@@mr.longjohn0014 Nash had a long career but he wasn't that good at anything. He steph with out the defense, the handles and the ability to finish at the rim.
Nah, it’s not really. Wade had a really short prime (05-11) and a 1 year peak (09). Giannis and Jokic haven’t had enough time to be on all time leaderboards. Nash’s prime was a decade long and yeah he’s not a champion but the man had to face the Spurs dynasty, and Shaq n Kobe. And he was a playoff riser so it wasn’t his fault
@@No-xo1kxok so a 0 ring 2 time fraud mvp is better than a 1 time champion 2 time mvp and 1 time finals mvp with dpoy. Even as a Canadian I just can’t say he’s better than jokic, giannis, and wade.
Here is my top 30 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 4. Tim Duncan 5. Magic Johnson 6. Larry Bird 7. Kobe Bryant 8. Shaquille O’Neal 9. Stephen Curry 10. Bill Russell 11. Hakeem Olajuwon 12. Wilt Chamberlain 13. Kevin Durant 14. Julius Erving 15. Moses Malone 16. Jerry West 17. Oscar Robertson 18. Scottie Pippen 19. Isiah Thomas 20. Dwyane Wade 21. David Robinson 22. Kevin Garnett 23. Dirk Nowitzki 24. Kawhi Leonard 25. Giannis Antetokounmpo 26. Nikola Jokic 27. John Havlicek 28. Rick Barry 29. Elvin Hayes 30. George Mikan
What else did he do? His whole career is injuries. Wade is a legend but he had a 7 year prime and virtually no longevity. 37th in points, 47th in AST, 33rd in STL. And more blocks than Joakim Noah 😂 that’s wild
@@No-xo1kxbro wdym what else he did he had 3 rings, 1 finals mvp, some all team first teams, and a gold medal, most of the people above dwade feom 20-25 had either no chips or one, D wade is top 3 SG of all time, yea he didnt get as many stats as most people on the list and had rlly bad longevity but still had a lot more success than a lot of these players like Karl Malone, Steve Nash, and John Stockton, thats ehy he is so good and deserves to be on this list
@No-xo1kx Having rlly good career with playoff success but with bad longevity and bad stats for a superstar is better than having a good career with long longevity and rlly good career stats, but no playoff sucess, and the thing is when D Wade was in his prime we was pretty much unstoppable with his speed and an amazing scorer and one of the best Shooting Guard shot blockers of all time, D Wade is elite amd did more than some players who had longer careers than him💀
I like how you properly rate Shaq. Easily a top 4-7 player of all time. Jokic & Kawhi should be on the list. Steph should be in the top 10. Kobe should be a few spots higher… and MJ should be #1.
Dirk Nowitzki at #21 is disrespectful. Consistent 50-win seasons in the toughest division in NBA history. Never had a great supporting cast. Still won a Championship and beat several hall of famers in that run (in two of those series there were THREE HOFers in the same damn team). Not to mention his signature one-legged fadeaway, 21 years in Dallas, and the fact that he literally changed the game of basketball.
@@ayeyo6732 if you take Giannis (which you should) I think In my opinion gotta take Jokic too. That playoff run was to elite compared to the 20-25 guys.
@@prodigyvibez4604 I mainly say Giannis becuz he’s been at super stardom in my opinion for a lil longer and the dpoys with the mvps as well, I only say jokic soon becuz I feel like he wasn’t mentioned in these conversations before this season, but I fs think within the next two seasons, maybe even after this next season depending on how it goes for Denver, jokic will/can be right there wit Giannis, jus my opinion tho, I definitely see ur argument
Nah I'm sorry but putting Jokic as an honourable mention and not putting him top 20 is crazy. And putting LeBron over Jordan because it's a "Generational thing" is crazy.
Main gripes are that Shaq and Wilt need to be lower, Kobe and Magic and Curry need to be higher, and IT and Wade need to be on the list in place of Nash and Stockton. Iverson should also be mentioned as an honorable mention. But obviously wasn’t going to agree with everything, still a great video
You can never put Wilt above Bill, never, it only takes 20 minutes of research to learn about how Bill always dominated Wilt and how Wilt was all stats as Bill was a winner
Something cool about Jerry West is that yes he was a 5 time all defensive selection but that was the most he could've possibly gotten because they only created that accolade the last five seasons that West played Also he was only player to be named finals mvp when losing finals. Plus has some of the coolest nicknames "The Logo" and "Mr. Clutch"
Props for having the courage to release this list Matt. Love your content mate, although I do disagree with your top 25. Everyone has a different opinion! 👍👍
I like the respect of putting steve nash at 24th until you realize it was over Giannis, and even tho it was said that the “honorable mentions could be put anywhere from 20-25” Baylor, Wade and Jokic not making your cut i mean, wow. I think play-off success specially for someone you’re considering to be a top 25th player should be a thing in someway or another, not reaching the finals even once is just unacceptable.
