I do own this watch (2002 14060M) and the more I learn about the submariner the more I appreciate the size, no date, 2 lines of text, etc. It was a gift on my 50th birthday, I have owned it for 20 years. Thanks for the video.
I've never worn the sub or any other "tool" or "tool" like watch with a suit. I have, however seen many guys do so and it's not too bad, gives one a James Bond kind of vibe. my watch of choice on those rare occasions when I wear a suit is a Patek Philippe 3923 which I will review sometime in the near future. Its a very simple, classic watch on a black alligator strap. thank you for watching :)
this was very very informative and extensive thanks a lot! Which submariner would you prefer a 5513, a 14060M or the new 114060. looking to buy my first submariner and would like some advice thanks!
+Danny Tran wow, that's a tough choice. For me I would stay away from the 5513 even though it's very nice, I'm just worried about the potential lack of parts for a vintage piece. for me it's a toss up between the 14060M and the 114060 with a slight bias towards the latter because I think the movement is slightly better. I don't care about a ceramic bezel one way or the other. thanks for watching !
I love this model, what year is it? I see that apart from a scratch on the crystal it looks mint condition. This is NOT the maxi case is it, I prefer this size to the new ones.
It is my understanding that the terminus of the coil has to be bent to a certain type of shape or curve to qualify it as a Breguet overcoil, and this is supposedly a process that requires a certain amount of expertise. in answer to your question, I have always thought that most wristwatches had flat hairsprings. the bottom line is that I believed that the overcoil was something a bit more special.
Would you recommend 14060/14060M as a first Rolex? I can’t decide... the ceramic version I do also like very much, but I like the more simple dial on the 14060.
I opted for the non date because I really didn't want the date on this particular Rolex. As far as my budget was concerned getting the one with the date wouldn't have cost too much more relative to what I was going to spend. Thanks for watching.
I have had my 41060 since 1998. It never misses a beat and is slow to the tune of 3 sec a week!. Never off my wrist, my daily wearer. Had it serviced by Rolex once in all these year's . It is my view that if your watch is running well don't take any notice of the Rolex servicing period of 3-5 years...its bollocks. Have it serviced when it goes wrong or loses too much time Rolex servicing is, at these intervals, purely a money making exercise.
1st. I like your perspective, which comes from the fantastic collection you have. 2nd, do you think a sub goes well with a suit? I know a sub is a black and white "tuxedo" of watches. I just don't prefer it with a suit. I mean you can't go wrong with it no matter what you wear, but just wondered your opinion, and what watch your prefer with a suit.
I know that the overcoil is not unique to Rolex, but it seemed to be a nice thing to have in "mass" produced watch. So is it safe to say that perhaps the shaping of that terminus is not as "difficult" as it is made out to be? I remember seeing some reference to the shaping of the overcoil in some IWC literature awhile back, and once again the implication is only a very experienced watchmaker/"hairspring specialist" could do it. I enjoyed this discussion. thanks so much for all your imput.
Such a nice piece. I bet you got a good deal on it compared to what the price is now. I got mine for around 5K a few months back. Let’s hope it will turn out to be a desired classic and that the value will continue going up. Cheers!
This watch with the date indicator is one of my favourites. Thanks for reviewing this beauty :-) Would it be possible for you to review the Rolex Yacht Master 2?
I definitely wish the 14060M had the parachrome hairspring, The ceramic bezel is nice enough, but I could do with or without it. Thanks for watching and your imput.
the difference is in the movement. 14060 = caliber 3000, whereas 14060M has caliber 3130. the differences between the former and the latter are: 1. cal 3000 has a balance cock , cal 3130 has a balance bridge 2. cal 3130 has a slightly larger balance wheel 3. cal 3000 has a flat overcoil , cal 3130 has a Breguet overcoil good question, and thanks for watching !
Great review. But I have to disagree on one point. Rolex do change for the sake of change, it's a smart move on their part....it keeps their resale high.
+MyChannelTracks The "Perpetual" is in reference to the fact that the watch is automatic and if as long as you're wearing it most of the time it will run "forever" or "Perpetually". Thanks for watching.
+MyChannelTracks I can understand your confusion. You are associating "Perpetual" with a Perpetual calender, which would be strange if there wasn't a date function on such a watch.( As with this Rolex 14060M)
+Stephen Murphy I HAD to have the permanent link removed, otherwise it would have been too loose on my slender wrist. This is definitely not the preferred or only way to center the clasp.
i'm implying that Rolex generally doesn't jump react to fades or trends overly quickly, but they do indeed change to keep pace with current watch trends as evidenced by the slightly larger than 40mm sports watches such as the deepsea and the new explorers. thanks so much for watching.
