*to be clear* : What seth said was NOT consent. You can’t consent to something 4 months in advance, especially not knowing what it is youre consenting too. what david (and scotty in his video) was doing, was trying to divert the conversation in hopes of getting some of the heat off of them and victim blaming seth in the process. The fact david hasn’t PROPERLY apologized for not only seths assault/trauma , but ALSO saying the n-word, homophobia slurs, etc. says a lot about his character and where his real values lie. ALSO: T.W. at 26:06 of SA
@Hailey Elizabeth many TH-camr hate DAVID DOBRIK because he is getting rich, maybe right now DAVID DOBRIK is the only TH-camr successful and getting really rich, and many celebrities hang out with him, also he become an A list star in Hollywood right now, many TH-camr is getting really jealous, are you among them getting jealous on DAVID DOBRIK too.
All this people are just jealous because they will never be as famous or make as much money as he makes because he is smart. And knows how to make money being creative. Even the little views this people get it is because of him. Pretty sad.
@@5-waymusic421 you do know people have a filter right? People have self control to not say slurs. Are you trying to admit that you yourself have said the n-word? If so I feel bad for you since you’re probably a 6 year old who cusses people out on video games or on TH-cam videos. Please get a life my man and do something productive :)
@@jimmyhauhnar7678 bro do you just stalk David’s channel? Have you not heard of pewdiepie? Or dream or anyone else? There are many you tubers who are more popular than David and are doing safe and not harmful things to get popular. David has to make racist jokes and rely on his friends to get any attention while other popular youtubers can just be funny or provide a good entertainment. Please stop stalking David cause I think you’re not paying attention in your classes considering your grammar. Good luck with your addiction ;)
Lol I was looking for this comment except I thought it would be about how her concealer looked like it was intentional and no one would notice if she didn’t say anything, but this joke actually turned out to be hilarious
A lot of people don't realize that a lot of victims don't realize they're victims until way later, it takes a while to process especially when you don't want to believe you've been assaulted. They can seem like they're down for it at the moment but that doesn't mean they can't feel differently later on, and that doesn't make them a liar or a hypocrite.
about David not apologising: the one time he DID apologise (for native American stuff) he said “to those who got offended, im sorry you got offended, and to those who weren’t offended, im sorry THEY got offended” showing that he truely has no remorse/little empathy. You’re correct, he’s not apologising because he’s NOT sorry. he TRUELY seemed more upset that he had to take his video down as a result of being called out, rather than the fact that ppl were offended.
same, I was subscribed to him for like a week because I loved Lizza and they were dating but I immediately disliked him and his content so I unsubscribed
i just..... im EXHAUSTED with these influencers casually normalizing having a "racist phase".. that's NEVER ok. its a never ending cycle, racist past gets brought up, shitty apology written on notes app is published to social media to their primarily white audience (who isn't the audience that should be accepting it) forgives them, everything is forgotten. its disgusting and lacks accountability.
as a white person, i legit hate when i see white people accepting racist apology’s, like no. we aren’t the group that was hurt, we don’t get to decide if the apology is acceptable. also, like ma’am, why are racist phases all of a sudden a normal thing now 🤡
yeah I agree, I mean honestly I still just don’t understand how people like onlyy really give David shit up to this point (which he does deserve) for this and it feels like Liza just put out a statement from a lawyer, some late activism, and has gone unscathed like she never made fun of different cultures, languages, groups of marginalized people. THEY ARE BOTH GUILTY & there old content is gross.. I just don’t get it 🤨🧐🧐 you know
it's almost become normalised?! they act like everyone went thru a racist phase. like, I've never been racist, my friends haven't ever been racist, it's not normal!
@cozyw of course he’s not gonna trash David. David is Jason’s meal ticket and seems to be just as bad of a person as David, if not worse. But yeah dude. That’s the weird part. Why as an almost 50 year old are you friends with an early 20 something year old in the first place? Even weirder, why are you letting an early 20 something year old boss you around like you’re his henchman? I’m 25, I don’t want to hang out with a 50 year old dude that surrounds himself with people half his age. That shit is weird. The dude would’ve been almost my age while David was a baby
Peer pressure is real and you can see it in this case. Seth, Corinna, Trisha, etc were victims of pressuring. If there is a camera in your face and group of people that pressure you into embarrassing yourself, you are more than likely going to succumb to that pressure. You would be willing to take more shit bc of the benefits. David used his clout and power to belittle his friends. He is not a nice guy. He knew they were needy of money, fame, etc and used that to his advantage.
@@darthrevan2957 sure, but that's not a realistic psychological explanation for reality. Humans very rarely stray off track, it takes a lot of cognitive dissonance to do something like that. You have to remember that free will isn't always realistic when relationships, friendships, and money are involved in a lot of cases, because we as humans are flawed and don't want to mess with our ego. That is why peer pressure is SO dangerous and destructive.
@@maddie9655 this is very true, and I think that comes from the negative impact of MSM and what we're made to believe. Social norms I believe go hand in hand with peer pressure tbh. Whether it's accepted or not.
honestly, the thing that shocked me the most of this whole video what the moment when you said you said you had 3k subs when you uploaded this. watched the whole thing, so good.
No, I'm sorry, but like getting consent randomly 5 months prior does not mean you have consent forever. Seth gave consent that day to make out with Corinna, not Jason. Period. He's allowed to feel violated and the amount of victim blaming coming from Scotty's video is gross.
It'd be like if I accept an offer for a glass of wine when I visit a friend. I consented to that glass in that moment, but it doesn't mean I want refills or would want wine the next time I visit.
@@wastedtalent1625 To correct my analogy a bit, it'd be like if a friend offered to take me to a bar sometime and I agree to it...but then the friend takes me to the bar when I don't expect it and am not in the mood to go.
I get it it. But.... he didn’t just give consent he asked to be in a kissing video. Like he literally asked. But the one where korena and Jason switch wasn’t okay the first time he asked to do it.
The fact that Jason is 47 always weirded me out. My parents are a few years older and that’s essentially them being obsessed with my older brother’s friends.
When Trisha was talking to David about the kissing prank he literally said “Come on it’s Seth” Like wtf does that mean? Just because it’s Seth it’s not stupid? That’s so disrespectful
i think they just assumed she was jealous because she was threatened by Seth stealing her man, as if there isn't other reasons this would make her uncomfortable
The thumbnails switching from gabby to Liza to Corina shows how manipulative he is. He’s exploiting all of his female friends for views, fame and money. It’s disgusting and I’m so grossed out that I hadn’t noticed before.
And a lot s/l/u/t shaming along the way. I've seen a lot of videos of him and s/lu/t shaming is very prevalent. I can't believe how much they had to endure.
Its painful to see casual racism. And its obvious it can't be a joke if its that constant. They either rely on it for the clicks. Or they are just fucked. I vote both personally.
i went to ucla 2016-2020 -- david dobrik would come to frat row on thursdays (the day most frat parties were held) and film drunk girls making out with his friends. it always rubbed me the wrong way, it felt like he was coming to frat row specifically to find drunk girls to film. friends of mine who liked his content told me i was overreacting but i guess time proved me right
also there must be a pretty significant age gap between the vlog squad dude bro's and the college girls right? probably legal, but not very moral in my opinion
@@asiatriplett5495 Nooo lets not forget who Jake Paul is and how much of a scumbag he is just because he's been relatively quiet for awhile and we've uncovered new scumbags in the process. It's like people trying to say Trish isn't a scumbag just because she was a victim in this particular situation. Don't let yourself forget all the horrible shit people have done just because you get distracted. Don't let them off that easy.
@@VOID-gz6jk No I wasn't condemning rape, I was simply addressing the pranks and the jokes. Thank you for your civility! It's important to have mature discussions about this.
@@agustinzarate641 I understand where you’re coming from but they also make these decisions to promote their career and that’s not ok. like Megan fox she did not always speak up about the in-appropriate and demeaning situations she was in because she needed a job and wanted to promote her career. And these were people that they trusted and assumed were their friends so you don’t immediately think that your friend is going to humiliate you in front of millions of people and that’s what he did
i honestly feel bad for jason’s kids. like he is so childish and all his kids friends might have seen those videos and honestly i would be so embarrassed because he is literally a child. and trish doesn’t make it any better.
I respect your opinion. But Canceled culture is very toxic because people are getting canceled for anything. FOR ANYTHING. and it doesn’t teach people anything they get canceled make a crying sorry video and come back and do it again
Let me make this clear: giving consent for something 5 months in advance, when you don't know when or under what circumstances it's actually going to happen is NOT proper consent. It is NOT good enough. And the fact that David doesn't understand that is a BIG red flag and cause for concern.
Would u care to elaborate on that? I didn't quite understand it bcuz it was quite clear that Seth was okay w kissing Jason again --since he was comfortable enough w his sexuality --so that he cud get some clout. Thats not enough??
@@farahnoorjahan2658 he didn’t know that he was going to be making out with a grown ass man. he said “oh yeah would you be comfortable with us trying to prank you with Jason again” literally FIVE MONTHS before, he said he felt pressured into because David gaslights people if they don’t agree to be the subject of racist/discriminating jokes. That’s not consent, he did not consent t being sexually harassed that night or ever properly. Consent is tricky in law etc because it’s hard to define, but this definitely wasn’t consent
@@farahnoorjahan2658 it doesn't count as consent because at the time, five months prior to the actual event, he did not know what he was consenting to. He couldn't have known the conditions in which the "prank" was going to happen. And when it did happen, it is very clear that Seth thought he was kissing Corinna, and had no clue that it was really Jason. At that time he consented to getting with Corinna, but they couldn't have know whether he wouldn't have consented to kissing Jason at that point.
@@alicehillman Yeah theyre are a couple of vids here on YT that talk about how the VLOG squad was baiscally a cult. So I could def see people in that enviroment feeling pressured to go along with it
Is it just me, or is being a straight white man, and surrounding yourself with people from marginalized groups and then proceeding to make jokes about the reasons they are marginalized, literally milking then for content, fame and money, just a bit fucking weird? Like what a power trip, it makes me really uncomfortable honestly
THATS WHY HE HAD SCOTTY DO IT BECAUSE BIG NICK AND H3 SAID HE WAS A GOOD GUY! THATS WHY DAVID PICKED SCOTTY TO TRY TO DISCREDIT SETH THATS WHY SCOTTY BROUGHT UP THE NUDE OF THAT CHICK SAYING THE N WORD BEING SHARED.
Nobody is adding that he did blur it out and only posted it because of the slur. It was never about the po in it. But I felt like they all tried to deviate from the situation by making it about him sharing that video
the thing that trish hated about the threesome with tana jokes was the fact that tana was 19!!!! and jason was like 40 and it made him look (and be lmao) like a creep
and in the video she even said “just tell me it isn’t a caterpillar” like she probably would’ve preferred a big snake over caterpillars because that’s her PHOBIA
Thaaaaank you!!! I was starting to think I was the only one that thou that was hella fucked up. And how they just laughing and belittling her fears as she’s crying... I’m like wtf. How is this funny ?
@@0livia-1104 does anybody ever consider these skits are discussed prior and her saying she hates caterpillars was something they agreed to say to make the video better?
I always felt bad for Corrina and Gabbie, Trish on the vlogs. They were so uncomfortable everytime. They were basically bullied and David shared the things they were uncomfortable with.
Huh? were we seeing the same vids? Gabbie & Trisha are toxic af hence why they cant keep a friendship. Corrina is still friends with david and wenr along with her sexual character. To this day she openly makes sexual tiktoks.
@@robertc6293 there's a difference with sexualizing yourself in your own terms when it's your choice.. VS people making offensive comments and sexualizing you to embarrass you or make money from u
@@DeanithForeverYoung how do you 100% know if it was on Corrina’s own terms or not? She has known david one of the longest minus natalie. If she didnt want to do something she would have said. You cant make every women that interacts with David an automatic victim.
@@robertc6293 no but you can point out how he exploited corrina in exchange for money when she wasnt making good money. he offered her 200$ to get a tatoo that said ‘davids vlogs’ and she was poor so she was gonna take it lmao. she made the decision but it’s still a d!ck move when you could just give her the 200.
“To those that got offended, I’m sorry you got offended. And to those who weren’t offended, I’m sorry they did.” - David Dobrik (Regarding making fun of Native Americans)
Seth actually said that it didn’t really hit him until he was in quarantine and somebody had mentioned to him that he was actually sexually assaulted. he had never thought of it in that way until that moment & it doesn’t matter how much time is gone by it doesn’t even matter what happened in the moment! what matters is the way that it makes him feel and he’s NOT OK with it‼️ there are a lot of sexual assault victims that suppress or don’t even realize that it has happened to them until later on and something triggers it & it’s never ok. NEVER‼️
This was literally me IN QUARANTINE. This same thing happened to me this past year!! i hate people excusing this behavior. Thank you for bringing up this point
This is true. I remember in college a guy I was chatting with (barely knew him, just saw him as an acquaintance) randomly kissed me. No one else was around. He just quickly moved in. I was stunned, frozen in my spot and I couldn’t wrap my head around what just happened. It was so quick, I didn’t know how to respond and I don’t remember how I responded. I’ve completely forgotten about it and haven’t thought of it since, until I learned last year - it was like it randomly hit me like a suppressed memory - that I had been SA. What I’ve learned is I’m a victim of SA. Fvck that guy.