@@Jajsnsjsn kobes got more rings than bird and had a way longer prime, bird had back injuries 10 years into his career, Kobe is an 18 x all-star and 15x all nba with more rings, more career points, more finals appearances, bird has no argument other then white media guys love him so they put him on a pedal stool that's his only argument, duncan and Kobe played in the same era and yet from 2000-2010 Kobe was featured in the NBA finals 7 times, more than any player of that era, while having 5 rings to match Duncan's 5, while having a poverty team for a couple years, there goes Duncan's argument over Kobe, LeBron is a product of the media and because of his Jewish connects in the media they have pushed him to the top of the list by manipulation of the peoples minds, only people that have a legit argument over Kobe are MJ and Kareem that's it
@@kckc7140 Duncan never had a season under 50 wins he also never had a top 5 teammate like shaq. Bird played in the most competitive era in basketball. He is also Jordan’s kryptonite. LeBron has more everything besides championships than Kobe.
Ranking by position makes more sense. Different positions involve different skill sets and different roles. When you lump everybody together you end up comparing apples with oranges.
W for having nash in here. People don’t realize every team he started on basically had the highest offensive rating for that year. Also I would have jokic in here based just on his peak alone
I think the only thing I don't agree with Is KG and Dirk being too low In comparison to someone like time duncan(Yeah they're both worse but put them on that 2000s spurs team and they probably get 3-5 rings too lol) I also would say not even Including dwayne wade on the list Is crazy!!!!!, Also I'm not a guy who's gonna set here and put someone like Bill russel who won a bunch of rings when there were 9 teams In the league. I know some of these players are legacy picks but I just cannot bring myself to put someone who had all their success In the 60s above people we saw dominate one of the toughest eras of the 2000s Western conference
For me it’s 1. MJ 2. Bron 3. Kareem 4. Duncan 5. Bird 6. Kobe 7. Magic 8. Hakeem 9. Shaq 10. Wilt 11. Curry 12. Bill Russell 13. Moses Malone 14. KD 15. KG 16. Big O 17. D wade 18. Dr J 19. Giannis 20. Isiah Thomas 21. D rob 22. Jokic 23. Dirk 24. Haram Malone 25. West
hows it crazy? why does having championships matter more than whos the literal best player when talking about whos the best player?? bill russell literally had some of the best teammates
1. MJ 2. LeBron 3. Wilt 4. Kareem 5. Shaq 6. Magic 7. Bird 8. Big O 9. Timmy D 10. Bill Russell 11. Hakeem 12. Steph 13. John Stockton 14. Dr J 15. Moses Malone 16. Charles Barkley 17. Karl Malone 18. David Robinson 19. Kobe 20. Jokic 21. Giannis 22. Jerry West 23. KG 24. KD 25. Dirk
lol that list is delusional. Kobe at 19 and shaq at 5. When Kobe has more rings and accomplishments is unbelievable. Stockton and Malone never won the finals.
I actually have a tough time ranking Lebron and Jordan. On one hand Jordan’s 87-93 seasons was the greatest peak of any basketball player. On the other hand, Lebron has played for 21 seasons and was realistically the best player in the world for about 12-14 of those seasons.
Its just splitting hairs at this point. But when it comes to the conversation of the GOAT I just don't understand why its only between those 2. I never saw Kareem play, but based on a whole basketball career from start to finish nobody has been more successful, and he had the most unstoppable move in basketball that nobody has managed to replicate
My top 100 1. Michael Jordan 2. Kareem Abdul jabbar 3. Wilt chamberlain 4. Larry bird 5. Kobe Bryant 6. Shaquille o Neal 7. Hakeem Olajuwon 8. Bill Russell 9. Tim Duncan 10. Kevin Durant 11. Jerry west 12. Elgin Baylor 13. Julius Erving 14. Magic Johnson 15. Moses Malone 16. Scottie pippen 17. John Havlicek 18. Pete Maravich 19. Dominique Wilkins 20. Clyde drexler 21. Kevin mchale 22. Stephen curry 23. Lebron james 24. Isiah Thomas 25. Kevin Garnett 26. Dirk nowitzki 27. Allen iverson 28. George gervin 29. David Robinson 30. Giannis antetokounmpo 31. Kawhi Leonard 32. Oscar Robertson 33. Patrick Ewing 34. Paul pierce 35. Nikola jokic 36. Willis reed 37. Karl Malone 38. Rick Barry 39. Steve Nash 40. Ray Allen 41. Bob Pettit 42. Bob Cousy 43. Elvin Hayes 44. John Stockton 45. Tracy mcgrady 46. Vince Carter 47. Reggie miller 48. Robert parish 49. George Mikan 50. James harden 51. Anthony Davis 52. Kyrie Irving 53. Dwyane Wade 54. Jason Kidd 55. Wes unseld 56. Tony Parker 57. Russell Westbrook 58. Dennis Johnson 59. Gary Payton 60. James worthy 61. Bob mcadoo 62. Damian lillard 63. Alex English 64. Pau gasol 65. Tiny archibald 66. Walt Frazier 67. Dave cowens 68. Jo Jo white 69. Bernard king 70. Carmelo Anthony 71. Luka doncic 72. Jaylen brown 73. Dennis Rodman 74. Jayson Tatum 75. Klay Thompson 76. Chris Bosh 77. Joe dumars 78. Bill Walton 79.Nate Thurmond 80. Bob Lanier 81. Sam jones 82. Derrick rose 83. Adrian dantley 84. Earl Monroe 85. Paul Arizin 86. Artis Gilmore 87. Alonzo mourning 88. Chris Mullin 89. Tim hardaway 90. Manu ginobili 91. Chris Webber 92. David Thompson 93. Drazen Petrovic 94. Rajon rondo 95. Shai gilgous Alexander 96. Anthony Edwards 97. Jrue holiday 98. Chris Paul 99. Mark price 100. Paul George Players who miss the cut : Charles Barkley Dwight Howard Jimmy butler Joel embiid Devin booker Isaiah Thomas draymond green Derrick white Kristaps porzingis Al horford Jamal Crawford demar derozan
I got Steph at #1. Skill and true shooting percentage matter. He is the only player on the list who took a crappy team to one of the longest dynasty runs in NBA history.
