Evil is not the word to describe this piece of crap. Did he really think he would get away with this murder. Why should we waste money taking care of him when it could be used for education, housing, etc.
The complete lack of emotion and the sense of arrogance and entitlement of this individual is very disturbing. He scares me. He should have the same treatment he gave his parents. This is horrific.
Incredible rebuttal. Pointing out the fact that his mother paid for everything that he used in their murders was highly effective. He is a total monster!
I just got done watching a documentary about this from dreading (true crime YT channel) and I left a comment saying that exact same thing. That he used his parents money to buy all of those “supplies” he had, pictured in the video from inside the home. Absolutely sickening.. gut wrenching.. he is a monster.
Their own client is working against them. He changed from the insanity plea, which was his only hope, and wants the death penalty against their advice. So f'--- it. Not worth it. I've seen defense attorneys say "The defense rests, Your Honor," without doing another thing.
I kinda feel bad for them. You can just imagine what they were thinking upon getting the case like, “what am I supposed to say to advocate for you...?“ Attorneys have an ethical responsibility to advocate for their client, but sometimes I wonder if secretly, inside, theyre ever like, “he totally did this & is a Dangerous person.”
Just pure evil. He has NO soul. So glad this is one that will never hurt another innocent human being. One down many more to go. He will NEVER survive prison. Prayers for this beautiful couples family and friends. May God grant them strength to overcome this evil with love. Grant them peace and comfort.
That rebuttal closing was amazing!! She absolutely nailed it!! What a sad sad horrible case this is. After 20 years of watching trials this is by far the most evil I've ever seen. God bless that poor family.
@@jsterling6805 Yes I agree the Jodi Arias case was horrific as well. The Rosenbaum trail was another sad case. I mean they are all really sad aren't they. Poor families. This Guy trial is definitely on a whole another level that is so disturbing though.
I've been watching trials for a long time, too. I thought her opening statement was one of the best I've ever seen. I'm going to watch it again now that I've watched the whole trial. From her open: (referencing the totes in which the victims were found): "...a diabolical stew of human remains." My goodness, that sounds like something you'd hear in a movie. She's got a way with words.
How anyone could do this to another human is crazy, but to do it to your own parents who are still financially supporting you when you are 30 is just insane! The only time I saw him break his smirk was when his ‘roommate’ testified. The only person he had any emotion about.
I couldn’t see it there, I went back and looked, I think he just has a weird face with his ocd eyes, he did smirk when the prosecution opened and she said he made a “diabolical stew”
Let this be a warning to all those parents who enable their teenage/adult children to be useless and dependant on them.. Stand on your own two feet 🦶🏽 🦶🏽
A message to single mothers who think they don't need a man? Those people? Because if you ACTUALLY listened throughout the entire trial they state that the father was at ends with his dependency and HIS MOTHER was the one who continued to coddle him. This idiot was lazy and had FAR TOO MUCH time on his hands - which was the proponent for his murdering scheme. Idle hands...
I sort of feel Bad for the defence lawyer. Like.... it’s so beyond obvious his client is sick evil and twisted and committed the crimes but he still had to defend him. You can tell his closing argument is not heartfelt. But he still has to go through with the motion. It’s uncomfortable watching his closing cause it’s so contrived and unconvincing. Can’t blame him though. I guess throw stuff out there and see what sticks.
yeah hats off to his defense lawyer bc me personally i would quit and let him deal w it on his own. trying to find some kind of defense is impossible in this case so the fact that he tried shows that he’s just trying to do his job
Nothing worse then murder from parents to children or child to parent. Imagine this couple pregnant for 9 months probably over the top excited to spend the rest of their life’s with their new baby and little did they know he’d be the demise of them.
@@sandyandersonadkins.9145 Um...you don't carry a demon through gestation, they're molded and shaped in their impressionable years. They're created through influence, not born that way.
@@sandyandersonadkins.9145 On the criteria of knowledge alone, in contrast to your lack of knowledge, yes. I never asked whether you cared or didn't, I simply enlightened you in how adults become what they are by way of influence/s throughout their impressionable years.
I get the feeling he didn’t have a happy childhood Something happened brain damage his eyes look like someone who has overactive thyroid bulging eyes seem Yes evil
More than likely, not to break the belief, he is extremely tired. Probably hasn't slept very much at all since the trial started, has been sitting through extremely long processes while awaiting his inevitable doom, and these closing statements are extremely long-winded and likely something he has heard dozens, if not hundreds of times, on top of literally experiencing it; he's tired, widening his eyes to remain awake, classic sign of boredom and fatigue.
I wish this guy just plead guilty the defense literally said nothing there was no defense he just wasn’t ready to go to big house and wanted to relive his crimes disgusting!
