Soooo I’ve been a carrier for about 5 months jobs cool, but the thing that sucks is that most people get up at 6am to get ready and get to the office by 730-8am then you work your 12 hours get back to station at 8 but really leave the station to go home around 830pm go home shower eat sleep and repeat for 6-7 days a week. You don’t really get any free time to enjoy life.
100% correct. A few years ago, the pay was good enough so that you could barely tolerate it. Now, other jobs that are not nearly as stressful have competitive pay. New workers who get treated like garbage simply won't take it and tell managers to pound sand.
Ex carrier here. It can and has happened but in my experience its extremely rare and you know, what are the circumstances, also what he means and what people assume he is saying might be different.
I’ve been a carrier for 5 months and the only time I delivered in pairs is when I finish my route and they have a 2 ton driver come pick me up and we deliver packages as a pair. 🤷🏻♂️
This is 100% HR and Managements fault. They are very abusive to the carriers. No one want to stay except the people who have been there for years and are afraid to change. Every new employee quits within weeks
I was mad about them not delivering our mail at the office for a few days until I saw them deliver mail in my neighborhood at 830 at night. I am so sorry I was that way. Now I pray for them, their hard work & their families. God bless us all.
Please don’t be mean, I’m sure everyone is trying to do what they can. You would think it’s an easy job, at least that’s what I thought till I actually had to carry mail myself. I was shook to my core the first few months. Learning the names, routes, dealing with disgusting attitudes, literally walking miles a day. It’s not easy. Please be kind, I’m one of the kindest people (not to toot my own horn) and I found myself becoming angry at people for not understanding.
They said it’s voluntarily on this Video but today at academy we were told that they can make you stay up to a 12 hour shift and sometimes even 16 hours.
The postal service lied in the video lmao, a huge part of USPS turnover is because of the unsustainable involuntary overtime. The job descriptions literally confirm the post office lied in this video lmao, the job listing descriptions say overtime is involuntary.
i saw a post office job advertised on indeed and i think it was called PSE something. well, the pay was listed around $19.62 an hour.....thats the problem right there. no one wants to work low paying jobs anymore. raise your wages. the post office can do it.
@@Aaron-or6ov $20 is a little better but unfortunately with cost of living and inflation you need like 25 - 30 an hour minimum and even then it might not be enough.
I have been a mail carrier for 17 years. I wonder if the PR person blatantly lied or just doesn’t know. Overtime shifts are not volunteer only. I have never seen mail carriers deliver in pairs. Not one post office has ever purchased me a headlamp now that’s easy to prove ask him for the purchase order for the headlamps that should be public record.
Husband says his PO that he works at has had headlamps for about 5 years now...he has been there more than 20 years. They also supply batteries. Maybe this will help you get some at yours.
I'm a Postal Service retiree and there's no reason for this situation.They have ads and signs at almost every PO station.However our niece signed up for a employment test and got a 95 score and never heard from the PO about a job.Something is not right here and its the management.
They are eliminating 60k jobs and this is a big part of their “quest”. Make life Hell for the carriers and hope they all quit - you know it’s all about making their numbers and quotas
To hear that man lie and say after your route you’ll have an extra street or two to do is crazy asf. You can tell he has no connection with carriers. How about after your route you get 3 hours of more mail to deliver everyday , way more than a street or two. Stop the BS gaslighting. You have no life, over worked and the money is pointless cuz you’re too tired to spend it . I’d get off work and would feel like I got the brakes beat off me. I did 3 years. I was so depressed, worst times of my life. Glad I’m moved on. Yes I went on a rant !
I live well on minimum wage; it's all about how we spend! In my house (that I paid off) because I bought only the size I needed...don't need to impress my friendsI don't have pay per view 32 digital over the air channels are enough! Don't eat out 4 days a week and don't wear $100. Sneakers. You may be; surprised to learn what you can live without! Time to grow up kiddies! BTW thanks to dmfp and dmfps BFF...Puntang things are going to get much worse!
