eDRUMin 10 Review | Audiofront eDRUMin Trigger To MIDI Interface
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- In-depth review of the Audiofront eDRUMin 10 electronic drum trigger to MIDI interface. I was kindly leant this 10 input eDRUMin unit by viewer Stephen Mackrill and I sorta don't want to send it back...
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00:00 - Introduction to the eDRUMin
04:23 - The Software
13:22 - Unique Features
17:23 - USB Hosting
20:34 - Verdict & Who Is It For?
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I'm really impressed with your work, Luke. The way you introduce the product, describe the key features, and demonstrate their use clearly shows you put a lot of thought and effort into this review.--much appreciated. I posted some links in the eDRUMin forum.
Thank you 🙏 I knew after a little bit of use that it was going to need a pretty in-depth look to do it justice so I'm glad that came across!
@herbert bourne I'm sure you guys are overwhelmed by the response. Any updates in production/stock/etc. Is there a waiting list were we can sign in? Are you considering a GOFUNDME campaign so you can cope with the demand and keep in touch with potential buyers? This thing you've created: GAMECHANGING
@audiofront Fantastic product!!! Is it possible to prepay for the out of stock unit? I NEED this thing! LOL
Yes, well put together video minus unnecessary fluff. It helped to cement my decision to purchase the ed10. Thanks for the video!
Eta on more 10s? 😄
thank you for this video! until i saw this i didn't fully realize the possibility of dropping my drum module. several weeks later, i have made the transition to EDrumin + Superior Drummer 3. since i have never worked with MIDI before, this was a BIG learning curve, but ultimately very rewarding!
I've had my edrumin 10 for about a year now and I'm glad I have it. It may be a bit frustrating to get things dialed in sometimes, but having so many options to dial in my drums how I want has been incredible.
I'm glad these products exist. I've been using an Alesis Command module, but only to trigger samples in Bitwig. It's served its purpose, but found it limiting, now that I'm I building a hybrid kit. So now I finally ordered a MegaDrum, a similar product that's been out for quite a while, but even more niche than the eDRUMin or the DDTI. Definitely looking forward to having 27 dual-zone inputs instead of 5.
I’m in the process of starting to converting my acoustic kit to electric with triggers. Your channel has been immensely helpful and I’m grateful.
Glad to help. Thank you 🙏
Wow! This was an eye opener for me… first I’ve heard of this product… I’m only interested in accurate trigger control for Superior Drummer 3 for recording with no standalone sounds. Thanks for the very comprehensive pro and con review. Good job 👍
After a long time of waiting my eDrumin 10 is on its way!! I'm so excited!
Awesome! Have fun!
You are VERY good at simply explaining topics that might be somewhat intimidating to some..keep it up.
Great review. I own an edrumin 10 and I love it. Yes, you do need some knowledge VSTs, Midi, and how drum brains work but, as the author says, this is all learnable stuff. I use it with Steven Slate Drums and kit composed of Alesis and Roland drum triggers, and Aegean low volume cymbals. It's a joy to play because the edrumin works so well. It won't absolutely eliminate absolutely all your triggering problems since some of that is due to the triggers themselves, but it does an amazing job.
Great review...opens a world of possibilities and alternative to sourcing a new module...sounds are spot on...🍒
Hey! Just got notification that the eDRUMin10 is *finally* back in stock and I JUST completed my order. So now I think it's safe to spread the word. 🙂
I really hope Mr. Jonkman continues to keep up the fine work. My little eDRUMin4 has been a real workhorse but I really need the ports & USB host mode, so my eDRUMin10 is going to be quite welcome!!
Thanks, your excellent review has helped me determine that an eDRUMin 10 is a far more affordable and functional choice than a full drum module, as I will be doing an electronic conversion of an acoustic kit and exclusively triggering VI sounds on a Mac (e.g. SSD5).
Thanks so much for such a clean and indepth explanation mate! The Edrumin just became available today again, so I grabbed one. Super stoked to ditch my DTX 700 module.
Thanks for watching! Awesome, really glad they're available again and that you managed to grab one!