The power point presentation of the evidence was so well orchestrated with it's time lines, cctv footage, receipts, bank withdrawals, photographs with strips of the hand written notes from the notebook above. Wow that took a lot of man hours and work. Truly amazing👏
It's sad an unfortunately that quite a number of able bodies adults are refusing to take responsibility for their own lives and would rather lean heavily on their aged parents with the intent to rob them of their hard working life savings; and in this case to even kill. Parents you need to be very discerning as it may save you from a similar fate!
No matter if parents indulge and spoil their children?? It is NOT their fault when a child does this type of thing. I wonder if you are a parent? My best friend of 33 years was the best mom you could ever dream of. Yes - she DID let them "eat dessert before dinner" etc. EVERYTHING pointed to these kids being amazing, and I mean everything. Circumstances happened that her husband of 25 years (seemed to be a normal loving person) up and left and tried to take the kids that were 12 and 17. He was willing to give them anything they wanted They turned on her so fast it was breathtaking. All for money and things and priviledge. and I do not think for two seconds it was because she "let them eat dessert before dinner" They saw opportunity to get whatever they could and whatever they wanted from their dad. I do NOT think that how they were raised would turn them so evil.
Cannot begin to understand what was going 0n in his mind like bro those were your parents!how could u!why would you!sick f !prayers to all those affected by this!
8:48 "Little did Lisa Guy know.." - and he freaking SMIRKS during those words.. i have no words. He needs to get the same treatment he put his parents through.
Something tells me the guy friend knows a lot more, he just saved him and didn’t say a word. They loved together and were involved more then we know. We should watch him, closely. He didn’t like being questioned whatsoever
She is clearly disturbed by this guy. And did an amazing job. He seems bothered by her delivery and I’m glad someone made him squirm even for a few minutes
Fantastic closing by the prosecutor, clear and concise. No need to hear the defenses run around, I’ll spend those 30 minutes doing something else. Good job boys
I didn’t follow the case closely but I have the overwhelming feeling that he literally just didn’t want to or know how to support himself and be an adult. And because he’s a psychopath, he thought he’d just murder his parents in such a gruesome way and obvious that he was bound to face life in prison. He never needs to think about getting a job or a place to live again; everything is organized and provided. Scumbag.
Outgoing, friendly, happy....because he thought he was going to get $500,000 Oh, he didn't wait for Christmas to kill them...why wait? He wasn't going to commit murder? He brought the kill kit with him TO THANKSGIVING DINNER. I know the guy has to try but COME ON!
This man must be entirely insane to do this to his parents-- particularly decapitating and simmering his MOTHER"S HEAD. Absolutely disgusting. It's one thing to want your parents' money, but it's quite another to go to this perverse extreme.
Did anyone else notice that he started to smirk or smile when they were talking about the part where his mom left Walmart didn’t have a care in the world but little did she know that she was walking into a trap to be killed I swear To God he smiled a little
I think he had a real bad relationship with his parents, especially his mom. And it didn’t happen overnight, he planned out thus gruesome day. He is devil possessed.
Andrea P There was another part in one of the other videos can’t remember which one where the medical examiner said to the DA oh I’m sorry to “cut you off” and he started to smile then too! He almost snickered or laughed! Then there was a part I think it was in closing statements were the DA said something about he put their body parts in those tubs making some crazy stew, I can’t remember the exact words but he took a pen and wrote it down and smiled and looked like he was gonna laugh!! He’s so creepy
Andrew Orahoske Lisa was his biological mother. Joel Sr. had 3 daughters from a previous marriage, and the girls lived primarily with their mom and spent summers with Joel Sr, Lisa and Joel Jr.
His attorney was trying to fight a losing case. Ridiculous defense closing statements but he was trying. I can’t imagine being in the defense attorney’s position.
By the end of the prosecutor's arguments he does seem visibly shaken (even though he barley shows emotion). I think it was potato salad comment that got him.
omg i just noticed the back of Mrs Guys pants have no stab marks remember they said he stabbed her multiple times in the buttocks but when you look at the back of the pants they are only cut. so after he took off her clothes he was stabbing her even after she was dead
Joel Guy Jr's punishment is having to listen to his attorney defending him. I'm surprised given his behavior in court with inappropriate smiling and laughing, he didn't burst out laughing at this guy's RIDICULOUS defense!!
@@RBLong0928 Well he has some kind of facial movements which could be interpreted as smirking. I definitely saw him never laugh during proceeds but believe he smirked a couple times but did his best to supress it. The reasons being comical situations in the court room, like when some in the audience smiled too. When the prosecution asked the doc "can you hear me" he sort of smirked imo.
Barbie it was a previous trial segment...there were a few times during horrifying testimony he was talking with his attorney literally laughing and smiling.
I know a person who is an adult who grew up to hate a parent because the parent coddled them so badly as a child that they had difficult time standing on their own two feet, failure to launch, afraid of the world, and to this day has no respect for that parent as an adult even though as a child they liked being coddled. Joel Jrs parents coddled him and he grew to hate them. He didn’t love them and had no problems killing them. He blamed them for his inabilities to get along independent of them. Then when they cut him off, the hate he always felt took action. Just my opinion.
