i was thinking if the gorosei are conected with each floor of impel, and all the damage they suffer go directly to the prisioneers. make sense if IMU is the number 6 so the storngest prisioner take her dmg
No way dude.. there are sky islands.. places where you don’t get tortured and are also safe from any flood.. impel down may be safe from a flood.. but it’s still hell on earth
OK so I think a couple things are curious...Crocus lives in a whale...Rayleigh has learned to coat ships so they can go underwater...Shanks has no devil fruit users...is the crew of Roger prepared for the world to sink?
@Ichhabdeinevorhaut Honestly, depending on the story, there could be no difference. It's mainly a vibes thing. When I think fantasy, I think Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, or Dracula. Things that don't care about giving some phony science jargon filled explanation about how they work. They just are, and you're expected to take it at face value. In a series like Star Trek, everything is said to be the result of natural forces, it's all just really complicated science that we 21st century people couldn't possibly comprehend. But they'll say a bunch of tech jargon to make it sound plausible. Some science fiction will try even harder to sound realistic, like Interstellar or Primer (time travel movie). Some things like Samurai Jack, Star Wars, Adventure Time and One Piece blur the lines because they have elements of each, and things like the force is simultaneously a mysterious magical property of the universe, and force-users can be explained because they have "high midoclorian counts" in their DNA or whatever. Samurai Jack has him fighting an ontologically evil demon with true magical powers, but he does so in a futuristic setting filled with robots, lasers, flying cars, and all other manner of advanced technology. His sword is magic, and the only weapon that can truly kill Aku, despite Jack having access to lasers and gattling guns. Adventure Time has a fantasy world that is slowly revealed to be the result of some bizarre nuclear war. It's filled with magic and things that are completely unexplainable by science, but all of that magic starts from scientifically informed warfare. One Piece has a lot of elements that don't seem explainable by science, like haki, which all living things have access to including animals, Zoro's Ashura technique, many other things. But also a lot of the technology and strange creatures we see are explainable by science. When you first see animal human hybrids like Monet in Punk Hazard, it seems like it's just fantasy. Then you find out that they're like that because of Law and Caesar. Monet was given those talons and wings. But even then, further back in the chain, is Law's devil fruit the result of science or fantasy magic? We can't say for certain yet. It's in a limbo space between science fiction and fantasy. It's part vibes, part "how advanced does it seem to be", and part "how hard are they trying to make us believe this may one day be possible to make a reality.
It’s not and has never been fully fantasy. It’s been science fiction from the start. Most works that are even classified as fantasy are actually science fiction. There’s a reason you no longer have fantasy as a catagory when you go to buy stuff any more and it is scifi and science fantasy, which is really just scifi again.
You remember all those days of Joyboy's just WILD theories back in the years. Theories that most people wouldn't even come up with at that time, because they were so alian, so outlandish, but yet we still loved hearing them because it was interesting content and so fun to digest. Well here we are in the OP story were some of his theories are actually feeling like possibilties now. So for Joy_boy the reveal at the end of this CH must really hit close to home.
Idk man. Morj had one bad theory and I’ve never seen him in my recommended again. 😅 having crazy theories is alright I suppose. Until you’re influencing subsects of the fandom into false hopes. Then those avid followers of yours debate and argue down everyone else in your name (your being Morj this case)
This chapter was absolutely nuts and changes everything RIP VegaChad, what a absolute legend I guess Global Warning is real and Fishmen (Arlong and Hordy) be like works fine for us lol We've had all these hints but never put two and two together (1. There's a Noah's ark in Fishmen Island 2. The water level rising in Water 7 3. Wano's geography and them not wanting to open the borders 4. The Celestial Dragon living at the highest place and getting rid of the Lunarians)
@@Moe_Posting_Chadi hope so ! I’ve heard so many theories about the world of one piece being sunk by water that in my brain i just accepted it as if it were real
@JoyBoyTheories lol, dont remember where I heard it first, but ABD mentioned it in their last video, too. But don't worry JB, you're in my Top 3 fav OP youtubers.
Nah vegapunk basically told people to not believe the media cause he knows the wg gonna frame his death on somebody else just like how they did with cobra to make the revos look evil
@@Moe_Posting_Chad unless Vegapunk continues to elaborate, but as of right now, it does sort of fulfill catharsis for Kizaru, provides forgiveness for the strawhats, and makes us question if Imu is evil as readers. It really is so good, you're not wrong.
Theres a little detail in the anime, where vegapunk looks like he transported from somwhere before he got stuck in the ancient robot, what if vegapunk transported to Kambakka kingdom to speak to dragon about the world governments plan to kill him, so he set a master plan in motion with dragon.
12:20 I'd like to compare him more to Oppenheimer maybe than einstein, a guy who made devastating weapons that were used take and ruin many lives, and maybe thats what he feels are his sins, and that maybe he deserves death for it.
This reveal is PERFECT by Vegapunk. While many in the OP fandom were hoping for a huge lore drop like the name of the Ancient Kingdom, we got the most efficient and useful piece of information up front. I kept wondering for months now what Vegapunk could say that would truly shock and actually impact the people within the story. Telling them that they are all about to be swallowed (pause) up by the sea is THAT thing. Oda may yet drop a bombshell, but leading with this was necessary.
What a lot of people don’t understand is that theorizing, speculating and guessing as to what is going to happen for this story is the same as the pirates going for the One Piece in One Piece. The fun isn’t just finding out everything of what is to be or not to be, but the journey itself. It’s okay to be right and that is the greatest just like how it’s okay to be wrong and everyone calls you out on that, it’s all okay. I love listening to every new video you put out and all the videos the other One Piece TH-camrs put out there, it’s made me enjoy One Piece way more than just watching the anime and reading the manga by themselves. Keep on creating and theorizing until we reach Laugh Tale or even beyond Laugh Tale at journey’s end. You and every other creator are the life of One Piece ♥️
Its wild the sheer amount of foreshadowing breadcrumbs for this reveal that has been staring us in the face from the very early stages of this story. Even something as simple as Buggy holding it to be so important that he was a good swimmer.
regarding what you said at the very begining about theorists hate. I honestly don't care about anyone being right or wrong. To me this kind of content is just to get the conversation going about one thing we love and have in common: One Piece. And you are doing well at that
3 things 1. I've always assumed that the grandline runs into reverse mountain and then flows up its inside to form the directional current at the top of the geyser. Would love if that ended up being true. 2. This video made me realize how much i love your analysis and how well it interfaces with my perception of reality. It makes me think of /remember so many fun ideas. Your channel is such a vibe. 3. No joke what would it cost me to have you try to analyze Jujutsu Kaisen like you do one piece?
I think that vegapunk's two sins is that he 1. Researched the Void Century 2. Put Bonney at the top of the Pacifista authority command hierachy Both actions are pretty much vegapunk commiting treason against the World Government, he knew these actions would cost him his life but his curiosity and morality got the best of him 14:11 this is a double entendre from vegapunk as hes referring to his future killer which is both Kizaru(his actual killer) and Luffy(via WG Propaganda) but vegapunk unknowningly countered the lies agaisnt luffy so that the world doesnt judge luffy for "killing" vegapunk I 💯% agree with your all blue theory and that this chapter is scary for now alot of pieces are falling in places and we can surmize that the one piece to some extent is a countermeasure or fix for the great flood
Concerning Vegapunk's speech, I red it as he was talking about Luffy, not Imu, as the public would think it's Luffy who killed him, due to the hostage situation
I dont think vegapunk knew that he would be held "hostage" by Luffy at the time of the recording He seemed to believe he would be "executed" so it has to be the world government, right?
