Best Scene - "Steel isn't strong boy" - Conan the Barbarian (1982) (HD-720p)
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- Thulsa Doom tells Conan what strength is in a great scene from Conan the Barbarian
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RIP to the legend, James Earl Jones 🫡
indeed. one of the greats.
the only black man that didn't look out of place in sword and sorcery fantasy. legendary feat
@@cagneybillingsley2165 Only one? There were lots of black people and characters that lived in Howard's Hyborian Age.
@@cagneybillingsley2165 Odd thing to say...
The word "legendary" is too small a word to describe James Earl Jones's career and influence. He was beyond legendary.
'The ability of steel is insignificant next to the power of the Force"
LOL XD
😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"I find your lack of faith disturbing."
Conan: What in Crom’s name is the Force?
Actors aren’t made like him anymore, one of my favorites of all time.
RIP😢
Bro was a Shakespearean Actor
Ideas and stories aren't as great to utilize the current actors..
Yes they are. Pull your head from your ass numbnuts.
@@rancorloverthis too…
Plenty of actors that have come after him that are just as great. Is he in the pantheon of ALL TIME GREATS? emphatically; yes. But to say "actors aren't made like him anymore" does a massive disservice to some great actors we have in our time RIGHT NOW, such as Denzel Washington, Tom Hanks, Tom Hardy and even some of the newer generation actors who are doing phenomenal work such as Austin Butler, Timothee Chalamet, and even Robert Pattinson.
James Earl Jones: a voice you'd follow off a cliff
marshmallowbudgie literally
The voice of God
@@lillianpandola9963 LITERALLY! There's a series of Bible audio books narrated by Jones....Can you imagine? His voice is how you imagine God's voice to be.
Into a heard of stampeding wildebeest
Him and Geoffrey Holder. Two greatest voices ever.
This monolouge is so underrated. A tyrant on a level that is Godlike in his realm. Picking life and death to prove a point for sake of character development.
Well hé is a demigod
Thulsa Doom is an amazing villain.
And unlike the next villains, he’s not desperately trying to be intimidating. He’s just naturally speaking and that’s terrifying.
@@pop-culturecinephile8144
You GET it.
Yes I do
"Look at the strength of your body.The desire in your heart.I GAVE YOU THIS."
Such a waste...
Thulsa sais this to Conan like it was a good positive thing he did to his village. Conan should be thankful and not pissed off.
@@StuartRyan-yi5ok With every evil comes good and the opposite is also true.
that could be said by my ex when I went to bodybuilding after she cheated on me :))
@@lazarusblackwell6988In this realm Good & Bad or Evil coexist yet they ain't ready for the Dual nature of God Almighty or the built-in one within his creation
He just straight up told Conan, "Bitch, you should be thanking me. I made you a strong ass swordsman."
"You should thank me before i die for the gravel in your gut and the steel in your eye..."
This is actually a well produced and directed film with good cinematography, pretty good acting- even from Arnold- a great score from a master of his craft, and engaging story. Under-rated film.
Soundtrack is soooo good!
Agreed on all points.
Great Movie
The international makes it even better (us dvd release had this cut, but not the blu ray for some reason...)
Under-rated…Who told you that?
I remember the first time I watched this movie, having expected a generic fantasy schlockfest full of classic style Arnie moments. Lord of the Rings as an 80s Arnold movie, I suppose.
And I got this. A surprisingly thoughtful, slow movie filled with quiet moments like we see here. And I'm supremely happy about that.
Thulsa doom, played here by Mufasa, is the reason vampires exist in the Marvel Universe.
Funny enough in the original comics, Conan is by no means a fool
He later sits upon the Throne of Aquilonia and rules an entire kingdom, powerful as an ox and as clever as a fox
He's pretty dangerous
@@xxdomoxxkunxx Damn straight. Not to mention the Mako voice over granting at least +50 to all stats.
LOTR isn't "generic fantasy".....
@@TheBlackFrog79 yeah actually. Conan is closer to history than your kid story.
156 thumbs-downers need to contemplate the epicness of this on the Tree of Woe.
delavalmilker Crucify them.
A woeful but epic comment
\o/
And eat vultures
LFMAO
_"Look at the strength of your body. The desire in your heart. I gave you this!"_
Chills.
