Got the compass over the outback as I mainly do sea fishing (offshore) and the compass cuts through the swell and chop more efficiently. Both are great kayaks and great to fish out of.
He stated the outback was wider lol. Pretty sure they’re both 34” the outback is longer, it’s basically same kayak with more upgrades done to it for more fishing related. Not to say throwing some rod holders or h rails on the compass won’t get you similar results for almost half the price. I think the compass is more stable due to hull design.
My first time Kayaking and this Kayak held strong. th-cam.com/users/postUgkx4k5UrhC3v_Y4hIEaXLGvHcN5a5aBmZNB The water got pretty rough as a speed boat zipped by me, and the Kayak withstood it (I expected to be capsized). The Ores are very easy to put together, the pump worked beautifully. the seats are a bit hard to sit in after a while (I recommend sitting on the floor). after reading the reviews I was very scared it'd get a hole in it, the material is very strong and durable. The Air valve may need a small Phillips head screwdriver to adjust, other than that, it's well worth the money!(update)I've gone Kayaking in 3 Lakes and 2 rivers totaling about 40 miles. the kayak had two holes and they patched easily and no other problems can't wait for kayaking season this year!
Thanks, great comparison video. I have owned an Outback for 12 years (an older model). I've mostly been happy with it. except I'm not so you and fit anymore and I've since had a major back injury. and I'm really starting to feel the weight, I car top mine and it's just getting too heavy. Also, I've downgraded to a little sedan now and it's gotten damaged unloading off the vehicle. I think pretty soon I'll be looking at a lighter Hobie and I like the look of that compass or possibly the revolution. It would be so great to head out fishing for the day without all the strain and hassle.
Great comparison! This really gives folks some terrific details to help anyone just starting with a Hobie to make an informed choice. I started out with an Outback (it was the demo version so was almost the same price as the then-new Compass), and as a bass fisherman, I did love it! Then I upgraded to the newer Outback just for the gear setup you outlined. Then the next year I upgraded to the Pro Angler 12 360, and I just bought a Pro Angler 14 360!! The weight on the PAs is a BIG consideration for us older guys (I'm 70), so I did get a Dynamic Dolly and just bought a trailer. The Outback is pretty stable, but the PAs are tops! But I'm sure the Outback is better in that faster water, especially for paddling -- and I know from experience paddling the PA 12 is NOT that easy! It's just so wide. Keep up the geat work and keep folks informed! Roger, The Smiling BassHole
@@thebeardedpaddler I do love stability! I had an issue with the drive and couldn't use my PA 12 during the end of last fishing season. So my fishing buddy, who had bought my Outback, loaned it back to me so I could keep fishing. I was AMAZED at how much lighter it was and easier to haul around! I even considered getting an Outback but as I'm a "big boy," the larger PA makes me more comfortable on the water. Keep the great videos coming!
I have the Hobie 10.6 Passport (the blue one), it is light and able to carry with one hand. good for rivers and lakes. carry on your car or truck, no need for trailer. simple for fishing
I have a 2019 outback. Been on the Pacific Ocean with big swells to Lake Superior with 26mph wind. It did very well on open water. Granted i did upgrade my rudder to a 2016 PA to handle high current and fast wind but is a must just because the stock 2019 outback rudder is just too small and flimsy.
Thanks. I need the versatility to run in shallows and rivers under paddle power. Also, easy loading is key. The added stability of the Outback looks great, but I think I need the versatility and light weight of the Compass.
When the time comes to finally upgrade to pedal, ill be going the used market route. Have my eyes set on the compass or revolution 13. Mostly looking for a car topper i can use for trolling salmon, trout, and walleye in the great lakes
Mayhe you could guide me a right direction here. I am split weather to get a compass or an outback. I fish rivers and do not use a ton of equipment but want some room for tackle and rods. Your points lead me to the compass but the outback looks like it is built a bit better.
Good video; was wondering which would be better in south louisiana bayou and canals for some freshwater fishing then take it inshore fishing when needed.
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I have a 2018 Compass I bought new before the Outback got it's current layout. One of the things I don't like about the Outback is the top of the side rails are very busy. It seems like the designers went out of their way to occupy every square inch of the surface. Fine of it suits the way you fish, not so much of it doesn't. The cockpit on the Compass is more of a blank slate that you can really customize and make it your own. I wish the Compass had the guardian transducer and an upgraded seat. Then it would be perfect.
