18:00 there's a bug where your game can get stuck thinking the "ping" key is held down which prevents you from controlling your units at all. That might be what happened to the opponent.
Are you, or is anyone able to elaborate or help us reproduce this? It sounds similar to another known issue but we're not sure if it's the same thing. And it's hard to tell from the video.
At first i was very skeptical of your game, but getting my hands on it i wish i supported it on kick starter. Also this game just needs more time and optimization, my gtx 970 can barely run the game at smooth 60 1080p. if at all @@FrostGiantStudios
@@FrostGiantStudios To elaborate further, my game gets stuck in a state where it thinks I'm holding down the ping hotkey so any action to select or move units just pings the map instead. I can get out of it by pressing down the ping key a few times.
B.O.B. pulls might work but there's such a big snowball effect when they reach low HP and get infested by Gaunts, you don't really wanna have 10 Fiends instead of 10 SCVs after a minute of fighting :D
I like the way you explained all the new mechanics as you encountered them. Like the creep camps, not just saying what it does but also explaining damage types and good opportunities or reasons to take a camp so its easy as a new viewer to follow.
Here's some easy one base cheeses so if you are new you have some kind of build to start with thats easy to execute. Oh I got supply blocked? Good thing I can quick build. Willfully encountering the issues a new player would have and solving them on screen.
The guy in the second game might actually have been telling the truth. I was testing the game out with a friend and i ran into a bug where i literally couldnt select my units for about 45 seconds. It felt so odd at first i thought vanguard had an ability to disrupt control over units or something. (I was playing infernals and my friend was vanguard) That said, those few units versus someone who knows how to stutter step didnt stand a chance in the first place.
you should try a BOB rush w/ overcharge. Since you can overcharge a building CC, iyou can make a CC right outside the oponents vision, overcharge, cancel, then push. I was able to stop it but only because i spotted his BOBs moving out early.
Man, watching you play these games is an absolute joy. You should try playing more RTS games on the channel! It would be sick if you got into Beyond All Reason, for example :)
@@uThermal Awesome! My favorite thing in the game so far is its approach to unit micro. Being able to literally draw your formations on the map is cool as hell
@@uThermal oh cool, I never have played sc2 but watch it all the time on yours and Lowko, but lately I like more watching BAR. So I was planning to say the same as he did and to see you are gonna makes me fill with joy! I only wished that streamers would show more of panorama to see a real battle instead of birds view.
@@uThermalplease do, I'm one of the BAR devs and would love to see your experiences with it. I've often wondered what your pro micro could look like with our enhanced control system. Reach out if you have any questions!
@@uThermal Ride the hype!!! I love the mind games u play regardless of the game. know the meta be the meta....ultimately out play everyone who knows what there doing at a high level and only get beat by others who follow your path or can play a perfect game. XD
You can use overcharge ability offencively for your B.O.B pulls by starting a command center near enemy base, using the overcharge on it and then cancel the command center during the attack. though this will cost 100 lumenites for cancel, but considering it upgrades all of your bobs into a lancer equivalent for a limited time, i think its worth a try.
Please do more Stormgate content. This was really fun to watch. You are already making high quality content for this game. This was legit the best Stormgate video I've ever watched.
Tbh, when I saw the trailer this game came off a lot to me like it took the parts I don't like about starcraft and warcraft and amplified them. Thus far it hasn't really done much to dispel that impression.
I have played the game, it is nice but feels like map=warcraft2; gameplay=StarCraft2, for example the vanguard. Scv = BOB, 50 minerals=50 luminade, then you build your suply depot/meetfarm wich costs 100minerals / 100 luminade!