Is it just me, or was there a slight smile on Joel Guy Jr’s face when the prosecutor showed his mother exiting Walmart and says “little did Lisa Guy know the terror that awaited her.” I’ve never seen a monster in a horror movie that’s as scary as this creature. It’s incredible how things like Joel manage to get through life undetected.
I kinda feel bad for the defense lawyers, they literally have nothing to work with to defend this monster.. they must be public defenders to go in knowing they won’t win the case.
I'm assuming in this case the lawyer probably wasn't getting much work and thought taking this case knowing that monster was guilty and definitely loosing the trial , lawyer looses a trial still gets paid and possibly a few job's inn the hope's of some free publicity 🤷♀️ only logical sense I can make of the lawyer defending such vile sad case
Great prosecuting closing and excellent rebuttal. This guy is a spoiled entitled brat with no conscience . Even during this trial he is trying to get the insurance pay off.There is no emotion from him during all this. He looks like he is watching a movie.
The defense attorney was grasping at straws. But we already knew that he had no defense back on day 1 when his two minute opening statement consisted of thanking the jury members for their service and advising them to listen for reasonable doubt in the State's evidence.
I wouldn't want to be on the defense team. I'm surprised he didn't just say, look...he did it, no doubt. .then plead for less prison time. But, to attack the prosecution's case is just ineffective and may have an adverse result that will cause jurors to detest the defense for thinking they can't reason thru the obvious evidence. I'm not sure why he thought the bodies would degrade so much they wouldn't be able to determine cause of death or why he didn"t follow thru with his plan of disposing evidence. Did he get tired from all the physical and emotional exertion it took to do what he had done? Why did he go ahead and use the money to pay his bills knowing full well this was traceable and would end with his arrest. He knew he eventually would be caught..just left too much evidence. ..so why go on with the charade. He obviously was not happy after and knew the life he earlier envisioned was never to come to fruition. I hope we will learn more regarding his train of thought before, during and after this horrific event.
He was outgoing and happy with his sister Michelle because he was looking forward to the money "he thought" he was going to obtain. He didn't want to be a suspect. How do you pretend not to be a suspect? You just heard it from his attorney!!
During the end of closing arguments, notice how he's not suppressing a smile anymore, the prosecutors words wiped the smirk right off rat boys face. He knows he's going to prison for the rest of his life.
i dont think his eyes could have gotten any wider jesus he just looks like a nutball....he has literally no emotions seeing the photos and videos and no emotions to the families speaking bout the loss. he just sat there totally emotionless (other than maybe a smirk or two)
I am applauding the state's closing argument. What a wonderful job by both prosecutors. It almost brought me to tears listening to the recount of these heinous despicable murders of joel jrs loving parents. This is the only time I haven't felt sick to my stomach looking at joel jrs face during the trial, when he had to sit there and listen to the state's wonderful presentation of what he did and what a horrible person he is. What a great job the state did throughtout. And the judge is such a sweetheart. I am so very glad justice was served for this couple. May joel jr spend the rest of his life thinking about what he did to the very people that gave him life.
Phenomenal closing arguments by both prosecutors. First a straightforward presentation of the facts; then in rebuttal a heart-wrenching summation: She paid for the chemicals used to disintegrate their bodies; she paid for the potato salad that he bought after he killed them because he was hungry. Wow.
How on earth was this attorney supposed to put on a defense? He didn't cross examine anyone. What could he even say in closing against ALL of that forensic and other evidence?
Really? The defense seems to be hoping that “outgoing, friendly and happy” will be their equivalent to: “if it doesn’t fit, you must acquit.” We all realize you don’t have much to work with but seriously?? Good luck with that.
When the male attorney says "Little did she know.....the terror that awaited her" watch this piece of garbage hold back a smile!! I can't believe this is a human, walking amongst us...and to think there may be more terrifies me.
These poor people gave him their whole life. And then he took their lives when they were ready to relax .. May god bless them and welcome them in Heaven. He has no tears to regret what he did.
The dufus figured out how to be taken care of for life. Now we all get to pay for him for the rest of his life. And I think he gets to attend courses from jail too. Ugh.
Right?? Not to mention, it is Well-known that a chunk of people get seemingly calmer & happier right before committing an act of violence, if for the excitement for the violence itself or the potential rewards.
Thing is though, especially as an appointed attorney, they have to give the best defense possible...as not to taint the trial and give ANY reason for an appeal of the conviction to be granted.
Evil jerk to rob his parents of a wonderful life they worked so hard for!!! Sickening!!
Evil is not the word to describe this piece of crap. Did he really think he would get away with this murder.
Why should we waste money taking care of him when it could be used for education, housing, etc.
@@LivingJust4Me Why are you asking rhetorical questions? That's the real question.
