Hi Daz. After watching your fantastic video a number of times I finally plucked up the courage to have a go at stripping down my Webley mk3. I bought it new 50 years ago and from memory it cost around £50. Back then it was and still is a treasured possession. After withdrawing the piston assembly I noticed that the washer was in much better condition than the one your video showed. It was still intact and the spring had a slight bend when withdraw from the spring guide. I thought well, while she's stripped down I would give the old-girl a birthday lift. I ordered a new spring and oil to soften down the new replacement washer. I had the washer soaking for three days and the leather washer had changed color but remained extremely ridged. I called Air gun spares and spoke to a knowledge chap how explained that " These washer are made to be fitted dry at first. by reducing the outside diameter, lip of the washer until it can be screwed inside the threads that secure the trigger mechanism when reassembling. When you have achieved a dry (no oil)slip movement on the washer assembly you the apply a few drops of oil the the face of the washer ONLY and replace the washer-block assembly back into the rifle body and leave overnight. This operation is then repeated until the washer block assembly achieves a good working seal. When I came to begin the final assembly I found it impossible to compress the new spring and and hold it in so I could screw the trigger assembly into the main rifle body. When I measured the old spring along side the new spring I discovered that the new spring was in fact an inch longer. Can you tell the correct length of spring that My Webley mk 3 requires as I have had to reassemble the rifle with the old spring. She still packs a wallop. I would like any advice on how to compress the new spring while screwing the trigger assembly home. She looks brand new ready to hand over to my grandson when the time comes. Shame about the new spring. Thank for taking the time to post your video's. Never ever forget that there will be other enthusiast's like myself who both enjoy and learn. Keep it up.
Hello P Harrington, If you have the confidence to take the old girl apart I hope you enjoy the process as much as I did. Thank you for sharing the advice about the assembly of the washer in the dry state initially too, I was not aware of this. Unfortunately I did not take any measurements of the main spring length at the time of making the video. Is there anyway you could freeze frame my video to count the number of coils on the spring to compare it to your original just to make sure that we both had the same spring to begin with. ( It looks like 30 coils to me ) I would also be mindful of the replacement springs energy too as you don't want excessive amounts of energy being released and going through the action of the rifle given it's age and potentially damaging some of the internals. Have you contacted John Knibbs International for their advice ? It might be just a case of acquiring the "Knack " to use some determined brute force compressing the spring into the cylinder and carefully engaging the threads on the trigger housing at the same time. I would always take care when dong this though for your own safety and to avoid stripping the threads.
That’s absolutely lovely. Another one saved. Well done. And so rewarding. I’ve got a webley & scott hawk mk11. It’s a 1977 The build quality is amazing stainless piston the engineering is fire arm quality machining 1970s military sights and interchangeable barrels. Early Webleys really are superb.
That's a great recollection John and thanks for sharing it on here. I bet it is worth so much to you in sentimental value above all else. There is something so special about these old spring air guns
Cheers Damien, It was an interesting restoration project to undertake and I would say to any one who was thinking about doing something similar, to give it a go.
The old Webley were very special. I saved my pistols. They're tooled like your Mk III. Beautiful works of art. Back in the 70s, we were able to purchase the Webley export rifles. Osprey and Hawk. They were up against the Sheridan pump rifles in the States. I had both, and a Weihrauch 35E. The osprey and hawk didn't hold up well. I wasn't so careful back then either. However, that started my quest into Spring-piston / break-barrel rifles. Good job on your Mk III.
Cheers Blakester, There is something special about a classic spring powered air rifle especially the ones from the 80's and earlier. I think we can forget about ourselves getting gradually older each day but then all of a sudden everything we took for granted way back then seems to become a collectors piece or a restoration project.
I have as much fun now as I did back in 1965. Of course, pcp is fun too. However, my heart is with spring-piston lately. I love my Air Arms .22 so much, I ordered the .177. Such a fine example of workmanship. Really getting my money's worth, even as expensive as they are, they are worth every penny. Using vintage optics too. Especially on well made spring-piston.
The older Dianawerks seem to have been made better. My old plain Jane M-34 .22 is a really great rifle. Same as the old M-75/ T-01. Love those, and they still shoot as great as Day one.
No pcp would last 40+ years - no sir ! Have my tx200 for 11 years and still shoots the same as the first day I took it out of the box (dare to say even better!). Built like a real gun (simple - reliable) which is the number one thing in my book (maybe because of my profession as an army man). This Webley is phenomenal! the cocking mechanism and the breach ! fantastic ! you don't see that level of engineering put into a spring air rifle today ....cheers.
Thanks very much for such a comprehensive restoration vid on such a classic air rifle. Got one myself in .22 and love it. Mine’s even older from 1959. But you’re a better man than me, all I’ve had to do / dared to do is to strip and oil the stock! I’d never be able to repair and make bits like you. Although my father-in-law would love to. Cheers again for a great video. 👍🏼
Thanks Aydin. Sounds like you have a proper classic airgun there from .....1959 ! amazing. Thanks for the comments too, I am not an expert in this field it's just a bit of fun and a hobby but thought I would share my project for others who may want to do similar repairs to their MK3
Great video . Really useful for which many thanks . I still have my rifle which was given to me on my 11th birthday ... I was and still am so proud of it. I recently bought another and have been greatly assisted by your video. It is all now in bits awaiting a new seal. BTW these are super accurate if held very lightly . Anything but a light hold will not work.
Loved the video. I managed to pick up a Service MK2 & a MK3 in absolutely mint condition for £1k. Don't know if it was a bargain but wasn't bothered by the money, saw the rifles & just had to have them. Both work, are consistent & shoot under 1" at 20yds with the right pellet 😁
Great little story there about the old springers and I'm sure they will always be an investment, and more so some thing to Cherrish for many years. You don't come across finds like this every day. Thanks for sharing 👍
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures you certainly don't, even managed to find a gun case for the MK2 plus I found a very tatty one which has been mutilated inside which I'm using as a guinea pig to see how they strip down 😁
@precisionairgunninghunting6265 The stripping down is always the fun part for me. John Knibbs International might stock spare parts if you needed any too. Also having a case to compliment a rifle is better for a potential buyer in years to come if you decided to sell it. There's something special about the simplicity of a spring airgun and what it basically does, but even simple maintenance with oils and lubricants is part of the pleasure of field target shooting. May be it's a man thing , I don't know...
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures definitely a man thing. I've only got back into springers since getting the MK2 & MK3 even though i have about £10k in a PCP set-up which is superb, these old springers just give so much pleasure in using them
@precisionairgunninghunting6265 That's some $$$££ dosh in PCP equipment 👍 I bet you are hitting the same hole at 30m consistently. I became a big fan of the Air Logic Genisis single stroke pneumatic in the early 90's. It's not everyone's cup of tea but personally I think it's a work of art and an Engineering masterclass of British craftsmanship
I could never do what you have done as far as the Rifles internals go....But Im going to track one down and bring the stock back to life and Blu what parts I can get at....Thank you for your brill video as its given me a project for the long winter months.....
Fantastic video. I still have mine & got a rat last night! As you mentioned, excellent quality throughout. A family heirloom & a little bit of history. For the record, my serial number 27250
Fantastic thanks Craig, I'm not sure what the number indicates as in what date and year of manufacture it was made as I don't have the book with all the serial numbers, although I guess this would be a good addition to the collection. They really are a great bit of British engineering.
I've got a Mark 3 that I bought in 1974 and it's still in good condition. However, the trigger pull is very heavy. Is it possible to adjust the trigger?
Hello Colonel, I didn't actually pay too much attention to the trigger action itself but the assembly is easily removed to get access to the parts. www.airgunspares.com/gunspares/airgun-spares/webley/mk-3-underlever.html i would recommend this link though for any parts you may need. It isn't an over complicated airgun so should be serviceable if you are confident to give things a go.