This! We say it to women coming fwd all the time. It blows my mind that now it's a Black man ppl don't remember this. Nor do ppl understand the power imbalance.
@@gl4ssxd “they’re not victims”* The fact that you can’t even write a coherent sentence explains why you would be defending David. The “victims” of David’s “pranks” and insensitive comments are not at fault here. They signed up to get recognition from David’s vlogs, not to be attacked with racist, sexist jokes. They’re not pushing the blame on anyone. No one is trying to cancel David forever, they’re trying to make him take accountability instead of sweeping this under the rug, just like all of his past controversies. Make it make sense.
@@gl4ssxd 1. They agreed to be in a video not to be berated 2. The entire end of your comment is just you begging for people not to respond, if you can't handle people responding dont comment 3. The fact that you are begging people not to respond shows your lack of confidence and truth in what you are saying
Bro David is a literal immigrant minority, just because his parents world their asses off for David to have a good life, yes David has done some bad things and he should be held accountable, but like no one would be friends with him if the stuff be posted back then was really “that bad” especially when most of the people “victims” ask or want to be on the videos, he’s a entertainer who him, his friends, and his fans know he does stupid things for vlogs, they all know he does pranks, it’s so dumb that now pranks and jokes to his own friends aren’t even allowed anymore. If they are uncomfortable, they should speak out right after not years after when David is actually blowing up. David does so much for his friends and they’re family in a way. Insults and jabs at each other are normal. If you really think all this is him REALLY hurting others, then consider canceling every comedian who had friends of other races because they joke about each other but it’s all good in the end because they’re in the same entertainer scene, in the comedy scene, you trying to take an insult that David has said to many of his friends, minorities or not, you can’t leave out the insults he dishes out on the people who aren’t of color. They all make fun of each other and just because David is the most popular of them all, it shouldn’t mean that all of his jokes and pranks a crime, even when he wasn’t as popular he would make a few jokes to people much bigger than him. Like cmon.
@@jasoncruz9413 1. Him being an immigrant doesn't mean he is free from criticism. Him being an immigrant doesn't mane he is allowed to belittle different races and in actuality it means nothing in this discussion. 2. As mentioned in the video many people that later spoke up against him felt as though they couldn't speak out without getting hate, which was proven to be true. You couldn't say hey bro I dont like that if you know that your entire platform would turn against you. What you are trying to do is make it seem like its just goofing between to friends, but that is not the case they were in front of millions of people so the victims were forced into silenced or risked social exile. 3. You do not have the right to tell someone when they are meant to speak up. People will speak up when they feel safe, not when its convenient to you. 4. I dont know what type of family situation you have but if my sister called me a slur i wouldn't laugh, if my brother used a common stereotype agaisnt me I wouldn't laugh. Perhaps racism, sexism, and homophobia is cool in you house but that is not universal so comparing David's friendships to a family is odd and tone deaf co sidering the number of people saying how toxic it was. 5. Not every other comedian has said racial slurs as a punchline, or sexually assaulted a friend as a prank. So no thats not the comedian scene. 6. David has done awful things and should be held accountable for it, as simple as that.
I want to bring up the fact that we can feel bad for the way Trisha was treated AND acknowledge her terrible problem with cultural appropriation and being very harmful to almost every minority group in existence. Anyways- loved the vid❤️
Never understood why people even liked david’s content. Never saw the appeal. Plus, the only reason his friends are vouching for him is because he went around buying them things. So i feel like they are only vouching for him because they are obligated to because of things he bought them.
i know jonah isn't the best person but i always remember the "prank" when they faked an audition with seth rogen for him and when it was revealed to be a "joke" he looked so devastated. david got a load of hate for it but once again all his friends like zane, heath etc. crawled out the woodwork to defend him and say that he knew what he was getting into by being in their friend group. ever since that video david dobrik just seemed like the embodiment of pure evil to me lol
his real name is actually Nick, not Jonah! David calls him Jonah because he says Nick reminds him of Jonah Hill because of his weight 😐🙃😑 ive always felt like Nick(Jonah) is genuinely such a pure soul, and David (& the group) have never treated him and his family right. there have been soooo many instances over the years of David treating him & his family like they're second class citizens and it hurts my heart so much because they don't deserve that shit and it's so obvious that they are genuinely good people. 😭😭
seth making such an effort to talk about his experience, SA and consent only to go share revenge porn of erin without her consent really rubbed me the wrong way. like SERIOUSLY i want to root for him and i will always believe the victim but there's something about that whole situation that makes me feel really icky.
that was one of the most shocking things in this video. Seth contradicted his self like crazy and became an unreliable source to me because that was out of pocket and more than disrespectful
@@kaylenkamiyah694 THAT was the most shocking thing to you from that whole video?!?!THAT was disrespectful yeah it was but what about David and his whole crew and ALL the things they did...wasn’t that disrespectful...?
Yes I like how she’s been consistent in her morals ever since she made some of her worst mistakes at the beginning of her youtube career. I truly feel like she’s changed and I’m proud of the way she defended Seth back even when there was nothing to gain
@@blkbarbie2671 Girl wuuut? Trish is still as problematic as ever. She has had behavior in very recent years that is awful.. Did you forget the extremely harmful stunt she pulled about D.I.D.?? Not to mention the shit load of other ignorant things shes said on the Frenemies podcast and her own channel... and thats the tip of the iceberg. Her ignorance and lies do A LOT Of damage for which she hasn't really apologized.. I believe her when she says that Jason and the vlog squad hurt her and mistreated her.. but I have given this girl a pass for so many other lies (just to have her lie for attention all over again) that I have a really hard time believing anything else she says and I most definitely wouldn't say she's changed for the better. There was evidence to back up her claims this time, but other than that I just wouldn't trust her word alone.
@@Shmaples Has she even apologized for the things she said to Dissociadid? I'm glad she has been changing for the better but she needs to apologize as well..
what shook me the most is that no one believes trisha paytas when she talked about this stuff instead people just thought it was just her trying to stay relevant but it all turns out to be true.
@@minerbasanchez6986 it’s really hard when you know you are speaking the truth yet being labeled crazy or dramatic. Definitely been there. Luckily the truth does tend to come out in the end. I have learned that it is way better to risk looking crazy telling the truth if it means protecting other women!
Bish! You need to be like a Reporter. Your style is extremely your own and definitely doesn't ever feel to judged and doesn't feel like a call to cancel. Just facts of interesting detail and my girl find this makeup interesting during the vid. Good shit.
The whole people calling Seth ape and making ape noises in the street reminds me exactly of how the town treats Sandy in the Squirrel Jokes episode of Spongebob. Don't say harmful things to others and play them off as jokes. The stupid people will think it's okay to repeat those things and sadly we have too many stupid people.
This is why I always trust my gut. I never liked David or thought he was a sweet heart cuz of the people he associated himself with. Your the company that you keep
I never watched him or knew anything about him. But I did see a few posts/photos of him in some memes or fan posts few years back. As soon as I saw his face, I got a feeling that this guy is a douchebag.
How can they add “Seth clearly giving consent” as a lower third, when Seth is literally not consent. He very clearly says “how can I consent to something that I don’t know what’s going to happen” THAT IS NOT CONSENT. And even if he said yes, he can always take that consent back at any point. Which he probably did and you used the 4 months old consent text instead. These people are disgusting. I can only IMAGINE how they treat women or strangers. It’s scary.
You mean when david brought up tana and a threesom on video in front of her to jason and she took off all of her clothes on camera so he couldnt use the video, Except he just blurred her nudity out and did it anyway while calling her crazy and laughing the whole time? Yeah...that was messed up. He finally took it down but she showed it (blurred out of course) on frenemies #26 @10:50
yes. the part of cancel culture that is toxic is when people go on a hate raid without listening to both sides of the story [referring to the james/tati & benji/jorge thing]. but there are people who deserve to be ‘cancelled’ and deplatformed like sh*ne d*wson, lopez brothers, etc.
@@jacka5101 it solves the problem of racists, homophobes, and other predators who seek to use their platform to further an agenda of hate. "cancel culture" is a right wing talking point used to obfuscate the actions of public figures who get caught doing something vile to society. Don't fall for it. You're better than that.
@@amorantoboy exactly! I've stopped giving attention to Shane and Jeffrey, didn't buy merch and overall feel better that I'm not supporting him anymore. If people know what they've done and still continue to support them, then they're just as trash as he is.
You’re so well spoken and this video is so well put together. Good job girly, def subscribing and will be keeping up as much as possible. Looking forward to more content like this:)
Because Scott and all these other people in his group get paid through David one way or another. Even if David isn't paying them directly, which he is, they get exposure through him. Why wouldn't these kids who need/want money not protect their meal ticket?
@Nessa scott’s role in the vlogs is the depressed one that’s rarely entertaining enough to be in the vlogs... david loves scotty like david loves seth & nick
Yes! Just so happens that this people are content creators and their life is based on social media so it is easy to figure things out. Cannot imagine what goes on hollywood. Not many people are willing to talk
The thing about these notes app apologies is that I'm certain most of these celebrities aren't even writing it themselves so there's no way for us, the audience/fans, to know how sincere they are and if they really have learnt from their mistakes and have changed.
I never liked him and people never understood why i didn't. For me it was always obvious that one day his friends will endup tired of being used by Dobrik as entertainment and then being silenced with luxurious gifts.
I would watxh the videos and just be like “…can u imagine how fuckinf tiring it would be to their friend” like I would never truly feel comfortable or even be able to share like the tiniest detail of my personal life bc it would just be the butt of the joke
Yea, I never liked him. I even went and clicked I don't like this creator when his videos are in recommended. He just reminds me of this douchebag person who is liked by everybody and gets a pass by being a jerk insulting his friends and saying it's just a joke. Ew
As a person who really did enjoy David Dobrik and his content this is just pissing me off. Like at one point his content was such an inspiration to me that I wanted to be a content creator like him, and watching this video and realizing what was out into my head that was disguised as “comedy” just doesn’t sit right with me. I honestly don’t think any of them should be forgiven, like it’s just ridiculous.
I used to watch them a lot but I was young and knew most things I shouldn’t and I did this the things they did were odd. It made me uncomfortable even though I was 6 and it’s just disgusting because I used to live watching them even though I felt uncomfortable with what they did because I knew it was sus
My biggest problem is like Seth having had a real SA experience and it’s David’s fault AND also have done not good things. I’ve known about Seth reposting the Revenge P0 for awhile and I still support him speaking up. 2 wrongs don’t make a right. Trisha has had a really hard life but she has also done some shitty things but that doesn’t mean she hasn’t gone through real shit.
also, how seth reacted to the pranks (then and now) is sorta irrelevant. for the first prank David didn’t KNOW how seth would react, yet still went ahead with it.
@@fijiapples5122 he said some lies tho, like his parents were disgusted by it but in older podcast said his mom busted laughing with the bit but hey what do i know, American teens know better what's the truth 😂
@@krisstr5141 but the thing is, beyond all their wrong doings... Dobrik waa still reponsable for uploading a video of Se*ual Assau*t to millions of people to see on youtube. A bunch, probably, impresionable teens that understood that this kind of "prank" is okay.
Yes it reminds me of the people that will go back into someone's history to see if they were arrested in the past when a cop murders them. Like it justifies it because they did a crime in the past. 😒 Same energy.
@@hannahwillis9838 Idk cause I'm fat but I have ppl all the time including some girls make fun of my weight I laugh it all y'all making my generation look bad I swear
The problem with David and his friends is that they literally can never say anything bad about him. He has given all of them hundreds of thousands of dollars in gifts, cars, trips or just plain cash. They make jokes about David owning them but he has subconsciously bought their loyalty for life no matter what and I don’t think they even realize it honestly.
That’s true asf. I’m sure a few of them have considered confronting David about something or other over the years, but then come to the realisation it could cost them their careers. Today, I bet it doesn’t even cross their minds to go against him - the situation is almost cult like
That's manipulative and disgusting of him.. His friends shouldn't feel indebted tho coz they didn't force him to give them those things. He gave those out of his free will..
I'm really glad I found your channel; some true-crime/conspiracy/""drama"" channels come across extremely scripted, stilted, and fake, but you're very natural and it feels like I'm just chillin in your room listening to you info-dump about something that interests you, and that's the vibe I'm looking for
You guys forgot when Jason was racist towards Davids housekeeper ( a hispanic lady ) they pranked her a lot, David was sweet to her but you could tell that Jasons energy around her was just weird.
As someone who started watching David's videos at a young age (14) I can 100% say that I was completely blinded and tricked into believing that everything wrong with david and the vlog squad was ok. There are TONS of young and impressionable kids and teens that watch David's videos and see the misogyny, see the homophobia, see the racism, etc and believe that it is ok because their idols act like it's ok when it is not. It is crazy how so many things were swept under the rug and hidden away from the public that when it finally came out no one could believe it because they couldnt believe that their idol would do something like that. Now do I believe that david and his friends are bad people? Yes and no. I believe that people can change but I also believe that some people are ignorant enough to ignore the importance of change. Scotty for example: He has a controversial past with saying some bad things but he took accountability and apologized. However David also has a controversial past and still hasnt really apologized for it. What's the point to this? Well Scotty has changed and David hasnt (well not that much anyway). I think that's why people are still so focused on "cancelling" David. Now I dont think that canceling works and I dont agree with cancel culture at all. They lose focus of what's important and try to cancel anyone in their sights. However I do think that David ABSOLUTELY should be held accountable for what he has done and what he continues to do. Like I said David has young and impressionable fans who are willing to look past his wrong doings simply because they dont know any better (which is exactly what I did). David needs to stop, hold himself accountable, and apologize for what he had done before he ends up causing more damage then he already has.
exactly!! It’s so normalized I used to laugh so hard at jokes directed towards women etc. and looking back I get so sad that I let so many jokes slide. and I know there are so many other young women that don’t realize how terrible it actually is !!!!!!!!