@@JoyBoyTheoriesI think oda knew luffy would be here but Vega punk didn’t, I also wonder if imu controls the calm belt and the waters of the world it’s probably why the sea kings inhabit the calm belt
@@JoyBoyTheories I think it's the Marines more specifically, he knew the WG would execute him but he knew they'd likely use Marines and we know Vegapunk's opinion about the nature of the individuals in the organization.
I think the calm belt doesn't act as a dam or there would be a noticeable height difference at the edge of it or at least a slope. Vegapunk said the whole world will flood not just the grand line, i think he choose his words wisely. Imu's weapon raised the water levels across the world grand line included (unless i remember it wrong) the reason for this might be a lot more crazy that i can come up with right now. Just throwing in my 2 cents. I am very excited for the incoming reveals, and great video as always JB.
No, I dont think so. Water molecules "stick" to each other, and without currents you wouldnt be able to notice that you are oriented differently. If you use wano as an example, water levels have risen maybe 20-30 feet, so you wouldnt feel that even if you are technically going down hill
Perhaps the red line will be sent to space ( clues include the CD space suits, Enel returning, lunarians being from the red line) and in that void the water will recede saving the earth
And he basically says "the government will kill me", which is what he thought at the very start of the arc when CP0 arrived, and a reality when he began researching the poneglyphs The leader of the WG is the Gorosei, but vegapunk says "him" singular, meaning he could know about Imu
Aqua Lagoona could be the reflection of water off of the red line. Perhaps the shape of the red line is such that when all the water coming in from reverse mountain bounces off of it, the waves overlap into a massive rouge that hits water 7. Perhaps this was intentional as a punishment or challenge to the island of ship builders.
This comment was made before watching any of this video. The more I think about it the Kingdom of One Piece is likely the entire world. A kingdom that spanned most or all of the continent of like Pangaea. Water has been raising for some time now? Likely part of a weapon or attack used during the void century etc. Mother flame... Now I admit a lot I don't understand but I think the village or city at the bottom of Wano is one of the ultimate hints. In a way this is like Zelda: Windwaker perhaps in the end we will drain a lot of this water? But I also really like the All Blue Red Line being destoryed theory as well. Perhaps both are somehow combined. But how would destroying the red line though reduce the water levels? Or would it? Maybe the raising of the waters is impossible to avoid? But I don't want this story to end in a water world type outcome. So got to be some way to fix, or reverse the issue. If it's caused by a weapon or something that is easy to stop. But can it be reversed? I'm just putting thoughts out there this is not a theory it's just I can't help but think about it.
Vegapunk may be my favourite One Piece theorist.. even if he sometimes gets stuck on Sciences that feel artificially restricted ideologically… almost like a commentary on similar figures… I love that it’s basically a fusion of Tesla with Einstein looks and the Newtonian Headwear tech… all in this culmination of 21st century scientific conversations with Electrical Sciences somewhat removed as they’re only seen in some vague studies of lightning maybe? Though there are powered things… I do wonder what the deal is with another Flame Power Source is it Ímū or Níkà clone stuff and however many clones of Just King… which is sad… but I bet it’s something like that… I think most of this science is not humane by anything but world government standards… Lunarian warlord clones using other peoples’ Devilfruits & having Kízárū laser blasters like an improvement of Dr Gero’s work almost… I bet there will be way more than 2 sins listed as things he did for the government but he messed up by being kind to the victims so he can apologise for not making the lulusia deletion operation get everyone from there, and that they needed to be rude to Cipher Pols whilst they return the clone of a kidnapped father whose gorosei poisoned daughter has been used as leverage to force him to submit to having his life and soul overwritten, which I simply couldn’t allow so i programmed all of her Father’s clones to protect their daughter so that even his deceased form didn’t have the issues of Acting in its own will.. Maybe black beard takes a body and forces Moria to use whatever powers to hijack some people which they then learn to control with shadow and mirrors and pawpawed intangible psyche pieces from combinations of kuma and pudding…. I wonder if Zeus is really all that remains of the Largest of Mothers, her child soul that I guess is Kinda the innocent bit of the lady that ate the Cipher Pols Orphan Dealer to Häjrūdín’s shock… not at the lady being evil but just the little girl Eating people like a Proper Buccaneer sized girl… maybe lap got round more than we thought like if they’re a lunarian Figarland (but hm the hair colour isn’t a Movie design for popular music stuff but they make more of the lineage aspect… I wonder how many slaves are just descendants of perfect clones made hundreds of years earlier to replicate stuff but incorrectly and then the strong hákí occasionally naturally make it to a Body with will of : D, and they don’t fully know their complete copied abilities but you know the numerous characters that have abilities and hákí and other lineage factor alterations from nature and reincarnation OR that and Eating the right Fruit… I mean who says luffy didn’t eat the Devilfruit made from a Roger seraphim created by whatever came before MADS…. I wonder if it’s Mutually Assured Destruction Science or something so that they Can and Might destroy themselves and eachother or shock eachother most once Caesar & judge hear what Vegapunk really has to say… I hope he lists crimes as non criminal important work for the world government in a way that sounds So Mentall Ill that people just feel like “how did such a genius get used to such extreme levels of Evil !? Did No One See This?!” Of course Dragon was busy looking East as Many have been pointing out … would they transmit from East Bkue?! Hehe most of us thinking Ohara and/or Kámàbákkâ Queendom but I’d LOVE if it was made of Holographic Lùlūsíà… but does mother flame need to be there or is it actually secret Tesla energy that I probably can’t easily talk about without people being prevented from seeing it even now?! : D (“FtWG!”) Still good I removed having said too much cause of medical cia-TD but of course I’d be spilling subconscious all over the place… they’ve gotten me but knowing how they’ve gotten you is how you rise above media lies about political theatre casually costing thousands of folks in their processes… but breaking hippocrsttic oath for world government is almost like Deleting a whole country so hard that the sea levels rise… aww wait I forgot which world governments I was talking about at which moments… do excuse : D But lovin the energy for this one man… got me thinking too heavy on the arc again with the new intel… Still think it’s a tactical mislead to force people to prep around a meter of water every however long as more islands get erased… I wonder if it’s actually void century Poseidon that took another ancient weapon’s body and I dunno some devil fruit shenanigans where they play with the Eve tree to sprout admirals rewritten and stuff that’ll make a Níkà-Dancin’ Kízàrū kill a close associate whilst continuously sounding sad about it like he’d had that part of his brain function altered so his true feelings can’t interfere with a mission… Imagine if it’s really not a past message but actual live brain attached to mother flame which might’ve been moved or teleported elsewhere…. I wonder if they can mess with the fruit powers to crazier levels with living Kūmà…. Wonder if sentomaru isn’t something wilder like a MADS Garp of xebec clone…. Or even a fat Lūffy with the Devilfruit…. Man is everything perfect to speculate so many directions about innumerable plot points… The Goda is with us! JoyBoy’s drums continue to sound and it’s always nice to hear some yohohoho… : D This’ll be great 2 weeks for theories! Maybe I’ll ramble some of those theories out in pieces that don’t endanger anything ha (FtWG about most things) Maybe he should apologise for not letting Lūffy the Sun God the murdered Buccaneer Peoples awaited as slaves to liberate them was so overwhelmed by fighting busted call Admiral Kízárū & all the five elders to protect him and Bonney & even sentomaru from Cipher Pols Assassin Squads… with pictures cutting in because Brain Vegapunk is interrupting orignal mesage with updates and starts announcing return of Sun god and fighting the devils that took his soul and his friend’s and his wife forced to produce Bonney for genetic experiments…. So many ways of phrasing things to completely recontextualise everything so people Reallg know what he needs them to… But maybe he doesn’t reveal which things are the sins he managed to be complicit in… Next chapter should probably feel like a slap in the face wake-up or something… but I expect to have my expectations m subverted like classic Oda tactics! Bless the man for his works here, Aye? Love this story…
Not related at all but the 4 road poneglyphs might not be 4 separate locations but rather reference to a 4D location: -1: longitude -2: latitude -3: altitude -4: Time
7:00 so true, in here (the internet) we are not only connected to each other around the world but with many people who only exist now as an immortal, immutable version of their past selves that echoes in the present and an example of this is Nirvana, Kurt has ceased to exist since the early 90's yet he is here in interviews, gainning over a billion views in a song he played before this plataform was even conceived (smell like teen spirit video) and touching, inspiring contless new generations of angsty teens all over again as if he was here, present to do so
My head cannon is that the Ancient Kingdom was the Kingdom of Pangaea. All of the different races lived in one continent under the Sun God. Imu and the boys nuked the continent into oblivion, forcing it all the way to the bottom of the sea floor where Enie’s Lobby is. The results in the fishmen going to the bottom of the ocean and the minks fleeing on the back of baby Zunisha. Not sure where the robot fits in yet, but I think Imu decided to go the whole “pave paradise and put up a parking lot” method and then flexed and built Panagea Castle to fuck with Nika, but also maybe I took too many edibles.!