Cheers buddy, This one has taken a long time to come to fruition and just as long to edit, I actually forgot what order I did things in when putting the film together. I love getting my hands full of oil and grime too. It takes me back to my old engineering days.
H&N Field Target Trophy are very good in old Webley or BSA rifles too. They like a hard pellet if the seals and main spring are good. The modern BSA Elite or similar are good too as these are hard pellets. The H&N are softer but good in a soft sprung rifle with good seals. I would have used some breech seal on the loading tap before fitting. Nice refurbishment! Well done!
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures I have an older Mark3 and it is so air tight that you can cock the rifle, flip the breach plug up and holding onto the lever press the trigger and release the piston. It is so perfect that the lever can be released and it will not move! Obviously if the breach plug is opened it allows the mainspring to power the piston forward. The lever has to be held to prevent it snapping against the barrel. The workmanship is unbelievable. I think you can soak the leather piston in a leather oil, like linseed or better still Neatsfoot oil. It will preserve the washer and not cause the dieseling effect that you get with metal mineral oils. A light coating of graphite grease made by Bisley on the spring and guide is super slick. The breech plug can be sealed and lubricated with silicon grease by Abbey. The new Wasp pellets are made by H&N and they are excellent as are the RWS hollow points (actually also made by H&N). These are great in the old Webley's. Superb rifles!
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures You are welcome. I got a really lightweight dot sight with four reticule styles in green or red from the Shooting Party, which you will see advertised online or in any airgun magazine. They are usually Picatinny rails but yo can get adaptors to fit a narrower 9-11 rail or get a dovetail adaptor from John Knibbs place Countrystore I think it is called. These are around £30 and are much cheaper than a previous make that cost £140! Good for snap shooting. Cheers.
Ha ha ha that made me chuckle. Btw have you been keeping up with the TH-cam channel Hambini. He is getting videos blocked for his aggressive mantra about poor bike manufacturing processes and for targeting specific individuals in the bike game who are making unqualified opinions on things. He's not everyone's cuppa tea but he's a clever bloke. Cycling weekly have banned him too so he is exposing their technical editor.
MrDazP1 I’ll check him out. Watching a lot of Duncan McNutt and GCN until the main film maker returns 😄 Duncan is quirky in a good way. I know he follows you.
@@sophiescyclingandwalkingch4294 Yea Duncan's a good bloke he lives up on the north west coast somewhere. Be warned about Hambini ( he's direct as they come and blames it on his autism)
MrDazP1 yep I sussed Duncan was up that way from the backgrounds lakes/coast. I think he originates from near you though. Looking for recommendations for a maintenance stand. I am self employed so making a list of stuff to buy when I’m earning again. I have asthma so I may not re-start immediately when I’m allowed by the government. My distance to a student in car will be
@@sophiescyclingandwalkingch4294 I use a work stand from Decathlon and if you also watch Bike it UK on TH-cam he has the same one I do. They are priced right too. If you want to go the hole hog I would always recommend a Park tool cycling stand .$$
The early versions of the Lincoln Jeffries Patent rifles including BSA made ones had the tap handle on the right hand side. Even the sights are based on those from the Lincoln Jeffries Patent / BSA Improved Model D. But given what it's influenced by, you have a very good air rifle.
Thank you for sharing this information, it could be very useful to other viewers seeking information about the Rifle. They are definitely made to last and being individually hand made makes each one unique it it's own way.
Great restoration Mr D, & remember, the gun will still be "Dieseling" with all that excess oil & grease, so accuracy results will be even better once a couple of hundred or so rounds have been fired through it!!
Thanks for watching Mark and that's a good point you raised there about the gun dieseling after all the lubrication on the internals. It was a great project to work on with a lot of - "On the job learning " to do.
Leather piston cups went out with Square Wheels. I had a BSA Mercury with a Neoprene Piston Cup from New & (as a Tune up) I Lubed the Cylinder with "Triflon" Spray which coated the cylinder with a thin coat of Teflon. Don't get it your Mouth - It's poisonous!! The Spray has an applicator Tube which you insert into the Transfer Port.
@@felgate11 No way Martin, my old land rover has square wheels, their still the best! Seriously though, leather cup piston seals actually work quite well but they go dry and stiff over time, a couple of small drops of silicone oil applied through the transfer port occasionally keeps them supple. To be fair, modern synthetic parachute seals work better and are effectively maintenance free so they are just better overall.
You really ought to use 5.6mm pellets in that rifle. Modern 22s are 5.5mm and a really sloopy fit. Not many choices today but Wasp No 2 in the blue tin will be good enough. Older British made airguns in 22 calibre were made for this size of pellet. Nice rifle and great vid!
Thanks Peter, I normally use some Eley Wasp pellets in my reviews and a lot of people have advised that I try different pellets. My understanding was that they are always a bit tighter in the breach. Can't wait for the next air rifle
@@russellham2094 RWS Hobby are good value light weight pellets for lower power spring guns, I use them in my Cometa 5 which produces ~7ftlb. Bisley Practice (made by H&N) are similar, decent quality and light. I didn't realise older guns may need wider 5.6mm pellets. I used to shoot Marksman and Eley Wasp pellets with my first BSA Airsporter air rifle but tbh the quality was pretty awful compared with RWS, H&N and JSB pellets.
@@VV-ve1hd I do have a recoiless spring pistol to look at and film when I get around to it but it's been hard this year to do most things - specially the gold panning.
Thanks for the Video , currently restoring a Mk 3 , I bought a BSA scope for it but it won't fit the rail , just wondering which scope mounts you used ?
Best of luck with the project. I am not sure which brand of scope rail I used to be honest but it was a cracking rifle to strip down and work on PCC143
Hey Daz great vid 👍🏼 I restored my one & put a new spring in it & a new leather piston which i got from j knibbs , i did soak the leather but i think i used the leather cream & i dont think it soaked properly & it was an absolute pig to get back into the rifle , im thinking about resoaking it & starting again in the restoration , the spring dont seem as powerful as the original so im leaning to putting the original spring back in aswell, mine dont have any sort of scope rail or grooves to fit a scope so im happy with just the iron sights on it , I dont know when mine was made but the s/n is : 38826 there isnt any letters only these numbers . Would you know when mine was manufactured possibly? Thanks Paul
Hi Paul, check this link out, I am sure he will answer your question. th-cam.com/channels/Rp3CzI42iIMEfXhdOPMcbg.html Bt the way, I think the spot welded scope rail versions were the only poorly engineered part of these rifles.
Fantastic refurbished and i agree with every thing we need to gets then 80.000 found and made beautiful i have been shooting air rifles 57 years and every time i see these rifles i pick them up and i still get the..same feeling as i got my first rifle i love them, the big mistake was selling Webbly to a Turkish makers and i have lots of bad comments on quality control is very poor but there will be some that say its ok 👍 A great job done well
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Stephen, I agree with you about the old springers, they evoke a lot of old memories of plinking in the woods with my dad and my brother .
Hello Glen and best of luck with the Mk2 first of all. The green airgun bag was from Decathlon. They have a good hunting and fishing section in most stores.
Thanks so much for this video, I inherited a mk3 from my Grandad, fortunately it's been very well looked after, but one day I will need to have it apart for a service. Good to know how you went about it.👍🙂
Hello David, if it belonged to your grandfather then it adds a whole new sentimental value to you as it's rightful owner. Look after it, cherish it and if you get the chance, take it out every now and then to give it a good test in the field ( targets, that is )👍
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures Yes I shall cherish it for the rest of my life, it holds good memories. I have used it for rats in the past, but now normally baked bean tins, they aren't as quick as rats!🤣 This one I have doesn't have the top rail for the scope mounting.But it's a nice piece of traditional British craftsmanship. 🙂👍
A molybdenum based grease is ideally what you should use but if you are going to do a general home mechanics service I guess you would use what ever is available in the workshop. If the job can wait I would order a small tub of airgun grease to be on the safe side.