Lone Star Thulsa Doom ain't give him shit.
Except misery and a chance for revenge.
Jose M. Figueroa Jr. That's part of the point, his decision to have Conan be enslaved was what gave Conan the body he has, a great might and toned features, the man who bought him gave him everything else except the lessons taught by his father, including freedom when the slave owner felt that he had created a monster.
Box Tank! Valid points. Problem is, Thulsa Doom took everything away from Conan. His people, his family, even his father's sword. And Conan nearly lost his cultural identity. Please don't get me wrong. I get what you are saying, I really do.
Jose M. Figueroa Jr. I understand your points completely, and I never did say that he gave the first two to him intentionally? Who's to say he was even to know that Conan would be picked by a slave owner and made a deadly force? He may be powerful but he is not omniscient nor is he omnipotent.
Box Tank! The first two were intentional. That's why I said valid points. Thulsa Doom unintentionally gave Conan too much of a chance to plan on avenging his people, and should have killed the Cimmerian when the Stygian demigod had a chance to. Instead, Conan, later on in the movie, took the opportunity to kill Thulsa Doom. At least Conan was still alive to do it.
And eventually become the king of Aquilonia by his own hand, wearing a crown upon a troubled brow.
Thulsa Doom knew that Conan would be given to a slave trader. The Stygian demigod might have foreseen it.
We lost a giant today. RIP
Rest in Peace James Earl Jones. You'll be missed
I mean, yeah, Vader was evil. But it was just Jones's voiceover. He actually got some villain screen time in this one, and you can tell he was enjoying it.
Chris Hudson Respect
Yes and he was beyond all awesomeness. One of greatest movie villains of all time.
In an interview, James once said (paraphrasing) "Only the nicest people can understand what true villainy is"
Imagine how fun it must be to play Thulsa Doom.
Thulsa Doom was THE MAN, brah👍 There aren't any ifs, ands, or buts about it
He can get beautiful maidens to leap to their death. He can toss you on the Tree of Woe like you're nothing. Yea, that's pretty much earning your name: Thulsa Doom lol.
The other two villains are called Doctor Doom and Judge Doom
SOMEBODY earned their stuntwoman credits that day!
actually, the one who jumped was a man and its a Guinness world record for the highest free fall stunt jump in a movie
Take that feminists XDDD
jpteknoman The male freefall record in a movie is Dar Robinson in Sharky's Machine, 220 feet. Any resource that I can find online cites female stuntwoman Corrie Jansen as being the one performing the freefall here from a height of 182 feet.
Take that alt-right wing XDDD
Was actually a guy, and is still the longest freefall by a stuntperson to this day, I believe....over 140 (or 150?) feet.
My favorite role James Earl Jones ever done, RIP James
The whole movie is epic. Always loved the soundtrack.
I’ve actually used this monologue for auditions years ago and got the parts. Probably, because the few directors were Arnold or James Earl Jones fans and few recited this.
To this day, when I’m looking or processing something I audibly say, “Seek” like when Thulsa Doom straightened the snake as an arrow to kill one of the thieves 🏹
"That is strenght, boy, that IS POWAH!"
You can really hear Darth Vader's voice. Love it James Earl Jones.
The POWAH of the Dark Side!
JD POWAH and Associates
UNNNNNNLIIIMMMITTEEDDD POOOOOWWWWAAHHHHH!!!!!
I don't do handshakes.
Its seems to me that a lot of people want to take the Riddle of Steel more literally when it's probably meant to be more metaphorical. The film starts with a quote from Nietzsche, "That which does not kill us, makes us stronger." which is then followed by imagery of Conan's father forging a sword. This part is the key to the riddle. When a sword is forged the metal has to be exposed to extreme heat then hammered and folded over and over again in order to take shape and to work out the impurities in the metal, and finally quenched in order to temper the blade. The metaphor here is that "steel" is what a person becomes after they have gone through extreme hardships and by doing so have allowed their "impurities" and weaknesses to be hammered out and burned off in order to become a better, stronger, more resilient person. To be more precise, "steel" is a person's will, or their sense of belief and confidence in themselves. So when Conan's father says to him, "This you can trust." What he meant was that ultimately the only thing you can absolutely rely on and trust, is yourself. But only once you've overcome your own weaknesses by forging and tempering yourself in the fires of hardship. It seems as though Thulsa Doom almost understood the riddle but his understanding is tainted by his desire for power. He views it merely as an insight into how to control and dominate people. Conan, on the other hand, has no real interest in controlling anyone. He just wanted the strength and will to have his revenge.