I just applied here in San Diego and after reading countless reviews and stories, I think I’m gonna pass. I am a welder looking for a change but as far as that goes I think I’ll stick with that for now. Besides the staring pay is a shitty $19-hr, you can’t even pay rent with that. Sounds like an extremely hostile work environment also. yeah… no
I did it 3 years . Worst mistake ever . Job was way too hard . The workload was crazy and to think you’re coming into that everyday for the next 20 years . Nope !
Current mail employee, you people need to understand that there’s new hires and majority of these routes are HARD to learn at first it takes months sometimes to get them down. You encounter rain, heat, dogs, mean customers. Sometimes y’all make our days so hard. Be kind and patient. we don’t delay the mail on purpose. Yes there are bad apples in the bunch but not all carriers are bad. There’s only so much we can handle.
Ex mail carrier here, hope you don't mind answering some questions. 1. Are new hires still considered part time employees until someone retires, even if they work 40+ hours? 2. Are they still bouncing new hires from rout to rout constantly instead of letting them case and do the route for at least a week so they can learn it faster? 3. What is the current situation if the mail for a route will cause the carriers to be late, is overtime allowed outside peak seasons?
@@JLG35X hey!! 1. Yes they come in as “Part time” although if you have a big office you don’t work part time hours. It’s funny cause in my office after peak season like Jan- April I literally was part time. I was only working 20-25 hours a week. That’s pretty unheard of for other places but in my office they run shiz pretty smooth, the carriers aren’t hurt or sick or out. So there was a time I was fighting for hours. But to answer the question Yes you come in as a Part time. 2. So I guess in bigger offices where there’s for example 20 city routes they try to keep you on one specific route so you can learn but in those offices carriers go on leave or call out so it’s on the cca to get on a new route. In my case there was 12 city routes I knew 10 of those. They bounced me around so much it took me a while. (I’m just a slow learner haha) 3. If that office has a enough people like mines did then you help that regular by taking 1-2 hours of mail off of them. And as a cca you do that for about 2 carriers so that gives you about 5 hours of work since you don’t have an assigned route.
They don’t get paid enough!!!!!!!!! that’s why there isn’t enough people working there. They don’t even get paid extra if they have to pull another shift.
Its very circumstantial but it can happen. 1. He might be being cheeky and actually refer to when you first hit your post office for the first few days and are still in training. Technically not wrong but shouldn't count. 2. He might also mean sending another (or several, even more rare) to help with a rout. I mean, no you are not going to walk together to deliver to the same houses or individual apartments, but you can for example split the mail at an intersection, or even have one person drop regular mail while another does packages. 3. Similar to number 2, if you have a large apartment complex and you are running late you might have more than one carrier deliver. I've both seen and been a part of this happening with more than two carriers, kind of joked about making it a party. Keep in mind that with elections and holidays, the mail gets insane.
The postal service does have a hiring shortage but they have an even bigger new employee retention issue. New employees right out of Academy training being severely over worked, with little to no time off for weeks at at a time, on hands training is insufficient do in part to understaffed postal facilities, many new hires quit within the first few days or weeks on the job, some hang in for a few months, but more often than not many get fired within the 90 day probation period where the postmaster can fire them just for calling out sick or doing a route a little to slow or having to work unscheduled or unapproved overtime just to get the mail for that day delivered. If they want to retain the new employees, they need to change the 90 day probation period from a time that you can get fired for being to slow do to insufficient training or needing a mental health day off to 90 days training program.
I been trying to get this job forever they have the process so complicated and also they ain’t tryna pay enough starting 20 should be Minimum wage in California . With a raise every 6 months to a year capping out at 40$
Ya raise the minimum wage and the everything else will go up in price. If they paid you what you think you are worth you will be in that same situation of not affording anything because the cost of living and everything went up in cost. You do not understand business and reality. There are 2 types Business owners and Laborers. Your information clearly shows you are a Laborer!!