Hiya excellent video mine had most of the exact problems yours had can I ask what glue you used for the scope rail as it was thin enough to run beneath it and strong enough to hold most of the strong epoxy ones are like toffee
Hello B Jones I used a few different types of glue some were apoxy too but they didn't last that long due to the impact and shock from when the rifle was shot . Ideally you need to find a competent spot welder to re do the rails. This is the only cheap element about the rifle I could say was never thought through.
Hello Geoffrey, I think it was a Walnut dye made by colron and then finished the waxing with some car wax. I have used various beeswax too on my stocks. Best of luck with the restoration
Cheers buddy, look after them, they don't make em like this anymore. The airgun bag was from Decathlon which is a big multisport shopping outlet. They do literally everything. There are few in the NW of England .
Liked this video good restoration , I have got a bsa mercury bought brand new from Suggs in Sheffield when I was about 14 or 15 around 1974 carnt wait to get it off my dad and give it a refurb !
Beautiful rifle ! And great job restoring it The grouping is great for iron sights but I bet you can get the group tighter if you try different pellets. Every air rifle likes a certain pellet more than the other
Thanks for watching Jorge, I enjoy the challenge of making an old rifle work again and I was pleasantly surprised with the groupings. I don't shoot enough to be a crack shot, but it's great to get a few on target .
They are the 2 conventional calibers but there is a ..20 & .25 also. In general though a .177 will travel a bit quicker and have less of a drop over a typical range of 25 - 35m. .22 will have a more pronounced curve as it slows down through the later part of the range. Some pest control enthusiast may prefer the .177 for a flatter trajectory in the mid part of the range. Some do say that .20 is a good all round size but may not be as readily available. Most second hand airguns on the market are 177 or 22. I tend to have .22's but that is just the way things are with the airguns I have tried over the years.
@@cesare307 We are limited by law to 16.3 joules here in the UK. Go above this adn unless you have a firearms cert, you are liable to five years in jail..
Hi, my Webleky & Scott mark 3 is of the serial no A798, could you please help me with the date of this no. I tried searching on the net but couldn't find it. Your help will be a lot appreciated.
Great video i have seen this i am very happy because i have one mark 4 sir any different is their please know me my is in original condition but still it 40 years old and i want to replace its leather washer i am from india.thanks sir for your information.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures I got it off Harry in about Feb 18 and u got it off me when ur dad was in hospital in Halifax whenever that was. Great to see it looking so good
@@markjerham2478 great stuff. I remember the chats about it and then the 'When are you going to pick it up' conversations. 2 years in the making pal. Nice one. I need to find another rifle now. Stay safe pal.
Great video! I have my dad’s Mark 3 rifle and it seems in perfect condition and want to keep it that way. What case do you recommend? I want to use it but want to keep it clean and safe at the same time
Hello D Christophy, I tend to buy cheap airgun bags from Decathlon , I think they are about £10 but I guess, Just to give them some basic protection but you could invest in the ABS plastic type cases with the foam padding to create a custom fit for the MK3 . I'd keep it well oiled though when you put away under wraps,
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures thanks buddy. Have ordered a plastic hard case and a rust sachet for storage. I’ve never oiled a gun before. Do you have a video where you go through any basic maintenance like this including what kind of oil to buy?
@@Mr_Christophy I haven't got a specific video really D. But I recall talking to the genius of man from Accrington's Target Technics in Accrington - Richard Spencer , who said to use good old Duckhams 10w30 motor oil.
I have one of these,has seen better days! Tap missing, piston is different and the serial number is A4982 and Z4982. Also behind trigger guardand underneath is a brass plate. I have three different sized spring steel 'things' to protect foresight. Any good to anyone please? Thanks, Mike
I had one of these about 36 years ago I had it re-sprung with an updated spring so it was more powerful than standard nice sights and was very accurate even more with scopes but like most springers they are a bit noisy so maybe 1 rabbit or a pigeon etc and there all gone. Other than that nice clean job.
Hey thanks for sharing your story there. I don't think they were very powerful as a stock rifle but they were well made for sure. Was it an Ox spring you had fitted by any chance
Really nice restoration. A bipod might give a more consistant grouping. Might also try a polish of the barrel. I play airsoft and I am forever tinkering with my RIFs. Ive been playing 16 months and now have 2 x VSR (sniper) a glock, an MK23, an M4 and an ARP9 oh and a shotgun.
Sounds like you have a proper arsenal there. I noticed that the bluing didn't like the oil I rubbed on it and because of the periods I left this project in between filming, there were noticeable oxidisation blemishes re appearing. It's all a learning curve DEmma. Hope you are well and keeping yourself safe.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures When I mentioned polishing, I meant the inside. I assumed you cleaned the barrel but didnt show it (or I missed it). I know with airsoft, the inner barrel is crucial for accuracy although metal pellets possibly arnt as affected by dust and dirt in the same way a plastic BB is.
@@DEmma1972 Yes I gave the barrel a clean with a long stuff brush insert. I could do to find a way of polishing the cylinder wall that the piston goes down though. BTW during lockdown I have found an axe that I have brought back to life and a Swiss army penknife that was looking a bit tired. Stay tuned for these . They will be short little vids but hopefully a bit of fun too.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures Totally into restoration vids. I have several youtubers that restore stuff in my subscriptions. Variety is a good thing. I am not an avid watcher of your bike stuff but gold and detecting and now restorations. You are 1 of my fav tubers
Hi Daz I hope all is well. I have a Webley air gun that is similar to this. Unfortunately my friend passed away a few years ago and we used it a lot together so would like to see it back to its best. Got a bit of rust on the barrel but it still works. Pardon the pun but would there be any scope for you to restore it for me?
Hi pal, I'm flattered that you have asked me. Just be mindful of the Scottish airgun law though. Hope you are well pal. I am missing the gold panning pal. Lockdown and poor weather .......
I think you would do it justice after watching some of your restorations Daz👍🏻 the weather has been bad here but I got out today. High river levels and more rain!!!! Found a wee bit so I am happy😀 Uploaded a new vid a few hours ago!!
@@ScottishGoldHunter Nice one, I will watch it tomorrow when I get back home . That's something to look forward to for my Thursday night. I've been watching Northern Pickers too. He's getting well into the panning and has been to a few of the spots I have tried n' has found some nice gold.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures Yeah has been finding some nice gold at Tyndrum!! Think I am going to meet up with him in the springtime! You are more than welcome to join us if you are up for a trip to Scotland!
Hello Steve I used Bisley gun blue but it might be an idea to use different brands to see which one suits the steel on the rifle. Thanks for watching pal.
Great video 😁 I am from country of the European Union (Cyprus) can you tell me where you buy your parts because i want to restore my grandpa Webley mk3 !! Very nice gun with a lot of memories
Good vid mate, is there anything you cant get your hands on.lol I shoot with a mrk 2 phantom from crosman and love the feel, cant beat the feel of a wooden stock though.
Nice bit of kit pal. I like a none lacquered wooden stock because you can service them after the slightest scratch. It's part of life having a varied amount of interests buddy.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures I've just bought an Air Arms ProSport and my partner has a HW97. Both are great guns but you can see how ideas of the "underlever" came from the past with this and the BSA airsporter. All these classics need to be preserved in working order and are a testament to a different time.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures am not quite sure but I do have a picture of me holding it same loading at the top if I find it il send you the photo it's a good job I had trainers on or galoshers lol in those days
Hi, I am from India, I have a mark 3 webley air rifle which was given to me by my day 49 yrs ago... Cocking lever is missing and the butt is broken... Can I get a spare? I have friends in UK who can collect it.