The complete lack of emotion and the sense of arrogance and entitlement of this individual is very disturbing. He scares me. He should have the same treatment he gave his parents. This is horrific.
yes tha parents sure created a monster
He seems so disconnected to reality this entire trial. He looks like he's watching a documentary about someone else.
Yes, and notice how his eyes occasionally seem to pop out of their sockets? Weirdo!
Yes I was just going to say how his eyes widen, so strange!
I think he’s actually fascinated and surprised by how much the police and experts were able to reconstruct. Weirdo, indeed.
He seems to enjoy the attention like a egotistical person would. Didn't the mom and dad or family see his strangeness long before it came to this.
Incredible rebuttal. Pointing out the fact that his mother paid for everything that he used in their murders was highly effective. He is a total monster!
I just got done watching a documentary about this from dreading (true crime YT channel) and I left a comment saying that exact same thing. That he used his parents money to buy all of those “supplies” he had, pictured in the video from inside the home. Absolutely sickening.. gut wrenching.. he is a monster.
It's like as he is watching everything back, he is proud and reliving every moment. Not a moment of remorse or tear is those big creepy eyes of his!
@@NondescriptMammal yeah something really off and creepy about his appearance and those eyes! 👁👁
I pray that this monster is never allowed to set foot out of prison alive.
Every serial killer that has ever walked this planet couldn't hold a candle to the creepiness of this guy
@Sickofit November probably a mixture of all three but most definitely something demonic has to be behind those eyes! 👹
Pop eyed Satan.
Holy crap what a weak defense. But to his attorneys credit, they didn’t have much to work with.
I think the defense is weak on purpose. They know. They obviously were not trying too hard.
He probably took this loser just for the money.
@@blyxx7450 usual story for defence
Their own client is working against them. He changed from the insanity plea, which was his only hope, and wants the death penalty against their advice. So f'--- it.
Not worth it. I've seen defense attorneys say "The defense rests, Your Honor," without doing another thing.
I kinda feel bad for them. You can just imagine what they were thinking upon getting the case like, “what am I supposed to say to advocate for you...?“
Attorneys have an ethical responsibility to advocate for their client, but sometimes I wonder if secretly, inside, theyre ever like, “he totally did this & is a Dangerous person.”
Wow, that prosecution rebuttal. That was truly excellent, she nailed it.
Totally nailed it!
Sure did!
She's absolutely BRILLIANT
Absolutely! She brought up a few points that I hadn’t considered!
Yes, the way she timestamps Lisa's last day among other attributes of her closing thats exceptional
This is a fabulous judge assertive and confident.Respectful even to the killer the judge deserves respect and he is very professional.
Agreed. Great judge.
Just pure evil. He has NO soul. So glad this is one that will never hurt another innocent human being. One down many more to go. He will NEVER survive prison. Prayers for this beautiful couples family and friends. May God grant them strength to overcome this evil with love. Grant them peace and comfort.
That rebuttal closing was amazing!! She absolutely nailed it!!
What a sad sad horrible case this is. After 20 years of watching trials this is by far the most evil I've ever seen.
God bless that poor family.
Jodie arias case was one of the worst prior to this.
@@jsterling6805 Yes I agree the Jodi Arias case was horrific as well. The Rosenbaum trail was another sad case. I mean they are all really sad aren't they. Poor families.
This Guy trial is definitely on a whole another level that is so disturbing though.
I've been watching trials for a long time, too. I thought her opening statement was one of the best I've ever seen. I'm going to watch it again now that I've watched the whole trial.
From her open: (referencing the totes in which the victims were found): "...a diabolical stew of human remains." My goodness, that sounds like something you'd hear in a movie. She's got a way with words.
How long did it take the jury to find him guilty?
@@niania7022 two hours. And I'm guessing that was for the other charges and degrees.
Seeing this and thinking about how much I love my parents and feeling this sense of rage.
How anyone could do this to another human is crazy, but to do it to your own parents who are still financially supporting you when you are 30 is just insane! The only time I saw him break his smirk was when his ‘roommate’ testified. The only person he had any emotion about.
“Roommate”
Lover
Jobbie jabbers
They suck each other’s peters
Sad cause his roomate didn't want him in that way. Such a waste of a human being.
He had a slight smile when the prosecutor said "she had no idea of the terror that awaited her". My God, how twisted he is....
I noticed that too...sickening
I couldn’t see it there, I went back and looked, I think he just has a weird face with his ocd eyes, he did smirk when the prosecution opened and she said he made a “diabolical stew”
Let this be a warning to all those parents who enable their teenage/adult children to be useless and dependant on them.. Stand on your own two feet 🦶🏽 🦶🏽
Still, nothing justifies killing.
Because if you don't, your son or daughter will cut off your feet and put em in a pot.
A message to single mothers who think they don't need a man? Those people? Because if you ACTUALLY listened throughout the entire trial they state that the father was at ends with his dependency and HIS MOTHER was the one who continued to coddle him.