I am not going to judge you for your rankings in the Top 10 because you specifically said you are 24 and hasn't seen many of the players in the past. But can somebody tell me, how can you have Curry outside of the Top Ten of All Time when he has the same amount of rings from the same era as the guy you have as #1?
10 finals and longevity maybe? Except for 3 point shooting and ft shooting there is nothing he does better. Don't be biased man. He's played way lesser. Had crazy help, etc. And still reached fewer finals.
mine are michael jordan, kareem abdul jabbar , wilt chamberlin, larry bird, kobe bryant, jerry west, pete maravich, bill russell, shaquille o'neal, dr. j
(Tier 1) 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 4. Larry Bird 5. Magic Johnson 6. Kobe Bryant 7. Wilt Chamberlain 8. Bill Russell (Tier 2) 9. Steph Curry 10. Shaquille Oneal 11. Tim Duncan 12. Kevin Durant 13. Hakeem Olajuwon 14. Nikola Jokic 15. Giannis Antetokounmpo 16. Luka Doncic (Tier 3) 17. Oscar Robertson 18. Jerry West 19. Julius Erving 20. Moses Malone 21. Kevin Garnett 22. Dirk Nowitzki 23. Charles Barkley 24. Karl Malone 25. Dwayne Wade (Tier 4) 26. Isiah Thomas 27. John Stockton 28. David Robinson 29. John Havlicek 30. Kawhi Leonard 31. Rick Barry 32. Scottie Pippen 33. Bob Pettit 34. Steve Nash 35. Chris Paul 36. Jason Kidd
1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kobe Bryant 4. Larry Bird 5. Magic Johnson 6. Wilt Chamberlain 7. Hakeem Olajuwon 8. Shaquille O’Neal 9. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 10. Tim Duncan 11. Bill Russell 12. Stephen Curry 13. Oscar Robertson 14. Kevin Durant 15. Julius Erving 16. Jerry West 17. Moses Malone 18. Karl Malone 19. Dirk Nowitzki 20. Kevin Garnett 21. Charles Barkley 22. Dwyane Wade 23. David Robinson 24. Allen Iverson 25. Isaih Thomas
my top 25 if anyone cares 1. Lebron James - SF 2. Michael Jordan - SG 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - C 4. Shaquille O'Neal - C 5. Kobe Bryant - SG 6. Stephen Curry - PG 7. Magic Johnson - PG 8. Tim Duncan - PF 9. Kevin Durant - SF 10. Larry Bird - SF 11. Hakeem Olajuwon - C 12. Kevin Garnett - PF 13. Giannis Antetokounmpo - PF 14. Bill Russell - C 15. Nikola Jokic - C 16. Wilt Chamberlain - C 17. Dwyane Wade - SG 18. Dirk Nowitzki - PF 19. Oscar Robertson - PG 20. Julius Erving - SF 21. Charles Barkley - PF 22. Jerry West - PG 23. John Stockton - PG 24. Moses Malone - C 25. Steve Nash - PG
Wilt and Russell are both low IMO. I get that the eras are different, but they could only work with what they had. But one is considered one of, if not the greatest defender of all time, and has 11 titles in 13 seasons. The other is considered one of, if not the most dominant scorer of all time that would have been successful in any era. The really great players would have been great in any era and those 2 would.
4 rankings i find absurd 1. Curry is top 10 (not debatable) 2. KOBE AT 10??? ARE YOU CRAZYYY (should be top 5, just above shaq) 3. How do you not have jokic top 25? 4. Lebron over Jordan still is absolutely obnoxious to me. I like the rest of the list
Putting Knicks legend, Taj Gibson at number 1 was certainly a bold but respectable move
I love it
16 is a special number to Karl Malone but I am glad that he got completely skipped. That was hilarious.
He just not good enough to be that high
@MrD1wan at least have Kobe higher if he gonna skip him.
@@Stimulation334Kobe ain't even top 15
@@jougum9835 I put Kobe at 5.
