Wife's Infidelity Leads to Three Suspects in Her Murder | Stephanie Roller Bruner Case Analysis
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Kind of reminds me of the time my friend caught gonorrhea, and when he told the two girls he was seeing at the time, they both apologized.
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...I get it but I don't...?
2 weeks on and I'm still laughing way more than I should be still at this banger 😅
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Financial stress often precipitates terrible outcomes ... divorce is a very volatile time, and extreme caution always a good idea, even if there is NO HISTORY of violence, or threats of violence.
The thing about an "emotional affair" is that it can go carnal pretty fast. When those things are combined, both people are essentially lost at sea. I wish I didn't know this.
Yup...They seem harmless, at the beginning. Like close friends. Until it's not like close friends.
@@chris55529 I think these emotional affairs are more damaging, too, cuz they usually don't go anywhere long term or at all. One of the people involved usually cares more, and gets hurt. I can see why this might happen in prison frequently.
I think, they did more than kiss.
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I agree! Your formula works so well by giving you a handle to grab the story with.
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I listened to you twelve hours ago.
Right before going to bed.
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I feel for the children living in that environment. I hope they are with loving caregivers and get all the therapy they need to grow into mentally healthy adults.
So many immature people get married, to bad getting a marriage license doesn’t include some sort of standards. Maybe a certain amount of couples therapy sessions where topics like finances, raising children, goals, how to communicate, expectations can be gone over.
I used to call this behavior at work ‘mental copulation’. It is indeed powerful 🤢 Especially to watch day in day out with coworkers…..🤢😂
Sounds like all you do is sit around and watch your coworkers. Do you even have a job?
@@edwardwright2989 If she didn't, why would you accuse her of having coworkers? Which is it? Calm the F down.
The guy "Simp" in the cube next to me has been fooling around with another coworker & last week I heard him yelling at her for going on a 2 week Caribbean vacation with her husband & kids. He is T'eed off that she is spending so much time with her husband.
Lots of people have a “work” husband or wife lol
If someone believes there is such a thing as an "emotional affair", then where do they draw the line?
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Ironically, his former attorney would have had to honor the attorney client privilege, but by calling into question his attorney's competency after the trial, he opened the door for the attorney to publicly defend himself from potential sanctions. This included explaining why he had a limited strategy to work with...his client confessed that he did it.
He did the right thing.
I had NO idea that was a thing. Dale really shot himself in the foot there.
yep. don't give your attorney damning info, then try to get him disbarred.
The attorney client privilege is null if he or she threatened to kill themselfs or kill others it's the attorneys responsibility to do something.
@@matthewneufer1758 But that isn't what happened. He confided to his attorney who was defending. That is protected. What sunk his ship is he created a situation where his own attorney had to defend himself from allegations the client put forth that could have cost the attorney his license. Under those circumstances, the attorney was free disclose why he chose the limited strategy that he did to defend his client. His client was guilty.
Thanks Dr. Grande for the excellent "speculation". Please cover Jimmy Hoffa?
There seems to be many cases of this type. Some more or less normal guy is being cheated on, verbally berated, emotionally abused, or maybe physically pushed around a little. Outwardly he doesn’t appear dangerous. In fact he might seem to be a weakling or a push over. His wife or someone else close to him, usually a woman, develops contempt for him. This causes her to lose situational awareness. He is getting closer to losing it, and she is causally doing things (sending e-mail to her lover right in front of him) that are risking disaster. He snaps and reacts violently. But it’s not some TV version of performance violence, it is extreme animalistic unhinged violence. It’s like nothing that the victim has ever seen and nothing that the perpetrator thought possible. This takes both the victim and the perpetrator by surprise, often with deadly results. People need to understand this sequence of events in order to avoid it. If your wife is cheating on you or slapping you around, go to a lawyer and plan a divorce. If you are tired of your jerk husband, go to a lawyer and plan a divorce. Dont play with fire by ratcheting the tension to higher and higher levels until someone gets hurt or killed.
You’re rationalizing and empathizing mmm why???
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why not?
Hi Dr. Grande. She should've left & divorced him. Having a safety plan would've saved her life. No one should be abused whether it's physically, mentally, spiritually, financially, etc. May she RIP. Hopefully he rots in hell @ well @ prison. What makes people believe their own lies? Peace & fascinating times hopefully await you & your family. Love, Janine Smiley😏🙂😉😀😇🆒️💯❕❗
Generally there is some negativity that precedes divorce. A divorce is pretty disruptive, so it's usually the result of the parties gradual realization that they have absolutely no hope of happiness if they stay together. Arguments with varying degrees of heat are common, but where is your evidence she pushed him around? Any normal person wouldn't be brazenly communicating with a lover. People have some privacy settings on their devices. Usually the marital breakdown is mutual. Neither party is happy with the other, and neither is a saint; both have disappointed the other, and been disappointed in turn. But most people navigate this without resorting to homicide.