Top class video Luke , as always I am impressed by your in depth approach.
Thanks Bruce 🙏
BEST VIDEO YET!!!!
(of course I am biased eh?) But seriously and objectively speaking, excellent review. You explained some things to me about it that I was't aware of. Excellent stuff Luke!
Haha! Glad you liked it man! Definitely a great product.
Great overview of this product. Looks like a real winner. Thanks for your efforts and clear presentation!
Thanks for watching!
I agree and I love my eDRUMin 10 so much, I bought another, just to keep under my pillow at night. In all seriousness, I'll keep one connected to my home/studio kit, and one in my bag for gigs.
Outstanding review. Really! I had never heard of Audiofront before. But, you sir, sold me on it. I had to subscribe. Bravo!
Thank you! Yeah, I'll be picking one up myself in the future!
Wow I just found out about this product today, thanks for the in-depth review, this looks amazing. I have a pretty cool frankenstein drumkit which started out as a super basic Hart Dynamics (RIP) kit that I've added pieces to over the years. But I'm still going through an old Alesis DM5 module into my PC to trigger various VSTs (mostly AD2 and NI kits). The DM5 works well enough just as a trigger module, but it's very limiting. This edrumin gear looks like exactly what I need to be able to expand further and exploit the additional features of my sample libraries that I don't really get to enjoy.
This was a really great review, thank you.
Awesome approach, Bro. Thanks!
I don't understand why your channel only has 4k subscribers... wealth of info on your channel is top notch.
Thank you! Takes some time to build things up, I guess. Will keep on going though!
Fantastic review, thank you
Fantastic video, Luke. Earlier today I went out to the Audio Front site because I wanted to download the manual for this amazing little box, and wouldn't you know it! For the eDrumIn 10, the little blurb stating "Out of Stock. Get Notified," instead had a yellow "Add to Cart" button. You think I didn't whip out my wallet and purchase one most ricky-tick! Needless to say, I won't have to wait until March 2024 to get my hands on one!
Needless to say. I did check the site again about 30 minutes after I purchased mine and they had sold out again. If people want one, I suggest that they religiously check the site a few times a day because over the past two weeks, this is the second batch that has went on sale.
What a great catch! Definitely seems like a good idea to keep checking in. I hope you enjoy it.
I have the original (smaller) edrumin and love it. Your review is dead-on. The software is incredibly useful if you have a mix of pad types/manufacturers. I'll be picking up the 10port version soon. (When gigs start up again...)
Thanks! And yeah, totally - that software is something else in terms of flexibility and detail!
Very very nice work.
That is an impressive piece of gear!
Seen it and I love the idea of connecting to this to my TD17 (Without a PC) to expand pads in a live situation. My only concern is getting the best sounds (like the ones you can purchase from your site)!
Appreciate this! 👊👊🍻
Great review. I also interested with Ddrum Trigger Interface DDTI. Still no full review about it on youtube. 66Samus did use it but only to trigger his drum without using the cymbal and hihat control. It would be great if you can give a full review about it as the price is also quite cheap. Thanks in advance. 👍
I am having a great day, thanks Luke 😂
Thanks Luke, another great and very detailed review. For me it'll be the way of reasonably limitless future expansion for SD3 VST, Mimic and digital pads. It would be very interesting to know your and Rob"s thoughts on MIDI 2 that I keep hearing about and whether this will be a future implementation on the eDRUMin product.
Thank you for watching! Yeah, absolutely - I'll be picking one up when they're back in stock.
As for MIDI 2.0 - to be honest, I've not done that much reading up on it but I've yet to see much of an advantage over the current MIDI standard for eDrums specifically. For velocity and position, we don't need more than 128 values as it's imperceptible. But I really ought to fully look into it as there's probably some stuff I'm missing.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Thank you for your reply Luke. Since then I have done some in depth looking at Midi 2 and I can see some advantages for more sensitive human expression down the line not least for CC info etc.
