Probably millions... dang! Ive seen one of those sticks in my granfathers barn, never knew what it was or what it was for. Had i known id have rescued it 30 years ago. What an art. Great video
The weather you are having in this video is what it’s like most of the winter in the lowlands of western Washington and Oregon. Dreary. I guess I’ll take it over 2-3 feet of snow that never melts.
So is this where the saying "I got the short end of the stick" derived from??? Every part of the timber industry has always been both tight numbers and hard work. Measuring or weighing...someone is going to feel shorted no matter how fair most try to be. Thanks for doing another one of these scaling videos. I had actually gone back looking for the older one and couldn't find it last fall.👍
I'll be looking forward to when you get Ken a processor to operate. If it what I think it is then I'd have to get moving myself. Just need this ground to freeze up. - Tyler
It will be cool to see Ken get to use the 40c before it lands in your woodyard. Nice explanation of scaling. I have a different method. It’s simply that’s a crap ton of hard maple🤣 👍🏻👍🏻GNI
@InTheWoodyard I was making an oak cabinet. Things were not working out. All of the pieces were not fitting together. Then I realized that the two sides of the framing square I was using were different. One was in 16ths of an inch. The other was in tenths, which I just assumed was in 1/8 increments. It was in tenths. Duct tape went on the tenth side. Now when I purchase a framing square I check thst both sides are the same.
Chris, my son and I brought home two truckloads of very sappy snap-crackle-pop pine today for firewood and got some sap on our coats and gloves. How do you get pine tree sap out of your clothes and off of your gloves?
@@OOOOOO12345 What we did was rub liquid Tide into all of the spots and let them soak a few hours, Then I rinsed the spots out and put liquid Tide on again and let that soak a day or two. Washed the clothes and the gloves on the hottest setting, and it all came out. I also took care not to run any of it through the dryer until I knew we had all the sap off.
Hi Chris...just watched some of you and Ken's beaver videos. I noticed you use a combination of coil springs and double long spring foot traps. What size and brands do you use? Are the body grips all 330's or do you use some 280's as well?
Ken that close another on cords . My semi take 21.95 to 23.85 pre / trip on cords . Iiiii iiii delivery it to your yard for $135.00 per cords . Good guy on a chainsaw use to put up 9 to 11 cords a day . Now chainsaw are almost in the pass . Chainsaw are use on big time logging big timber ken . The bigger the timber iiiii iiiii like best load the semi in half the time them playing with 16” 18 “ stuff . 😊remember stick on the ice , saw in the wood 🪵 and rubber on the road . Think 🤔 safety and always put safety first in the forest 🌳. SAFETY is in # the forest .
When i get logs delivered they typically vary in length from about 10' to 30'. Most being about 25'. How do i scale the pile when none of the logs are the same length? I can get the Length of the pile and the average height, but what about width of the pile? Sorry if this is a dumb question.
@@InTheWoodyard I found a way to do it. I made a short video. Check it out if you have time. Basically, find the number of cords per log. Sample as many logs as is practical. I did 10 ignoring short pieces and the stringers. That will give you an average number of cords per log. Multiply by the number of logs in the pile. Again, not counting any really short pieces. Let me know what you think. Thanks!
Very interesting, but clarify the cost for me. How do you pay $100 per cord for logs and still make a profit after bucking, splitting, storing and having your money tied up for a year while drying?
Kenny's $100 cord produces from 2.25-2.5 face cords of firewood at $80 per.🤔I think Chris paid around $120 per cord X 2.25-2.5 and sells around $120 per facecord. My fuzzy math says they gross $200-300 per cord minus expenses minus time minus storing minus money tied up.
@@InTheWoodyard I recently cut and split my first cord of wood. For fun. If I NEEDED firewood I would gladly pay $400+ a cord, not to do it. That was brutal hard work and I was sore for days.
Why does the formula use divide by 16 if the log is 100" and not 96"🤨another short end of the stick or does it account for the bark loss once debarked at the Mill?🤔 Does Kenny's 2.25 cord guy not take into consideration the cookies and boiler wood drop when he calculated his firewood scale.? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?🤪🤔
I could listen to you two talking wood all day long & not get bored. My brother passed last year. I miss the chats.
Thanks for watching!
Watched people scale trucks in the pulpwood industry, never learned how. Thanks for the information. Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day
Thanks, you too!
Good morning Chris and good morning to all the woodyard
Hello!
Probably millions... dang!
Ive seen one of those sticks in my granfathers barn, never knew what it was or what it was for. Had i known id have rescued it 30 years ago.
What an art. Great video
Thanks for watching!
G’morning Chris. Awesome to see the old way from an old timer. A new, fresh technique is due for Ken. Processor and bin dumping.
GoodNightIrene
Yup, thanks, maybe so!
I always enjoy watching when you guys get together. I wish i got aling with my brother that well
We do well together for sure. Thanks
Learning video good video on measuring logs,raining 3 days no snow good think in Massachusetts
Thanks for watching!
Good morning my woodsmen friends from Florida.
Morning!