I didn't dare to think about the matter this far. But I can't deny that I had similar thoughts. I don't want to spoil myself of this story that I enjoy.
What's also noteworthy about Fishman Island is that not only does there being an Ark tell us that a flooded world will happen but Poseidon's weapon (sea kings) are mostly just useful in an aquatic setting.
at 13:40 I feel like it was more a message to the world knowing that the world government would twist the events that occur and pin it on the straw hats
Not only do we get some of the best OP theories from JB but we get history and science lessons and I’m here for it! I had no idea we were still in a literal ice age! This was so dope! I sometimes feel like Oda is low key a conspiracy theorist and just wants to put all his ideas about the real world into his story! I love it and I love how deep you dive into it! Appreciate you and happy to become a member and support the tin foil agendas! 😁
Jp is one of the best OP content creator. He is so kind, willing to have a discussion and he is right a lot of the time even tho he's humble. dude is an Og and a GOAT!!
Hmm-- if the waters of the grand line were like 30'+ higher than the waters of the blues then wouldn't that be super noticeable to anyone who approached the Calm Belts. But we have known several characters who have crossed the calm belt-- Amazon Lily is even in the calm belt, and none of them noted either that the calm belts appear to be gigantic walls of water held mystically in place nor that trying to get into the Grandline from the Calm belt is somehow like sailing uphill and leaving the Grandline through the Calm Belt is like sailing downhill.
water molecules stick to each other, so you'd have to imagine a sort of sloping water level, and the water of the calm belt is rising as well, just extremely slowly As far as sailing up or down it can be an illusion. Because there are no currents. You wouldnt know how you were oriented
Yes this is what I was thinking, the calm belts rise accordingly with all the waters of the OP world. There was never a claim that the calm belts are some sort of barrier, just water without currents that sea kings, special Marine ships with sea stone hulls and Rayleigh lol seem to navigate without an issue. When Lulusia was destroyed, water levels were reported to have risen all over the planet not just the grand line to create the bulge of water as was mentioned in the video. I think the water is coming from an inner ocean that is being tapped into when the knock up stream is activated. Idk what it may be but it sure is fun to guess!
14:30 I think the 'him is more accurately to refer to Kizaru rather than Imu. Knowing their relationship and surely Vega knew the conflict there of Kizaru being a 'corporate slave' Also my hot take is that was vegas entire message. Just simple enough to incite panic and revolution against mary (safely positioned on top of the world)
I mean if we think about it another way. Stella 1 or vegapunks og body has an antenna attached to it. So what if vegapunks original body only had a small part of his brain, enough to receive electrical signals to control the body.
18:04- seeing this, I'm thinking the One Piece World is actually a cage and much like in HXH, it's actually a small comparatively small patch of islands compared to the true vastness of the real planet, which is filled with even more dangerous creatures, elements, etc.
Amazing work JB I brained stormed and did some research after watching to fall in line with this theory. Could this be the reason Thriller Bark was created and is Tottoland one big continent? Tottoland is technically it is listed as an archipelago but BM doesn’t treat it like a series of islands like Saboady. Praline and Aladdin spent time u see water during the but all of the panels I seen were mysterious close so I couldn’t tell if the ocean floor was close enough to the surface so that it could be called an island. BM wants a big family and she has most races on Tottoland. It would be crazy if her actual dream is to become PK in order to fit everyone together on a continent. She could actually know about the sea levels and we don’t know why she wants to be PK. She does call it land and not islands.
When Lulusia Kingdom was destroyed we see how the displaced water affected not only the Grand Line but the four Blues as well (see chapter 1089) which means water does actually flow through the calm belt, just not near the surface level. So it is not just the Grand Line which is seeing an increase in sea levels. However my first thought when reading this chapter did have to do with Fairy Verth, aka the One Piece moon, in that it is has likely been getting pulled closer to the planet and is approaching the Roche Limit, the point at which a celestial body is torn apart by the gravitational forces of a larger celestial body. Not only would this explain the slow rise of sea levels, but could explain why this has suddenly become a huge worldwide problem since the debris created by the destroyed moon would be more than enough to submerge the majority of the world, especially if any pieces strike and collapse sections of the Red Line.
i think it would be good to revisit your Tequila Wolf theory. it's seems unlikely that the bridge was meant as a form of control if the world nobles always expected the world to flood. i was thinking maybe it's for some sort of mass migration but i guess that wouldn't explain why it's only in the east blue. just throwing out ideas.
My question now is, if the world is gonna drown, where's all this new water coming from? I know you state in the video the idea of the water coming from the blues, but that isn't necessarily world ending since the people in the blues would basically be unnafected, and I see now way of this process accelerating so fast it would be consider so bad that vegapunk would go so far as to make this the message, if the world is supposed to drown, A LOT more water would need to come out of kinda nowhere right?
I don't think theirs new water, think of an ice cube. When an ice cube drops into water the water rises, when it's removed the water lowers. If Imu destroying Lulucia did nothing but bore a hole into the sea than the water would lower, unless two things happened: 1. There is a reservoir of water underneath the sea floor (not likely since that would've made a knock up stream not a never ending hole) 2. The mass that was Lulucia Kingdom didn't evaporate but was transfered elsewhere and placed back into the sea What if the Mother Flame is a planet scale 3D Printer? Destroy an island from surface to below sea floor for material and build new land with that material. The Red Line is a manufactured landscaped that started production over 900 years ago, its construction caused the sea to rise. The Celestial Dragons are literally trying to build a new world on top the old one, as many civilizations in history have done.
Sea level raise is usually associated with moon closing distance with the Earth, so we can potentially bring up Enel to the story rather smoothly and logically
People disregard buggy and his df, but i think his awakened fruit ability is what made the redline. It could even be renamed as well because of how dangerous it is. If awakened, he could potentially deconstruct and reconstruct not only himself but the planet (or moons) as well. Even if it is just chopping, could be why the redline is the shape it is. He also seems to have full floaty control of what he "chops" (right now only just himself as far as he knows)
On May 5, 2000, the moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn converged in a patch of sky less than 25 degrees across, leading to still more tales that the gravitational muscle of the seemingly clustered bodies would potentially tear the Earth in two.
There's a small detail I've been noticing throughout the chapters after gear 5's reveal. Luffy seems to be expressing his nika-nika fruit more and more outside of gear 5. Instances like the previous chapter's buff look, after luffy eats the giant's ration. The giant's even comment on it, saying "wow your body's so expressive". I think as luffy continues to use gear 5 more, he's merging with nika faster and faster. First, it was arguably his personality becoming joyful and carefree before awakening. Then, after his awakening, with each use, his body becoming more malluable. I don't know if to feel more worried or excited at this.
