Beyond the obvious intimidation here, that the meeting was held without her parents’ knowledge, consent, and presence are grounds enough for punishment.
All the board members need sued. NEVER should any minor be questioned with out parent consent or being present!! They did this on purpose! Remove all of them!!!
The question "you don't believe children should be spending their time in class" was snarky and purposely meant to intimidate....who is she trying to kid?
They should resign, parents weren't aware, one child against many holding positions of authority, absolute intimidation, they most definitely infringed on the first amendment,
“You’ve not articulated what you believe your first amendment rights to be…” WTF??? Here’s a lesson for you Melissa Silverthorn; She can say and do whatever she wants within the bounds of the law. She DOES NOT have to articulate them to you first.
Because administrators would tell them how unethical, immoral, and out of line they were. A student can't articulate those thoughts as well, so they target the students.
She doesn't have to articulate what she thinks her first Ammendment rights to be. She only needs to be able to have them and to speak out when ever she feels, it doesn't need justifying to a board member for her to hold her right.
Under the Tinker USSC decision (1968) - The court found that the First Amendment applied to public schools, and school officials could not censor student speech unless it disrupted the educational process (unfortunately, the two school board members are morons)...aka you cannot FIX stupid
You are absolutely correct. I recently saw a news clip in which a Republican Congressman said the United States must, for all practical purposes, competely tear down the education system - it's infested with destructive Marxism.
These kids will grow up to be these snobby, bad dressing, pass the buck, no listening bullies If they don't wake up now. These kids are taxpayers. Their parents work hard, pay taxes. As a family unit, this makes them taxpayers.
To any student who may get put in a similar situation... 1. Record it with at least audio recording. 2. Answer every question with a question. 3. After the person intimidating, i mean questioning you has spoken, before you answer you should take a breath analyze what they have said then firm a question to answer it with. Examples: Teacher: you haven't identified what you think your first amendment rights are? Student: doesn't the first amendment gaurantee what those rights are? Teacher: what do you think your first amendment rights are? Student: have you got a copy of the bill of rights? if so i assume you know how to read. Teacher: we don't think a protest will be safe. Student: what kind of violence are you planning on performing on the students of the school? Teacher: why are you opposed to equity/crt/equality? Student: why are you racist? EVERYTHING they say should be not be answered but questioned. It doesn't matter what it is. Question it. Make NO statements. Only ask questions. A learning environment means students get to ask questions. Questions are a way to put people in a tough spot because if they are violating tge law or ethics, or policy they are going to be VERY careful of what they say and are going to be VERY uncomfortable giving answers.
It wasn't bullying so much as common tactics in sales where you want a specific outcome. (Not to hold a protest) Regardless there are a several problems the school board should have been well aware of. - discussing (and being wrong about) the first amendment - using scare tactics (cop getting hit by a car, challenging multiple locations, reprocusions, etc.)- no parent notification I could go on but there is obviously a problem here with the way this was conducted and handled.
Homeschooling is looking like a great answer to this problem. The district gets paid by the number of students in their schools. Protest by taking their income away; our children. It’s a win win my friends. Transparency is what our tax paying $$$$$ should provide
Didn't articulate her first amendment rights? What the hell does that mean?! You board members just don't want to hear them. School board should be abolished and run by
I sense a massive school board turn over happening in the next year. Lets do it to our election offices as well. The more important issues are our elections.
Of course they will ignore their own improprieties. Most Karen and ken clubs (aka school boards) do. In the recording played I didn’t hear the president articulate a valid reason not to protest. Believing the student should not be doing it wasn’t a reason, just her own weak opinion. And let’s face it, not notifying the parents and having a two on one meeting with a minor was meant to intimidate. I’ve never heard of any board members calling students in for a private meeting for anything. That’s what you have teachers,principals, and superintendents for. This board has definitely overstepped.
Right why get a third party to investigate when the school board can investigate themselves. Is there a conflict of interest? absolutely, but you're 3 minutes are up, so sit down
@@Ih8liarsandusers These people _do_ work for us. Well, did. Not any more, as they all got thrown out, thank God. Still your statement's arrogance is only surpassed by it's wrongness, which is a close second to its ignorance.
