THIS SONG IS A BOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Blind reaction to EPIC: The Musical - Open Arms

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  • @TCG31456
    @TCG31456 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +163

    Odysseus (protagonist) is the captain! Eurylochus (the one who wanted to raid) is his brother in law and his first mate. Polites' rank is not stated, but he, Ody, and Eurylochus are all childhood best friends, so they are all close.

    • @codyparris2338
      @codyparris2338 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Not only is Odysseus the captain, he's the literal King of Ithica.

    • @cindybaraini
      @cindybaraini 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That is why I advised you tô see the cut song called "your light"

    • @felixhenson9926
      @felixhenson9926 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Polites might as well be the informal second in command to Eurylochus's formal position.

    • @sethevett950
      @sethevett950 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cindybarainilol, THAT’S why.

  • @BigStem
    @BigStem 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    Honestly the whistle at the beginning sounds like bird/jungle noises to me

    • @blossom6792
      @blossom6792 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I also headcanoned it was the lotus eaters watching them-

  • @J939N
    @J939N 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +168

    Polites is about the same age as Odysseus, in the musical they grew up together including eurylochus
    He isnt naive nor a pacifist. He just has a good moral compass

    • @BrittanyArtPoetry
      @BrittanyArtPoetry 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I think he might be a little naive- this is Ancient Greece after all

    • @icemagiciangh
      @icemagiciangh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Is that canon? I thought it was just from the animatic

    • @J939N
      @J939N 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@BrittanyArtPoetry he went into Troy and most certainly killed. He may be naive in the moral sense but not in the "staying alive in dangerous situations" sense....

    • @blossom6792
      @blossom6792 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@icemagicianghno I’m pretty sure that’s canon

    • @J939N
      @J939N 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@icemagiciangh I could've sworn I saw a short where Jorge called that animatic accurate

  • @altarudragonspirit4016
    @altarudragonspirit4016 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Y'all also seemed confused on everyones standing in the crew. ODDYSEUS is the captain, the one you were thinking of on the ship (Eurylochus) is his second-in-command, and the man he went with (Polites) is his best friend; I don't think his rank in the army is ever outright stated, but he's probably also a high ranking officer, or the very least a soldier that he holds in high regard because of them being best friends

  • @altarudragonspirit4016
    @altarudragonspirit4016 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    4:01 It's just Jungle Ambience, y'all, chill XD
    7:46 Polites is *not* the baby of the group. That would Elpenor, who was apparently like 18 or something at this point in The Oddysey (?)
    10:36 Fun fact: Jorge has a story about Stevens audition for Polites that you can probably find on his channel; as part of the audition, they had him sing Polites' lines in 'Open Arms', but he misunderstood the assignment and sang *all* the lines (including the creepy goblin voices, lol)
    17:01 They aren't luring them into the cave, Polites asked where there was other food to eat and they gave him an answer
    17:41 STOP BEING MEAN TO MY BOI >:[

    • @ShyyGaladriel
      @ShyyGaladriel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      You can tell they've watched too many horror films XD

    • @JayietheRiverWarrior
      @JayietheRiverWarrior 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      …Elpenor was 18? Well shit, now I feel bad for laughing at his goofy death. 😂 Wait how does that work, was he 8 when he accompanied them to Troy, or did he sail over to join the war later or something?

    • @altarudragonspirit4016
      @altarudragonspirit4016 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@JayietheRiverWarrior I remember reading a comment mentioning something like that on another reaction, like the fact that he was the youngest member of Oddyseus' army, as well as how old that would have him when they first departed, lol. I'm not up on my Oddysey knowledge, so I couldn't say for sure though
      also makes it funnier that he has the deepest voice of everyone in the crew, lol

    • @michellewest4796
      @michellewest4796 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@JayietheRiverWarrior iirc, 7 is the age you enter manhood in some stories

    • @JayietheRiverWarrior
      @JayietheRiverWarrior 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@michellewest4796 Well that’s deeply depressing ;-; I feel like there are still some purely physical issues with sending a 7-year-old to fight a grown man in battle though. Though presumably not everyone you take into a war is a soldier - maybe he carried weapons or did other work around camp or something.

  • @JoshBou
    @JoshBou 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    This is Polites, as Odysseuses best friend, noticing signs of PTSD and doing what he can to coach Odysseus through it.