This idiot was lazy and had FAR TOO MUCH time on his hands - which was the proponent for his murdering scheme. Idle hands...
No child asked to be born, though. While we're all at it, why don't we just stop breeding?
@@phoenixdavida8987 It's too bad your mother didn't support that sentiment.
I sort of feel Bad for the defence lawyer. Like.... it’s so beyond obvious his client is sick evil and twisted and committed the crimes but he still had to defend him. You can tell his closing argument is not heartfelt. But he still has to go through with the motion. It’s uncomfortable watching his closing cause it’s so contrived and unconvincing. Can’t blame him though. I guess throw stuff out there and see what sticks.
yeah hats off to his defense lawyer bc me personally i would quit and let him deal w it on his own. trying to find some kind of defense is impossible in this case so the fact that he tried shows that he’s just trying to do his job
Nothing worse then murder from parents to children or child to parent. Imagine this couple pregnant for 9 months probably over the top excited to spend the rest of their life’s with their new baby and little did they know he’d be the demise of them.
It makes a female want to have her uterus removed, I'd hate carrying a demon like that F .
@@sandyandersonadkins.9145 Um...you don't carry a demon through gestation, they're molded and shaped in their impressionable years. They're created through influence, not born that way.
@@judahsoremy9857 I don't care how that maggot was molded. He had loving, caring parents.... Now what? Are you a child expert?
@@sandyandersonadkins.9145 On the criteria of knowledge alone, in contrast to your lack of knowledge, yes.
I never asked whether you cared or didn't, I simply enlightened you in how adults become what they are by way of influence/s throughout their impressionable years.
I get the feeling he didn’t have a happy childhood Something happened brain damage his eyes look like someone who has overactive thyroid bulging eyes seem Yes evil
Weakest defense I've ever heard. But then again, there wasn't much to work with.
It was intentional, come on.
@@kadzo6614 I am pretty sure Matt was being sarcastic.
Gotta give him credit for just standing up lookin a foo defending this guy, I mean they didn't have a defense.
He is so disgusting. The way his eyes dart around makes me think he's replaying the events.
Yeah, that's what I thought too. It's like he's having flashbacks. Especially when his eyes get big.
More than likely, not to break the belief, he is extremely tired. Probably hasn't slept very much at all since the trial started, has been sitting through extremely long processes while awaiting his inevitable doom, and these closing statements are extremely long-winded and likely something he has heard dozens, if not hundreds of times, on top of literally experiencing it; he's tired, widening his eyes to remain awake, classic sign of boredom and fatigue.
I wish this guy just plead guilty the defense literally said nothing there was no defense he just wasn’t ready to go to big house and wanted to relive his crimes disgusting!
I agree 100%
Agreed
The DA is really good here. Really captivating closing argument.
The power point presentation of the evidence was so well orchestrated with it's time lines, cctv footage, receipts, bank withdrawals, photographs with strips of the hand written notes from the notebook above. Wow that took a lot of man hours and work. Truly amazing👏
It's sad an unfortunately that quite a number of able bodies adults are refusing to take responsibility for their own lives and would rather lean heavily on their aged parents with the intent to rob them of their hard working life savings; and in this case to even kill. Parents you need to be very discerning as it may save you from a similar fate!
Yea I agree I moved out in my early twenties this guy a narcissist look at his facial expressions 🤪
No matter if parents indulge and spoil their children?? It is NOT their fault when a child does this type of thing. I wonder if you are a parent? My best friend of 33 years was the best mom you could ever dream of. Yes - she DID let them "eat dessert before dinner" etc. EVERYTHING pointed to these kids being amazing, and I mean everything. Circumstances happened that her husband of 25 years (seemed to be a normal loving person) up and left and tried to take the kids that were 12 and 17. He was willing to give them anything they wanted They turned on her so fast it was breathtaking. All for money and things and priviledge. and I do not think for two seconds it was because she "let them eat dessert before dinner" They saw opportunity to get whatever they could and whatever they wanted from their dad. I do NOT think that how they were raised would turn them so evil.
Cannot begin to understand what was going 0n in his mind like bro those were your parents!how could u!why would you!sick f !prayers to all those affected by this!
He loved money and himself above else.
1 TIMOTHY 6:10
“Outgoing, friendly and happy” yes I imagine he was. He thought he was getting away with half a million dollar bills.
Safe💯
That’s not even what his sister said lol
The prosecution did a great rebuttal!
Mel Mack I agree!!! Really pointing things out!
Mel Mack it was perfectly written with just enough emotion!
Mel Mack Amazing rebuttal. You can tell this prosecutor is really passionately affected by this case.
“Outgoing, friendly and happy” 🙄
Like Chucky
That they were going to die
@Nelson Robert Willis well how di you defend the indefensible
What a tough job.. being a Defense Attorney!!
I know we need them, but still.... tough!
Probably all the oxycodone he stole from his parents!
