WORLDS 1ST BMW 135i N54 8HP45 CONVERSION!

[@wancsta]

Worlds first? Hey now lol I been running this guy for a month now with the Canformance box… Though I am xDrive so I suppose I would be 8HP45X. Either way congrats on another conversion I’m sure you’ll work the bugs out although that electrical issue is interesting.
One thing I think that needs to be explained is the AT diff ratio for the 335 at least is 3.46 (MT 3.08) Where as most 8HP equipped cars will come with a 3.08. This pretty much renders 1st gear useless in this application but places 2nd gear in a very nice sweet spot for launches somewhere in between the 6HP’s 1st/2nd. I will get a short video up now cuz internet proofz lol

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Awww man, i totally for got about your car and it was only last week we were talking about tuning. I better update my title haha. However please do some vids on your setup, experience with cantcu and i will link them to our viewers. Might help others know of different options out there.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Secondly i have been a defender of 1st gear launches with our high power cars. And even our flowmax twin turbo car is faster is launching in 1st with the 8hp. On the street this is. 2nd gear with transbrake will just blow the semi slicks off and result in a 100m skid. Or if i brake boost second it crawls away and makes boost (15psi limited) at about 20kmh in second and promtly blows the tyres off. However in first with boost limited to 10psi, it will get enough inetira and weight transfer to keep the tyres planted as it engages second. 1st gear starts feel like a low 3 second 0-100 dragy with the 8hp. However havnet tested it properly yet. But definitely faster than second gear. My 17t car was also always slower starting in 2nd, that car was around 700hp, but just can't put the power down from a second gear start, to much torque on a street surface, and if you wind the power down to hook, its too slow. I actually think the stock 3.46 diff ration works really well. You wont use first for normal driving, but a stock 8hp car doesnt use first either and at highway speeds the motor is sitting at 2000rpm, which is less than my DCT car with stock DCT diff.

[@wancsta]

@@ZeroTo60Tube I guess I’m a bit spoiled with xDrive lol. I am on 17T’s but turned down quite a bit right now getting things dialed in. I can only get on the converter for maybe 1 second before I have too much boost to leave the line in 2nd gear. With AWD I have always kind of relied on only having “sporty” tires to act as the shear pin for my fragile front end drivetrain bits. The run is never totally ruined if you don’t get the start perfect for me. I find the 8hp 2nd to be a very happy medium between the 6hp 1-2 so far. Hopefully I will get back to the drag strip soon to see the improvement over last years times with no changes other than 8HP swap. I can say my 60ft times will be much better for sure.
I did post a short video earlier but I am no TH-camr lol… Looking forward to more updates on the flowmax car but sounds like there is a lot going on there.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

@@wancsta Ahhhh yes, yes, i would love an xdrive setup. Stupid steering coloums on our RHD cars. What sort of 60fts were you doing the 6at if you dont mind me asking?

[@wancsta]

@@ZeroTo60Tube 1.9x for the most part. Hoping to see 1.7’s now. It was a coin toss with how the 6HP was going to screw me each time lol. Launch in 1st and it’s blow the tires off and kill timing in 2nd with the clunky shift. Or launch in 2nd sluggishly keeping the power down because if it saw too much clutch slip it would auto upshift to 3rd early like 4500rpm. Anyways 8HP is a welcome change best mod by far. Would be nice if you got your hands on a N54 with xDrive over there. Did the E60’s get it? Or maybe even go next level and start doing xDrive swaps on the channel lol

[@dantem306]

You just took a huge leap forward for the entire e8x/e9x generation

[@TheMultiDouche]

Such a great result mate with all the other life pressures going on. I’m genuinely stoked to see you get that thing in and working a treat.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

What pressures....... :| LOL bring on Q3 2022 please.

[@oemplusphom]

The dedication and full send attitude. Love to see it! Keep up the great content!

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Is there any other way to be with a modified BMW?

[@tylerduncan8687]

This is pretty epic, so stoked you've put in all this effort. This is encouraging for my dreams of an 8hp in my 135i!