How is that individualism vs collectivism?
Is Conan individualism and Doom collectivism?
Agreed. How Thulsa gets the girl to jump to her death while calling her "my child" is a perfect metaphor for the relationship of of the left (collectivists) and it's followers today.
::slow clapping::
Not like Nationalism hasn't killed hundreds of millions.
WWI was caused by Nationalism, WWi was a direct cause of WWII, those constitue over a hundred million. Then there's the Hundred Years War, Colonialism (a form of Nationalism), the thousands of years of general conflict across the world caused by tribalistic actions. Hundreds of millions.
The dialogue in this is so poetic, the direction so epic. This film really was ahead of its time when you look at the hockey B-Movie craps that surrounded it.
Agree 100%
Yea totally right
This movie is cheesy in so many ways but Thulsa Doom is an amazing villain.
Don't mistake my comment for dislike of the movie, this is my favorite fantasy movie of all time.
Ninja Viking Supreme because is a lider hes a madman he comands respect hes no men for those people his a god
I really loved how they were able to paint how the conan books aren't just pages of brainless stabby slash kill, they manage to portray the pretty complex character of conan and the world he lives in.
One of my favourite Conan stories is where he's one step ahead of a band of cutthroat pirates, laughing at them as they fume and plot. The stories offer an easier path to the inside of Conan's mind. He's not a dumb brute. He's a cunning, observant, SMART brute.
@@ZaprozhanI also love how Conan doesn’t always win in the books. The feeling is always, “Wow, that could’ve gone better, but thank God it didn’t go worse.”
This is the work that always comes to my mind when I think of James Earl Jones.
It's the only movie I've seen him in.
Not Darth Vader?
@@Illisil Thulsa Doom is always first.
@@goukeban6197he voiced Darth Vader in Star Wars A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back in 1977 and 1980 before Conan in 1982.
@@scottallen6227James Earl Jones was Admiral Greer in 3 Jack Ryan films The Hunt Red October, Patriot Games and Clear and Present Danger. Jones was also in Field Of Dreams with Kevin Costner.
Thulsa Doom is not describing strength here. The riddle of steel is about the endless pursuit of personal strength, skill, and will power. Doom mocks the riddle and reveals half truths about it to destroy it's true purpose. He understands the riddle, but does not want anyone else to do the same. He wants weak willed followers who are willing to die at his suggestion.
As Thulsa Doom states the riddle of steel is that the flesh (the hand that wields the sword) is stronger than a sword.
The will, the hand that wields the sword is what needs to be conquered. Once he learned that secret (by looking at Conan's mother before killing her) he was not a warrior anymore but a cult leader conquering human minds and will.
The riddle of steel is NOT about the endless pursuit of whatever. The sword is strong as it's the hand that holds it.
Str1000ac You're arguing semantics. Strength, skill, will power ARE the hand that wields the sword. If you can see passed semantics, we agree on this.
Doom understands the riddle, but does not want others to, so he reveals half truths to destroy it's purpose. He was not a warrior anymore but a cult leader conquering human minds and will. If you can see passed semantics, I think we agree on this too.
If, however, you believe that Thulsa Doom actually revealed the answer to the riddle of steel here, we do disagree. I don't know that's your meaning, it just sounds that way due to your second sentence. I think what he was doing in this clip was trying to pervert Conan's perception of strength. Ultimately, strength, skill, and will power allowed Conan to break his father's sword and resist Thulsa Doom's corruption.
Kitsune Kisama The Riddle of Steel seems to be similar to Varys' Riddle of Power from A Song of Ice and Fire. Power is where men believe it to be. The genius of Conan is his refusal to believe any person who tries to claim power over him.
All interesting, varied takes on the riddle of steel. Pretty cool that such a movie can spur such great discussion!