Nice classic there Daz, good job on the restoration, looking real nice, can't beat the old British rifles for simple reliability, recently stripped and rebuilt my early model Air Arms - TX200 mk3 (.22 cal) which I have owned since new around 20 yrs ago, took me a while to get all the old grease out and replace a broken cocking shoe along with the piston seal though the strip and rebuild was easy enough compared to a more recent BSA lightning that was a 6 hour job though the BSA (Spanish Assembled) is a more recent rifle with all those awkward tamper proof parts the EU is forcing manufacturers to fit these days. The BSA is now performing smoother and quieter than new as she was in dire need of some grease and oil with grinding internals before I lubed her up. Two more on my list to acquire are the early model HW-77 and possibly a mk1 or mk2 TX200 preferably in .177 as I do prefer the springers in a non carbine format. Am surprised you didn't use Moly Grease for the spring, piston and cylinder, most spring rifle tinkerers swear by it.
The TX 200 is a knockout piece of kit and I remember when they first came out, was it that long ago !. It sounds like you have a passion for the sport there too. I used a teflon based grease which I use on my bikes etc but I know the grease you are talking about. I would like to get my hands on Diana 52 Firebird. My dad had one in the 1990"s and we think it was running a bit 'Hot'. Super side lever and of course a Springer. I have seen a model 35 too at a good price local to me. Another man's rifle looking at the size of it.
Should've used RWS Superdomes... Good enough for plinking and not too expensive... You'll not get s group with them you had.... Nice bit of work though. I think I'd have seen if I could have adapted or modified to a weihrauch piston and piston seal... Even if I had to turn the piston from scratch... wolf in sheep's clothing then...Thanks for sharing...
Cheers Ironman......I have used RWS before and they are a nice looking pellet. There's always a fine line between restoration and modifying. It amazes me though how a leather piston performs so well. The old methods were pretty good but it would be a great idea to get a little workshop lathe and turn some new pieces for the internals and retro fit custom parts. Thanks for watching and commenting pal.
If you kindly ask another TH-cam channel he will be able to give you the info as he has a book with all the serial numbers. The Channel is Field Sport Cymru I have a link in the description of this video kev.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures No sweat! It took a Yank all the way from the other side of the pond to point it out for you :).... . Hey, hop over to shoot some real firearms someday!
Good afternoon. I live in Kiev, Ukraine. A week ago, I got a Webley mk3, with number 33118. Please help me determine its date of birth. THANK YOU in advance!
Hi Daz. After watching your fantastic video a number of times I finally plucked up the courage to have a go at stripping down my Webley mk3. I bought it new 50 years ago and from memory it cost around £50. Back then it was and still is a treasured possession. After withdrawing the piston assembly I noticed that the washer was in much better condition than the one your video showed. It was still intact and the spring had a slight bend when withdraw from the spring guide. I thought well, while she's stripped down I would give the old-girl a birthday lift. I ordered a new spring and oil to soften down the new replacement washer. I had the washer soaking for three days and the leather washer had changed color but remained extremely ridged. I called Air gun spares and spoke to a knowledge chap how explained that " These washer are made to be fitted dry at first. by reducing the outside diameter, lip of the washer until it can be screwed inside the threads that secure the trigger mechanism when reassembling. When you have achieved a dry (no oil)slip movement on the washer assembly you the apply a few drops of oil the the face of the washer ONLY and replace the washer-block assembly back into the rifle body and leave overnight. This operation is then repeated until the washer block assembly achieves a good working seal. When I came to begin the final assembly I found it impossible to compress the new spring and and hold it in so I could screw the trigger assembly into the main rifle body. When I measured the old spring along side the new spring I discovered that the new spring was in fact an inch longer. Can you tell the correct length of spring that My Webley mk 3 requires as I have had to reassemble the rifle with the old spring. She still packs a wallop. I would like any advice on how to compress the new spring while screwing the trigger assembly home. She looks brand new ready to hand over to my grandson when the time comes. Shame about the new spring. Thank for taking the time to post your video's. Never ever forget that there will be other enthusiast's like myself who both enjoy and learn. Keep it up.
Hello P Harrington, If you have the confidence to take the old girl apart I hope you enjoy the process as much as I did.
Thank you for sharing the advice about the assembly of the washer in the dry state initially too, I was not aware of this. Unfortunately I did not take any measurements of the main spring length at the time of making the video. Is there anyway you could freeze frame my video to count the number of coils on the spring to compare it to your original just to make sure that we both had the same spring to begin with. ( It looks like 30 coils to me )
I would also be mindful of the replacement springs energy too as you don't want excessive amounts of energy being released and going through the action of the rifle given it's age and potentially damaging some of the internals.
Have you contacted John Knibbs International for their advice ?
It might be just a case of acquiring the "Knack " to use some determined brute force compressing the spring into the cylinder and carefully engaging the threads on the trigger housing at the same time.
I would always take care when dong this though for your own safety and to avoid stripping the threads.
Please keep me and others informed of your progress and thanks for great comments......
I am the proud owner of a 1946 Webley mk III myself, very nice gun handed down through the generations to me and I have had a lot of fun out of it
That's great to hear and thank you for sharing this with us Sam. Look after it and cherish it 👍
Sir, you have brought back so many childhood memories for me, plinking in the back garden with my Dad. Thank you.
My pleasure, Thanks for the comments Graham
That’s absolutely lovely. Another one saved. Well done. And so rewarding.
I’ve got a webley & scott hawk mk11. It’s a 1977 The build quality is amazing stainless piston the engineering is fire arm quality machining 1970s military sights and interchangeable barrels. Early Webleys really are superb.
That sounds like a lovely airgun Dave.
You can't beat a classic springer .
Thanks for sharing your story 👍
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures
where about in the country are you I’m guessing Manchester way.
Yes Dave, I am in the Manchester area.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures if your anywhere near me some of guns maybe a interest to you.
I have a beautiful mk1. I'm 77. My first gun that I had for my 10th Christmas was the Webley. It cost £12. 18 shillings in 1956.
That's a great recollection John and thanks for sharing it on here.
I bet it is worth so much to you in sentimental value above all else.
There is something so special about these old spring air guns
Really enjoyed watching you restore the Webley, thank you.
Cheers Damien, It was an interesting restoration project to undertake and I would say to any one who was thinking about doing something similar, to give it a go.
The old Webley were very special. I saved my pistols. They're tooled like your Mk III. Beautiful works of art.
Back in the 70s, we were able to purchase the Webley export rifles. Osprey and Hawk. They were up against the Sheridan pump rifles in the States. I had both, and a Weihrauch 35E. The osprey and hawk didn't hold up well. I wasn't so careful back then either. However, that started my quest into Spring-piston / break-barrel rifles. Good job on your Mk III.
Cheers Blakester, There is something special about a classic spring powered air rifle especially the ones from the 80's and earlier. I think we can forget about ourselves getting gradually older each day but then all of a sudden everything we took for granted way back then seems to become a collectors piece or a restoration project.
I have as much fun now as I did back in 1965. Of course, pcp is fun too. However, my heart is with spring-piston lately. I love my Air Arms .22 so much, I ordered the .177. Such a fine example of workmanship. Really getting my money's worth, even as expensive as they are, they are worth every penny. Using vintage optics too. Especially on well made spring-piston.
Good to hear, my dad had a Diana 52 Firebird, now that was a powerful piece of kit and a proper nice gun.
The older Dianawerks seem to have been made better. My old plain Jane M-34 .22 is a really great rifle. Same as the old M-75/ T-01. Love those, and they still shoot as great as Day one.
No pcp would last 40+ years - no sir ! Have my tx200 for 11 years and still shoots the same as the first day I took it out of the box (dare to say even better!). Built like a real gun (simple - reliable) which is the number one thing in my book (maybe because of my profession as an army man). This Webley is phenomenal! the cocking mechanism and the breach ! fantastic ! you don't see that level of engineering put into a spring air rifle today ....cheers.