I think people focuses too much on if it works like WC/SC/other. I dont really think its that relevant. People should be more worried if the gameplay is fun or not
My problem with the game is that i dont see the innivation compared to SC2. Its the same or even worse. The game should.be much more innovative and creative to make a difference. What are your thoughts on this one?
uThermal, have you ever played Tooth and Tail? I was thinking maybe the Vulcan was inspired by the Badger from that game, going by your description. The game is niche, though, so who knows if the devs are even aware of it. It's a pity, because it's a fantastic and unique take on the RTS genre in my opinion. I wonder if you would like it; it's definitely very different from your average RTS.
i actually LOVE the fact that you can't make exos without making tech. marines as a concept are insanely overpowered- evidenced by the fact that your tier 1 unit is almost unanimously voted the best unit in the game, and the fact that you can win games with them exclusively at basically all stages of the game. that being said, pathing and terrain are way more interesting with melee units than ranged units, and i think being able to blow up tech to prevent or delay exos coming out is exciting and a good thing. imo terran units were (and kinda had to be) nerfed by the fact that marines are so strong, and it made the game a little bit linear and less interesting. marines are kinda boring and i'm glad to see the recipe changed a bit in ways that are more counterplay friendly
Throw some Medics with the Dogs and their ability to cast an AoE Heal spell on a dog that will last for ~10-20 seconds healing each second makes their pull-back and micro even MORE rewarding! I think the Dog upgrade for extra attack vs. Light will also be a great idea for sending a few dogs (super cheap) to clear creep camps around the map while adding pressure/macroing.
I think its time to stormgate myguy ride the hype Be the best like no one ever was. ~I have strong feelings for uThermal and his playstyle judge me if you want.
My dream comes closer each time I see my fav cheese players from wc3, grubby and fav. cheese player from sc2 play the same game. One day they will create a new type of cheese.
I wonder if you would enjoy Zero-K, it allows for some pretty crazy strategies with the unit physics and terraforming (and it's free/open source) Beyond All Reason is good too, looks better than Z-K, same Total Annihilation roots, just not as crazy with the things you can do.
Zero-K have everything, awesome "draw on the map to make formations", incredible shared base coop fun (campaign and vs players), or huge 16x16 players games ! imagine playing a game together with 31 of your viewers :)
I've been trying one base and timing attacks and am convinced that cc first into whatever... is essentially a "one base" attack from sc2. So far, making Lancers until you get your 2nd cc and etherium running full force and then pumping out exo's with the upgrade and just going all in from 2 bases is absolutely brutal. You can stutter step micro the upgraded exo's like sc2 marines and they shred everything.
I would love to see you play an RTS that has already been developed and patched. Please. Furthermore, I think it'd be a good way to show a transition to good non-sc2 content. All things aside though, I appreciate you doing these videos as well :)
@@uThermal I know they might wanna look at it, but I feel like they repair slower then in sc, so that may balance it out. Idk ,I just play games I don't make them.
Hey Marc, I fully support you making less videos because you're focusing on merch and other business avenues. But getting all excited for a uThermal post that I finally get.... and it's not SC2..... sad..... I'm really wanting to see some ling / infestor / ultra......
repair is free and this particular map has 4 free mini mineral patches you can claim that randomly spawn in a few set locations. Seems you opponent in the last game farmed a few creep resources camps and also went looking for the free mini patches.
They REALLY need to change it back so that the white health bar weakens when u are off shroud! that was a GREAT limiting factor to the infenerals and really forced them to be more choosy with their engagements. Now they really can attacks and spam without much consequence.
Uthermal: "I think I'll go some 1 base dogs today" How original "With some transition into hornets" Daring today aren't we? Game 2 was cool! Don't think top 200 is GM yet.
Scrolled through the comments to see how many people wrote about home remedy stuff for your cold. None. Here comes one: Ginger and lemon tea. Some people also add garlic and even chili to it. It probably won't work. But maybe if you believe. 😂
Irrally hope that stormgate, not just deliver on its promises. I hope it becomes better, more successful, most influential RTS in gaming and even more fun than SC ever was. However, it's way off atm. I understand its still in alpha and I'm judging what I have in front of me, not its potential. What I'm seeing right now, such balls.
I dont really understand that first game. You had good engages and killed so many early units. But then he still pumped out like twice as many units and won.
Im sorry, this game looks terrible. Im not hating on the stormgate devs because they are balling on a budget, but this game doesn't look better than sc2, wc3 or even sc1. This is sad we have to settle for such bland assets just to have decent gameplay.
uThermal wants to know the meta, so that he can do the complete opposite of that
18:00 there's a bug where your game can get stuck thinking the "ping" key is held down which prevents you from controlling your units at all. That might be what happened to the opponent.
Are you, or is anyone able to elaborate or help us reproduce this? It sounds similar to another known issue but we're not sure if it's the same thing. And it's hard to tell from the video.