    • @MrJpc1234
      @MrJpc1234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah and doing it too early while they are not yet home safe and thereby getting himself and all of the crew except odysseus killed

    • @felixhenson9926
      @felixhenson9926 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      YES! it's not just naivete like they seem to think

  • @draeonic
    @draeonic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    So for reference:
    "Let's just raid the place and be done with it": Eurylochus, second in command of the fleet
    "--with open arms!": Polites, no apparent rank but has the ear of the captain
    "ig we can try the bold approach of talking before setting everything on fire": Captain Sir, our yet unnamed main character

    • @Articxfrost0
      @Articxfrost0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The main character, 'Captain Sir', is Odysseus, whom The Odyssay is written about.

    • @GaleAeras
      @GaleAeras 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Articxfrost0 Yes, we all know that, but the name "Odysseus" has not yet been mentioned anywhere until song 8. Thus "yet unnamed", as we have not yet been given the name.

    • @shin-ultima8943
      @shin-ultima8943 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GaleAeras wasn't his name literally said in the first song.

    • @CyberPsycc
      @CyberPsycc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@shin-ultima8943 no

    • @draeonic
      @draeonic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Articxfrost0 and who purposefully isn't named within Epic until later, which is why I, too, respected his privacy

  • @anonym0us371
    @anonym0us371 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    To be fair, most of the Ithacan soldiers were either of marrying age or recently married before they went to war, which puts them at between 25 and 30 when they set sail to Troy. This makes them 35-40 at this point (with Odysseus being around 37, Polities being a similar age as they were boyhood pals, and his brother-in-law and 2nd in command Eurylochus around 38 - married to Ody's younger sister).
    Polities isn't naive... he just chooses to look at things perhaps overly optimistically, especially as he survived a horrific 10 year war and continues to have faith in his King's cunning and ability to get then out of any trouble.

  • @ShyyGaladriel
    @ShyyGaladriel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    these little gremlins called Lotus Eaters are called "Winions" by the composer. He also called the fandom Winions.

  • @bagszi
    @bagszi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    So originally the Lotus Eaters are other sailors who stranded on that island and get drugged by eating Lotus and forgetting all their problems and who they are... but because of these cute goblin voices one of the most popular animatic artist (mircsy) draw them as small furry cute plush-like creatures and now they are almost like a mascot of the Epic: The Musical.
    They are collectively called Winions together with some similar cute wind minion creatures in a later song (Keep your friends close). So basically Winions are small cute troublemaker creatures in this version of Odyssey.
    Also the fanbase of the musical started calling themselves as the Winions and new record publisher firm made by Jorge also got named Winion Entertainment LLC.

    • @ShyyGaladriel
      @ShyyGaladriel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Jorge actually designed them as fluffy little big eared guys before that animatic. So she actually made her animatic based on that.

    • @MrJpc1234
      @MrJpc1234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And the fanbase acts unaware that these are the bad guys in this song (whether intentional or not is debatable)

  • @RayGainbows
    @RayGainbows 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Nah Ody is the captain. E is the second in command. and Polites is Odys best friend

  • @tsukihimeyfan
    @tsukihimeyfan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    12:45 you were actually very right here, you picked up on the correct vibe! The lotus eaters in Jorge’s version are tiny, cutesy, weird little creatures with mostly good intentions, just like the aliens in Toy Story. They even kind of tried to warn them about the cave. If you listen carefully, you can hear one of them going “scary cave” in the background when they’re telling Polites about it.

    • @MrJpc1234
      @MrJpc1234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @tsukihimeyfan That is some really weird cope....tried to warn them but we're the ones that suggested they go there in first place......I know the fambase loves and identifies with them finding them cute but you know they aren't the good guys in that song right?