8:48 "Little did Lisa Guy know.." - and he freaking SMIRKS during those words.. i have no words. He needs to get the same treatment he put his parents through.
I don't see a smirk. In fact..
..I am amazed how his expression stay the same.
@@RBLong0928 it's actually at 5:44 and he does smirk right when the prosecutor says "little did Lisa Guy know, of the terror that awaited her"
Yes! I noticed the same thing!
Oh, sorry, i messed up the time. My bad 🤦🏼♀️
YES! I noticed the same thing!
Look what this monster did to them, his own parents!!!! This is so horrific!!!
He has no soul heartless monster
This is the first time I see some pictures presented in the courtroom on YT. Thank you for showing this case as is! 🎉
Something tells me the guy friend knows a lot more, he just saved him and didn’t say a word. They loved together and were involved more then we know. We should watch him, closely. He didn’t like being questioned whatsoever
Yeah he was outgoing friendly and happy cause all he was thinking was 🤑 $500,000.00
The Defence has a big fat nothing!
It was intentional.
Yes, they know that !😬
Mrs Prosecutor is absolutely BRILLIANT AND SO ARTICULATE🙌 awesome job representing that family's need for closure and justice served!!
The defense's closing argument was terrible. I'm just saying.
I would do the same to make sure he's guilty for sure 🤣
Pitiful
There didn’t seem to be anything to defend!
Gail Katzovitz Linsk correct, and the defense was court appointed. No private defense would have touched this case
Totally agree, grasping at invisible straws
Why is the defense even bothering to speak? His poor attorney is on deaths door 🚪
The prosecutor 's clsing argument was magnificent! I think it almost brought him to tears. Those poor people! May they rest in paradise 🙏
She is clearly disturbed by this guy. And did an amazing job. He seems bothered by her delivery and I’m glad someone made him squirm even for a few minutes
This prosecutor is excellent obviously very experienced and good at her job
Fantastic closing by the prosecutor, clear and concise. No need to hear the defenses run around, I’ll spend those 30 minutes doing something else. Good job boys
The judge just hoped they all had a good lunch..How do you have a good lunch after this grusome trial?
exactly what i was thinking
U weren’t there. Trials are long. Long days. Relax
You become disconnected after long trials like this.
He had no other choices y'all, that poor man lmaoo.
The Killers eyes are crazy.
There has to be more to this story then just greed and laziness.....
I didn’t follow the case closely but I have the overwhelming feeling that he literally just didn’t want to or know how to support himself and be an adult. And because he’s a psychopath, he thought he’d just murder his parents in such a gruesome way and obvious that he was bound to face life in prison. He never needs to think about getting a job or a place to live again; everything is organized and provided. Scumbag.
Julia Xoxo psychopathy
Why? Fear of living responsibly and getting cut off financially.
@@katyalupochev9589 he would have plead guilty if that’s what he wanted.
Im still in amazement and stil heartbroken over these loses, Rip to Mother and Father
Outgoing, friendly, happy....because he thought he was going to get $500,000
Oh, he didn't wait for Christmas to kill them...why wait?
He wasn't going to commit murder? He brought the kill kit with him TO THANKSGIVING DINNER.
I know the guy has to try but COME ON!
"Out going, friendly, happy, yeah I bet he was!" Too funny. Love this woman
Lmao the defence closing argument. You lost before you begun.
I think thst was the defense making sure he gettings lock up
This man must be entirely insane to do this to his parents-- particularly decapitating and simmering his MOTHER"S HEAD. Absolutely disgusting. It's one thing to want your parents' money, but it's quite another to go to this perverse extreme.
There is no way anyone can defend this man who killed his parents.
That woman attorney at the end of closing nailed it👏🏻🙌🏻
Did anyone else notice that he started to smirk or smile when they were talking about the part where his mom left Walmart didn’t have a care in the world but little did she know that she was walking into a trap to be killed I swear To God he smiled a little
I think he had a real bad relationship with his parents, especially his mom. And it didn’t happen overnight, he planned out thus gruesome day. He is devil possessed.
Yes, he did smirked
Yes I saw the same thing. Wow!!
Andrea P There was another part in one of the other videos can’t remember which one where the medical examiner said to the DA oh I’m sorry to “cut you off” and he started to smile then too! He almost snickered or laughed! Then there was a part I think it was in closing statements were the DA said something about he put their body parts in those tubs making some crazy stew, I can’t remember the exact words but he took a pen and wrote it down and smiled and looked like he was gonna laugh!! He’s so creepy
Caroline Di yes!!! So creepy!!!
The fact he can seat there emotionless shows he did it. Anyone who didn’t would be clearly upset about the whole situation
seriously they would cry having to see their parents dead body over and over again
what in the world caused him to hate them so much????
@Andrew Orahoske I thought the family said he wasLisa's only child?
