These are the sort of jobs that never pay the amount of hours you put in. But personally these are the most satisfying and rewarding. This is one of the best and complete parasitic draw test I have seen. So very well done and thanks for your knowledge. As for the ungrateful customer Bye Bye and don't be pressured into doing any other work for him again if he comes back.
Over the years I've found that some of the customers for whom you've done the best work appreciate it the least. I hope someday this one will return to you with a problem that "the other shops" can't figure out. And then you can happily tell them "NO".
THAS WHAT MAKE YOU A MASTER, that's the same problem i have when costumer come to my shop they ask me how much is going to cost but it hard to give them awnser when is about current parasite draw .but you did a masterful diag kudos to you .
Sadel I seem to get so many parasitic drains mainly after the customer has spent time and money at previous garages having the simple parts changed, by then they have spent money and time without the vehicle then as you witnessed they are at the end of their patience. I felt for you at the end with the customer being upset even though you had followed the exact right diagnostic procedure without condemning incorrect parts, apart from the connector terminal cleaner, a bit of compressed air you supplied your knowledge to follow a direction path to give a definitive answer and you did, you gave it so precisely that I bet you felt great ( we all do) when you discovered the fault, you then are proud to tell your customer to then be flattened by their negative response and then to lose the customer is gutting. Mate all I can say is well done, although challenging it was great to see it’s not just me whom gets the challenging draws & as I said you did everything perfect, if you were a detective or a doctor and came to the correct answer you would of been patted on the back, appreciated and spoke highly of. Let’s just hope the customer views the video and reads these comments because WE are all behind you, and although I’m in the uk if I was local to you I would happily say to your customer “ you are not welcome at my workshop”. Don’t change a thing mate. Great content, as others have said I think it is the best PD video to date. Respect from the UK David Sinclair
Thank you for the kind words, it's awesome to hear someone that definitely understood my struggle. And funny thing on this one when I finally pulled that connector apart and saw the water, I did not feel "great" as we normally would, I felt "freed".... I felt that way because I had been on that truck for 15hrs stressed I was getting very tired, frustrated and beginning to lose hope. But luckily, I was able to overcome this one's challenge. Thank you for watching and thank you for the support! 👍
Amazing! I think the most converluted parasitic drain diags I've ever seen. Brilliant of you to share it and your knowledge Sadel! I have to admit that would have checked for bus activity. Found my way to the ABS and almost certainly would have pulled the trigger. What a huge mistake that would have been. You are then on the hook for the rest of the job. I learnt a great lesson today!
Glad it was helpful! And yes, I was seconds away from calling and stopping at the abs, to the point I was already pricing it out.... luckily nothing was readily available and so I decided to see if I could verify the abs on the bench. Thank you for watching
I can't believe it Sadel! I thought the problem was isolated to the ABS Control Module in the previous video! This is crazy! The best battery draw video I have seen. At the end did you find out from where that water was getting into that connector? Otherwise, is going to do it again! That was a lot of water! Really good diag Sadel. Thank you for sharing brother!
Si ese hombre ya no le da trabajo primo agradezca a Dios por que ese tipo no valora su conocimiento esfuerzo y paciencia, perseverancia con esta camioneta.
@@DTEAuto This car will ate so much money that that yours 15h is nothing...Be proud and charge your well worthed time! I like your videos and you are top profesional in this field!
Crazy crazy crazy. How do you feel champ?!! Going 12 rounds with the elusive conning with out a doubt one the toughest parasitic draw of all time!........🎤
that customer is lucky that he took that POS truck to you. Any place else and the parts cannon would have been fired multiple times and still no fix. Great diag
Oooo really nice and useful case study. Really customer says that not cooperate with you? Hmmm... if is true then will cooperate with parts changer or junkyard.
