2023 Hobie Compass Vs Outback | Don’t Waste YOUR Money
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- 2023 Hobie Outback vs 2023 Hobie Compass, Which should you buy and why. 2022 Hobie Compass or Outback vs Compass or Outback. A full breakdown of the kayaks
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Love how you always smile while you speak. A true gentleman. Thanks for the great information.
I loved my 2022 compass so much, I bought a 24 duo model. Even solo, the duo handles really well and I feel like I’m hanging out on a skiff with so much space. The cockpit of the compass has sooooo much more space than the outback does.
I would probably go with the compass over the outback, the biggest reason for me is the fact of it being lighter for me to transport it especially car topping it too. 68 lbs vs 85 lbs empty is a big difference.
Expertly delivered with superb content, all right to the point. Thank you.
Absolutely amazing review again. Never disappointed with any of the reviews on this channel. Great work and keep it up🔥🔥🔥
Thanks Leonardo.
I saved over $1k by purchasing the Compass over the Outback and no regrets!
legend thanks for the rundown for 2022 kayaks mate.
Easy dude
Great review. You really do a good job on this stuff. I just bought an outback. Standing is very important to me. I’m 68 and being able to easily stand and stretch really extends my day and… I hold my rod with my left hand so a right hand steering control is huge!! I love the boat! Your reviews should give people the information they need to make an informed decision on the right boat. Very good work.
Hey Gary, I think those reasons are the perfect reasons why to go the outback. Awesome choice imo. Thanks for getting behind the video legend. Tight lines.
Thanks Byron! Your reviews are amazing and informative. Exactly what a kayak fisherman wants to see before buying. Would love to know car topping ability/difficulty comparison for these two
I initially had it in here but there’s no real difference there mate!
I’ve owned both models and agree with everything said in this vid. As a 190cm 105kg guy, if I could only have one of these models I’d take the compass. It’s far more comfortable and handles much better in the salt
Awesome comparison mate, crystal clear on what they both can offer. Great video!
Thanks legend, appreciate the compliment dude
I bought a 2020 compass and added only the things I needed. Although I bought it pre owned so saved money there. I did sell the mirage drive and picked up a 180 because the lack of reverse in the mangroves was a big pain
Good review. I have a compass and love it. 100% about the old seat requiring the Berkley rises though, the extra space under the seat is excellent with this addition. I would highly recommend a bumper bro too for both yaks as you have mentioned in previous vids. Love the vids, keep it up chieftain.
Tight lines
Thanks Legend? Always nice tones your comments Matt. Hopefully the vid helps someone deciding. Totally agree on the bumper bro!
Great video. Nailed it. I just made this decision a month ago.! I went with the Camo Compass with turbo fins, added the rectangular hatch, moved the round hatch up front to hold the battery, added a map pocket on the right and a berleypro sidebro on the left. FYI you cannot do the vertical hatch on the 22 Compass. Only rectangular. I feel it is set up nicely for the inshore fishing I do and it’s a little easier to maneuver off the water.
Great set up JR, that’s a great piece of info on the vertical hatch bud! I appreciate the contribution legend
A seat upgrade for the compass is AWESOME!! I had both the 2021 Outback and a 2018 Compass. I got way wetter in the Outback because it would cut through waves instead of going over. I am going to get two 2022 Compasses and be way happier than the Outback.
That's great to hear! totally agree with the wave cutting
Great review. I have one of each from 2021 and your comments are spot-on. One additional no-brainer addition to the Compass is the web pockets where they lack the H-rial of the Outback. They are dirt-cheap, holes are pre-drilled and gives you a place for pliers, fish grips, lure scent, etc. Oh, and the cup holder on the Compass is inferior to the Outback. Thanks mate!
Well said Wes, you're all over it dude. Those side pockets are awesome
Nice and clear comparison Byron. For me, the cockpit, rear storage, guardian transducer mount and being power pole ready make the extra $$$ well worth it. Thanks again for the vid.
Ahhh good point on that power pole mount
Great review Byron. One thing that I found to be added for Compass is that the loader to protect the rudder is an extra $, meanwhile for Outback, it is included. Also the foot pads. So, a bit more upgrades are needed for the Compass to be similar to Outback. One mate of mine did cost comparison with the 2020 model to make the compass to be on-par with Outback in majority of the areas, in the end it is just AUD500-ish different. What matters at the end are the specific features that needed: weight (compass is lighter if to car topping it), hull design (better maneuverability and speed vs more stability) vs 2 steering handles, H-Rail, power pole ready that are unique to Outback.