What if vegapunk’s buy-in for making the mother flame was to address the flooding planet issue? Vegapunk is established to want to create to help people, others use things he makes in harmful ways, like the marines and pacifists. I think the flashbacks show he wanted them to be defenders and not really weapons although they are being used primarily as such. His drive to create the mother flame could have been for a neverending energy source or a form of heat energy that evaporates large amounts of water. We saw it used on land by someone who wanted to destroy a whole island, but maybe if it were used with lower energy output or in small bursts over the ocean it would simply evaporate water.
dude I could buy that the East and South Blues could be filling up due to the flow from Reverse Mountain cause it is essentially a giant bowl of rock (Red Line) (Tho not really because there stil is, as u said, the hole in the RL from Fishman Island) But that just the Grand Line is filling while the oceans around aren´t? No matter how calm the Calm Belts are they are still liquid. And if you pour water into the grand line it WILL redistribute through the Calm Belts and into the other Blues. So no. Calm Belts (unless something else is going on there) could not act as a damn I don´t think. Of course its Oda who we are talking about here so anything goes really. But its been shown that you can sail into the Clam Belt from either a Blue or from the Grand Line and there is no visible level difference between them. They are flush with each other
Also, the red line and the grand line doesn't need to have been created by the same faction, the red line might have been made by the kings of the world during the void century while the grand line was made by the ancient kingdom to protect Laughtale and create a "challenge" to find it. Another evidence of the sea level rising is Alabasta's river which doesn't have the strength to fully reach his estuary anymore, but that is a typical result of sea levels rising!
I read a spanish comment that seemed like a very interesting theory. It states that York was the last satellite, and she was created after Vegapunk recorded the message. Why, you ask? The coffee! Vegapunk was trying to drink coffee. With York, Stella didn’t need to eat, drink, or sleep, since she handled all of that. Good, and all, but why is that relevant? Simple. York is the transmitter of the message! Stella purposely created York without the ability to communicate to Punk Records. He fed her fake info like the triangle shaped transmitter, in case she turned a traitor. That’s why Stella and the rest of the Vegapunk didn’t know about her betrayal and why York didn’t know about the message or the transmission. He knew that the Gorosei won’t hurt York if she helped them, so where better place to hide the transmisor than their own noses? Perhaps Stella made York to betray him for the sole purpose of the government turning him into a martyr and give the message as a hero, and not as a government pawn. If that is not 10D chess, I don’t know what it is.
Sometimes we get a revelation in the story, and the community will have been sitting on a theory for so long that i dont even realize when we get theory confirmations 😅
Could you dig deeper into the world serpent ouroboros theory? When the serpent breaks the loop by letting go of its tail, then ragnarok will begin. Which is a world ending event that ultimately ends the reign of gods and floods the world with water. Ouroboros being the red line
I think the knock-up stream has always been important, especially in relation to Roger being too early. Maybe there's a way in as well as a way out. Dressrosa has also been on my mind, and maybe impel down. Where would someone end up if they fell down the holes in enies lobby or lulusia? If there are ancient weapons, would the blueprints be of a ship, or of just one part of a ship.
When Roger said they were too late. Maybe he reached a large highly elevated piece of land that could survive in case of a flood. The world hadn’t flooded yet. That one piece of land is real
I have a theory - what if sea stone has the property of absorbing sea water which would explain why sea stone works against devil fruit users because they have sea water in it, then it means that by destroying the island you destroy large amounts of sea stone, and by doing so you release the water trapped in it which makes sea level rise. So if the red line will be destroyed and sink and it is originally by some power raised from the sea (aka consisting of sea stone) it should soak water and reduce sea level. Also, it might be that sea water from sea stone over time escapes which means that the current red line is the cause for the gradual flood that Vegapunk is talking.
Vegapunk does consider the Mother Flame one of his great sins. It's part of his character inspiration, Albert Einstein, and his regret over contributing to the science behind the atom bomb.
One example of a theory being right is that one guy who correctly guessed that kanjuro was the traitor, i just cant remember who it was that said it lol
I genuinely feel betrayed that the most obvious twist villain was presented to me. And was there the whole time. Literally doing acts of cruelty whenever possible. Even forcing his drawn creations to be made inadequate and to struggle. And somehow I just got tricked into believing he was a good guy! I thought he was our friend! It was so obvious, so obvious I didn't even notice!
Impel Down is the safest place in One Piece right now
i was thinking if the gorosei are conected with each floor of impel, and all the damage they suffer go directly to the prisioneers.
make sense if IMU is the number 6 so the storngest prisioner take her dmg
Speaking of Impel Down, It was probably built before the flood
@@ADHDDistracts Maybe it used to be called impel up when it wasn't underwater 😂
And BB pirates... Aokiji can create an iceberg and they can live there
No way dude.. there are sky islands.. places where you don’t get tortured and are also safe from any flood.. impel down may be safe from a flood.. but it’s still hell on earth
OK so I think a couple things are curious...Crocus lives in a whale...Rayleigh has learned to coat ships so they can go underwater...Shanks has no devil fruit users...is the crew of Roger prepared for the world to sink?
Holy shit you’re right
@@DonatiVI It's everywhere on the internets
RIP Buggy 🤣
You did not think that. You took it from twitter
That’s fire
It's really wild how One Piece is both fully fantasy and fully science fiction at the same time and it still makes sense.
Whats the difference between fantasy and science fiction
@Ichhabdeinevorhaut Honestly, depending on the story, there could be no difference. It's mainly a vibes thing. When I think fantasy, I think Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, or Dracula. Things that don't care about giving some phony science jargon filled explanation about how they work. They just are, and you're expected to take it at face value.
In a series like Star Trek, everything is said to be the result of natural forces, it's all just really complicated science that we 21st century people couldn't possibly comprehend. But they'll say a bunch of tech jargon to make it sound plausible. Some science fiction will try even harder to sound realistic, like Interstellar or Primer (time travel movie).
Some things like Samurai Jack, Star Wars, Adventure Time and One Piece blur the lines because they have elements of each, and things like the force is simultaneously a mysterious magical property of the universe, and force-users can be explained because they have "high midoclorian counts" in their DNA or whatever. Samurai Jack has him fighting an ontologically evil demon with true magical powers, but he does so in a futuristic setting filled with robots, lasers, flying cars, and all other manner of advanced technology. His sword is magic, and the only weapon that can truly kill Aku, despite Jack having access to lasers and gattling guns. Adventure Time has a fantasy world that is slowly revealed to be the result of some bizarre nuclear war. It's filled with magic and things that are completely unexplainable by science, but all of that magic starts from scientifically informed warfare. One Piece has a lot of elements that don't seem explainable by science, like haki, which all living things have access to including animals, Zoro's Ashura technique, many other things. But also a lot of the technology and strange creatures we see are explainable by science. When you first see animal human hybrids like Monet in Punk Hazard, it seems like it's just fantasy. Then you find out that they're like that because of Law and Caesar. Monet was given those talons and wings. But even then, further back in the chain, is Law's devil fruit the result of science or fantasy magic? We can't say for certain yet. It's in a limbo space between science fiction and fantasy.
It's part vibes, part "how advanced does it seem to be", and part "how hard are they trying to make us believe this may one day be possible to make a reality.
It’s not and has never been fully fantasy. It’s been science fiction from the start. Most works that are even classified as fantasy are actually science fiction. There’s a reason you no longer have fantasy as a catagory when you go to buy stuff any more and it is scifi and science fantasy, which is really just scifi again.
I think this is why fishmen were oppressed. They feared fishmen.
bro i thought egghead would be a chill arc... like long ring long land....
