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- Sailor's flagship pen.
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I don't see what the fuss is about when it comes to CC--cartridge/converters. You don't have to have an ink bottle handy or a travelling inkpot to refill from. CC pens are extremely easy to clean. If you change ink colors you have to work a PF--piston filler to the point of fatigue to get clear water out of it. The exception may be Pelikan PFs; you can unscrew the nib unit and run water into the barrel until it is clear (plus I use a cotton swab to get the excess water out). AND the CCs write every bit as well as PFs when you compare them within the equivalent price ranges/nib types.
I have been waiting for this for a long long time... "Profit" is the name of the model (cigar shape. The 1911L is also a Profit), the flat top one is called "Progear".
It says King Profit beacuse it's the japanese name for the cigar pen (now it's the 1911), since ther's also the King Professional Gear, that is the flat top shape pen.
Thanks for the input!
One of my favourite pens of all time for that wonderful writing experience. I don't mind the converter so much - at least the system is easy to maintain.
Shootout with the 149 and M1000?
The shootout is shot.
It's weird that Sailor supposedly spend much time and money researching the piston mechanism for their 2006 Special Edition KOP Piston and then never made more KOP with the piston mechanism after that.
Engeika has it for significantly less than $800 and it also comes with a ton of options that weren't mentioned. Not only is there the ebonite version but also a resin standard version (similar to a MB 149), a resin flat top (both much are less expensive), a celluloid, a demonstrator, multiple urushis, multiple maki-e's, and there is even a LE piston filling version (Realo). All have the same nib and a huge price range. That doesn't even include all the specialty nibs that you can get from Sailor.
No affiliation with Sailor or Engeika, I am just a huge fan of this pen.
I used a friends KOP with a medium Naginata Togi nib once and it blew my doors off...Epic Amazing!!
Quite spectacular the way the pen actually writes. It seems the ink flows even before the nib touches the paper. Definitely in the wish list, regardless the price tag. It would be interesting to compare the performances of this nib with the 21k of the ProGear or the 1911, which are much more affordable...
Well, there are worse filling options, like a piston which can't be accessed without voiding the warranty, for instance. It's pretty obvious where the competition lies, and between ebonite and a nicely fettled nib this looks like a comfortable winner to me. The lack of bling is refreshing too.
Yes, definitely a restrained pen.
I dare say, except for the C/C filling system, this is better than the MB149, and even the M1000 from Pelikan.
Some say that Sailor is a copycat of MB pens. If so, thye copied them, and then made them better.
Truely, this is the King of Pen.
your sir are so right
Get the sailor King of pen 1911 realo. All the upsides and literally no downsides. It's beautiful
nope, KoP writes smoother with larger sweet-spot. the smooth ebonite body really feels different in a good way and it feels fun and very enjoyable writing with KoP. The only drawback is the small ink capacity of the cartridge converter. for a pen that makes you forget you're writing for a long period of time, you need larger ink capacity.
How would this compare to the Namiki Emperor
HAIL THE TRUE KING OF PENS
I prefer the "off-screen" measurement format. I like the comparisons to other pens side-by-side as well.
Great review as usual.
Well, if they didn't want to ruin the looks of the pen (because adding the piston turning knob or the blind cap would spoil the looks, they could at least make it take some kind of custom, bigger converter. Because when I look at this barrel, this converter looks very, very small, like it doesn't even end in the half of it, which is a waste of space if you ask me...
It is pretty small and it doesn't hold much inks.
Ordered mine from Engeika earlier this year. Much cheaper and only took one week from Japan to New England.
Thanks for the suggestion.
if you really want to buy one, may be you would want to check out ebay and yahoo auction japan. The Japanese sellers offer good deals.
Good suggestion, thanks!
Excellent review! And your handwriting is simply phenomenal.
Ironically, to the folks who complain about this not being piston-filled, there actually is such a thing as a piston-filled KOP. From what I've heard, it's one heck of a pen.
amazing pen for Sailor
Thanks review,
I'm curious. I've always been told that Sailor nibs generally will give some feedback when writing (not scratch, but it lets you know you're writing on paper, not butter, which can be pleasent for some) is the King of Pen the same in that regard?
It is.
I agree with Dmitry's comment. This pen is very overpriced and insane that it's not even a piston filler. Let alone the body is made of ebonite. The nib is nice, but in my experience doesn't write any nicer than many comparably priced Delta or Montegrappa pens. I'd be interested to know your personal reasoning as to why you feel the price for this pen is "worth" it but in a prior video that Montblanc 149 is overpriced and not worth MSRP. Just curious.
sbrebrown Hell yeah! Duke Nukem and fountain pens! The two most iconic badass things ever!
Hi Stephen. There appears to be several models of the King of Pen. There is in fact a piston filler version too. The code is
Number: 11-7002. I'm thinking of buying this particular one. Not sure if there is a whole lot of difference between these two. Would be great for your review on this though.
Thank you for the input and the suggestion.