Hey Andre, great insight dude. For many of us there are different priorities in each. I think one of the cool things about kayaking is how customisable you can make your own vessel
Nice review and good info on the updates.
My pleasure!
Awesome review mate. I've recently been on the market for my first fishing yak and I'm finding it hard not to go the hobie route. The compass in my opinion seems to be the better yak. Less weight, better inshore fishing as you don't get as wet. The storage is an easy and inexpensive fix and as for the rest it all seems the OB accessories are more of a flex and that's about it.
Glad I could help Trevor!
Yes mate!! So fkn ready for this one!
Hope you liked it dude
Awesome comparison video Byron! I was at HWS at the weekend and checking out the Outback. heading back there for a test run and then buying one. Any suggested mods I can do? Im adding the Lowrance 5' finder, live bait tank, rod holders and considering the cooler bag that sits on the bow. love your work buddy!!
Great review and well explained
My pleasure
Great detailed review, I will be interested in peoples view of the new seat, I would like to upgrade to a Hobie next year and I would like to go down the Compass path.
Yeah Watto me too, I’ll be jumping into the new one to give it a go. Fingers crossed it will be awesome!
+1 for compass! nice review Byron!
Cheers legend
I went in to buy a compass ( I still think its a great kayak) this was 2019) , they both had plastic seats,. The Outback came with 180 drive as well as Turbo fins. in2019 you had to find a dealer to swap the fins for 180 at a small
upcharge. When I went there and compare the two kayaks from a fishing standpoint, the Outback was layed out better. You would have to buy an H rail mod and the transducer protector you mention( the outback doesn't need it (it has the retractable mount used in the Pro Angler). Add up the mods to the Compass I could buy the Outback.
After two years of fishing in saltwater and shallow water I love the outback, only regret the passport seat is better.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Robert, I hope someone on here reads it and finds it beneficial in the future bud! Tight lines!!!
Great thorough info
Glad it was helpful!
Always interested to see your thoughts on these types of things Byron. Great comparison 👌 I personally had this conundrum 12 months ago and went the Outback. Main reason it was a "no holes required" tournament ready solution.
Do you think your recent move to the bass boat has changed your views / requirements / what's important to you from your yaks? Noting your comments on the PA in this vid and your prior review on high end rods in a yak with vertical storage.
Love your work mate 👏
Hey mate, I’d say I’ve been jumping around into so many different fishing platforms that my thoughts on the PA have changed.
Vertical storage is the worst but it didn’t come up in this video because the problem isn’t exclusive to these two kayaks.
I’m exploring horizontal solutions in the compass :)
@@ByronTeaHill yeah fair call mate. Keen to see what rod storage solutions you come up with. Still working through a few for different ideas for my Outback.
Hey Byron,
Great comparison mate. Some food for thought when I purchase my next kayak. Would love to hear some more about why you are shifting away from the pro anglers in the tourney scene.
Simple Marc. It’s the weight. I don’t want to push as much if I’m travelling. Trailer costs, rego, more fuel burn. I never minded the extra weight around the ramp, but not having a pa makes sense when I have a boat.
Great review Byron 👍
Cheers mate
have new 2022 compass and I like it.
Hey Byron what are your thoughts on the Compass stability? Would you take it off shore?
Great comparison. Certainly gives some food for thought.
It does hey mate. It’s a lot of money hey!
@@ByronTeaHill when you compare it to a small tinny. While they do different things that’s the comparison. Then you take it down to the kayak vs kayak level, that extra $900 could go a long way. Like you said about expensive vs more affordable gear. The difference could be a high end rod and reel or 2 mid range rod and reels with the compass vs the outback and no extra rod and reels.
Damn no giveaway this week!? 🤣anyway great review once again Byron, helps me feel better for not spending the extra 900 on the outback. Your original compass video review was the first video of yours Id ever come across and was the reason I immediately got one from HWS so hopefully they have given you a nice Xmas present this year 🤪
Hahaha no giveaway mate. Thanks mate.
Nice reviews, I have the passport and the seat has been more than comfy for me 😀
Great to hear!
What a great choice to have, personally I’d take less weight and opt for the Compass if I was getting a new kayak.