In this vehicle, are there two STAR connectors, and if yes, is there a small plug jumping one STAR to the other STAR essentially splitting the CAN in half if that plug is disconnected? I don't know but have seen this style before and if the answer is yes, in the future, you can unplug that jumper, cut the system in half at some point, and narrow down the issue to a smaller list of CAN Modules based on the CAN Schematic. I am not saying I would have gone straight to the ABS, along with my comment before that the IR VIEWER ought to have been used earlier, the ABS is historically at a high percentage of being at fault on all makes and models around the world, so we can argue that the ABS is a good starting point. ABS also typically sends speed info to the Cluster and the Trans sends Gear Selection to the Cluster via COMMS so the Cluster is busy using data not just passing it through. Maybe the cluster was drawing more power since it was also ALL LIT UP? AND the DRAMA continues to find the problem OMG. ScannerDanner says we need to charge to learn on-the-job training as we are not expected to memorize every little detail about every little system on every damn vehicle. May I ask what was your original hours charged to the owner, and what percentage of your actual time on the vehicle did you charge for? AWESOME FIND, American vehicle WOW, vehicle in EUROPE, Water Intrusion is a high rate of problems under the cowl, a good place to start looking, in American vehicles, a WOW find. I noticed that you did not LOAD test your voltages, how to get 12V with a high impedance meter down to 3.5V without a load, hmmm. One hell of a diag, kudos to you for finding that damn J/C, you probably was simply looking at every possible connection just to rule it out???? WOW By the way, this is one proof of why I don't test fuses with a test light, I want to see the voltage level with a test light across the meter, see Jake over at his channel, I will see if I find the link, I just watched it a few days ago. th-cam.com/video/TTNvBhXZO60/w-d-xo.html
Hola primo sadel . Que lío el de esta camioneta pero me gusta su persistencia y eso se valora . Únicamente me pregunto ¿ cómo le hace para cobrar un diagnóstico así y que usted no le calcule mal? Cuídese mucho primo .
Off topic. No communication with module, access module test power and ground, jumper leads from OBD 2 port to communication pin/wire at module, communication restored, bad wire, still no communication inspect possible separate circuit for wake-up call, still no communication with healthy data line, bad module. What do you think of my approach? Thank you in advance for your answer.
Customer was probably mad because he remembered doing something stupid like pressure washing his engine compartment. Did the source of the water ever get discovered?
He was expecting it to be fixed by me since his shop and the dealer couldn't figure it out, but he was not expecting me to want to charge for so much time that it actually took to figure out the problem. My mistake was assuming that he was wanting it fixed no matter what it took, and so I didn't let him know it was taking so many hours. Ultimately, he is one of the many that doesn't respect diagnostics and paying for it. If I would have said it took me only one hour of diagnosis and it "needed" a $2,000 computer he would have been fine, but if I said the bill is $2,000 for all the time to figure out no parts needed, he now has a problem.
@@DTEAuto What an ingrate, instead of appreciating your hard work. You did an excellent job and sharing it with us is priceless. It reminds me of a past employer who asked me after I figured out a difficult problem, "what can you do different next time so it won't take as long", there was no next time I left that shop.
So, lesson to us, mere mortals: 1. Pretend I am just a dumb user / driver. Get in the car, look around, I might see some evidence of prior "work": relays lying around, Huge Colossal Parts Cannon lying on the floor, etc. 2. Do the basics first: check voltage DROP on fuses (takes a minute or two). Note: pulling fuses and relays is a 10000 year old profession, never dies. 3. Using the two previous Rules of Life, there will be no need for gizmos, expensive trinkets, etc.
if you can do this without gizmos and expensive trinkets to verify what isn't the problem, and what is...... than you are the most amazing diagnostician ever that no one has ever heard of, I suggest you start a channel to show us immortals how to do things right.
These are the sort of jobs that never pay the amount of hours you put in.
But personally these are the most satisfying and rewarding. This is one of the best and complete parasitic draw test I have seen.
So very well done and thanks for your knowledge. As for the ungrateful customer Bye Bye and don't be pressured into doing any other work for him again if he comes back.
Couldn't agree more! Thank you for watching
Best diag I have seen
👍 thank you for watching
Over the years I've found that some of the customers for whom you've done the best work appreciate it the least. I hope someday this one will return to you with a problem that "the other shops" can't figure out. And then you can happily tell them "NO".
Bruce that’s so very true and it’s so disappointing after you have done some great work
THAS WHAT MAKE YOU A MASTER, that's the same problem i have when costumer come to my shop they ask me how much is going to cost but it hard to give them awnser when is about current parasite draw .but you did a masterful diag kudos to you .
Thank you for watching
Sadel
I seem to get so many parasitic drains mainly after the customer has spent time and money at previous garages having the simple parts changed, by then they have spent money and time without the vehicle then as you witnessed they are at the end of their patience. I felt for you at the end with the customer being upset even though you had followed the exact right diagnostic procedure without condemning incorrect parts, apart from the connector terminal cleaner, a bit of compressed air you supplied your knowledge to follow a direction path to give a definitive answer and you did, you gave it so precisely that I bet you felt great ( we all do) when you discovered the fault, you then are proud to tell your customer to then be flattened by their negative response and then to lose the customer is gutting.