In the beginning, he would fat shame Gabbie as well, even though she wasn't fat! He has a lot of teenage girls that watch his content, that is really good for their body image. He miniplates his friends into doing whatever he wants to do. He got Corrina to get a "David's Vlogs," tattoo on her finger for money. He talk Todd and Corrina into letting him keep footage of her giving Todd a b.J. in the back of the Tesla. I could go on and on. I used to love David and his vlogs, but looking back now, I can see that he bullies people in order to get what he wants. It is all about him making money and he doesn't care who he hurts along the way.
this ! and even tho gabbie is problematic in her own right, he obviously majorly contributed to her body image issues that she continues to struggle with to this day
David Dobrik has serial killer eyes, he kinda reminds me of Ted Bundy. Guy seemingly has no conscience or sense of morality. I could see him letting a Vlog squad member/friend get gravely injured for content. Oh wait, he did that.
Dude that part of Trish arguing with David... it was cut right when David was SCREAMING at Trish. Because Trish said “it’s not a movie, it’s David’s Vlogs...” God, dude. I imagine he’s a true evil person always. You can see it shine through in his videos.. monster in real life.
First of all, I feel horrible for Trisha. I know Trisha isn't the best person but I can't imagine having to go through all of this crap and hearing people call you crazy. Second of all, David and Jason are disgusting and need to be held accountable for their actions. Like, Jason, you're in your forties. Stop hanging around kids. And David, learn to grow up and figure out what's not appropriate to do. Thirdly, I'll never understand the hype of David. The dude is obnoxious and acts like that annoying popular guy in high school.
idk ya know, you look at these people and you think “how could they do this stuff” then you see they have millions of dollars and your whole comment starts to become insignificant
Not to mention, that's the bass-ackwards example these days, shown by others, sponsors, platforms etc.. from day one. All is ok, looked past, ignored, not enforced, forgotten.. forgiven.. & all along too (what was there when signing contracts promoting these people.. & every day since) "unless". Rewarding, excusing, enabling bad behavior... (no matter who it impacts or harms, & regardless of boundaries, rules, laws, social norms or even basic human decency) Apparently ok, unless/until.. something finally impacts them directly & to point your $$$$ or own a$$ is on the line! Even then, minimize, manipulate, shift blame, lie.. make up.. whatever it takes to GET or get OUT of, period. No conscience required I guess. Again, sorry only for what is finally at risk... Wanting that to be protected, not remorseful or understanding about wrong doing itself or damage, sadly. Lacking all integrity, compassion, insight, moral compass, responsibility, maturity. That's the narcissistic example & toxic "anything goes as long as you get yours" behavior being taught. Greatly rewarded, too, phew!!! The example set for viewers, new creators & worse, young impressionable viewers who look up to them & will, undoubtedly, be following their lead. =/ As a mom, Is be SO disappointed if any of them, were my child. Then again, they'd know & do better!!!! One can't help but wonder if I actually did them a disservice; esp. these days. Having taught & instilled such strong moral responsibility & to their core... I fear even if right, they'll get eaten alive & clawed over for.. everything. Unwilling to take the short cuts, cheat, lie, do what it takes to even compete with the likes of... Jeez, now how fkd up is THAT?!??! smh. ~ Stay safe & be well.
Hearing you say "and i only have 2k subscribers" just makes me smile so widely seeing how much you've grown in a couple months! I hope you grow even more Hailey, good luck
i feel so sorry for the antonyans, he exploited his friends lower class family for views by fat-shaming and humiliating, but they couldn’t say much because of the benefits. i related sm to their family & watching those vlogs made me sick
Absolutely. David clearly had no respect for the Antonyans, Seth, Trisha, or even Jason. He uses his money and influence to manipulate the people around him into doing what he wants, then gives them crumbs of the money he makes and calls it generosity
Seriously. It's so fucked up they way he treated them and then washed all that away by giving things. I grew up very poor and I know my family would have done the same if it helped us get out of poverty a little bit. The prank he pulled on Nick Antonyan is horrible. I would have acted to be cool later on but would have been devastated inside. So terrible.
@@babigirl9111 yes, it's a terrible prank no matter how much Nick appeared okay with later on. He must have been so so disappointed and heartbroken when he realized it was all fake.
The fact that they thought it would be acceptable to mock Asian languages while taste-testing a Filipino snack 'Boy Bawang' (rough translation: Garlic Boy) shows how racially blind they are.
@@SpiderLily2024 i meant like. yeah east asian and south east asian languages are different i more meant op made it seem like filipinos arent asian tho
“Apologize. Unless he’s just not sorry” GIRL YES. David doesn’t give a fuck and has demonstrated those actions. He has never shown an act of sorrow... why? Bc he’s NOT SORRY. He’s about himself and only himself and did whatever to get to the top... which was at the expense of others ‘exploitation, racism, slut-shaming, SA, etc. Any normal person would have empathy NOT to do this, which is something David clearly doesn’t have. Also I think the giveaways are just a mask.
Why does he have to apologize publicly? Do you people just enjoy the power you get over making someone do something publicly? He already apologized to Seth privately and removed the videos. The dude doesn't have a time machine to go back and undo the prank now. Absurd forcing someone to do something
@@lastnamefirstname4678 EXACTLY you read my mind , he doesn’t owe anyone anything besides the person he may have hurt , idk why people think they are entitled to an apology for something that doesn’t truly affect them. It’s just a power play imo, it doesn’t matter how big his platform is bc he’s still a human being like the rest of us, and like the rest of us, we don’t just go and apologize to the world every time we fuck up lol, and neither does he
@@luiscastillo6191 exactly lmao and I'm glad someone else agrees with me. People just get a ego trip when they make someone as famous/popular as DD publicly apologize. Also I don't remember a SINGLE time where someone made a public apology and then the hate decreased IF ANYTHING the hate usually increases after a public apology. Scotty made an apology on Twitter about the video he made and the dude is getting shit on MORE now than when the video was up defending David. David already apologized to Seth and removed the video. He removed it as soon as Seth told him he wasn't comfortable. Literally nothing else he could do now
He needs to publically apologize because his videos ARE PUBLIC. He hasnt just hurt 1 person, he's hurt people who have seen his videos and he's made it seem ok to behave like this to millions of impressionable teenagers. If this was something that wasnt online and was only between a few friends, then yes your argument would make sense, but thats not the case here and im sorry you cant see that. Maybe some people are on an ego trip, but most are just calling ppl out on their bullshit like they should
about the kissing prank: it really doesn’t seem like seth gave david consent. even in the video where david asked, seth never said yes to the 2nd prank. he said that he couldn’t consent to something that he didn’t know was coming. and even if he did consent to the second (which he didn’t), the first prank was still SA. consent to the 3rd prank isn’t consent for everything else too. i feel like the entire vlog squad never really understood that.
u cant give consent when u dont know the details. like imagine asking a girl for consent and then months later forcing a situation on her because she vaguely agreed.
Thank you!!!! He literally never said yes, he said that he couldn’t consent to something that he didn’t know was going to happen. Like-that’s a rational, reasonable comment. He’s absolutely right and the fact that Scotty thinks he did something with that clip is absolutely wild.
@@poopfart65 yeah he did, but that doesn't mean that he gave his consent to the make out "pranks". It doesn't matter if he would give his consent to kiss Jason for a third "prank", because he didn't gave his consent before
@@poopfart65 did “that guy” agree to do the first and second one though? metaphor: if i take your watch once without permission, that’s theft. if i take your watch a second time without permission, that’s theft. and if you ask me if i want your watches the third time, and i take it, the first two times are still theft.
I don’t get the racist jokes. Like I don’t want to hear it was a different time. It was always garbage low end humor. ALWAYS. Just an apology is lame and the barest minimum of human decency. Various communities don’t need apologies. We need sincere changes in behaviors and honest acknowledgement that their platform is built on trash. Folks like Seth, poc’s who move in white spaces, thinking they can change racist behaviors by laughing along, are frustrating. Just don’t laugh in the first place. If you are the butt of the joke you are not the friend-you are the joke.
There's a difference between giving consent to be pranked with some sort of kissing, and giving consent to kiss one person and having them switched out to someone you haven't consented to kiss.
Do y’all remember how everyone was scared to prank David back and when Jeff did it w the Liza painting, the vlog squad didn’t find it funny bc it was David and it was “too much”?? Yeah, ok. They all sus.
yeahhh, it' honestly pretty cult-ish. david seems to be the boss of the group and it's sad because i really thought before their friendship were all genuine and stuff ://
yeah i remember watching that video and the prank david did on him was pretty brutal because he turned jeff’s home into a prison, which could be pretty traumatic keeping in mind jeff was in jail. And the way non of the vlog squad members reacted with laughter or something else was pretty weird and many people pointed that out in the comments. i think with that video i also stopped watching his videos because it was all so suspicious. ouh i also remember people breaking down their friendship wish at that time already showed that david did what he wanted without needing to think about the consequences
I used to watch Liza back in the day. Thought he seemed like an okay person whenever he showed up in her videos. But I never wanted to check out his stuff. I'm glad that I never did. But hey, at least you recognize that David is a shitty person and you don't watch his videos anymore.
That Scotty vid is so manipulative and specifically edited. Just like the stuff David had him include in the Hi vid. We have no idea what is bts and notice Scotty didn't have the footage of Seth giving specific consent or what the "3rd" agreement was about. It took 2 white men and another short carefully edited vid to invalidate a black man's feelings and experiences.
correction to your video: you say that voice message in Scotty’s video is Seth giving permission for the ape video. this is WRONG. this consent if for a THIRD kissing-prank. the ape was the SECOND one, and the old-man mask was the FIRST one.
His voice message said he was more open to it.. which implies that he previously wasnt all on board but did it to get in the vlog.. which is were their group dynamics is weird. No one even mentioned scotty sire yet he's posting a video and holds a conflict of interest as hes an investor in dobriks new app he also never addressed the 1st prank or the racial component to it. The entire situation is weird.
@@HootisaidAwhata Also idk if this was just me but there was this sense of pressure in that voicenote. Especially with that other text of "not gay, just don't care" like somebody had been implying that if he didn't do this it's because he's homophobic
@@kehkashanbhagat781 omg I thought I was the only one who thought so. It sounds like someone told him he was being homophobic about it, so he changed his mind
Here's the thing for me: even if Seth consented to this, it's gaybaiting and using the act of a man kissing a man as comedic, further stigmatizing a generation when it comes to how they view non-heterosexual intimacy as a joke or something that you do to embarrass someone. No matter if everyone was cool with it, it's not okay.
*an important point about the brandon calvillo situation:* the age of consent in california is 18. it does not matter if the minor “consented” or initiated. there shouldn’t have any type of sexual content between brandon and lacy until she turned 18
100% agree with you, just wanna say in terms of the severity of this in comparison, had this happened in Europe it wouldn't have been illegal, just saying in comparison with some of the other stuff mentioned in this video, this is not as bad. again, not excusing anything the law needs to be followed in the country you are in
The amount of anti-Asian comedy and sentiment is DISGUSTING. I cannot believe that people supported people like David Doobrick and Jason Rash who made a joke of Asian people. It’s no wonder why anti-Asian sentiment and humor is so normalized. It’s a zero tolerance for me and Asian Americans, so if you support them or overlook their racism to the Asian community, you’re part of the problem.
@@squishyfrog1447 yeah why don’t you speak out about the kids being bombed in Syria? How about the starving children in Africa? The people who suffer from poverty? Yeah let’s just focus ALL of our attention on Asian hate, when every other race goes through it. Last year it was Black lives, this year it’s Asians lives. How about we just accept that ALL lives matter? But instead you all would rather make this political, just like how Asian/blacks have been used for it. But okay
If you go out and meet someone with the intention of, let’s say - doing the devil’s tango that night - you’re giving consent to the person IN THAT MOMENT. If even three seconds later you decide - you know what, I don’t want to do this - YOU’RE RECINDING YOUR CONSENT. There is no way you can give consent five months before especially when the details of the situation are so vague. Also there is no non-consentual interactions like that. There’s making out with someone who you want to do it with and both parties are into it and then there’s sexual assault, let’s call it what it is.
exactly. how can you consent when you don’t even know what you’re consenting to and 5 months before it happens? like you can change consent at any point when it’s been that long. the manipulation is real.
I honestly feel bad for trisha. She made it obvious that she was uncomfortable about the things going on that Jason was doing yet he didn't change. Instead they broke up he damaged her career, her mental health, and literally got her put on suicide watch. Trisha has done things that I absolutely do not condone but making a platform talking about trisha in bad way influencing people to hate on trisha causing her to almost kill herself is something that shouldn't happen to anyone. Edit: I'm not saying trisha is a good person and we should all play a sympathy card for her, I'm just saying that for that particular incident, I feel bad. Hope that clears up any confusion (I'm not a trisha stan what so ever)
She suffered the consequenses of the "boy who cried wolfe" ... It's sad because if she wasn't Trisha people would have reconsidered. I could genuinly tell she was beyond upset ☹️
@@pumpkinpie3887 because all it took was talking about her once. And what they said hurt her enough for her to almost kill herself. It only took them one time to talk about her and then everybody hated her. They knew she had problems and instead of talking about the situation privately they talked about it publicly. Yeah trisha was the one that announced it to the public but Jason and David could've confirmed that they broke up, instead of saying that everything that Jason did wasn't enough and that she was selfish.