Milan pintar it doesn't matter if anyone else (besides another watch fanatic) notices it, as long as you know you got one of the great classics on your wrist :), thanks for watching!
I was thinking more in terms of a hairspring with the upward spiraling terminus (ie a Breguet "overcoil") vs one that did not have one. thanks for your imput and for watching.
I have the older sub model and find the new ceramic model disproportionate size of the lug to the bracelet? Just seems the bracelet is to narrow to the lug ! The older design is more smother and balanced! In saying that it still is a more bling masculine looking watch to the previous model
Nicely done. Another thing Rolex invented was the Oyster case w/ screw-down back. I think they were the first to do this I believe, and if not, they certainly perfected it. It is also worth mentioning that Rolex DOES come out with a totally new watch from time to time. Maybe every 20-30 years? The Sky-Dweller is a prime example, and before that, the all-new Daytona. I believe for this year, they're bringing back the no-date Sub as well. The new ones have really clunky crown guards though.
@@369168 yeah. I had no choice but to buy off a trusted Ebay dealer with box and papers. Slightly polished but great shape. But grateful I have a Submariner
Absolutely better ! in defense of the older style bracelets they are up to the task and I haven't read about any bracelet malfunctions, but...the newer bracelets are definitely more solid and something that should be on a watch that's' a couple of grand. Thanks for watching
yeah, sorry about that, first video, human error, and all that. sometimes when something is distracting, its really distracting. you ever see Austin Powers, that scene where Powers keeps looking at that mole on some villans face ?
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I do own this watch (2002 14060M) and the more I learn about the submariner the more I appreciate the size, no date, 2 lines of text, etc. It was a gift on my 50th birthday, I have owned it for 20 years. Thanks for the video.
Yes… it’s the better👍👍👍
I have own this watch for fiften years now and its never given me any problem at all, its a great watch to own.
I've never worn the sub or any other "tool" or "tool" like watch with a suit. I have, however seen many guys do so and it's not too bad, gives one a James Bond kind of vibe. my watch of choice on those rare occasions when I wear a suit is a Patek Philippe 3923 which I will review sometime in the near future. Its a very simple, classic watch on a black alligator strap. thank you for watching :)
Great review. I love mine, I’ll keep it forever. Bought mine retail, in 2006 for £2225, which was a lot of money for me, now Rolex prices are insane!
not only are prices getting high there's no inventory at any AD, and if you go grey market you have to pay way above msrp
Unfortunately I don't have a YM 2 , thanks for watching glad you enjoyed the review
this was very very informative and extensive thanks a lot! Which submariner would you prefer a 5513, a 14060M or the new 114060. looking to buy my first submariner and would like some advice thanks!
+Danny Tran wow, that's a tough choice. For me I would stay away from the 5513 even though it's very nice, I'm just worried about the potential lack of parts for a vintage piece. for me it's a toss up between the 14060M and the 114060 with a slight bias towards the latter because I think the movement is slightly better. I don't care about a ceramic bezel one way or the other. thanks for watching !
NO BULLS**T WRISTWATCH REVIEWS ok great thanks so much for advice keep up the great work!
I love this model, what year is it? I see that apart from a scratch on the crystal it looks mint condition. This is NOT the maxi case is it, I prefer this size to the new ones.
I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing this out. Accuracy in this videos is very important to me. Thanks for tuning in
im glad you enjoyed it. hope you found it helpful. thanks for watching.
Great review NBSWWR! This is my all time favorite Submariner model; the beauty is in the simplicity!
couldn't have said it better myself. less very often is more. thanks for watching
Thank you; I'm looking forward to watching more of your reviews!
no worries, glad your question was answered, thanks for tuning in :)
love how clean the dial looks. i have the chronometer version, but definitely prefer this one :)
It is my understanding that the terminus of the coil has to be bent to a certain type of shape or curve to qualify it as a Breguet overcoil, and this is supposedly a process that requires a certain amount of expertise. in answer to your question, I have always thought that most wristwatches had flat hairsprings. the bottom line is that I believed that the overcoil was something a bit more special.
Another nice vid. I thought only the center row of links were hollow and that all of the end links running the length of the bracelet were solid.
Would you recommend 14060/14060M as a first Rolex?
I can’t decide... the ceramic version I do also like very much, but I like the more simple dial on the 14060.
both versions are pretty nice, but the numerals on the ceramic sometimes look cartoonishly big to me.
I opted for the non date because I really didn't want the date on this particular Rolex. As far as my budget was concerned getting the one with the date wouldn't have cost too much more relative to what I was going to spend. Thanks for watching.
