will attack. Shinji wanted to reject his power, so he used the suppressants to prevent it from attacking him.
Thoroughly enjoyed this tier list from start to finish. I don't usually agree with a majority of tier list for persona as they are put together with weak explanations but this one was awesome!
I'm glad to see Sumire in A tier, such an underrated character, but I would put Yukari and Yukiko more up, those three are my favorite Persona Waifus of every game.
True, I think Yoshizawa tends to get lumped in with the other "re-release waifus" which I think is pretty unfair considering she's actually a good character.
P3P femc route adds more to the guys' personalities with the social links, Junpei's made a lot of sense, and there's when he said his dad was an alcoholic.
Totally agree with you about being critical of these games and how you might feel more caring about p3 than p4 and p5, after i played p3 i ended being more hatful to p5, and when i played p4 i was even more hatful to it, guess it depends on how much you enjoy the themes of persona in general, p3 for the dark story, p4 for the more lighthearted story and p5 trying its best to balance between them
It had been over a decade since I played FES so I didn't remember anything about Mitsuru and after playing it she just felt boring like Makoto. She shows even less personality than Makoto and her social link came way too late and it just felt like Haru's.
I must’ve pulled characters from the Reload section of the template without even considering Metis. Would’ve rounded out the tier list to 40 characters too, damn. Maybe I’ll add her at a later date, I should probably refresh my memory on The Answer/Episode Aigis anyway
@@CobraCodex You know that even if it is a bit unfair it makes sense to wait for the Reload version of The Answer to see if they added much more depth to her character before considering her ranking. Otherwise it is a fine video. I guess your stance on spinoffs is also why Toshiro & Erina are not on the list either too?
Huh? Did the games even have language options before Persona 5? Because I played FES and I don't remember that. I don't even think most games period didn't have language options. You would have to import for that.
32:56 You accidentally put Akechi here but you definitely haven't played P5 in a while. The team did immediately accept her into the team after she gained her Persona. I don't like her because she always got a stick up her ass. I cannot joke with her at all and I thought Ren is supposed to be the leader why is she making all the decisions? Also with all the shit they had to deal with as the Phantom Thieves and her sister quitting the force she still wants to be a cop! Bruh. I don't understand why everybody picks her as their girlfriend on their first playthrough.
Idk what you mean about Akechi, but as I stated in the video I think Makoto's favoritism has a lot to do with being more plot relevant than the rest of the team; and since Ren can't speak unless there are dialogue options that means someone else has to do the bulk of explaining plans and such.
I honestly agree with this list but I would put Yu, joker, Yukari and makoto in s tier other than that I agree with all your s tier characters. Plus I know many will disagree but I’d put kasumi lower
I honest mostly agree on this, especially with every S-tier character!
The P4 anime does a lot of legwork for Narukami. Highly recommend watching for anyone who hasn’t.
I need to do this too. Only watched the Golden animation (which was obviously lacking) since it was on crunchyroll a while back
The P3 movie sort of goes into the use of the suppressants. Shinji's attacks him the same way Chidori's does. Yukari also gets attacked from her own too. The reasoning was that since persona's are manifistations of the heart, if you reject that part then it will attack. Shinji wanted to reject his power, so he used the suppressants to prevent it from attacking him.
That makes a lot of sense, been a while since I watched the movies but I like the added context
Thoroughly enjoyed this tier list from start to finish. I don't usually agree with a majority of tier list for persona as they are put together with weak explanations but this one was awesome!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed!
Not a tier list video I actually mostly agree with 💀💀💀
I finally found your weakness lol
I agree with you a lot! Aigis is probably my favourite character and protagonist so im viciously awaiting the answer dlc
I'm glad to see Sumire in A tier, such an underrated character, but I would put Yukari and Yukiko more up, those three are my favorite Persona Waifus of every game.
True, I think Yoshizawa tends to get lumped in with the other "re-release waifus" which I think is pretty unfair considering she's actually a good character.
I respect the explanations and appreciate the honesty.
P3P femc route adds more to the guys' personalities with the social links, Junpei's made a lot of sense, and there's when he said his dad was an alcoholic.