@MrD1wan WHO TF CARES
Skipping past Karl Malone was funny😂
why
@@kennychen5252look him up…
@@kennychen5252he got a 13y.o pregnant when he was playing
@@shagsy91before the nba, it was in college, he was still a grown ass man but he wasn't pro yet
@@shagsy91what he did was horrible. How good he was on the court is undeniable tho
I’m sorry but Isaiah Thomas 2 time champ as best player, below Stockton and Nash is crazy.
He is better than Nash.
Facts. Isiah top 13-20
He had bill lambeer on his team hurting people.
Exactly
Thomas is the third best PG of all time. 2nd if you don’t consider Curry a PG
I’m a huge Nash guy, but him over Wade and Giannis is borderline insane to me😭.
Nash not even an honable mention. He just not a top 40 player.
@@Stimulation334 I think he’s top 40 but he’s over people who have done more than him for a longer time which is insane.
@@mr.longjohn0014 Nash had a long career but he wasn't that good at anything. He steph with out the defense, the handles and the ability to finish at the rim.
@@Stimulation334bro what he a 2 time mvp and a valuable player to any team
@@Stimulation334I got him at 35
Steve Nash over Giannis Jokic & Wade is ABSURD
Nah, it’s not really. Wade had a really short prime (05-11) and a 1 year peak (09). Giannis and Jokic haven’t had enough time to be on all time leaderboards. Nash’s prime was a decade long and yeah he’s not a champion but the man had to face the Spurs dynasty, and Shaq n Kobe. And he was a playoff riser so it wasn’t his fault
It’s his opinion
@@No-xo1kxok so a 0 ring 2 time fraud mvp is better than a 1 time champion 2 time mvp and 1 time finals mvp with dpoy. Even as a Canadian I just can’t say he’s better than jokic, giannis, and wade.
I agree over jokic and Gianni’s, but over WADE IS ABSURB
@@andMango1nah not over Jokic and Giannis
Steve Nash over D-Wade? Man stop
Thank you
No
Wade is better than nash
Your right
Get Steve Nash tf outta here. He is so overrated.
Hakeem at 12 hurts my heart
I tend to have Hakeem at 11, with Steph lower, so he's in the right place for me. My top-10 has exactly the same players as Matt.
hakeem top ten. greatest 2 way player ever
Better than steph
I know he was in honorable mentions but Wade absolutely should have been in the top 25
Here is my top 30
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Tim Duncan
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Kobe Bryant
8. Shaquille O’Neal
9. Stephen Curry
10. Bill Russell
11. Hakeem Olajuwon
12. Wilt Chamberlain
13. Kevin Durant
14. Julius Erving
15. Moses Malone
16. Jerry West
17. Oscar Robertson
18. Scottie Pippen
19. Isiah Thomas
20. Dwyane Wade
21. David Robinson
22. Kevin Garnett
23. Dirk Nowitzki
24. Kawhi Leonard
25. Giannis Antetokounmpo
26. Nikola Jokic
27. John Havlicek
28. Rick Barry
29. Elvin Hayes
30. George Mikan
solid list bro
Sold but I switch bill and Hakeem because my rule is if you have bill you have to have wilt
Solid list
Solid but I don’t think Kawhi should be here and over Giannis
Put tim where Bill at and put wilt at 3rd and move everybody down.
Wade is the best slasher in modern NBA history, along with everything else he did for sure he’s top 20-25
What else did he do? His whole career is injuries. Wade is a legend but he had a 7 year prime and virtually no longevity. 37th in points, 47th in AST, 33rd in STL. And more blocks than Joakim Noah 😂 that’s wild
@@No-xo1kxok and? His prime was still insane and he has some hardware
@@No-xo1kxbro wdym what else he did he had 3 rings, 1 finals mvp, some all team first teams, and a gold medal, most of the people above dwade feom 20-25 had either no chips or one, D wade is top 3 SG of all time, yea he didnt get as many stats as most people on the list and had rlly bad longevity but still had a lot more success than a lot of these players like Karl Malone, Steve Nash, and John Stockton, thats ehy he is so good and deserves to be on this list
@No-xo1kx Having rlly good career with playoff success but with bad longevity and bad stats for a superstar is better than having a good career with long longevity and rlly good career stats, but no playoff sucess, and the thing is when D Wade was in his prime we was pretty much unstoppable with his speed and an amazing scorer and one of the best Shooting Guard shot blockers of all time, D Wade is elite amd did more than some players who had longer careers than him💀
💯
Curry not in at least the top 10 is crazy
He’s not in the top ten, he should be number 13
As a curry super fan 11 is good.
@@G_Money100arguably in top 10
@@oak2movin354he’s 10 and 9 if he wins another championship
@ hes top 10 already...
Rick barry as an honorabel mention is crazy😂
Wade not being top 25 is absolutley absurd
Putting wembanyama at 10 already was a bold move to say the least
I like how you properly rate Shaq. Easily a top 4-7 player of all time. Jokic & Kawhi should be on the list. Steph should be in the top 10. Kobe should be a few spots higher… and MJ should be #1.
