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Forensic Fluids guy needs his own TH-cam channel where he explains this stuff.
Could listen to him talk for hours.
He's so pleasant and courteous, too. I love "that's a great question."
Science and space always fascinated me, but I wasn’t smart enough to study either. lol!
broooo spoiler alert.
I agree, i like how she tried to school him on something she had no idea about. Drugs stay in your system a set amount of time, depending on how often you do them, how much you do of them on that day(s), person’s metabolism etc all play parts in how long it stays or how much of it is in there. But it will most definitely show + even if the #s may fluctuate. He tried explaining(in more medical terms) but she kept interrupting.
He is the Neil degrass Tyson of the toxicology arena. His voice is mesmerising :)
Random comment: I could listen to the gentleman from forensic fluids talk all day! He’s so well spoken and thorough. Love it.
Janet is something else. Let the man talk!
Ok off topic and out of left field but can I get a possibility statistic on …….Janet Hamilton and Lindsay Barkow seem to have some unspoken tension….. I’m sure we can sexercise that tension right out….hit me up
Same! I was just thinking he needs a channel. It was oddly relaxing lol
I agree.
😊 10:43 10:43 10:43 10:43 10:43 10:43 10:43 10:43 10:43 10:43 10:43ll
I’m dying that she wanted to fire her attorney and he’s out here asking a literal scientist VALID questions and holding conversations with him. She’s a moron..
Ikr😂 as if she could do better.
Since she's used since she was 11, she thinks she's an expert. it also bolsters her trust that she knows what she's doing when it comes to being a user.
Did she actually pay for the lawyer
@@lataundriahunt9325 I don't think she did but maybe she has a PD - Public defender
She is just an ignorant drug addiction. She is a very selfish person who thinks she is entitled.
At 59:35 she was waving a gun. I had to do a second take but she absolutely had a firearm. I’ve never seen anything like that. She’s unhinged.
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OMG, I went back and looked a couple of times and she absolutely is! Can't believe not a single person said anything, and she waved it around right after the cps investigator said she treated to blow her brains out so they stopped going there. Just wow!
Omg you’re right. A snub nose. She was waving it around and also seemed to point it at her own head. Wtf
59:35 she has a gun when screaming in silence before she got kicked off. Wtf
She needs to be locked up ASAP!
Too be honest, I don’t think she wants her kids! It seems to me like she’s doing everything in her power to get her rights terminated. More than likely the best outcome for the children. How that judge did not hold her contempt is beyond me! She got on my nerves within the first five minutes.
I agree. I don’t think the so called mom tea wants the kids.
Mr. Paige is by far my least favorite "judge" (I don't think he is actually a judge). He lets people act like animals, I'm beyond shocked that he actually muted her!
@@GodsChild1159correct, he's a Magistrate.
Agree she like to make kids but not take care of them… we should fix that …..it’s a sad sad story
Judges and referees often give people appearing pro se more leeway.
Dad- "I will do any and all things to get my kids back"
Except of course for stopping my illegal behavior and drug use
Yeah and if the judge gives him the kids and he gets a house he will probably move her in so back to square one for those poor kids.
My kid's bio dad was one of these righteous guys who say they'll do "anything" to get their kids back, but they don't get a job or a home, stop commiting crime, or get drug treatment. Blah blah blah your words mean nothing.
To be fair, it was stated that the father had a string of negative drug tests and only a couple relapses. I think the father shows promise. In the case of these children, it was stated that their issues would likely leave them stranded in foster care for a very long time and likely not in the same home. I think, since the dad was incarcerated when the children were removed, has completed some services, has had mostly negative drug tests, and has shown some potential for improvement in his parenting skills in just two short visits, that he should be given some extra time. ‘Mom’ should be terminated and have TPO placed on her to keep her away from them.
Yup I heard this for about 14 yrs of being married to an alcoholic/ addict. I had no idea he was on drugs. Unfortunately 4 yrs after our separation he continued his destructive ways and took his life.😔
I'm 2 minutes in and can tell mom is so disrespectful! She's smoking during court, has a pissy attitude, and is ungrateful. If she doesn't deserve her kids, then she doesn't deserve that beautiful husky in the back. 😢
I agree she doesn't want the children, I'm sure she wants any money that comes with them tho.