@@pumpkinpie3887 that’s a very logical thing to say, honestly, and works perfectly for sane people. however, trisha has made it very clear that she struggles with mental health severely and those choices do not come easy to her. since the age of six she’s been abused, she’s been through hell. many abused people are drawn back to abusers, it’s a coping mechanism to trick the mind that abuse is normal rather than accepting that they were abused. the entire situation with jason and david really did almost kill her, since she fell to really hard drugs (meth) and wrecked her car driving to jason’s house in a manic drug fueled episode. nobody would choose the mental stress she’s been through. bad things in her life happen, she’s not a bad person.
@@pumpkinpie3887 she was first diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia at age 9 and again at 12 i believe. it’s a very hard reality to grasp if you have no lived it. most of the people who heavily support trisha have diagnoses of their own and genuinely understand her, such as myself.. it’s not black & white or as simple as some people think it is. her explanations and her excuses and her reasoning for things are all over the place because her thoughts are all over the place, her mind is imbalanced and that’s not her choice. she’s has a history with substance abuse and addiction, starting a new medication can flat out be terrifying because any head change from a substance can trigger those addictive traits, which can lead to fatal actions. dealing w severe mental health is a nightmare, and she’s doing it with millions of people watching her. youtube is essentially her extended family and making videos is one of her coping mechanisms, it helps her not feel alone or trapped in her own mind. i’m sure she’s trying all types of different therapists to find a right one. she’s never been this attentive to her own mental health in her whole life and she’s never had as clear of any understanding of herself as she does now. it makes sense why details will change. she’s trying. all the while still dealing w her mental health. one day she could wake up ready to face the world w a smile on her face, very next day she can wake up with severe suicidal thoughts. it’s a rollercoaster she’s trying to sort out. it’s a shame you have doubt, but at the same time i definitely understand that it’s a complex thing to grasp. mental health generally isn’t explained to anybody, especially not severe cases.
Okay but that clip where David started yelling at trish and it just cuts off. That shows he doesn’t give af about accountability. He’s not open at all to hearing he’s wrong.
What Seth “gave consent” for is not even what actually happened. So that isn’t even consent cause he did not agree to what happened and you cannot consent to something that you didn’t know about. So David lied 🤥
i also think that his(seth) consent is coming from fear. Like, lets say someone grab your but without your consent one time and then they do it again a second time, if you give your consent to third time, then maybe that just you realizing that its going to happen no matter what, you would rather try to control it, and be aware of it, or get something out of it. Because at that point they cross a line twice, and you are just thinking to yourself, they are probebly going to it a third time, and trying to a least have some control on it or gain something from it. I dont think he gave consent a third time because he was happy, but more because he learned that his friend group are going to do it no matter what, and he rather earn money from it, if its going to happend.
Yess thats what i was thinking, it seems like the situation was already humiliating to him, so he tried to show that he was willing to do it to take control
I feel like all the problematic TH-camrs are what happened to the kids who used to bully us in school and haven’t grown out of what they did back then 😂
They deffo have that bully energy! They keep invalidating peoples feelings and saying that it's just a prank (it's never ok if it actually damages those who are getting pranked!). I have no idea why people watch those kind of people?!
@@SuicidalH some of them were even bullies themselves i think before their "fame" There are people with talent and knowledge and those pricks are still on Gross
Dude I love her videos so much! I can literally sit here and watch the whole video without getting bored, annoyed or irritated. And that’s very rare always get bored of peoples videos and close out of them! Please make more videos like these.
@@gracesottilo6272 it's literally that simple. And it's infuriating that some people are using that clip and Scott's dumbass video to brush off seths accusations
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*to be clear* : What seth said was NOT consent. You can’t consent to something 4 months in advance, especially not knowing what it is youre consenting too. what david (and scotty in his video) was doing, was trying to divert the conversation in hopes of getting some of the heat off of them and victim blaming seth in the process. The fact david hasn’t PROPERLY apologized for not only seths assault/trauma , but ALSO saying the n-word, homophobia slurs, etc. says a lot about his character and where his real values lie.
ALSO: T.W. at 26:06 of SA
@Hailey Elizabeth many TH-camr hate DAVID DOBRIK because he is getting rich, maybe right now DAVID DOBRIK is the only TH-camr successful and getting really rich, and many celebrities hang out with him, also he become an A list star in Hollywood right now, many TH-camr is getting really jealous, are you among them getting jealous on DAVID DOBRIK too.
All this people are just jealous because they will never be as famous or make as much money as he makes because he is smart. And knows how to make money being creative. Even the little views this people get it is because of him. Pretty sad.
Why do you pretend like you’ve never said the N word before... you might as well apologize for it as well
@@5-waymusic421 you do know people have a filter right? People have self control to not say slurs. Are you trying to admit that you yourself have said the n-word? If so I feel bad for you since you’re probably a 6 year old who cusses people out on video games or on TH-cam videos. Please get a life my man and do something productive :)
@@jimmyhauhnar7678 bro do you just stalk David’s channel? Have you not heard of pewdiepie? Or dream or anyone else? There are many you tubers who are more popular than David and are doing safe and not harmful things to get popular. David has to make racist jokes and rely on his friends to get any attention while other popular youtubers can just be funny or provide a good entertainment. Please stop stalking David cause I think you’re not paying attention in your classes considering your grammar. Good luck with your addiction ;)
- Emotionally manipulates people
- Buys them gifts as an apology.....
this is classic behavior of abusers
typical leos lmao
@@arlenestrait shut upppp
@@300zxss 😂😂😂
+exploiting people in exchange for money or clout
@@arlenestrait I don’t think an abusive personality is part of astrology 💀
she was more sorry about her unblended concealer than david has ever been lol
Why is this true though 💀✋🏾
I mean you’ve got a point 😔
Lol I was looking for this comment except I thought it would be about how her concealer looked like it was intentional and no one would notice if she didn’t say anything, but this joke actually turned out to be hilarious
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This comment is more real than he’s been with his fans 🤭💀
A lot of people don't realize that a lot of victims don't realize they're victims until way later, it takes a while to process especially when you don't want to believe you've been assaulted. They can seem like they're down for it at the moment but that doesn't mean they can't feel differently later on, and that doesn't make them a liar or a hypocrite.
So true!!
I wish the whole world could see this comment.
Yeah :/
thank you, I wish my 15y.o self could've seen this
“don’t know they’re victims until later” that’s what i said !
Who else randomly found one of her videos and ended up watching all of them
Me TOO- I ran across her Ace Family video and decided to check her out
Yup. Magic
MEEES
literally me right now
@@lelahill9778 same😂
the fact that you are dragging his whole career while casually doing your makeup is iconic
There’s a TH-cam channel called ‘Mystery and make up’ with host Bailey Sarian has millions of viewers who does same thing @BaileySarian
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You do know this is all scripted except the putting on makeup. She has already done the research
@@Cris_is_wicked everyone knows this? you cant do research on the spot for 54 minutes. she dug and its still iconic
@@angel-by8lk well I would hope so that's pretty obvious
about David not apologising: the one time he DID apologise (for native American stuff) he said “to those who got offended, im sorry you got offended, and to those who weren’t offended, im sorry THEY got offended” showing that he truely has no remorse/little empathy. You’re correct, he’s not apologising because he’s NOT sorry.
he TRUELY seemed more upset that he had to take his video down as a result of being called out, rather than the fact that ppl were offended.
Yes I remember him saying that .....tacky af like not everything is a damn bit or a joke
I stopped watching him after that. The whole vlog squad is just a glamorised frathouse with toxic, racist, nonconsensual culture.
Thats gross ew😐
That was so disgusting I'm speechless. Awful, vile stuff. How he was able to say that without an ounce of irony is insane to me
honestly, Im happy i never watched him. people used to hype him up but his content was never for me. now knowing about all of this....yea
i feel like i’m the only person in the world who never watched him so hearing all of this is so interesting
same, I was subscribed to him for like a week because I loved Lizza and they were dating but I immediately disliked him and his content so I unsubscribed
SAME
Same
Same I never did either
I never did either lol...not you thinking a whole ass population watched someone but you...youre not special
i just..... im EXHAUSTED with these influencers casually normalizing having a "racist phase".. that's NEVER ok. its a never ending cycle, racist past gets brought up, shitty apology written on notes app is published to social media to their primarily white audience (who isn't the audience that should be accepting it) forgives them, everything is forgotten. its disgusting and lacks accountability.
as a white person, i legit hate when i see white people accepting racist apology’s, like no. we aren’t the group that was hurt, we don’t get to decide if the apology is acceptable. also, like ma’am, why are racist phases all of a sudden a normal thing now 🤡
yeah I agree, I mean honestly I still just don’t understand how people like onlyy really give David shit up to this point (which he does deserve) for this and it feels like Liza just put out a statement from a lawyer, some late activism, and has gone unscathed like she never made fun of different cultures, languages, groups of marginalized people. THEY ARE BOTH GUILTY & there old content is gross.. I just don’t get it 🤨🧐🧐 you know
@@Bellaaaaaaaxxo honestly you're absolutely right. idk why she's excused
@@michaeljackson2928 luv the sense you have
it's almost become normalised?! they act like everyone went thru a racist phase. like, I've never been racist, my friends haven't ever been racist, it's not normal!
Jason Nash is SO fucking weird. I can’t imagine being almost 50 and being a yes man to an early 20 something year old.
@cozyw of course he’s not gonna trash David. David is Jason’s meal ticket and seems to be just as bad of a person as David, if not worse.
But yeah dude. That’s the weird part. Why as an almost 50 year old are you friends with an early 20 something year old in the first place? Even weirder, why are you letting an early 20 something year old boss you around like you’re his henchman? I’m 25, I don’t want to hang out with a 50 year old dude that surrounds himself with people half his age. That shit is weird. The dude would’ve been almost my age while David was a baby
$$$$
it's all about the money. it's like a sugar daddy/sugar baby situation but in reverse. It's the young kid who is paying the older man.
He's been a predator those kids are just gonna find out the Hard Way.
mans is getting a bag, cant say much else
The biggest flex I can say is that I've never watched David in my life
That make two of us
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Exactly. But I did watch Liza Koshy. Not sure of any scandals about her. Either way, I don't watch the whole vlog squad scene anymore.
Sameee
Same high fives all around
Peer pressure is real and you can see it in this case. Seth, Corinna, Trisha, etc were victims of pressuring. If there is a camera in your face and group of people that pressure you into embarrassing yourself, you are more than likely going to succumb to that pressure. You would be willing to take more shit bc of the benefits. David used his clout and power to belittle his friends. He is not a nice guy. He knew they were needy of money, fame, etc and used that to his advantage.
That's still on them the pressure or not, they still have the free will to say no.
@@darthrevan2957 sure, but that's not a realistic psychological explanation for reality. Humans very rarely stray off track, it takes a lot of cognitive dissonance to do something like that. You have to remember that free will isn't always realistic when relationships, friendships, and money are involved in a lot of cases, because we as humans are flawed and don't want to mess with our ego. That is why peer pressure is SO dangerous and destructive.
@@maddie9655 this is very true, and I think that comes from the negative impact of MSM and what we're made to believe. Social norms I believe go hand in hand with peer pressure tbh. Whether it's accepted or not.
@@maddie9655 they agree because they’re just playing characters
@@maddie9655 so if I was peer pressured into stab someone I would do it?
David saying “I got away with it” after saying the n word in front of black people just shows he knew what he was doing was wrong
yeah then saying it was a "different time" like it was the 1940s or something
honestly, the thing that shocked me the most of this whole video what the moment when you said you said you had 3k subs when you uploaded this. watched the whole thing, so good.
Omg same!!!!
3k subscribers 2 weeks ago and now over 50k!
@@goldmourn yeah she’s gonna be big she’s good at this. Real research, real dedication to the story.
I subbed coz i appreciate it. Its all a bit confusing to me in the UK lol
She actually said 2k subscribers! I literally was reading your comment right before she said it lol
No, I'm sorry, but like getting consent randomly 5 months prior does not mean you have consent forever. Seth gave consent that day to make out with Corinna, not Jason. Period. He's allowed to feel violated and the amount of victim blaming coming from Scotty's video is gross.
literally they act like people can’t change their minds
It'd be like if I accept an offer for a glass of wine when I visit a friend. I consented to that glass in that moment, but it doesn't mean I want refills or would want wine the next time I visit.
@@TuesdaysArt he asked for consent to do it at a later time when Seth would not be expecting it. Your analogy does not hold true to the facts at all.
@@wastedtalent1625 To correct my analogy a bit, it'd be like if a friend offered to take me to a bar sometime and I agree to it...but then the friend takes me to the bar when I don't expect it and am not in the mood to go.
I get it it. But.... he didn’t just give consent he asked to be in a kissing video. Like he literally asked. But the one where korena and Jason switch wasn’t okay the first time he asked to do it.
The fact that Jason is 47 always weirded me out. My parents are a few years older and that’s essentially them being obsessed with my older brother’s friends.