I understand why you picked LJ... but I watched both...MJ is by far the Goat
Mike at 2 is wild🤦♂️
Karl Malones section was so in depth 😂riveting 😂
It's Sunday. The Mailman doesn't deliver on Sunday.
I respect your ball knowledge putting Jimmy Butler at #1 SROS, us heat fans understand just how much of a dawg he really is.
Not having DWade in the top 25 is laughable. He’s closer to 10 than 30 all time
Agreed
Nah man. Wade is good but defo in the 20s, no way in the teens
@@XIN3OHdcheck his resume. If he wqs healthy he might have been in the top 10
@@MorganSon23but he wasn’t healthy so
@@MorganSon23"if"
Leaving the third best SG ever in D Wade off this list is crazy.
Is Jerry West a pg?
Dirk Nowitzki at #21 is disrespectful. Consistent 50-win seasons in the toughest division in NBA history. Never had a great supporting cast. Still won a Championship and beat several hall of famers in that run (in two of those series there were THREE HOFers in the same damn team). Not to mention his signature one-legged fadeaway, 21 years in Dallas, and the fact that he literally changed the game of basketball.
Nah im sorry, but im taking Giannis, Wade, and Jokic over anyone you mentioned from 24-20
Giannis and wade yes, jokic not jus yet but close
@@ayeyo6732 if you take Giannis (which you should) I think In my opinion gotta take Jokic too. That playoff run was to elite compared to the 20-25 guys.
All guys u have watched , makes sense
Wade over Dirk? Come on now, lol...
@@prodigyvibez4604 I mainly say Giannis becuz he’s been at super stardom in my opinion for a lil longer and the dpoys with the mvps as well, I only say jokic soon becuz I feel like he wasn’t mentioned in these conversations before this season, but I fs think within the next two seasons, maybe even after this next season depending on how it goes for Denver, jokic will/can be right there wit Giannis, jus my opinion tho, I definitely see ur argument
Putting Pat Burke at 5 for his 2k ability shocked me at first but now I completely understand!
Nah I'm sorry but putting Jokic as an honourable mention and not putting him top 20 is crazy. And putting LeBron over Jordan because it's a "Generational thing" is crazy.
Main gripes are that Shaq and Wilt need to be lower, Kobe and Magic and Curry need to be higher, and IT and Wade need to be on the list in place of Nash and Stockton. Iverson should also be mentioned as an honorable mention. But obviously wasn’t going to agree with everything, still a great video
Shaq lower and Wilt higher.
Boy u must be high WILT and Shaq is top 5 of all time u want to place hype over dominance
Wilt at 4 and Bill at 8 just doesn’t make sense.
Yup should've swapped them
Wilt should be 3rd and Bill should be 6th
You can never put Wilt above Bill, never, it only takes 20 minutes of research to learn about how Bill always dominated Wilt and how Wilt was all stats as Bill was a winner
Agree, i thought the ranking is about the achievements, and bill has a better resume than wilt and most of the list above him.
@@Stimulation334are you on drugs? Wilt at 3?? Wilt should be at 15
Something cool about Jerry West is that yes he was a 5 time all defensive selection but that was the most he could've possibly gotten because they only created that accolade the last five seasons that West played
Also he was only player to be named finals mvp when losing finals. Plus has some of the coolest nicknames "The Logo" and "Mr. Clutch"
Props for having the courage to release this list Matt. Love your content mate, although I do disagree with your top 25. Everyone has a different opinion! 👍👍
After his 3rd MVP the Joker is definitely on this list now
My List:
1. MJ
2. Bron
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Timmy
6. Kobe
7. Bird
8. Bill
9. Shaq
10. Curry
11. Wilt
12. Hakeem
13. KD
14. Big O
15. Jerry West
16. Moses Malone
17. KG
18. Wade
19. Dirk
20. Erving
21. Karl Malone
22. Giannis
23. Chuck
24. Elgin Baylor
25. Scottie Pippen
Honourable Mentions: Kawhi, Jokic, Zeke, Stockton, AI and Havlicek (Can’t choose between those 2)
your top 10 is the same as mine but i have bill over bird
@@redheadd thats fine I could totally see that
Dwayne Wade MUST be in here.
I like the respect of putting steve nash at 24th until you realize it was over Giannis, and even tho it was said that the “honorable mentions could be put anywhere from 20-25” Baylor, Wade and Jokic not making your cut i mean, wow. I think play-off success specially for someone you’re considering to be a top 25th player should be a thing in someway or another, not reaching the finals even once is just unacceptable.
Lol typical Gen z that doesn't have a clue how much greater Michael Jeffrey Jordan is than leflopp it's hilarious
Thank you for not overrating Kobe
So it's ok to underrate him then? Kobe should of been top 3
@@kckc7140I’m taking mj,LeBron,Kareem,Duncan,magic,bird over Kobe.