This is a great video thank you. It’s hard for me to figure out which is best for me. I am probably 60/40 split on fishing and just hanging out. I really like that compass but also the passport r not sure which is better
Compass has som more features and weight to it. The Passport is more of a light duty pleasure craft that you can obviously still fish from. Go 12ft if looking at the Passport
Good comparison. I am picking up a Hobie Mirage Lynx next week. I have found that these other boats are too heavy for me to go solo without getting some sort of lifting device to put it on the truck. (Back issues). You lose some features in favour of light weight, but I think it’ll be good.
Lynx is a phenomenal kayak choice! Its been so popular here I no longer have them in stock! I mounted a fish finder to one for a customer and he pulls some monsters out of the lake with it! Thank you for watching!
@@jonwall4994 It could make loud farting noises and I would still love it! The light weight and ease of tossing it up on my rack just makes it ideal for me! What did you replace your Lynx with?
They are heavy indeed. But the Lynx is not exactly a kayak. But it’s lightweight. But you get very wet…but….😂😂🤣 You get the picture. That’s why I own both an Outback AND a Lynx.
Awesome detailed comparison and review. Looking to purchase a lighter weight Hobie kayak. Would you be able to do a compass and passport 12 R comparison? Thank you.
Cool walkthrough, thanks! I have a Compass on order and am excited to pick it up later this month. I’m having the outfitter move the circular hatch to the front and installing the longer storage hatch in front of the seat. Recently I heard that there may not be enough room for it, and the only option is the wider hatch that runs left and right. Have you run into this issue?
We have done the upgrade several times. Hobie used to make a shallower tub that fit the horizontal hatch but can't seem to get it with Hobie anymore. The V hull hits the sides of the tub bottom. May be other options now though
Hallo! I am from germany and because your store looks so big i want you to ask you questions: I am 6.7 ,= 2 Meter tall an my body weight is 125kg Witch hobie kajak would fit me? I want to go kajaking on calm rivers Mosel und Lahn,close to Koblenz, and a lake where the water is usual calm. Maybe a tandem is an option!?. But it depends on, that i have engouh space in it. Thank you for taking time to answer my questions. A big hallo from germany
I'm 6'5 and have no issues whatsoever. I do not have to use the tallest setting on the adjustable drive. I would suggest the Pro Angler or the Outback due to the adjustable seat hight of the Outback and the high seat of the Pro Angler. This will give you a much more comfortable seating position. Thank you for watching!
@@thebeardedpaddler If I could only have one kayak, it would be the Compass. Luckily I don’t have to make that choice and that’s why I own both an Outback and a Lynx.
It cam be, yes. I would definitely check out the Hobie Revolution 11 and 13 foot models for that. Very slender profile and very fast. Thanks for watching!
Valid question. It allows you to troll along the side and also easier access to reach forward. Also may eliminate the need to carry a large rod and tackle management system with you. Thanks for watching!
The 12R will be for someone covering a lot more ground and maybe more open water. Longer kayaks track better and also able to carry more gear in the larger storage areas. 10.5 will be more maneuverable and the 12 will be faster in straight line with less steering needed
Definitely a dealer issue. This has been my biggest issue with warranty claims. Most of the warranty issues seem to be due to REALLY poor paddleshop service. Have you been to visit your dealer in person? I would really hold their feet to the fire as its their job.
Got the compass over the outback as I mainly do sea fishing (offshore) and the compass cuts through the swell and chop more efficiently. Both are great kayaks and great to fish out of.
Very true. Compass is also a better paddle craft as well. You will enjoy! Thanks for watching!
He stated the outback was wider lol. Pretty sure they’re both 34” the outback is longer, it’s basically same kayak with more upgrades done to it for more fishing related. Not to say throwing some rod holders or h rails on the compass won’t get you similar results for almost half the price. I think the compass is more stable due to hull design.
My first time Kayaking and this Kayak held strong. th-cam.com/users/postUgkx4k5UrhC3v_Y4hIEaXLGvHcN5a5aBmZNB The water got pretty rough as a speed boat zipped by me, and the Kayak withstood it (I expected to be capsized). The Ores are very easy to put together, the pump worked beautifully. the seats are a bit hard to sit in after a while (I recommend sitting on the floor). after reading the reviews I was very scared it'd get a hole in it, the material is very strong and durable. The Air valve may need a small Phillips head screwdriver to adjust, other than that, it's well worth the money!(update)I've gone Kayaking in 3 Lakes and 2 rivers totaling about 40 miles. the kayak had two holes and they patched easily and no other problems can't wait for kayaking season this year!