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In Cold Blood…an excellent book.❤️🇨🇦
So weird that a very young Robert Blake starred as one of the murderers in the movie In Cold Blood and then went on to be a prosecuted for murder.
Dr. Grande, thank you for another interesting commentary. I would really like to hear your take on Tim Scroggin of Texas. It is one of the more bizarre crime stories I have ever read about.
Me too and I agree!
I have to call bull@$t on this emotional affair. That was to save his own skin with the wife. I hope she danced off into the sunset with another partner.
Do you mean you theorize that it never happened or it was more than an emotional affair?
More than an emotional affair, is what im assuming, because that’s what I thought too.
Nobody rode off into any sunsets tho!
“Emotional affair” lol. Hilarious
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"In Cold Blood" by Truman Capote! The first true crime novel I read. Still #1 on my "list"! I'll never forget the impact it had on my life. I lost my naiveté and innocence in reading the book, but it undoubtedly saved my life more than once during extended cross country trips as a very young woman. I basically trusted few people, and my instincts were always correct, as far as discerning a person's character and avoiding those with red flags waving behind their peace signs. They were legion then. Doesn't appear things have improved since way-back. Another reason I love you Sir. You offer a lot of practical, common sense, and nonjudgmental guidance. You make me Think and I can't be the only one. P.S. The movie was good also. Eagerly awaiting your take on this infamous quadruple murder. Thank you. XxxOoo
Marriage is completely off the table for me. If you can afford to move to Silverthorne, you’ve got a lot to risk.
I lived in Colorado back when this happened. Several of her friends wrote very eloquent tributes to her which were posted online. Her children are the ones who I most empathize with. Very sad.
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This one hits close to home... I live in a mountain resort town not far away, and didn't just go to college with the victim and the defense attorney, they were both part of my circle of friends, although they never met (she graduated while he was still in the Navy). I think the legal conundrum this case presents, is more interesting than the case itself -- appealing based on lack of effective representation, gets rid of attorney-client privilege.
So 12 years later, the attorney gets to explain himself -- that's when the confession came out, not when it was made, the video gets that detail wrong -- but he'd already been ostracized by his friends for even defending this guy, just so much worse now that he didn't fire his client. Attorneys never ask clients if they're guilty.
If someone is guilty of the crime they're on trial for, the last person they should confess to is their attorney. It changes the nature of the defense, and they can't really use "ineffective counsel" as an appeal without the confession becoming public knowledge. What happened in this case is vanishingly rare.
Dr. Grande, I enjoy your analysis. I can’t imagine how crazy busy you are in these days. God Bless you.
I always wonder why these people don't divorce if they meet their so called soul mates. Ron was not her soul mate, by the way. And neither was her husband. And if a woman is truly faced with someone who states that he will kill her if she leaves, then leave immediately and try to leave that person behind totally. This whole situation could be have been avoided. Not blaming the victim, but she got involved with unstable men.
There is no shit such as “soul mates”
Women, and men. Marry for all kinds of reasons. Often nothing to do with love or anything like it.
They have a need and they see a way to fill it. But everybody's an actor to some degree and they put up a good front.
For a while. Many put a good face on it in public about their "never ending fairy tale love affair".
It often isnt that way on the home front.
Dr Grande, could you talk about the Robert Durst case?
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“I am a witness” x infinity.
“To what?”
“To behavior” x 1.
I like this vid. Good insight and great analysis... The difference was in the Emotions.
I absolutely despise ex partners being brought in to testify because their testimony means nothing. A lot of ex partners would jump at the opportunity to stick the knife in whatever the truth is.
Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.
I don't buy the "emotional affair" thing. People bang in affairs.
Very lucky day when Dr.Grande posts 2 videos in less than 24 hours
Dr Grande, could you anaylse the stats on incidents that occur in the month of November.
Dr. Grande: Have you posted a video on the increase of mass shootings in the U.S.? 2023 has been horrible. Any thoughts as to what is going on? And why now? Thanks.
Thank you for your dedication & hard work!!
Soulmate.
Synonyms: tooth fairy, Easter bunny, chupacabra, etc..
