@@bl8388Well, that’s only because Sauron is a shapeshifter, so Sauron can make his thing as long as the distance from Ered Luin to the Sea of Rhun. Sauron would basically be cheating. As for Aragorn, he’s Numenorean descendant and is thus quite tall, and you know what they say about tall guys…
For those who aren't aware, the elvish lines that Sauron recites are from a funeral hymnal. Sauron showed Aragorn his dead wife and was mockingly reciting her last rites.
@@tristonboring3462 the line that is discernible is "silivren penna miriel" which is from the Elvish hymn "A Elbereth Gilthoniel", about the queen of the Valar. It is supposed to be mocking in the way that Satan would mock the Holy Trinity.
For those having a sharp ear, if you can hear closely, Sauron recited the part of the funeral hymn in elvish and then added the black speech of the one ring. To be specific: "Silivren penna miriel o menal aglar elenath..." (White-glittering, slanting falls, sparkling like jewels from the firmament the glory of the starry host...) "Agh burzum-ishi krimpatul" (And the darkness bind them) So, yeah. What Sauron did was a mockery, in a sense.
The palantir is so scary. Gandalf accidentally puts his hand on it when trying to cover it with a cloth, and recoils when he glimpses the Eye... Saruman had it but didn’t actually touch it, he just hovered his hand over it... Pippin picks it up out of temptation and then horrifically can’t let go, screaming in pain. Only Aragorn is able to hold it, bare handed, and stare at it directly without recoiling, meeting Sauron's gaze... Now that’s strength.
The point of this was to goad Sauron into believing Gondor led by their fancy new King had grown overconfident and decided to foolishly attack Sauron head on when really they just wanted to by Frodo time and a clear path. Altogether mission accomplished. Love the scene.
It was also to make Sauron think Aragorn had the ring and was corrupted by it, making him believe that he could take Sauron on. So Sauron stopped looking for it since he thought Aragorn was about to bring it to him.
It has "Deceiver is being deceived" factor. Despite possessing more power than any being in middle-earth, Sauron's greatest achievements are not won trough strength but deception. Aside from that trickery with the rings, he managed to destroy the greatest empire race of man had ever forged by simply using his wits. Irony is massively strong here. Everyone hopes that Silmarillion gets adapted to big screen, but you know what I'd want to see? Akallabêth adapted into a movie. It probably would be very depressing movie in a sense, that it would detail how Sauron corrupted and deceived Numenor into destroying itself, but it would really expand Sauron's character and show us why he was such a feared force of evil.
@@Ruosteinenknight allakabeth is amazing, I'd rather not see the simirillion adopted as a result of the story bring too unclear, jump around around (a lot is going around) and the fact it's very biblical. Tolkiens work has always been biblical.
It would be nice if we got a movie on the last alliance too so we could actually see what happened and how everyone came together to fight their common foe in detail. At least we got the games showing how Sauron got the ring, if that's even canon. Haven't seen the sequel yet.
@@Ruosteinenknight That because every knows The War of Wrath was the equivalent of WWIII, they essentially nuked the continent off the map, who wouldn't want to see 3000' tall dragons and Balrogs wiping armies out
In the book, Aragorn was supposed to be visibly aged after that brief battle of wills with Sauron. Imagine being so powerful that you can knock years off someone's life with a staring contest.
I mean some of Aragorn's hairs at 1:15 look grayer and thinner to me than they were before, so if my eyes don"t deceive me that detail was kept in here.
I think you misunderstand... Aragorn was expecting it, but acted shocked on purpose. If he just laughed off that vision Sauron would know something was up. By acting all confident at first, and then becoming frightened at Sauron's vision, it made Sauron believe Aragorn had truly thought they had won.
This was brilliantly executed. It shows the nature of evil. Aragorn tried to act tough and showed that he wasn't afraid, and Sauron didn't care or acknowledge and immediately showed him his greatest fear.
TacTundra Can you explain to me why Aragorn's necklace just fell and smashed after talking to Sauron. Wasn't that a powerful necklace given to him by his girl?
but question of the day: Why was the gate fully repaired in this scene? The gate was repaired when Gimli found a colony of dwarves in the Glittering Caves
0:12 I love it that Aragorn has that ring. It is never referenced or explained, but that ring has a history even more impressive than the One Ring itself. And it's been in scarier places too. It's not magic and it has no powers, but it belonged to Beren who cut a Silmaril out of the crown of Morgoth (Sauron's boss), so it is probably the most badass piece of jewellery in Middle Earth.
I don't think it was a deepfake. It was a foretelling of Arwen's death after Aragorn died 150 years or so in the future. The Palantir do not lie but the context may not be revealed. Sauron was able to visualize Arwen's death but did not know the context, to his detriment. But I do like your analogy.
I love the moment when the Evenstar shatters and you see Aragorn in full armor. It illustrates that he is gonna go on fighting even after seeing his worst fear.
Aragorn tried to act tough, Sauron immediately showed that even in his weakest form, he can access your mind from thousands of miles away in the blink of an eye and showed him his greatest fear. It`s Aragorn who didn`t know what to do.
I just realized. Merry is riding on the back of Eomer's horse. Eomer who questioned Merry's value in battle when they were encamped at Dun Harrow. Love that even a minor character can have subtle growth like that.
Because in the books Tolkien can give the minor characters lines to let them grow. The movie does a good job of showing those scenes instead of telling.
@@ProtomanButCallMeBlues and both basically became Knights of both realms which gave them a major confidence boost during the scourge of the Shire. They were the ones to summon the other Hobbits to battle while Frodo and Sam stayed back to watch due to the lack of strength from the journey. Pippin had a horn of Gondor while Merry had masterwork weapons and armor of the Rohorrim. That's two very good gifts to have as war leaders.
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sauron: "nice sword but you are talking too slow... here let me just search your memory and i'll get on with whatever you are planning to show me! ooooh this picture is interesting, care to explain?"
Fun fact: The quick glimpse of Sauron holding the other Palantír is proof that at this time of the trilogy, he had reconstructed his physical form and was not simply just a flaming eye. This is further proven with the cut scene of Sauron facing Aragorn in direct combat at the Black Gate. Of course, Sauron always had a physical form in the book, but it's cool to think he also had a physical form at some point near the end of the trilogy.
Perhaps my biggest peeve with the movies (which I love, don't get me wrong) is that Peter Jackson took Tolkien's "Eye of Sauron" metaphor way, way too literally. As vague as Tolkien was on Sauron's appearance, he makes it clear he did exist as a physical entity in Lord of the Rings.
@Sean Forrest Sure, but the audience wouldn't have known what exactly the 'Eye of Sauron' was unless explained in great, great detail, which would've been way too heavy on exposition. PJ's solution was sort of a cop-out, I guess, but a necessary one. I agree with you on Sauron's physical form, though. They shouldn't have changed that for the films.
@@seanforrest7991I think it worked very well for the movies. The subtle, invisible threat of book Sauron wouldn't have had enough impact (especially by early 2000s action cinema standards)
This scene is a lot deeper than you might think. It completely shows Sauron's evil in an amazing but terrifying way. The second Aragorn picks up the Palantir, Sauron begins saying an elvish hymn in a mocking way. He is basically mocking the races he hates the most, the Elves and Men and the dissolved alliance they once had. He is showing that in many ways, that they have failed. The first thing that can make Aragorn loose hope. Then he attacks Aragorn's emotions directly by showing him his worst fear, Arwen's death and making it seem like it was Aragorn's fault. This is how Sauron is the most evil being in Middle Earth, even more so than Morgoth in my opinion. Morgoth is more powerful yes but Sauron uses his power to destroy someone's emotions so that they loose all hope and turn to nothing from their anxiety and even depression you can say. He uses fear for his benefit. This directly ties into the Ring and the power that it has. Such an amazing villain and very similar to Satan or a Devil of some kind.
In the book Sauron cannot manipulate Aragorn with the Palantir because is his by right, a spirit like Sauron could manipulate with the Palantir someone with lesser will except those who has the right upon it, like Aragorn, for being heir of Isildur and Anarion.
Morgoth made everything evil in the world...without him Sauron wouldn't have such terrifying powers. Emotions,wills and all have been destroyed by Morgoth before, Beren and Luthien once got frightened to the utter brim by Morgoth awakening from Beren's sleeping spell dance thing. First age elves were nigh-fearless,but there has been times that even the strongest of wills will break from Morgoth's presence. Morgoth is the Satan of Tolkien's world...his mere presence makes people lose hope. Hence those are the reasons why Morgoth is more evil in general lore and standards than Sauron ever will be. Sauron deceives people and makes them lose hope yes, but Morgoth's focus on sheer destruction,wrath and a change of the matter of Arda into his own image is evil enough as he plans on making Arda into an incarnation of hell itself..such evil plaguing the world that even Saruon taking over Middle Earth would be mere in terror and evil. Morgoth forged evil and corruption in the world, so by definition he is more evil than Sauron. And his goals are massively more evil and terrifying than his servants, I mean Sauron would form Middle Earth into ash,flame and lava...but Morgoth would make it into an empty place of ruin,endless flame,ash,and hellish premise spread across the world.
White Alliance Because Sauron is actually speaking in Elvish here; Black Speech was more a pet project of his, with even most of his orcs only learning bits and pieces of it.