Another piece of land experiencing intense water level rises? 😜
@eoghanclark165 yeah! i hadnt thought about it that way lol
We all thought my guy...nobody expected egghead to be possibly the best arc so far
You remember all those days of Joyboy's just WILD theories back in the years. Theories that most people wouldn't even come up with at that time, because they were so alian, so outlandish, but yet we still loved hearing them because it was interesting content and so fun to digest. Well here we are in the OP story were some of his theories are actually feeling like possibilties now. So for Joy_boy the reveal at the end of this CH must really hit close to home.
Idk man. Morj had one bad theory and I’ve never seen him in my recommended again. 😅 having crazy theories is alright I suppose. Until you’re influencing subsects of the fandom into false hopes. Then those avid followers of yours debate and argue down everyone else in your name (your being Morj this case)
This chapter was absolutely nuts and changes everything
RIP VegaChad, what a absolute legend
I guess Global Warning is real and Fishmen (Arlong and Hordy) be like works fine for us lol
We've had all these hints but never put two and two together
(1. There's a Noah's ark in Fishmen Island
2. The water level rising in Water 7
3. Wano's geography and them not wanting to open the borders
4. The Celestial Dragon living at the highest place and getting rid of the Lunarians)
I don't even think this is exactly the big reveal. I feel like its the wind up before the biggun.
@@Moe_Posting_Chadi hope so !
I’ve heard so many theories about the world of one piece being sunk by water that in my brain i just accepted it as if it were real
I remember a few years back, Joyboy Therory's made a prediction that the water levels are rising.
Your art has truly inspired me to start drawing myself!
This cannot be the end of Vegapunks message because then what was the use for the visual den den mushi right! This is just the beginning!
I love the idea of Oda exploring consciousness
The levels of theoretical genius is OUT OF THIS ONE PIECE WORLD!!!
I've been waiting for your review ever since the spoilers came out
Lessssgooooooo
I heard an interesting theory that Dragon has the broadcast Den Den Mushi. That's why Shaka was talking to him
that's my theory!
@JoyBoyTheories lol, dont remember where I heard it first, but ABD mentioned it in their last video, too. But don't worry JB, you're in my Top 3 fav OP youtubers.
I think the Man who Vegapunk wanted not to be judged was Kizaru.
The Straw Hats will be blamed. Masterful writing. Two birbs one plot device.
Nah vegapunk basically told people to not believe the media cause he knows the wg gonna frame his death on somebody else just like how they did with cobra to make the revos look evil
@@Moe_Posting_Chad unless Vegapunk continues to elaborate, but as of right now, it does sort of fulfill catharsis for Kizaru, provides forgiveness for the strawhats, and makes us question if Imu is evil as readers. It really is so good, you're not wrong.
@@piplupz1586 I hadn't even thought about the Imu angle! How does this manga just keep doing it!?
Goda for a reason@@Moe_Posting_Chad
Theres a little detail in the anime, where vegapunk looks like he transported from somwhere before he got stuck in the ancient robot, what if vegapunk transported to Kambakka kingdom to speak to dragon about the world governments plan to kill him, so he set a master plan in motion with dragon.
That’s what joy boy theories predicted
Yeah thats nice but i dont think dragon would just send vegapunk to die like that..
12:20 I'd like to compare him more to Oppenheimer maybe than einstein, a guy who made devastating weapons that were used take and ruin many lives, and maybe thats what he feels are his sins, and that maybe he deserves death for it.
One Piece just got deeper than I ever thought, my mind is frying over what else Vegapunk will say.
This reveal is PERFECT by Vegapunk. While many in the OP fandom were hoping for a huge lore drop like the name of the Ancient Kingdom, we got the most efficient and useful piece of information up front. I kept wondering for months now what Vegapunk could say that would truly shock and actually impact the people within the story. Telling them that they are all about to be swallowed (pause) up by the sea is THAT thing. Oda may yet drop a bombshell, but leading with this was necessary.
What a lot of people don’t understand is that theorizing, speculating and guessing as to what is going to happen for this story is the same as the pirates going for the One Piece in One Piece.
The fun isn’t just finding out everything of what is to be or not to be, but the journey itself. It’s okay to be right and that is the greatest just like how it’s okay to be wrong and everyone calls you out on that, it’s all okay.
I love listening to every new video you put out and all the videos the other One Piece TH-camrs put out there, it’s made me enjoy One Piece way more than just watching the anime and reading the manga by themselves. Keep on creating and theorizing until we reach Laugh Tale or even beyond Laugh Tale at journey’s end. You and every other creator are the life of One Piece ♥️
Is the One piece a book full of theorycrafting featuring the 10 best youtube theories about what the one piece is? 😂😂
Vegapunks not sharing 100% of the information explains why Stella was able to keep Bonney being at the top of the pacifista chain of command a secret.
UncPunk never reveals all of the cards in his hand. Quite the shrewd geezer
Its wild the sheer amount of foreshadowing breadcrumbs for this reveal that has been staring us in the face from the very early stages of this story. Even something as simple as Buggy holding it to be so important that he was a good swimmer.
regarding what you said at the very begining about theorists hate. I honestly don't care about anyone being right or wrong. To me this kind of content is just to get the conversation going about one thing we love and have in common: One Piece. And you are doing well at that
3 things
1. I've always assumed that the grandline runs into reverse mountain and then flows up its inside to form the directional current at the top of the geyser. Would love if that ended up being true.
2. This video made me realize how much i love your analysis and how well it interfaces with my perception of reality. It makes me think of /remember so many fun ideas. Your channel is such a vibe.
3. No joke what would it cost me to have you try to analyze Jujutsu Kaisen like you do one piece?
Jb is my favorite op youtuber, doesnt take his theory as fact, giving good vibes, and great art, what else could you ask for
Mine goes 1st joyboy, 2nd sawyer, 3rd randy Troy
@@G3G117for me it's borko, then ceerious followed by cineranter.
I think that vegapunk's two sins is that he
1. Researched the Void Century
2. Put Bonney at the top of the Pacifista authority command hierachy
Both actions are pretty much vegapunk commiting treason against the World Government, he knew these actions would cost him his life but his curiosity and morality got the best of him
14:11 this is a double entendre from vegapunk as hes referring to his future killer which is both Kizaru(his actual killer) and Luffy(via WG Propaganda) but vegapunk unknowningly countered the lies agaisnt luffy so that the world doesnt judge luffy for "killing" vegapunk
I 💯% agree with your all blue theory and that this chapter is scary for now alot of pieces are falling in places and we can surmize that the one piece to some extent is a countermeasure or fix for the great flood
Concerning Vegapunk's speech, I red it as he was talking about Luffy, not Imu, as the public would think it's Luffy who killed him, due to the hostage situation
I dont think vegapunk knew that he would be held "hostage" by Luffy at the time of the recording
He seemed to believe he would be "executed" so it has to be the world government, right?
I assumed he meant kizaru because he knew whoever dealt the blow would’ve just been following orders
Yea, felt like a sign from Oda saying "Kizaru is a good guy, don't judge him too harshly"
@@JoyBoyTheoriesI think oda knew luffy would be here but Vega punk didn’t, I also wonder if imu controls the calm belt and the waters of the world it’s probably why the sea kings inhabit the calm belt
@@JoyBoyTheories I think it's the Marines more specifically, he knew the WG would execute him but he knew they'd likely use Marines and we know Vegapunk's opinion about the nature of the individuals in the organization.