Thank you! Glad I was able to help. You will love it
Thanks for the walkthrough comparison 👊 I work for a Hobie dealer and this helps me with selling points 😎
Not a problem! Thanks for watching
Thanks, great comparison video. I have owned an Outback for 12 years (an older model). I've mostly been happy with it. except I'm not so you and fit anymore and I've since had a major back injury. and I'm really starting to feel the weight, I car top mine and it's just getting too heavy. Also, I've downgraded to a little sedan now and it's gotten damaged unloading off the vehicle. I think pretty soon I'll be looking at a lighter Hobie and I like the look of that compass or possibly the revolution. It would be so great to head out fishing for the day without all the strain and hassle.
Check out my video on the Passport R. They are lightweight and rotomolded as well. I just released a video on the Hobie Lynx too
Great comparison!
This really gives folks some terrific details to help anyone just starting with a Hobie to make an informed choice.
I started out with an Outback (it was the demo version so was almost the same price as the then-new Compass), and as a bass fisherman, I did love it! Then I upgraded to the newer Outback just for the gear setup you outlined. Then the next year I upgraded to the Pro Angler 12 360, and I just bought a Pro Angler 14 360!! The weight on the PAs is a BIG consideration for us older guys (I'm 70), so I did get a Dynamic Dolly and just bought a trailer.
The Outback is pretty stable, but the PAs are tops! But I'm sure the Outback is better in that faster water, especially for paddling -- and I know from experience paddling the PA 12 is NOT that easy! It's just so wide.
Keep up the geat work and keep folks informed!
Roger, The Smiling BassHole
Thanks for the feedback! PA is tops for stability.
@@thebeardedpaddler I do love stability! I had an issue with the drive and couldn't use my PA 12 during the end of last fishing season. So my fishing buddy, who had bought my Outback, loaned it back to me so I could keep fishing. I was AMAZED at how much lighter it was and easier to haul around! I even considered getting an Outback but as I'm a "big boy," the larger PA makes me more comfortable on the water.
Keep the great videos coming!
Hobie specs both out at 34" wide. But in the video the Outback does look wider. My 2 Compass measure 34" wide. Perhaps the OB is 36 wide?
They are both 34" the composition is a bit different almost the illusion of more width if that makes sense?
I have the Hobie 10.6 Passport (the blue one), it is light and able to carry with one hand. good for rivers and lakes. carry on your car or truck, no need for trailer. simple for fishing
I am getting ready to do a video on the differences between the Passport R (rotomold) and the older style Passport.
Thank you for watching!
I have a 2019 outback. Been on the Pacific Ocean with big swells to Lake Superior with 26mph wind. It did very well on open water. Granted i did upgrade my rudder to a 2016 PA to handle high current and fast wind but is a must just because the stock 2019 outback rudder is just too small and flimsy.
Great feedback and ideas. The Outback is such a great all around kayak.
26 mph winds in a kayak is wild man! She is an unforgiving freshwater sea!
Thanks. I need the versatility to run in shallows and rivers under paddle power. Also, easy loading is key. The added stability of the Outback looks great, but I think I need the versatility and light weight of the Compass.
Very good reason to pick the Compass and precisely why getting to know the needs is critical in choosing the right kayak
I’ve actually heard the compass is more stable. From quite a few people actually.
Nice Video... Very good comparison.
Thank you for watching Steve!
When the time comes to finally upgrade to pedal, ill be going the used market route. Have my eyes set on the compass or revolution 13. Mostly looking for a car topper i can use for trolling salmon, trout, and walleye in the great lakes
Compass will be really nice for that I think. More of them out there too
Mayhe you could guide me a right direction here. I am split weather to get a compass or an outback. I fish rivers and do not use a ton of equipment but want some room for tackle and rods. Your points lead me to the compass but the outback looks like it is built a bit better.
They are both built very well. The Compass will paddle better and not as heavy. If you are liking a minimalist setup, the Compass is a great way to go
Good video; was wondering which would be better in south louisiana bayou and canals for some freshwater fishing then take it inshore fishing when needed.
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I have a 2018 Compass I bought new before the Outback got it's current layout.
One of the things I don't like about the Outback is the top of the side rails are very busy. It seems like the designers went out of their way to occupy every square inch of the surface. Fine of it suits the way you fish, not so much of it doesn't. The cockpit on the Compass is more of a blank slate that you can really customize and make it your own.
I wish the Compass had the guardian transducer and an upgraded seat. Then it would be perfect.