On my model I think all the links are hollow. on some of the newer versions the endlinks are solid. (I think) thanks for watching
that's some lint on the crystal. I gotta be more careful about cleaning up this watches if I'm going to use such close ups. thanks for watching
I have had my 41060 since 1998. It never misses a beat and is slow to the tune of 3 sec a week!. Never off my wrist, my daily wearer. Had it serviced by Rolex once in all these year's . It is my view that if your watch is running well don't take any notice of the Rolex servicing period of 3-5 years...its bollocks. Have it serviced when it goes wrong or loses too much time Rolex servicing is, at these intervals, purely a money making exercise.
I completely agree. thanks for watching :)
1st. I like your perspective, which comes from the fantastic collection you have. 2nd, do you think a sub goes well with a suit? I know a sub is a black and white "tuxedo" of watches. I just don't prefer it with a suit. I mean you can't go wrong with it no matter what you wear, but just wondered your opinion, and what watch your prefer with a suit.
you're welcome. the design is indeed a classic. thanks for watching :)
I know that the overcoil is not unique to Rolex, but it seemed to be a nice thing to have in "mass" produced watch. So is it safe to say that perhaps the shaping of that terminus is not as "difficult" as it is made out to be? I remember seeing some reference to the shaping of the overcoil in some IWC literature awhile back, and once again the implication is only a very experienced watchmaker/"hairspring specialist" could do it. I enjoyed this discussion. thanks so much for all your imput.
great video so clear , what camera do you use ? thx
Love it, bought my 2nd one last week.
Great review, beautiful watch! I learned something with the 3 dots on the crown!
Such a nice piece. I bet you got a good deal on it compared to what the price is now. I got mine for around 5K a few months back. Let’s hope it will turn out to be a desired classic and that the value will continue going up. Cheers!
And, what do you know, it did !!!
thanks for viewing. it's one of my favorite watches :)
This watch with the date indicator is one of my favourites. Thanks for reviewing this beauty :-)
Would it be possible for you to review the Rolex Yacht Master 2?
I definitely wish the 14060M had the parachrome hairspring, The ceramic bezel is nice enough, but I could do with or without it. Thanks for watching and your imput.
i think the chronometer version will ultimately be more collectible. so hang on to it :) thanks for watching
although i never tried it on a leather strap, the watch was briefly on a maratac 2 ring zulu. thanks for the suggestion.
I have the same one. Mine is a 2005 D serial and I love it!
Glad yo hear it :) thanks for watching
At the 3 o'clock position...is that a scratch or a dust under the crystal?
I think most Rolex owners have had good experiences with their watches. thanks for watching
Great review! An iconic watch and my favorite model.
Robin Love it certainly is THE iconic dive watch, glad you enjoyed the review. thanks for tuning in :)
NO BULLS**T WRISTWATCH REVIEWS Thanks to you and congratulations for the channel :-)
Robin Love you're welcome :)
Are Rolex still producing these watches or have they been discontinued?
Nicely done review
what is the M ref no . is it any different than any other refferences. thanks
the difference is in the movement. 14060 = caliber 3000, whereas 14060M has caliber 3130. the differences between the former and the latter are:
1. cal 3000 has a balance cock , cal 3130 has a balance bridge
2. cal 3130 has a slightly larger balance wheel
3. cal 3000 has a flat overcoil , cal 3130 has a Breguet overcoil
good question, and thanks for watching !
M for modified, as they modified the movement.
Great review. But I have to disagree on one point. Rolex do change for the sake of change, it's a smart move on their part....it keeps their resale high.
"stamped" is probably inaccurate, but I wanted to point out that the links were hollow and in spite of this the bracelet is sturdy and comfortable.
Correct me if Im wrong, but what is perpetual on watch with no date?
+MyChannelTracks The "Perpetual" is in reference to the fact that the watch is automatic and if as long as you're wearing it most of the time it will run "forever" or "Perpetually". Thanks for watching.
+NO BULLS**T WRISTWATCH REVIEWS Thanks for reply. Its a little bit confusing with perpetual date.
+MyChannelTracks I can understand your confusion. You are associating "Perpetual" with a Perpetual calender, which would be strange if there wasn't a date function on such a watch.( As with this Rolex 14060M)
Looks like a permanent link is removed at 6 o clock, is that the only way to center the clasp?
+Stephen Murphy I HAD to have the permanent link removed, otherwise it would have been too loose on my slender wrist. This is definitely not the preferred or only way to center the clasp.
Makes sense, those older bracelets had fewer removable links
i'm implying that Rolex generally doesn't jump react to fades or trends overly quickly, but they do indeed change to keep pace with current watch trends as evidenced by the slightly larger than 40mm sports watches such as the deepsea and the new explorers.
thanks so much for watching.