In my opinion, there is a fascinating dichotomy going on with Thulsa Doom and Conan's true father and their outlooks on what is true strength. Thulsa Doom takes on the unique role as an almost substitute "father" figure to Conan with his harshly doled lessons about life, strength, will, hate, etc.
Thulsa Doom openly taunts Conan in this scene by revealing the true answer to the riddle of steel - the strength of steel is nothing compared to the will of the one who wields it. This baffles him and flies in the face of everything his real father taught him - steel is stronger than men, women, beasts and you can always trust it. Conan finally sees this to be true in his final battle with Rexor, who is ultimately killed when the stolen Cimmerian sword, made by Conan's father, fails him and shatters in two.
Finally, in the penultimate scene of the film, Conan confronts Thulsa Doom and symbolically kills this father-figure with his real father's broken sword. The same father-figure who forged Conan's will to live and ultimately helped him become a man, really, albeit through pain, anguish and suffering. This directly correlates to the opening titles quote from Nietzsche. He both matures and unburdens not only himself but the Followers of Doom. By showing them Thulsa is only a man, he (inadvertently?) helps them find the will to extinguish their torches and return to their lives. Conan is now the master of the his own destiny; he will no longer let any man hold dominion over him and is set on the path to one day be king. Truly a wonderfully written character evolution imho. Just my take.
+PJ Worth Yeah this movie is definitely next-level. One of those rare gems that appears schlocky and ridiculous on the surface but actually contains a surprising amount of depth. They don't make action movies like they used to, I say.
Great scene! James Earl Jones is a national treasure!
Agreed
As a kid, I went in to watch this film because of Arnie and Conan, only to proceed to be mesmerized just as equally by Thulsa Doom. A hero is only as powerful as his nemesis, and James Earl Jones elevated Doom and this whole picture's stakes with his magnificient acting. A truly spellbinding actor.
R.I.P
RIP James Earl Jones
What a legendary monologue. RIP to one of the greats.
R.I.P, Mr. Jones ❤
Darth Vader was a dick a long time ago in a galaxy far-far away it seems...
This was made in 1982.
That's 5 years after Star Wars.
kkknotcool it's obvious you missed the joke.
DukeoftheAges
Just straight manning the joke man, I got it.
A time when he used to be referred to as Black Vadar... although he was good at the dark arts.
AT Games ....what??? Just stop. Trying to be racist and funny at the same time are not ur strengths my dude.
Thulsa Doom is so creepy and charismatic, James Earl Jones is a genius at playing truly epic villains.
So long, James.
I'll miss you terribly. The voice of a generation.
Rest in peace Thulsa Doom.
Just heard about James Earl Jones passing. Truly one of the greats! No one's voice will come close to his. No doubt about that.
May the legend himself, James Earl Jones Rest in peace
James Earl Jones absolutely crushing it in this scene.
RIP 🙏
RIP James. The movie that really made me notice him. An incredible actor.
R.I.P. to the Legend himself... We love you James. Earl Jones. Always.
It's both scary and fascinating that many real life people had this much power over their followers! It sounds so tempting!
Konrad Wallenrod Absolute power corrupts absolutely
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nice one 🤣🤣🤣
Come on down to Jonestown, we make some killer Kool-Aid.
@@blairbuskirk5460
Ithere's a misunderstanding here that needs to be resolved- I don't want to follow some "Thulsa Doom" of post-industrial era - I want to be one! I've never followed or obeyed anyone in my life, but I don't know how to get suckers to follow ME! Is there a manual or something??
HAD?? You think the era of brainwashed minds and witless followers is behind us? What history has shown us time and again is that you can worm into the brains of even the smartest people. Either through fear, hatred, lust or greed. All that's needed is for the Despot to ease your conscious mind, to validate and justify whatever it is so that it does not appear evil or grotesque.
RIP KING
RIP, James. Your voice was too good for this world.
Rest in peace :(
rip james earl jones. I hope you're on a better place 😢
"Come to me, my child... wait-WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?!"
**BLAM**
"... Fucking hell. I didn't mean it like that, she coulda taken the ladder."
James Earl Jones is one of the most powerful actors there has ever been.
I will always remember this lesson from Thulsa Doom... RIP James Earl Jones 😞
"Flesh ages, withers, and dies. But Men and their deeds are forever" RIP James Earl Jones.