SPCA should be called on that baby in the backseat just like CPS gets called on her children
I immediately thought, "I hope that dog is ok". Lol. She's a methed out piece of work.
That Husky gonna escape!
The mom sucks at life. She shouldn’t even be able to have a goldfish.
It's clear by Mom's behavior in court and her behavior in the process, they need to terminate her rights! She acts like a spoiled toddler, and then add the constant drug use, she clearly has chosen drug use over her children. Although we absolutely need to give parents a chance to get their shit together, we need to stop dragging it out so long when it's clear parents have no intention of doing so. Give these kids a chance to have a successful life before too much damage occurs!
Amen to that!! You really hit the nail on the head! I wish the courts would listen to you!! ❤
Good luck to dad, mom's a lost cause. Dad if u see this.... I lost my kids for 5 years, got clean and fought to get them back. Life is so good right now. Follow a 12 step program, try your best, do the next right thing, live one day at a time (1 minute at a time if you have to!), and the promises ABSOLUTELY do come true!! Keep pushing; and once again, good luck!
My brother used, cooked and sold meth for nearly 20 years but got clean and got his kids back. He cross addicted in the healthiest way, he got addicted to NA, going to meetings and sponsoring other addicts. He stayed clean for over 20 years. Congratulations on your recovery ❤️🩹
Yesss keep up the great job congratulations you got this‼️
It took you *FIVE years* to get your life together for your babies??
How on earth do you get them back after ruining half of their life??
@@TradBarbie wow your level of compassion is soooo unimpressive.
You’ve clearly never watched anybody you truly love, if you are capable of that, try to fight an addiction.
It is a battle with the devil, and when you’re watching somebody you love fight it, it’s heartbreaking because you can see how desperately they want to win and how much it devastates them when they backslide.
I don’t care if it took him 10 years, his kids will always know that he fought the devil to get back in their lives, to them that will make him a hero.
Addiction is hereditary, hopefully he will be able to recognize those signs and stop it before it starts but, God forbid they ever face it, he will be able to show them a success story and help them fight it.
Don’t be so quick to judge “Barbie” 🙄, I have a feeling you’re not quite all you think you are.
@@annelynch9217 I love how you were *immediately* soooooo wrong. I have taken opiates for decades. Didn't read the rest, you're low.
She’s an active meth user and she expects to get her kids back? I bet she just wants them for the child support. So sad for her kids. They’re going to grow up knowing their parents valued drugs more than them
That is so sad. It's to bad there isn't a family member to take the kids. My sisters is raising her granddaughter because her daughter unfortunately started taking drugs when her daughter was 5.
She'll never get child support as one can't get blood from a turnip however she wants the food stamps, section 8 or other subsidized housing and quite possibly welfare if children were in her custody but She'll never get custody
She won’t get that sweet earned income credit check from the IRS and without that how will she afford her next tattoos?
Or eants the kids to get the state food stamps and cash benefits
Forensics guy needs a raise! He nailed every single question!!!
I work CPS for 10 years. I had several families in this situation. The court would allow parents to do nothing for 20 months and then continue the case due to the parents going to a couple parenting classes. Kids just lived in limbo and had their hearts torn out every time the parents didn't show for visitation. It was torture for the little ones.
what state did u work cps,?
@@moderator7169 I've been out of CPS for about 20 years.
I am in a similar situation with my grandbaby. The case has gone on way too long!
@@gregjames9875 i asked what STATE
It's heartbreaking from the foster's side, too. Sometimes I was shocked that they sent the kids back.
"Ya know, you can just mute me because I- ... ..... .. .... ....." 😊😊😊
I also enjoyed that.
My goodness, if she yells and curses at her kids like that, I feel sorry for that poor dog in the car!😢
Me too. I wish somehow the poor dog gets away!!!
I just know she smacks that dog and thinks it's okay because "dogs are tough, everyone does it, it's training"
We all know she does yell and threaten her kids like that.
If she can behave like this just in a court zoom. You know she's a whole lot worse In life to her kids.
She doesn't want to loose her kids.
Only because it means she looses a big chuck of money every month.
And she won't be able to keep getting high everyday like she has been. Unless she starts going and selling herself .... If she isn't already.
