Your sons a lucky lad. Not only a free car but free leccy I expect, can't believe hes 17 now. You should consider a video of handing over the keys, followed by him selling it and getting a hideous cheap diesel and pocketing the cash!! As for your next EV maybe the soon to be released MG4 performance?
A quick update. Used EV prices have crashed. My own 30kWh Leaf has gone from £14500 to around £7600 in value over the last few months. A quick Cazoo valuation on Ian's Zoe has it now valued at £7575, a little over half of the value mentioned in the video. It seems like supplies of new EVs has opened up, lots of cars are now coming of lease deals and the anti EV noise is working and putting people off. Slapping road tax onto EVs also seems to have had a disproportionate effect. For most people, you will do most of your driving at home. Get the right tariff and you will still be able to enjoy motoring at around 2 to 3p per mile🙂. Public charging is much more, but still comparable to a very efficient petrol or diesel on a good day on a long run. Overall, most people will still be much better off with an EV and wont be pumping out pollutants from the exhaust.
Cazoo seems to get confused with 1. 22kwh and 2. Battery owned or leased. The 41kwh, QUICK charge, battery owned like mine is circa £12-£14 currently on autotrader, such as: www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303034861267 The ads certainly dont help as never clear on battery owned, or even sometimes battery kwh! Minefield.
Leaf is way better than Renault zoe. My leaf just did its 7th MOT no single fault. Leaf built quality and reliability is hard to match. Yes battery chemistry could be poor but its fall down to where and how its been used. I still got 81.35% SOH.11bars. 2013 Registered Japan leaf. Amazing and going strong
I remember the early videos. Think £14K is a bit optimistic - GT Line R135 50kwh are circa £16K I know some have issues with safety changes, but all are battery included. Your's is battery included not lease unlike many at the time but buying out a lease is not such an issue or major cost as it once was. I'm considering either as I don't do that many long journeys and 120 miles of range would be fine.
Yours is a 67 plate, so it's 5 years old. I also have a 67 plate ZE40 nearing 50,000 miles, and I agree with everything you say - it's a great utility car, and the headlights are rubbish! Mine's cost me nothing more than tyres and servicing, but Renault put a new motor in under warranty (excessive whining due to worn brushes) which cost them over 3 grand! I think your valuation is optimistic, you can get 2yo ZE50s for 16k now, so I guess ours are more like 11 or 12. Your son is still getting a massive bargain! :) I'm interested to see what you get next - I'd like something with a bit more space and range (and CCS charging), but the 64kWh Kias are still over 20k and I don't really fancy an MG5.
@@IanSampsonRLO yea love it so far.. Only reason I could afford it was because the zoe trade in price was so good.. Only Downside so far is a odd clunk sound from the back sometimes but read that's common and no heat pump.. Which shocked me.. Part from that.. Miles better than the zoe for features and drives great.... I look forward to see what you pick next.
We are on our 2nd Zoe the first one was battery owned & went up in value in the 2 years we owned it by 10%. We have 4 BEVs in the family, all doing long journeys frequently, we love them. Someone made a comment about NCAP in the comments, which I think says more about NCAP than it does about Zoes!
@@IanSampsonRLO Yes indeed same in the US most used EVs have significantly dropped in value my timing was good buying a 2013 Fiat 500e with 70,000 miles in 2019 for a mere $5000 ( ~ £4100 ) The average selling price today for the same model even with the now 80,000 miles on the clock is around $7000 ( £5700). Possibly more for my model as it is the particularly sought after colour = spangled orange with white interior.
I’ve got a feeling that you’ll choose a Tesla M3, since they’ve recently been reduced in price. Your son is definitely a lucky lad, though have you checked the cost of insurance? Adding my daughter as a learner to my Honda e more than quadruples my premium and none of the temporary insurance companies will offer a price, so she’s been learning in my 2001 Toyota MR2 😂. I recommend looking into temp insurance for your son each time you take him out in your own car(s) as it’s only been £5-7 for 2-4 hours each time to add my daughter.
@@IanSampsonRLO I’ve found Veygo to be the best for our circumstances. I just set it up 15-30 mins before we head out but you can arrange for it to start as soon as pay or for a future day. Do a check beforehand on your reg as I’ve twice had to email support and get cars added to their database.
I forgot to mention you’ll also need to have insurance on the Zoe under someone else’s name and not your son’s for most temp learner insurance, but you’ll probably be surprised how cheap it could be. I’ve got 3 cars separately insured and only 1 has full NCD at £250, whilst the other 2 have no NCD, one cost me £100, the other £175 pa.