Thanks Yannis, I totally agree with your sentiments. I love a Springer too . Thank you for watching and commenting.
you dont own a rapid 7 then
Yes Yannis, I totally agree with you. These spring air rifles were built to last by proper engineers.
I don't own a rapid 7, they were the bees knees back in the day
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures they still are, i have one
Great video! The gun is old school and so are you, thanks a lot...
I will take that as a compliment graycue
Thanks very much for such a comprehensive restoration vid on such a classic air rifle. Got one myself in .22 and love it. Mine’s even older from 1959. But you’re a better man than me, all I’ve had to do / dared to do is to strip and oil the stock! I’d never be able to repair and make bits like you. Although my father-in-law would love to. Cheers again for a great video. 👍🏼
Thanks Aydin. Sounds like you have a proper classic airgun there from .....1959 ! amazing. Thanks for the comments too, I am not an expert in this field it's just a bit of fun and a hobby but thought I would share my project for others who may want to do similar repairs to their MK3
Great video . Really useful for which many thanks . I still have my rifle which was given to me on my 11th birthday ... I was and still am so proud of it. I recently bought another and have been greatly assisted by your video. It is all now in bits awaiting a new seal. BTW these are super accurate if held very lightly . Anything but a light hold will not work.
Great to here your story Mr B. They are a nice rifle to work on and well made. Best of luck with your latest restoration and thanks for the comments.
I enjoyed watching the video it was excellent put over well
Thanks Paul, it was a nice little project to do.
Loved the video. I managed to pick up a Service MK2 & a MK3 in absolutely mint condition for £1k. Don't know if it was a bargain but wasn't bothered by the money, saw the rifles & just had to have them. Both work, are consistent & shoot under 1" at 20yds with the right pellet 😁
Great little story there about the old springers and I'm sure they will always be an investment, and more so some thing to Cherrish for many years.
You don't come across finds like this every day.
Thanks for sharing 👍
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures you certainly don't, even managed to find a gun case for the MK2 plus I found a very tatty one which has been mutilated inside which I'm using as a guinea pig to see how they strip down 😁
@precisionairgunninghunting6265 The stripping down is always the fun part for me. John Knibbs International might stock spare parts if you needed any too.
Also having a case to compliment a rifle is better for a potential buyer in years to come if you decided to sell it.
There's something special about the simplicity of a spring airgun and what it basically does, but even simple maintenance with oils and lubricants is part of the pleasure of field target shooting. May be it's a man thing , I don't know...
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures definitely a man thing. I've only got back into springers since getting the MK2 & MK3 even though i have about £10k in a PCP set-up which is superb, these old springers just give so much pleasure in using them
@precisionairgunninghunting6265 That's some $$$££ dosh in PCP equipment 👍
I bet you are hitting the same hole at 30m consistently.
I became a big fan of the Air Logic Genisis single stroke pneumatic in the early 90's.
It's not everyone's cup of tea but personally I think it's a work of art and an Engineering masterclass of British craftsmanship
I could never do what you have done as far as the Rifles internals go....But Im going to track one down and bring the stock back to life and Blu what parts I can get at....Thank you for your brill video as its given me a project for the long winter months.....
That's a great idea, I love a good winter project. Let me know how you get on buddy
Fantastic video. I still have mine & got a rat last night! As you mentioned, excellent quality throughout. A family heirloom & a little bit of history.
For the record, my serial number 27250
Fantastic thanks Craig, I'm not sure what the number indicates as in what date and year of manufacture it was made as I don't have the book with all the serial numbers, although I guess this would be a good addition to the collection. They really are a great bit of British engineering.
A very enjoyable and informative video. Thank you.
Thank you Terrence , it was a great little project.
Superb .....you know your way round them ...lovely job.....Cheers
Cheers buddy, I kind of learned on the go. They are actually not too bad to work on.
I've got a Mark 3 that I bought in 1974 and it's still in good condition. However, the trigger pull is very heavy. Is it possible to adjust the trigger?
Hello Colonel, I didn't actually pay too much attention to the trigger action itself but the assembly is easily removed to get access to the parts. www.airgunspares.com/gunspares/airgun-spares/webley/mk-3-underlever.html i would recommend this link though for any parts you may need. It isn't an over complicated airgun so should be serviceable if you are confident to give things a go.
Super video. (I can't imagine how much thought an effort must go into creating one as good as this) Totally enjoyed watching it. Thnx Dazzo
Cheers buddy, This one has taken a long time to come to fruition and just as long to edit, I actually forgot what order I did things in when putting the film together. I love getting my hands full of oil and grime too. It takes me back to my old engineering days.
H&N Field Target Trophy are very good in old Webley or BSA rifles too. They like a hard pellet if the seals and main spring are good. The modern BSA Elite or similar are good too as these are hard pellets. The H&N are softer but good in a soft sprung rifle with good seals. I would have used some breech seal on the loading tap before fitting. Nice refurbishment! Well done!
Thanks for the info Rod, I am an occasion field target shooter and enjoy to tinker with things .
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures I have an older Mark3 and it is so air tight that you can cock the rifle, flip the breach plug up and holding onto the lever press the trigger and release the piston. It is so perfect that the lever can be released and it will not move! Obviously if the breach plug is opened it allows the mainspring to power the piston forward. The lever has to be held to prevent it snapping against the barrel. The workmanship is unbelievable. I think you can soak the leather piston in a leather oil, like linseed or better still Neatsfoot oil. It will preserve the washer and not cause the dieseling effect that you get with metal mineral oils. A light coating of graphite grease made by Bisley on the spring and guide is super slick. The breech plug can be sealed and lubricated with silicon grease by Abbey. The new Wasp pellets are made by H&N and they are excellent as are the RWS hollow points (actually also made by H&N). These are great in the old Webley's. Superb rifles!
Thank you so much again there Rod, this kind of information is really useful especially for other people who watch the video.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures You are welcome. I got a really lightweight dot sight with four reticule styles in green or red from the Shooting Party, which you will see advertised online or in any airgun magazine. They are usually Picatinny rails but yo can get adaptors to fit a narrower 9-11 rail or get a dovetail adaptor from John Knibbs place Countrystore I think it is called. These are around £30 and are much cheaper than a previous make that cost £140! Good for snap shooting. Cheers.
Great to hear your voice again Daz. Great craftsmanship. I know NOWT about air riffles but I’ve concluded sock length on a road bike should be 16mm 😉
Ha ha ha that made me chuckle. Btw have you been keeping up with the TH-cam channel Hambini. He is getting videos blocked for his aggressive mantra about poor bike manufacturing processes and for targeting specific individuals in the bike game who are making unqualified opinions on things. He's not everyone's cuppa tea but he's a clever bloke. Cycling weekly have banned him too so he is exposing their technical editor.
MrDazP1 I’ll check him out. Watching a lot of Duncan McNutt and GCN until the main film maker returns 😄 Duncan is quirky in a good way. I know he follows you.
@@sophiescyclingandwalkingch4294 Yea Duncan's a good bloke he lives up on the north west coast somewhere. Be warned about Hambini ( he's direct as they come and blames it on his autism)
MrDazP1 yep I sussed Duncan was up that way from the backgrounds lakes/coast. I think he originates from near you though.
Looking for recommendations for a maintenance stand. I am self employed so making a list of stuff to buy when I’m earning again. I have asthma so I may not re-start immediately when I’m allowed by the government. My distance to a student in car will be
@@sophiescyclingandwalkingch4294 I use a work stand from Decathlon and if you also watch Bike it UK on TH-cam he has the same one I do. They are priced right too. If you want to go the hole hog I would always recommend a Park tool cycling stand .$$
The early versions of the Lincoln Jeffries Patent rifles including BSA made ones had the tap handle on the right hand side.
Even the sights are based on those from the Lincoln Jeffries Patent / BSA Improved Model D.