10000% compass dude
Looking at Passport 10.5R vs the LYNX, primarily for exercise and not fishing. Can you comment on the differences, besides the large price difference? Thanks!
Compass does seem to have the edge for me as I’m a tall bloke but the price is expensive considering the lack of updates. Still good to see the differences between them though 👍🏻
You are 100% the prices are high. The issue from our perspective is that if the demand is there, and people want to spend the money; then the high costs is right. Crazy though’
Great review. Surprised these kayaks are so similar. I thought there would be more of a difference between them.
When the outback was the only kayak with style it dominated. Not so much anymore
When I see the vid icon pop up it is the best filling
Ethan mate, you're a legend buddy
But which one is better in shallow rivers? Leaning toward the compass due to weight, cost, and paddability.
Just bought a brand new outback from a well known dealer in vic a couple days ago and it come with 2021 rod holder mould 🤦🏻♂️ lovely kayak to say the least but feel a little ripped off! I recently sold a pa14 which I absolutely loved, but took up too much space with a trailer! And you lose that I’ve got a kayak I can launch anywhere with a pa14 argument to boat owners haha love your work mate.
Which one is easier to paddle? I plan on going down small creeks or real shallow areas where the drive can’t be used
Ill add a different perspective...
I fish the Texas coast. This include marshes, bayous, back lakes, flats, some near shore, and some FW lakes. I fish 1 to 2 times weekly.
I went from a compass to a Passport 12.0. The Compass has an absolute tiny cockpit. The rear storage is enormous, to the poont of being impractical. Once adding the horizonal rectangular storage, the compass is uncomfortable to stand in over time.
The passport 12.0 has a much roomier cockpit allowing me to stand, fish, and stretch. The Passport 12.0 amd the compass are both light weight. I have no issues with standing in the Passport. With the addition of the vertical rectangular hatch and then moving the 8" round hatch to the bow, theres plenty of storage on the Passport.
Bottom line, with a Passport 12.0 I added an anchcor trolley, vertical hatch with bucket, 8" round hatch bucket, map pockets, the XL deployable Passport rudder, and a custom 6mm 2 tone marine mat deck covering all for the cost of a base Compass. My Passport is as nimble and stable for me to fish out of as my Compass.
2 areas the compass is better. The seat and having the 180 drive. The seat issue was corrected with a $25 4" gel cushion from amazon and I have found that I rarely wanting to go in reverse.
Awesome review mate. Thanks! What do you think of the Hobie Lynx?
It's good, Full review is here th-cam.com/video/_e1_vhevX7M/w-d-xo.html
One other note about the 2022 Compass for those adding the rectangular hatch. The Hobie rectangular bucket did NOT fit in the hatch of mine. However, the BerleyPro version fit perfectly:)
Cool!!
i got the Compass for the lighter weight. I went to add the rectangle hatch but the weight is very heavy so I skipped it. I didn't like the rod holder options either so I made a rocket launcher. its really sweet now.
Great break down. I was going to buy the compass but found a used outback for a bit cheaper so went that route. I would love to try out a PA But the speed and weight I think I will stick with the OB for awhile
The PA is bloody massive Mark! That extra 45lb is killer imo
@@ByronTeaHill I bet. Still have to give it a whirl. A lot of guys in our local tournaments are moving towards lynx’s
@@Spaceshuttlegunner really. Isn’t that interesting. It’s a great boat, but man I don’t know if I’d want to be caught in bad weather with it
Good review, I have the 2020 compass and goes a treat, I have found I get a bit of water egress through the round hatch up the front as lots of water spills into that area when fishing inshore in a bit of chop. I probably wouldn’t move the round hatch up front if I had my time again, just cause of the amount of water that sloshes around in that area with waves.
Yeah I’ve heard that idea before. Do you get much water in the hull as a result?
@@ByronTeaHill can get 1-2 cups worth of water in the hull, but depends how rough it gets and how much water splashes over the nose of the kayak and sits in that front section before draining out the pedal drive hole.
@@craig5147 great feedback Craig. Cheers dude
Does anyone have a fix for the 2022 compass seat sliding side to side in rough chop? Will slide left to right about 20mm and really throws your weight off when doing it.
I had both. Easily caught fish from both. Easily pedaled and paddled both. The biggest difference I found was the outback is heavier. Way easier to load the compass into the back of my Toyota Tundra. I'll stick with it because they're both very similar except the weight.