Hi Stephen. I really enjoyed your review. The instructions though were only partially in Kanji. Probably more than 50% was in Hiragana, a set of just over 40 characters based on phonemes, that can be read out loud, even if you don't speak Japanese. They sort of "fill the gap" when a Kanji ideogram is obscure or rare, and makes for easier reading for normal purposes. Chinese has no equivalent making it easy to spot Chinese text. A bit esoteric, but could be useful spotting the real provenance of a pen. I don't know if this will be useful or not. Also, again, I really enjoyed your review. Thanks
+BeagleMart Thank you!
BeagleMart j
Profit is the original standard cigar shape 1911 fountain pen ...
I like the smooth and super fine sailor gold nibs, but prefer piston fillers to C/C. A pity Sailor only has the Realo for piston fillers, which has not much of an ink capacity but comes with a high price. If only there was a cheaper piston filler which can produce a Japanese F or even better, a Japanese EF line that has a gold nib...
That would be cool!
What about the fact that the King Sailor Realo 1911 demonstrator version in an image on the web has a sealant on the inside part of the section?
Should you consider this fact that? Sailor appear in consideration of this good? I think the question is retoric if you take a look at the photo of the Realo version demonstrator. I never bought a pen who has been assembled in this horrible way. Should you buy? I think you should investigate better the inside part of some pens probably.
i just bought the same pen . but mine has a gold ring around the cap.
Does the cartridge have an above average capacity?
Glad you liked it, enjoyed the review :)
Thank you!
I would like more about the difference between Ebonite nad the other finer resins and celluliods thanks again
there is one at 80% off, NO just say no to the pen lust!!! lol
Smooth, smooth, smooth.
I recently bought a Sailor 1911L Fine Nib. I would like to know how do you compare the King of Pen with 1911L. Thanks.
The King of Pen is considerably larger, but both models have good nibs.
Your home looks like the top floor from where I lived in Leiden, 23 years ago.
Near the harbor :-).
I was thinking Rijnsburgersingel. Well it was 21 year ago that I moved out of there.
Not the same place, then :-).
Do you always write that fast?
Pen...more pens...I...want...more...pens! :D
You can't have an expensive pen with a C/C. It's a slap in the face to the consumer. Think about the Pilot Custom 823, the Montblanc 146+, every Pelikan, The Conids, etc.
Have you had the chance of writing with the Eagle version of this pen.. I take it that refers to a pacific Nib ,, ?? Kind Regards, Steve'o
I've never used any of those specialty Sailor nibs.
That's what she said
This guy can talk
Hey Stephen! I am in the market for a large/chunkier classic style pen. I'm looking for something as close to a Classic LB5 without the price tag. Aside from the Montblanc 149 and Sailor King of Pens what do you recommend? I don't want to spend more than $500.
A Guider Super Zimbo?
Hmmm interesting. Not quite my cup of tea. Something a little more classic looking. I wouldn't mind going the vintage route either.
+Daniel Kazda vintage 149 is a popular Grail. 1950's ones are I think the most desirable
@sbrebrown: which do you prefer: sailor KOP or pelikan M1000?
Probably the M1000
Samurai pen: simple, elegant, and totally effective.
Good way to describe it.
A wonderful review as always. Ive just bought this pen but with a B nib from japan. 50% off the uk price including taxes and it was sealed. ive noticed that it is so much more comfortable to use than my MB 149 but i cant figure out why. Maybe the section is slightly thinner on the kop and maybe the nib is slightly thinner.
Thank you! Might I ask how you went about ordering it from Japan?
Engeika. And it took 3 days to arrive in the uk and yet a further 6 to clear customs. Thats how inefficient our system works in this country
Thank you, that's very helpful!
Completely unrelated question, but can anyone tell me if the Italix Parson's Essential is still a good buy even if the Italix Churchman's Prescriptor is out? I really don't like big heavy pens, but I want an italic nib that is smooth/wet on a pen that isn't big or heavy.
I don't see how launching a new pen would make an older model less good.
Never mind, ignore my question, you're right. Thank you!
abraham2057 The Prescriptor is mainly bigger and heavier, but the nib on the Essential is of similar quality to the Prescriptor. So I think the Essential would serve you well!
You've no idea how glad I am to hear that! I now feel much better about my purchase lol can't wait for it to arrive!
Late reply but for what it's worth, I have a Parson's Essential with medium stub. It is indeed perfect for daily use. I will get a second one with a regular nib soon.
What's the bin size on the one one you tested?
nico heidenreich 12:44
dern 80% off NOT, it was a 1911 .. still a nice 1911 but poop! lol
anyway again very happy for your insights
Yum! I love ebonite and this gorgeously understated pen looks like some "Serious Nibbage" to me.
Id like to be the king of a pen. Could be interesting.
Maybe pen companies should start making lever fillers again.
nice ink.
is ebonite good for sweaty hands? my resin cartier is extremely slippery and I was looking for an alternative
Water will discolour ebonite. I also think it will get slippery.
+sbrebrown thanks for the response!
Do you have any suggestions for a pen that has a good
grip?
+Henry l A Lamy Nexx?
I love the KOP I love the KOP I love the KOP I love the KOP
All hail the king of pens!
That is one ugly pen. Sparse on the trim. $800.00? I don't think so....