I was wondering if you became aware of less latency going from eDrumin trigger to your VST rather than sending from Mimic or Roland modules ? as from my TD50 triggereing of SD3 I have round trip latency down to 1.5ms but I can feel that as opposed to directly triggering and monitoring from the Mimic or Roland. I noticed also that you use a BT1 for Xstick and was wondering if the rim sound or Xstick function from Roland digital snare pad worked, or is that exclusively a facility from the Roland module ? Apologies if you've already answered some of the same queries from others, I have have read through many of your replies but don't have the time to read all of them. I really appreciate your help and guidance.
I'll have to do some more reading into it!
As I said in the review, the speed/latency of the eDRUMin is about on par with using a good module like a Roland to trigger VSTs. Are you sure about that latency value? Roland modules typically have about 3ms as a standard - it typically takes whatever the "scan time" is set to plus a little more to process the trigger signal before it sends the data out. As a standard, Roland us usually set to at least 2ms of scan time, some presets might be higher. You can decrease the scan time to sub-2ms levels but you usually start getting bad performance if you go too low. So the eDRUMin's scan time value will do the same - this is just how long it takes to read the waveform and any increase in scan time (on the eDRUMin or Roland module) will increase the overall latency. If you want to use positional sensing, you will need to have the value set to at least 2.3ms. Then you've got your computer's latency in the mix. I doubt you'd perceive any difference between using either device unless you had to increase the scan time of the trigger settings because of an awkward pad or something.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Thanks for your swift reply Luke, sorry I was quoting the "round trip" 1.5ms from module to SD3 and back and not including the initial typical latency from module, which as you correctly point out is always there. Great that you confirm that eDRUMin performs on a par with modules as Roland and Mimic. It means I can think of replacing my Roland with a couple of eDRUMin10s to get more trigger inputs that I require and still retain my digital pads too, once that is, when they become available in numbers to satisfy demand.
Ahh, shows you how little I use VSTs as I've got my terminology mixed up haha! Fair enough! Yeah, in that case, I doubt you'd notice any difference. I certainly didn't!
This looks fantastic. I use SD3 for all my sounds instead of my TD17. Time to sell my TD17! Thanks Luke!
Just a heads up - looks like they went out of stock just as my video got finished. Bookmark it though!
If you gig with it, then you should always save that td17 as a backup.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop still sold out
I was able to find an edrumin4 on the used market. Im using it on iOS to trigger drums from Garageband using ddrum mono triggers on remo silent mesh heads, and having a blast with it so far. The full editor software being available on mobile is a massive deal for me, and I’m now looking into upgrade my pads, cymbals, and software to make way when I upgrade to the edrumin10!
btw for those still looking to get a module, they go for sale often on the audiofront forum marketplace
Great Review, If they could just make a module using this software and downloading 2 box samples that would be something.
Great vid, a couple of questions:
1) So you can hook up multiple edrumin units with each other for kit expansion through either the USB host or MIDI in ports, right?
2) When connecting digital pads through a USB host device, does this allow to circumvent the limitation of the TD27 module where the cable snake inputs become disabled when digital pads are connected to the module? Can you use the edrumin to trigger stuff in the module while having both digital pads connected to edrumin through the host AND the ride/snare snake cables connected on the module? Sorry for the messy question but basically i want a way to cheat the module into keeping both the digital and analog snare/ride inputs enabled while triggering the sounds inside the module and not that of a VST.
Hi luke.. what source bank sound u use in this video? thanks in advance
I HAVE A QUESTION, CAN I CONNECT TWO TD-07 TO A COMPUTER AT THE SAME TIME USING THE Fideco H418S USB Hub AND RECORDING IN LOGIC PRO X USING A MORE NUMBER OF PADS?
Great Content as usual!
I'm still considering the possibility of buying an eDrumin 4, but I would like to know if it would be possible to use the Roland VH-13/14 with my Yamaha DTX Pro module (which is only compatible with the RHH135, unfortunately).
As for your second question, once configured, does the eDrumin need to be connected to a computer or tablet?