You don't really use most of the features unless you overload either boat.
Spot on
Again great video mate and I do enjoy this topic having Pro Anglers outback’s and compasses in the family I can say I like them all I would say that I can see the compass being the number one kayak in Australia with having 3 in our family hmmmmmm will be interested in what your sitting in at Bemm mate
I’m still working that out bud, all over the place in what I’m changing to!
@@ByronTeaHill will have to say for tournaments the outback has the advantage of 2 sets of scupper holes for both livewell and hobie cart where the compass has only one set that was something I noticed as a inconvenience with limited rod storage on the compass you use the livewell and to have this not always strapped in adds risk before hitting the water but just my view both are very good options mate
Thanks.
If only the compass was dual steering, I'm missing my left hand and it would make Life a lot easier for me, I'm running a 2012 outback at the moment and have to reach under my leg to steer 🤣 not a problem most people have though. Might have to go the new outback when I upgrade!
awesome video champion
Cheers legend
I thought the Outback had the better seat? Maybe that was just the salesman... lol. I just plan to use it as a photography platform for the most part. Can you fit the standup Hbar onto the kayak?
Love my compass
Very nice and informative video, thanks! You said Outback weight is 46.72kg but it’s actually 38kg. Did you include the Mirage Drivenor something else?
Just grabbed the fully rigged weight mate
Nice comparison mate.
Glad you liked it
Wish there was a give away this week. 😄
I'm still trying to talk the Mrs into letting me buy a Hobie passport 12. 😄
Great vid mate
Lol. Just show her the video on the passport. So much opportunity for adventure
I own an Outback and a Lynx, but if had to have only one yak, that'd be the Compass. Frankly-more than plenty for everything you need a fishing yak for.
Don't get me wrong, the Outback is a phenomenally good kayak and I love everything about mine, except for the weight but I found I need much less gear than I thought so no need for all that capacity.
P.S. You can cut out a rectangular hatch for the Compass if you so wish I believe and also-cut a hatch in the front if needed.
you certainly can
It was the 2020 Outback all the way for me. Ive owned a PA 14, 2015 Outback and still have a Revo 13. The Outback feels like a combination of all three to me. I felt the extra money was worth the H-Rail system on the Outback (I also installed the upgrade to the back), the guardian system, dual steering, adjustable seat, proper grab handles, especially the one on the back. You cannot upgrade the Compass to match any of these features.
Hey man, thanks for you ideas. I love the difference of opinion. I gotta be honest, I don’t know if I need that stuff so I don’t mind not having it! Cheers for sharing mate!
You selling any of them?
@@lbelle12 No way love them 😁👍
How does a passport stack against the compass?
Can I go offshore in the passport
How about revolution 13? I tried the new outback and compass, not as comfortable as the old seats offered. But it is super fast,
Hey Frank, I don't have a lot of experience on the revo mate. used a bunch of times but havent got one for comparrison
Good video mate 👍
Was hoping Hobie were redesigning the outback bow and front hatch to resolve issues going through choppy water. Fingers crossed for next year.
Nope. No changes in 2022. I was hoping the compass would have a second steering handle!
Good vid
Cheers dude
Hi. I've recently bought an Outback but considering swapping it to a Compass due to it's weight. Does the difference in weight make that much of a deal in cartopping it? Love your reviews!
Hey Michael, its noticeable but honestly not a huge difference mate. A loading system may be the way to go.
mate another top review, as always. BTH i know u r a hobie nut but there r other really gud brands that offer the same things or other options that maybe better/different than hobie has. these may suit anglers in different ways. as i said before i know nothing bout kayaks, just asking.
I’m tracking them Stephen, all in good time legend. There’s really only 1 kayak in 2022 that’s new so they’ll be plenty of room for others ;)
Nice video. One day i will buy one of this. 😉
100%
@@ByronTeaHill
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@@raymundmonica8884 priorities :)
Just bought a compass 2018 used and set up nice. All tho they installed the H rail right over top of the factory😣
I'm older now and u tried to stand up in it?
And that's not gunna work for me LOL
Looked at the standing barr! Over 300.bucks i don't think so. I was looking at my push lawn mower and the handle looked like it might be a good fit for a standing barr??? Anyway thanks for the video!!!😇
thats cool! I'd be interested to hear how the go
@@ByronTeaHill yea I don't think that standing barr will help me lol
I think I'll just stay seated😇
Can anyone confirm if the new seat solved the previous problems?