They should fired. Screw the board Who the f---. Do they think they are if they did that too my son. It would be lights out for them period.... Point blank we need new employees. Our other ones are missing.....
The school boards are just as horrible about looking into any allegations against them: We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong, just like police departments, court prosecutors, judges. Our system is very broken when it comes to our basic Civil Rights. Our forefathers saw this illusion of law coming 😢😢
I love how people are commenting like this happened any time recently. It was almost 6 years ago. I'm sure the student has grown up and moved on. I was bullied by my teachers, and students as well. You just have to move on. Not an easy thing to do or say. But you just have to.
Unfortunately weather this did or did not happen recently is not the issue, the fact of the Matter is no one has the legal authority to question a minor without the expressed permission and consent of the parents, and obviously because these kinds of issues were not addressed as they should have been as it happened , and it was sweeped aside as unimportant, by those in charge , is the big reason why education as a whole is denigrated and poorly presented especially to the youngest of children.
Me either….. I was searching the comments thinking everyone is crazy, they were having an open discussion with the student to get more information on why she wanted to protest, where is the bullying?!? I don’t get it….. non news
I didn't heat anything close to bullying. It's called being nervous while talking to someone in authority. I would have been uncomfortable talking to a school board president when I was in high school too. Doesn't mean she was bullied. It happens to everyone. Out society is insane.
+Stlbr727 listen to the unedited audio, throughout the meeting they frequently discredit this student's right to express, organize, and speak freely, and blatantly ignore her talking points in favor of the exact things she identifies as ineffective. If the school board felt there was no serious concern that could be raised with how they handle their teacher evaluations, they wouldn't be so inclined to try to de-escalate this student, but instead would have simply taken punitive action. This is intimidation, poorly disguised as concern.
I agree with the school board on this one to a certain degree. They should have been admonished for the meeting and apologized to the student. I don't believe what they did deserve that they resign. The girl looks like a snotty-nosed bully herself, and believe I remember the type when I was in school. The scale of what these admins did does not rise to level of having to replace all of them because one entitled kid gets her panties all bunched up. It would have been different if they actually stopped a protest. This is how ANTIFA members are formed. She has got to learn she cannot have her way all the time. Respect is earned.
Beyond the obvious intimidation here, that the meeting was held without her parents’ knowledge, consent, and presence are grounds enough for punishment.
EXACTLY!!!!
Every single adult in that audio recording should be facing criminal charges
Sounds like the parents of that girl need to have a meeting with the school board members in a parking lot with brass knucks.
Hey bro call me if your serious 1760 401 4603 yes your right butt not thinking big enough tho.plz call
Ouch! That would hurt.
Sometimes that’s the only method to communicate with stupid
Wow! I'm sure that would FIX All the Problems lol Smdh
All the board members need sued. NEVER should any minor be questioned with out parent consent or being present!! They did this on purpose!
Remove all of them!!!
Absolutely, they all need to go!
The question "you don't believe children should be spending their time in class" was snarky and purposely meant to intimidate....who is she trying to kid?
They did bully her 😔 and tried to intimidate her!
Then lied about what or how they questioned her.
Stop using that word. They didn't "bully" her. They tried to coerce her without her partners present. They violated her Constitutional rights.
They should resign, parents weren't aware, one child against many holding positions of authority, absolute intimidation, they most definitely infringed on the first amendment,
“You’ve not articulated what you believe your first amendment rights to be…” WTF??? Here’s a lesson for you Melissa Silverthorn; She can say and do whatever she wants within the bounds of the law. She DOES NOT have to articulate them to you first.
FACTS!!!!
Why is the board discussing things with the student and not an administrator?
Cause admin wont listen either
Because administrators would tell them how unethical, immoral, and out of line they were. A student can't articulate those thoughts as well, so they target the students.
School board members if you're reading this: we are sick of your shit. This is the only warning we'll issue.
She doesn't have to articulate what she thinks her first Ammendment rights to be. She only needs to be able to have them and to speak out when ever she feels, it doesn't need justifying to a board member for her to hold her right.