@@a.d.9729 This is why you are a common laborer. You don't understand business and the costs that it takes to run a business. If you want money you need more education and or experience. If minimum wage went up you would still barely get buy. The cost of everything will go up and you all would rag more because you don't make enough still. Guess you did not understand when the minimum wage went up the cost of fuel, food and everything else went up in cost. The only people that can benefit with the minimum wage going up are people that paid off their house, live in a car/van or live at home with your parents.
@@a.d.9729 Oh Good.... It is tiresome to keep going when a common laborer does not understand the reality of running a business. Just can't help the common laborer understand with blinders on a one way street
In my past experience its a 'depends'. For me it was more on the 'forced' side of things, but not for every one, also don't know how things have changed since there was a change of Post Master General or whatever its called and Im under the impression the Trump guy wanted to do away with the long hours, but not sure to be honest with you.
These managers or district people are clueless. Never even looked at a letter or dark of night. In our area; we were NEVER allowed to hire extra for Christmas. If it was mentioned you were laughed at.
And then they hire seasonal and they don't know what they are doing they don't train them well enough so that makes the problem worse u hire seasonal people well in advance before Christmas and thanksgiving man is it that hard to comprehend
Dear usps suggestion do away with those piddly uppermanagment positions that watch if I backed up accidently and pay employees more. He'll the nalc should be fighting for this but our union sucks
I wish there was a little more info here, like the fact that elections and holiday season are most likely the reason this is happening and its going to die out once it passes, not saying the usps doesn't have issues, haven't worked for them in a while, but its more complicated than they make it look.
Worker shortage!??? Quick solution; lose that idiotic qualifying test; this is delivering mail; not translating hieroglyphics! a CDL, I can see; but the testing????
@@Chance754 yeah this is very true. It took me about 2.5 months from the time of my application to when I actually did my first shift delivering mail on my own, after all the training.
HERE IS THE ISSUE...... The service taking care of the applications only gives you 3 DAYS TO REPSOND!!!!. They send it on the weekend Fri - Sun. Not business days M-F............If you call they say you have to WAIT 30 DAYS TO RE-APPLY. They tell you to call USPS and get approval to resend. OK Well THEY ARE BUSY AND CAN'T GET THROUGH. So if you are out of town on on a family emergency at the hospital you are out of luck.....
Soooo I’ve been a carrier for about 5 months jobs cool, but the thing that sucks is that most people get up at 6am to get ready and get to the office by 730-8am then you work your 12 hours get back to station at 8 but really leave the station to go home around 830pm go home shower eat sleep and repeat for 6-7 days a week. You don’t really get any free time to enjoy life.
Their is a shortage because supervisors run away the help with bully and intimidating tactics.
100% correct. A few years ago, the pay was good enough so that you could barely tolerate it. Now, other jobs that are not nearly as stressful have competitive pay. New workers who get treated like garbage simply won't take it and tell managers to pound sand.
"Sometimes they deliver in pairs" What BS. Never saw this in my 3 years in the PO the whole point is we don't have enough people.
Ex carrier here. It can and has happened but in my experience its extremely rare and you know, what are the circumstances, also what he means and what people assume he is saying might be different.
I’ve been a carrier for 5 months and the only time I delivered in pairs is when I finish my route and they have a 2 ton driver come pick me up and we deliver packages as a pair. 🤷🏻♂️
This is 100% HR and Managements fault. They are very abusive to the carriers. No one want to stay except the people who have been there for years and are afraid to change. Every new employee quits within weeks
That's the result of a toxic workplace.
🙊👏
I was mad about them not delivering our mail at the office for a few days until I saw them deliver mail in my neighborhood at 830 at night. I am so sorry I was that way. Now I pray for them, their hard work & their families. God bless us all.
I've seen 1am delivery
@@CurtisDJunior what is going on!!
@@solarmax11 political mail and employee call outs.. I'm a carrier worked six days 81 hours last week...
@@CurtisDJunior wow! incredible! My heart goes out to all your hard work for weeks to come. Prayers to all mail carriers from now on.