Like the early upload. I remember this case but always great the way you lay things out. Thanks Dr G😊💙🤍
I don’t believe the “emotional” part of the affair to the exclusion of the sexual part of it, it sounds like a bs she told her husband
What does an emotional affair look like? To me, in such circumstances, the person the most enthused with the relationship is for all intent and purpose merely in it for the sympathetic ear, a shoulder to cry, and the empathy she received. I'm sure that was what Stephanie was in this relationship mostly for although she may have wanted it to advance beyond that at some later date. But in all honesty, it's been my experience from engaging in such idiotic behavior that most of the mostly middle-aged women I encountered in that long distant time did it for a more vigorous sexual relationship and usually with a younger guy and not some fantastical romance inspired by some incipient tale in a novel. The married women who had affairs with me during my single years, and on occasion caused me to be subjected to death threats, mostly wanted to believe they were still capable of being women who were desirable in a more visceral way. In reality, I suppose most humans have this in common but only those unable to completely suppress it and make themselves comport to polite society are given the wherewithal to seek relief in infidelity. And since I'm an old man now I take comfort in the fact it was not a time so filled with homicidal wrath. though I am rather certain the crime rate was higher during my late teens or early twenties or at least criminals were far more cunning, but don't remember so much carnage as we see today. It was during a time when a man would be more of a threat for physical violence rather than homicide which seems to become the preferred option of our current enraged and maddeningly pathological culture. The worse I suffered was a gun being waved in my face whereas today a young man with such a reckless approach to life and feminine companionship. At age 37 I wearied of such dangerous liaisons once I started getting stalked. I married the divorced woman I was dating at the time and our next anniversary will be our 37th together. No doubt I wanted to kill her in all that time but never over infidelity. Her husband was stupid for not taking the deal because even a blind person could see that he did it.
You seem very full of yourself despite the fact you write like 7th-grade kid.
She probably wanted to kill you too.
It snowed the other day, here in NJ. Yes, I looked for my laptop & phone, then ran off into the blizzard with a light jacket. 🙄
Women don't usually run outside psst 10 pm.
Dale didn't report her.missing, because he knew where she was.
I was buying furniture and missed this until now
Always interesting
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Why would anyone in their right mind opt for a jury trial? Juries, especially in the US, almost always convict.
What exactly is an "emotional affair?" It sounds to me like their problems started once their finances went bad.
I'm not sure why Dr Grande would consider Ron and Cynthia as suspects. What motive did they have?
I wonder why I was drawn to this one.
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Stephanie didn’t use good judgment even having the emotional affair (if that’s even true that’s all that was going on). It’s not a stretch that she used poor judgement with romantic e mails when dale could find her
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I have no pity for cheaters.
IMO I think Cynthia needs to be looked at more . There is a motive for jealousy rage type of an attack
Dale should have taken the plea deal. Oh well
The fact that AH didn't know who Raven Symone was is what I took away from this. I wonder if AH had to ask someone for help or if she just bothered the cops, telling them it was an emergency. Help! I'm locked out of my Tesla because I'm an airhead!
So. Are you moving the walls, plants, tables or the desk? Or all of the above? Why...? Is it a joke, an effort to keep us interested or are you "and I am not diagnosing but only speculating what may be happening in this case" a frustrated interior decorator. No pun intended.
An interesting case
What Stephanie went through that night was horrific. It was torture. People who are divorcing should never been under the same roof.
Been married 3 times and soon after the 10 year mark each wife cheated & left me for another man. Initially I angered when learning of their betrayal but I could never cause them harm. I simply left them and wished them the best with their new lover, and stopped by every Friday to pickup the kid(s) for the weekend.
All this is why I ride bicycles a lot, and motorcycles, and take trips to where ever.
Not everybody needs to be married despite what we are conditioned to believe from birth.
Some get married 6 times and are always looking for the next one. Gee, wonder why it never works out?
Must be the other person.
Hi Dr. Grande,
Could you please analyze Akku Yadav.
How abt the case from ISU of the boy who died from drowning/freezing to death from Libertyville? Matthew Listman. . . Plz?
Can you do a very in depth video about avoidant personality disorder, please? Thank you!
There was an episode about it on TV. Her husband is the main suspect and he's a convict. I think he's guilty.
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Without understanding the circumstances of his confession (Is it known that he actually made the confession, or was it something his lawyer said? What was the basis for his complaint about the lawyer?) I don't feel that Dale can be considered guilty beyond any reasonable doubt even now. The discrepancy related to Stephanie's decision to write a love letter in close proximity to her husband and Dale's odd claim that Stephanie took her laptop on a late night walk may cancel each other out; i.e., she took the laptop outside so she could write the letter away from Dale. In any case I agree that the jury's decision wasn't justified at the time.