When Trisha was talking to David about the kissing prank he literally said “Come on it’s Seth” Like wtf does that mean? Just because it’s Seth it’s not stupid? That’s so disrespectful
i think they just assumed she was jealous because she was threatened by Seth stealing her man, as if there isn't other reasons this would make her uncomfortable
@@reilly4678 ohh that makes sense
Like really i gotta hand it to trisha...she may be a fucking nut but she is honest sometimes and she won't lie when it comes to exposing people.
@@nijohn12
right as much as i don’t like trisha she makes sense sometimes when it comes to exposing people
@@nijohn12 i still think she’s a smart troll who’s just realizing that she shouldn’t do that troll stuff anymore
The thumbnails switching from gabby to Liza to Corina shows how manipulative he is. He’s exploiting all of his female friends for views, fame and money. It’s disgusting and I’m so grossed out that I hadn’t noticed before.
And a lot s/l/u/t shaming along the way. I've seen a lot of videos of him and s/lu/t shaming is very prevalent.
I can't believe how much they had to endure.
@@justthetruth3950 and I’m sure there was even more that went on behind the scenes too.
And when it wasn't Corina it was Trisha
You forgot trishia !!
He was a horrible influence on her
I feel like we aren't focusing enough on the "ape" portion of the prank as well. Just repulsive amounts of racism.
I think she made this and uploaded it BEFORE the article came out. I’m not 100% positive but I’m pretty sure.
Its painful to see casual racism. And its obvious it can't be a joke if its that constant. They either rely on it for the clicks. Or they are just fucked. I vote both personally.
i was just about to say
Literally like it’s blatantly racist that they chose to use apes in particular
@@darkdemonqueen it’s still horribly wrong
i went to ucla 2016-2020 -- david dobrik would come to frat row on thursdays (the day most frat parties were held) and film drunk girls making out with his friends. it always rubbed me the wrong way, it felt like he was coming to frat row specifically to find drunk girls to film. friends of mine who liked his content told me i was overreacting but i guess time proved me right
It's also weird he's sober and just profits off drunk dumb people and brings them to his house to get them wasted and film them...
Yes it did! Keep up that self respect and stay woke!
also there must be a pretty significant age gap between the vlog squad dude bro's and the college girls right? probably legal, but not very moral in my opinion
He is literally just Jake Paul but with a quirky soft boi candy coating.
Jake pauls is a good person compared to david at this point 😭😭
@@asiatriplett5495 Nooo lets not forget who Jake Paul is and how much of a scumbag he is just because he's been relatively quiet for awhile and we've uncovered new scumbags in the process. It's like people trying to say Trish isn't a scumbag just because she was a victim in this particular situation. Don't let yourself forget all the horrible shit people have done just because you get distracted. Don't let them off that easy.
He is an asshole he just dosent look like one because he has the I live with my mother and go to church vibes
@@asiatriplett5495 nah, definitely not💀
@@asiatriplett5495 oh absolutely not
Being pressured into "consenting" ISN'T CONSENT!!
The people in these videos choose to be in them. . . Keep that in mind
@@agustinzarate641 So if someone gets raped at a party because they chose to be at the party there at fault
@@VOID-gz6jk No I wasn't condemning rape, I was simply addressing the pranks and the jokes. Thank you for your civility! It's important to have mature discussions about this.
@@agustinzarate641 I understand where you’re coming from but they also make these decisions to promote their career and that’s not ok. like Megan fox she did not always speak up about the in-appropriate and demeaning situations she was in because she needed a job and wanted to promote her career. And these were people that they trusted and assumed were their friends so you don’t immediately think that your friend is going to humiliate you in front of millions of people and that’s what he did
@@VOID-gz6jk I agree with you
i honestly feel bad for jason’s kids. like he is so childish and all his kids friends might have seen those videos and honestly i would be so embarrassed because he is literally a child. and trish doesn’t make it any better.
That’s what I thought too. Poor them~
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i always felt so bad for them having to go with their dad who was too focused around a bunch of 20 years old instead of hanging with his kids
Wdym trish doesn’t make it better
@@3llyss3 trish is the best.
Cancel culture is not toxic when it comes to DD & his flunkies. They should all be de-platformed asap.
Totally agree. Love her videos but disagree with her on that.
I respect your opinion. But Canceled culture is very toxic because people are getting canceled for anything. FOR ANYTHING. and it doesn’t teach people anything they get canceled make a crying sorry video and come back and do it again
Alexis Shelstrom nobody even really gets cancelled. They just stay off social media for a few months or days then they come back🤷🏽♀️
@Nobody Nobody even he stayed successful. go right now to his socials. he still has followers. hes not canceled.
@Mary B theres some girl who got cancelled ( she was like a boxer i think ). if i remember it ruined her career and she ended up killing herself
Let me make this clear: giving consent for something 5 months in advance, when you don't know when or under what circumstances it's actually going to happen is NOT proper consent. It is NOT good enough. And the fact that David doesn't understand that is a BIG red flag and cause for concern.
Would u care to elaborate on that? I didn't quite understand it bcuz it was quite clear that Seth was okay w kissing Jason again --since he was comfortable enough w his sexuality --so that he cud get some clout. Thats not enough??
@@farahnoorjahan2658 he didn’t know that he was going to be making out with a grown ass man. he said “oh yeah would you be comfortable with us trying to prank you with Jason again” literally FIVE MONTHS before, he said he felt pressured into because David gaslights people if they don’t agree to be the subject of racist/discriminating jokes. That’s not consent, he did not consent t being sexually harassed that night or ever properly. Consent is tricky in law etc because it’s hard to define, but this definitely wasn’t consent
@@farahnoorjahan2658 it doesn't count as consent because at the time, five months prior to the actual event, he did not know what he was consenting to. He couldn't have known the conditions in which the "prank" was going to happen.
And when it did happen, it is very clear that Seth thought he was kissing Corinna, and had no clue that it was really Jason. At that time he consented to getting with Corinna, but they couldn't have know whether he wouldn't have consented to kissing Jason at that point.
@@alicehillman Yeah theyre are a couple of vids here on YT that talk about how the VLOG squad was baiscally a cult. So I could def see people in that enviroment feeling pressured to go along with it
Oo its not the onle red fleg
Is it just me, or is being a straight white man, and surrounding yourself with people from marginalized groups and then proceeding to make jokes about the reasons they are marginalized, literally milking then for content, fame and money, just a bit fucking weird? Like what a power trip, it makes me really uncomfortable honestly
Exactly
On point there. it's really disturbing.
On point
You hit the nail on the head. I really don’t get how it why he’s been famous.
It’s extremely normalized. Ask any poc who went to a predom white school. It scars you for life
THATS WHY HE HAD SCOTTY DO IT BECAUSE BIG NICK AND H3 SAID HE WAS A GOOD GUY! THATS WHY DAVID PICKED SCOTTY TO TRY TO DISCREDIT SETH THATS WHY SCOTTY BROUGHT UP THE NUDE OF THAT CHICK SAYING THE N WORD BEING SHARED.
I DIDNT EVEN THINK OF THA- YOUR MIND.
Nobody is adding that he did blur it out and only posted it because of the slur. It was never about the po in it. But I felt like they all tried to deviate from the situation by making it about him sharing that video
Can i screenshot this ??
booost
@@maggiemaketela4037 why are you asking permission loool
the thing that trish hated about the threesome with tana jokes was the fact that tana was 19!!!! and jason was like 40 and it made him look (and be lmao) like a creep
Scotty: David wouldn’t do it if he said no
Emma Chamberlain: I have a caterpillar phobia
David: **puts caterpillars on Emma anyways w/o her knowing**
and in the video she even said “just tell me it isn’t a caterpillar” like she probably would’ve preferred a big snake over caterpillars because that’s her PHOBIA
Fr tho that was fucked
I thought about this the second he said David would never. Like Emma literally asked him for reassurance it wasn’t caterpillars but he did it anyway.
Thaaaaank you!!! I was starting to think I was the only one that thou that was hella fucked up. And how they just laughing and belittling her fears as she’s crying... I’m like wtf. How is this funny ?
@@0livia-1104 does anybody ever consider these skits are discussed prior and her saying she hates caterpillars was something they agreed to say to make the video better?
I always felt bad for Corrina and Gabbie, Trish on the vlogs. They were so uncomfortable everytime. They were basically bullied and David shared the things they were uncomfortable with.
Yet everyone trushed Gabbie a couple of years back. Everybody said that she used David , she was obsessed with him etc
Huh? were we seeing the same vids? Gabbie & Trisha are toxic af hence why they cant keep a friendship. Corrina is still friends with david and wenr along with her sexual character. To this day she openly makes sexual tiktoks.
@@robertc6293 there's a difference with sexualizing yourself in your own terms when it's your choice.. VS people making offensive comments and sexualizing you to embarrass you or make money from u
@@DeanithForeverYoung how do you 100% know if it was on Corrina’s own terms or not? She has known david one of the longest minus natalie. If she didnt want to do something she would have said. You cant make every women that interacts with David an automatic victim.
@@robertc6293 no but you can point out how he exploited corrina in exchange for money when she wasnt making good money. he offered her 200$ to get a tatoo that said ‘davids vlogs’ and she was poor so she was gonna take it lmao. she made the decision but it’s still a d!ck move when you could just give her the 200.
“To those that got offended, I’m sorry you got offended. And to those who weren’t offended, I’m sorry they did.” - David Dobrik
(Regarding making fun of Native Americans)
NO WAY HE SAID THAT!?!?!?!? WTF
Wait is that real?
Yes!!! He said exactly that
@@khalilkhan051797 oh lord
Yikes, that's gross
You apologizing for not blending your concealer is more genuine than David apologizing for anything he’s done
I never understood the hype about him, now I actually think most of the influencers are like this behind the scenes
From I never watched his videos but my friend did and I never understood why... Like no offense to the ypipo but he's just a mediocre white man
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It's definitely concerning
@@Annuii.i exactly!!
They are
Seth actually said that it didn’t really hit him until he was in quarantine and somebody had mentioned to him that he was actually sexually assaulted. he had never thought of it in that way until that moment & it doesn’t matter how much time is gone by it doesn’t even matter what happened in the moment! what matters is the way that it makes him feel and he’s NOT OK with it‼️ there are a lot of sexual assault victims that suppress or don’t even realize that it has happened to them until later on and something triggers it & it’s never ok. NEVER‼️
Tbh! Most of us don't realize till later
This was literally me IN QUARANTINE. This same thing happened to me this past year!! i hate people excusing this behavior. Thank you for bringing up this point
This is true. I remember in college a guy I was chatting with (barely knew him, just saw him as an acquaintance) randomly kissed me. No one else was around. He just quickly moved in. I was stunned, frozen in my spot and I couldn’t wrap my head around what just happened. It was so quick, I didn’t know how to respond and I don’t remember how I responded. I’ve completely forgotten about it and haven’t thought of it since, until I learned last year - it was like it randomly hit me like a suppressed memory - that I had been SA. What I’ve learned is I’m a victim of SA. Fvck that guy.
This! We say it to women coming fwd all the time. It blows my mind that now it's a Black man ppl don't remember this. Nor do ppl understand the power imbalance.
@@emkiris tf is wrong with everyone
Can y’all notice a trend? All his victims are minorities and women, misogyny is the worst. David needs to take accountability and explain himself 🙄
@@gl4ssxd “they’re not victims”* The fact that you can’t even write a coherent sentence explains why you would be defending David. The “victims” of David’s “pranks” and insensitive comments are not at fault here. They signed up to get recognition from David’s vlogs, not to be attacked with racist, sexist jokes. They’re not pushing the blame on anyone. No one is trying to cancel David forever, they’re trying to make him take accountability instead of sweeping this under the rug, just like all of his past controversies. Make it make sense.
@@gl4ssxd
1. They agreed to be in a video not to be berated
2. The entire end of your comment is just you begging for people not to respond, if you can't handle people responding dont comment
3. The fact that you are begging people not to respond shows your lack of confidence and truth in what you are saying
Bro David is a literal immigrant minority, just because his parents world their asses off for David to have a good life, yes David has done some bad things and he should be held accountable, but like no one would be friends with him if the stuff be posted back then was really “that bad” especially when most of the people “victims” ask or want to be on the videos, he’s a entertainer who him, his friends, and his fans know he does stupid things for vlogs, they all know he does pranks, it’s so dumb that now pranks and jokes to his own friends aren’t even allowed anymore. If they are uncomfortable, they should speak out right after not years after when David is actually blowing up. David does so much for his friends and they’re family in a way. Insults and jabs at each other are normal. If you really think all this is him REALLY hurting others, then consider canceling every comedian who had friends of other races because they joke about each other but it’s all good in the end because they’re in the same entertainer scene, in the comedy scene, you trying to take an insult that David has said to many of his friends, minorities or not, you can’t leave out the insults he dishes out on the people who aren’t of color. They all make fun of each other and just because David is the most popular of them all, it shouldn’t mean that all of his jokes and pranks a crime, even when he wasn’t as popular he would make a few jokes to people much bigger than him. Like cmon.
@@jasoncruz9413
1. Him being an immigrant doesn't mean he is free from criticism. Him being an immigrant doesn't mane he is allowed to belittle different races and in actuality it means nothing in this discussion.