@@IanSampsonRLO You're right! I definitely didn't expect another E-NV200!! Looks like the perfect family car/van. Similar in some ways to my old FIAT Multipla in how versatile it is.
They had you hook line and sinker on the wish bone ball joint. £800!!! Why wasn’t it a warranty claim along with the leaking rear slave cylinder?? Yes undercarriage is mk4 Clio.
I wonder if you are buying new or slightly used..... Used, I'd rate an Ioniq 38 for range and efficiency (and I lot of people wouldn't guess that) albeit a very slow rapid charge speed. New? Since you didn't say 'car', it's probably van. Maxis? (But should be an Energica motorcycle.)
I know you like a bargain and flexible space to throw crap in the boot and cart around the dog and stuff for work. I’m betting MG5, possibly a second hand one,
With lad mobile, you're not going to need a big car. I'm going to say Fiat 500e. You got an absolute bargain at £16250. Prices have just gone stratospheric since then on new EVs.
Thanks for checking in, Ian. Glad you and Zoe are doing well.
Thanks!
Your sons a lucky lad. Not only a free car but free leccy I expect, can't believe hes 17 now. You should consider a video of handing over the keys, followed by him selling it and getting a hideous cheap diesel and pocketing the cash!! As for your next EV maybe the soon to be released MG4 performance?
A quick update. Used EV prices have crashed. My own 30kWh Leaf has gone from £14500 to around £7600 in value over the last few months. A quick Cazoo valuation on Ian's Zoe has it now valued at £7575, a little over half of the value mentioned in the video. It seems like supplies of new EVs has opened up, lots of cars are now coming of lease deals and the anti EV noise is working and putting people off. Slapping road tax onto EVs also seems to have had a disproportionate effect. For most people, you will do most of your driving at home. Get the right tariff and you will still be able to enjoy motoring at around 2 to 3p per mile🙂. Public charging is much more, but still comparable to a very efficient petrol or diesel on a good day on a long run. Overall, most people will still be much better off with an EV and wont be pumping out pollutants from the exhaust.
Cazoo seems to get confused with 1. 22kwh and 2. Battery owned or leased.
The 41kwh, QUICK charge, battery owned like mine is circa £12-£14 currently on autotrader, such as:
www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303034861267
The ads certainly dont help as never clear on battery owned, or even sometimes battery kwh! Minefield.
Hold on to it it will pick up again if Ulez is forced on every one
Nice to see you back.👍👍👍🚘🚘🚘
Thanks 👍
Oh no, a new vehicle teaser... :) Great to see you Ian, I remember when you bought the Zoe.
Cheers, welcome back!
Leaf is way better than Renault zoe. My leaf just did its 7th MOT no single fault. Leaf built quality and reliability is hard to match. Yes battery chemistry could be poor but its fall down to where and how its been used. I still got 81.35% SOH.11bars. 2013 Registered Japan leaf. Amazing and going strong
I remember the early videos. Think £14K is a bit optimistic - GT Line R135 50kwh are circa £16K I know some have issues with safety changes, but all are battery included. Your's is battery included not lease unlike many at the time but buying out a lease is not such an issue or major cost as it once was. I'm considering either as I don't do that many long journeys and 120 miles of range would be fine.
Legend always great facts 👍
Cheers!
Great video as always Ian, have a great weekend 😊👍🌹
You too!
Yours is a 67 plate, so it's 5 years old. I also have a 67 plate ZE40 nearing 50,000 miles, and I agree with everything you say - it's a great utility car, and the headlights are rubbish!
Mine's cost me nothing more than tyres and servicing, but Renault put a new motor in under warranty (excessive whining due to worn brushes) which cost them over 3 grand!
I think your valuation is optimistic, you can get 2yo ZE50s for 16k now, so I guess ours are more like 11 or 12. Your son is still getting a massive bargain! :)
I'm interested to see what you get next - I'd like something with a bit more space and range (and CCS charging), but the 64kWh Kias are still over 20k and I don't really fancy an MG5.
With the repairs its not so much the labour but the parts are so expensive with Renault, if you can get them with older fuel cars.
Just got my first ever ev it's
a kia e Niro 64khw base 2
model love it to bit's new shape.
Congratulations!
glad the zoe still going well.. i trade my zoe r90 in seen the trade in value is so good and got my self the renault megane e-tech.
How you getting on with the megane?
@@IanSampsonRLO yea love it so far.. Only reason I could afford it was because the zoe trade in price was so good.. Only Downside so far is a odd clunk sound from the back sometimes but read that's common and no heat pump.. Which shocked me.. Part from that.. Miles better than the zoe for features and drives great.... I look forward to see what you pick next.