Please don’t be mean, I’m sure everyone is trying to do what they can. You would think it’s an easy job, at least that’s what I thought till I actually had to carry mail myself. I was shook to my core the first few months. Learning the names, routes, dealing with disgusting attitudes, literally walking miles a day. It’s not easy. Please be kind, I’m one of the kindest people (not to toot my own horn) and I found myself becoming angry at people for not understanding.
They said it’s voluntarily on this Video but today at academy we were told that they can make you stay up to a 12 hour shift and sometimes even 16 hours.
Yup
12 hours day after day, brutal
They're straight up lying. And our overtime only starts after the 8 hours. Not for working a day off against our will.
The postal service lied in the video lmao, a huge part of USPS turnover is because of the unsustainable involuntary overtime. The job descriptions literally confirm the post office lied in this video lmao, the job listing descriptions say overtime is involuntary.
i saw a post office job advertised on indeed and i think it was called PSE something. well, the pay was listed around $19.62 an hour.....thats the problem right there. no one wants to work low paying jobs anymore. raise your wages. the post office can do it.
I see that a lot on indeed now. Amazon now mostly starts pay at $20 I rather go to work there.
@@Aaron-or6ov $20 is a little better but unfortunately with cost of living and inflation you need like 25 - 30 an hour minimum and even then it might not be enough.
@@Aaron-or6ov Amazon just laid off 18000 employees
@@ywc99411 yea I heard about that. Sad to see all these layoffs
Nobody wants to pay shit anymore. That trickle down effect sure isn’t the color green
I have been a mail carrier for 17 years. I wonder if the PR person blatantly lied or just doesn’t know. Overtime shifts are not volunteer only. I have never seen mail carriers deliver in pairs. Not one post office has ever purchased me a headlamp now that’s easy to prove ask him for the purchase order for the headlamps that should be public record.
Husband says his PO that he works at has had headlamps for about 5 years now...he has been there more than 20 years. They also supply batteries. Maybe this will help you get some at yours.
Totally agree with you. If not enough volunteer, they still have to mandate. And never deliver in pair.
that's a lie, they make an effort to work late, they don't provide equipment to work in the dark
It’s not voluntary. The mandate you or you get written up.
I'm a Postal Service retiree and there's no reason for this situation.They have ads and signs at almost every PO station.However our niece signed up for a employment test and got a 95 score and never heard from the PO about a job.Something is not right here and its the management.
They are eliminating 60k jobs and this is a big part of their “quest”. Make life Hell for the carriers and hope they all quit - you know it’s all about making their numbers and quotas
To hear that man lie and say after your route you’ll have an extra street or two to do is crazy asf. You can tell he has no connection with carriers. How about after your route you get 3 hours of more mail to deliver everyday , way more than a street or two. Stop the BS gaslighting. You have no life, over worked and the money is pointless cuz you’re too tired to spend it . I’d get off work and would feel like I got the brakes beat off me. I did 3 years. I was so depressed, worst times of my life. Glad I’m moved on. Yes I went on a rant !
$20 an hour sounds like a lot but it's hardly enough to get by with everything being so expensive today
The workforce will have to decide to either work for nothing or to not work.
@@michaeln.2383 they make more collecting unemployment
I doubt I'd do that for $20.00 an hour, if I had a mortgage to pay.
I live well on minimum wage; it's all about how we spend! In my house (that I paid off) because I bought only the size I needed...don't need to impress my friendsI don't have pay per view 32 digital over the air channels are enough! Don't eat out 4 days a week and don't wear $100. Sneakers. You may be; surprised to learn what you can live without! Time to grow up kiddies! BTW thanks to dmfp and dmfps BFF...Puntang things are going to get much worse!
@@aaronthenorm5400 your life sounds terrible
Pay isn't what is advertised online. They will bait and switch you. Severely underpaid
I just applied here in San Diego and after reading countless reviews and stories, I think I’m gonna pass. I am a welder looking for a change but as far as that goes I think I’ll stick with that for now. Besides the staring pay is a shitty $19-hr, you can’t even pay rent with that. Sounds like an extremely hostile work environment also. yeah… no
TRUST ME you’re doing the right thing!