Mate all I can say is well done, although challenging it was great to see it’s not just me whom gets the challenging draws & as I said you did everything perfect, if you were a detective or a doctor and came to the correct answer you would of been patted on the back, appreciated and spoke highly of.
Let’s just hope the customer views the video and reads these comments because WE are all behind you, and although I’m in the uk if I was local to you I would happily say to your customer “ you are not welcome at my workshop”. Don’t change a thing mate.
Great content, as others have said I think it is the best PD video to date.
Respect from the UK
David Sinclair
Thank you for the kind words, it's awesome to hear someone that definitely understood my struggle. And funny thing on this one when I finally pulled that connector apart and saw the water, I did not feel "great" as we normally would, I felt "freed".... I felt that way because I had been on that truck for 15hrs stressed I was getting very tired, frustrated and beginning to lose hope. But luckily, I was able to overcome this one's challenge. Thank you for watching and thank you for the support! 👍
Amazing! I think the most converluted parasitic drain diags I've ever seen. Brilliant of you to share it and your knowledge Sadel!
I have to admit that would have checked for bus activity. Found my way to the ABS and almost certainly would have pulled the trigger.
What a huge mistake that would have been. You are then on the hook for the rest of the job.
I learnt a great lesson today!
Glad it was helpful! And yes, I was seconds away from calling and stopping at the abs, to the point I was already pricing it out.... luckily nothing was readily available and so I decided to see if I could verify the abs on the bench. Thank you for watching
Wow Sadel what a case study. A great lesson for all of us. Thank you for getting to the root cause and showing us how it is done.
Glad you enjoyed it! This one was definitely a tough one, thank you for watching
That was an excellent diag I admire your determination instead of just throwing parts in
Thank you
The best video of testing for battery draw. It show many different diagnosis
thank you 👍
Wow awesome job finding the culprit for the power draw!
😳😳😳😵💫 your determination is amazing I was lost on all the testing on the ABS . But man amazing work
Thank you!
I can't believe it Sadel! I thought the problem was isolated to the ABS Control Module in the previous video! This is crazy! The best battery draw video I have seen. At the end did you find out from where that water was getting into that connector? Otherwise, is going to do it again! That was a lot of water! Really good diag Sadel. Thank you for sharing brother!
Absolutely brilliant, Sadel!
Thanks for taking the time to explain, excellent case study
Glad you enjoyed it!
-this should have at least 2K thumbs up ! i enjoyed it.
I would agree 👍, thanks for watching
Yo this was a really good series of videos thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you for watching
Very informitive channel thanks alot for sharing
Thanks for visiting
Si ese hombre ya no le da trabajo primo agradezca a Dios por que ese tipo no valora su conocimiento esfuerzo y paciencia, perseverancia con esta camioneta.
Buenísimo primo
La persistencia vale la pena .
La paciencia es remonerada primo es decir paga .
Saludos desde paraguay bendiciones ingeniero
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Masterpeace 👍
thank you! 👍
@@DTEAuto This car will ate so much money that that yours 15h is nothing...Be proud and charge your well worthed time!
I like your videos and you are top profesional in this field!
Crazy crazy crazy. How do you feel champ?!! Going 12 rounds with the elusive conning with out a doubt one the toughest parasitic draw of all time!........🎤
it definitely wore me out for sure, thanks for watching
that customer is lucky that he took that POS truck to you. Any place else and the parts cannon would have been fired multiple times and still no fix. Great diag
Yeah, I don't think he realized how much money I saved him! thank you for watching
Oooo really nice and useful case study.
Really customer says that not cooperate with you? Hmmm... if is true then will cooperate with parts changer or junkyard.
Aún no lo termino de ver y ya quiero abandonar el diagnóstico... es una pesadilla😅
In this vehicle, are there two STAR connectors, and if yes, is there a small plug jumping one STAR to the other STAR essentially splitting the CAN in half if that plug is disconnected? I don't know but have seen this style before and if the answer is yes, in the future, you can unplug that jumper, cut the system in half at some point, and narrow down the issue to a smaller list of CAN Modules based on the CAN Schematic.