@@Jajsnsjsn kobes got more rings than bird and had a way longer prime, bird had back injuries 10 years into his career, Kobe is an 18 x all-star and 15x all nba with more rings, more career points, more finals appearances, bird has no argument other then white media guys love him so they put him on a pedal stool that's his only argument, duncan and Kobe played in the same era and yet from 2000-2010 Kobe was featured in the NBA finals 7 times, more than any player of that era, while having 5 rings to match Duncan's 5, while having a poverty team for a couple years, there goes Duncan's argument over Kobe, LeBron is a product of the media and because of his Jewish connects in the media they have pushed him to the top of the list by manipulation of the peoples minds, only people that have a legit argument over Kobe are MJ and Kareem that's it
@@kckc7140 Duncan never had a season under 50 wins he also never had a top 5 teammate like shaq. Bird played in the most competitive era in basketball. He is also Jordan’s kryptonite. LeBron has more everything besides championships than Kobe.
@@kckc7140Kobe just not better than kareem or wilt. I put him at 5.
Watched both MJ and LeBron. It isn’t that close, MJ is the clear no.1
ha puro k mj bron
Nash doesn’t belong. And Havlicek is a huge oversight.
D-Wade not in the top 25 is a dealbreaker
Your obviously way too young to make any type of accurate rankings! I'll chalk it up to ignorance. 😢
Maybe I'm crazy but I got giannis way higher over a bunch of these guys. 2 mvps a dpoy and a chip
Ranking by position makes more sense. Different positions involve different skill sets and different roles. When you lump everybody together you end up comparing apples with oranges.
Nash over Isaiah Thomas is crazy
Steve Nash has no argument to be over Giannis . Giannis has more accolades, Better numbers, a chip as well . But overall , nice list
Having Wilt over Bill explains why you have LeBron over Jordan. Doesn’t matter what you do if you can’t finish the job.
Stockton leads AST AND STL tho. Thats fcn crazy. Some might start him in their all time 5
7:51 had me weak🤣💀
I was dying😂
If you’re 24 dirk is definitely not from your era
Dirk was drafted before Matt was born...
You guys can roast me but I have Jokic🃏 over KD
Having lezionist at #1 is hilarious
I d argue that Kyrie Irving (who maybe isnt even in my top 75) is better than Nash this is nuts
Jordan number 2?!! *spits out drink*
it’s 2023 my guy
W for having nash in here. People don’t realize every team he started on basically had the highest offensive rating for that year. Also I would have jokic in here based just on his peak alone
bro refused to talk ab malone 💀
Rightfully so
I think the only thing I don't agree with Is KG and Dirk being too low In comparison to someone like time duncan(Yeah they're both worse but put them on that 2000s spurs team and they probably get 3-5 rings too lol) I also would say not even Including dwayne wade on the list Is crazy!!!!!, Also I'm not a guy who's gonna set here and put someone like Bill russel who won a bunch of rings when there were 9 teams In the league. I know some of these players are legacy picks but I just cannot bring myself to put someone who had all their success In the 60s above people we saw dominate one of the toughest eras of the 2000s Western conference
For me it’s
1. MJ
2. Bron
3. Kareem
4. Duncan
5. Bird
6. Kobe
7. Magic
8. Hakeem
9. Shaq
10. Wilt
11. Curry
12. Bill Russell
13. Moses Malone
14. KD
15. KG
16. Big O
17. D wade
18. Dr J
19. Giannis
20. Isiah Thomas
21. D rob
22. Jokic
23. Dirk
24. Haram Malone
25. West
my list
1.MJ
2.Bron
3.Kareem
4.Magic
5.Shaq
6.Wilt
7.Duncan
8.Bird
9.Kobe
10.Curry
11. Hakeem
12. Big O
13. KD
14. Russell
15. KG
16. Dirk
17. Malone
18. Barkley
19. Dr.J
20. Robinson
21. Jerry West
22. Wade
23. Elgin Baylor
24. Giannis
25. Moses
****Joker 26th honorable mention
That’s my favorite one so far
Im sorry but i clicked off the video when i saw that Jokic and Wade didnt crack the list
This is major cap
Nah, Matt. I most of the time respect your NBA takes, but this video right here... Absolutely horrible list!
Thx for the Steve Nash love 💜🧡
Lebron is a beast,
But Jordan is unstoppable
Wrong choice
It’s 2023 my guy 1a 1b
Giannis should be wayyyy higher and Jokic is easily top 25. Nash over Jokic is just dumb in every way
Giannis isn’t no Bob Cousy tho.
The real 🐐 no 🧢
Duncan at 9, Hakeem at 12 and no dwade is absolutely insane
hakeem at 12 and duncan at 9 is criminal imo
ikr duncan is wayy too low hakeem should be atleast 11 aswell
he hates defensive goats i think
It's his list of top 25 not ya'll
Wade over Nash
Bird/magic over Shaq all day
MJ the goat.
Naz Reid at #3 was a solid choice. You sir, know ball
2:35 incredible shot making ability
Kobe at 10 is crazy. Kobe is at least top 5 if not top 3. And also having Nash over Wade is ridiculous.