But given what it's influenced by, you have a very good air rifle.
Thank you for sharing this information, it could be very useful to other viewers seeking information about the Rifle.
They are definitely made to last and being individually hand made makes each one unique it it's own way.
I was offered a LJ in mint condition with engraved trigger guard but turned it down, though i may still get it, he does have two 😂
Job very well done mate. *Gold Star* to you. Rob
Cheers Rob thanks for watching and commenting. I enjoyed this project.
Nice restoration and not bad shooting 😉👍
Thanks Paul, This project took a long time in the making and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Great restoration Mr D, & remember, the gun will still be "Dieseling" with all that excess oil & grease, so accuracy results will be even better once a couple of hundred or so rounds have been fired through it!!
Thanks for watching Mark and that's a good point you raised there about the gun dieseling after all the lubrication on the internals. It was a great project to work on with a lot of - "On the job learning " to do.
Leather piston cups went out with Square Wheels. I had a BSA Mercury with a Neoprene Piston Cup from New & (as a Tune up) I Lubed the Cylinder with "Triflon" Spray which coated the cylinder with a thin coat of Teflon. Don't get it your Mouth - It's poisonous!! The Spray has an applicator Tube which you insert into the Transfer Port.
Ok cheers Martin. Some good tips there. Always appreciated buddy
@@felgate11 No way Martin, my old land rover has square wheels, their still the best! Seriously though, leather cup piston seals actually work quite well but they go dry and stiff over time, a couple of small drops of silicone oil applied through the transfer port occasionally keeps them supple. To be fair, modern synthetic parachute seals work better and are effectively maintenance free so they are just better overall.
Thoroughly enjoyed that me old cocker. Keep em comin.
Thanks for that. It was a nice project to work on.
Great video. That rifle was made on my birthday 😃
No way !, Thanks for watching.
You really ought to use 5.6mm pellets in that rifle. Modern 22s are 5.5mm and a really sloopy fit. Not many choices today but Wasp No 2 in the blue tin will be good enough. Older British made airguns in 22 calibre were made for this size of pellet. Nice rifle and great vid!
Thanks Peter, I normally use some Eley Wasp pellets in my reviews and a lot of people have advised that I try different pellets. My understanding was that they are always a bit tighter in the breach. Can't wait for the next air rifle
I have a bsa cadet major built in 1948 and that only likes wasp .177. If you go into a modern gunshop and ask for true .177 they give you a blank look
I have a very early model, pre scope dumbbell rail. It likes Super domes and Hobby pellets
@@russellham2094 RWS Hobby are good value light weight pellets for lower power spring guns, I use them in my Cometa 5 which produces ~7ftlb. Bisley Practice (made by H&N) are similar, decent quality and light. I didn't realise older guns may need wider 5.6mm pellets. I used to shoot Marksman and Eley Wasp pellets with my first BSA Airsporter air rifle but tbh the quality was pretty awful compared with RWS, H&N and JSB pellets.
Funny you say that as i noticed the 5.5 superpoint seem a little slack in the chamber
Hi MrDazp1 thank you for making this video that air rifle is so asome I really enjoy your video from seattle wa usa
Hey cheers VV and thanks for commenting. You can't beat a classic spring air rifle.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures hay MrDazp1 I often watch your air rifle videos I enjoy them very much I hope you make more! thank you! V
@@VV-ve1hd I do have a recoiless spring pistol to look at and film when I get around to it but it's been hard this year to do most things - specially the gold panning.
Thanks for the Video , currently restoring a Mk 3 , I bought a BSA scope for it but it won't fit the rail , just wondering which scope mounts you used ?
Best of luck with the project. I am not sure which brand of scope rail I used to be honest but it was a cracking rifle to strip down and work on PCC143
Hey Daz great vid 👍🏼
I restored my one & put a new spring in it & a new leather piston which i got from j knibbs , i did soak the leather but i think i used the leather cream & i dont think it soaked properly & it was an absolute pig to get back into the rifle , im thinking about resoaking it & starting again in the restoration , the spring dont seem as powerful as the original so im leaning to putting the original spring back in aswell, mine dont have any sort of scope rail or grooves to fit a scope so im happy with just the iron sights on it ,
I dont know when mine was made but the s/n is : 38826 there isnt any letters only these numbers . Would you know when mine was manufactured possibly?
Thanks
Paul
Hi Paul, check this link out, I am sure he will answer your question. th-cam.com/channels/Rp3CzI42iIMEfXhdOPMcbg.html
Bt the way, I think the spot welded scope rail versions were the only poorly engineered part of these rifles.
Hi where can I order piston seals for my the webley mark 3 .177 air rifle
Try this shop www.airgunspares.com/
Great video thanks for posting can you tell me what bluing did you use cheers
I used a Bisley blueing compound JB but it's always worth trying different brands for the best effect. Thanks for watching , cheers.
Fantastic refurbished and i agree with every thing we need to gets then 80.000 found and made beautiful i have been shooting air rifles 57 years and every time i see these rifles i pick them up and i still get the..same feeling as i got my first rifle i love them, the big mistake was selling Webbly to a Turkish makers and i have lots of bad comments on quality control is very poor but there will be some that say its ok 👍 A great job done well
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Stephen, I agree with you about the old springers, they evoke a lot of old memories of plinking in the woods with my dad and my brother .
Hi liking the resto...currently doing a 67 mk 2 airsporter myself. Liked the slip you had for the webley at the start, where did you buy it pls?
Hello Glen and best of luck with the Mk2 first of all. The green airgun bag was from Decathlon. They have a good hunting and fishing section in most stores.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures thanks for the info, I'll be hitting decathlon at the weekend! Also have a 1906 brittania awaiting a little TLC!
1906 ! That is an old collectors piece
Thanks so much for this video, I inherited a mk3 from my Grandad, fortunately it's been very well looked after, but one day I will need to have it apart for a service. Good to know how you went about it.👍🙂
Hello David, if it belonged to your grandfather then it adds a whole new sentimental value to you as it's rightful owner.
Look after it, cherish it and if you get the chance, take it out every now and then to give it a good test in the field ( targets, that is )👍
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures Yes I shall cherish it for the rest of my life, it holds good memories. I have used it for rats in the past, but now normally baked bean tins, they aren't as quick as rats!🤣
This one I have doesn't have the top rail for the scope mounting.But it's a nice piece of traditional British craftsmanship. 🙂👍
Very true about the British craftsmanship and the scope rail was a the only poor part of the riffle ironically
Is mobil 1 grease suitable for the outside of the piston Thanks
A molybdenum based grease is ideally what you should use but if you are going to do a general home mechanics service I guess you would use what ever is available in the workshop. If the job can wait I would order a small tub of airgun grease to be on the safe side.
Hiya excellent video mine had most of the exact problems yours had can I ask what glue you used for the scope rail as it was thin enough to run beneath it and strong enough to hold most of the strong epoxy ones are like toffee
Hello B Jones I used a few different types of glue some were apoxy too but they didn't last that long due to the impact and shock from when the rifle was shot . Ideally you need to find a competent spot welder to re do the rails. This is the only cheap element about the rifle I could say was never thought through.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures excellent thank you for getting back to me appreciated
Nice vid to watch, have just acquired a MK3 starting to do a clean-up on the stock. Interesting to know what stain and polish you used, thanks
Hello Geoffrey, I think it was a Walnut dye made by colron and then finished the waxing with some car wax. I have used various beeswax too on my stocks.
Best of luck with the restoration
Great video lovely rifle I have a webley mrk3 22 still works perfectly but neads restoring up for sale no longer used
They can go for a tidy penny if in good nik Gavin. Thanks for watching and commenting buddy.
Another great little video
Thanks Gary I have done a proper strip down of a Westlake B2 which I need to edit.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures great stuff, look forward to that one too
Awesome video, I've just got a MK3 in mint condition, along with a mint condition Service MK2. May I ask what make etc is the case? Cheers
Cheers buddy, look after them, they don't make em like this anymore.