Sorry for my NOOB questions! :)
Thankyou so much for this review. I am using an old Roland TD 7 (prehistoric I know lol).... I was looking to hook up some PD 85/PDX100 and Cy 5/8 pads to it. Unfortunately due to the age of the head unit, I wasn't getting dual zone triggering on the PD85s and the PDX100. Somebody has just told me about this unit, which I'm looking to purchase now. Hopefully this will give me the ability to use those pads with the TD7 and get rim shots! Your review has helped out heaps! Thanks so much and just to let you know I've also subscribed and liked :-)
One question - do you know if the 10 & 4 are essentially the same minus the number of inputs?
Do you know if you where able to get the Lemon cymbals to work better? Im hoping Audifront does an update to address the issue. I actually ordered a whole set to go with this device🤦♂️
this is the future
I didn't understood enough, so, if i want to expand my e-kit while i'm using a VST, can i connect the edrumin to the auxiliary port on a TD-17, or i have to connect it directly to the computer and config it to trigger the extra sounds? Cheers man, love your channel
can i use edrumin4 with yamaha ku100 (kick edrum pedal) with abletone push 2 to fingerdrumming on push 2 while playing kick pedal with my foot?
Great video Luke, I've heard about this unit online but this really outlines it. I'm currently using my td12 on an A to E kit with Steven Slate, using goedrum triggers, stealth, gear drum and ufo triggers. What I'm really keen on is getting more out of my hi hat settings. I have a diy/goedrum dual zone switch trigger. I have heard the best in the market is SD3 which seems to have all sorts of extra features to get the best response. Do you think this would help? Keep up the great work! Joe.
Thanks! I should imagine that the extra hi-hat options with this could help playability but I didn't end up testing my Goedrum controller with it due to time constraints (and the stand I use it on isn't great either so it might not have been super accurate). So I can't really say 100% for sure, but I was impressed with the playability with the FD-7 over Roland modules
Hi! I like a lot your videos. I have a question, I need a recomendation, I only want to play my drum with my laptop and use ezdrummer or other VST, I prefer a module without sounds but a good module for all the zone sounds of my cymbals and pads. I have no problem of buy the best cymbals and pads but I realy need the roland or yamaha more expensive for have the best drum experience?
Which drum software/VST did you use throughout the video? I'm impressed with the sound!
Hi great videos, I have a edrumin 10, I am changing from a rack to stands. I would like to fit the edrumin inside my bass drum would this be a problem Thanks
But then will be keep plugging in and out the cables from the module?
I just got a MacBook i5 quad 16 gig ram laptop. Is this enough to run it smoothly?
Hi 👋
I have a question! With that, is it possible connecting 5 toms and 2 double bass? I mean regulate it? Or it requires a splitter? Thank you
I think an oversight in terms of the customer here is the man with the travelling kit(s)
In my band for instance, the drummer either plays an SPD-SX, or plays a TD-20 weird hybrid kit. This would allow you to easily move your module around - as you're only ever connecting power and MIDI cable to it. So he could have this setup on the main kit, and bring only the module for SPD gigs - this ensures you have EXACTLY the same sounds, no matter the show
I remember waiting for these a few years back... They looked incredibly promising but had too few inputs and I settled for a Megadrum module that I didn't really figured out.
Well... My Gear Acquisition Syndrome is kicking out again.
I need this :-D
That sounds pretty freakin good. I love “pop” on the back-end. Although that’s probably the VST. Also, way to keep it real using the old reliable RHH-135.
Thanks! Yeah, it's Superior Drummer 2 that I'm using on my this video for the sounds. The Yamaha pad is actually just a PCY-135, using a Roland FD-7 as the pedal!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop 😂 well, the old reliable PCY acting as a semi RHH is pretty good too. 🤦🏼♂️
Will this work with Drumagog VST plug-in?
I believe they sell a smaller version with less inputs as well
can you use this with Abelton Live?
Hi thank you for your video! I have a problem and I ask anyone for help if they have encountered a solution to the same problem I am having it has to do with using the DTX900 module by Yamaha. I don’t understand how to wire the head and the rim and successfully get dual triggering on my snare drum. How do I wire the rim and the head and plug it into my DTX900 and for the cross tick, the rim abd the snare head? I heard it’s piezo/switch not piezo/piezo. Is this tru? Is there anyway around this like using a drum splitter cable would that fix this problem??
