On the contract thing, i love my lawyer clients! We discuss everything way in advance and sometimes catch things so early and it saves me so much time and stress as a vendor!
My parents were at a wedding that ended up occurring during a blizzard! People in town were still able to make it. Out-of-town caterer had to cancel. My parents and a few others volunteered to run to the local grocer, which did thankfully have a hot deli, to buy what they could. It wasn’t a lot, but they had fried chicken and sides. What you said about buffets needing more food is so true! People were oblivious that this meal was scraped together. Chicken ran out before the volunteers had a chance to put together their own plate. And one person had the gall to come back for seconds! 😅
It may be possible to sue the vendor for more than the value of the contract. There may be additional penalties that the couple had to pay, and it basically ruined the entire event (which costs much more than the ~6k).
@@dolleeshay9831I don’t know the term that would be used, but in a civil court you could claim additional damages because if people left the venue early it could be seen as the caterers fault. But if they got charged for clean up or ordered emergency food from a local restaurant you could ask for reimbursement, stress caused, and legal fees.
I feel like the caterer had completely forgotten about the wedding and had to scrap something last minute with what they had in stock to try and save the day, hence the lack of drinks and mistake on one of the items. They probably didn't "forget", just didn't happen to have these in stock. Edit : also, a buffet requires much less staff than food served at the table, so I guess they had completely forgotten about the event and had to call one or two people of their staff last minute, hence the change to a buffet. Also, the staff having to cover up on on a day off was probably not too keen on cleaning while they should have been home resting. Note to self : check again with every vendor two weeks in advance, just to make sure they haven't forgotten about us.
My husband and I got married on September 23rd 2023. We thankfully didn't have any vendor issues but we did have a very rough start to our wedding. It was with our guest we had 60 people on our guest list who were suppose to show 10 mins before the ceremony we were messaging guest to find out where ever one was some replied they were sick, some it was had an emergency, and some didn't even reply but looked at it. We ended up having only 15 to 20 people show and our catering was pay per person. I'm so thankful for our venue and all the vendors because they made the night truly amazing speaking that I was a wreck in the beginning. Thankfully our catering company boxed all the food and everyone who attended was able to take it home. I could never imagine going through this.
Yes that’s so true about the lawyers being the only ones to read the contracts! My husband read every contract and was like “their contract makes no sense they need to fix it. “ 😂
My question is what food item was completely different? My first thought was please tell me it wasn't the vegetarian option or something to do with food allergies or restrictions. Not that the situation could get much worse
Honestly, the caterer's excuse is rubbish. If someone other than the couple tried to make changes to the timeline or the type of service or the menu, they need to be confirming those changes with the couple. If something out of their control happens that make them late or mean they need to change a menu item, they need to communicate with the couple or wedding planner or some other point of contact designated by the couple so that the couple aren't blindsided (although a traffic jam or accident and a supply shortage wouldn't explain away the uncommunicated change in service or the leaving early).
As someone who has worked in catering for 20+ years this is an absolute no! This situation requires a full refund! There is no explanation that would excuse this ! I have had to scramble behind the scenes but my bride and her guests never knew. Every good caterer has a contingency plan
Recently engaged law student here lol. I always read every contract I sign. I want to know all the expectations of everything. I also have been asking many vendors lots of questions to get a good feel for what to expect day of. I have always been an over planner but with the wedding there is so much to make sure you get straight before committing to a vendor
As a wedding photographer, hearing these stories really suck! I hate having couples so distressed after spending their hard earned money and time planning a once in a lifetime event. Most vendors I work with are amazing but I've had caterers literally bully me to make a point that they hate other vendors and then charge the couple for vendor meals when we aren't given the, I had one catering company try and make me sign that we aren't allowed to eat any cocktail hour food and we aren't even allowed to use the bathrooms, we had to use bathrooms a 5 minute walk away. They're always the first people to ask me for free photos for promotion as well! I hope this person gets a full refund and writes an honest review about them.