The dynamic duo! I was wondering what happened to the first video.This was very helpful. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Always get a smile watching Ken and yourself in the wood yard! Appreciate your great content, maybe a 40C?
Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Fantastic info, the older I get the more I realise I dont know. Thanks Ken and Chris. Cheers from H B N Z
Me too, there is a lot to learn!
The weather you are having in this video is what it’s like most of the winter in the lowlands of western Washington and Oregon. Dreary. I guess I’ll take it over 2-3 feet of snow that never melts.
Yup, it has been awesome so far!
Always enjoy the banter between you and Ken
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for walking us through again. Don't know what the issue was with the last video, but this was still helpful. 😉👍
Thanks Daniel!
Good one Kenny & Chris! I would say that common sense lends itself to a Japa 400 series. Best processor for small logs like that! Len (Devon 🇬🇧)
Yup, they are nice machines.
Awesome vid that day Chris! 🔥💯👍. See you soon! Andrew from NB :)
Thanks a bunch!
Al way love the videos with your brother!!
Thanks!
Cool video Chris. That is interesting for sure. I've never been around anyone scaling a pile of wood. Thanks. - Tim
Thanks for watching!
So is this where the saying "I got the short end of the stick" derived from???
Every part of the timber industry has always been both tight numbers and hard work. Measuring or weighing...someone is going to feel shorted no matter how fair most try to be.
Thanks for doing another one of these scaling videos. I had actually gone back looking for the older one and couldn't find it last fall.👍
Maybe so!
We always said "I got the s**t end of the stick".
I learned a bunch on this one. 👍You guy's are super entertaining and informative GREAT video ❤😎
Thanks for watching!
This is educational Ken I appreciate it, thank you Chris for this video. Keep on cutting
Thanks for watching!
I remembered last years snow ❄️
Yup,l it was deep and lasted long!
I gotta get me a scale stick like that to keep in the truck. Way better than a tape measure on those firewood deliveries!
You got that right!
Chris and Ken hiho hiho it’s a logging we go 😮awesome video 😊❤
Thank you 🤗
Morning guys just wanted to get on and thank both of you for taking the time to learn us a thing.., keep up the great content 👍🏻✌🏻
Thanks for watching!
Thanks guys for that video. I’m gunna try that on our pile. But with a measuring tape. Don’t have the fancy stick. 👋👍🏻
Go for it!
Great info fellas! Chris I think Kenny wants you to get him a processor!!😂
Yup, he wines about it a lot!
I'll be looking forward to when you get Ken a processor to operate. If it what I think it is then I'd have to get moving myself. Just need this ground to freeze up. - Tyler
Yup, all wood yards are pudding now!
It will be cool to see Ken get to use the 40c before it lands in your woodyard. Nice explanation of scaling. I have a different method. It’s simply that’s a crap ton of hard maple🤣 👍🏻👍🏻GNI
Sounds good! I like crap tons!
Great Info. Measuring in tenths is interesting.
Glad you think so!
@InTheWoodyard I was making an oak cabinet. Things were not working out. All of the pieces were not fitting together. Then I realized that the two sides of the framing square I was using were different. One was in 16ths of an inch. The other was in tenths, which I just assumed was in 1/8 increments. It was in tenths. Duct tape went on the tenth side. Now when I purchase a framing square I check thst both sides are the same.
good info ..thanks ! Chris once you get Ken a processor and talk him into "the bin method" instead of stacking, he's going to be in woodyard heaven !
Thanks for the tip!
🤘Great tutorial as was the first one. I’m pretty ignorant on this stuff. So curious what the complaint was. Good work Boys!
I wish I could say, but no. Thanks!
Thanks for the great info guys keep it going love it, big wood or go home .
Thanks!
Very interesting how to measure the pile. And the stick at the top measures at the bottom so you can read the numbers.
Thanks for watching!
Lubrication is everything. Tell Kenny to spit on his stick!!😎
Okay, I will do that!
Good morning Chris @ Ken Have a good day ty for video ( Ron
Good morning!
Great video. He seems like he can be really grumpy lol
Thanks. Ken is a black and white kind of guy...just the facts.
Nice video guys. Out in the woods, a trade is a trade and keeps the govmt out of the deal.
GNI
Yup!
Nice information. Sure hasn’t been much of a winter here
Yup, very mild! Very nice!!
You about right on the log cord to firewood cord loss. I've cut hundreds of cords of 8ft firewood and found on average about 20% loss
Yup, I agree!
Morning Chris, just starting video thanks I wanna learn how to scale so thanks
You can do it!
Yes I hope to buy logs in next couple years so I need a know I'm not getting ripped off,it seems simple thank you both
Chris, my son and I brought home two truckloads of very sappy snap-crackle-pop pine today for firewood and got some sap on our coats and gloves. How do you get pine tree sap out of your clothes and off of your gloves?
Try wd40 it works to get tar off.
Good question! I would just consider it a work coat now! Maybe gas??? And then air outside for a few days them wash??
WD-40 works or any other type of petroleum product will do the job.