I am not saying I would have gone straight to the ABS, along with my comment before that the IR VIEWER ought to have been used earlier, the ABS is historically at a high percentage of being at fault on all makes and models around the world, so we can argue that the ABS is a good starting point. ABS also typically sends speed info to the Cluster and the Trans sends Gear Selection to the Cluster via COMMS so the Cluster is busy using data not just passing it through. Maybe the cluster was drawing more power since it was also ALL LIT UP? AND the DRAMA continues to find the problem OMG.
ScannerDanner says we need to charge to learn on-the-job training as we are not expected to memorize every little detail about every little system on every damn vehicle. May I ask what was your original hours charged to the owner, and what percentage of your actual time on the vehicle did you charge for?
AWESOME FIND, American vehicle WOW, vehicle in EUROPE, Water Intrusion is a high rate of problems under the cowl, a good place to start looking, in American vehicles, a WOW find. I noticed that you did not LOAD test your voltages, how to get 12V with a high impedance meter down to 3.5V without a load, hmmm. One hell of a diag, kudos to you for finding that damn J/C, you probably was simply looking at every possible connection just to rule it out???? WOW
By the way, this is one proof of why I don't test fuses with a test light, I want to see the voltage level with a test light across the meter, see Jake over at his channel, I will see if I find the link, I just watched it a few days ago. th-cam.com/video/TTNvBhXZO60/w-d-xo.html
I charged for all the time I physically spent on it, no fluff.
Hola primo sadel .
Que lío el de esta camioneta pero me gusta su persistencia y eso se valora .
Únicamente me pregunto ¿ cómo le hace para cobrar un diagnóstico así y que usted no le calcule mal?
Cuídese mucho primo .
esta ves solo cobre por todo las horas que me tomo, pero normal mente empiazo con un prieso fijo y sube desde allí
perfect diag sadel . thank for your video .
Off topic.
No communication with module, access module test power and ground, jumper leads from OBD 2 port to communication pin/wire at module, communication restored, bad wire, still no communication inspect possible separate circuit for wake-up call, still no communication with healthy data line, bad module.
What do you think of my approach?
Thank you in advance for your answer.
Customer was probably mad because he remembered doing something stupid like pressure washing his engine compartment. Did the source of the water ever get discovered?
No I didn't end up finding cause unfortunately
Curious...what exactly was it that the customer was expecting? Don't understand what they were unhappy with.
He was expecting it to be fixed by me since his shop and the dealer couldn't figure it out, but he was not expecting me to want to charge for so much time that it actually took to figure out the problem. My mistake was assuming that he was wanting it fixed no matter what it took, and so I didn't let him know it was taking so many hours. Ultimately, he is one of the many that doesn't respect diagnostics and paying for it. If I would have said it took me only one hour of diagnosis and it "needed" a $2,000 computer he would have been fine, but if I said the bill is $2,000 for all the time to figure out no parts needed, he now has a problem.
My Pacifica was killing the battery within hours. Turned out to be the starter. Bizarre.
Great job.
What do you mean he fired you? Who fired you?
The customer "fired" me, meaning he decided to not ever come back to me for service after fixing this crazy truck for him.
@@DTEAuto What an ingrate, instead of appreciating your hard work. You did an excellent job and sharing it with us is priceless.
It reminds me of a past employer who asked me after I figured out a difficult problem, "what can you do different next time so it won't take as long", there was no next time I left that shop.
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So, lesson to us, mere mortals: 1. Pretend I am just a dumb user / driver. Get in the car, look around, I might see some evidence of prior "work": relays lying around, Huge Colossal Parts Cannon lying on the floor, etc. 2. Do the basics first: check voltage DROP on fuses (takes a minute or two). Note: pulling fuses and relays is a 10000 year old profession, never dies. 3. Using the two previous Rules of Life, there will be no need for gizmos, expensive trinkets, etc.
if you can do this without gizmos and expensive trinkets to verify what isn't the problem, and what is...... than you are the most amazing diagnostician ever that no one has ever heard of, I suggest you start a channel to show us immortals how to do things right.
15 hours is a hefty repair bill. You’ll be eating good this week
this was back in February, so back to ramen noodles again this week
😂😂😂
👍🏻Como dice Ivan de phad no requirió partes .
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exacto
Muchísimas gracias por responder primito
Las personas aveces somos estúpida pensamos que por ser agencia es mejor y esos solo quieren el pisto .
Last próxima que lo lleve a la agencia es baboson .
Así que gaste pisto pues por bruto .
Last próxima que lo lleve a la agencia es baboson .
Así que gaste pisto pues por bruto .