The airgun bag was from Decathlon which is a big multisport shopping outlet. They do literally everything. There are few in the NW of England .
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures that's awesome, thank you. Even better we have a Decathlon 8miles away 😀👍
Liked this video good restoration , I have got a bsa mercury bought brand new from Suggs in Sheffield when I was about 14 or 15 around 1974 carnt wait to get it off my dad and give it a refurb !
1974 ! Amazing stuff. Take your time and give it a proper fettle. Let me know how you get on. Best of luck buddy. Cheers.
👌👌👌👌👌👌.... Nice airgun restoration 😊
Thanks for the feedback , very much appreciated buddy.
Hi, How did you manage to date and age your air rifle
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Beautiful rifle ! And great job restoring it
The grouping is great for iron sights but I bet you can get the group tighter if you try different pellets. Every air rifle likes a certain pellet more than the other
Thanks for watching Jorge, I enjoy the challenge of making an old rifle work again and I was pleasantly surprised with the groupings. I don't shoot enough to be a crack shot, but it's great to get a few on target .
Used to have the webley stingray that thing was a beast
I remember them David, nice airgun !
Is .22 or .177 better for someone new to airguns?
They are the 2 conventional calibers but there is a ..20 & .25 also. In general though a .177 will travel a bit quicker and have less of a drop over a typical range of 25 - 35m.
.22 will have a more pronounced curve as it slows down through the later part of the range. Some pest control enthusiast may prefer the .177 for a flatter trajectory in the mid part of the range.
Some do say that .20 is a good all round size but may not be as readily available. Most second hand airguns on the market are 177 or 22.
I tend to have .22's but that is just the way things are with the airguns I have tried over the years.
How many joules of power does the rifle have?
Probably about 10.5 ft/lb
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures So few???
I have Diana 52 and her has 26 joule
@@cesare307 We are limited by law to 16.3 joules here in the UK. Go above this adn unless you have a firearms cert, you are liable to five years in jail..
@caerleon87 thanks for sharing the info 🙂👌
Amazing job
Thanks Paul,
New to you. Think this vid is great..keep them comeing
Thanks Wayne, I am into a lot of things 👍
Hi, my Webleky & Scott mark 3 is of the serial no A798, could you please help me with the date of this no. I tried searching on the net but couldn't find it. Your help will be a lot appreciated.
Hi , if you check this channel out the guy might be able to help you pal th-cam.com/channels/Rp3CzI42iIMEfXhdOPMcbg.htmlabout
Thanks alot. ☺️👍
@@t-tecvlogs He helped me out with my rifle. If you get a reply let us know how hold it is.
Surely I will ☺️👍
Great video i have seen this i am very happy because i have one mark 4 sir any different is their please know me my is in original condition but still it 40 years old and i want to replace its leather washer i am from india.thanks sir for your information.
I hope this video helps you Ayaz and thank you for watching .
The last one was made the day and year I was born. and Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen was number 1 in the charts! christ, I feel old!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts buddy.
I have one & it's my favorite model
They are a great classic airgun
Very nice job.. Sir..
Thanks JL, I appreciate your comments.
Nice job
Thanks
fantastic only word for it mate. thmbs up subbed an bell on all new vids. thanks mate
Thanks Dave, this was a great little project to work on
Great vid mate 👍👍👍👍👍
How long ago was it when we spoke about his airgun - 2018?
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures I got it off Harry in about Feb 18 and u got it off me when ur dad was in hospital in Halifax whenever that was. Great to see it looking so good
@@markjerham2478 great stuff. I remember the chats about it and then the 'When are you going to pick it up' conversations. 2 years in the making pal. Nice one. I need to find another rifle now. Stay safe pal.
Good vid Daz 👍🏻
Thanks for watching it buddy. This was cracking little project.
You dont need sand paper best is a scothbright medium wheel removes rust and old bluetec with out scratching
Thanks for sharing
Great video! I have my dad’s Mark 3 rifle and it seems in perfect condition and want to keep it that way. What case do you recommend? I want to use it but want to keep it clean and safe at the same time
Hello D Christophy, I tend to buy cheap airgun bags from Decathlon , I think they are about £10 but I guess, Just to give them some basic protection but you could invest in the ABS plastic type cases with the foam padding to create a custom fit for the MK3 . I'd keep it well oiled though when you put away under wraps,
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures thanks buddy. Have ordered a plastic hard case and a rust sachet for storage. I’ve never oiled a gun before. Do you have a video where you go through any basic maintenance like this including what kind of oil to buy?
@@Mr_Christophy I haven't got a specific video really D. But I recall talking to the genius of man from Accrington's Target Technics in Accrington - Richard Spencer , who said to use good old Duckhams 10w30 motor oil.
Nice restoration. What bluing fluid do you use?
Hello Oliver I had some Bisley bluing paste on this one. Thanks for watching.
I have one of these,has seen better days! Tap missing, piston is different and the serial number is A4982 and Z4982.
Also behind trigger guardand underneath is a brass plate. I have three different sized spring steel 'things' to protect foresight.
Any good to anyone please?
Thanks, Mike
I hope someone spots your post pal , you never know who might be interested.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures Thanks! The woodwork iis good, but the tap is missing. If anyone needs a picture, please contact me!
Best to all
@@mikedrinkwater1008 the taps are available but might need some fettling to get a perfect fit.
I had one of these about 36 years ago I had it re-sprung with an updated spring so it was more powerful than standard nice sights and was very accurate even more with scopes but like most springers they are a bit noisy so maybe 1 rabbit or a pigeon etc and there all gone. Other than that nice clean job.
Hey thanks for sharing your story there. I don't think they were very powerful as a stock rifle but they were well made for sure. Was it an Ox spring you had fitted by any chance
Yes like oke good welll
Really nice restoration. A bipod might give a more consistant grouping. Might also try a polish of the barrel. I play airsoft and I am forever tinkering with my RIFs. Ive been playing 16 months and now have 2 x VSR (sniper) a glock, an MK23, an M4 and an ARP9 oh and a shotgun.
Sounds like you have a proper arsenal there. I noticed that the bluing didn't like the oil I rubbed on it and because of the periods I left this project in between filming, there were noticeable oxidisation blemishes re appearing. It's all a learning curve DEmma. Hope you are well and keeping yourself safe.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures When I mentioned polishing, I meant the inside. I assumed you cleaned the barrel but didnt show it (or I missed it). I know with airsoft, the inner barrel is crucial for accuracy although metal pellets possibly arnt as affected by dust and dirt in the same way a plastic BB is.
@@DEmma1972 Yes I gave the barrel a clean with a long stuff brush insert. I could do to find a way of polishing the cylinder wall that the piston goes down though. BTW during lockdown I have found an axe that I have brought back to life and a Swiss army penknife that was looking a bit tired. Stay tuned for these . They will be short little vids but hopefully a bit of fun too.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures Totally into restoration vids. I have several youtubers that restore stuff in my subscriptions. Variety is a good thing. I am not an avid watcher of your bike stuff but gold and detecting and now restorations. You are 1 of my fav tubers
Hi Daz I hope all is well. I have a Webley air gun that is similar to this. Unfortunately my friend passed away a few years ago and we used it a lot together so would like to see it back to its best. Got a bit of rust on the barrel but it still works. Pardon the pun but would there be any scope for you to restore it for me?
Hi pal, I'm flattered that you have asked me. Just be mindful of the Scottish airgun law though. Hope you are well pal. I am missing the gold panning pal. Lockdown and poor weather .......
I think you would do it justice after watching some of your restorations Daz👍🏻 the weather has been bad here but I got out today. High river levels and more rain!!!! Found a wee bit so I am happy😀 Uploaded a new vid a few hours ago!!