This is a great video thank you. It’s hard for me to figure out which is best for me. I am probably 60/40 split on fishing and just hanging out. I really like that compass but also the passport r not sure which is better
Compass has som more features and weight to it. The Passport is more of a light duty pleasure craft that you can obviously still fish from. Go 12ft if looking at the Passport
Good comparison. I am picking up a Hobie Mirage Lynx next week. I have found that these other boats are too heavy for me to go solo without getting some sort of lifting device to put it on the truck. (Back issues). You lose some features in favour of light weight, but I think it’ll be good.
Lynx is a phenomenal kayak choice! Its been so popular here I no longer have them in stock! I mounted a fish finder to one for a customer and he pulls some monsters out of the lake with it!
Thank you for watching!
I had a lynx. Lots of good qualities, but the splashing noise drove me to sell it. That was my only complaint. It fished well offshore too
@@jonwall4994
It could make loud farting noises and I would still love it! The light weight and ease of tossing it up on my rack just makes it ideal for me!
What did you replace your Lynx with?
They are heavy indeed. But the Lynx is not exactly a kayak. But it’s lightweight. But you get very wet…but….😂😂🤣 You get the picture. That’s why I own both an Outback AND a Lynx.
Awesome detailed comparison and review. Looking to purchase a lighter weight Hobie kayak. Would you be able to do a compass and passport 12 R comparison? Thank you.
Just dropped the video! Great minds think alike lol
Cool walkthrough, thanks! I have a Compass on order and am excited to pick it up later this month. I’m having the outfitter move the circular hatch to the front and installing the longer storage hatch in front of the seat. Recently I heard that there may not be enough room for it, and the only option is the wider hatch that runs left and right. Have you run into this issue?
We have done the upgrade several times. Hobie used to make a shallower tub that fit the horizontal hatch but can't seem to get it with Hobie anymore. The V hull hits the sides of the tub bottom. May be other options now though
Hallo!
I am from germany and because your store looks so big i want you to ask you questions:
I am 6.7 ,= 2 Meter tall an my body weight is 125kg
Witch hobie kajak would fit me?
I want to go kajaking on calm rivers
Mosel und Lahn,close to Koblenz, and a lake where the water is usual calm.
Maybe a tandem is an option!?.
But it depends on, that i have engouh space in it.
Thank you for taking time to answer my questions.
A big hallo from germany
I'm 6'5 and have no issues whatsoever. I do not have to use the tallest setting on the adjustable drive. I would suggest the Pro Angler or the Outback due to the adjustable seat hight of the Outback and the high seat of the Pro Angler. This will give you a much more comfortable seating position. Thank you for watching!
Overall the Outback is the best but the Compass is not to be sneezed at either.
Very true
@@thebeardedpaddler If I could only have one kayak, it would be the Compass. Luckily I don’t have to make that choice and that’s why I own both an Outback and a Lynx.
@@tonyg3091 just put up a Lynx video yesterday!
I think that compass is more suitable for offshore cause of the narrower noise? Or am I wrong 😑
It cam be, yes. I would definitely check out the Hobie Revolution 11 and 13 foot models for that. Very slender profile and very fast. Thanks for watching!
What's the best hobie kayak for stability
Pro Angler 14
just bought a Hobie lynx. can't find any H rail, do u have it in stock?
I believe we do actually
Why would you have rod holders at your feet?
Valid question. It allows you to troll along the side and also easier access to reach forward. Also may eliminate the need to carry a large rod and tackle management system with you.
Thanks for watching!
Who's the hobie 12 r for
The 12R will be for someone covering a lot more ground and maybe more open water. Longer kayaks track better and also able to carry more gear in the larger storage areas. 10.5 will be more maneuverable and the 12 will be faster in straight line with less steering needed
Thank you so much for watching!
@@thebeardedpaddler I wish I could win a kayak like a Hobie pro angler 14 360 or an old Town autopilot kayak
@@edgars00789keep throwing your name in those hats man! Thanks for watching!
Well you just sold me an Outback lol
Tell your dealer they owe me a commission lol
@@thebeardedpaddler 😄
Pro angler 14 the best
The outback is good for 3 years until you get a crack in it and you’re dealer or hobie will not return your calls or emails
Definitely a dealer issue. This has been my biggest issue with warranty claims. Most of the warranty issues seem to be due to REALLY poor paddleshop service. Have you been to visit your dealer in person? I would really hold their feet to the fire as its their job.
Neither, I would rather have a old town sportsman 132 epdl.