2. As mentioned in the video many people that later spoke up against him felt as though they couldn't speak out without getting hate, which was proven to be true. You couldn't say hey bro I dont like that if you know that your entire platform would turn against you. What you are trying to do is make it seem like its just goofing between to friends, but that is not the case they were in front of millions of people so the victims were forced into silenced or risked social exile.
3. You do not have the right to tell someone when they are meant to speak up. People will speak up when they feel safe, not when its convenient to you.
4. I dont know what type of family situation you have but if my sister called me a slur i wouldn't laugh, if my brother used a common stereotype agaisnt me I wouldn't laugh. Perhaps racism, sexism, and homophobia is cool in you house but that is not universal so comparing David's friendships to a family is odd and tone deaf co sidering the number of people saying how toxic it was.
5. Not every other comedian has said racial slurs as a punchline, or sexually assaulted a friend as a prank. So no thats not the comedian scene.
6. David has done awful things and should be held accountable for it, as simple as that.
@@xxcallmeniaxx3272 Period.
I want to bring up the fact that we can feel bad for the way Trisha was treated AND acknowledge her terrible problem with cultural appropriation and being very harmful to almost every minority group in existence.
Anyways- loved the vid❤️
Exactly! Same with Gabby
Harmful to minority groups? Idk about that considering these people are here highly irrelevant to most regular ppl in the world
Never understood why people even liked david’s content. Never saw the appeal. Plus, the only reason his friends are vouching for him is because he went around buying them things. So i feel like they are only vouching for him because they are obligated to because of things he bought them.
exactly!
Are you above 14? That may be why. He mainly appeals to kids. His video style is typically the format that kids enjoy and adults are annoyed by.
cuz people at that time could actually take a joke and wouldn’t get offended by anything and everything
@@arianaclitan5259 ugh another of David blind stan, he is not different than Jake and Shane
I never understood either. Ive never watched his videos but so many people i know watch him and I have no idea why
i know jonah isn't the best person but i always remember the "prank" when they faked an audition with seth rogen for him and when it was revealed to be a "joke" he looked so devastated. david got a load of hate for it but once again all his friends like zane, heath etc. crawled out the woodwork to defend him and say that he knew what he was getting into by being in their friend group. ever since that video david dobrik just seemed like the embodiment of pure evil to me lol
Yes I rmemeber this too and I honestly really dislike Jonah but this did make me feel bad
Yess I stopped watching him after that. So awful
his real name is actually Nick, not Jonah! David calls him Jonah because he says Nick reminds him of Jonah Hill because of his weight 😐🙃😑
ive always felt like Nick(Jonah) is genuinely such a pure soul, and David (& the group) have never treated him and his family right. there have been soooo many instances over the years of David treating him & his family like they're second class citizens and it hurts my heart so much because they don't deserve that shit and it's so obvious that they are genuinely good people. 😭😭
Correct! & the sad truth is that Jonah nor his family will ever speak up about it because of all the things David has gifted that family.
so trueeee
Really random but I’m honored that she mentioned the golden trio. KURTIS CONNER, DREW GOODEN AND DANNY GONZALEZ
we love to see it
Why did you say Danny Gonzalez twice?
what do you mean trio? the last two are clearly the same person
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT WHEN SHE MENTIONED THEM! but why did you mention danny twice-
I love y’alls comments
seth making such an effort to talk about his experience, SA and consent only to go share revenge porn of erin without her consent really rubbed me the wrong way. like SERIOUSLY i want to root for him and i will always believe the victim but there's something about that whole situation that makes me feel really icky.
that was one of the most shocking things in this video. Seth contradicted his self like crazy and became an unreliable source to me because that was out of pocket and more than disrespectful
@@kaylenkamiyah694 THAT was the most shocking thing to you from that whole video?!?!THAT was disrespectful yeah it was but what about David and his whole crew and ALL the things they did...wasn’t that disrespectful...?
@@livvyzonline2190 In the video Seth literally knew what the prank was and asked for it again. I’m confused how he’s a victim??????????????
@@sweetzs100 At what point in time did I say Seth was a victim?!?!? Plz read before u respond to my comment 😘
@@sweetzs100 he really wasn’t. He’s a liar, and he’s worse then David and Jason for pranking him by releasing revenge *orn.
even tho trisha is problematic, she knew that what they were doing was wrong
Yes I like how she’s been consistent in her morals ever since she made some of her worst mistakes at the beginning of her youtube career. I truly feel like she’s changed and I’m proud of the way she defended Seth back even when there was nothing to gain
@@blkbarbie2671 Girl wuuut? Trish is still as problematic as ever. She has had behavior in very recent years that is awful.. Did you forget the extremely harmful stunt she pulled about D.I.D.?? Not to mention the shit load of other ignorant things shes said on the Frenemies podcast and her own channel... and thats the tip of the iceberg. Her ignorance and lies do A LOT Of damage for which she hasn't really apologized.. I believe her when she says that Jason and the vlog squad hurt her and mistreated her.. but I have given this girl a pass for so many other lies (just to have her lie for attention all over again) that I have a really hard time believing anything else she says and I most definitely wouldn't say she's changed for the better. There was evidence to back up her claims this time, but other than that I just wouldn't trust her word alone.
You know you’ve got a problem when even Trisha can tell that you’re being problematic
@@Shmaples Has she even apologized for the things she said to Dissociadid? I'm glad she has been changing for the better but she needs to apologize as well..
@@Shmaples I love how you haven’t given one example of why she’s so bad
what shook me the most is that no one believes trisha paytas when she talked about this stuff instead people just thought it was just her trying to stay relevant but it all turns out to be true.
Sadly so typical for outspoken women.
she is... pretty toxic....
Yah everyone was saying Trish was mental.. turns out she was right lol
What’s even more sad is that when she was crying, you could tell that she was genuinely hurt.
@@minerbasanchez6986 it’s really hard when you know you are speaking the truth yet being labeled crazy or dramatic. Definitely been there. Luckily the truth does tend to come out in the end. I have learned that it is way better to risk looking crazy telling the truth if it means protecting other women!
Bish! You need to be like a Reporter. Your style is extremely your own and definitely doesn't ever feel to judged and doesn't feel like a call to cancel. Just facts of interesting detail and my girl find this makeup interesting during the vid. Good shit.
This is where I disagree. This format was created by Bailey Sarian and although it's about different topics it's definitely not her own style overall.
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@@tonitaylorr Yes, credit where credit is due. But hailey does a great job too.
@@GarnetsWeb I never said she didn’t do a great job. However it’s not a format that she created and that also needs to be acknowledged.
@@tonitaylorr Yeah, I was just agreeing with you 😂
The whole people calling Seth ape and making ape noises in the street reminds me exactly of how the town treats Sandy in the Squirrel Jokes episode of Spongebob. Don't say harmful things to others and play them off as jokes. The stupid people will think it's okay to repeat those things and sadly we have too many stupid people.
This is why I always trust my gut. I never liked David or thought he was a sweet heart cuz of the people he associated himself with. Your the company that you keep
I never watched him because he just never seemed funny good thing though
Yes, so true! But can we just talk about how gorgeous your makeup is in your profile picture like wow what a beauty
@@milsiu your comment is so beautiful
@@notwerkinginthishouse8634 omg what? 🥺 i was literally just telling the truth but thank you thats so sweet 💛🥺
I never watched him or knew anything about him. But I did see a few posts/photos of him in some memes or fan posts few years back. As soon as I saw his face, I got a feeling that this guy is a douchebag.
It’s seeing Liza K the “ brown girl “ going along with the racist jokes 🤐
literally like girl😕
Well, she always rubbed me the wrong way. I knew one day all of tjis would crumble down.
Don't drag liza!
And she isn’t even black.
@Chell Belle and an Arab thing
David Dobrik isn't funny in his own right. He has piggy backed his entire career off of other people's jokes and humiliation
So true! Carly and Erin were the only ones who never put people down. Zane and Heath were funny but could be 🥴 at times.
@@emalee. Zane and heath are the only funny ones imo
100% 💯
And he is on the anti-bullying tour, tf
Exactly! We don’t watch the blogs for David. We watch for all the other people.
How can they add “Seth clearly giving consent” as a lower third, when Seth is literally not consent. He very clearly says “how can I consent to something that I don’t know what’s going to happen” THAT IS NOT CONSENT.
And even if he said yes, he can always take that consent back at any point. Which he probably did and you used the 4 months old consent text instead. These people are disgusting. I can only IMAGINE how they treat women or strangers. It’s scary.
Looks like the algorithm has taken hold. This boy is fucked now.
Nah
Hopefully.
cancel culture has it's ways (and it's fucked up)
fr
Lol
always had mixed feelings about Trisha but regardless, the clip of her upset about the threesome is heartbreaking.
Also this Jason guy is like 50 and wanted to have a threesome with a 19 year old?? what the actual fuck
@@xcobmi He’s hanging out with people young enough to be his children and has children himself... major red flag in and of itself.
I don't really like trisha but the clip is heartbreaking and people shouldn't have to go through that even if I don't like them
You mean when david brought up tana and a threesom on video in front of her to jason and she took off all of her clothes on camera so he couldnt use the video,
Except he just blurred her nudity out and did it anyway while calling her crazy and laughing the whole time?
Yeah...that was messed up.
He finally took it down but she showed it (blurred out of course) on frenemies #26 @10:50
Its not cancel culture when people are dealing with the consequences of their actions
exactly.
yes. the part of cancel culture that is toxic is when people go on a hate raid without listening to both sides of the story [referring to the james/tati & benji/jorge thing]. but there are people who deserve to be ‘cancelled’ and deplatformed like sh*ne d*wson, lopez brothers, etc.
U can do mental gymnastics all u want but it’s still cancel culture which literally doesn’t solve anything
@@jacka5101 it solves the problem of racists, homophobes, and other predators who seek to use their platform to further an agenda of hate. "cancel culture" is a right wing talking point used to obfuscate the actions of public figures who get caught doing something vile to society. Don't fall for it. You're better than that.
@@amorantoboy exactly! I've stopped giving attention to Shane and Jeffrey, didn't buy merch and overall feel better that I'm not supporting him anymore. If people know what they've done and still continue to support them, then they're just as trash as he is.
Jason Nash has big "How do you do, fellow kids?" energy
More like creepy uncle energy 😬
He’s always creeped me our
@@multi__simp2391 he's a creepy millionaire so stay mad😹😹
You’re so well spoken and this video is so well put together. Good job girly, def subscribing and will be keeping up as much as possible. Looking forward to more content like this:)
Totally agree with this!
Accidentally disliked the comment bc I’m dumb lmao but so true I love this content
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Why is Scott even protecting David literally all David does is bully him and saying everybody hates him
Manipulation
Because Scott and all these other people in his group get paid through David one way or another. Even if David isn't paying them directly, which he is, they get exposure through him. Why wouldn't these kids who need/want money not protect their meal ticket?
@Nessa scott’s role in the vlogs is the depressed one that’s rarely entertaining enough to be in the vlogs... david loves scotty like david loves seth & nick
Maybe its because they can take a joke
Scott invested money in David's app buisness. So yea he is financially tied to David and literally can't afford for David to gain "bad press".
This is just TH-cam. Just imagine what goes on in Hollywood behind closed doors.
Yea
Yes! Just so happens that this people are content creators and their life is based on social media so it is easy to figure things out. Cannot imagine what goes on hollywood. Not many people are willing to talk
I legit groan whenever my old favorite movies flash Weinstein’s producers credit.... every time I find something out it ruins my movies 😕
Except Hollywood has actual talented people also, who work hard to create something with talent and skills.
LMAO
The thing about these notes app apologies is that I'm certain most of these celebrities aren't even writing it themselves so there's no way for us, the audience/fans, to know how sincere they are and if they really have learnt from their mistakes and have changed.
I never liked him and people never understood why i didn't. For me it was always obvious that one day his friends will endup tired of being used by Dobrik as entertainment and then being silenced with luxurious gifts.
I would watxh the videos and just be like “…can u imagine how fuckinf tiring it would be to their friend” like I would never truly feel comfortable or even be able to share like the tiniest detail of my personal life bc it would just be the butt of the joke
@@madisondaniel4124 exactly! Everything to him was a reason of mockery.
Yea, I never liked him. I even went and clicked I don't like this creator when his videos are in recommended. He just reminds me of this douchebag person who is liked by everybody and gets a pass by being a jerk insulting his friends and saying it's just a joke. Ew
As a person who really did enjoy David Dobrik and his content this is just pissing me off. Like at one point his content was such an inspiration to me that I wanted to be a content creator like him, and watching this video and realizing what was out into my head that was disguised as “comedy” just doesn’t sit right with me. I honestly don’t think any of them should be forgiven, like it’s just ridiculous.
Yea same, my roommates tried to get me to watch him because they loved him but I just couldn't get into it
I literally always hated the way they thought of women. It’s disgusting
ikr
I used to watch them a lot but I was young and knew most things I shouldn’t and I did this the things they did were odd. It made me uncomfortable even though I was 6 and it’s just disgusting because I used to live watching them even though I felt uncomfortable with what they did because I knew it was sus
@@ted4049 I’m so sad you had to watch that at 6 years old baby
What they do?
@@ted4049 jesus 6 ? why do kids even have phones this young lol it’s not safe .