The jury would have heard to evidence of The alleged violent behavior of Dale from at least three other witnesses. Plus the strangulation marks. Then the strange behavior of the alleged killer, soon after the wife disappeared.
Surprising that evidence of the three children was not anywhere. Or other families and friends.
His lawyer apparently made his confession public. This is definitely a violation of legal ethics. It raises questions about the competence of his defense. For example, a lawyer who is willing to tell people about a client’s confession can be suspected of not providing a zealous defense. Defense attorneys are required to put forth the best defense that they can, even if they are convinced that their client is guilty. This comes down to the fundamental legal premise that it is better to let a guilty man go free than to convict an innocent man. I am not a lawyer, but I have great respect for defense attorneys. Prosecutors have (should have) the luxury of being convinced that the accused is guilty. Defense attorneys have the burden of knowing that they are usually defending guilty people. Not because they want guilty people to get away with it, but because they want a just outcome for the innocent. There is a price for that. In addition, if you are a law abiding person you should not fault defense attorneys for doing their best. After all if you ever find yourself in front of a jury, you will be wrongly accused.
Stephanie unfortunately got karma
She didn't care.
Great, now we know we can't Even trust our fucking lawyer.
What is an emotional affair😂?? Is IT Just an affair?
Imho Dale looks guilty as sin
What's up everybody
Haven’t watched the whole story yet and don’t know “who did what to whom” but those two photos between 1:36 and 1:42 sure do look like screen grabs from filmed police interrogation videos . . . 😅!
Dr. Grande, don’t short shrift yourself, read the whole actual book of IN COLD BLOOD! It’s fantastic! 📖
Violent people are always violent. A leopard does not change it's spots. They might hide their violence for a while but they can't hide it long term. Violence, err, finds a way.
How come I never see you smile Dr. Grande. I suspect you are an AI
Emotional Affair Partner
We used to go to Silverthorne, Colorado when we went on ski trips for youth group. We would go to the Nike Outlet store the most there.
In Cold Blood is an excellent book! Just yesterday I watched a Biographics video on Harper Lee (A+ video!), and he was in it (he was a close friend and a childhood next-door-neighbor to her).
Dale sounds like an excellent suspect, he had stronger motivation to committ murder because he was married to her and he was the only one out of the other three that was going to be left with no one.
It's ridiculous that a couple, who likely took marriage vows but she was having an emotional affair, has to do things like get the police involved for things like a restraining order only to have it lifted and get back together.
I think Dale is guilty. He caught her writing the Email it was a wrap.
IMO they convicted the right person. Most of the time it's always people close to the victim or the last person to see them alive as the culprit, on this case it's both. I find it ridiculous that she went out for a walk with her laptop but did not wear enough clothing to protect her from the cold-that alone is suspicious and also how he waited for 10 hours before reporting her missing. That's enough time to clean the crime scene and dispose of the laptop which could have been the murder weapon or there were incriminating evidence there that will directly point to him as the murderer.
Based on the info in this video, Stephanie was suffering greatly and trapped with a violent and uncaring man. She was attempting to escape the pain. Dr. Grande, even in the title, it seems you "blame the victim."
Can we christen your recent linguistic creativity as “Grande Poetics”?
hypOthermia.. tsk tsk, doctor. 😛
see fellas, once the money dries up women are gone.
Well you know why most people want government jobs don't you? It's not as if government jobs attract entrepreneurial, highly productive people. That's not to say the jobs are not attractive to these types of people, but there's definitely an attraction for government by people who can't otherwise obtain an equal paying job out in the market. It's one of the biggest reasons public school teachers and admin fight against school choice too ironically. In most systems the student is their pay check and of they can't compete they must downsize. Yet millions are leaving the public school system every year. Pretty bad when you cant compete against 'free' schooling. We all know it's really not free. But that's besides my point. She struggled because of her skillset and work ethics all in all likelihood.
Dale complained Stephanie didn’t keep house well enough? Were his hands broken? Did he not get the memo that men too can do housework? That always irks me and is an aside, but due to his history of violence with the previous GF, and the confession, I think the jury got it right (even though they didn’t hear it).
I do not like scary stories of homicide but when it comes to anyone I love and loves me I love it 🥰 for any interference of affairs . So, I am better off single than a couple I do not want to be incriminated or the risk of violence someone attempting to destroy A NEW couple
.. Can their be a strength in being a couple? Yes only on the same page in every sense .