The egg donor shouldn't even be allowed to be around that dog that is in her backseat 😡
So sick of this judge allowing her incredible disrespect on zoom. Bring on Judge Bryant, she'd have her butt for this!
Ever see Judge Kim? She would have been in jail.
I think in family court, especially, “giving them enough rope to h*ng themselves” is the best way to go with a pro se/low income/drug-addicted defendant.
They have to do every single thing they can to reunify, and throwing a mom (on zoom) in jail for contempt is likely to conflict with any ongoing criminal matters.
I fully agree she would’ve deserved it, but I’d bet money she has an ongoing criminal case and THIS court’s priority is the children, making sure they make a record of all of this so there are no questions about her ability to parent.
Whether or not they’re doing that efficiently is totally up to personal opinion. The only real victim here is the children.
He is infuriating to watch. He let's ppl do whatever they want!
Judge Alex Manning in Atlanta would have this disrespectful b***h for lunch! She is one of the best no nonsense but yet entertaining judge I have ever watched.
He doesn't care because its helping the termination case
Some of you said you saw a gun at 59:35. I looked-and definitely saw it. It wasn’t long after that when the judge asked to go of the record momentarily and the dad got up-maybe the judge was dealing with the gun issue then. Dear God. Prayers. 😢
Yep it was a revolver
Yep… she is totally unhinged
The tweaker cross-examining the scientist is comedy gold😂!
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Dad said he didnt care that Janet told him she had cancer, but as soon as she had needle marks, he was the only one that could understand her and he rushed right over to her and smoked drugs with her.. I think those kids have no chance in life unless they are far away from their sperm and egg donors.
She couldn’t even sit still, stay inside and skip a cigarette while in the midst of a custody trial . WOW. She obviously didn’t want her children.
I’m sure she believes she’s done nothing wrong and she deserves her children. That they are HER children and she can do whatever she wants around them or to them.
Total meth-head
Ikr smh 😕 judge Bryant would have ripped her a new one that's so disrespectful
@@kimberlyoliver7308ikr!! I wish she was the judge on this case 😂
Look at that poor dog in the car panting.
Can we go ahead and get the dog outta there too?? 🙄
Out of this entire $hit show I loved listening to Mr. Reed from Forensic Fluids. Super intelligent! I mean he is Harvard educated. I always love hearing about the science behind how things work. The defendant came in with attitude trying to school him and he schooled her with grace while being very respectful.
I found it really interesting as well!
I usually love listening to Expert Witnesses. They are direct, and explain things so well. :)
When you work in a lab the extensive documentation of every sample in each and every different dept, coc is EVERYTHING! I worked in an environmental lab…in-depth quality control‼️
@@HostileUterusNOT always. When an expert witness is bad, they can be AWFUL.
Indeed a huge $hit show... poor children, mom is a huge piece of trash, dad ? same , grandma/ grandpa , same... move those children away from this huge pile of human trash
I’m just getting started, but so far, Ms Hamilton is coming across as very professional and respectful - I’m sure she’s going to be a big help to her unwanted lawyer. In all seriousness, I really feel for public defenders who often have their jobs made so much more difficult than they already need to be.
I feel bad for the taxpayers
@@synthWizkidme too
@@synthWizkidexactly
After watching a couple of these I now know why my public defender told the judge at my permanency hearing that I was one of his easiest clients (It was a formality, we already had custody of our kids.) Wearing a suit and being respectful went a long way with the court. I credit it to us not have to deal with having to take a psych evaluation.
I hope you were being cynical there
I thought Mr Lanes attorney was a random grandpa tuning in to watch court from his recliner.
So did i
That poor dog.. This mother is vile and I hope her kids get the chance at life with their new guardians. May Janet have exactly the life she deserves..
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Yes…living in a van down by the river…I mean under a tree in the woods!
Unfortunately, it's the life she chose. 😢
@@InsomniOwl_and she chose that over her kids, it’s absolutely SICK
I know poor husky panted the entire time. She waved a gun nobody even noticed at 59:38 when she was screaming at that lady while muted you see her hand come up w a lil handgun in it. She’s so unstable typical meth user, she shouldn’t even have dogs!