Andrew Orahoske Lisa was his biological mother. Joel Sr. had 3 daughters from a previous marriage, and the girls lived primarily with their mom and spent summers with Joel Sr, Lisa and Joel Jr.
His attorney was trying to fight a losing case. Ridiculous defense closing statements but he was trying. I can’t imagine being in the defense attorney’s position.
By the end of the prosecutor's arguments he does seem visibly shaken (even though he barley shows emotion). I think it was potato salad comment that got him.
omg i just noticed the back of Mrs Guys pants have no stab marks remember they said he stabbed her multiple times in the buttocks but when you look at the back of the pants they are only cut. so after he took off her clothes he was stabbing her even after she was dead
Joel Guy Jr's punishment is having to listen to his attorney defending him. I'm surprised given his behavior in court with inappropriate smiling and laughing, he didn't burst out laughing at this guy's RIDICULOUS defense!!
I never saw him laughing or smirking. Can someone give me a timestamp?
@@RBLong0928 Well he has some kind of facial movements which could be interpreted as smirking. I definitely saw him never laugh during proceeds but believe he smirked a couple times but did his best to supress it. The reasons being comical situations in the court room, like when some in the audience smiled too. When the prosecution asked the doc "can you hear me" he sort of smirked imo.
Barbie it was a previous trial segment...there were a few times during horrifying testimony he was talking with his attorney literally laughing and smiling.
Man I don’t know if The worlds biggest defense attorney would be able to defend this man.
@@kassi3538 The best attorney in the world could not have presented a decent defense.
OMG! That defense attorney is grounds for incompetent representation. smdh On second thought, I guess that's all he had to go on really.
Joel Guy wanted to represent himself but was denied. The defense attorney's are just there to facilitate Joel Guy's self-representation.
@@BizarreBazaarBW, old saying goes: Someone that represents themselves has a fool for a client.
The defense was going through the motions just barely doing their duty.
That guy scares me because how many other people are quietly making plans, they just haven't struck yet.
It's ALWAYS in the eyes
I know a person who is an adult who grew up to hate a parent because the parent coddled them so badly as a child that they had difficult time standing on their own two feet, failure to launch, afraid of the world, and to this day has no respect for that parent as an adult even though as a child they liked being coddled.
Joel Jrs parents coddled him and he grew to hate them. He didn’t love them and had no problems killing them. He blamed them for his inabilities to get along independent of them. Then when they cut him off, the hate he always felt took action.
Just my opinion.
Is it just me, or was there a slight smile on Joel Guy Jr’s face when the prosecutor showed his mother exiting Walmart and says “little did Lisa Guy know the terror that awaited her.” I’ve never seen a monster in a horror movie that’s as scary as this creature. It’s incredible how things like Joel manage to get through life undetected.
What a ridiculous closing argument from the defense attorney!! Poor dude… I guess he really couldn’t say much else. 🤦🏻♀️
I kinda feel bad for the defense lawyers, they literally have nothing to work with to defend this monster.. they must be public defenders to go in knowing they won’t win the case.
I'm assuming in this case the lawyer probably wasn't getting much work and thought taking this case knowing that monster was guilty and definitely loosing the trial , lawyer looses a trial still gets paid and possibly a few job's inn the hope's of some free publicity 🤷♀️ only logical sense I can make of the lawyer defending such vile sad case
Great prosecuting closing and excellent rebuttal. This guy is a spoiled entitled brat with no conscience . Even during this trial he is trying to get the insurance pay off.There is no emotion from him during all this. He looks like he is watching a movie.
Happy, friendly, outgoing.....That is because he had his eye on a lot of money. Sick sick man. I feel so bad for this family
The "outgoing, friendly, and happy" ax murderer.
Mostly peaceful
But, "Happy people have endorphins, so, happy people don't kill their husbands" (or their parents). Legally Blonde. .... LOL
Im so curious, did they ever ask how he felt upon committing the attacks, why he decapitated her, how he felt seeing the FP/ME/Postmortem photos?
It looked to me like he was proud when they showed the court those photos. He's one sick puppy.
Just an insult to a puppy. He s a heartless souless monster
This judge is great!! Kind, soft sproken, etc. The best I've seen watching on these court shows. He is tops! God Bless Him!!
Is he smirking??? 😳
Rach Yes I believe he is. I have noticed that several times during the trial. Sickening.
Seems he wants attention and fame maybe.
Yup he smirked a lot!! 🤬🤬
yeah but will he be smirking with Bubba in prison ?🤣🤣🤣
YEP! POS 🤬🤮
The defense attorney was grasping at straws. But we already knew that he had no defense back on day 1 when his two minute opening statement consisted of thanking the jury members for their service and advising them to listen for reasonable doubt in the State's evidence.