.. Again it has to be a mutual consent and no forced and no manipulating (by stalking/spying) a romantic relationship becomes unblessed, unless it is a good spy from God then it needs evidence the stalker or spy is from God in the Bible Record . For most men that is impossible as it is not associated to the Holy Spirit -ONLY- GIVEN FREELY BY JESUS YOU CAN NOT ACHIEVE IT
Stephanie's chances of successfully getting away safe is to leave not stay in the home. Bad idea to remain.
Whatever was she thinking. To do what she did while there with her ex was callous; rubbing the salt in the wound.
She could have moved away. Also, communicate with her ex through a lawyer. File for a TRO and arm herself. Prepare that something can and may go wrong. Nothing is guaranteed.
It is sad that it ended this way for both of them. One needed to let go and move on. That's what love does.
Better to have loved and lost than not to have loved at all. Time heals.
Lol we aren't 3 years old no more
....sometimes, we can all fall for the love that should have never been.. just sayin😊
2/23/23 Imo, not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt! Do they have the right person? Did Dale really do it? Stephanie,rip🌹
Not very well organised video
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Hi Dr Grande. Could you look at the case of Allison Baden Clay? Her husband is in jail for the murder, but the court case and jury decision has never sat right with me, because the prosecution evidence was flimsy at best, and I don’t think their case met the beyond reasonable doubt criteria. I don’t care less about him, but I do care about the law being properly applied. The husband is an absolute douche bag, but I don’t think that’s an actual crime. ❤️ from 🇦🇺🦘🐨
The ol' "we had an arguement and she/he went for a walk/drive (despite the fact that it's the middle of the night or bad weather)" excuse
And took a laptop because thats what i grab when walking
Good afternoon, Dr. Grande!
Aren't you the busy little beaver! Two videos and a short for today!
A combination of four causes of death?
Dale had a propensity for violence and now that he was about to lose his wife, he finally had a real reason, in his mind, to get violent.
But it's clear that her didn't premeditate it.
So she died.
Too bad that Dale didn’t call for help after he struck her. He would have been in a lot less trouble. Then he didn’t take the deal for 24 years and blabbed to his lawyer. He was dangerous and incredibly stupid. Thanks again for your analysis. I usually catch your videos too late to comment and I love to participate 😎
Stephanie was just in an emotional relationship not physical with the other guy.... complete BS
@@ianarmstrong9594 Having been in a situation similar to this I can tell you that what people confess to doing and what they actually did are two different things. I think when a person is guilty of something like cheating, whether it be physical or not and are found out they tend to try and diminish their acts so their partner won't be "too mad". And even if it were just an emotional affair (I hate the word affair btw, makes it seem less than what it is) I've seen it where a person will do whatever it takes to try and at least talk to the other person again to try to figure out why or convince that person to be with them. As far as how a person reacts to finding out their partner is/has cheated all I can say is it's easy to think what you'd do in a situation like that but you can never be too certain of yourself when all of it hits you at once. For a guy, fear is a spark in a room full of explosives. It ignites your rage and even though you truly love the person, in that moment your anger is in total control. It seems to be much worse if it's a complete surprise vs a gradual suspicion and then finding out what you suspected. Even then things are 50/50 at best on how you'll react. We humans forget that the only thing keeping us from what we truly are is society. It would only take a reasonable natural disaster to see what humans are capable of.
@@tonymerrell lots of common sense in your comment but that said lots and lots of people cheat and get caught and their partners don’t strangle, beat them with a rock and leave them to die of hypothermia. It takes a special kind of monster to do that, different than surviving an apocalypse. Interesting guy, confess to his attorney and still roll the dice with a trial, he got what he deserved….
It is interesting that Dr. Grande characterized it as an emotional affair. I certainly wouldn’t take anyone’s word that nothing happened. However, perhaps police combed through their exchanges and they detailed the extent of their relationship.
If they hit you SPLIT. ALWAYS SPLIT. NO HITTING.
Hey Dr. Grande! Watching the Murdaugh trial, but stopping to watch your always great content now!
I've been watching it, too. I just wish he would give some yes/no answers, instead of explaining every single answer. I think he did it.
An “emotional affair” seems a bit of an exaggeration for what happened between Stephanie Bruner and the physical therapist.
People often minimize their behavior when they have an affair and also often trickle information. First it’s just emotional, then they just kissed, then they just…….
@@kpas22105 I agree people tend to minimize bad behavior, but anything before sex isn’t an affair was my point.
It's been a long time since I caught a Dr G video this early. Happy days.