Our reception was this past weekend. We hired a reputable DOC and she bailed on us 48 hrs before our event. I was refunded in full 48 hrs AFTER our event. I can elaborate more on that part but I would like to know if IATA for wanting to negativity review her everywhere possible so this doesn't happen to someone else? She claims because she refunded us she abided by her contract but she left us high and dry 48hrs before our event! Our family, friends, and us- the couple- had to do so much extra before/during/after and that caused so much additional stress. I mean, we hired someone else to do these things so we could have an extra set of hands because the whole reception was DIY with decor. Her part was minimal and mostly breakdownl- I had already planned everything to a T (thank you Jamie, my online wedding planner!). I guess my questions are in regard to a specific occurrence: post-reception. A bride in one of my local FB groups posted about having cold feet with her month-of-planner and I briefly shared my story. My DOC immediately emailed me about how it was unfair to review her like that bc she had refunded us. I replied about her screwing up the entire day up and that it wasn't a review because I had just commented on a post but that I definitely intend to write reviews. I asked her not to contact me again. Well, she did. I didn't reply and blocked her. I didn't tag her or her business in the comment that upset her, she just saw it bc she advertises her business there and that's how I found her. She had no remorse and gave no reason beyond "circumstances out of her control.". If it were a serious personal matter, of course I would understand, but when I wrote that to her she said she has no obligation to share her personal life. I believe that sort of explanation would be totally warranted if I canceled on someone like that and that makes me think she just flaked. AITA for wanting to write negative reviews of her or should I let it go. My husband would prefer the latter even though he is also upset I'm not on reddit but I am contemplating signing on to post this and all the emails. Husband wants me to drop "the stress". BTW- Central TX babes and Jamie- it was Exquisite Events by Genevieve. Genevieve Vega
Update from OP on Reddit: "They said before Christmas they would refund me but have since blocked me. I’m honestly tired of it at this point + will not pursue it anymore. I want to remember my wedding as a good thing and not this hassling around"
All good suggestions! I'd like to suggest not refunding gratuities. The hourly staff that gets these gratuities likely had nothing to do with any of the incidents of the day. It would be unfair for those staff members to have worked hard to correct an employer's mistake and lose their tips.
The vendors excuse makes is sound like a vital employee quit last minute, I bet there’s some a story there. Keep a look out for a malicious compliance story from a catering employee 👀 lol
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MY HUSBAND IS A LAWYER! He read all of our wedding contracts! He also says that he has a job because people don't read contracts!
On the contract thing, i love my lawyer clients! We discuss everything way in advance and sometimes catch things so early and it saves me so much time and stress as a vendor!
My parents were at a wedding that ended up occurring during a blizzard! People in town were still able to make it. Out-of-town caterer had to cancel. My parents and a few others volunteered to run to the local grocer, which did thankfully have a hot deli, to buy what they could. It wasn’t a lot, but they had fried chicken and sides.
What you said about buffets needing more food is so true! People were oblivious that this meal was scraped together. Chicken ran out before the volunteers had a chance to put together their own plate. And one person had the gall to come back for seconds! 😅
It may be possible to sue the vendor for more than the value of the contract. There may be additional penalties that the couple had to pay, and it basically ruined the entire event (which costs much more than the ~6k).
Such as emotional distress or pain and suffering? or something else?
@@dolleeshay9831I don’t know the term that would be used, but in a civil court you could claim additional damages because if people left the venue early it could be seen as the caterers fault. But if they got charged for clean up or ordered emergency food from a local restaurant you could ask for reimbursement, stress caused, and legal fees.
I feel like the caterer had completely forgotten about the wedding and had to scrap something last minute with what they had in stock to try and save the day, hence the lack of drinks and mistake on one of the items. They probably didn't "forget", just didn't happen to have these in stock.
Edit : also, a buffet requires much less staff than food served at the table, so I guess they had completely forgotten about the event and had to call one or two people of their staff last minute, hence the change to a buffet. Also, the staff having to cover up on on a day off was probably not too keen on cleaning while they should have been home resting.
Note to self : check again with every vendor two weeks in advance, just to make sure they haven't forgotten about us.
Total refund! What did the contract say you had with them?? Put a warning out on social to anyone else who may have booked them!
My husband and I got married on September 23rd 2023. We thankfully didn't have any vendor issues but we did have a very rough start to our wedding. It was with our guest we had 60 people on our guest list who were suppose to show 10 mins before the ceremony we were messaging guest to find out where ever one was some replied they were sick, some it was had an emergency, and some didn't even reply but looked at it. We ended up having only 15 to 20 people show and our catering was pay per person. I'm so thankful for our venue and all the vendors because they made the night truly amazing speaking that I was a wreck in the beginning. Thankfully our catering company boxed all the food and everyone who attended was able to take it home. I could never imagine going through this.
Yes that’s so true about the lawyers being the only ones to read the contracts! My husband read every contract and was like “their contract makes no sense they need to fix it. “ 😂
My question is what food item was completely different? My first thought was please tell me it wasn't the vegetarian option or something to do with food allergies or restrictions. Not that the situation could get much worse
It might be a good idea to contact the caterer who commented to ask them what to look out for in contracts with this service
Honestly, the caterer's excuse is rubbish. If someone other than the couple tried to make changes to the timeline or the type of service or the menu, they need to be confirming those changes with the couple. If something out of their control happens that make them late or mean they need to change a menu item, they need to communicate with the couple or wedding planner or some other point of contact designated by the couple so that the couple aren't blindsided (although a traffic jam or accident and a supply shortage wouldn't explain away the uncommunicated change in service or the leaving early).