Damn it... this looks perfect for me: I already only use SD3, so I have very little use for most of the features of an actual drum module. Since I'm currently looking to swap out my TD-11, primarily to get positional sensing support and I really wouldn't mind fiddling around with the trigger settings to get them right, this video made me pretty happy.
Then I was made very sad when checking out their page: The 10 input version is out of stock and in the forums, the manufacturer has said he's waiting for parts, but isn't expecting to get them until October _2023_
Quite the downer for me, as this would be pretty much perfect for me and it would be considerably cheaper than getting a new module.
I feel your pain, but hang in there, it'll be worth it!
They just stocked the 4s and you can use two in tandem. I just bought a couple. Gl!
@@jackbritton5177 Thanks for the info!
Sooo this product is out of stock until AUGUST 2023 according to the website. Any good alternatives?
I have the eDRUMin 10. There's NOTHING like it for "leveling up" (taking it to the next level) triggering response as Rob said. I use it to run SD3, but I also simply then run a 5-din MIDI cable from the eDRUMin to a Mimic Pro. The software and triggering control of the eDRUMin is better than the built-in triggering features and control within the Mimic, in my opinion. I actually get better triggering customization for my needs, and additional control, out of this setup. That says a LOT, because the Mimic is already very good! Further, use of a single MIDI cable with my home kit, allows me to quickly grab the Mimic and load up my gigging kit (a DIY beater kit) and off I go, while leaving my cables and everything set up in the studio. So when I get home, I only have to plug in the Mimic's power and MIDI cables and I'm running again. Love it!
Sounds like you've got an awesome setup going there! I'm definitely going to end up with one of these of my own down the line, there's just so many features that I think are useful. Using it alongside modules is certainly one of the main ones for me. I usually have everything hooked up to my TD-50 with MIDI out from there but could see this being a useful "module hub" for development, especially for the pad compatibility.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop "Module hub" is a great way to describe it. The only thing that might make it better would be a 12-16 input version. However, since it can perform as a MIDI host, it's easy to connect two together or multiple combinations of a 4 and/or a 10. It's too bad you couldn't get the ATV ride to work with three zones and one cable with bell sense. I have it working incredibly well - MUCH better than any analog Roland ride I've ever played.
John I think you just convinced me of a eDRUMin 10 for the SAME exact purpose. I've been recently contemplating a second module for my beater kit (which kind of funny, is high end Roland pads!) and at home my full-on Mimic Pro hooked up to my ePRO kit and ATV cymbals I never really want to tear down due to sheer number of cables and it's setup perfectly. I agree as well - the Mimic offers some pretty advanced trigger control but the eDRUMin kicks it up a notch! Hopefully it's back in stock soon!
Sounds pretty awesome, good vid, have you had any problems with latency at all?
Thanks! No, I didn't have any noticeable latency issues. However, I do have a decent audio interface (Focusrite Scarlett 18i20) and had the buffer settings very low - I think I had it down to 32 samples - which really helps!
Is the software actively processing the data or is it just a controller for the device?
This was an excellent, detailed review. Thank you. I’d like to use this with 2 different
A to E drum kits. Can it be programmed for more than one set of Kit parameters with some means of switching? I use a 2Box module with both kits. Thanks
Thank you! I believe you can save device snapshots in the software by clicking on the icon for the device and saving a preset, so you should be able to swap between multiple setups that way.
what hi-hat is that you are using?
Great review!
Have you done any testing with acoustic triggers ?
I‘m interested in comparison to the Roland tm-6 pro
Thanks in advance
Thanks! Unfortunately not, no. If I end up getting one of my own down the line I'll definitely do an update with some pads/triggers I didn't get chance to try out, though I'm aware that's not helpful right now! I can't see why it wouldn't do a good job with them though
Please help. Should I wait for the new edrumin stock to come in/find a used one or get the mimic pro? Ive researched for hours and hours....and I just cant make a decision. Almost went td17 then alesis strike pro se then 2box then mimic then I found edrumin. My brain is mush...... The kit i was looking at is the atv exs 5...