I met this thing in sc2 like five times but never discovered the reason, only switching tabs was a cure
At first i was very skeptical of your game, but getting my hands on it i wish i supported it on kick starter.
Also this game just needs more time and optimization, my gtx 970 can barely run the game at smooth 60 1080p. if at all @@FrostGiantStudios
@@FrostGiantStudios I don't know how to reproduce it unforunately. It seems to happen randomly whenever it happens to me.
@@FrostGiantStudios To elaborate further, my game gets stuck in a state where it thinks I'm holding down the ping hotkey so any action to select or move units just pings the map instead. I can get out of it by pressing down the ping key a few times.
B.O.B. pulls might work but there's such a big snowball effect when they reach low HP and get infested by Gaunts, you don't really wanna have 10 Fiends instead of 10 SCVs after a minute of fighting :D
I like the way you explained all the new mechanics as you encountered them. Like the creep camps, not just saying what it does but also explaining damage types and good opportunities or reasons to take a camp so its easy as a new viewer to follow.
uThermal this is such a good onboarding video
Here's some easy one base cheeses so if you are new you have some kind of build to start with thats easy to execute. Oh I got supply blocked? Good thing I can quick build. Willfully encountering the issues a new player would have and solving them on screen.
The guy in the second game might actually have been telling the truth.
I was testing the game out with a friend and i ran into a bug where i literally couldnt select my units for about 45 seconds. It felt so odd at first i thought vanguard had an ability to disrupt control over units or something. (I was playing infernals and my friend was vanguard)
That said, those few units versus someone who knows how to stutter step didnt stand a chance in the first place.
you should try a BOB rush w/ overcharge. Since you can overcharge a building CC, iyou can make a CC right outside the oponents vision, overcharge, cancel, then push. I was able to stop it but only because i spotted his BOBs moving out early.
Already trying to break the game, before it even comes out? 😂
Unironically the best time to break it tbh.
@@skiks3562 True, and it help the devs with balancing and such
Man, watching you play these games is an absolute joy. You should try playing more RTS games on the channel! It would be sick if you got into Beyond All Reason, for example :)
I've played it a bit and I'll say it's my favorite RTS after sc2 for the moment :) I'll make a video on it at some point
@@uThermal Awesome! My favorite thing in the game so far is its approach to unit micro. Being able to literally draw your formations on the map is cool as hell
@@uThermal oh cool, I never have played sc2 but watch it all the time on yours and Lowko, but lately I like more watching BAR.
So I was planning to say the same as he did and to see you are gonna makes me fill with joy! I only wished that streamers would show more of panorama to see a real battle instead of birds view.
@@uThermalplease do, I'm one of the BAR devs and would love to see your experiences with it. I've often wondered what your pro micro could look like with our enhanced control system.
Reach out if you have any questions!
@@uThermal Ride the hype!!! I love the mind games u play regardless of the game. know the meta be the meta....ultimately out play everyone who knows what there doing at a high level and only get beat by others who follow your path or can play a perfect game. XD
Before: Uthermal
After: UTherium
This game looks kind of fun. Would love to see different styles of maps and more late game with tech.
its in Beta. just finished its Kickstarter so theres still some time before we see the finished product with end game stuff.
You can use overcharge ability offencively for your B.O.B pulls by starting a command center near enemy base, using the overcharge on it and then cancel the command center during the attack. though this will cost 100 lumenites for cancel, but considering it upgrades all of your bobs into a lancer equivalent for a limited time, i think its worth a try.
I've been having a lot of fun with this game. Glad to see you're enjoying it as well. Congrats on top 200!
Please do more Stormgate content. This was really fun to watch. You are already making high quality content for this game. This was legit the best Stormgate video I've ever watched.
The second guy who complained about the bug was probably Artosis...
Tbh, when I saw the trailer this game came off a lot to me like it took the parts I don't like about starcraft and warcraft and amplified them. Thus far it hasn't really done much to dispel that impression.
That Bob pull was awesome. Haven't seen that yet.
This game feels like an indie game with a dev team of two.
The first Stormgate video I have fun watching.