Wise decision! It is pure HELL!!!!!!!
@@timothyjones1906 pure hell!
Smart move!
I did it 3 years . Worst mistake ever . Job was way too hard . The workload was crazy and to think you’re coming into that everyday for the next 20 years . Nope !
My location doesn’t provide headlamps and we never work in pairs
Its not the postal workers managers. Its a problem higher up. The post master and congress.
"an extra street or two" my ass lmao
Current mail employee, you people need to understand that there’s new hires and majority of these routes are HARD to learn at first it takes months sometimes to get them down. You encounter rain, heat, dogs, mean customers. Sometimes y’all make our days so hard. Be kind and patient. we don’t delay the mail on purpose. Yes there are bad apples in the bunch but not all carriers are bad. There’s only so much we can handle.
Ex mail carrier here, hope you don't mind answering some questions.
1. Are new hires still considered part time employees until someone retires, even if they work 40+ hours?
2. Are they still bouncing new hires from rout to rout constantly instead of letting them case and do the route for at least a week so they can learn it faster?
3. What is the current situation if the mail for a route will cause the carriers to be late, is overtime allowed outside peak seasons?
@@JLG35X hey!! 1. Yes they come in as “Part time” although if you have a big office you don’t work part time hours. It’s funny cause in my office after peak season like Jan- April I literally was part time. I was only working 20-25 hours a week. That’s pretty unheard of for other places but in my office they run shiz pretty smooth, the carriers aren’t hurt or sick or out. So there was a time I was fighting for hours. But to answer the question Yes you come in as a Part time.
2. So I guess in bigger offices where there’s for example 20 city routes they try to keep you on one specific route so you can learn but in those offices carriers go on leave or call out so it’s on the cca to get on a new route. In my case there was 12 city routes I knew 10 of those. They bounced me around so much it took me a while. (I’m just a slow learner haha)
3. If that office has a enough people like mines did then you help that regular by taking 1-2 hours of mail off of them. And as a cca you do that for about 2 carriers so that gives you about 5 hours of work since you don’t have an assigned route.
Most people that run usps are seniors that haven’t adapted to to modern times
Not with GPS! This isn't the pony express!
Pay more
They don’t get paid enough!!!!!!!!!
that’s why there isn’t enough people working there. They don’t even get paid extra if they have to pull another shift.
Do you know what they are getting? I could live like royalty on that! That Plus retirement!!! 😒
@@aaronthenorm5400 You don’t have any clue what we’ve to go through every single day 😢 I would say we don’t get paid enough to do the job ! 😢
Deliver in pairs? I’ve never seen it. Ever.
It's lie long enough so ppl will believe u😁
No we don't work in pairs management does
Its very circumstantial but it can happen.
1. He might be being cheeky and actually refer to when you first hit your post office for the first few days and are still in training. Technically not wrong but shouldn't count.
2. He might also mean sending another (or several, even more rare) to help with a rout. I mean, no you are not going to walk together to deliver to the same houses or individual apartments, but you can for example split the mail at an intersection, or even have one person drop regular mail while another does packages.
3. Similar to number 2, if you have a large apartment complex and you are running late you might have more than one carrier deliver. I've both seen and been a part of this happening with more than two carriers, kind of joked about making it a party. Keep in mind that with elections and holidays, the mail gets insane.
The ONLY time I delivered with someone else was back in ‘96
I work 8am To 10pm every single day. I'm exhausted.
Filing a complaint does NOTHING WHATSOEVER! The way workers are treated has a hand in it. They don’t care at all!!!
The postal service does have a hiring shortage but they have an even bigger new employee retention issue. New employees right out of Academy training being severely over worked, with little to no time off for weeks at at a time, on hands training is insufficient do in part to understaffed postal facilities, many new hires quit within the first few days or weeks on the job, some hang in for a few months, but more often than not many get fired within the 90 day probation period where the postmaster can fire them just for calling out sick or doing a route a little to slow or having to work unscheduled or unapproved overtime just to get the mail for that day delivered. If they want to retain the new employees, they need to change the 90 day probation period from a time that you can get fired for being to slow do to insufficient training or needing a mental health day off to 90 days training program.