There were 7 palantirs brought from Numenor by Elendil. 4 of them were originally placed in Gondor, and 3 in Arnor. The ones in Gondor were placed at Minas Anor (later minas tirith), Osgiliath, Minas Ithil (later minas morgul) and Orthanc (isengard). The ones in Arnor were placed at Annuminas, Amon Sul (weathertop) and Tower-hills near Grey Heavens. Not all stones were similar. While the stones of Orthanc, Minas Anor, Minas Ithil and Annuminas were small and could communicate with another stone, The Stone of Osgiliath was the leader-stone, bigger (couldnt be moved by 1 man) and could talk with ALL palantirs at once. The Stone of Weathertop was also big and supposedly the 2-nd most powerful (thats why the 3 split kingdoms of Arnor fought a civil war, to control this stone on weathertop). The stone at the Tower hills was different and could not communicate with the others. It was always looking to the West towards the Valinor and Tol Eressea. This one was called the stone of Elendil, he used it to look towards the west. Out of these stones, 3 were still known about in the age where the book happens. Isengard palantir, Minas tirith palantir and Tower Hills palantir near the elf havens. But Gandalf tells Pippin that Sauron must have found at least one of the other ones, otherwise he couldn't have communicated with Saruman or Denethor. He believes Sauron used the Ithil-stone, because he conquered that city about 1000 years before the events of lotr. The stone of Osgiliath was most likely lost in the waters of Anduin when Osgiliath was burned during the Kin-strife (if my memory serves me well). The stones of Annuminas and Amon-Sul (weathertop) were at the bottom of the sea in the ice-bay of Forochel. The ship that came to rescue Arvedui, the last king of Arnor, sank because of the ice there. Thats how Arvedui died and how the stones were lost (he had them with him when he fled from the defeat at Fornost in 1974 T.A. - which ended the Arnor kingdom) There is another stone that is not a palantir but it's worth mentioning (also brought to middle-earth by Elendil from Numenor). Its the stone of Erech, were Aragorn calls forth the mountain-dead-folk to fulfill their oath. It was very big and similar looking to the Palantirs, although it's not said if it had any powers. (although it suspect it was because of this stone Isildur could curse the traitors of the mountain) In this scene it looks like Aragorn is using the Minas Anor stone, but in the books it was the Orthanc scene. He also hold up better in the books, here it looks like Aragorn is frightened by that vision. It is a pretty nice scene nevertheless.
@@feanor1488 You maybe shouldn't have been such a jerk and a hothead. Spilling blood in the UNDYING lands and you want credit? You deserve to be in internal purgatory in the halls of mandos until Eru Illuvatar finally forgives your murderous ass. :P
@@kyleenglot9184 So the Teleri attacking us first and killing countless of Noldor out of pure greed doesn't matter? Or Uinen disobeying the Valar and sinking our ships seems fair to you? And wasn't Melkor the first to spill blood in that blessed land? If my memory doesn't deceive me, he was released my none other than Manwe, who didn't even try to put him back in the Halls of Mandos and correct his own mistake after the destruction of Laurelin and Telperion. Infact it was due to my rebellion solely that the Valar decided to act against Melkor. And yes I believe that I deserve great renown. For not even the strongest of Maiar and the best smiths of Aule can create anything remotely close to what I did. The entire history of Arda was shifted that fated day that I decided to set sail from Valinor. And I do not feel ashamed for my deeds, for I was ultimately taking revenge for my father, the single thing that I love the most in this world. If you disagree with my courses then so be it. I do not need anyone's validation. The one thing I know with certainty, is that my courses were lead purely by emotion and circumstance.
@mustafawee No it wouldn’t be, another Satan isn’t a dark ugly being, he disguises himself as a angel of light, not because his form is of horns and a long tail. But because he is a beautiful angel and it’s hard to tell the difference between an angel of God and those who are fallen. Lucifer is the most beautiful of the angels, therefore humans can easily mistake him of being sent from God. People need to stop giving this idea that Lucifer is some ugly red beast with horns. Or that he is just ugly and dark full of shadow. He isn’t that is why, he can easily deceive others; because he is far from the most ugliest being.
@@dimitrescucrncevic9746 shut up, we don't care about if we are "right or wrong" about Satan's ass, he's not even real and we can make up whatever the fuck we want about it
I choose to believe Sauron isn't just a magical eye, but rather, the eye is his "looking glass" into the world. The black iris is a closed gateway into the void, and Sauron stands on precipice, pulling the strings of his puppets. You can sort of see this when he draws the Palantír's view of the eye closer with the motion of his hand at 0:46. Inside his little pocket-dimension where his essence is, he can conjure all kinds of visions to communicate with the Palantír user. Also, when Sauron tells Frodo: "There is no life inside the void... Only death." I think this is how he finds the ring so easily (over time) when someone uses it. While wearing the ring, part of your essence is brought into the void (making you invisible) but if you are alive, you create a big contrast by being alive inside of the void. It makes you stand out quite a bit I imagine.
kinda close, if u put a ring of power you go to the unseen realm (the Nazgul are fully in the unseen and the High Elves of Valinor and Sauron are in both the seen and unseen) but in the books sauron was not a eye, the Lidless Eye was his banner that orcs used, Sauron himself had a throneroom in the topmost room of Barad Dur and he had the Minas Morgul palantir and he used it with his malace and with his great power and he was able to look over distant lands.
Yes, but remember the more powerful a person is the more they have to be cautious with power in general. Gandalf recoils from the Palantir not because he can't handle it, but because he is so powerful that the thought of him being tempted by Sauron through it terrifies him, and he won't mess with that. He has the same exact attitude towards the Ring at the beginning of the first film, he barely touches it to see what it is when it's on the floor of Bag End, senses Sauron, and then immediately lifts his hand and never touches it again. Aragorn is extremely powerful, for a mortal man, but has less to fear overall than Gandalf. I will say thought that in the book this happened in an even more badass way. Aragorn actually won this confrontation and pulled the Palantir out from Sauron's influence.
@@farid1406He was te rigthful heir, thats why the palantir obeys Aragorn instead of a greater being like Sauron. Either Sauron or saruman had any right over the Palantir, and because of this Sauron greater power could dominate Saruman, but this could not happen with Aragorn or any heir to the throne.
Pj was planning on having aragorn fight a physical embodiment of sauron. It's actually on TH-cam, they filmed some of it but decided to scrap it because it strayed way too far from the book.
Bruh yesss I was looking for these comments Sauron WASNT AN EYE if anything you was most likely using the palantir and his Magic’s to form an eye which I find quite suiting cause without the ring Sauron isn’t at his maximum potential and therefore he is afraid of anyone who might cut off his pinkie again speaking about that Sauron defiantly should have worn the ring under his armor
0:07 camera work and lightning and how Viggo Mortensen moved; wow! Explains why the Lotr movies were so awarded for their cinematography among other great qualities
I have always intepreted Sauron speaking 0:30 to 0:36 and 0:53 to 0:56 as his 'Annatar' voice (the fair form he took to mislead the elves) and the voice from 0:56 to 1:03 as his true dark lord voice (the same as 'there is no life in the void, only.... death.)
Amazing until Aragorn tries to bluff Sauron by facetiming a sword to Sauron. Sauron could have pointed out he no longer had a hand to cut off, but decides to go full gangster with Aragorn's elf chick. #MindGames
@@bl8388 except he DID bluff him - the point of that entire thing was to give the impression that Aragorn and Gondor hat grown arrogant and overconfident after their victory, so suaron would take the bait and attack them with their forces to crush them, so frodo and sam could get to mount doom
@@thahoule7924 You're right. I just watched the extended version this week. This action distracted Sauron. Once Frodo and Sammy Gangrene got the ring to mount doom Smeegol, chomped the ring off and did a 2/10 dive into mount doom.
In the books, this happened immediately after Pippin looked into the stone. This causes Sauron to freak out because he knows a Hobbit has the Ring, and now the heir to Isildur with his reforged sword is taunting him through Saruman's Palantir. Hence why he invades Gondor before he is ready.
+SkinoReturns Well Sauron isnt just the eye up top, by this time he has returned to his physical appearance and just uses the eye to watch Middle-Earth. Him himself is within Barad-dur holding the Palantir
I love the metallic sounds when he pulls out Anduril. Its as if 3 tons of steel were just swung and hit something. Really helps to instill the might it carries.
imagine easily laying waste to half an army with a couple swings and you get cocky and reach for a man and he gets lucky and cuts off your fingers. I imagine during his rise back to power he must have been given himself a pep talk " ok Sauron remember when I get the ring back just keep swinging until everyone is dead, remember what happened last time you got complacent."
@@nintendogamer5472 He only got destroyed like that in the movies,in the books he had a epic fight with gil galad and elendil while Sauron won and killed both of them,he was also thrown down and even more diminished,since his physical form was in it’s weakest that time and was still regenerating.And then finally,isildur comes and picks up Narsil and approaches the thrown down body of sauron and he cut the ring from his finger,and Sauron needed the ring to stay in his physical form since he was significantly weakened from the destruction/sinking of Numenor.
One of the things I like about this, despite how the rest of the film depicts Sauron, is that it gives a nod to how he is in the books. In the movies he's a big suspended eyeball on top of Barad-Dur, which is not in the books. In the books he has once again taken his physical form. In this scene just before we see Arwen in the Palantir, we see an image of Sauron armoured and holding his own Palantir up as he battles with Aragorn.