People who act like this shouldn't even be walking around freely, let alone taking care of children. It terrifies to know that she's not the only unstable Mother in the world. Kids should always be and feel safe and loved. If she can't even control herself in this courtroom, where it matters the most, then think of how she controls herself when she's alone with her kids, and behind closed door?
@@kourtneymelton1282 sadly, a lot of termination cases are the same… mom is screaming yelling cursing! Not…a plead of please don’t take my babies, but more of screaming at the case workers and those involved
The way she’s behaving she wants everything done her way 💯you can’t get that from children they don’t always do things the way you want them to.
I really hope after brandishing that firearm, the local law enforcement is sent to find her and pick her up!
Have we found out what the outcome was? In my opinion the mothers rights should be terminated but not the fathers. He seems to be trying for his kids whereas "mom" is solely focused on herself. If that's how she acts in a court of law, I can't even Imagine how horrible she must be behind closed doors!
I need to know too
I bet she's one of those mother's who are always hollering at her kids and threatening them when they're out in public.
The ones you know that aren't joking when they're threatening to beat the kids ass on backwards if they don't start doing as they're told when their out.
OMG YES!!! I know exactly the type of mother you're talking about! I always expect to see them at either the park or a Mcdonald'S play place! @@therealcoltstonewolfe
She is just a nasty woman
What do you think???!!!! !!!!!!!!
They just want the benefits and the housing that the children would bring.It’s horrible.
She definitely needs a lot of help, but she’s way too volatile and violent to take advantage of any resource.
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Harvard and Tufts? Daaaaamn! Tufts is the hardest school to get into in the county, Harvard is close behind it. Mr. Reed is brilliant and his voice is so soothing.
Miss Hamilton has a very disrespectful attitude. She isn't helping herself by proving she has no self control and anger issues.
It's heartening to see how much she appreciates the ten or so people trying to help her.🤨
Exactly. These hearings show how much is done for people and how many people are involved. I hope that at least some appreciate them…it must get discouraging.
Barkow's argument at the end was good. I do hope dad gets on his feet because he does care and needs the opportunity. This is heart breaking. Foster care is it's own challenge and can disrupt children. Dad needs to get housing together immediately!
She's angry this is happening? She created all this! Sorry, Janet. Nobody's fault but your own🤷
Love and admire Mr. Reed…..man knows his job and is well spoken….and love the fact he’s respectful to everyone no matter if they try and trick him or show him he doesn’t know as much as he thinks he does…….this man knows his job from all directions. He’d be very interesting to talk with….and the fact he has “one of those voices” you can listen to forever doesn’t hurt at all. Man knows his stuff. Bring him back!
Why do you people call ANY black person who is just doing their job like anyone else "well-spoken?"
Do you tell white working professionals who speak and do their damn job that they're "well-spoken?"
It's very condescending
It's amazing how many services are available and tried to assist her
I'm from this area and am a firmer foster parent of kids who were able to go home with parents thanks to several of the programs that were offered to mom. Those are really great programs with high success rates for parents who cooperate.
I was just going to say I cannot believe how many people have tried to help her and how she just abused the resources that are out there
I’m amazed that she actually completed all those drug screens. She gave them all the evidence they needed.
so bizarre to me but seems like something many ppl do bc they somehow believe that being compliant will soften the obvious blow/make it look less bad on their part as a person/parent...which is clearly not the case
@@britt.any_timehonestly missing the drug screens has the same effect when it comes to things like family court. Of course, legal court it's even worse because they'll just revoke your probation/parole etc. if you miss. But, if you watch any cases where people have been dodging the tests it never helps. Eventually you run out of excuses for missing it, and at the point you're just blatantly committing perjury. If you miss them (especially as many tests as had been ordered for her) it pretty much just screams to the court "I'm positive for drugs AND I'm a liar and a sneak". If you're still doing drugs in this situation it's a lose-lose no matter what you do. The only options are quit or face the music.
The agency bent over backwards to help these kids to reunite with family. It's sad that it didn't work but the children will be better off.