I can't really tell you what to buy, but it looks like it's going to be quite some time before the eDRUMin 10 is back in stock (I think late 2023 is the speculated timeframe). If you really want an eDRUMin, you can link together multiple eDRUMin 4 units until you have enough inputs - last I checked they were still in stock.
If you don't want to do that and want to get going quickly, or want something with built in sounds, then the Mimic is a great module, budget permitting.
How does this compare to the tmc-6.
Im not fond of adding an extra software step between the triggers and Ableton.
But I do like the usb and 10 inputs option.
I've not used the TMC-6 myself so can't really comment. If it helps, the software doesn't need to be running once you've got your triggers set up as it has a standalone mode - it's only for configuration that it's necessary. I understand that a lot of people prefer being able to adjust parameters with physical dials etc (I'm usually one of those people), but functionally it's pretty much the same as using a sound-less module otherwise.
What about Alesis Crimson 2 support?
I have Alesis Strike module and VH-13 roland hi hats. Those hats are not really compatable with the strike module. Could this box fix that ?
Yes. You might be better off connecting more than just hihats to the edrumin and then midi-ing into the strike module. Say for example, the snare.
What drums are you using? Do you have a video explaining your drumkit? Looks very custom.
Great content!
I explained a little about a few of the drums in this video! If you seek out my Electronic VS Acoustic drums video, I break down an older version of my setup too. I've been asked about my kit a few times recently so I guess I'll probably need to make a video about it eventually but I feel like I've talked about parts of it on a few videos so never remember! Cheers!
How would you rate the MIDI Latency of these units vs. a nice Roland TD module's MIDI out? Trying to trigger software VST's and those module kits are already sounding 10+ years old
Around 6ms
Very good presentation .. I would like to know what are the differences of this product with the DDrum DDTI Trigger Interface .. thank you very much.
Thank you. I've never used a DDrum DDTI unfortunately so you'd have to have a look at the manuals. The DDrum is a fair bit older though, if I remember rightly.
Unfortunately it looks like I've managed to post this just as they've gone out of stock. Hopefully it'll be back soon!
Can you use the edrumin software without the edrumin hardware?
No, you need the device connected to use the software. It won't work without the device as it's just controlling the functions of the hardware. They do make another piece of software called DSP Trigger that you can use with an audio interface instead of the eDRUMin. Not quite as fully-featured as the eDRUMin software, I don't think, and if you want to hook up stereo triggers you might need to use 2 inputs with a splitter from the drum, but might be worth checking out as an alternative.
I'm crossing my fingers 8 months after your note that the 10 will be back one day. I'd gone halfway through the video and my mind was made up. Clicked over to the Audiofront site ready to break my budget and finally replace my old Yamaha DTXtreme IIS module (I've converted the IIS rubber pads to mesh, btw, with fairly good results), only to find it unavailable. Hunted around Ebay and elsewhere, too, but no luck. Thanks for the great work here--I appreciate your content and knowledge.
What a shame! They do keep coming back but I think availability of parts in general are a bit all over the place. I recommend keeping an eye on the Audiofront forum, Rob might post about when he next expects to have some stock. Good luck!
He never takes a breath of air, which is very impressive. Love the videos.
This is great.
I NEVER play with the onboard sounds.
Having this is much cleaner and more affordable.
Same
I’ve been trying to find one of these for sale for 2 months now lol. Does anyone have one they are willing to sell? Looking for the 4-input one but at this point I’ll take the 10
I think they made this just for me! Too bad they're out of stock. I would immediately buy this.
They're back and It looks like they updated the eDrumin4 too
Would it expand the Roland SPD-SX? I see it would not work with Alesis Strike but no info regarding the SPD-SX...
No, it wouldn't. There is no way to trigger sounds that aren't already assigned to a pad zone on the SPD-SX, so there are no "extra" sounds to trigger. All inputs can already be split with simple Y cables so you can have a pad per sound without the need for extra hardware.
At about the 19:40 when you hook your TD-17 into the edrumin are you using just a USB cable? USB “B” to USB “B” type?