He says something about it in The Answer as well which is what I was thinking of since I haven't played portable
This was a good tier list 👍
Although i disagree on some points, overall this was a W Tier list
Totally agree with you about being critical of these games and how you might feel more caring about p3 than p4 and p5, after i played p3 i ended being more hatful to p5, and when i played p4 i was even more hatful to it, guess it depends on how much you enjoy the themes of persona in general, p3 for the dark story, p4 for the more lighthearted story and p5 trying its best to balance between them
Putting naoto above teddie, Yosuke, Marie, and yu is criminal
new goated podcast just dropped
“for ever moment i do find him entertaining there is a moment for i find him equally irritating” that is bars, tessie is just like that😭
He's bearable enough ig
It had been over a decade since I played FES so I didn't remember anything about Mitsuru and after playing it she just felt boring like Makoto. She shows even less personality than Makoto and her social link came way too late and it just felt like Haru's.
This is pretty solid.
How come Metis, (P3 The Answer), is not on this list? Especially when you added the newer members for other groups as well.
I must’ve pulled characters from the Reload section of the template without even considering Metis. Would’ve rounded out the tier list to 40 characters too, damn.
Maybe I’ll add her at a later date, I should probably refresh my memory on The Answer/Episode Aigis anyway
@@CobraCodex You know that even if it is a bit unfair it makes sense to wait for the Reload version of The Answer to see if they added much more depth to her character before considering her ranking. Otherwise it is a fine video. I guess your stance on spinoffs is also why Toshiro & Erina are not on the list either too?
@@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kvCorrect, though if I do play the other spin-offs some day I’ll be sure to highlight what I think of said characters then
Huh? Did the games even have language options before Persona 5? Because I played FES and I don't remember that. I don't even think most games period didn't have language options. You would have to import for that.
It wasn't a feature back then afaik but I played P4G on steam and FES on PCSX2 with an undub mod
What? No Theo in the velvet attendant category 😭
Haven't played portable :(
@@CobraCodex That explains why there’s no Kotone Shiomi either 🥲
Huh? I just beat Reload a couple months ago and nothing happened to Makoto at the end.
yeah he just taking a quick nap
Holy shit it's finally here!
Persona 4 is my favorite so I’d put all of the investigation team in at least a tier
32:56 You accidentally put Akechi here but you definitely haven't played P5 in a while. The team did immediately accept her into the team after she gained her Persona. I don't like her because she always got a stick up her ass. I cannot joke with her at all and I thought Ren is supposed to be the leader why is she making all the decisions? Also with all the shit they had to deal with as the Phantom Thieves and her sister quitting the force she still wants to be a cop! Bruh. I don't understand why everybody picks her as their girlfriend on their first playthrough.
Idk what you mean about Akechi, but as I stated in the video I think Makoto's favoritism has a lot to do with being more plot relevant than the rest of the team; and since Ren can't speak unless there are dialogue options that means someone else has to do the bulk of explaining plans and such.
There’s no bad p3 characters!!
nahhh jose goes s tier he has a car
I honestly agree with this list but I would put Yu, joker, Yukari and makoto in s tier other than that I agree with all your s tier characters.
Plus I know many will disagree but I’d put kasumi lower
Fair points! A list with this many items tends to be pretty flexible so I wouldn't argue with these changes
Akechi in S and Ryuji in B is downright blasphemous.
Ryuji's in A tier tho
@@CobraCodex I might be slightly stupid
Didn’t get far enough to see that, had to take a break midway through, but I digress
I even like Marie I just think she is fun
Finally, I'm agree XD
metis is just gone
Move all 3 mc and ryuji at S tier
Move marie and teddie up to A
Move that little shi ken down to D+
Other than that, the tier list is perfect
Yu, Ren, and Ryuji is A at best. Marie in D is perfect ( putting her in same tier as Naoto and above Chie is crazy ) and Ken should be C imo
@rizkyalbarri1416 ur the crazy one I think 🤷🏾♂️
sorry but yu on B tier ... i had to dislike
i HATE makoto nijima worst persona team member should have made a special f tier for her
Can you explain why you have such a visceral reaction to this character? I genuinely don't understand the disdain some people have towards her.
I like Makoto! She’s cool with me. Marie on the other hand… 😅