You did Malone dirty 😂
He was nice to put him at 16. He ruined Kobe and shaq's 4peat. He a well known playoffs choker. I rather have Stockton at 16th.
@@Stimulation334 Shaq and Kobe ruined their 4peat.
Wilt not only over Russell but at 4 is crazy
Yes, Wilt is #1.
hows it crazy? why does having championships matter more than whos the literal best player when talking about whos the best player?? bill russell literally had some of the best teammates
what?@@UnconventionalReasoning
i think to understand this u need to watch nba@@justinhuynh9982
1. MJ
2. LeBron
3. Wilt
4. Kareem
5. Shaq
6. Magic
7. Bird
8. Big O
9. Timmy D
10. Bill Russell
11. Hakeem
12. Steph
13. John Stockton
14. Dr J
15. Moses Malone
16. Charles Barkley
17. Karl Malone
18. David Robinson
19. Kobe
20. Jokic
21. Giannis
22. Jerry West
23. KG
24. KD
25. Dirk
lol that list is delusional. Kobe at 19 and shaq at 5. When Kobe has more rings and accomplishments is unbelievable. Stockton and Malone never won the finals.
Putting mosses moody at 1 is a crazy take
My Top 25 list:
1) MJ
2) LeBron
3) Kareem
4) Wilt
5) Magic
6) Bird
7) Bill Russell
8) Shaq
9) Duncan
10) Kobe
11) Curry
12) Hakeem
13) KD
14) Robertson
15)Jerry West
16) Moses Malone
17) Giannis
18) Karl Malone
19) KG
20) Dirk
21) David Robinson
22) Dr.J
23) Jokic
24) Barkley
25) Stockton
Kd 13 its jok😂😂😂😂
I knew I liked SROS him havin Bron as the goat is just confirmation
He glazed the sky hook with Kareem, found every footage of him doing a sky hook, and put it in the video.
I actually have a tough time ranking Lebron and Jordan. On one hand Jordan’s 87-93 seasons was the greatest peak of any basketball player. On the other hand, Lebron has played for 21 seasons and was realistically the best player in the world for about 12-14 of those seasons.
Its just splitting hairs at this point. But when it comes to the conversation of the GOAT I just don't understand why its only between those 2. I never saw Kareem play, but based on a whole basketball career from start to finish nobody has been more successful, and he had the most unstoppable move in basketball that nobody has managed to replicate
Duncan at 9 is criminal
My top 100
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul jabbar
3. Wilt chamberlain
4. Larry bird
5. Kobe Bryant
6. Shaquille o Neal
7. Hakeem Olajuwon
8. Bill Russell
9. Tim Duncan
10. Kevin Durant
11. Jerry west
12. Elgin Baylor
13. Julius Erving
14. Magic Johnson
15. Moses Malone
16. Scottie pippen
17. John Havlicek
18. Pete Maravich
19. Dominique Wilkins
20. Clyde drexler
21. Kevin mchale
22. Stephen curry
23. Lebron james
24. Isiah Thomas
25. Kevin Garnett
26. Dirk nowitzki
27. Allen iverson
28. George gervin
29. David Robinson
30. Giannis antetokounmpo
31. Kawhi Leonard
32. Oscar Robertson
33. Patrick Ewing
34. Paul pierce
35. Nikola jokic
36. Willis reed
37. Karl Malone
38. Rick Barry
39. Steve Nash
40. Ray Allen
41. Bob Pettit
42. Bob Cousy
43. Elvin Hayes
44. John Stockton
45. Tracy mcgrady
46. Vince Carter
47. Reggie miller
48. Robert parish
49. George Mikan
50. James harden
51. Anthony Davis
52. Kyrie Irving
53. Dwyane Wade
54. Jason Kidd
55. Wes unseld
56. Tony Parker
57. Russell Westbrook
58. Dennis Johnson
59. Gary Payton
60. James worthy
61. Bob mcadoo
62. Damian lillard
63. Alex English
64. Pau gasol
65. Tiny archibald
66. Walt Frazier
67. Dave cowens
68. Jo Jo white
69. Bernard king
70. Carmelo Anthony
71. Luka doncic
72. Jaylen brown
73. Dennis Rodman
74. Jayson Tatum
75. Klay Thompson
76. Chris Bosh
77. Joe dumars
78. Bill Walton
79.Nate Thurmond
80. Bob Lanier
81. Sam jones
82. Derrick rose
83. Adrian dantley
84. Earl Monroe
85. Paul Arizin
86. Artis Gilmore
87. Alonzo mourning
88. Chris Mullin
89. Tim hardaway
90. Manu ginobili
91. Chris Webber
92. David Thompson
93. Drazen Petrovic
94. Rajon rondo
95. Shai gilgous Alexander
96. Anthony Edwards
97. Jrue holiday
98. Chris Paul
99. Mark price
100. Paul George
Players who miss the cut : Charles Barkley Dwight Howard Jimmy butler Joel embiid Devin booker Isaiah Thomas draymond green Derrick white Kristaps porzingis Al horford Jamal Crawford demar derozan
I got Steph at #1. Skill and true shooting percentage matter. He is the only player on the list who took a crappy team to one of the longest dynasty runs in NBA history.