[@bradchenoweth7584]

I feel you on the rain. We've been getting our fair share of that here too lately. I actually just bought my first N54 car. I snagged a E60 535I. Its FBO and has 19T's. I had to drive over Snoqualmie Pass on the way home and hit some crazy rain. That was absolutely the least fun I've had driving in a long time.... and I had just spent a lot of time stuck in stupid Seattle traffic. lol

[@bradchenoweth7584]

@Splash Good luck! I was looking for an E92 originally. They were hard to find in serviceable condition for a reasonable price. E90's were easier though and typically a little cheaper. Over in your area they're easier to come by than the east side of the state.

[@freddytexas1]

Great work! Waiting to see the final results.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@markhutchens4944]

Great to see the progress. This rain is relentless. Everyone over it! We’ve had over 1.6m this year already in SE QLD.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Its really bizzare. And most importantly a right pain in the back side when you need to drive on the grass to get to the shed. lol

[@cocko1135]

This year has been shit with the rain hey bro, at least you got some skiing in 😜. Nice work on the swap so far mate, amazeballs!

[@IRozza]

Lovely car! Is this finished in Le Mans blue or Montego Blue? Either way aren’t those two BMW colours pretty much identical

[@biglardyboy69]

Love it, thank you 👍. Time to start saving…might take a while 😂. Will also be interesting to see how the canformance controller handles the HP45

[@TheElectronicGeek1]

I've seen that electrical failure warning before on 1 series. Sometimes the TPMS module shorts out and causes a lot of problems. If you shake the TPMS and it rattles then that might be your problem. It's behind the rear left wheel (driver side for an LHD car)

[@Nico_335i_DCT]

Big congrats on your first drive Andrew. Dutch regards, Nico.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Many thanks!

[@65Coasty]

Great vid. Congrats on the install.
FYI my wife saw that car fly (literally) and land in the ditch. He was coming from Landsborough.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Damn!!! I didnt stop to have a look, but sounds like a typical Falcon driver :P

[@SouthernCrossMotors]

Great stuff…….and stuff this rain 🌧.
Enjoy your videos immensely. Had issues with my beastie and ended solving it after two days of head scratching.
The 28th looks good so hope to do some PBs at Willowbank.
Hope you solve these issues. Brilliant content 👍😎

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Thanks 👍

[@friguy4444]

Water world has nothing on you guys this whole year! Thanks for showing us the next step in sailing!

[@jasonking8812]

Been watching these turbolamik rather keenly I'm considering trying this in my e39 540i would you have any information on it or maybe you would consider doing one yourself

[@tiktikboom9380]

Can you put an 8hp90 into an e8x with that kit or would you need anything else?

[@trickster8635]

The money will be in the 79 series Toyota conversions. Suggest you collaborate with Zone Off Road South Africa, as they seem to be one step ahead of you and about to export conversions kits here to Oz. They have test drive mules, done the shifter, electronics etc. Don't know how they got around the flex-plate balance issue?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Not sure how they have done the flex plate. Mind you they are using a different transmission and controller. So end result will be a different driving experience not to mention ours does provide more control over the trans.

[@Mp-jw1qg]

i know someone who swapped 8hp45 for 8hp75 and the thing ran on the 8hp45 tune, not perfect but it works. have to shift it manually. the 45 drives much more smooth,, feels better, just is weak. i actually drove my e92 with the 8hp45 with htg unit and couldnt get the htg to work, thats how i found out about the great migration of customers over to lamik becasue htg didnt have open loop adaptations at the time, lamik did so i followed suit.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Spoke to Lamik last night, he said he will have a basemap for me soon. The maps are not compatible it seems.

[@MatthewGlad]

Great video have been waiting for some more!

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@tronn_carter]

Well done sir. Legendary stuff here

[@donneil26]

I'm assuming you can use the torque converter that comes with the 8hp45 without any modification on a e92 2006. Not sure if its the 6 bolt or 8 bolt. Also do you need the adapters for the oil lines?

[@dantem306]

Shout out to the BMW engineer that set you up for fitment success, that has to be intentional lmao

[@Juhkwez]

What’s all needed for the swap I wanna do it

[@alexschwartz8815]

your channel has awesome content! seems like its always raining lol

[@maxgr7723]

A nice video but a lot of rain...happily no tears - i was like all the time: please dont hit any of the e39😅 I'm glad it works and it really seems like super smooth! I'm curious what will be the fix for the autoshift. However I'd have tried to bring it into adaptation mode but probably it doesn't come up due to false torque calculations? Maybe the reason for missing Auto upshift too? Oh and thank you for showing the test result with the epoxy, was about to ask you on messenger 😅 ...BTW I'm curious where all the other lamik controllers will go😁

[@user-gl7bc5gw1e]

check the charging of the alternator, it can cause you these problems with electronics and even with shifting gears

[@stellavouxinc945]

How do you get in touch Lamik? They aren’t responding to my emails.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Unfortunately they are just getting smashed with enquiry. Its just a waiting game.