Very underrated movie, one of my all time favourites.
Who ever underrated Conan The Barbarian? That's the most iconic fantasy movie of the 80's..
Most people have never heard of it. You can't rate a movie you've never heard of.
I think most people remember Mad MAx, Blade Runner, Aliens, Star Wars etc...
I haven't seen it, but this scene made me want to. I didn't know there was even the tiniest bit of subtlety to this movie. It's definitely gone up in my estimation without me having seen much at all.
underrated / it was masterpiece
Whats underrated on it?Its conclusively one of the most famous Arnold films and roles.Actually 2nd most famous one right after Terminator.And that ..."Most people have never heard of it"...what "most people"?Based on what representative sample?Perhaps you simply live next to people who didnt seen much.
Rip to a legend.
RIP legend
Rest in Power. Legendary.
RIP JAMES
RIP James Earl Jones. 🙁
I've always loved this steel vs flesh thing going on.
To me the whole "steel is the only thing you can trust" argument from Corin speaks that strength is about self-determination and freedom. Steel is a tool that you can make you self-dependent and truly free, and that freedom from the wills of others is true strength.
While Thulsa argues that if you master flesh, and it's desires and whims, then you can bend others to serve you and gain freedom by enslaving the wills of others. By mastering the mind your strength goes beyond the material.
Ahhhh yes - we shall never see his like again....
🙏
Will be missed!
he's basically saying guns don't kill people, people do. and as a person who uses people, he uses them as guns. inanimate objects. Tools.
Introgauge . and that the real power is in control people, especially control the people who control the weapons.
+Introgauge .C
yes. here is a song about that :
watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk
Yamato Jihad1488 I'm sorry that you think it "sound dumb".
I always thought it was the conviction to go ahead and actually do something rather than simple flesh being stronger. Whats flesh without the will to do something with it?
I couldn't have said it better myself.
This scene always gave me goosebumps. How is it that your sworn enemy can teach you something you never knew? Flesh and steel isn’t strong, willpower is the strongest.
the acting is the gold of the scene
"Contemplate this on the tree of woe"!
Johnny Wadd woah
no it is 'Woe' ....woe is - great sorrow or distress
Guards:.....uhhh
"Oh for gods sake, CRUCIFY HIM,"
haha sorry this made made me laugh out loud
piplup2009 joey larewnce from blossom: WOAH!
RIP James Earl Jones. Consummate actor
Immediately came here after hearing the news. James was an incredible actor. Rest in peace.
😢😑😪R.I.P James, I will miss your laughter, your true diligence to make a movie to be awesome!!! I'm just in a state of numbness, Frankie Beverly also has left us🕊
May God watch over them an their families...Amen😢
"There, that beautiful girl. Come to me my child." *Crash* "Woops, eehhh uhhh that wasn't supposed to happen. Eww gross. Someone clean that up. Ok now, let's try this again."
you're not that funny
+young mula you're saying he's still funny though
RIP Thulsa Doom
R.i.p. James Earl Jones
What is steel, compared to the man, with that kind of hair?
Tofurkey Its nothing boy
More like Thulsa Swoon
Amirite?
I'll show myself out.
Trollamollex WTF?
Leo Jansen Is this some ignorant racist shit or something? We waar vikangs aannn Ramen genteraltz ann shat maan?
it was the fashion of the time
R.I.P 🌹
Thulsa Doom is the First and most powerful Sith Lord who understand the real power of flesh,not darkness...
Zaidi Saad what is the force compared to the one using it
Not impressed by technological terror.
I agree, Thulsa Doom in someways is light years ahead of Sidious, but Sidious had the politician game down and got big through diplomacy.
Rest In Peace James Earl Jones the actor of Doom…😞🕊️🕊️🕊️
Rest in peace
RIP James Earl Jones.
This scene was inspired by a real life event. A Crusader lord was visiting an arab cult in the desert sometime in teh 1100's, and he reported the exact same devotion followers had, and as the head of the cult was walking with the lord, he had one of his followers on the wall jump to their deaths. It was said that the cult drugged potential new members for days while transporting them to a castle they had built in a remote location. This castle was stocked with food, women and all of lifes top luxurious pleasures. When the new recruit awoke, they were treated as a God and told it was the paradise of the afterlife. Then at some point a few days later they were re-drugged and brought back to the temple. When they awoke they were completely convinced they had been to the paradise that was promised and become unwavering cultists from that point forward.