The fact that when Sauron sees the sword, for a moment shows his true (physical) self, instead of the eye. This tells me that his fear and surprise made him lose the illusion of "the eye" for just one second, thus confirming the eye is just an illusion and the real sauron is a person (for lack of a better word) holding a Palantir 24/7.
Guys, I get that you hate this change, but you really gotta accept that Sauron in Peter Jackson’s version is JUST the Eye. You think because he saw a split second of his old body holding the palantir that must mean that’s actually him holding it? He also showed a vision of a dead Arwen, and all know that was a lie. Him holding the palantir was just a vision signifying that he ALSO has a palantir (as in “two can play this game, Aragorn”) Don’t believe me? Look at his hand. How many fingers are on it? If that’s his actual body, why aren’t any of his fingers missing? Also, if you could, explain to me why book purists despise this change so much, despite the fact that you cannot have your villain cower in his fortress and NEVER show himself for three straight movies? Cause that’s not how film works.
@@Arander92 Well first, Sauron Body is completely destroyed when he is separated from the ring, so if he has corporial form, this is most likely a new body so the fingers would be regrown most likely. Seeing as he is a demi-god who can regrow his complete body, im fairly sure regrowing a couple fingers is well within his power, so that last argument is kinda weak. But i do agree that Sauron is most likely only the eye in Peter Jackson's interpretation, i always looked at it this way: Sauron binded himself to the ring; his spirit dwells middle earth because the ring is still present, but to regain his corporial form, he needs to physically have it.
@@oblivionronin Well I only brought up the finger thing because book purists always bring it up. If he is demigod that regenerates, why is his finger still missing in the books? And if it’s missing in the books, why wouldn’t it be missing in the movies, had PJ not made the change? Food for thought
One of the greatest villains ever made and of all that Jackson did in his movies he did a fine job in interpreting him onscreen. Visually and sonically this is a magnificent scene.
I wonder if Arwen’s necklace literally smashed apart like that for real or it was something like a dream sequence that was supposed to metaphorically mean something. The whole thing felt like some kind of dream.
Fuck, what a dick move by Sauron. But it's so brilliant. Aragon showed him that he could be defeated, Sauron showed him the one thing he fears the most. Sauron basically said "You think you're so tough, let me show you how tough I am"
It's amazing that an ancient magical artifact created before time was even measured that can see across the aeons of time and space can be foiled at the very last second by having a dishcloth thrown on top of it
I don't know why but the fact that we can see Sauron holding the Palantir gives shape to the terror of all three movies. I remember watching the movies and believing that Sauron did not have a body the entire time, and watching send chills down my spine
Many people here don't seem to realize that Sauron was as hard hit (if not harder) by Aragorn showing him the sword that defeated him. People interpret it as he didn't care, but he actually was extremely shocked. Sauron is full of fear and the sword must've triggered extreme paranoia in him He just went into full defense mode to hit Aragorn just as hard.
ringwraiths can paralyze a man with a look it must be very disconcerting indeed to have a puny human looking at the Dark Lord and talk !@#$, rather than wailing in despair who's to say whether the sword had to be special to take it's place in history... or rather the credit should go to the conviction of its wielder
I love how you see him slightly shiver as he's holding the Palantir to taunt Sauron with the sword. It's the same thing with Eowyn vs the Witch King, they're characters who are terrified but push on regardless.
See, this shows just how evil and sadistic Sauron is. Here comes the destined King of Gondor offering Sauron a challenge by combat and showing him that he is not afraid of him. And Sauron responds by showing Aragorn the truth, and that there is one thing he still fears more than Sauron, the love of his life dead. Thing is, that didn’t break Aragorn, in fact, it only gave him a new purpose, to make sure Frodo was given the time he needed to destroy the Ring.
The way he just pulled his sword back to his right side just shows how devastated he is to look on such a sight. Even though it’s not happening, but it’s still terrifying. Shows how cunning Sauron is. He even tricked the Numenorians by playing prisoner to enter Numenor, and made them turn against each other.
This scene is one of my few qualms about the Extended Edition trilogy (which is otherwise an epic masterpiece!) - this scene makes it appear that Aragorn lost the battle of wills against Sauron, whereas in the books he won it quite handily, leaving Sauron in fear of HIS power rather than the other way around. Aragorn was the rightful master of the palantir, whereas Sauron was the one forcing it to his will.
Yeah plus he was clearly drained from the experience according to Legolas. The palantir were his by right, and it was an opportunity in the movie to show the inherent power of Aragorn from the line of kings. .
So true. To quote my favorite part from the book, where Gimli and Legolas are talking about Aragorn post-battle of Pelennor: 'Ere that dark day ended none of the enemy were left to resist us all were drowned, or were flying south in the hope to find their own lands upon foot. Strange and wonderful I thought it that the designs of Mordor should be overthrown by such wraiths of fear and darkness. With its own weapons was it worsted!' 'Strange indeed,' said Legolas. 'In that hour I looked on Aragorn and thought how great and terrible a Lord he might have become in the strength of his will, had he taken the Ring to himself. Not for naught does Mordor fear him. But nobler is his spirit than the understanding of Sauron; for is he not of the children of Lúthien? Never shall that line fail, though the years may lengthen beyond count.' From that, I always interpreted that to mean he could have very well been even more terrifying than Sauron in terms of using his indomitable will to tame what was within his right to have. And more, if he let the ring's evil ambitions run their course.
On a cinematic level, this works better. It gives the transition to marching on the Black Gate a level of ambiguity rather than reaffirmation that Aragorn will live and overcome Sauron. That bit of doubt makes the following battle all the more dire in tone.
Sauron: Silivren penna míriel, o menel aglar elenath! Aragorn : Long have you hunted me. Long have I eluded you. No more. Behold the sworld of Elendil! Sauron : *shows him dead Arwen* Silivren penna miriel, ombi kurgundum-ishi, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. *laugh*
@@dimitrijemilicevic6747 part of it is the inscription of Sauron's Ring aka The One Ring; it's a dark form of Elvish that translates to "and in the darkness bind them"
@@dimitrijemilicevic6747 The first lines are from A Elbereth Gilthoniel, the traditional Elven funeral song. He's basically mockingly singing about the coming death of the Free Peoples, and in the first part of the second line, is specifically mocking the fact that Arwen is dying. The third part of the second line is the last part of the enscription of the One Ring 'And in the Darkness bind them.' He's referring to the fact that Arwen's fate is tied to that of the ring. The second part of the second line isn't exactly something that can be translated directly, but getting close is something like 'I'm going to specifically enjoy slaughtering her'. Sauron is a massive fucking dick.
One thing I wish they had done in ROTK is show that Denethor had a palantir. In the book it explains why he is so defeatist because Sauron shows him all the armies being sent against him. In the movie his character is reduced to just being a jerk.
David McCarthy Sauron is reciting verses from A Elbereth Gilthoniel, a Elvis hymn about star-goddess Varda also know as Elbereth Gilthoniel. The elves use it as something of prayer. My takeaway from him using those lines is that Sauron’s intent is to mock Arwen who, like Varda, is known to be very beautiful. I hope this helps!
@@davidmccarthy4206 It sounds like Gandalf to me, which I interpret as Sauron getting in his head by imitating the voice of one of Aragorn's most trusted of friends.
The movie did Sauron better justice in this scene than in the book imo. Shows that Sauron was no pushover u could just mock and walk away, but an actual threat who could break you by simply interracting with him
@0:48.... Before now, I thought that the sight of Sauron in the Palantir was him remembering when Isildur cut the ring from his hand with Narsil, but I am now both corrected and amazed! I wasn't paying close enough attention to what that moment was really showing: Sauron had regained physical form and was holding the Ithil Stone! A very cool detail.
Sauron always regain his physical form no matter how many times he died. Defeated by Huan? Sauron still had his chance to hide from Morgoth. Drowned in Numenor? He just lost his fair form and went back to Mordor. Killed by Elendil, Gil Galad and Isildur? He simply reformed in Dol Guldur. Got his One Ring and fortress destroyed? He rose as a dark massive shadow in the sky until the Valar had enough of him and blew him away with their wind.
@@erichumphreys6656 Well, I believe Ren is incorrect about that last part, Sauron didn't actually return as a massive dark shadow, it was more like his remains, after the Ring was destroyed he had zero chance of EVER returning to Arda in physical form. His spirit simply lingered above Mordor and the Valar blew it away. It's HEAVILY implied Sauron could NEVER return after this. I'm pretty sure even as a massive shadow, he wouldn't have been able to interact with the denizens of Arda in any way. I think it was to serve as a reminder of Sauron's evil.
+14Schofield I respectfully disagree. Aragorn's entire character arc is a story of him rejecting or not following his destiny and finally accepting it and of Gondor (the stewards) rejection of claims by Kings of Arnor to the throne of Gondor. Sadly while many parts of this movie trilogy are unbelievably good, these parts were not done well. There are three big steps to the first part in the books: Aragorn having the sword reforged when settling out from Rivendell, Aragorn challenging Eomer and his entire Eored' during the chase in book 2, and finally him taking the Palintir and not only using it but showing the sword reforged to Sauron and then breaking Sauron's will and claiming full control of it and using it showing his superiority to the Stewards. Those three key moments were done differently and in the last two cases "wrong." But no one is paying ME to make movies...LOL oh, and Gandalf losing his staff to the WitchKing.... ugh.