@@ScottishGoldHunter Nice one, I will watch it tomorrow when I get back home . That's something to look forward to for my Thursday night. I've been watching Northern Pickers too. He's getting well into the panning and has been to a few of the spots I have tried n' has found some nice gold.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures Yeah has been finding some nice gold at Tyndrum!! Think I am going to meet up with him in the springtime! You are more than welcome to join us if you are up for a trip to Scotland!
@@ScottishGoldHunter I could do with a trip back up there pal.
At what range were you shooting
About 25 yards I reckon, any more and wouldn't be able to hit the target.
Great video - where did you date the rifle? Had a look around…
I found a channel on TH-cam from Wales who has a book with the listings. I think I made a link in the description .
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures hiya / is that @fieldsport cymru?
Or how can I tell how old it is by serial number? Please
You could ask th-cam.com/channels/Rp3CzI42iIMEfXhdOPMcbg.htmlabout/about
He knows a lot about air guns
Great restoration and well worth the effort, may I ask, which brand of Gun Blue did you use please? it looks to have worked well on your MK3.
Hello Steve I used Bisley gun blue but it might be an idea to use different brands to see which one suits the steel on the rifle. Thanks for watching pal.
My kind of channel. New sub👍👍👍
Hey cheers buddy, there's always something going on and I Appreciate the sub .
Great video 😁
I am from country of the European Union (Cyprus) can you tell me where you buy your parts because i want to restore my grandpa Webley mk3 !! Very nice gun with a lot of memories
www.airgunspares.com/gunspares/airgun-spares/webley/mk-3-underlever.html try this link Calm Dingo.
Good vid mate, is there anything you cant get your hands on.lol I shoot with a mrk 2 phantom from crosman and love the feel, cant beat the feel of a wooden stock though.
Nice bit of kit pal. I like a none lacquered wooden stock because you can service them after the slightest scratch. It's part of life having a varied amount of interests buddy.
Excellent 👍
Cheers Happy M...
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures I've just bought an Air Arms ProSport and my partner has a HW97. Both are great guns but you can see how ideas of the "underlever" came from the past with this and the BSA airsporter. All these classics need to be preserved in working order and are a testament to a different time.
Great point there pal. I would love to get a BSA Stutzen but they are really expensive 30 years on.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures Just watched a video on the Stutzen. Great gun.
I used to look at one on the wall in Manchester air rifles thinking , should I buy it or not !
John knibbs will have the spares or chambers
That seems to be the best place on line at the moment
I used to have a Webley air riffle I remember showing it my sister and she loaded it and shot me in the foot lol
I know a few people who have ether shot themselves in the foot or the finger. What model was it ?
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures am not quite sure but I do have a picture of me holding it same loading at the top if I find it il send you the photo it's a good job I had trainers on or galoshers lol in those days
@@SMITHYSKONTIKI Galoshers !! That's what my granddad used to call em and I'd go no there me pumps granddad.
Hi, I am from India, I have a mark 3 webley air rifle which was given to me by my day 49 yrs ago... Cocking lever is missing and the butt is broken... Can I get a spare? I have friends in UK who can collect it.
Pls contact me at sameerapejathaya@gmail.com
Hello check out John Knibbs International Ltd Hillside, Shawbury Lane Shustoke Warwickshire GB
@@sameeranarapejathaya hi
Well done.
Cheers
Have you shot any critters with it yet?
Oh no, I couldn't possibly do that
Nice classic there Daz, good job on the restoration, looking real nice, can't beat the old British rifles for simple reliability, recently stripped and rebuilt my early model Air Arms - TX200 mk3 (.22 cal) which I have owned since new around 20 yrs ago, took me a while to get all the old grease out and replace a broken cocking shoe along with the piston seal though the strip and rebuild was easy enough compared to a more recent BSA lightning that was a 6 hour job though the BSA (Spanish Assembled) is a more recent rifle with all those awkward tamper proof parts the EU is forcing manufacturers to fit these days. The BSA is now performing smoother and quieter than new as she was in dire need of some grease and oil with grinding internals before I lubed her up. Two more on my list to acquire are the early model HW-77 and possibly a mk1 or mk2 TX200 preferably in .177 as I do prefer the springers in a non carbine format. Am surprised you didn't use Moly Grease for the spring, piston and cylinder, most spring rifle tinkerers swear by it.
The TX 200 is a knockout piece of kit and I remember when they first came out, was it that long ago !.
It sounds like you have a passion for the sport there too. I used a teflon based grease which I use on my bikes etc but I know the grease you are talking about. I would like to get my hands on Diana 52 Firebird. My dad had one in the 1990"s and we think it was running a bit 'Hot'. Super side lever and of course a Springer. I have seen a model 35 too at a good price local to me. Another man's rifle looking at the size of it.
Nice vid 👍
Thanks for watching.
Verry is a nice good for hunting
It is good for hunting
Spring size tell me
I am not sure but check out John Knibbs international for more information.
I have same air rifle but it's totally damage .. 😭
They are always worth fixing if you know someone who can do it.
Should've used RWS Superdomes... Good enough for plinking and not too expensive... You'll not get s group with them you had.... Nice bit of work though.
I think I'd have seen if I could have adapted or modified to a weihrauch piston and piston seal... Even if I had to turn the piston from scratch... wolf in sheep's clothing then...Thanks for sharing...
Cheers Ironman......I have used RWS before and they are a nice looking pellet.
There's always a fine line between restoration and modifying. It amazes me though how a leather piston performs so well. The old methods were
pretty good but it would be a great idea to get a little workshop lathe and turn some new pieces for the internals and retro fit custom parts. Thanks for watching and commenting pal.
A man from my own heart but I cant seem to find any airrifles to fettle.
I might have a nice air pistol coming up to look at soon. It's an Original Model 6 M dual opposed piston springer.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures I'll stay tuned.
Hi how do I date my webley mark 3 I have the serial number
If you kindly ask another TH-cam channel he will be able to give you the info as he has a book with all the serial numbers. The Channel is Field Sport Cymru I have a link in the description of this video kev.
It seems to be a carbon copy of the famous BSA L or the Improved D air rifles from the early 1900's.
Thanks for sharing 000, I never realised this.
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures
No sweat!
It took a Yank all the way from the other side of the pond to point it out for you :).... . Hey, hop over to shoot some real firearms someday!
Cheers buddy
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures You do the same pal!
Give a shout if you were here in the States next time, it will be our pleasure to show you around.
I had a Relum Tornado which was awful. same under lever and silly tap loader.
The old Relum or Muler as the guy who made it was better known
Blueing rail wont hold a scope needs spot welding again
Thanks for sharing
It can't be never accurate right after the installation of the washer and the spring. It takes some time to be accurate.
Thanks for sharing Dastan
My brother had a beautiful webley mk3 though he stupidly got rid of it 30 years ago for next to nothing ffs
That's the way things go sometimes. I look at old Yamaha motor bikes from the 80's and they now go for 3 times the original price !
No hood many were lost I had one in the 70ts £30 new,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Good the guna oke classik of well shooter Mr
It is a good gun
@@MrDazP1adv3ntures is yes
Stock should have had several coats of oil.
Thanks for sharing
Love the paper for overspray "Most hated woman"
Oh and great video it is awesome how fixable the older air rifles are!
They were made by good old British Engineers
Good afternoon.
I live in Kiev, Ukraine. A week ago, I got a Webley mk3, with number 33118. Please help me determine its date of birth.
THANK YOU in advance!
Hello my friend
Slave Ukriani.
This guy might be able to help you.
youtube.com/@fieldsportcymru4636?si=9JYl1MT_CVyzlgL7
I have one
They are a good old springer , Indian Air rifle....look after it.
Try cleaning the barrel
I have a long barrel cleaner somewhere in the shed Dustin. I am just not sure where it is but yes that's a good idea.