Wolffe Ahh I didn’t know that this movie scene was inspired by the stories about the Hashashin. But please keep in mind that these we’re stories intended to showcase how evil this religion was and were only told by others. As far as I know they are only considered propaganda and hearsay based on what we know about them.
coronavirus sect now
The Vatican
Was that King Richard the Lionheart who visited Al Mualim or another Crusader Lord?
It's the Hashashin.
0:37 when the bartender asks how I want my drink.
You want a beautiful girl on the rocks?
SUCH A WELL WRITTEN SCENE AND GREAT ACTING. I LOVE THIS MOVIE.
i'm still on the fact he had the girl jump of the ledge killing herself.
this made me laugh way too much! =)
irl me: Ser! it appears that flesh is not stronger than floor!
Flesh destroyed the floor, mate.
Its a stratrgic move, sacrifice a pawn to fuck up the floor
You and 239 others missed the point OR I'm not getting your joke/comment. Then again its 2018 and people these days are VERY sensitive and touchy. Remember kids SLAVE LIVES MATTER.
I love Conan the Barbarian :). James Earl Jones did a great job playing the villain Tulsa. He has a god like voice when he speaks :). That’s how i imagine God sounds like .
The girl though she was in an Assassin's Creed game.
LOL
I love the scene directly after she falls. James Earl jones shows no emotion whatsoever. This whole scene is amazing!
CRUCIFY HIM!
It's kinda interesting how Doom refers to both the physical body and the will/spirit driving as the "Flesh," by including a reference to the desire in Conan's heart.And indeed Conan's defeat of Doom's more numerous and better-armed army proved Doom right, that the flesh was indeed stronger than steel.
Together, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the... wait
At the beggining, if you just look at Thulsa's face, it looks like he is playing with a N64 controller.
Now I see it!
"what is a joystick, compared to the hand that wields it?"
"Flesh grows weak. Steel becomes brittle. But the will is indomitable."
From now on, I'm going to replace "Have a nice day," with "Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe."
A few years ago, before I retired, I walked into our control room one morning to relieve the night operator. He was an overly friendly guy, jocular, but a complete moron, and was known for major errors that endangered out water distribution system. I walked in the room and he wasn't there, he was in the restroom. Quickly scanning the screens, I saw he'd left me a hot steaming pile to try and recover. In he walks all happy and chirpy and begins with his typical greeting. I was so angry that I just cut him off with what could have been a movie line ... "Dispense with the pleasantries, why is this tank almost empty?" He was so taken aback that I heard several days later he had told others, and they began facetiously began using the "dispense with the pleasantries" line with ME!
The basic definition of this is that it's warrior that makes the weapon and not the other way around
Once in a while, TH-cam recommends a video that makes sense. RIP to a great man.
Rest in peace Thulsa Doom (James Earl Jones) 😭. He's right with one thing: steel isn't strong, flesh is stronger.
The past two years of our world has made me think of this scene occasionally.
When Darth Vader says "Crucify him" is so amazingly epic, there are no words.
The words are "crucify him."
His second best role.....Powerful, memorable, and eternal. RIP
Truly one of the most underappreciated and underused talents in hollywood
I have watched this film with my dad when I was a kid. It just hit me that this is James Earl Jones years later. RIP to the legend.
Always the dark lord, Sir James was the embodiment of evil in Thulsa Doom, thank you
Arnies acting is very underrated here. He was made for this role
James Earl Jones adds such gravity and poise to any role he plays! One of the greatest of all time.
RIP Legend. You will not be forgotten. Very nice man.
James Earl Jones - His voice is magnificent. I would love to have seen him do Shakespeare.
ArmouredKat He did do some stage work, even though he probably didn't do Shakespeare.
he did his share of shakespeare, including othello and king lear
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earl_Jones_on_screen_and_stage
Man I miss Jones already....
"Conan my son, you must never go beyond that which the light does not touch."
Thulsa is such a proper priest/sorcerer from the Hyborian age comics. He researched and courted multiple gods as well as hypnotism and other bizarre and taboo arts to make himself powerful