Under the Tinker USSC decision (1968) - The court found that the First Amendment applied to public schools, and school officials could not censor student speech unless it disrupted the educational process (unfortunately, the two school board members are morons)...aka you cannot FIX stupid
Boy, oh boy. This sounds like my school in the fifties! Of course, we weren't trying to protest, but so many of the teachers were bullies.
From UK : I'm sorry to say America you're broken and, no , time does not heal , you must address what's causing these fractures .
You are absolutely correct. I recently saw a news clip in which a Republican Congressman said the United States must, for all practical purposes, competely tear down the education system - it's infested with destructive Marxism.
These kids will grow up to be these snobby, bad dressing, pass the buck, no listening bullies If they don't wake up now. These kids are taxpayers. Their parents work hard, pay taxes. As a family unit, this makes them taxpayers.
Don’t stop exposing their dirty little secrets. Let’s teach transparency
They knew that a ‘single’ student addressing a ‘board’ was extremely intimidating!
To any student who may get put in a similar situation...
1. Record it with at least audio recording.
2. Answer every question with a question.
3. After the person intimidating, i mean questioning you has spoken, before you answer you should take a breath analyze what they have said then firm a question to answer it with.
Examples:
Teacher: you haven't identified what you think your first amendment rights are?
Student: doesn't the first amendment gaurantee what those rights are?
Teacher: what do you think your first amendment rights are?
Student: have you got a copy of the bill of rights? if so i assume you know how to read.
Teacher: we don't think a protest will be safe.
Student: what kind of violence are you planning on performing on the students of the school?
Teacher: why are you opposed to equity/crt/equality?
Student: why are you racist?
EVERYTHING they say should be not be answered but questioned. It doesn't matter what it is. Question it. Make NO statements. Only ask questions.
A learning environment means students get to ask questions. Questions are a way to put people in a tough spot because if they are violating tge law or ethics, or policy they are going to be VERY careful of what they say and are going to be VERY uncomfortable giving answers.
I’m living for your comment!!!!!!!!! I said Li-Ving!!!!👍🏽
BOOM!
They were so fucking rude and disrespectful
Their condescending tone made me sick
It was definitely aggressive
It wasn't bullying so much as common tactics in sales where you want a specific outcome. (Not to hold a protest)
Regardless there are a several problems the school board should have been well aware of.
- discussing (and being wrong about) the first amendment - using scare tactics (cop getting hit by a car, challenging multiple locations, reprocusions, etc.)- no parent notification
I could go on but there is obviously a problem here with the way this was conducted and handled.
They were school board members. It was bullying, It was thuggery.
They must resign! Our school system nowadays is trash!
They did eventually get voted out. By a _very_ wide margin,
Homeschooling is looking like a great answer to this problem. The district gets paid by the number of students in their schools. Protest by taking their income away; our children. It’s a win win my friends. Transparency is what our tax paying $$$$$ should provide
Didn't articulate her first amendment rights? What the hell does that mean?! You board members just don't want to hear them. School board should be abolished and run by
I sense a massive school board turn over happening in the next year. Lets do it to our election offices as well. The more important issues are our elections.
Of course they will ignore their own improprieties. Most Karen and ken clubs (aka school boards) do. In the recording played I didn’t hear the president articulate a valid reason not to protest. Believing the student should not be doing it wasn’t a reason, just her own weak opinion. And let’s face it, not notifying the parents and having a two on one meeting with a minor was meant to intimidate. I’ve never heard of any board members calling students in for a private meeting for anything. That’s what you have teachers,principals, and superintendents for. This board has definitely overstepped.
These freaking schools are ridiculous. These school board members need to go.
bullies
You leaders need to step down or face lawsuits. You did violate her first amendment rights.
Right why get a third party to investigate when the school board can investigate themselves. Is there a conflict of interest? absolutely, but you're 3 minutes are up, so sit down
followup to this please
Do it yourself lazy@$$.....these people don't work for you. Take 5 seconds of your time and use a Google search engine
@@Ih8liarsandusers Don't be a shit head
@@Ih8liarsandusers I mean its kind of their job to report on these things and make follow ups plus that comment was from 2yrs ago lmao
@@Ih8liarsandusers These people _do_ work for us. Well, did. Not any more, as they all got thrown out, thank God. Still your statement's arrogance is only surpassed by it's wrongness, which is a close second to its ignorance.