Most comfortable bracelet ever ! Even if it feels cheap
it is indeed a comfortable bracelet. thanks for watching
Now, watching this guys videos... _very_ strong Mr.Mackey : "M'kay?" - vibes .
I couldn't see the text on the inside of the bezel?
+sdm107 the older ones don't have the text only the newer ones. thanks for watching
Lets get the terms right first: There is no such thing as a Submariner Non Date. Its simply the Submariner. The other is the Submariner Date. Savvy?!
I wear mine all the time.. noone notices it at all but I feel great having this classic
Milan pintar it doesn't matter if anyone else (besides another watch fanatic) notices it, as long as you know you got one of the great classics on your wrist :), thanks for watching!
What about Rolexes magic 904L stainless steel? About $40 per lb.
its definitely alot more expensive than 316L
I was thinking more in terms of a hairspring with the upward spiraling terminus (ie a Breguet "overcoil") vs one that did not have one. thanks for your imput and for watching.
I have the older sub model and find the new ceramic model disproportionate size of the lug to the bracelet? Just seems the bracelet is to narrow to the lug ! The older design is more smother and balanced! In saying that it still is a more bling masculine looking watch to the previous model
I 100% agree about the thick lugs/narrow bracelet on the new models.
(maybe I'm thinking of the SEL models)
What a nice review! I am trying to find one right now =)
thanks ! good luck with your search :)
thanks !..hope you are able to find one real soon !
I should of waited until the end. That answered my question.
Where do you buy this Rolex?
Leanardo Jewelers
Very knowledgeable review, thanks!
Thanks, I try my best.
is there a scratch or hair on the glass ?
it's a hair/lint
Enjoyed this review...watch is an icon..
I think this is going to be my next purchase. Thanks for posting the video.
tDS
+TheDutchSandwich my pleasure. thanks for watching :)
Nicely done. Another thing Rolex invented was the Oyster case w/ screw-down back. I think they were the first to do this I believe, and if not, they certainly perfected it. It is also worth mentioning that Rolex DOES come out with a totally new watch from time to time. Maybe every 20-30 years? The Sky-Dweller is a prime example, and before that, the all-new Daytona. I believe for this year, they're bringing back the no-date Sub as well. The new ones have really clunky crown guards though.
Jeremy D 90% sure borrowed the screw down crown design idea from another brand or watchmaker, seen the info in an old watchmskers repair book.
thanks again for watching :)
The ceramic one has a bigger dial better lume etc
Good review
thank you for watching :)
2024 P39 for the win.
yes, all true, but still prefer a lower tech bezel to a ceramic one. thanks again for chiming in.
@369168 Try it on a waterproof leather strap.
Date or No Date. They both have their purposes and are both classic Rolex
Absolutely. I'm very thankful that i was able to get one. Try getting a new sub now, good luck with that. Nobody has any inventory in stock
@@369168 yeah. I had no choice but to buy off a trusted Ebay dealer with box and papers. Slightly polished but great shape. But grateful I have a Submariner
that's awesome, congratulations ! :)
Love the sub
thanks for watching. it really is the archetype of modern diving watches.
The new bracelets are definitely built better.
Absolutely better ! in defense of the older style bracelets they are up to the task and I haven't read about any bracelet malfunctions, but...the newer bracelets are definitely more solid and something that should be on a watch that's' a couple of grand. Thanks for watching
Also, check my watch reviews, if you want. For the moment, they're on digital Casios, but I'll start mixing in mechanicals here soon.
My aluminium bezel rusted from wearing in pool.
interesting, maybe from the chlorine ? its always recommended to rinse the watch after coming out of the ocean or even a pool.
dude a 10 minute review and you couldn't pop the crown and show some functions?
Your absolutely right. It was my first video and an oversight on my part. My apologies
Nice
thanks!
Thanks man. I think so too :)
This is not the M reference. Ffs.
there are most certainly non COSC certified Ms, if that's what you're having an issue with
I have the newest one, 114060
fastcougar3200 is that the one with the ceramic bezel?
NO BULLS**T WRISTWATCH REVIEWS Yes
the ceramic one is better
I can't watch anymore. That piece of lint is driving me mad.
yeah, sorry about that, first video, human error, and all that. sometimes when something is distracting, its really distracting. you ever see Austin Powers, that scene where Powers keeps looking at that mole on some villans face ?
You have E.T. fingers.
LOL
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I'm afraid that's a fake...the fonts in the name are incorrect as is the finish on the bezel...
Nope. It's real
Rubbish strap on that watch