Honestly they ruined a large portion of their wedding and this couple deserves a full refund
As someone who has worked in catering for 20+ years this is an absolute no! This situation requires a full refund! There is no explanation that would excuse this ! I have had to scramble behind the scenes but my bride and her guests never knew. Every good caterer has a contingency plan
Recently engaged law student here lol. I always read every contract I sign. I want to know all the expectations of everything. I also have been asking many vendors lots of questions to get a good feel for what to expect day of. I have always been an over planner but with the wedding there is so much to make sure you get straight before committing to a vendor
As a wedding photographer, hearing these stories really suck! I hate having couples so distressed after spending their hard earned money and time planning a once in a lifetime event. Most vendors I work with are amazing but I've had caterers literally bully me to make a point that they hate other vendors and then charge the couple for vendor meals when we aren't given the, I had one catering company try and make me sign that we aren't allowed to eat any cocktail hour food and we aren't even allowed to use the bathrooms, we had to use bathrooms a 5 minute walk away. They're always the first people to ask me for free photos for promotion as well! I hope this person gets a full refund and writes an honest review about them.
Our reception was this past weekend. We hired a reputable DOC and she bailed on us 48 hrs before our event. I was refunded in full 48 hrs AFTER our event. I can elaborate more on that part but I would like to know if IATA for wanting to negativity review her everywhere possible so this doesn't happen to someone else?
She claims because she refunded us she abided by her contract but she left us high and dry 48hrs before our event! Our family, friends, and us- the couple- had to do so much extra before/during/after and that caused so much additional stress. I mean, we hired someone else to do these things so we could have an extra set of hands because the whole reception was DIY with decor. Her part was minimal and mostly breakdownl- I had already planned everything to a T (thank you Jamie, my online wedding planner!).
I guess my questions are in regard to a specific occurrence: post-reception.
A bride in one of my local FB groups posted about having cold feet with her month-of-planner and I briefly shared my story. My DOC immediately emailed me about how it was unfair to review her like that bc she had refunded us. I replied about her screwing up the entire day up and that it wasn't a review because I had just commented on a post but that I definitely intend to write reviews. I asked her not to contact me again. Well, she did. I didn't reply and blocked her. I didn't tag her or her business in the comment that upset her, she just saw it bc she advertises her business there and that's how I found her. She had no remorse and gave no reason beyond "circumstances out of her control.". If it were a serious personal matter, of course I would understand, but when I wrote that to her she said she has no obligation to share her personal life. I believe that sort of explanation would be totally warranted if I canceled on someone like that and that makes me think she just flaked. AITA for wanting to write negative reviews of her or should I let it go. My husband would prefer the latter even though he is also upset I'm not on reddit but I am contemplating signing on to post this and all the emails. Husband wants me to drop "the stress".
BTW- Central TX babes and Jamie- it was Exquisite Events by Genevieve. Genevieve Vega
Update from OP on Reddit:
"They said before Christmas they would refund me but have since blocked me. I’m honestly tired of it at this point + will not pursue it anymore. I want to remember my wedding as a good thing and not this hassling around"
All good suggestions! I'd like to suggest not refunding gratuities. The hourly staff that gets these gratuities likely had nothing to do with any of the incidents of the day. It would be unfair for those staff members to have worked hard to correct an employer's mistake and lose their tips.
This video inspired me to make sure I book someone to literally just BUST my tables.
Hey Jamie , May you do a video on your take on soft rsvp launch for a wedding that is 10 month's away?
Out of curiosity, What is a soft RSVP launch?
The vendors excuse makes is sound like a vital employee quit last minute, I bet there’s some a story there. Keep a look out for a malicious compliance story from a catering employee 👀 lol
Ohhh 29 Palms 😳😂😂
Different topic: Jamie I love your content and you've been really helpful for my planning process but I have to be honest and tell you that signing up for your free timeline was a mistake. I have never been spammed by any newsletter as much as by yours. It's really annoying and even a little manipulative in tone. Please change this as its a real turn off.
I’m so deeply sorry you feel this way. That was in no way our intention. We use our newsletter to help tens of thousands of people plan in a timely manner and with the greatest care, and I am super sorry if that might feel overwhelming to you! To my knowledge, this is the first time we’ve received feedback of this kind, so we know it works well for many, but that doesn’t mean it works for all. Please, if it feels like too much, unsubscribe if it’s not a good fit! No one likes an inbox clogged with emails that don’t serve them. 🤍
But truly, I appreciate your feedback and will share it with the team. We are always striving to improve, and your input matters to me. Thank you for sharing.
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