I have played the game, it is nice but feels like map=warcraft2; gameplay=StarCraft2, for example the vanguard. Scv = BOB, 50 minerals=50 luminade, then you build your suply depot/meetfarm wich costs 100minerals / 100 luminade!
I think people focuses too much on if it works like WC/SC/other. I dont really think its that relevant. People should be more worried if the gameplay is fun or not
My problem with the game is that i dont see the innivation compared to SC2. Its the same or even worse. The game should.be much more innovative and creative to make a difference.
What are your thoughts on this one?
There are enough new things.
I wanna see an offensive Bob overcharge push
That one base vulcan allin was awesome. I hope we see more people try that before end of beta.
I’ve been trying to bunker rush using Vanguard, would love to see you perfect it.
Not gonna lie..the pull the bois rush was so nostalgic and cool to see! :D
uThermal, have you ever played Tooth and Tail? I was thinking maybe the Vulcan was inspired by the Badger from that game, going by your description. The game is niche, though, so who knows if the devs are even aware of it. It's a pity, because it's a fantastic and unique take on the RTS genre in my opinion. I wonder if you would like it; it's definitely very different from your average RTS.
A ruff fight. With the dogs lol
i like seeing the fun/cheese strats!
i actually LOVE the fact that you can't make exos without making tech. marines as a concept are insanely overpowered- evidenced by the fact that your tier 1 unit is almost unanimously voted the best unit in the game, and the fact that you can win games with them exclusively at basically all stages of the game. that being said, pathing and terrain are way more interesting with melee units than ranged units, and i think being able to blow up tech to prevent or delay exos coming out is exciting and a good thing. imo terran units were (and kinda had to be) nerfed by the fact that marines are so strong, and it made the game a little bit linear and less interesting. marines are kinda boring and i'm glad to see the recipe changed a bit in ways that are more counterplay friendly
Yeah, that was a great choice. Marines scaled too well for such an early unit.
Love the variety
Throw some Medics with the Dogs and their ability to cast an AoE Heal spell on a dog that will last for ~10-20 seconds healing each second makes their pull-back and micro even MORE rewarding! I think the Dog upgrade for extra attack vs. Light will also be a great idea for sending a few dogs (super cheap) to clear creep camps around the map while adding pressure/macroing.
I think its time to stormgate myguy ride the hype Be the best like no one ever was. ~I have strong feelings for uThermal and his playstyle judge me if you want.
My dream comes closer each time I see my fav cheese players from wc3, grubby and fav. cheese player from sc2 play the same game. One day they will create a new type of cheese.
I wonder if you would enjoy Zero-K, it allows for some pretty crazy strategies with the unit physics and terraforming (and it's free/open source)
Beyond All Reason is good too, looks better than Z-K, same Total Annihilation roots, just not as crazy with the things you can do.
Zero-K have everything, awesome "draw on the map to make formations", incredible shared base coop fun (campaign and vs players), or huge 16x16 players games ! imagine playing a game together with 31 of your viewers :)
I've been trying one base and timing attacks and am convinced that cc first into whatever... is essentially a "one base" attack from sc2. So far, making Lancers until you get your 2nd cc and etherium running full force and then pumping out exo's with the upgrade and just going all in from 2 bases is absolutely brutal. You can stutter step micro the upgraded exo's like sc2 marines and they shred everything.
Yeah the exo's are insane with the kiting ^^
My favorite plays as far is to put sensor towers in middle or the map, behind threes.
I would love to see you play an RTS that has already been developed and patched. Please.
Furthermore, I think it'd be a good way to show a transition to good non-sc2 content.
All things aside though, I appreciate you doing these videos as well :)
Release the hounds!
So is the implication that it isn't fun without cheesing?
He explained this in the first 30 seconds of the video 😂😂😂
24:30 repair is free!
That's insane :o
@@uThermal I know they might wanna look at it, but I feel like they repair slower then in sc, so that may balance it out. Idk ,I just play games I don't make them.
Actually really enjoy this change of content!
Feel better soon and thanks for the spicy new cheese flavors!
I miss SC vids :(
Stormgate's art style is absolutely atrocious. It's going to kill this game.
Boohoo
Can you do a honest review of stormgate please
I might if I feel good enough before the beta ends :)
How long before x to gm series start :)
Hey Marc, I fully support you making less videos because you're focusing on merch and other business avenues. But getting all excited for a uThermal post that I finally get.... and it's not SC2..... sad..... I'm really wanting to see some ling / infestor / ultra......