It really pisses me off when I see cases where an addict was actually given significant help and resources to turn their lives around and then refuses to take advantage of them. I live in a very rural area where most people don't believe addiction is a sickness and fully believe in the whole "just say no" and "just stop doing drugs" way of thinking. We have VERY few resources for somebody wanting and asking for help. The only thing we have is AA and NA, and 1 group run by a mental health facility and if you go, you're pretty much shunned from the community. I could only dream of receiving just half the resources and help this lady had received when I got clean. Any counseling I did, I had to pay out of pocket. The 1 group therapy we have is full of court ordered people who don't give a shit and were showing up intoxicated and again, I had to pay for it, because I sought treatment on my own and wasn't on any type of court orders. If somebody doesn't want the help, then take it away and give it to somebody who actually does.
It should be accessible to everyone
It's nearly impossible to get help sometimes. But those who are done and want to stay clean will do it. They have to understand that their brain is wired to even lie to itself in order to bring you back to the drugs. You have to stop yourself and use all the tools you can. There is help out there. It's hard if it's to the point of court and homelessness. By then there is so much grief. Sometimes jail and prison and termination is necessary. It's so sad. My daughter is in prison right now. I have custody of her daughter
Congratulations on getting clean ❤ and don't give up , you are worth it ..and coming from someone who had a dhs case for being raped which i explain on my channel .
I sat and watched so many parents not show for their kids or if they did it was very sad because the kids would being crying for their parents and the parents walk out and asked each other if they were ready to get high ....
It makes me sick how so many kids get treated ... And she is definitely not stable to have children
@@strykerdawn1Too often, communities will also shun an addict's family. You're judged for everything you did & anything you didn't do. "Why didn't you stop this? How could you have allowed this to go on? You should have MADE them go to rehab. What about a 2nd mortgage to afford the best rehab?" and the classic, "Stop enabling them! You have to show them tough love!" Every past decision is already being questioned by our own cruel thoughts, tho. If only we had known then what we know now.
By no means am I trying to minimize the difficulty of trying to get clean, but you also deserve credit for your steadfast love & support. While you're taking care of everyone else, please know that you're not alone. You ARE appreciated.
I see she was arrested 8/14/23 for fleeing, resisting, and had DWI charge and now has bench warrant for no showing to court. She also had felony strangulation charged at 17 yrs old. What a difference in her 2 mugshots 😱. Google Janet Mae Fawn Hamilton. At least the dogs got away from her after her arrest. I hope they were and are ok.
Just earlier, while watching another case, someone in the chat very smugly and pedantically said, " all drugs should be legal, It is my body , and what i put in my body does not affect YOU!"
this video proves my point, that the drugs someone puts in "their body" does actually affect EVERYONE AROUND THEM!
parents, children, and in this case, the TAXPAYERS!!
Here, here
Meh, not everyone is a parent. I’ll help you off the high horse when you’re ready.
Well said. Mom needs serious jail time. Throwing money at this problem makes it worse.
"Meh" lol hey everyone, pay for deaf's BS's fallout or you're a "high horse" 🤣 what a loser mentality
She makes a great case to reinstate Roe v. Wade!
I remember being a kid and feeling a sense of abandonment and extreme sadness, anxiety with nightmares just from my parents going on vacation for a one week. This is so heartbreaking, I hurt for any child going thru this. If you want to party and do drugs, crime don't have children!!!
Her childish tantrums om mute were pathetic.
But weirdly funny.
That poor dog is stuck in the back seat of an addicts car and is forced to breathe in the drug-filled fumes emanating from "mom's" gross mouth. It's animal abuse. She shouldn't be allowed to take care of anything living 😒
Those kids don’t have a chance. I had a grandmother like her and my mother followed suit. I was heading that way, but I’m sober since 6/10/21. I’m trying to break that horrible lineage. I’ve had two relapses since first time sober in 1994. Janet I hope you and baby daddy get your 💩together for your children’s sake. ❤
Getting together won't help those kids. It looks to me like the parents are co-dependent so the best result would be for the parents not to be together while they sort their selves out. Janet at least, needs t therapy to help her address her life issues before she can take a child parent course (it seems to me she hasn't had a stable family life herself so needs massive help with this) . Given time and help I'm sure she could parent her children
Unfortunately courts deal with facts and evidence, if clients aren't able to commit for whatever reason the courts should take this into account. No one wants to take children away from their parents because the option is horrendous. If countries spent as much on correcting parental damage as they did on attacking other countries then the world would be a much happier place
You decided totake the steps to do better, to BE better, and to GET better. For that - thank you. My almost ex son-in-law is destroying my grandson day by day and the court in Cincinnati is letting him do it - demonizing my daughter (also abused by him) and eating up the piles of BS he keeps feeding them. Some people can't get a grip on their lives - some feel the need to control/destroy others - and some do right, walk the line and raise good kids
@@kamelionify she was stating she hopes both mother and father get their lives together, that's what getting their💩 together means... that little brown face is to represent s#!t... she wasn't saying they need to be together but rather they get their acts together for themselves and the children.