Lmao what the heck
She and other children are the ones Dr. Martin Luther King jr., Dreamed of. Y’all are in trouble now.
Get rid of these unionized clowns
The school board is not unionized, They're Kock brother funded, anti-union drones.
They should fired. Screw the board
Who the f---. Do they think they are if they did that too my son. It would be lights out for them period....
Point blank we need new employees. Our other ones are missing.....
Sadly corrupt people don't resign.
Open and honest in private?
The school boards are just as horrible about looking into any allegations against them: We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong, just like police departments, court prosecutors, judges. Our system is very broken when it comes to our basic Civil Rights. Our forefathers saw this illusion of law coming 😢😢
I love how people are commenting like this happened any time recently. It was almost 6 years ago. I'm sure the student has grown up and moved on. I was bullied by my teachers, and students as well. You just have to move on. Not an easy thing to do or say. But you just have to.
Really sad and pathetic these school board members behave in these manners with this student. Her parents should sue these school board members.
Unfortunately weather this did or did not happen recently is not the issue, the fact of the Matter is no one has the legal authority to question a minor without the expressed permission and consent of the parents, and obviously because these kinds of issues were not addressed as they should have been as it happened , and it was sweeped aside as unimportant, by those in charge , is the big reason why education as a whole is denigrated and poorly presented especially to the youngest of children.
Oh is that lady serious 😡😡 they intimidated her and did NOT contact her parents to be there so she had support 🤬🤬
You all need to be fired
Seriously? Lmfao 😆😆😆😆 I don't see anything wrong with what the teacher spoke to her about
Me either….. I was searching the comments thinking everyone is crazy, they were having an open discussion with the student to get more information on why she wanted to protest, where is the bullying?!? I don’t get it….. non news
No context.
Brave young woman!
Schools keep ignoring the public
Wow very disgusting to see that conduct from Sarah silverthorn
Hope they were voted out
She couldn’t even speak at the podium
School Board has there Hands tied and God Forbid if one of the Little Angels get there little Feelings Hurt, Poor Little Butthurt Princess!!
Because The Beauty of The White Aryan Woman Must Never Perish From the earth.
I can tell you one thing she’s really beautiful 🤩
.... abolished and run by theun by the parents.
Little people who want lots of power. Get rod of them they are only interested in their own little power bubble.👑👑👑
I didn't heat anything close to bullying. It's called being nervous while talking to someone in authority. I would have been uncomfortable talking to a school board president when I was in high school too. Doesn't mean she was bullied. It happens to everyone. Out society is insane.
+Stlbr727 listen to the unedited audio, throughout the meeting they frequently discredit this student's right to express, organize, and speak freely, and blatantly ignore her talking points in favor of the exact things she identifies as ineffective.
If the school board felt there was no serious concern that could be raised with how they handle their teacher evaluations, they wouldn't be so inclined to try to de-escalate this student, but instead would have simply taken punitive action. This is intimidation, poorly disguised as concern.
If she felt uncomfortable that’s bullying. Perception is the thing. The two “adults” ‘effed up.
Why not address the protest then.No they singled her out for organizing it. Bully's!
@@weltonvillegal6258 your definition of bullying is mindless. Please reread your post and THINK this time..
Is being fat and ugly school board prerequisite?
Poor student. She had to answer questions. Wow.
By people that control whether or not she graduated and where intimidating her behind closed doors. Have your boss do the same bud.
I agree with the school board on this one to a certain degree. They should have been admonished for the meeting and apologized to the student. I don't believe what they did deserve that they resign. The girl looks like a snotty-nosed bully herself, and believe I remember the type when I was in school. The scale of what these admins did does not rise to level of having to replace all of them because one entitled kid gets her panties all bunched up. It would have been different if they actually stopped a protest.
This is how ANTIFA members are formed. She has got to learn she cannot have her way all the time. Respect is earned.