If you are car topping your Yak and/or launching over soft sand then go for the Compass because of it's lighter weight. All those great features of the Outback are not much good if you can't get it to the water.
At the beginning the review you mention how your going away from the PA 14 , why is that I’m really curious, can you please go into detail?
Hey Rob, I’d say I’ve had the opportunity to jump around into many different fishing platforms since the channel started and my thoughts on the PA have changed from it being the best of the best. Bigger means heavier and weight is something you need to carry with you on the water.
@@ByronTeaHill that’s very true , how reliable was the 360 drive for you?
Had both. Outback hands down.
Cheers for commenting dude!!!
Is the Outback a much wetter ride then the Compass like a lot have said?
@@joannericci5981 They’re both about the same.
The change in the hatch from round to square is problematic with the Compass. The bucket that Hobie supplies doesnt actually fit in the new compass. You have to get the Berley Pro bucket. This frustrated me a lot.
Yeah dude 100%. The bucket issue is a different issue from the hatch change. You don’t get a bucket when you get a hatch, that’s an extra purchase. So don’t buy it ;) honestly, you get more room in hull if you’re not using a bucket
How are the seats holding up on theses?
Great if you keep them out of the sun
I got a 2022 outback and it doesn’t have those rodholders.
There’s currently a mix of product still making its way through stores Aaron. The guys at my local have seen them for around 3 months now on some models but not others.
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Compass=Porsche
Outback=Ferrari
I like Ferrari's, lol.
Compass > anything else
He went all in!!! Nice legend. Sick channel btw
@@ByronTeaHill Haha it's the only kayak I've used so I'm a little bias. Cheers mate, your content is top tier also!
Sorry but I think 5300 bucks (naked) for one of those is ridiculous. For about 2500 you can buy and 100% customise ANY kayak to your personal preference and the specs you need in your fishing grounds. For instance...
Seating, rod holders, shades, motors, spoilers, landing gear and music more.
If a kayak reaches a price range of "boat", the concept is a mismatch.
At least for my taste and wallet.
Hey dude. I think your point is valid. The only thing I’ll say is that price is a function of demand and these kayaks are constantly selling out. You’re right in thinking they aren’t cheap, but people want them!?!?
@@ByronTeaHill agreed. If people are willing to (over)-pay plastic, money they surely must have plenty. But still no innovation no much difference in everything.
One sided note. In case of ocean fishing, none of them recommended. Several reasons play in to it. That's exactly why I custom fit my kayak for blue water use only. Nevertheless, good video.
Happy fishing ya'll...
I want a hobie so bad. maybe I don't need a kidney. I got a spare.
hahahaha
Outback forever
Why are you waving your arms so much?
I like being a peacock
As soon as i saw the prices i knew i was watching the wrong video 😢. Have a great day. Im out
Misleading title... You need to correct!
Hobie is way to over priced
Hello, is the new compass can have a « total scan » for GN4 humminbird plz ? My bad, not for Outback 2022 but, for Compass 2022....
🤣😂🤣
Great comparison BTH. (Disclaimer I sell Hobies).
They are both great yaks, however personally I think the initial versatility of the Outback is worth the money. The rail system combined with the trac mounts makes mounting any sort of fishing pimp (rod holder, sounder, go pro, phone holder etc) so much easier, faster and more versatile.
Personally the first accessory I’d add (and did/do/recommend is a Scotty or Railblaza rod holder on one of the rails. Really helps when unhooking fish, tying knots etc. Plus I also think the moulded-in rod holders are way too large - great to see they are being changed.
Nice Elvis. I think you can do all of what you mentioned on the track mounts in the compass. I’ve said it before, imo if you mount anything on the Hrails in the Hobie your robbing yourself of about 4 inches of cockpit area. Always mount on the outside!
Thanks for getting involved buddy.
@@ByronTeaHill I hear you on the H rail mounts, however I’ve had some instances of the trac mount becoming loose under weight (7” Sounder) so moved it to the far end of the H rail, lose a tiny bit of space, but it’s really around my feet so not a big deal. I also have a X style railblaza phone holder mounted on the far end of the left rail for the simple fact is if it does fall out, I want my phone to fall into the boat - not out of it. (Touch wood).
But other than those two- yes trac mount.