Foreshadowed 10 years ago wow 😮
Now i understand what the meme big brain time means
I think the calm belt doesn't act as a dam or there would be a noticeable height difference at the edge of it or at least a slope. Vegapunk said the whole world will flood not just the grand line, i think he choose his words wisely. Imu's weapon raised the water levels across the world grand line included (unless i remember it wrong) the reason for this might be a lot more crazy that i can come up with right now. Just throwing in my 2 cents. I am very excited for the incoming reveals, and great video as always JB.
No, I dont think so.
Water molecules "stick" to each other, and without currents you wouldnt be able to notice that you are oriented differently. If you use wano as an example, water levels have risen maybe 20-30 feet, so you wouldnt feel that even if you are technically going down hill
@@JoyBoyTheories Wow that's some mind-blowing stuff right there, should have known u already looked into the science behind it.
Guys i think that "vegapunk's Coffee" is a paralel to bink's sake.
Ultra giga swelling huge throbbing in a vat big brain!
Waiting for this video ahhhhhhhhhh need to talk about this with people
Perhaps the red line will be sent to space ( clues include the CD space suits, Enel returning, lunarians being from the red line) and in that void the water will recede saving the earth
The water level foreshadowing blew my mind :o
Goda
You know what would be the most Gigachad move by Stella? The Den Den Mushi could be inside York.
I had this thought reading the chapter. Would be absolute kino
That's not all that needs to get inside of mommy York!
The den den mushi is in original Kuma (? Or maybe in mother flame
VP saying “he doesn’t know much about him” he’s talking about whoever killed him.
And he basically says "the government will kill me", which is what he thought at the very start of the arc when CP0 arrived, and a reality when he began researching the poneglyphs
The leader of the WG is the Gorosei, but vegapunk says "him" singular, meaning he could know about Imu
A lone brain cannot see, cannot touch, and cannot speak. And yet it still lives, it still thinks, unbound from such sensory inputs.
Aqua Lagoona could be the reflection of water off of the red line. Perhaps the shape of the red line is such that when all the water coming in from reverse mountain bounces off of it, the waves overlap into a massive rouge that hits water 7. Perhaps this was intentional as a punishment or challenge to the island of ship builders.
This comment was made before watching any of this video. The more I think about it the Kingdom of One Piece is likely the entire world. A kingdom that spanned most or all of the continent of like Pangaea. Water has been raising for some time now? Likely part of a weapon or attack used during the void century etc. Mother flame... Now I admit a lot I don't understand but I think the village or city at the bottom of Wano is one of the ultimate hints. In a way this is like Zelda: Windwaker perhaps in the end we will drain a lot of this water? But I also really like the All Blue Red Line being destoryed theory as well. Perhaps both are somehow combined. But how would destroying the red line though reduce the water levels? Or would it? Maybe the raising of the waters is impossible to avoid? But I don't want this story to end in a water world type outcome. So got to be some way to fix, or reverse the issue. If it's caused by a weapon or something that is easy to stop. But can it be reversed? I'm just putting thoughts out there this is not a theory it's just I can't help but think about it.
we are all with you lmao
Doesn’t matter if you’re wrong or right, we/I appreciate the content 💯
Vegapunk may be my favourite One Piece theorist.. even if he sometimes gets stuck on Sciences that feel artificially restricted ideologically… almost like a commentary on similar figures…
I love that it’s basically a fusion of Tesla with Einstein looks and the Newtonian Headwear tech… all in this culmination of 21st century scientific conversations with Electrical Sciences somewhat removed as they’re only seen in some vague studies of lightning maybe? Though there are powered things… I do wonder what the deal is with another Flame Power Source is it Ímū or Níkà clone stuff and however many clones of Just King… which is sad… but I bet it’s something like that… I think most of this science is not humane by anything but world government standards… Lunarian warlord clones using other peoples’ Devilfruits & having Kízárū laser blasters like an improvement of Dr Gero’s work almost…
I bet there will be way more than 2 sins listed as things he did for the government but he messed up by being kind to the victims so he can apologise for not making the lulusia deletion operation get everyone from there, and that they needed to be rude to Cipher Pols whilst they return the clone of a kidnapped father whose gorosei poisoned daughter has been used as leverage to force him to submit to having his life and soul overwritten, which I simply couldn’t allow so i programmed all of her Father’s clones to protect their daughter so that even his deceased form didn’t have the issues of Acting in its own will..
Maybe black beard takes a body and forces Moria to use whatever powers to hijack some people which they then learn to control with shadow and mirrors and pawpawed intangible psyche pieces from combinations of kuma and pudding….
I wonder if Zeus is really all that remains of the Largest of Mothers, her child soul that I guess is Kinda the innocent bit of the lady that ate the Cipher Pols Orphan Dealer to Häjrūdín’s shock… not at the lady being evil but just the little girl Eating people like a Proper Buccaneer sized girl… maybe lap got round more than we thought like if they’re a lunarian Figarland (but hm the hair colour isn’t a Movie design for popular music stuff but they make more of the lineage aspect… I wonder how many slaves are just descendants of perfect clones made hundreds of years earlier to replicate stuff but incorrectly and then the strong hákí occasionally naturally make it to a Body with will of : D, and they don’t fully know their complete copied abilities but you know the numerous characters that have abilities and hákí and other lineage factor alterations from nature and reincarnation OR that and Eating the right Fruit… I mean who says luffy didn’t eat the Devilfruit made from a Roger seraphim created by whatever came before MADS…. I wonder if it’s Mutually Assured Destruction Science or something so that they Can and Might destroy themselves and eachother or shock eachother most once Caesar & judge hear what Vegapunk really has to say…
I hope he lists crimes as non criminal important work for the world government in a way that sounds So Mentall Ill that people just feel like “how did such a genius get used to such extreme levels of Evil !? Did No One See This?!” Of course Dragon was busy looking East as Many have been pointing out … would they transmit from East Bkue?! Hehe most of us thinking Ohara and/or Kámàbákkâ Queendom but I’d LOVE if it was made of Holographic Lùlūsíà… but does mother flame need to be there or is it actually secret Tesla energy that I probably can’t easily talk about without people being prevented from seeing it even now?! : D (“FtWG!”)
Still good I removed having said too much cause of medical cia-TD but of course I’d be spilling subconscious all over the place… they’ve gotten me but knowing how they’ve gotten you is how you rise above media lies about political theatre casually costing thousands of folks in their processes… but breaking hippocrsttic oath for world government is almost like Deleting a whole country so hard that the sea levels rise… aww wait I forgot which world governments I was talking about at which moments… do excuse : D
But lovin the energy for this one man… got me thinking too heavy on the arc again with the new intel…
Still think it’s a tactical mislead to force people to prep around a meter of water every however long as more islands get erased… I wonder if it’s actually void century Poseidon that took another ancient weapon’s body and I dunno some devil fruit shenanigans where they play with the Eve tree to sprout admirals rewritten and stuff that’ll make a Níkà-Dancin’ Kízàrū kill a close associate whilst continuously sounding sad about it like he’d had that part of his brain function altered so his true feelings can’t interfere with a mission…
Imagine if it’s really not a past message but actual live brain attached to mother flame which might’ve been moved or teleported elsewhere…. I wonder if they can mess with the fruit powers to crazier levels with living Kūmà….
Wonder if sentomaru isn’t something wilder like a MADS Garp of xebec clone…. Or even a fat Lūffy with the Devilfruit…. Man is everything perfect to speculate so many directions about innumerable plot points…
The Goda is with us!
JoyBoy’s drums continue to sound and it’s always nice to hear some yohohoho… : D
This’ll be great 2 weeks for theories!
Maybe I’ll ramble some of those theories out in pieces that don’t endanger anything ha (FtWG about most things)
Maybe he should apologise for not letting Lūffy the Sun God the murdered Buccaneer Peoples awaited as slaves to liberate them was so overwhelmed by fighting busted call Admiral Kízárū & all the five elders to protect him and Bonney & even sentomaru from Cipher Pols Assassin Squads… with pictures cutting in because Brain Vegapunk is interrupting orignal mesage with updates and starts announcing return of Sun god and fighting the devils that took his soul and his friend’s and his wife forced to produce Bonney for genetic experiments….