    • @Rcmkney23
      @Rcmkney23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@MrJpc1234 i mean they're not bad. theyre neutral good, or ambivalent atleast. they offered the only food they had when asked, when asked where else they could go they gave the only answer they had. maybe they had a general idea to stay away from the cave but who could know since they cant leave their island. and to that point the fruit makes them a little dumb passive mind so its not their fault

    • @MrJpc1234
      @MrJpc1234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Rcmkney23 Its not a sign of good or nuetral good when the most charitable interpertation of your actions is you are completely ignorant and dumb especially when those actions directly lead to people dying (and wouldve led to Polites becoming enchanted by the Lotus as well if Odysseus hadnt intervened)

  • @chebikitty5566
    @chebikitty5566 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Polities and and Eurylochus definitely serve as the angel and devil on the shoulder for Odysseus early on with Polities being the angel with the greeting the world with open arms and Eurylochus with the lets just raid the place.
    Also best part is the little scary cave in the background

    • @BrittanyArtPoetry
      @BrittanyArtPoetry 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As it has gone on I think there is a different devil on his shoulder, telling him all about ruthlessness.

    • @MrJpc1234
      @MrJpc1234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And you do known that Polities is the Devil in this situation right.....the kind of devil that looks nice and cute but actually gets everyone killed

    • @BrittanyArtPoetry
      @BrittanyArtPoetry 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MrJpc1234 the road to hell and all that

    • @MrJpc1234
      @MrJpc1234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@BrittanyArtPoetry Yeah thats a big part of it as well as the whole naivete line from Poseiden.......im getting increasingly concerned people arent picking up on this I mean Polites way of thinking gets proven wrong in his OWN song when he nearly falls victim to the Lotus

    • @BrittanyArtPoetry
      @BrittanyArtPoetry 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrJpc1234 oh I know Polites is the devil, but I also think Poseidon is as well, both extremes have led to his ruin.

  • @nudgificator
    @nudgificator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    If you haven't already it's worth going back to listen to the couple of interjections from the Lotus Eaters. I can tell you heard "that wayyy!"; my personal favourite is the subtle "omnomnom" after one of the times they repeat "fooood!"

  • @oceanapearl3503
    @oceanapearl3503 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh you don't have to trust him, _you just have to love him_

  • @icemagiciangh
    @icemagiciangh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The lotus eaters have been taken as a sort of mascot. Don’t ask me why, but they’re called Winions. They look kind of like little gray teddy bear things.

    • @shanajeangedeon9060
      @shanajeangedeon9060 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They're called winnions because they originally worked for the wind god before getting trapped by the Lotus' control (wind+minions=winnions) 😁👍

    • @KingsBard
      @KingsBard 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Jorge made the Winions just for Aeolus, but since the voices were so similar, and Mircsys Lotus eater designs were so popular, he retconned the Lotus Easters into Winions.

  • @kickasterisk6155
    @kickasterisk6155 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I mean, you could say that the line between Naivete and Hopefullness is almost invisible

    • @rhov-anion
      @rhov-anion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I see what you did there. 😉

    • @josefinagonzalezdamico4538
      @josefinagonzalezdamico4538 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I *sea* what you did there

    • @MrJpc1234
      @MrJpc1234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It annoys me that alot of the fanbase seems to miss this message despite it being beaten over there head with a club.......metaphorically of course

    • @astellis11
      @astellis11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@MrJpc1234 YOU!!!

    • @MrJpc1234
      @MrJpc1234 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@astellis11 Lol I was very proud of that one haha

  • @Articxfrost0
    @Articxfrost0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I can't wait to see you react to the next one in line. It's my favourite of the early songs.

  • @rulab
    @rulab 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I can't believe the switch up in this song! The switch from the last one to this and then between the two parts of this song was BONKERS. Absolutely love it! These songs are incredible, I can't believe there is only one more left after this though!
    Thank you so much for joining DJ on this one Panda!
    Thank you DJ for this fabulous reaction again!

    • @TCG31456
      @TCG31456 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      One more in the Troy saga! There's currently 25 songs for the musical out and produced, with a planned 40 songs! And they keep getting better~

  • @sofialu226
    @sofialu226 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Lol, you calling Polites "Kid" when he is about Oddyseus same age 🤣
    Also, Oddyseus is the Captain, Eurilichus that mentioned to Raid was Second in Command and Polites is Oddyseus childhood bestfriend

  • @ariadnaalmeida
    @ariadnaalmeida 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I really think you should go back and watch the animatics for the first saga before jumping into the second one. They add so much context to the songs and Jorge himself praise them a lot. He is even working with the animators now every time that a knew saga drops. Highly recommend, specially to clear up any confusions.