14Schofield I thought the point of this scene was to trick Sauron into thinking they were ready for war at the gate. They needed a distraction for Frodo, remember? Watch the end of the scene before this one.
@@willcc19-18 Because Sauron isn't much of a fighter. He is more of a schemer who likes to manipulate others to do his bidding. People who don't read the books kinda get a wrong picture of him based on the first minutes of the first film. Actually they sieged his tower for 17 years before he came out and fought and that is when he still had the ring. Now he doesn't posess the ring and is not nearly as powerful so he won't come down himself. And why should he? The combined armies in the end were so much smaller than the armies of Mordor and seemed desperate. He just stayed back and waited for victory.
@@willcc19-18 He doesn't need the ring to get a physical form per se. It just means that because his powers are in it and it still habits middle earth he can regain his former glory. It is just a concentration of Saurons powers. He has lost his physical body before. He does not need the ring to do it.
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Sauron - "Nice sword, here's your dead wife."
*dial tone*
Lol
Love this ❤
A few days later a whole army shows up demanding justice.
Lmao
He wasn't married yet
i love how this scene is essentially just Aragorn and Sauron giving eachother a big middle finger
It's the Middle-Earth equivalent to sh*t talking on Call Of Duty Multiplayer.
and it worked like a charm
middle earth version of trash talk that we see in MMA
This needs to be a chibi comic
dakota stein ahahh..
I love how Aragorn holds up his sword and Sauron's like, "Oh, we showin' things?"
Yah cause I respect Aragorn, but we know whose got a bigger one, and it's Sauron.
@@bl8388Well, that’s only because Sauron is a shapeshifter, so Sauron can make his thing as long as the distance from Ered Luin to the Sea of Rhun. Sauron would basically be cheating. As for Aragorn, he’s Numenorean descendant and is thus quite tall, and you know what they say about tall guys…
Sauron types in Aragorns IP address in chat.
thank you for your pseudo-ghetto redditboi phrasing, none of us could have lived without it
@@bl8388nah, Sauron is like a truck trying to compensate for his shortness with a ridiculously long tower
For those who aren't aware, the elvish lines that Sauron recites are from a funeral hymnal. Sauron showed Aragorn his dead wife and was mockingly reciting her last rites.
Do you know what he says by any chance?
@@tristonboring3462 the line that is discernible is "silivren penna miriel" which is from the Elvish hymn "A Elbereth Gilthoniel", about the queen of the Valar. It is supposed to be mocking in the way that Satan would mock the Holy Trinity.
@@WunderWaffleman Thank you thats very cool
I have not been able to find any references of A Elbereth Gilthoniel being a funeral hymn.
For those having a sharp ear, if you can hear closely, Sauron recited the part of the funeral hymn in elvish and then added the black speech of the one ring. To be specific:
"Silivren penna miriel
o menal aglar elenath..."
(White-glittering, slanting falls, sparkling like jewels
from the firmament the glory of the starry host...)
"Agh burzum-ishi krimpatul"
(And the darkness bind them)
So, yeah. What Sauron did was a mockery, in a sense.
Arowen: where’s the necklace I gave you?
Aragorn: I uh... dropped it when flexing at Sauron..
Flexing at Sauron🤣🤣
*Arwen
@@sheevpalpatine6466 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@@ludwigvanbeethoven5176 bruh 😂
Hahaha well he kinda did... He made Sauron recoil and thats a big enough achievement for me lmao
0:45
"You may possess the blade which broke my body, but I possess the knowledge that will break your spirit."
Amazing.
If Sauron talked that is definitely what he would have said
@@monkeydtony5848 he is but think he’s talking in black speech
@@mephilesthelight4644 The vile tongue of Mordor was really just ghetto?
Where’d u find that out?
The palantir is so scary. Gandalf accidentally puts his hand on it when trying to cover it with a cloth, and recoils when he glimpses the Eye... Saruman had it but didn’t actually touch it, he just hovered his hand over it... Pippin picks it up out of temptation and then horrifically can’t let go, screaming in pain.
Only Aragorn is able to hold it, bare handed, and stare at it directly without recoiling, meeting Sauron's gaze... Now that’s strength.
He wore an Elven ring of power and had the Elven Amulet of protection
I think it also was because his anchestors where numeoanorians and they used the palantir for communication
Is it possible the palantir drove Denathor to madness?
@@roberterlandson8234 it actually did.
Watch the extended version, saruman held the palantir
The point of this was to goad Sauron into believing Gondor led by their fancy new King had grown overconfident and decided to foolishly attack Sauron head on when really they just wanted to by Frodo time and a clear path. Altogether mission accomplished. Love the scene.
It was also to make Sauron think Aragorn had the ring and was corrupted by it, making him believe that he could take Sauron on. So Sauron stopped looking for it since he thought Aragorn was about to bring it to him.
It has "Deceiver is being deceived" factor. Despite possessing more power than any being in middle-earth, Sauron's greatest achievements are not won trough strength but deception. Aside from that trickery with the rings, he managed to destroy the greatest empire race of man had ever forged by simply using his wits. Irony is massively strong here.
Everyone hopes that Silmarillion gets adapted to big screen, but you know what I'd want to see? Akallabêth adapted into a movie. It probably would be very depressing movie in a sense, that it would detail how Sauron corrupted and deceived Numenor into destroying itself, but it would really expand Sauron's character and show us why he was such a feared force of evil.
@@Ruosteinenknight allakabeth is amazing, I'd rather not see the simirillion adopted as a result of the story bring too unclear, jump around around (a lot is going around) and the fact it's very biblical. Tolkiens work has always been biblical.
It would be nice if we got a movie on the last alliance too so we could actually see what happened and how everyone came together to fight their common foe in detail.
At least we got the games showing how Sauron got the ring, if that's even canon. Haven't seen the sequel yet.
@@Ruosteinenknight That because every knows The War of Wrath was the equivalent of WWIII, they essentially nuked the continent off the map, who wouldn't want to see 3000' tall dragons and Balrogs wiping armies out
In the book, Aragorn was supposed to be visibly aged after that brief battle of wills with Sauron. Imagine being so powerful that you can knock years off someone's life with a staring contest.
I mean some of Aragorn's hairs at 1:15 look grayer and thinner to me than they were before, so if my eyes don"t deceive me that detail was kept in here.
Imagine dying because a ring melted.
and not just anyone,but a dunidine...a race of men with incredible lifespans (by this point in the story hes 87 years old)
Whattttt?
@Joe Strozewski he poured his soul into it to make it work
Aragorn: Behold the sword of Elendil!
Sauron: Behold your satisfied woman.
Aragorn: :-O
Hmmmm.. Sauron likes Elf pussy?
Is it me or did sauron drop the mike on Aragon?
*pikachu face*
@@justsometimber1nthelake873 *insert south america*
B R U H 11/10
How did he not expect Sauron to troll him back after waving the sword in his face? Lol
Aragon does not know what a troll is since he does not have the internet. So we can forgive him.
I think you misunderstand... Aragorn was expecting it, but acted shocked on purpose. If he just laughed off that vision Sauron would know something was up. By acting all confident at first, and then becoming frightened at Sauron's vision, it made Sauron believe Aragorn had truly thought they had won.
I think that was the point. He wanted Sauron to troll him back. Draw the eye out from his lands. It is what I would have done.
Pugger but he did fight a cave troll
A battle of shitposting before the advent of the internet.
This was brilliantly executed. It shows the nature of evil. Aragorn tried to act tough and showed that he wasn't afraid, and Sauron didn't care or acknowledge and immediately showed him his greatest fear.
TacTundra Can you explain to me why Aragorn's necklace just fell and smashed after talking to Sauron. Wasn't that a powerful necklace given to him by his girl?
Hussain Pradhan The power of the necklace was failing while Sauron power was growing. So the power of the Evenstar necklace was declining.
but question of the day: Why was the gate fully repaired in this scene?
The gate was repaired when Gimli found a colony of dwarves in the Glittering Caves
+Wes Al and they repaired it with mithril and dwarven iron and steel so it would never fall again
Jack Triggs I know that.
Palantir, middle earth version of Skype.
+Adam Lewis Snapchat. Sauron's all like 'lol sleeping with your gf'
+Patrick Owers Sauron: 'brb, updating fb status to in a relationship with arwen mwaahahaaaaaa'
Little known fact, but if I am not mistaken, there was already a palantir in Minas Tirith before the one Gandalf brought with him
Skype mixed with some sort of bowling ball of doom.
Yup , but Denethor had it when he died, so all you can see with it are two horribly burned old man hands.
So better use the other one.
0:12 I love it that Aragorn has that ring. It is never referenced or explained, but that ring has a history even more impressive than the One Ring itself. And it's been in scarier places too. It's not magic and it has no powers, but it belonged to Beren who cut a Silmaril out of the crown of Morgoth (Sauron's boss), so it is probably the most badass piece of jewellery in Middle Earth.
It is actually explained in the extended edition of The Two Towers. Wormtongue tells Saruman about it and he realises it’s Aragorn
Ring of Barahir?