@@OOOOOO12345 What we did was rub liquid Tide into all of the spots and let them soak a few hours, Then I rinsed the spots out and put liquid Tide on again and let that soak a day or two. Washed the clothes and the gloves on the hottest setting, and it all came out. I also took care not to run any of it through the dryer until I knew we had all the sap off.
Hi Chris...just watched some of you and Ken's beaver videos. I noticed you use a combination of coil springs and double long spring foot traps. What size and brands do you use? Are the body grips all 330's or do you use some 280's as well?
All 330s we prefer Bridgers and we have a lot of brands #3-#5 and all styles.
Ken that close another on cords . My semi take 21.95 to 23.85 pre / trip on cords . Iiiii iiii delivery it to your yard for $135.00 per cords . Good guy on a chainsaw use to put up 9 to 11 cords a day . Now chainsaw are almost in the pass . Chainsaw are use on big time logging big timber ken . The bigger the timber iiiii iiiii like best load the semi in half the time them playing with 16” 18 “ stuff . 😊remember stick on the ice , saw in the wood 🪵 and rubber on the road . Think 🤔 safety and always put safety first in the forest 🌳. SAFETY is in # the forest .
Okay.
Do I see a brute force processor in the future at Ken’s
That would be nice!
The mystery of where Andrew was going to send the 40 C may have been solved 🇺🇸
That's what I was thinking too.
I think it is still a mystery.
keep thinking.
@@InTheWoodyard 🤣🤣
That pile of wood is a lot of wood.
Yup!
When i get logs delivered they typically vary in length from about 10' to 30'. Most being about 25'. How do i scale the pile when none of the logs are the same length? I can get the Length of the pile and the average height, but what about width of the pile? Sorry if this is a dumb question.
Good luck with that! Some kind of uniformity is needed ...hard to measure. I would doubt the accuracy of the logger or truck driver too!
@@InTheWoodyard I will let you know if I figure out a way to do it.
@@InTheWoodyard I found a way to do it. I made a short video. Check it out if you have time. Basically, find the number of cords per log. Sample as many logs as is practical. I did 10 ignoring short pieces and the stringers. That will give you an average number of cords per log. Multiply by the number of logs in the pile. Again, not counting any really short pieces. Let me know what you think. Thanks!
Very interesting, but clarify the cost for me. How do you pay $100 per cord for logs and still make a profit after bucking, splitting, storing and having your money tied up for a year while drying?
Kenny's $100 cord produces from 2.25-2.5 face cords of firewood at $80 per.🤔I think Chris paid around $120 per cord X 2.25-2.5 and sells around $120 per facecord. My fuzzy math says they gross $200-300 per cord minus expenses minus time minus storing minus money tied up.
It's a slow and low turnaround but that's how it goes
Yup, I pay $100ish (some times...free) a full log cord and get 2.5 face cords at $120 each so $300 in sales leaves me $200ish
@@InTheWoodyard I recently cut and split my first cord of wood. For fun. If I NEEDED firewood I would gladly pay $400+ a cord, not to do it. That was brutal hard work and I was sore for days.
Our wood is going for around $124 per cord here in NY
A cord? Maybe a face cord.
@@mw1130 that price is our cost per cord.
We buy log length firewood
log cord ....right?
got it!
Compared to scribner scale.
Thats like learning the metric system.
Though WAY faster.
it is easy.
Good morning all!
Good morning!
interesting segment. Kenny is pretty good at cyphering.....lol.
Thanks, he took lessons from Jethrow.
Thanks Guys.. Get Cuttin...
Yup, we will!
40° F rainy, dreary, foggy... Here in Ashville Ohio tday... Good day to drink hot coffee!!
Thanks for watching!
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Thanks!!!
morning folks
Hello!
Sorry . CHRIS .Could not read that maker of stick. Can u put it in show details please .
I think I read it off as I showed it. I do not have the stick with me now, maybe re-watch that part??
Why does the formula use divide by 16 if the log is 100" and not 96"🤨another short end of the stick or does it account for the bark loss once debarked at the Mill?🤔 Does Kenny's 2.25 cord guy not take into consideration the cookies and boiler wood drop when he calculated his firewood scale.? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?🤪🤔
Lots of good questions
I think the 100" is so no log is to short for a 8' board and allows for trimming ends??? Maybe so. 1379 1/2
Groovy Baby 10-4
Thanks Dave!
When I halled nys 117 permit could hall 120400
nice
Good Morning Woodhounds!! Runnin late tday... get to spend a little time with the grandkids... Have a Great Day Folks!
Thanks!!
6:31 did he say heighth?
Maybe ???
I smell a 40c coming
Really, all I smell is Kens gas!
WD 40 would work on that stick 😎
Maybe so.
@@InTheWoodyard Ski Wax LOL....
I'll take a processor
Go get one, you will ,like it!
The Kenn
yup!
If you want a measuring tape in 10ths of a foot, just buy an engineers tape measure.
Can they reach up 16' and be read at eye level like the sticks made for scaling logs that have been used for decades by the professionals?
If you know how to use a tape measure you can figure it out. And, it can fit in you pocket.@@InTheWoodyard
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Thanks!
I don't like perfect people
okay?