We are on our 2nd Zoe the first one was battery owned & went up in value in the 2 years we owned it by 10%. We have 4 BEVs in the family, all doing long journeys frequently, we love them. Someone made a comment about NCAP in the comments, which I think says more about NCAP than it does about Zoes!
Up in value is a new one, one of the benfits of timing I guess! You have the 50kwh version now?
@@IanSampsonRLO Yes indeed same in the US most used EVs have significantly dropped in value my timing was good buying a 2013 Fiat 500e with 70,000 miles in 2019 for a mere $5000 ( ~ £4100 ) The average selling price today for the same model even with the now 80,000 miles on the clock is around $7000 ( £5700). Possibly more for my model as it is the particularly sought after colour = spangled orange with white interior.
Failed on your number plates? Where they not secure.
Front ball joints and wishbones are Clio parts so they cost pennies, beware of ripoffs😊
Good to know!
I’ve got a feeling that you’ll choose a Tesla M3, since they’ve recently been reduced in price.
Your son is definitely a lucky lad, though have you checked the cost of insurance? Adding my daughter as a learner to my Honda e more than quadruples my premium and none of the temporary insurance companies will offer a price, so she’s been learning in my 2001 Toyota MR2 😂. I recommend looking into temp insurance for your son each time you take him out in your own car(s) as it’s only been £5-7 for 2-4 hours each time to add my daughter.
Which temp insurance are you using out of interest, that sounds pretty good idea!
@@IanSampsonRLO I’ve found Veygo to be the best for our circumstances. I just set it up 15-30 mins before we head out but you can arrange for it to start as soon as pay or for a future day.
Do a check beforehand on your reg as I’ve twice had to email support and get cars added to their database.
I forgot to mention you’ll also need to have insurance on the Zoe under someone else’s name and not your son’s for most temp learner insurance, but you’ll probably be surprised how cheap it could be. I’ve got 3 cars separately insured and only 1 has full NCD at £250, whilst the other 2 have no NCD, one cost me £100, the other £175 pa.
What happened to the Honda? Was it borrowed and had to be returned?
Sold to help with house move.
What were the number plate failures, damaged / obscured?
Dirt ingress on the rear one and small piece snapped off on front corner.
I reckon the MG 4 is your next car. 😉
Close....no cigar :)
@@IanSampsonRLO You're right! I definitely didn't expect another E-NV200!! Looks like the perfect family car/van. Similar in some ways to my old FIAT Multipla in how versatile it is.
@@matthewjburt6482 yeah very versatile.
Your getting a Ford E Transit? 🤔
If they did a 5 or 7 seater that would be epic (and for a good price)
We are a two ev household. Model Y and mini Cooper SE. I will guess model 3. Just for fun
How you getting on with the Model Y?
We aim to get an EV as a 2nd car soon & as a local runabout but it won't be a Zoe due to the lack of NCAP rating.
What do you think you will get?
They had you hook line and sinker on the wish bone ball joint.
£800!!!
Why wasn’t it a warranty claim along with the leaking rear slave cylinder??
Yes undercarriage is mk4 Clio.
Front Anti-Roll Bar Link x2 £40
Front Lower Wishbone x2 £100
Tyres 195/55/16 x2 £140
Tracking £45
Labour 4 hours £340
+ MOT £54.85
£852
@@IanSampsonRLO makes more sense. 👍
I wonder if you are buying new or slightly used..... Used, I'd rate an Ioniq 38 for range and efficiency (and I lot of people wouldn't guess that) albeit a very slow rapid charge speed. New? Since you didn't say 'car', it's probably van. Maxis? (But should be an Energica motorcycle.)
Used :) Good guessing for sure.....you are right with the van :)
Lower ball joints appear designed to fail on all Zoe’s
Swap to led lights , much better
I know you like a bargain and flexible space to throw crap in the boot and cart around the dog and stuff for work.
I’m betting MG5, possibly a second hand one,
Your right…apart from the car 😁
Headlights are the absolute worst thing about this car, ZE50 LED lights are awesome in comparison.
Yeah, you would have thought they would have tested the lights....at night ha ha
With lad mobile, you're not going to need a big car.
I'm going to say Fiat 500e.
You got an absolute bargain at £16250. Prices have just gone stratospheric since then on new EVs.
Nice guess...but the wrong way in terms of size ;)
@@IanSampsonRLO haha. Yes, completely the wrong way.
orca cat
Couple of people have said that. I had never heard of it! What a cute little car!
Ora cat
To small, looks nice though
Not for this price..