It's a USB A to B cable, like you use hooking up the TD-17 to a computer. The eDRUMin 10 has a USB Host port which is an A-type port.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop ah yes..the Edrumin 10 has a usb host option. I have a edrumin 4 which doesn’t have that option. Bummer! I am using it with my EAD10 and SD3 so I can used Roland mesh pads, which is working perfectly but would like to try using it to trigger the onboard Yamaha sounds just to see if it’s possible. Thank you as always for the reply and tips.
Hey! Thanks for the video. I am looking for more customization on my Roland set because I speedrun games with the set. I plan on lowering the sm64 wr by adjusting the controls to improve gameplay. This might just give me the tools to do just that!
Super interesting idea, sounds great! Hope that you find what you need with this!
EDrummin vs megadrum??? Thoughts?
Any idea why the 8 is in stock but the 10 isnt? Difficulty obtaining cases?
Also would love to see them add their own kit library that can be used inside the software so literally an all in 1 option
I'm pretty sure it was to do with parts, yeah. I feel like I remember reading on the Audiofront forum that the 8 was being designed with a different board due to the chip shortages but there's a chance I'm misremembering that! The answer will no doubt be over there somewhere.
That was a great review thanks man! Would you say this plays better with DIY triggers than an average module? Or does it just have a finer level of control that enables DIY triggers to function a better? Cheers man
Yeah, I'd say so. It's a little of both, really. They visual/waveform display helps a lot in understanding what needs adjusting, but the trigger response itself is very good.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop sick! Thanks for the info man, i'm very tempted to sell my TD-20 module and pick up one of these
i may have missed it as you fit so much info into this vid...
when using the edrumin 10 to trigger a module over midi are the settings in the edrumin 10 software still available/usable when triggering the module..?
Hey! Yeah, the triggers will always be controlled by whichever unit you have them plugged into. So if you're running the triggers into the eD10 then sending the MIDI into to the module, you can use the eD software to tweak trigger response while it's attached to the computer. If you wanted to use it away from the computer, your last settings will be saved in the eD10 and you can adjust them by hooking it back up to the computer.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop very cool!! thanks.
Would you trust it in a live situation? That's my biggest issue.
Hi,
Are any features lost when using Roland Digital Triggers with eDrumin to trigger SD3? Is using Roland Digital pads the best route or are there better alternatives?
Thank you, your videos are great and amazingly helpful!!
No positional sensing
Thanks Lalo, I'd somehow missed this! But yes, the biggest drawbacks are that positional sensing doesn't work this way and you also have no access to the trigger parameters for tweaking the response of the pad (sensitivity, threshold etc)
Excellent review, Now if they could just make a box to store my VST samples then I could leave my computer at home. I think I saw something called Smart or some thing like that, but the learning curve for the folder layout seemed quite intimidating and the box it came in certainly wouldn't stand up to the road but it was only $100.00.
Thanks! Yeah, the SmartWAV2. I've got a couple of the units but I haven't done my proper dive into it yet. They can support 4 sample layers per MIDI note, so you won't get VST playability out of it. I'll have a video on it soon so look out for that!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Will be on the look out for that one, take your time, the folder layout will take some getting use too, don't burn up to many neurons.
I purchased the Edrumin10 to expand by Mimic Pro which is maxed out of ports. How do I hook it up without a computer and add say an extra cymbal or two? Can someone provide a basic instruction for this. Which cords do I use and where to plug them in precisely? Thanks, I am pretty new at this.
You can use it in stand-alone mode via a 9v power supply like shown in the video and then connect an iPad/iphone/android device via the usb port.
very nice! Can you use an eDrumIn 4 with a Roland TD-17 (in case the roland runs out of inputs)
The eDRUMin 4 doesn't have a USB Host port and the TD-17 has no MIDI in port so you can't use them together, from what I remember. Even with an eDRUMin 10 though, you can't "expand" a TD-17 if you're using all of the pad inputs/zones because there is no way to trigger sounds that aren't assigned to a pad zone. You can use the 10 to trigger every available zone over MIDI if you want, but it's a pretty limited use case.
Great review. Can I expand my Roland Tm-6 pro with this?