[@bimmertec]

Really great job new life for n54 awesome 👌 👏 God bless

[@nissejarnet]

Check the main +12 big wire going to the JBBE under the glovebox, that might be loose.
Maybe that is already fixed via a recall though.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Dude thank you. Its not like some muppet has just wedged a massive TCU wiring harness in that gap!

[@nissejarnet]

@@ZeroTo60Tube Lol :D

[@igotaction]

Have you heard anyone successfully swapping in a 8HP for N54 on stock TCM yet????

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Still havent heard of a full error free setup.

[@foodtuub]

nice mud bath to work with next time ....

[@mohamzeh86]

Does any 8hp45 bolt up to a rwd n54 or only 1st gen zf's due to starter location? Have a 135 myself and would love to do 8hp

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Specifically the one from a n55

[@user-gl7bc5gw1e]

wonderful work!;)

[@cptrey]

How much power is the 8hp45 good for compared to the 8hp70?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

So ZF rate them at 450nm vs 700nm for the 8hp70. However we know generally the boxes will take more than ZF rate them for. To be safe, i wouldnt expect it to hold any more power than a 6HP21. However at the back of my mind, i would also like to run 800hp through one.

[@pienaarkoot]

This is so cool.Would love to doe a 8hp on my e90 330d N57

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

You would need to go a 8hp70 for that weapon. But a 8hp70 from a F series 5 series diesel will bolt in to your car too. Basically the trans i put in our flow max car would be bolt in for you.

[@donwingchun]

Looks like you took a trip to the UK

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Im thinking of moving back to the UK to get some decent weather. LOL. Dont get me wrong, its not cold here, but its damp, humid, mould growing on everything. Australia is not made for this much water to be falling from the sky for so long.

[@BrokeMahWallet]

Impressive ✔️🔥

[@eddiecardona25]

How was the process to install the flywheels did you have to drill and weld like the hp70

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Bolt on, this car has the N54 flex plate, and it mounts straight to the 8hp45 torque converter, even using the N54 torque converter bolts.

[@davidholmes6936]

Hey Mate external temp sensor is cable tied to the front bar

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Hmmm i will see if its got a broken wire or something.

[@bimmertec]

Bro if any one sale dinan air box please let me know I am looking for

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Im not going to lie, i dislike it. I am all about dual pod filters.

[@mike_oe]

World's first 8HP45 auto to manual conversion 8HP45 :p

[@DreamWorkAutomotive]

Amazing work brother by the way what software are you using to tune BMW HP tuners does not give us support for BMW and that's all I have any recommendations i Tune LS engines but just got into the BMW game

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

MHD is the only way to go with N54s, the later model cars have a few options, but from what i learn speaking to various tuners. MHD or ECUtek is the way to go.

[@ATStone]

Time to find a random set of two wheels to put mud tires on? 😂

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Man, i just dont know how or why so much water keeps falling from the sky..... lol

[@Hilfiger1]

Things begging for a Ghassan G1400, with Precision 6870, Helix 4x extreme, Dual 535 LPFPs, and Ford 8.8 rear end.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Apart from the helix yes you’re right!

[@17t135i]

Bloody Rain!!

[@guillermolopez1690]

This looks like what I will be doing to my 6AT car. Do you think the Lamik controller would be able to control the trans while using a 3,000-4,000 rpm stall converter? Or will there be a software limitation on the oem TCU side of things?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

So with the lamik there is no limitation. Which is what makes it good. Any reason you want such a high stall? With all the gear ratios you dont need to launch from such a high RPM to get them off the line on power.