I am not going to judge you for your rankings in the Top 10 because you specifically said you are 24 and hasn't seen many of the players in the past. But can somebody tell me, how can you have Curry outside of the Top Ten of All Time when he has the same amount of rings from the same era as the guy you have as #1?
10 finals and longevity maybe? Except for 3 point shooting and ft shooting there is nothing he does better. Don't be biased man. He's played way lesser. Had crazy help, etc. And still reached fewer finals.
Steph should be top 10 leading a dynasty, changed basketball, greatest shooter of all time, and is in some peoples opinion The goat Pg
should have kept it the way it was and not made a ranking this was borderline ridiculous
mine are michael jordan, kareem abdul jabbar , wilt chamberlin, larry bird, kobe bryant, jerry west, pete maravich, bill russell, shaquille o'neal, dr. j
Love the LeBron pick at 1
(Tier 1)
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
4. Larry Bird
5. Magic Johnson
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Wilt Chamberlain
8. Bill Russell
(Tier 2)
9. Steph Curry
10. Shaquille Oneal
11. Tim Duncan
12. Kevin Durant
13. Hakeem Olajuwon
14. Nikola Jokic
15. Giannis Antetokounmpo
16. Luka Doncic
(Tier 3)
17. Oscar Robertson
18. Jerry West
19. Julius Erving
20. Moses Malone
21. Kevin Garnett
22. Dirk Nowitzki
23. Charles Barkley
24. Karl Malone
25. Dwayne Wade
(Tier 4)
26. Isiah Thomas
27. John Stockton
28. David Robinson
29. John Havlicek
30. Kawhi Leonard
31. Rick Barry
32. Scottie Pippen
33. Bob Pettit
34. Steve Nash
35. Chris Paul
36. Jason Kidd
Bill and Wilt should be next to each other personally
Hype for this vid!
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Larry Bird
5. Magic Johnson
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Hakeem Olajuwon
8. Shaquille O’Neal
9. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
10. Tim Duncan
11. Bill Russell
12. Stephen Curry
13. Oscar Robertson
14. Kevin Durant
15. Julius Erving
16. Jerry West
17. Moses Malone
18. Karl Malone
19. Dirk Nowitzki
20. Kevin Garnett
21. Charles Barkley
22. Dwyane Wade
23. David Robinson
24. Allen Iverson
25. Isaih Thomas
This is why kids shouldn't speak on great players list when they lack knowledge of the entire nba
I can’t believe Pat Bev didn’t even get an honorable mention smh
LeBron at 1 is crazy
With all due respect Bill Russell , Larry Bird and Shaquille O’Neal shouldn’t be over Tim and Kobe
1.LeBron James
2.Michael Jordan
3.Kobe Bryant
4.Stephen Curry
5.Kevin Durant
6.Paul George
7.Klay Thompson
8.Kawhi Leonard
9.Damian Lillard
10.Jayson Tatum
11.Carmelo Anthony
12.Anthony Edwards
13.Devin Booker
14.DeMar DeRozan
15.Jimmy Butler
16.Larry Bird
17.Shaquille O’Neal
18.Kyrie Irving
19.Nikola Jokic
20.Luka Doncic
21.Anthony Davis
22.James Harden
23.Trae Young
24.Zach Lavine
25.Donovan Mitchell
my top 25 if anyone cares
1. Lebron James - SF
2. Michael Jordan - SG
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - C
4. Shaquille O'Neal - C
5. Kobe Bryant - SG
6. Stephen Curry - PG
7. Magic Johnson - PG
8. Tim Duncan - PF
9. Kevin Durant - SF
10. Larry Bird - SF
11. Hakeem Olajuwon - C
12. Kevin Garnett - PF
13. Giannis Antetokounmpo - PF
14. Bill Russell - C
15. Nikola Jokic - C
16. Wilt Chamberlain - C
17. Dwyane Wade - SG
18. Dirk Nowitzki - PF
19. Oscar Robertson - PG
20. Julius Erving - SF
21. Charles Barkley - PF
22. Jerry West - PG
23. John Stockton - PG
24. Moses Malone - C
25. Steve Nash - PG
Wilt and Russell are both low IMO. I get that the eras are different, but they could only work with what they had. But one is considered one of, if not the greatest defender of all time, and has 11 titles in 13 seasons. The other is considered one of, if not the most dominant scorer of all time that would have been successful in any era. The really great players would have been great in any era and those 2 would.
4 rankings i find absurd 1. Curry is top 10 (not debatable) 2. KOBE AT 10??? ARE YOU CRAZYYY (should be top 5, just above shaq) 3. How do you not have jokic top 25? 4. Lebron over Jordan still is absolutely obnoxious to me. I like the rest of the list
BRON over MJ is mad bro 😂
it’s 2023 and mfs are still mad about bron being over mj or mj being over bron😭 it’s preference man