So many ways of phrasing things to completely recontextualise everything so people Reallg know what he needs them to…
But maybe he doesn’t reveal which things are the sins he managed to be complicit in…
Next chapter should probably feel like a slap in the face wake-up or something… but I expect to have my expectations m subverted like classic Oda tactics! Bless the man for his works here, Aye?
Love this story…
Not related at all but the 4 road poneglyphs might not be 4 separate locations but rather reference to a 4D location:
-1: longitude
-2: latitude
-3: altitude
-4: Time
7:00 so true, in here (the internet) we are not only connected to each other around the world but with many people who only exist now as an immortal, immutable version of their past selves that echoes in the present and an example of this is Nirvana, Kurt has ceased to exist since the early 90's yet he is here in interviews, gainning over a billion views in a song he played before this plataform was even conceived (smell like teen spirit video) and touching, inspiring contless new generations of angsty teens all over again as if he was here, present to do so
I’m interested in when Mars said “is your consciousness even stored here” where else would it be stored
My head cannon is that the Ancient Kingdom was the Kingdom of Pangaea. All of the different races lived in one continent under the Sun God. Imu and the boys nuked the continent into oblivion, forcing it all the way to the bottom of the sea floor where Enie’s Lobby is. The results in the fishmen going to the bottom of the ocean and the minks fleeing on the back of baby Zunisha. Not sure where the robot fits in yet, but I think Imu decided to go the whole “pave paradise and put up a parking lot” method and then flexed and built Panagea Castle to fuck with Nika, but also maybe I took too many edibles.!
There is something about imagining imu and " the boys" nuking an entire kingdom just to fuck with this nika guy thats so damn funny lmaoo😂😂
@@aritrasaha441 lmao 😂
Thanks!
your welcome!!
I didn't dare to think about the matter this far. But I can't deny that I had similar thoughts. I don't want to spoil myself of this story that I enjoy.
Man the thumbnail sent me I thought we were getting a live reaction 😭😭😭
What's also noteworthy about Fishman Island is that not only does there being an Ark tell us that a flooded world will happen but Poseidon's weapon (sea kings) are mostly just useful in an aquatic setting.
at 13:40 I feel like it was more a message to the world knowing that the world government would twist the events that occur and pin it on the straw hats
the moon that Bege encountered could be seen as prepping for bad times ahead
Makes sense for the broadcast to be connected to punk records directly.
So, stopping the broadcast means losing his knowledge of making stuff.
The fishmen are jumping for joy right now. "It's lit!" - Hordey Jones and Arlong 😂
Not only do we get some of the best OP theories from JB but we get history and science lessons and I’m here for it! I had no idea we were still in a literal ice age! This was so dope! I sometimes feel like Oda is low key a conspiracy theorist and just wants to put all his ideas about the real world into his story! I love it and I love how deep you dive into it! Appreciate you and happy to become a member and support the tin foil agendas! 😁
Yeah we are in what is known as an "interglacial period" of an ice age.
I like how you make me thrilled and pissed/cringe
at times. Keep doing what you do bro its fun to listen to.
The Wano evidence blew my mind
The craziest one for me was the Jaya house
I been thinking if the lunarians lived up in marigeoise before the tenryubitou then they must've created the red line not the tenryubitou
Jp is one of the best OP content creator. He is so kind, willing to have a discussion and he is right a lot of the time even tho he's humble. dude is an Og and a GOAT!!
awesome to see the time lapse illustration, as a designer I love to see the artist's creative process
Vega punk awakening and how sanji lit v head on fire was crazy this chapter was really epic
Hmm-- if the waters of the grand line were like 30'+ higher than the waters of the blues then wouldn't that be super noticeable to anyone who approached the Calm Belts.
But we have known several characters who have crossed the calm belt-- Amazon Lily is even in the calm belt, and none of them noted either that the calm belts appear to be gigantic walls of water held mystically in place nor that trying to get into the Grandline from the Calm belt is somehow like sailing uphill and leaving the Grandline through the Calm Belt is like sailing downhill.
water molecules stick to each other, so you'd have to imagine a sort of sloping water level, and the water of the calm belt is rising as well, just extremely slowly
As far as sailing up or down it can be an illusion. Because there are no currents. You wouldnt know how you were oriented
Yes this is what I was thinking, the calm belts rise accordingly with all the waters of the OP world. There was never a claim that the calm belts are some sort of barrier, just water without currents that sea kings, special Marine ships with sea stone hulls and Rayleigh lol seem to navigate without an issue. When Lulusia was destroyed, water levels were reported to have risen all over the planet not just the grand line to create the bulge of water as was mentioned in the video. I think the water is coming from an inner ocean that is being tapped into when the knock up stream is activated. Idk what it may be but it sure is fun to guess!
Before listening I want to say when the chapter ended I thought hmm so is this like the beginning of us going to space since the world sinking?
14:30 I think the 'him is more accurately to refer to Kizaru rather than Imu. Knowing their relationship and surely Vega knew the conflict there of Kizaru being a 'corporate slave'
Also my hot take is that was vegas entire message. Just simple enough to incite panic and revolution against mary (safely positioned on top of the world)
I mean if we think about it another way. Stella 1 or vegapunks og body has an antenna attached to it. So what if vegapunks original body only had a small part of his brain, enough to receive electrical signals to control the body.
18:04- seeing this, I'm thinking the One Piece World is actually a cage and much like in HXH, it's actually a small comparatively small patch of islands compared to the true vastness of the real planet, which is filled with even more dangerous creatures, elements, etc.
Amazing work JB
I brained stormed and did some research after watching to fall in line with this theory.
Could this be the reason Thriller Bark was created and is Tottoland one big continent? Tottoland is technically it is listed as an archipelago but BM doesn’t treat it like a series of islands like Saboady. Praline and Aladdin spent time u see water during the but all of the panels I seen were mysterious close so I couldn’t tell if the ocean floor was close enough to the surface so that it could be called an island.
BM wants a big family and she has most races on Tottoland. It would be crazy if her actual dream is to become PK in order to fit everyone together on a continent. She could actually know about the sea levels and we don’t know why she wants to be PK. She does call it land and not islands.
love the thought!!! A once huge island is now an archepelago!
When Lulusia Kingdom was destroyed we see how the displaced water affected not only the Grand Line but the four Blues as well (see chapter 1089) which means water does actually flow through the calm belt, just not near the surface level. So it is not just the Grand Line which is seeing an increase in sea levels. However my first thought when reading this chapter did have to do with Fairy Verth, aka the One Piece moon, in that it is has likely been getting pulled closer to the planet and is approaching the Roche Limit, the point at which a celestial body is torn apart by the gravitational forces of a larger celestial body. Not only would this explain the slow rise of sea levels, but could explain why this has suddenly become a huge worldwide problem since the debris created by the destroyed moon would be more than enough to submerge the majority of the world, especially if any pieces strike and collapse sections of the Red Line.
its been many years since i remember hearing it. the sea kings in the calm belt is what causes the water currents to not exist.
Flashback to one of JBs theories about how the grand line was being flooded over time 😭😭 the biggest W fr!!!
i think it would be good to revisit your Tequila Wolf theory. it's seems unlikely that the bridge was meant as a form of control if the world nobles always expected the world to flood. i was thinking maybe it's for some sort of mass migration but i guess that wouldn't explain why it's only in the east blue. just throwing out ideas.