[@guillermolopez1690]

@@ZeroTo60Tube That’s great to know. It is a ST car so I want the high stall to launch while under boost. Looking at a PDS built 8hp45 with their high stall converter if it’s possible to keep the car happy while using it. Otherwise I’ll use a regular 8hp45 converter

[@maxgr7723]

@@guillermolopez1690 the jaguar 3.0sc converters should fit according to my sources and they are said to be one of the highest oem stalling converters too

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

@@guillermolopez1690 Ahhh yes, if you have a decent single that makes sense. My concern is you will end up needing to start in 3rd or 4th. This is just a vague incorrect example but the torque multiplication of 1st gear means, you could launch at 2000rpm with 5psi and have more torque making it to the wheels than 3rd gear 4000rpm and 15psi. This is something i really want to play with with the 8hp. Its different if you have a good prepped track. Just hit the rear tyres with all the power you can from the get go, but most of the time we dont have that surface. Our powerglide car would launch at 45000rpm, on 15psi and it would dead hook on a prepped track. But with that setup on the street, the car slower than a stock N54, becuase you either leave the line with no power and slipping converter, or you will blow the tyres off as soon as the converter bites at the high stall point. The 8 gears, really open you up to a new way of thinking with how to get the cars off the line quickly. With so many ratios, there is no excuse to be bogging off the line. Our flowmax car on the street, is fastest launching in 1st with less boost than the transbrake and 10psi. Becuase even with tyres that hook better than ET Street Rs, the car will just do a massive burnout with a 3000rpm launch at 10psi. Just something to keep in mind. The days of only setting the car up for a prepped track are done, i want something that will work on the street, or be able to flick a switch and different agression for hit and dial it in while on the street. A good place to start with research if people will share the info is how people launch the Hellcats between track and street. Mind you i bet anyone thats worked out how to make them quick in both scenarios my not share.

[@Hyngyynj]

Brilliant

[@alifffarhan8341]

Can it be done on e53 x5 5hp24?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

yes, will be about $12000 in parts if you are in australia

[@alifffarhan8341]

@@ZeroTo60Tube 8ho here is cheap tho.. In abundance

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

@@alifffarhan8341 here the 8hp70x is about $3000. But the complete conversion is not cheap.

[@zumiezskater122997]

Hmm so 8hp45 is a direct fit for the n54? Interesting

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Yeah, i assumed the bell housing was interchangeable, but surprised with how much actually bolted up.

[@alexgonzalez7395]

What torque converter?

[@AdznEVOIII]

What torque converter is used on this for the n54?

[@boccamokg1829]

Why does it start with D2 not D1?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

8hp in normal D mode start in second. In the flow max car, i have really only used 1st for launching, normal driving definitely not needed.

[@lancewood1410]

Awesome!😂

[@southsiden546]

Hi I’ve been watching your channel for such a long time! I truly wish if there is a way to get in touch with you regarding my 19t turbo N54! Just cannot figure out an issue. Please let me know a college kid truly desperate to figure it out as it’s my daily 🙏🏽

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Hey Haris, always feel free to post a comment. Alternatively the zeroto60 paid chat is where i will spend time helping people fix specific issues. I am sure you can appreciate i can hundreds of messages some days, so i have to dedicate time to the poeple that help zeroto60.

[@southsiden546]

@@ZeroTo60Tube hi thank you so much for the response! Where can I find this chat. I completely understand and hope to join as I truly need help!!

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

@@southsiden546 there should be a join button in every video description. The G members, the zeroto60 chat are a huge difference to us being able to afford to do this and all proper petrol heads.

[@southsiden546]

@@ZeroTo60Tube I’m most likely an airhead deprived if sleep 😅 I can’t find the link in the description! Is it the first one going to the site?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

@@southsiden546 th-cam.com/channels/tEQM9eop5tRO-eWN6-AQwQ.htmljoin/join

[@maderpl1]

that turbolamik display and mode selector is hideous.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

No argument here. But it is easy to read and easy to hit. Not unhappy with it, for what it costs, but would pay more money for a newer style OLED display

[@anthonydavis5993]

Maybe pave or grave your driveway? Just saying.... Lol

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Well considering we dont own the place and are getting evicted, probably not worth spending the $20k plus to do that lol

[@anthonydavis5993]

@@ZeroTo60Tube I guess not....

[@maksymstebelskyi4798]

Lol in ukraine and russia they do this for over 2 years now

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

That's interesting, the controller is Polish. Which has been around for quite a few years. But i haven seen a 8hp45 in a 135i. Got some info on the ones you have seen, like what controller they are using etc?