A majority of Arda's history is war over jewelry lol
@@samsunguser3148 Yes, the ring Elrond gave to Aragorn
It's insane to think that ring is 6500 years old at least
This plays out exactly like an internet argument.
Aragon plays internet tough guy and Sauron responds by posting an AI deepfake of Arwen dead.
No, thats more like posting his address
I don't think it was a deepfake. It was a foretelling of Arwen's death after Aragorn died 150 years or so in the future. The Palantir do not lie but the context may not be revealed. Sauron was able to visualize Arwen's death but did not know the context, to his detriment. But I do like your analogy.
I love the moment when the Evenstar shatters and you see Aragorn in full armor. It illustrates that he is gonna go on fighting even after seeing his worst fear.
if losing some pussy is your "worst fear", you know you fucked up your life big time.
@@birdmanlilwaynemyson9247 what the hell...if your wishing someone else's mother death than your mother didn't raise you that well either.
@@bluebell8557 eyyy
@@VivaMessico Elf pussy is no joke.
@@VivaMessico your surely right there there is far worse to lose
0:47 Sauron: oh crap. Wait, I know what to do .
+n3verflix99 Sauron 1, aragorn 0.
n3verflix99 😂
Borkborkwoof Lol. I read that in the voice of The Violator from Spawn.
n3verflix99 she was not dying she was simply sleeping she does not give up her immortality til after Aragorn is King so she could not be dying
Aragorn tried to act tough, Sauron immediately showed that even in his weakest form, he can access your mind from thousands of miles away in the blink of an eye and showed him his greatest fear. It`s Aragorn who didn`t know what to do.
the voice of sauron is absoloutly amazing
+Dave Fincher Probably the most bas ass evil character!
Its my Mum
lol :))))
marmiedoise Morgoth
He honestly sounds like how I imagine Satan's voice.
At 0:52, Sauron says "silivren penna miriel" - which is from a poem in the books and means (roughly) "sparkling jewel falling down". Nice touch.
That sounded like Elrond's voice
He says it also at 0:30
A Elbereth Gilthoniel!
I just realized. Merry is riding on the back of Eomer's horse. Eomer who questioned Merry's value in battle when they were encamped at Dun Harrow. Love that even a minor character can have subtle growth like that.
Because in the books Tolkien can give the minor characters lines to let them grow. The movie does a good job of showing those scenes instead of telling.
Because Merry saved his sister's life
@@cv978 yup, Merry and Eomer became bros. While in Gondor Pippin and Faramir became bros.
@@ProtomanButCallMeBlues and both basically became Knights of both realms which gave them a major confidence boost during the scourge of the Shire. They were the ones to summon the other Hobbits to battle while Frodo and Sam stayed back to watch due to the lack of strength from the journey.
Pippin had a horn of Gondor while Merry had masterwork weapons and armor of the Rohorrim. That's two very good gifts to have as war leaders.
Her gün aynı şey bunlarıda desem ben sıkıntıya girerim gene inanmazlar şunları susturmak için ne yapıyorsan yap yada konuş soranlara bisey yoksa açıklık getirin bu ne ya geldi geçti bitti irdelemeyin artık bunaldım vallaha bide bu çıktı şimdi ben herhangi bi kötülük yapmadım sizde biliyorsun üz bunu üstüme gelmeyin
Aragorn: Behold the sword of Elendil
Sauron: Well, Behold, your bitch :D
Lol
Aight Sauron, you pretty savage
Middle Earth version Trash talk XD
Sauron: You wanna go, huh? You wanna go? Imma *stride* all over your ass, pretty boy!
Filip Cristian 😂😂
Aragorn: "Look at this sword."
Sauron: "Look in the box, Viggo."
“What’s in the boooox?!”
@@sabatino1977 fun fact; for Halloween one year Gwyneth Paltrow wore a box around her head
@@sabatino1977 Sauron: “I have your LAAAAYDEEEE”
sauron: "nice sword but you are talking too slow... here let me just search your memory and i'll get on with whatever you are planning to show me! ooooh this picture is interesting, care to explain?"
What's in the baaaaaall
*Sauron in the Palantir:* Lol got 'em.
*Aragorn after the successful distraction:* Lol got 'em.
Aragorn: "I have a big knife"
Sauron: "And a dead wife lmao"
Aragorn: "Hello! Witness the very thing you fear the most!"
Sauron: "Two can play that game!"
Fun fact: The quick glimpse of Sauron holding the other Palantír is proof that at this time of the trilogy, he had reconstructed his physical form and was not simply just a flaming eye. This is further proven with the cut scene of Sauron facing Aragorn in direct combat at the Black Gate.
Of course, Sauron always had a physical form in the book, but it's cool to think he also had a physical form at some point near the end of the trilogy.
Perhaps my biggest peeve with the movies (which I love, don't get me wrong) is that Peter Jackson took Tolkien's "Eye of Sauron" metaphor way, way too literally. As vague as Tolkien was on Sauron's appearance, he makes it clear he did exist as a physical entity in Lord of the Rings.
@Sean Forrest Sure, but the audience wouldn't have known what exactly the 'Eye of Sauron' was unless explained in great, great detail, which would've been way too heavy on exposition. PJ's solution was sort of a cop-out, I guess, but a necessary one.
I agree with you on Sauron's physical form, though. They shouldn't have changed that for the films.
Maybe he had created a body, a suit of armor, which he couldn't animate without the Ring.
@@seanforrest7991I think it worked very well for the movies. The subtle, invisible threat of book Sauron wouldn't have had enough impact (especially by early 2000s action cinema standards)
Agree - just noticed this on my sixth watchthrough! Sauron is a real boy!!!
This scene is a lot deeper than you might think. It completely shows Sauron's evil in an amazing but terrifying way. The second Aragorn picks up the Palantir, Sauron begins saying an elvish hymn in a mocking way. He is basically mocking the races he hates the most, the Elves and Men and the dissolved alliance they once had. He is showing that in many ways, that they have failed. The first thing that can make Aragorn loose hope. Then he attacks Aragorn's emotions directly by showing him his worst fear, Arwen's death and making it seem like it was Aragorn's fault. This is how Sauron is the most evil being in Middle Earth, even more so than Morgoth in my opinion. Morgoth is more powerful yes but Sauron uses his power to destroy someone's emotions so that they loose all hope and turn to nothing from their anxiety and even depression you can say. He uses fear for his benefit. This directly ties into the Ring and the power that it has. Such an amazing villain and very similar to Satan or a Devil of some kind.
If arragon cant speak the black language how would he know what the eye is saying?
In the book Sauron cannot manipulate Aragorn with the Palantir because is his by right, a spirit like Sauron could manipulate with the Palantir someone with lesser will except those who has the right upon it, like Aragorn, for being heir of Isildur and Anarion.
Morgoth made everything evil in the world...without him Sauron wouldn't have such terrifying powers. Emotions,wills and all have been destroyed by Morgoth before, Beren and Luthien once got frightened to the utter brim by Morgoth awakening from Beren's sleeping spell dance thing. First age elves were nigh-fearless,but there has been times that even the strongest of wills will break from Morgoth's presence.
Morgoth is the Satan of Tolkien's world...his mere presence makes people lose hope. Hence those are the reasons why Morgoth is more evil in general lore and standards than Sauron ever will be. Sauron deceives people and makes them lose hope yes, but Morgoth's focus on sheer destruction,wrath and a change of the matter of Arda into his own image is evil enough as he plans on making Arda into an incarnation of hell itself..such evil plaguing the world that even Saruon taking over Middle Earth would be mere in terror and evil.
Morgoth forged evil and corruption in the world, so by definition he is more evil than Sauron. And his goals are massively more evil and terrifying than his servants, I mean Sauron would form Middle Earth into ash,flame and lava...but Morgoth would make it into an empty place of ruin,endless flame,ash,and hellish premise spread across the world.
What you „discovered” here was well known to anybody who had read the book a long time ago.
White Alliance Because Sauron is actually speaking in Elvish here; Black Speech was more a pet project of his, with even most of his orcs only learning bits and pieces of it.
There were 7 palantirs brought from Numenor by Elendil. 4 of them were originally placed in Gondor, and 3 in Arnor. The ones in Gondor were placed at Minas Anor (later minas tirith), Osgiliath, Minas Ithil (later minas morgul) and Orthanc (isengard). The ones in Arnor were placed at Annuminas, Amon Sul (weathertop) and Tower-hills near Grey Heavens.
Not all stones were similar. While the stones of Orthanc, Minas Anor, Minas Ithil and Annuminas were small and could communicate with another stone, The Stone of Osgiliath was the leader-stone, bigger (couldnt be moved by 1 man) and could talk with ALL palantirs at once. The Stone of Weathertop was also big and supposedly the 2-nd most powerful (thats why the 3 split kingdoms of Arnor fought a civil war, to control this stone on weathertop). The stone at the Tower hills was different and could not communicate with the others. It was always looking to the West towards the Valinor and Tol Eressea. This one was called the stone of Elendil, he used it to look towards the west.