Pull the boys! Wings of Liberty strats gonna be the stormgate meta at launch :D
that bug has happened to me several times recently, he wasnt lying
Love me some uthermal variety content!
You can't make a pizza without some CHEESE!
My worst nightmare on sc2 : marines 3/3
Stormgate first unit for vanguard marines 3/3
Oh my god 😱😭
repair is free and this particular map has 4 free mini mineral patches you can claim that randomly spawn in a few set locations. Seems you opponent in the last game farmed a few creep resources camps and also went looking for the free mini patches.
This is really a fun way to play, nice builds.
The guy was right sometimes your units cant move .. happenned to me twice
Earlier medics seem to be amazing.
i hope this game can become interesting to watch at some point
They REALLY need to change it back so that the white health bar weakens when u are off shroud! that was a GREAT limiting factor to the infenerals and really forced them to be more choosy with their engagements. Now they really can attacks and spam without much consequence.
They got an hp nerf to compensate afaik.
Uthermal: "I think I'll go some 1 base dogs today"
How original
"With some transition into hornets"
Daring today aren't we?
Game 2 was cool! Don't think top 200 is GM yet.
Why only 1.7k mmr?
Fun fact Bob's repair for Free!!! so BOB pulls are reallly good lol
Nice TIL, thx!
Hope you feel better Marc.
I'm here for the stormgate content.
I like the Stormgate content!
SUV pull is a clasaic thermal move;)
The supply icon looks like a loaf of bread
It's exactly that.
Bruh just have fun that the idea its a game now let see the greatest cheese ever play !
How did you make your creep camp icons so large relative to your minimap?
Maybe by turning the console scale down?
@@uThermal Makes sense, I guess the creep icons aren't impacted by the console scale while everything else is.
Scrolled through the comments to see how many people wrote about home remedy stuff for your cold.
None.
Here comes one:
Ginger and lemon tea. Some people also add garlic and even chili to it.
It probably won't work.
But maybe if you believe. 😂
So these units use the same voices as StarCraft 2
The hornets are Starcraft Broodwar dropships I believe
This looks interesting.
Bobombs?
That last one was nice
Ah yes, dogs into hornets. What a complete hipster strategy that noone does on ladder rn
/s
Almost made it look fun. Almost
Mining UThermium Pog
I'm really enjoying the beta
Feels like hellion banshee
i don't know why people complain that there's no innovation in Stormgate, I mean repairing dogs? what more do you want?
Ppl are stupid, just the usual.
more stormgate videos pls
i feel like you shouldnt be able to weld the dogs back together but hey, why not
Cyborg doges
1 base lancer vulcan was my build lol
Great minds think alike
I loved mass exo
So fun
Irrally hope that stormgate, not just deliver on its promises.
I hope it becomes better, more successful, most influential RTS in gaming and even more fun than SC ever was.
However, it's way off atm.
I understand its still in alpha and I'm judging what I have in front of me, not its potential.
What I'm seeing right now, such balls.
This game is awesome
I get it that community needs something "new"... but, c'mon...
Sad how this game died before it even came out
Boohoo
@@HighLanderPonyYT truly
You should name your account Ufernals
Badass boy ^^
I dont really understand that first game. You had good engages and killed so many early units. But then he still pumped out like twice as many units and won.
Yeah infernal host is very strong vs weak units. Cuz the gaunts spawn a unit when they infest and kill them. Super op
It's so ugly, unpleasant at best. Hopefully they will change the look closer to Starcraft rather than Warcraft.
Make one for AoE4!!
Jimmy!
Great, another RTS that's going to be unplayable because we have guys like Marc s h I t t I n g up the ladder.
uTherium
yes
does this guy ever pause to breathe in his videos? Skip to any moment in the 26 minute long video and at no point does he pause his endless blathering
This game looks like a very cheap SC-clone
Im sorry, this game looks terrible. Im not hating on the stormgate devs because they are balling on a budget, but this game doesn't look better than sc2, wc3 or even sc1. This is sad we have to settle for such bland assets just to have decent gameplay.
It’s free to play