  • @franjmorion
    @franjmorion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    creepy noises: a bird

  • @MildlyPerturbed
    @MildlyPerturbed 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Odysseus is the Captain and King. The guy who wanted to raid the island was Eurylochus, Odysseus' second-in-command and brother-in-law. Euylochus is married to Odysseus' younger sister Ctimene.

  • @jenjoiii
    @jenjoiii 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've watched all of you guys's EPIC the musical reaction so far and They all are so good! Love how you express your opinion and feeling. I would do anything to listen to these song first time again XD

  • @galexiadraws
    @galexiadraws 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You guys are gonna love the next song its gonna be amazing!!!

  • @lizlilliman3644
    @lizlilliman3644 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The next song is the one that led me to epic and now i am a big fan. I heard it on box office radio which is an online radio station that plays songs from musicals.

  • @13WolfSteel
    @13WolfSteel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to see the two of you react to the other sagas. There are so many amazing vocalists and songs I would love to hear your reactions to.

  • @SilverCrow0101
    @SilverCrow0101 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    when the Lotus eaters say "Cave"
    There's 1 that says "Scary cave" after

  • @MildlyPerturbed
    @MildlyPerturbed 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how many different genres Jorge uses in this musical!

  • @AuDHio_Recordings
    @AuDHio_Recordings หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:46 I have listened to this song many times. How did I just now notice one of the Lotus Eaters said “scary cave”?

  • @chlistens7742
    @chlistens7742 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    you missed when the lotus eaters said a cave.. there is a late call back scary cave

  • @Punmaster900
    @Punmaster900 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yeah so small little thing Odessus is actually a king so he out ranks quite literally everyone

  • @icemagiciangh
    @icemagiciangh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Ok. Saying it right now. You HAVE TO watch the animatics for the next saga, specifically the ones by Mircsy, and WolfyTheWitch (specifically Mircsy’s for the first few, then Wolfy’s as the last two). They add _so much_ to the story. (And maybe Open Arms so you can see how Mircsy draw Polites and the lotus eaters).

    • @CasuallyConversate
      @CasuallyConversate 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I honestly prefer not having the animatics. Every other creator reacts to those and not having them is kinda refreshing, seeing how someone without that influence interprets the story through Jorge's musical story telling as opposed to the visual of the animatics.

    • @ravenbranwen9701
      @ravenbranwen9701 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@CasuallyConversate
      I feel too much is lost by not watching the animatics. While not every animatic is accurate to what Jorge's vision, it answers a lot of simple questions that just the lyrics are not giving them.

    • @IlieTornes
      @IlieTornes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don’t think they will, since those are with the old audio

  • @falperio05
    @falperio05 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    odyseus is the captain

  • @dansmart3182
    @dansmart3182 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idk his other option was raiding the place, then they would have never left.

  • @XanderHarris1023
    @XanderHarris1023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Winions are claw machine aliens. That is an interesting take, but I can see it.

  • @RayGainbows
    @RayGainbows 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I feel like animatics would be AWESOME for you guys to watch and listen to. Most are very accurate and use Jorge's script to depict scenes.

    • @rhov-anion
      @rhov-anion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Totally agreed. Without visuals, it's hard to tell what's meant to happen in the story. If you're not 100% aware of what goes on in the Odyssey, you'll end up totally lost and miss what Jorge intended. Most of the best animators REALLY know their Greek history, if not hired to create canon-accepted bits for Jorge's premieres.

  • @MrSmile078
    @MrSmile078 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Polites is an actual character from the Odyssey, he’s mentioned only once by Homer and confirmed to be a member of Odysseus crew and his best friend so is safe to say Jorge expanded is role on the story. Eurylochus the second in command in the previous song is Odysseus brother in law and also got an expanded role and serves as the character speaking for the rest of the men.
    A small rule of thumb with epic is assuming that the events of the odyssey are pretty much the same unless it’s explicitly change or contradicted by the songs, so try to be both mindful of the original but also open to change, anything that’s not shown to be different (off screen events or implied) is safe to assume it is as Homer told it (like the death of Hectors son by being dropped from the walls of Troy).