Out of these stones, 3 were still known about in the age where the book happens. Isengard palantir, Minas tirith palantir and Tower Hills palantir near the elf havens. But Gandalf tells Pippin that Sauron must have found at least one of the other ones, otherwise he couldn't have communicated with Saruman or Denethor. He believes Sauron used the Ithil-stone, because he conquered that city about 1000 years before the events of lotr. The stone of Osgiliath was most likely lost in the waters of Anduin when Osgiliath was burned during the Kin-strife (if my memory serves me well). The stones of Annuminas and Amon-Sul (weathertop) were at the bottom of the sea in the ice-bay of Forochel. The ship that came to rescue Arvedui, the last king of Arnor, sank because of the ice there. Thats how Arvedui died and how the stones were lost (he had them with him when he fled from the defeat at Fornost in 1974 T.A. - which ended the Arnor kingdom)
There is another stone that is not a palantir but it's worth mentioning (also brought to middle-earth by Elendil from Numenor). Its the stone of Erech, were Aragorn calls forth the mountain-dead-folk to fulfill their oath. It was very big and similar looking to the Palantirs, although it's not said if it had any powers. (although it suspect it was because of this stone Isildur could curse the traitors of the mountain)
In this scene it looks like Aragorn is using the Minas Anor stone, but in the books it was the Orthanc scene. He also hold up better in the books, here it looks like Aragorn is frightened by that vision. It is a pretty nice scene nevertheless.
SilverBane
Nerd.
Why don't people give me any credit? I *CREATED* the Palantir for Illuvatar's sake!
@@paulbenedict1289 HAHAHAHAHA
@@feanor1488 You maybe shouldn't have been such a jerk and a hothead. Spilling blood in the UNDYING lands and you want credit? You deserve to be in internal purgatory in the halls of mandos until Eru Illuvatar finally forgives your murderous ass. :P
@@kyleenglot9184 So the Teleri attacking us first and killing countless of Noldor out of pure greed doesn't matter? Or Uinen disobeying the Valar and sinking our ships seems fair to you? And wasn't Melkor the first to spill blood in that blessed land? If my memory doesn't deceive me, he was released my none other than Manwe, who didn't even try to put him back in the Halls of Mandos and correct his own mistake after the destruction of Laurelin and Telperion. Infact it was due to my rebellion solely that the Valar decided to act against Melkor. And yes I believe that I deserve great renown. For not even the strongest of Maiar and the best smiths of Aule can create anything remotely close to what I did. The entire history of Arda was shifted that fated day that I decided to set sail from Valinor. And I do not feel ashamed for my deeds, for I was ultimately taking revenge for my father, the single thing that I love the most in this world. If you disagree with my courses then so be it. I do not need anyone's validation. The one thing I know with certainty, is that my courses were lead purely by emotion and circumstance.
The way he says "Behold the sword of Elendil." is priceless.
Sauron : " behold your satisfied girlfriend "
@@wolfbane7497 GG
the audiences were like DAAAAAMN to it and the counter from Sauron goes right into Aragorn's face 😂😂
Aragon: "I know what you fear, and I will show it to you."
Sauron: *uno reverse card*
Jesus, Sauron's voice here is freakin' terrifying.
Voiced by the great Alan Howard.
@mustafawee No it wouldn’t be, another Satan isn’t a dark ugly being, he disguises himself as a angel of light, not because his form is of horns and a long tail. But because he is a beautiful angel and it’s hard to tell the difference between an angel of God and those who are fallen. Lucifer is the most beautiful of the angels, therefore humans can easily mistake him of being sent from God. People need to stop giving this idea that Lucifer is some ugly red beast with horns. Or that he is just ugly and dark full of shadow. He isn’t that is why, he can easily deceive others; because he is far from the most ugliest being.
@@dimitrescucrncevic9746 Silivren Penna Miriel Oh Menel Aglar Elanath
@@dimitrescucrncevic9746 shut up, we don't care about if we are "right or wrong" about Satan's ass, he's not even real and we can make up whatever the fuck we want about it
@@theonionsystem7779 You have a lot of hate there buddy, I hope you get help.
I choose to believe Sauron isn't just a magical eye, but rather, the eye is his "looking glass" into the world.
The black iris is a closed gateway into the void, and Sauron stands on precipice, pulling the strings of his puppets.
You can sort of see this when he draws the Palantír's view of the eye closer with the motion of his hand at 0:46.
Inside his little pocket-dimension where his essence is, he can conjure all kinds of visions to communicate with the Palantír user.
Also, when Sauron tells Frodo: "There is no life inside the void... Only death." I think this is how he finds the ring so easily (over time) when someone uses it.
While wearing the ring, part of your essence is brought into the void (making you invisible) but if you are alive, you create a big contrast by being alive inside of the void.
It makes you stand out quite a bit I imagine.
kinda close, if u put a ring of power you go to the unseen realm (the Nazgul are fully in the unseen and the High Elves of Valinor and Sauron are in both the seen and unseen) but in the books sauron was not a eye, the Lidless Eye was his banner that orcs used, Sauron himself had a throneroom in the topmost room of Barad Dur and he had the Minas Morgul palantir and he used it with his malace and with his great power and he was able to look over distant lands.
@@coltendavison4351 yeah he still had a physical existence in the books iirc, he was just extremely weakened
I think that sauron is a corrupted maiar
@@Leohast Interesting theory indeed
@@RayXGames That's actually correct.
No one else handled the Palantirs that way. Even Gandalf was initially afraid to look in it without more preparation.
Yes, but remember the more powerful a person is the more they have to be cautious with power in general. Gandalf recoils from the Palantir not because he can't handle it, but because he is so powerful that the thought of him being tempted by Sauron through it terrifies him, and he won't mess with that. He has the same exact attitude towards the Ring at the beginning of the first film, he barely touches it to see what it is when it's on the floor of Bag End, senses Sauron, and then immediately lifts his hand and never touches it again.
Aragorn is extremely powerful, for a mortal man, but has less to fear overall than Gandalf. I will say thought that in the book this happened in an even more badass way. Aragorn actually won this confrontation and pulled the Palantir out from Sauron's influence.
@@farid1406 Odd that the hobbits couldn't play catch with it and sleep on it like a pillow, though.
@@farid1406He was te rigthful heir, thats why the palantir obeys Aragorn instead of a greater being like Sauron.
Either Sauron or saruman had any right over the Palantir, and because of this Sauron greater power could dominate Saruman, but this could not happen with Aragorn or any heir to the throne.
@@farid1406 That's a great way of saying it. I think it's a good parallel to temptation in real life too.
@@farid1406 ikr? It runs with him all the time. Olorin always cautious about Sauron's will and power. That's why Manwë sends him.
It makes it all the more impressive that Denethor had to contend with Sauron's will for decades.
Denethor knew better than to look in the palantir for most of his life, and it didn’t take long for Sauron to destroy his mind once he did.
I like how Sauron hates elves and men more then any other race and Aragorn is like a perfect mix of them both. Culturally of course.
Literally as well. He’s born from the union of Beren and Luthien, after all.
And sauron was a elf lmfao
@@kingtroop5486 pretty sure every lotr fans knows that
@@kingtroop5486 eh no, he was a Maia, which is even greater
@@kingtroop5486 He's a Maia, like Gandalf and the Balrog.
1:26 Pippin face: what Im doing here
1:27 Merry face: mwahaha, Im a total badass, fear me simple mortals
😂😂
natanael medina 😂😂😂
Said by a Hobbit.
Seriously, 1:17, feel so bad for whoever had to clean up that battle field but well done sirs.
they called up tony stark to do the clean up.
where are the bodies?
You just know after the battle Merry and Pippin were standing all proud , sharing a pipe , and then Gandalf comes over and hands them each a broom.
Nick Sibilla *Looks at mumakil bodies* Well dayum, those must've been some big-ass brooms xD
Like in the old days during the Crusades you just dig a big ass hole start a fire and start rolling those fuckers in
Aragorn:- "Recognize this Big Sword, big man???"
Sauron:- "Recognize this girl, FAM!"
Sauron: Mr. Steal your girl. Hahahaha
Sauron playing the reverse uno card lol.
0:49 is proof that Sauron did take a physical form in this trilogy.
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Yes it is :)
Pj was planning on having aragorn fight a physical embodiment of sauron. It's actually on TH-cam, they filmed some of it but decided to scrap it because it strayed way too far from the book.
Mouth Of sauron true. It also took away from the main focus which was Sam and Frodo’s mission to destroy the ring.
Bruh yesss I was looking for these comments Sauron WASNT AN EYE if anything you was most likely using the palantir and his Magic’s to form an eye which I find quite suiting cause without the ring Sauron isn’t at his maximum potential and therefore he is afraid of anyone who might cut off his pinkie again speaking about that Sauron defiantly should have worn the ring under his armor
Aragorn: Behold the sword of Elendil!
Sauron: Behold your woman!
Aragorn: Shit
*Aragorn:* "You will know fear!"
*Sauron:* "Know it? I invented it."
0:07 camera work and lightning and how Viggo Mortensen moved; wow! Explains why the Lotr movies were so awarded for their cinematography among other great qualities
I have always intepreted Sauron speaking 0:30 to 0:36 and 0:53 to 0:56 as his 'Annatar' voice (the fair form he took to mislead the elves) and the voice from 0:56 to 1:03 as his true dark lord voice (the same as 'there is no life in the void, only.... death.)
Nice interpretation
Yeah, nobody ever mentions that this is the only time Sauron ever has a “normal voice”.