I just sleep so well at night knowing I was never a david dobrik stan
My biggest problem is like Seth having had a real SA experience and it’s David’s fault AND also have done not good things. I’ve known about Seth reposting the Revenge P0 for awhile and I still support him speaking up. 2 wrongs don’t make a right. Trisha has had a really hard life but she has also done some shitty things but that doesn’t mean she hasn’t gone through real shit.
also, how seth reacted to the pranks (then and now) is sorta irrelevant. for the first prank David didn’t KNOW how seth would react, yet still went ahead with it.
@@fijiapples5122 he said some lies tho, like his parents were disgusted by it but in older podcast said his mom busted laughing with the bit but hey what do i know, American teens know better what's the truth 😂
@@krisstr5141 but the thing is, beyond all their wrong doings... Dobrik waa still reponsable for uploading a video of Se*ual Assau*t to millions of people to see on youtube. A bunch, probably, impresionable teens that understood that this kind of "prank" is okay.
Yes it reminds me of the people that will go back into someone's history to see if they were arrested in the past when a cop murders them. Like it justifies it because they did a crime in the past. 😒 Same energy.
The fact is, those are two separate incidents. Just like people bringing up random issues Trisha had in the past, that doesn’t excuse DAVIDS wrongs.
What he said to gabby was so terrible and I’m not even 5 minutes in.
It's a joke ducking snowflake
@@isaacmartinez9451 but what if your a skinny guy and a girl made a joke about him looking like a twig/kid/etc. Goes both ways.
@@hannahwillis9838 Idk cause I'm fat but I have ppl all the time including some girls make fun of my weight I laugh it all y'all making my generation look bad I swear
@@isaacmartinez9451 not everyone is like you :) that just means that your weight doesnt affect you so ofc you dont mind jokes about it gosh
@@iasminanov2118 snowflake ❄️
The problem with David and his friends is that they literally can never say anything bad about him. He has given all of them hundreds of thousands of dollars in gifts, cars, trips or just plain cash. They make jokes about David owning them but he has subconsciously bought their loyalty for life no matter what and I don’t think they even realize it honestly.
That’s true asf. I’m sure a few of them have considered confronting David about something or other over the years, but then come to the realisation it could cost them their careers. Today, I bet it doesn’t even cross their minds to go against him - the situation is almost cult like
That's manipulative and disgusting of him.. His friends shouldn't feel indebted tho coz they didn't force him to give them those things. He gave those out of his free will..
I'm glad some of them are getting paid because he only paid Seth one time.
And it was because Seth begged him to because he was about to be homeless
Facts ,money talks louder 🤦🏾♂️
I'm really glad I found your channel; some true-crime/conspiracy/""drama"" channels come across extremely scripted, stilted, and fake, but you're very natural and it feels like I'm just chillin in your room listening to you info-dump about something that interests you, and that's the vibe I'm looking for
You guys forgot when Jason was racist towards Davids housekeeper ( a hispanic lady ) they pranked her a lot, David was sweet to her but you could tell that Jasons energy around her was just weird.
As someone who started watching David's videos at a young age (14) I can 100% say that I was completely blinded and tricked into believing that everything wrong with david and the vlog squad was ok. There are TONS of young and impressionable kids and teens that watch David's videos and see the misogyny, see the homophobia, see the racism, etc and believe that it is ok because their idols act like it's ok when it is not. It is crazy how so many things were swept under the rug and hidden away from the public that when it finally came out no one could believe it because they couldnt believe that their idol would do something like that. Now do I believe that david and his friends are bad people? Yes and no. I believe that people can change but I also believe that some people are ignorant enough to ignore the importance of change. Scotty for example: He has a controversial past with saying some bad things but he took accountability and apologized. However David also has a controversial past and still hasnt really apologized for it. What's the point to this? Well Scotty has changed and David hasnt (well not that much anyway). I think that's why people are still so focused on "cancelling" David. Now I dont think that canceling works and I dont agree with cancel culture at all. They lose focus of what's important and try to cancel anyone in their sights. However I do think that David ABSOLUTELY should be held accountable for what he has done and what he continues to do. Like I said David has young and impressionable fans who are willing to look past his wrong doings simply because they dont know any better (which is exactly what I did). David needs to stop, hold himself accountable, and apologize for what he had done before he ends up causing more damage then he already has.
exactly!! It’s so normalized I used to laugh so hard at jokes directed towards women etc. and looking back I get so sad that I let so many jokes slide. and I know there are so many other young women that don’t realize how terrible it actually is !!!!!!!!
period!! exactly what i was thinking, i stopped watching david when i realized he will never take himself accountable of the awful things he did.
I’m 14 rn but all my friends started watching him at 11-12
In the beginning, he would fat shame Gabbie as well, even though she wasn't fat! He has a lot of teenage girls that watch his content, that is really good for their body image. He miniplates his friends into doing whatever he wants to do. He got Corrina to get a "David's Vlogs," tattoo on her finger for money. He talk Todd and Corrina into letting him keep footage of her giving Todd a b.J. in the back of the Tesla. I could go on and on. I used to love David and his vlogs, but looking back now, I can see that he bullies people in order to get what he wants. It is all about him making money and he doesn't care who he hurts along the way.
this ! and even tho gabbie is problematic in her own right, he obviously majorly contributed to her body image issues that she continues to struggle with to this day
David Dobrik has serial killer eyes, he kinda reminds me of Ted Bundy. Guy seemingly has no conscience or sense of morality. I could see him letting a Vlog squad member/friend get gravely injured for content.
Oh wait, he did that.
Dude that part of Trish arguing with David... it was cut right when David was SCREAMING at Trish. Because Trish said “it’s not a movie, it’s David’s Vlogs...” God, dude. I imagine he’s a true evil person always. You can see it shine through in his videos.. monster in real life.
that stuck out to me too. i wonder what he yelled at her :(
I’m disappointed the clip got cropped just before that
Trisha is not a good person at all. But she still doesn't deserve any of the abuse or possible assault that happened to her.
@@kaleidoscopekayley at least she owned up to it instead of straight-up denying and threatening to sue like david.
Where is it in this video? Minute?
First of all, I feel horrible for Trisha. I know Trisha isn't the best person but I can't imagine having to go through all of this crap and hearing people call you crazy.
Second of all, David and Jason are disgusting and need to be held accountable for their actions. Like, Jason, you're in your forties. Stop hanging around kids. And David, learn to grow up and figure out what's not appropriate to do.
Thirdly, I'll never understand the hype of David. The dude is obnoxious and acts like that annoying popular guy in high school.
Right! I think since she’s been on H3 she is trying to redeem and better herself
I feel bad for David cause of softies like you
@@Yng619 I feel sorry for your parents,I know they tried but you still turned out to be a turd.
@@roisinculler775 Bruh you scream Snowflake energy
idk ya know, you look at these people and you think “how could they do this stuff” then you see they have millions of dollars and your whole comment starts to become insignificant
I feel like he’s become so obsessed with numbers, views, and money to the point where he just see’s people as pawns and ways to get money.
Sadly that happens to a lot of successful people. The greed takes over.
Not to mention, that's the bass-ackwards example these days, shown by others, sponsors, platforms etc.. from day one. All is ok, looked past, ignored, not enforced, forgotten.. forgiven.. & all along too (what was there when signing contracts promoting these people.. & every day since) "unless". Rewarding, excusing, enabling bad behavior... (no matter who it impacts or harms, & regardless of boundaries, rules, laws, social norms or even basic human decency) Apparently ok, unless/until.. something finally impacts them directly & to point your $$$$ or own a$$ is on the line! Even then, minimize, manipulate, shift blame, lie.. make up.. whatever it takes to GET or get OUT of, period. No conscience required I guess. Again, sorry only for what is finally at risk... Wanting that to be protected, not remorseful or understanding about wrong doing itself or damage, sadly. Lacking all integrity, compassion, insight, moral compass, responsibility, maturity.
That's the narcissistic example & toxic "anything goes as long as you get yours" behavior being taught. Greatly rewarded, too, phew!!! The example set for viewers, new creators & worse, young impressionable viewers who look up to them & will, undoubtedly, be following their lead. =/ As a mom, Is be SO disappointed if any of them, were my child. Then again, they'd know & do better!!!! One can't help but wonder if I actually did them a disservice; esp. these days. Having taught & instilled such strong moral responsibility & to their core... I fear even if right, they'll get eaten alive & clawed over for.. everything. Unwilling to take the short cuts, cheat, lie, do what it takes to even compete with the likes of... Jeez, now how fkd up is THAT?!??! smh. ~ Stay safe & be well.
Hearing you say "and i only have 2k subscribers" just makes me smile so widely seeing how much you've grown in a couple months! I hope you grow even more Hailey, good luck
i feel so sorry for the antonyans, he exploited his friends lower class family for views by fat-shaming and humiliating, but they couldn’t say much because of the benefits. i related sm to their family & watching those vlogs made me sick
Absolutely. David clearly had no respect for the Antonyans, Seth, Trisha, or even Jason. He uses his money and influence to manipulate the people around him into doing what he wants, then gives them crumbs of the money he makes and calls it generosity
yeah people say hes a good guy because he gave them money, its a dilema
Seriously. It's so fucked up they way he treated them and then washed all that away by giving things. I grew up very poor and I know my family would have done the same if it helped us get out of poverty a little bit. The prank he pulled on Nick Antonyan is horrible. I would have acted to be cool later on but would have been devastated inside. So terrible.
@@samduhy5554 which prank? The movie audition?
@@babigirl9111 yes, it's a terrible prank no matter how much Nick appeared okay with later on. He must have been so so disappointed and heartbroken when he realized it was all fake.
The fact that they thought it would be acceptable to mock Asian languages while taste-testing a Filipino snack 'Boy Bawang' (rough translation: Garlic Boy) shows how racially blind they are.
i mean they were mocking east asian languages filipinos are asian?
@@gabywaby5215 *south east asia, vastly different from east asia.
@@SpiderLily2024 i meant like. yeah east asian and south east asian languages are different i more meant op made it seem like filipinos arent asian tho
Not important but Boy Bawang is really great!
@@nathan.cremsiffino this is so wholesome and nice i agree!!
Why was David SCREAMING at Trisha like that oh my god he got up and everything
Yes that triggered me so bad. “I can’t be wrong if I’m talking over you” vibes
Wait what's the timestamp please?
@@bonnieellies2326 15:50
@@roseho587 Thank you!
fr so scary! why was he so aggressive
imm soo proud of uuu, you had 2k subs in this vid and it was a month ago now you have over 150k, you deserve each and every single one
“Apologize. Unless he’s just not sorry” GIRL YES. David doesn’t give a fuck and has demonstrated those actions. He has never shown an act of sorrow... why? Bc he’s NOT SORRY. He’s about himself and only himself and did whatever to get to the top... which was at the expense of others ‘exploitation, racism, slut-shaming, SA, etc. Any normal person would have empathy NOT to do this, which is something David clearly doesn’t have. Also I think the giveaways are just a mask.
Why does he have to apologize publicly? Do you people just enjoy the power you get over making someone do something publicly? He already apologized to Seth privately and removed the videos. The dude doesn't have a time machine to go back and undo the prank now. Absurd forcing someone to do something
@@lastnamefirstname4678 EXACTLY you read my mind , he doesn’t owe anyone anything besides the person he may have hurt , idk why people think they are entitled to an apology for something that doesn’t truly affect them. It’s just a power play imo, it doesn’t matter how big his platform is bc he’s still a human being like the rest of us, and like the rest of us, we don’t just go and apologize to the world every time we fuck up lol, and neither does he
@@luiscastillo6191 exactly lmao and I'm glad someone else agrees with me. People just get a ego trip when they make someone as famous/popular as DD publicly apologize.
Also I don't remember a SINGLE time where someone made a public apology and then the hate decreased IF ANYTHING the hate usually increases after a public apology.
Scotty made an apology on Twitter about the video he made and the dude is getting shit on MORE now than when the video was up defending David.
David already apologized to Seth and removed the video. He removed it as soon as Seth told him he wasn't comfortable. Literally nothing else he could do now
@@lastnamefirstname4678 he makes racist, homophobic jokes and always plays the victim card. His friends are funny, he's not. period.
He needs to publically apologize because his videos ARE PUBLIC. He hasnt just hurt 1 person, he's hurt people who have seen his videos and he's made it seem ok to behave like this to millions of impressionable teenagers. If this was something that wasnt online and was only between a few friends, then yes your argument would make sense, but thats not the case here and im sorry you cant see that. Maybe some people are on an ego trip, but most are just calling ppl out on their bullshit like they should
about the kissing prank: it really doesn’t seem like seth gave david consent. even in the video where david asked, seth never said yes to the 2nd prank. he said that he couldn’t consent to something that he didn’t know was coming. and even if he did consent to the second (which he didn’t), the first prank was still SA. consent to the 3rd prank isn’t consent for everything else too. i feel like the entire vlog squad never really understood that.
u cant give consent when u dont know the details. like imagine asking a girl for consent and then months later forcing a situation on her because she vaguely agreed.
Thank you!!!! He literally never said yes, he said that he couldn’t consent to something that he didn’t know was going to happen. Like-that’s a rational, reasonable comment. He’s absolutely right and the fact that Scotty thinks he did something with that clip is absolutely wild.
Didnt that guy text David to make another prank for clout?
@@poopfart65 yeah he did, but that doesn't mean that he gave his consent to the make out "pranks". It doesn't matter if he would give his consent to kiss Jason for a third "prank", because he didn't gave his consent before
@@poopfart65 did “that guy” agree to do the first and second one though? metaphor: if i take your watch once without permission, that’s theft. if i take your watch a second time without permission, that’s theft. and if you ask me if i want your watches the third time, and i take it, the first two times are still theft.