We’d get new ppl and they’d literally last 1 day. Swear that happened over 15 times in a year at my station.
I been trying to get this job forever they have the process so complicated and also they ain’t tryna pay enough starting 20 should be Minimum wage in California . With a raise every 6 months to a year capping out at 40$
Ya raise the minimum wage and the everything else will go up in price. If they paid you what you think you are worth you will be in that same situation of not affording anything because the cost of living and everything went up in cost. You do not understand business and reality. There are 2 types Business owners and Laborers. Your information clearly shows you are a Laborer!!
@@a.d.9729 This is why you are a common laborer. You don't understand business and the costs that it takes to run a business. If you want money you need more education and or experience. If minimum wage went up you would still barely get buy. The cost of everything will go up and you all would rag more because you don't make enough still. Guess you did not understand when the minimum wage went up the cost of fuel, food and everything else went up in cost. The only people that can benefit with the minimum wage going up are people that paid off their house, live in a car/van or live at home with your parents.
@@a.d.9729 Oh Good.... It is tiresome to keep going when a common laborer does not understand the reality of running a business. Just can't help the common laborer understand with blinders on a one way street
I was a letter carrier and sometimes I wouldn't get back till 9:30 at night
Voluntary haha they’re forced!
In my past experience its a 'depends'. For me it was more on the 'forced' side of things, but not for every one, also don't know how things have changed since there was a change of Post Master General or whatever its called and Im under the impression the Trump guy wanted to do away with the long hours, but not sure to be honest with you.
Have an ex-employee and had a veteran friend who got hassled because he went to the VA Hospital on his day off and could not work
RUN do not walk away from this job! Worst I've EVER had & I'm no slouch!
These managers or district people are clueless. Never even looked at a letter or dark of night. In our area; we were NEVER allowed to hire extra for Christmas. If it was mentioned you were laughed at.
So many lies being spread
And then they hire seasonal and they don't know what they are doing they don't train them well enough so that makes the problem worse u hire seasonal people well in advance before Christmas and thanksgiving man is it that hard to comprehend
The end result of Democrats paying GenX and GenZ to stay home.
Dear usps suggestion do away with those piddly uppermanagment positions that watch if I backed up accidently and pay employees more. He'll the nalc should be fighting for this but our union sucks
That's a lie carrier start 8.30 and it's bs
They don't got a union?
They do that is why there is this issue 😁
I wish there was a little more info here, like the fact that elections and holiday season are most likely the reason this is happening and its going to die out once it passes, not saying the usps doesn't have issues, haven't worked for them in a while, but its more complicated than they make it look.
Mismanagement
YOU BUY YOUR OWN HEADLAMPS
That’s when I say 👋👋 who cares about the mail it called snail mail and it going to get a lot worse that’s why I do things on my computer and iPad 😊
Worker shortage!??? Quick solution; lose that idiotic qualifying test; this is delivering mail; not translating hieroglyphics!
a CDL, I can see; but the testing????
The test is so easy someone without common sense could pass it. The problem is they take a long time to hire!!!!
@@Chance754 yeah this is very true. It took me about 2.5 months from the time of my application to when I actually did my first shift delivering mail on my own, after all the training.
@@that90sjay you’re lucky then. Some people it took them 6 months to get into the post office!!!
HERE IS THE ISSUE...... The service taking care of the applications only gives you 3 DAYS TO REPSOND!!!!. They send it on the weekend Fri - Sun. Not business days M-F............If you call they say you have to WAIT 30 DAYS TO RE-APPLY. They tell you to call USPS and get approval to resend. OK Well THEY ARE BUSY AND CAN'T GET THROUGH. So if you are out of town on on a family emergency at the hospital you are out of luck.....
Excuse shut up...