His talking to me mate lol
Who has keta (Bengali word) heal ya hoe fasa hella 53 silly bo (Bengali word) keta heal ya 56 ami ghor Gondu mishi means I mix your house with smelly
omg, compared to Rings of Power this dialogue is insane. He's also saying something in his Annathar voice before that, you know what's he saying ?
Even the sound effect when Aragon unfolds the cloth of the Palantir is amazing. Every single detail in the trilogy is spot on!
Agreed. The sound effects are awesome!
Amazing until Aragorn tries to bluff Sauron by facetiming a sword to Sauron. Sauron could have pointed out he no longer had a hand to cut off, but decides to go full gangster with Aragorn's elf chick. #MindGames
@@bl8388 except he DID bluff him - the point of that entire thing was to give the impression that Aragorn and Gondor hat grown arrogant and overconfident after their victory, so suaron would take the bait and attack them with their forces to crush them, so frodo and sam could get to mount doom
@@thahoule7924 You're right.
I just watched the extended version this week. This action distracted Sauron. Once Frodo and Sammy Gangrene got the ring to mount doom Smeegol, chomped the ring off and did a 2/10 dive into mount doom.
In the books, this happened immediately after Pippin looked into the stone. This causes Sauron to freak out because he knows a Hobbit has the Ring, and now the heir to Isildur with his reforged sword is taunting him through Saruman's Palantir. Hence why he invades Gondor before he is ready.
cool.you can see sauron hold his palantir here
+SkinoReturns 0:49 never saw that before so cool!
nice detail
***** Its his sprit nut he must some kind of telekinesis
+SkinoReturns Well Sauron isnt just the eye up top, by this time he has returned to his physical appearance and just uses the eye to watch Middle-Earth. Him himself is within Barad-dur holding the Palantir
I always thought that was a vision of Sauron forging the Ring like in the prologue of Fellowship
0:56 "One ring to rule them all. One ring to find them. One ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them."
Very wrong mate
I love how one of the few conversations Sauron has with a main character is him just having no chill whatsoever
How is nobody talking about the EPIC sound desing in this scene? 0:43, 0:49 and 1:02 is awesome!
Sauron's voice is spectacularly amazing.
I love the metallic sounds when he pulls out Anduril. Its as if 3 tons of steel were just swung and hit something. Really helps to instill the might it carries.
Sauron's voice is spectacular.
I like they included Sauron holding his own stone - as Sauron did have a physical body at this time
No he didn't. He's pretending to make him think he has the Ring.
@@Doncroft1 he did in the books, the flaming eye is a movie only thing
@@Doncroft1 He did have a physical body.
@Justin
In the books. Not the movies
@@Vexominous the flaming eye IS in the books
I love how Sauron gets easily offended by anything related to Isildur XD
imagine easily laying waste to half an army with a couple swings and you get cocky and reach for a man and he gets lucky and cuts off your fingers. I imagine during his rise back to power he must have been given himself a pep talk " ok Sauron remember when I get the ring back just keep swinging until everyone is dead, remember what happened last time you got complacent."
Elendil* isildur was kinda his bitch; it was elendil he feared
@@nintendogamer5472 He only got destroyed like that in the movies,in the books he had a epic fight with gil galad and elendil while Sauron won and killed both of them,he was also thrown down and even more diminished,since his physical form was in it’s weakest that time and was still regenerating.And then finally,isildur comes and picks up Narsil and approaches the thrown down body of sauron and he cut the ring from his finger,and Sauron needed the ring to stay in his physical form since he was significantly weakened from the destruction/sinking of Numenor.
It was more like "Oh my! Elendil's sword? Wait, I've got something in my pocket... here, your dead girlfriend"
Aragorn really pulled the “Hey my great grandad x39 beat your ass that one time remember?”
Aragorn: Behold the Sword of Elendil"
Sauron: *showing Arwen* "she calls me her dark lord ;)"
Basically Aragorn and Sauron just had a skype argument
One of the things I like about this, despite how the rest of the film depicts Sauron, is that it gives a nod to how he is in the books. In the movies he's a big suspended eyeball on top of Barad-Dur, which is not in the books. In the books he has once again taken his physical form.
In this scene just before we see Arwen in the Palantir, we see an image of Sauron armoured and holding his own Palantir up as he battles with Aragorn.
The fact that when Sauron sees the sword, for a moment shows his true (physical) self, instead of the eye. This tells me that his fear and surprise made him lose the illusion of "the eye" for just one second, thus confirming the eye is just an illusion and the real sauron is a person (for lack of a better word) holding a Palantir 24/7.
Good catch!
the eye was only visible to those who were under his control or had fought him
Guys, I get that you hate this change, but you really gotta accept that Sauron in Peter Jackson’s version is JUST the Eye.
You think because he saw a split second of his old body holding the palantir that must mean that’s actually him holding it?
He also showed a vision of a dead Arwen, and all know that was a lie. Him holding the palantir was just a vision signifying that he ALSO has a palantir (as in “two can play this game, Aragorn”)
Don’t believe me? Look at his hand. How many fingers are on it? If that’s his actual body, why aren’t any of his fingers missing?
Also, if you could, explain to me why book purists despise this change so much, despite the fact that you cannot have your villain cower in his fortress and NEVER show himself for three straight movies? Cause that’s not how film works.
@@Arander92 Well first, Sauron Body is completely destroyed when he is separated from the ring, so if he has corporial form, this is most likely a new body so the fingers would be regrown most likely. Seeing as he is a demi-god who can regrow his complete body, im fairly sure regrowing a couple fingers is well within his power, so that last argument is kinda weak.
But i do agree that Sauron is most likely only the eye in Peter Jackson's interpretation, i always looked at it this way: Sauron binded himself to the ring; his spirit dwells middle earth because the ring is still present, but to regain his corporial form, he needs to physically have it.
@@oblivionronin Well I only brought up the finger thing because book purists always bring it up. If he is demigod that regenerates, why is his finger still missing in the books? And if it’s missing in the books, why wouldn’t it be missing in the movies, had PJ not made the change? Food for thought
Finally, after three movies Aragon took a shower.
One of the greatest villains ever made and of all that Jackson did in his movies he did a fine job in interpreting him onscreen. Visually and sonically this is a magnificent scene.
I wonder if Arwen’s necklace literally smashed apart like that for real or it was something like a dream sequence that was supposed to metaphorically mean something. The whole thing felt like some kind of dream.
Fuck, what a dick move by Sauron. But it's so brilliant. Aragon showed him that he could be defeated, Sauron showed him the one thing he fears the most. Sauron basically said "You think you're so tough, let me show you how tough I am"
Sauron is a dick confirmed
Aragorn: "behold the sword of elendil"
Sauron: 0:53 "behold a pro gamer move"
I love the elegance, and power of Sauron's voice
Great scene with a great actor
Aragorn or Sauron?
0:30 Sauron :" Silivren penna Miriel"
00:30 - 00:36 This voice is worthy of Sauron!!!
0:55 is also super badass
Yes, my dear 'me' ❤
I like how this looks like Sauron is looking through his files to find the saved clip of Arwen dead.
For all the things these movies weren't, they are still among the best movies ever made.
It's impressive, powerful, and it makes you want to pick up a sword of your own.
This is a masterclass of sound design
It's amazing that an ancient magical artifact created before time was even measured that can see across the aeons of time and space can be foiled at the very last second by having a dishcloth thrown on top of it
I don't know why but the fact that we can see Sauron holding the Palantir gives shape to the terror of all three movies. I remember watching the movies and believing that Sauron did not have a body the entire time, and watching send chills down my spine
The best film of it's decade. Wonderful. I love the chanting from the orb. The director did a splendid job.
Many people here don't seem to realize that Sauron was as hard hit (if not harder) by Aragorn showing him the sword that defeated him.
People interpret it as he didn't care, but he actually was extremely shocked. Sauron is full of fear and the sword must've triggered extreme paranoia in him
He just went into full defense mode to hit Aragorn just as hard.
ringwraiths can paralyze a man with a look
it must be very disconcerting indeed to have a puny human looking at the Dark Lord and talk !@#$, rather than wailing in despair
who's to say whether the sword had to be special to take it's place in history... or rather the credit should go to the conviction of its wielder
Sauron feeds on vulnerability and rage while being very vulnerable and angry himself. That's why he's a lidless, flaming eye.
Wish they kept in the line where Aragorn basically said
"Sauron, even now, is not a being above fear."
Lol, no!. Not in the books! In the books, even Sauron's mere existence causes the mightiest high elves to flee or faint in terror and despair.
@@zehsackett6132 little nitpick: he's not literally a lidless eye, that's more of a movie invention. It's like saying Saruman is the White Hand.
Sauron was like : look who i have in My bed! Aragorn couldnt take it.
Oh no. Lol 🤣🤣
So Sauron was just swiping right on Tumblr?
The greatest "come at me, bro" moment in history.
I love how you see him slightly shiver as he's holding the Palantir to taunt Sauron with the sword. It's the same thing with Eowyn vs the Witch King, they're characters who are terrified but push on regardless.
See, this shows just how evil and sadistic Sauron is. Here comes the destined King of Gondor offering Sauron a challenge by combat and showing him that he is not afraid of him. And Sauron responds by showing Aragorn the truth, and that there is one thing he still fears more than Sauron, the love of his life dead. Thing is, that didn’t break Aragorn, in fact, it only gave him a new purpose, to make sure Frodo was given the time he needed to destroy the Ring.