My question now is, if the world is gonna drown, where's all this new water coming from? I know you state in the video the idea of the water coming from the blues, but that isn't necessarily world ending since the people in the blues would basically be unnafected, and I see now way of this process accelerating so fast it would be consider so bad that vegapunk would go so far as to make this the message, if the world is supposed to drown, A LOT more water would need to come out of kinda nowhere right?
I don't think theirs new water, think of an ice cube. When an ice cube drops into water the water rises, when it's removed the water lowers.
If Imu destroying Lulucia did nothing but bore a hole into the sea than the water would lower, unless two things happened:
1. There is a reservoir of water underneath the sea floor (not likely since that would've made a knock up stream not a never ending hole)
2. The mass that was Lulucia Kingdom didn't evaporate but was transfered elsewhere and placed back into the sea
What if the Mother Flame is a planet scale 3D Printer? Destroy an island from surface to below sea floor for material and build new land with that material. The Red Line is a manufactured landscaped that started production over 900 years ago, its construction caused the sea to rise. The Celestial Dragons are literally trying to build a new world on top the old one, as many civilizations in history have done.
I think he meant to talk about luffy during his speech
Sea level raise is usually associated with moon closing distance with the Earth, so we can potentially bring up Enel to the story rather smoothly and logically
Idk about a hole through the entire earth, that would legitimately destroy the planet..but yeah you got some good ideas here
I came to your channel looking for that theory about the dam in Enies Lobby since you called this ages ago
Also dont forget that when Imu destroyed Lulucia that the hole made didnt make the sea level sink but rise ! Which is weird.
imagine the whole world going to the top of grand line
My initial thought was that with the fall of the red line, the displacement of water would cause the flooding. Great video!
People disregard buggy and his df, but i think his awakened fruit ability is what made the redline. It could even be renamed as well because of how dangerous it is. If awakened, he could potentially deconstruct and reconstruct not only himself but the planet (or moons) as well. Even if it is just chopping, could be why the redline is the shape it is. He also seems to have full floaty control of what he "chops" (right now only just himself as far as he knows)
I'm so early to this video, let's go
On May 5, 2000, the moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn converged in a patch of sky less than 25 degrees across, leading to still more tales that the gravitational muscle of the seemingly clustered bodies would potentially tear the Earth in two.
I swear the back ground music is the same from the mobile game “hawk” it’s a plane shooter type game
There's a small detail I've been noticing throughout the chapters after gear 5's reveal. Luffy seems to be expressing his nika-nika fruit more and more outside of gear 5. Instances like the previous chapter's buff look, after luffy eats the giant's ration. The giant's even comment on it, saying "wow your body's so expressive". I think as luffy continues to use gear 5 more, he's merging with nika faster and faster. First, it was arguably his personality becoming joyful and carefree before awakening. Then, after his awakening, with each use, his body becoming more malluable. I don't know if to feel more worried or excited at this.
We need theories JoyBoy!!!!! This is peak stuff right here. It's the mystery that keeps us going
when the word insane is written in capital letters in the title you know it is a one in a lifetime video
What if vegapunk’s buy-in for making the mother flame was to address the flooding planet issue?
Vegapunk is established to want to create to help people, others use things he makes in harmful ways, like the marines and pacifists. I think the flashbacks show he wanted them to be defenders and not really weapons although they are being used primarily as such.
His drive to create the mother flame could have been for a neverending energy source or a form of heat energy that evaporates large amounts of water.
We saw it used on land by someone who wanted to destroy a whole island, but maybe if it were used with lower energy output or in small bursts over the ocean it would simply evaporate water.
dude I could buy that the East and South Blues could be filling up due to the flow from Reverse Mountain cause it is essentially a giant bowl of rock (Red Line) (Tho not really because there stil is, as u said, the hole in the RL from Fishman Island)
But that just the Grand Line is filling while the oceans around aren´t?
No matter how calm the Calm Belts are they are still liquid. And if you pour water into the grand line it WILL redistribute through the Calm Belts and into the other Blues.
So no. Calm Belts (unless something else is going on there) could not act as a damn I don´t think.
Of course its Oda who we are talking about here so anything goes really. But its been shown that you can sail into the Clam Belt from either a Blue or from the Grand Line and there is no visible level difference between them. They are flush with each other
Haven’t put much thought into it but I wonder if joy boy was the one that created the world the way it is
Also, the red line and the grand line doesn't need to have been created by the same faction, the red line might have been made by the kings of the world during the void century while the grand line was made by the ancient kingdom to protect Laughtale and create a "challenge" to find it.
Another evidence of the sea level rising is Alabasta's river which doesn't have the strength to fully reach his estuary anymore, but that is a typical result of sea levels rising!
Check out the physical function of a "trompe" for the nock up stream
I read a spanish comment that seemed like a very interesting theory. It states that York was the last satellite, and she was created after Vegapunk recorded the message. Why, you ask? The coffee! Vegapunk was trying to drink coffee. With York, Stella didn’t need to eat, drink, or sleep, since she handled all of that. Good, and all, but why is that relevant? Simple. York is the transmitter of the message!
Stella purposely created York without the ability to communicate to Punk Records. He fed her fake info like the triangle shaped transmitter, in case she turned a traitor. That’s why Stella and the rest of the Vegapunk didn’t know about her betrayal and why York didn’t know about the message or the transmission. He knew that the Gorosei won’t hurt York if she helped them, so where better place to hide the transmisor than their own noses? Perhaps Stella made York to betray him for the sole purpose of the government turning him into a martyr and give the message as a hero, and not as a government pawn. If that is not 10D chess, I don’t know what it is.
Zou also floods when Zunisha bathes I could've been foreshadowing for the minks home flooding.
Sometimes we get a revelation in the story, and the community will have been sitting on a theory for so long that i dont even realize when we get theory confirmations 😅
Could you dig deeper into the world serpent ouroboros theory? When the serpent breaks the loop by letting go of its tail, then ragnarok will begin. Which is a world ending event that ultimately ends the reign of gods and floods the world with water. Ouroboros being the red line
I think the knock-up stream has always been important, especially in relation to Roger being too early. Maybe there's a way in as well as a way out. Dressrosa has also been on my mind, and maybe impel down. Where would someone end up if they fell down the holes in enies lobby or lulusia? If there are ancient weapons, would the blueprints be of a ship, or of just one part of a ship.
Crazy how we at one point thought that the ark was for the fishmen, however as the time passes, it seems likely it was for those living on land.
Bless you for saying the truth about being in the Ice Age in our world
When Roger said they were too late. Maybe he reached a large highly elevated piece of land that could survive in case of a flood. The world hadn’t flooded yet. That one piece of land is real
Too early.
I have a theory - what if sea stone has the property of absorbing sea water which would explain why sea stone works against devil fruit users because they have sea water in it, then it means that by destroying the island you destroy large amounts of sea stone, and by doing so you release the water trapped in it which makes sea level rise. So if the red line will be destroyed and sink and it is originally by some power raised from the sea (aka consisting of sea stone) it should soak water and reduce sea level. Also, it might be that sea water from sea stone over time escapes which means that the current red line is the cause for the gradual flood that Vegapunk is talking.
“vegapunk oiled up?”😂😂
Vegapunk does consider the Mother Flame one of his great sins. It's part of his character inspiration, Albert Einstein, and his regret over contributing to the science behind the atom bomb.
One example of a theory being right is that one guy who correctly guessed that kanjuro was the traitor, i just cant remember who it was that said it lol
I genuinely feel betrayed that the most obvious twist villain was presented to me. And was there the whole time. Literally doing acts of cruelty whenever possible. Even forcing his drawn creations to be made inadequate and to struggle.
And somehow I just got tricked into believing he was a good guy! I thought he was our friend! It was so obvious, so obvious I didn't even notice!