    • @rhov-anion
      @rhov-anion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Polites has two scenes in the Odyssey, both on Circe's island. His fate is never directly given, although there are other ancient Greek stories (at this point, I would label them as "Odyssey fanfiction") where Polites gets separated from the crew some time after Circe. Precisely what happens changes from story to story, and it's a bit too "intense" for TH-cam, but let's just say, I prefer Jorge's Polites WAY more than the original. Here, he's a sweetie. In actual Greek stories, he's the worst scum.

  • @xairinimako
    @xairinimako 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:53 A++ advice xD

  • @constant5642
    @constant5642 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I cant help but feel a lot is being missed by not watching the animation. I respect the decision to listen to the music only but I highly encourage watching the animation the second time around

    • @IlieTornes
      @IlieTornes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Respectfully, I don’t think that is true. EPIC as a musical will obviously have visuals later in the future, but these concept albums are *supposed* to be only audio. And frankly, these two are doing really good at catching things, even without animatics (I didn’t think they would be able to know it was Zeus talking in the Horse and the Infant, for example)
      I do think animatics make things hit *harder* especially in the next saga, but it’s not absolutely necessary

    • @danielstocks9984
      @danielstocks9984 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree they do well to get a lot of the themes and references, but I think if they see the winions as non-threatening it helps establish themes regarding reactions to traumatic events, the nature of threats, Odysseus’ mindset and whether polites is just overly optimistic or dangerously nieve

  • @damiengarner6548
    @damiengarner6548 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So politess is as old as Odysseus

  • @Jeff-fo3ck
    @Jeff-fo3ck 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Y'all. That's why you turn on captions. You missed so many details that were right in front of you lmao😂

  • @legitimatemedicine
    @legitimatemedicine 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I kinda don't love the re-recorded vocals for the Lotus Eaters. The original version made it sound like it was a whole crowd of them with many over-lapping voices, but the remake kinda sounds more like there are only 3 or 4 of them. This version reminds me more of those little green aliens from Toy Story than the whole tribe implied by the story

    • @shanajeangedeon9060
      @shanajeangedeon9060 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah, I'm sad they didn't at least layer the vocals to make it sound like more(tbf about Toy Story, the aliens were also a massive tribe before 3 just happened to get separated)

    • @legitimatemedicine
      @legitimatemedicine 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @shanajeangedeon9060 original sounded like the tribe and the remake sounds like the trio, definitely

  • @sunnysunsins
    @sunnysunsins 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Imagine dissing Polites, bruh

    • @rhov-anion
      @rhov-anion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Once they watch the animatics and realize he's the most favorite character among the fans, they'll look back at this and laugh.

    • @MrJpc1234
      @MrJpc1234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Are you guys not following the story.....Polites woukdve eaten the Lotus and gotten trapped....he gets a bunch of people including himself killed in this arc......his words here are what drive Odysseus mistakes with the cyclops , Athena and Poseiden I am baffled how people take his side is it just because he has a nice voice and says nice things....are u all that shallow?

  • @danuk12
    @danuk12 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ahora que caigo.... ellos están reaccionando a la nueva versión de las 2 primeras sagas, las cuales no tiene animación... lo que lleva a que la saga del Cíclope no van a....... QUE ALGUIEN HAGA ALGO!!! Entré en pánico 😂😂😂

  • @christianr1517
    @christianr1517 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You guys seem to have alot of confusion about characters and what's happening at times. The songs have anmatics tied to them which really had slot and show story plot points that and are explicit in the song. Highly recommended using those for reactions.

  • @felixhenson9926
    @felixhenson9926 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Panda, island vibes does not equal reggae lol. Feels more like, tropical house to me but steel drums =/= reggae haha. Also, weird you just heard a random jungle animal noise and were like 'no you may NOT relax' lol. Weird you think Polites is being naive for wanting to take Odysseus out of soldier mindset and more into civilian mindset. That's honestly what this song is, that and 'look if you extend a little trust to someone you can get a lot more out of life and they'll surprise you right back'. He maybe is naive but i don't think the point of this song was to showcase how naive he is, after all, these characters don't know they're in the Odyssey haha, ofc we know it's far from over, but as far as they're concerned the war is done and they're headed home to their families yknow? Oh, as far as i know Polites is a v similar age to Odysseus, not significantly younger. You guys trust fucking NO ONE lmao