Nope.
The way he just pulled his sword back to his right side just shows how devastated he is to look on such a sight. Even though it’s not happening, but it’s still terrifying. Shows how cunning Sauron is. He even tricked the Numenorians by playing prisoner to enter Numenor, and made them turn against each other.
LOTR The Return Of The King was a true masterpiece and Viggo Mortensen is perfect as Aragorn .
This scene was powerful .
This scene is one of my few qualms about the Extended Edition trilogy (which is otherwise an epic masterpiece!) - this scene makes it appear that Aragorn lost the battle of wills against Sauron, whereas in the books he won it quite handily, leaving Sauron in fear of HIS power rather than the other way around. Aragorn was the rightful master of the palantir, whereas Sauron was the one forcing it to his will.
The same here, sir.
Yeah plus he was clearly drained from the experience according to Legolas. The palantir were his by right, and it was an opportunity in the movie to show the inherent power of Aragorn from the line of kings. .
So true. To quote my favorite part from the book, where Gimli and Legolas are talking about Aragorn post-battle of Pelennor:
'Ere that dark day ended none of the enemy were left to resist us all were drowned,
or were flying south in the hope to find their own lands upon foot. Strange and
wonderful I thought it that the designs of Mordor should be overthrown by such
wraiths of fear and darkness. With its own weapons was it worsted!'
'Strange indeed,' said Legolas. 'In that hour I looked on Aragorn and thought how
great and terrible a Lord he might have become in the strength of his will, had he
taken the Ring to himself. Not for naught does Mordor fear him. But nobler is his
spirit than the understanding of Sauron; for is he not of the children of Lúthien?
Never shall that line fail, though the years may lengthen beyond count.'
From that, I always interpreted that to mean he could have very well been even more terrifying than Sauron in terms of using his indomitable will to tame what was within his right to have. And more, if he let the ring's evil ambitions run their course.
patrick henry There Are even more problems in the books
On a cinematic level, this works better. It gives the transition to marching on the Black Gate a level of ambiguity rather than reaffirmation that Aragorn will live and overcome Sauron. That bit of doubt makes the following battle all the more dire in tone.
Sauron: Silivren penna míriel, o menel aglar elenath!
Aragorn : Long have you hunted me. Long have I eluded you. No more. Behold the sworld of Elendil!
Sauron : *shows him dead Arwen* Silivren penna miriel, ombi kurgundum-ishi, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. *laugh*
What is the translaton for Saurons lines?
@@dimitrijemilicevic6747 part of it is the inscription of Sauron's Ring aka The One Ring; it's a dark form of Elvish that translates to "and in the darkness bind them"
@@dimitrijemilicevic6747 The first lines are from A Elbereth Gilthoniel, the traditional Elven funeral song. He's basically mockingly singing about the coming death of the Free Peoples, and in the first part of the second line, is specifically mocking the fact that Arwen is dying. The third part of the second line is the last part of the enscription of the One Ring 'And in the Darkness bind them.' He's referring to the fact that Arwen's fate is tied to that of the ring. The second part of the second line isn't exactly something that can be translated directly, but getting close is something like 'I'm going to specifically enjoy slaughtering her'.
Sauron is a massive fucking dick.
One thing I wish they had done in ROTK is show that Denethor had a palantir. In the book it explains why he is so defeatist because Sauron shows him all the armies being sent against him. In the movie his character is reduced to just being a jerk.
What it's incredible about Sauron is that HE KNOWS EVERYONE WELL. FRIENDS AS WELL AS ENEMIES.
The Eye of Sauron sees all.
Sauron's voice is amazing it sounds spectacular.
Lol, Sauron and Aragorn are basically having a medieval Skype chat XD
Those weird AKHH sounds, like Sauron is laughing really slowly while talking, so unsettling.
In case anyone is wondering, Sauron is saying "silivren penna miriel o menel aglar elenath" and then part of the ring verse in the black speech.
Why is it that he recites the elven verse, do you think ? Is he mocking it ?
Or maybe it's not Sauron saying it (it doesn't sound like the same voice)
David McCarthy Sauron is reciting verses from A Elbereth Gilthoniel, a Elvis hymn about star-goddess Varda also know as Elbereth Gilthoniel. The elves use it as something of prayer.
My takeaway from him using those lines is that Sauron’s intent is to mock Arwen who, like Varda, is known to be very beautiful.
I hope this helps!
And he's saying "burzum-ishi krimpatul" when he shows Aragorn Arwen, which means "and in the darkness bind them."
@@davidmccarthy4206 It sounds like Gandalf to me, which I interpret as Sauron getting in his head by imitating the voice of one of Aragorn's most trusted of friends.
I would point out that in the books, when facing Sauron through the palantír. Aragorn fought and *won* .
The movie did Sauron better justice in this scene than in the book imo. Shows that Sauron was no pushover u could just mock and walk away, but an actual threat who could break you by simply interracting with him
tl;dr :
Aragorn: "Hey"
Sauron: "What's up, bitch-to-be"
Aragorn: "Imma kick your ass"
Sauron: "You got nothing."
Aragorn: "I got your sword."
Sauron: "I got your bitch."
*drops Palantir*
Sauron: "Priceless."
Aragorn: "Behold the sword of Elendil!"
0:52
Sauron: "Oh yeah? Behold your BITCH!"
The extended editions are the true editions in my book. They add so many important scenes that were cut.
I've never even watched the theatrical edition of 'The Two Towers', only the extended edition.
Aragorn: Fuck you Sauron! You see this sword...
Sauron: You want escalation. Well you will receive escalation.
Proceeds to show aragorn’s dead wife
Random bystander: Well that escalated quickly.
@0:48.... Before now, I thought that the sight of Sauron in the Palantir was him remembering when Isildur cut the ring from his hand with Narsil, but I am now both corrected and amazed! I wasn't paying close enough attention to what that moment was really showing: Sauron had regained physical form and was holding the Ithil Stone! A very cool detail.
I noticed this too.
Sauron always regain his physical form no matter how many times he died.
Defeated by Huan? Sauron still had his chance to hide from Morgoth.
Drowned in Numenor? He just lost his fair form and went back to Mordor.
Killed by Elendil, Gil Galad and Isildur? He simply reformed in Dol Guldur.
Got his One Ring and fortress destroyed? He rose as a dark massive shadow in the sky until the Valar had enough of him and blew him away with their wind.
@@renabarca1328 which implies he could still come back
@@erichumphreys6656 Well, I believe Ren is incorrect about that last part, Sauron didn't actually return as a massive dark shadow, it was more like his remains, after the Ring was destroyed he had zero chance of EVER returning to Arda in physical form. His spirit simply lingered above Mordor and the Valar blew it away. It's HEAVILY implied Sauron could NEVER return after this. I'm pretty sure even as a massive shadow, he wouldn't have been able to interact with the denizens of Arda in any way. I think it was to serve as a reminder of Sauron's evil.
@@KarusMBIIsauron was probably sent to the void
This should have been in the theatrical release!
No. It added nothing to the movie.
+14Schofield I respectfully disagree. Aragorn's entire character arc is a story of him rejecting or not following his destiny and finally accepting it and of Gondor (the stewards) rejection of claims by Kings of Arnor to the throne of Gondor. Sadly while many parts of this movie trilogy are unbelievably good, these parts were not done well. There are three big steps to the first part in the books: Aragorn having the sword reforged when settling out from Rivendell, Aragorn challenging Eomer and his entire Eored' during the chase in book 2, and finally him taking the Palintir and not only using it but showing the sword reforged to Sauron and then breaking Sauron's will and claiming full control of it and using it showing his superiority to the Stewards. Those three key moments were done differently and in the last two cases "wrong." But no one is paying ME to make movies...LOL oh, and Gandalf losing his staff to the WitchKing.... ugh.
14Schofield I thought the point of this scene was to trick Sauron into thinking they were ready for war at the gate. They needed a distraction for Frodo, remember? Watch the end of the scene before this one.
Doesnt work for the pacing of the movie.
Then people wouldn't just assume that Sauron was just an eye the whole time.
0:49 the only time in the trilogy other than the prologue where we actually see Sauron take physical form.
Sauron: "yeah very interesting, anyway here is your dead wife"
0:47 Sauron is holding his own pilantir
He had regained his physical form by the end of return of the king
VideosNoOne then why didn’t he leave his tower and fight the combined armies of the west?
@@willcc19-18 Because Sauron isn't much of a fighter. He is more of a schemer who likes to manipulate others to do his bidding. People who don't read the books kinda get a wrong picture of him based on the first minutes of the first film. Actually they sieged his tower for 17 years before he came out and fought and that is when he still had the ring. Now he doesn't posess the ring and is not nearly as powerful so he won't come down himself. And why should he? The combined armies in the end were so much smaller than the armies of Mordor and seemed desperate. He just stayed back and waited for victory.
VideosNoOne yea I guess that would’ve played into Aragorn’s hand. Although how did Sauron gain physical form without the ring?
@@willcc19-18 He doesn't need the ring to get a physical form per se. It just means that because his powers are in it and it still habits middle earth he can regain his former glory. It is just a concentration of Saurons powers. He has lost his physical body before. He does not need the ring to do it.