I think they're going for ineffective assistance of counsel.....aka "new trial" that he still won't win
I wouldn't want to be on the defense team. I'm surprised he didn't just say, look...he did it, no doubt. .then plead for less prison time. But, to attack the prosecution's case is just ineffective and may have an adverse result that will cause jurors to detest the defense for thinking they can't reason thru the obvious evidence. I'm not sure why he thought the bodies would degrade so much they wouldn't be able to determine cause of death or why he didn"t follow thru with his plan of disposing evidence. Did he get tired from all the physical and emotional exertion it took to do what he had done? Why did he go ahead and use the money to pay his bills knowing full well this was traceable and would end with his arrest. He knew he eventually would be caught..just left too much evidence. ..so why go on with the charade. He obviously was not happy after and knew the life he earlier envisioned was never to come to fruition. I hope we will learn more regarding his train of thought before, during and after this horrific event.
He was outgoing and happy with his sister Michelle because he was looking forward to the money "he thought" he was going to obtain. He didn't want to be a suspect. How do you pretend not to be a suspect? You just heard it from his attorney!!
During the end of closing arguments, notice how he's not suppressing a smile anymore, the prosecutors words wiped the smirk right off rat boys face. He knows he's going to prison for the rest of his life.
i dont think his eyes could have gotten any wider jesus he just looks like a nutball....he has literally no emotions seeing the photos and videos and no emotions to the families speaking bout the loss. he just sat there totally emotionless (other than maybe a smirk or two)
What a nightmare for this loving family.Prayers to find peace..
I am applauding the state's closing argument. What a wonderful job by both prosecutors. It almost brought me to tears listening to the recount of these heinous despicable murders of joel jrs loving parents. This is the only time I haven't felt sick to my stomach looking at joel jrs face during the trial, when he had to sit there and listen to the state's wonderful presentation of what he did and what a horrible person he is. What a great job the state did throughtout. And the judge is such a sweetheart. I am so very glad justice was served for this couple. May joel jr spend the rest of his life thinking about what he did to the very people that gave him life.
Why does everyone say 'in' the floor instead of 'on' the floor?
5:45 ..... 😮😮😮😮 see the smirk when he mentioned that she had no idea what was waiting for her ..... he is evil.
Phenomenal closing arguments by both prosecutors. First a straightforward presentation of the facts; then in rebuttal a heart-wrenching summation: She paid for the chemicals used to disintegrate their bodies; she paid for the potato salad that he bought after he killed them because he was hungry. Wow.
That rebuttal really got to me, tears were slowly oozing and didn’t even noticed until one dropped on my iPhone.
That poor defense attorney. Bless his heart, I don't know how he could stand up there and try to make a closing argument with all of the evidence.
My God how does it come to this how?prayers to the family🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
How on earth was this attorney supposed to put on a defense? He didn't cross examine anyone. What could he even say in closing against ALL of that forensic and other evidence?
wonder what his parents were saying while he was attacking and what if anthing he said.
I think about that often actually
This defence team can not be serious lmfao
Really? The defense seems to be hoping that “outgoing, friendly and happy” will be their equivalent to: “if it doesn’t fit, you must acquit.” We all realize you don’t have much to work with but seriously?? Good luck with that.
When the male attorney says "Little did she know.....the terror that awaited her" watch this piece of garbage hold back a smile!! I can't believe this is a human, walking amongst us...and to think there may be more terrifies me.
The female prosecuterer in the closing statement is great
These poor people gave him their whole life. And then he took their lives when they were ready to relax .. May god bless them and welcome them in Heaven. He has no tears to regret what he did.
The prosecution is just too good, I thank them for all of us watching ❤️ something so horrific deserves a hero!
I think he hated women
He killed his dad? He had 40+, her 30+ this is baseless
@@LivsTanks He had no time for his sisters, I really think there is much more to this than money.
Zuleiga Hanslip regardless, the above sentiment is baseless
@Ryan Thompson I agree
Defense lawyer needs to retire.
Unfortunately He's Not Around Other Inmates To "Take Care Of Him"
The dufus figured out how to be taken care of for life. Now we all get to pay for him for the rest of his life. And I think he gets to attend courses from jail too. Ugh.
Look how fast ol' boy is breathing...look closely, you'll see it...it's during the ladies closing statement. He knows his goose is cooked!!
You know the defense is scratching around for things to say when they take less than only 8 minutes in a closing statement.
He knew he was done when the defence lady was finishing up! He constantly was blinking the more she went on! He is so evil, not sick but evil!!!
This guy is loving the attention
This is one of the best if not the best prosecution closing arguments I have ever heard.
Those poor poor people😞
He was on a high before he did this..it was an anticipation of what he was going to do...period.
Right??
Not to mention, it is Well-known that a chunk of people get seemingly calmer & happier right before committing an act of violence, if for the excitement for the violence itself or the potential rewards.
That defense attorney is a joke. But, he HAD to know that there was ZERO chance to get this guy off.
Thing is though, especially as an appointed attorney, they have to give the best defense possible...as not to taint the trial and give ANY reason for an appeal of the conviction to be granted.
True but I bet you he appeals.