I don’t get the racist jokes. Like I don’t want to hear it was a different time. It was always garbage low end humor. ALWAYS.
Just an apology is lame and the barest minimum of human decency. Various communities don’t need apologies. We need sincere changes in behaviors and honest acknowledgement that their platform is built on trash.
Folks like Seth, poc’s who move in white spaces, thinking they can change racist behaviors by laughing along, are frustrating. Just don’t laugh in the first place. If you are the butt of the joke you are not the friend-you are the joke.
Hahaha. And talk like this is always garbage
@@saraberisha6773 The only garbage thing here is your comment. Bye
@@saraberisha6773 girl bye
Preach because this is so true.
@@saraberisha6773 its okay to be privileged, just dont act stupid and insensitive , okay?
There's a difference between giving consent to be pranked with some sort of kissing, and giving consent to kiss one person and having them switched out to someone you haven't consented to kiss.
Do y’all remember how everyone was scared to prank David back and when Jeff did it w the Liza painting, the vlog squad didn’t find it funny bc it was David and it was “too much”?? Yeah, ok. They all sus.
Can you send me the link to that video?
yeahhh, it' honestly pretty cult-ish. david seems to be the boss of the group and it's sad because i really thought before their friendship were all genuine and stuff ://
yeah i remember watching that video and the prank david did on him was pretty brutal because he turned jeff’s home into a prison, which could be pretty traumatic keeping in mind jeff was in jail.
And the way non of the vlog squad members reacted with laughter or something else was pretty weird and many people pointed that out in the comments.
i think with that video i also stopped watching his videos because it was all so suspicious.
ouh i also remember people breaking down their friendship wish at that time already showed that david did what he wanted without needing to think about the consequences
Cult mentality at its finest. If you pay close attention you can catch it. They intentionally avoid going after David as its taboo to them to do it.
David is the definition of gaslighting. I’m so disappointed I followed him for as long as I did.
same I’m kind of disgusted by the fact that I even rewatched some of his old videos
@@lordfarquaad537 oh my god same it’s so disappointing
I used to watch Liza back in the day. Thought he seemed like an okay person whenever he showed up in her videos. But I never wanted to check out his stuff. I'm glad that I never did. But hey, at least you recognize that David is a shitty person and you don't watch his videos anymore.
Jason’s apology was literally “I’m a good person I think this is bullshit” unreal
@@emaanqazi6667 Jason didn’t say that exactly, she’s just summing up what his apology was basically like
@@emaanqazi6667 36:11 listen to what he says, I just cut out the part where he says he loved her
Sounds familiar... *looks at shane “I’m an empath” Dawson*
Jason has two children. now imagine if his young daughter were in Seth's position. i wonder what his stance would be🤔
gaslighting 101 lmaoo
Girl, your skin is flawless. Absolutely stunning.
"we're all friends, we mess with each other" yeah, why does it have to be racist tho????
Exactly!! If your only humour is to be racist and sexist , you need to reevaluate if you’re actually a funny person making jokes
And usually that one person is the friend of the group that everyone barely tolerates only because they've been friends for so long.
I'm all for being racist with my friends because it's no one else's business.
He put it on the internet tho🙄😂
He's a dumb ass
@@Jay-og4yb interesting
@@naziarahman2641 !!!! agree
That Scotty vid is so manipulative and specifically edited. Just like the stuff David had him include in the Hi vid. We have no idea what is bts and notice Scotty didn't have the footage of Seth giving specific consent or what the "3rd" agreement was about. It took 2 white men and another short carefully edited vid to invalidate a black man's feelings and experiences.
correction to your video: you say that voice message in Scotty’s video is Seth giving permission for the ape video. this is WRONG. this consent if for a THIRD kissing-prank. the ape was the SECOND one, and the old-man mask was the FIRST one.
yess! thank you, sorry the timeline kinda gets messy at times
His voice message said he was more open to it.. which implies that he previously wasnt all on board but did it to get in the vlog.. which is were their group dynamics is weird. No one even mentioned scotty sire yet he's posting a video and holds a conflict of interest as hes an investor in dobriks new app he also never addressed the 1st prank or the racial component to it. The entire situation is weird.
@@HootisaidAwhata Also idk if this was just me but there was this sense of pressure in that voicenote. Especially with that other text of "not gay, just don't care" like somebody had been implying that if he didn't do this it's because he's homophobic
@@HootisaidAwhatayes!!!!!
@@kehkashanbhagat781 omg I thought I was the only one who thought so. It sounds like someone told him he was being homophobic about it, so he changed his mind
Here's the thing for me: even if Seth consented to this, it's gaybaiting and using the act of a man kissing a man as comedic, further stigmatizing a generation when it comes to how they view non-heterosexual intimacy as a joke or something that you do to embarrass someone. No matter if everyone was cool with it, it's not okay.
*an important point about the brandon calvillo situation:* the age of consent in california is 18. it does not matter if the minor “consented” or initiated. there shouldn’t have any type of sexual content between brandon and lacy until she turned 18
100% agree with you, just wanna say in terms of the severity of this in comparison, had this happened in Europe it wouldn't have been illegal, just saying in comparison with some of the other stuff mentioned in this video, this is not as bad. again, not excusing anything the law needs to be followed in the country you are in
@@Polinaparvanova exactly a few years is not a big deal in Europe lol these people would be shook if they saw the age differences in France 😭
The amount of anti-Asian comedy and sentiment is DISGUSTING. I cannot believe that people supported people like David Doobrick and Jason Rash who made a joke of Asian people. It’s no wonder why anti-Asian sentiment and humor is so normalized. It’s a zero tolerance for me and Asian Americans, so if you support them or overlook their racism to the Asian community, you’re part of the problem.
RASH-
We get it, you have a victim mentality. Plot twist, every race and community’s suffers from something.
@@wilddannyify yeah and? It doesn’t mean one can’t speak out against it
@@wilddannyify belittling other communities struggles isn’t helping anyone. It ain’t an oppression Olympics.
@@squishyfrog1447 yeah why don’t you speak out about the kids being bombed in Syria? How about the starving children in Africa? The people who suffer from poverty? Yeah let’s just focus ALL of our attention on Asian hate, when every other race goes through it. Last year it was Black lives, this year it’s Asians lives. How about we just accept that ALL lives matter? But instead you all would rather make this political, just like how Asian/blacks have been used for it. But okay
I didn’t know he existed until he dated Liza koshy
Me too 😂
Same
Same here. I didnt watch vine that much.
@@ericatheempress6698 yeah, i only saw some of lyzas bc they are so much used as memes
@@ericatheempress6698 i only watched vine for danny gonzalez lol
i love the og viners that are actually nice to watch and don’t really get into drama and stuff: drew gooden, danny gonzalez, cody ko
Didn’t Danny get in trouble for saying the n word or sumn
well do i have some news for you about kody ko 😀
If you go out and meet someone with the intention of, let’s say - doing the devil’s tango that night - you’re giving consent to the person IN THAT MOMENT. If even three seconds later you decide - you know what, I don’t want to do this - YOU’RE RECINDING YOUR CONSENT. There is no way you can give consent five months before especially when the details of the situation are so vague. Also there is no non-consentual interactions like that. There’s making out with someone who you want to do it with and both parties are into it and then there’s sexual assault, let’s call it what it is.
exactly. how can you consent when you don’t even know what you’re consenting to and 5 months before it happens? like you can change consent at any point when it’s been that long. the manipulation is real.
RIGHT
LITERALLY
Yup, the only issue is when its a video that was filmed w/ consent and then later was rescinded its impossible to "undo" it.
Yet he didnt tell david not to use the clip in his video?
I honestly feel bad for trisha. She made it obvious that she was uncomfortable about the things going on that Jason was doing yet he didn't change. Instead they broke up he damaged her career, her mental health, and literally got her put on suicide watch. Trisha has done things that I absolutely do not condone but making a platform talking about trisha in bad way influencing people to hate on trisha causing her to almost kill herself is something that shouldn't happen to anyone.
Edit: I'm not saying trisha is a good person and we should all play a sympathy card for her, I'm just saying that for that particular incident, I feel bad. Hope that clears up any confusion (I'm not a trisha stan what so ever)
She suffered the consequenses of the "boy who cried wolfe" ... It's sad because if she wasn't Trisha people would have reconsidered. I could genuinly tell she was beyond upset ☹️
@@pumpkinpie3887 because all it took was talking about her once. And what they said hurt her enough for her to almost kill herself. It only took them one time to talk about her and then everybody hated her. They knew she had problems and instead of talking about the situation privately they talked about it publicly. Yeah trisha was the one that announced it to the public but Jason and David could've confirmed that they broke up, instead of saying that everything that Jason did wasn't enough and that she was selfish.
@@pumpkinpie3887 that’s a very logical thing to say, honestly, and works perfectly for sane people. however, trisha has made it very clear that she struggles with mental health severely and those choices do not come easy to her. since the age of six she’s been abused, she’s been through hell. many abused people are drawn back to abusers, it’s a coping mechanism to trick the mind that abuse is normal rather than accepting that they were abused.
the entire situation with jason and david really did almost kill her, since she fell to really hard drugs (meth) and wrecked her car driving to jason’s house in a manic drug fueled episode. nobody would choose the mental stress she’s been through. bad things in her life happen, she’s not a bad person.
@@rebekahkelbaugh They haven't mentioned her once. She taked about them every single day for 2 YEARS. th-cam.com/video/hdq_kwO1XRc/w-d-xo.html
@@pumpkinpie3887 she was first diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia at age 9 and again at 12 i believe. it’s a very hard reality to grasp if you have no lived it. most of the people who heavily support trisha have diagnoses of their own and genuinely understand her, such as myself.. it’s not black & white or as simple as some people think it is. her explanations and her excuses and her reasoning for things are all over the place because her thoughts are all over the place, her mind is imbalanced and that’s not her choice. she’s has a history with substance abuse and addiction, starting a new medication can flat out be terrifying because any head change from a substance can trigger those addictive traits, which can lead to fatal actions. dealing w severe mental health is a nightmare, and she’s doing it with millions of people watching her. youtube is essentially her extended family and making videos is one of her coping mechanisms, it helps her not feel alone or trapped in her own mind. i’m sure she’s trying all types of different therapists to find a right one. she’s never been this attentive to her own mental health in her whole life and she’s never had as clear of any understanding of herself as she does now. it makes sense why details will change. she’s trying. all the while still dealing w her mental health. one day she could wake up ready to face the world w a smile on her face, very next day she can wake up with severe suicidal thoughts. it’s a rollercoaster she’s trying to sort out. it’s a shame you have doubt, but at the same time i definitely understand that it’s a complex thing to grasp. mental health generally isn’t explained to anybody, especially not severe cases.
Okay but that clip where David started yelling at trish and it just cuts off. That shows he doesn’t give af about accountability. He’s not open at all to hearing he’s wrong.
I agree but that clip is also older
😂 he didn’t like that she didn’t see him as a professional , he’s “just a vlogger”.
What Seth “gave consent” for is not even what actually happened. So that isn’t even consent cause he did not agree to what happened and you cannot consent to something that you didn’t know about. So David lied 🤥
i also think that his(seth) consent is coming from fear. Like, lets say someone grab your but without your consent one time and then they do it again a second time, if you give your consent to third time, then maybe that just you realizing that its going to happen no matter what, you would rather try to control it, and be aware of it, or get something out of it. Because at that point they cross a line twice, and you are just thinking to yourself, they are probebly going to it a third time, and trying to a least have some control on it or gain something from it. I dont think he gave consent a third time because he was happy, but more because he learned that his friend group are going to do it no matter what, and he rather earn money from it, if its going to happend.
Yess thats what i was thinking, it seems like the situation was already humiliating to him, so he tried to show that he was willing to do it to take control
@Adriana Luna exactly
GREAT point. I’m so glad u brought this up. Consent isn’t always so clear cut.
I feel like all the problematic TH-camrs are what happened to the kids who used to bully us in school and haven’t grown out of what they did back then 😂
They deffo have that bully energy! They keep invalidating peoples feelings and saying that it's just a prank (it's never ok if it actually damages those who are getting pranked!). I have no idea why people watch those kind of people?!
@@SuicidalH some of them were even bullies themselves i think before their "fame"
There are people with talent and knowledge and those pricks are still on
Gross
David is literally just a spoiled rich kid
who gets his way no matter who tells him to stop it’s ridiculous
Dude I love her videos so much! I can literally sit here and watch the whole video without getting bored, annoyed or irritated. And that’s very rare always get bored of peoples videos and close out of them! Please make more videos like these.
IF SETH REALLY GAVE HIS CONSENT ON CAMERA, WHY DIDNT DAVID INCLUDE THAT PART!!!!
WHY WOULD DAVID ONLY INCLUDE THE PART WHERE HE ASKED
that's exactly what i was thinking...like if there is recorded proof of consent why can't we see it? where is it?
@@gracesottilo6272 it's literally that simple. And it's infuriating that some people are using that clip and Scott's dumbass video to brush off seths accusations
Yeah, like lets grill Seth for having no evidence by a making a video response that also has no evidence...
@@davidgriffith598 literally
Because it wasn't needed for the vlog which is supposed to be 4 minute and 20 second short comedy vids or life reels.