Thanks! The TM-6 doesn't have any capacity to be "expanded" with MIDI, if that's what you mean. It can only play sounds assigned to the pad zones available on each kit, so you would need something else to be the source of the sounds if you wanted to use an eDRUMin with it for that application. I did a MIDI video a while ago that explains why some modules can be expanded and others can't - th-cam.com/video/JXfrqjkVcKg/w-d-xo.html
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18:43 @TheeDrumWorkshop It’s possible to do this inside Logic Pro using the MIDI Scripter function in the channel strip region. I use this to convert my cymbals incoming CC signal to convert to a regular MIDI note for a choking function.
Not too sure on what the code would look like but if I can, I’ll post it as a reply here.
Have you noticed any kind of latency with this?
can the Audiofront eDRUMin be used with Native Instruments Battery?
It just uses MIDI, so as long as Battery can accept MIDI notes from a device then it should work fine!
Wish I knew about this product sooner. This is exactly what I need right now, but it seems the wait will be long for the next batch, and there is no similar product from other brands, right?
I don't know of anything else that fills the same role really, no. Megadrum used to be a really popular option for this years ago but I believe that it's nowhere near as user friendly. There are also some options like a second hand Roland TMC-6 or there's an Alesis one that some people really liked, but they're a lot older and probably pretty outdated nowadays.
The eDRUMin's big strengths are in the software with its ease of use and features. It's a shame to hear about the shortages affecting the eDRUMin as it deserves every success.
Great review! Tnx. What’s your opinion of the other edrumin product, the one that has 4 trigger in’s? And most importantly- will this work with my tm6pro as an expansion for more pads, cymbals and so on? Subscribed!
Hey! I've not used the 4 input version myself but as far as I'm aware it works as well as the 10, just with fewer inputs and without a couple of features like the USB Host port. So I imagine it should be great if it's what you're after.
As far as "expanding" a TM-6 Pro, it depends on exactly what you mean. If you mean "can I plug the eDRUMin into my TM-6 Pro to get more sounds out of the module" then no, you can't do that because the TM-6 Pro can only play sounds that are assigned to the trigger inputs. There are only some modules that allow access to extra sounds via MIDI and none of the newer Roland ones do. I did a video on MIDI a while back on this channel that explains why some can and others can't.
If you just want to run the eDRUMin through a computer or other device alongside the TM-6 Pro then that would be a different matter and would work.
Here's the link to the MIDI video - th-cam.com/video/JXfrqjkVcKg/w-d-xo.html
It's long but it should explain most things you'd need to know about "expanding" with MIDI!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Tnx, this is a big help! I figured as much, as tm6pro doesn’t have any midi in port. So u think using edrumin and tm6pro as two separate units via usb to computer with a Vst (sd3) will work? Can sd3 use two modules one being tm6pro and the other edrumin?
And actually besides that what I’m really looking for is a unit for live hybrid situations that has the ability to load samples and has multiple trigger in. So far I have only found tm6pro for this. But! Thinking on using SPD-sx and expanding it with edrumin 4. Will this work? Tnx! Great channel, so happy I found it 😎
Hi Luke. Just a thought if you may, can we request for a separate video using this + Mimic Pro?
Thank you in advance, brother!
Hey Carlo! Yeah, I can look into that. I borrowed the unit for this review so could only do so much, but I'll have my own very soon!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Thank you, sir. Looking forward to that! More blessings!
Any alternatives to this? They are out of stock
Great stuff. Just got my edrumin4 in the mail (after waiting for almost two months for it, by no fault of audiofront). It looks and works great. Can I use the edrumin with an external sound source for example a sampler or a drum machine? I really wanna cancel the computer part after the triggers are set and work fine. Can I use it without the computer?
Hey, sorry for the slow response. Once you've set up the eDRUMin, you should be able to run it in standalone mode if you get a compatible power supply. If the sampler/drum machine has a 5-pin MIDI in port, you should be able to trigger it with the eDRUMin, yeah.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Not at all! Tnx for answering! Will definitely try it out. Cheers from Tel-Aviv!