Keep trying. You can do it.
She'd rather be homeless with her dogs, using, than be a good mom to her kids. She's clearly using with her child like behavior.
Ms Hamilton believes she’s smarter than anyone in the room!
NOT EVEN CLOSE!
Don't do meth kids. You'll live in a van down by the river
OMGoodness. Mom has serious emotional disregulation issues. How could she possibly redirect and properly parent a child when she behaves like a toddler herself? She needs intensive mental health treatment to find another way to deal with her emotions, otherwise she'll continue self-medicating as an escape and coping mechanism. This combination of mental health and addiction issues requires a holistic approach which is unlikely to resolve through outpatient services alone.
Does that mean, more succinctly, she's batshit crazy?
I’m really irritated by the GAL not giving a recommendation. This is the termination of parent’s right and she doesn’t give the judge a clear recommendation. In my state, a GAL is required to give a recommendation in a termination case. What are you even doing if you don’t?
I get what she is saying. If there isn't any adoptive home available for the kids with big behaviors, why terminate rights of a parent who is still making strides toward improvement?
@@andreakubiak4778 then she should recommend against the termination of rights. They can come back to table if mom stops progressing
@@andreakubiak4778because parents like these will only make their already problematic issues much worse!
You can argue about the drug testing all you want but you can’t beat scientific facts! She’s positive, move on! Like she said, “It don’t make no sense.”
So... It doesn't not make sense? It DOES make sense. Got it.
Our lawyer has to. It's just part of her defense. She is entitled to the best defense that she can get just like anybody else and that's what they're doing. I don't ever fault the lawyer for arguing for their client no matter how bad their client seems to be. In fact I actually give them more credit than if I saw a lawyer up there doing nothing. If they're fighting something as impossible as it may seem that means they're not doing their job and they're not a good lawyer.
@@sierraalexandra7630 so you’re trying to prove what? Don’t be a jerk.
Well to be fair it probably doesn't make sense to her. If I have learned ANYTHING in the past few years it is that many people just do not understand science
@@lostineggsaisle actually if it's a family court or divorce court then the individual is not entitled to the best defense they can get. They're courts of equity, not criminal courts. It's one of the huge problem with those courts.
The attorney for the "dad" was mumbling so bad, that I was worried about him possibly expiring on live Zoom.
The "mother's" complete lack of cooperation, welfare fact that she clearly prefers to chase her next high over the welfare of her children speaks for itself.
Wow, just wow!
Jeez what is with that is he drunk or just ... I don't wanna be mean to him 🤣
I think he is just very old. I just hope he realises what a useless man he is trying to help. His client is a drug addict and cannot stop breaking the law. The kids are clearly affected by having drug addict parents, most likely were born with drugs in their system.
So sad, the kids will pay the price for bad parenting, just let them be adopted by people who will put them first and give them a shot at life ❤️❤️
Removal from parents is also traumatic and causes long term effects. The kids will suffer either way.
The fact that the system purposely drags these cases out to maximize the amount of state and federal funding they receive for each kid in their custody is the real issue here.
@@traceymcdonald7949 BS. The number 1 concern is the children
@@traceymcdonald7949Do you think terminating parental rights should be a quick and easy process for the government? 😬
@@traceymcdonald7949 amen to that.
Wow, what a trashy person to have children! She can’t even let the witness answer before she’s jumping all over the place. She’s using drugs but wants her kids back to further expose them to her addiction. smdh
Hmm I’m hooked on meth…I have major anger issues…I’m homeless, living in the woods..ya know what?…Let’s start a family!
Plus the fact she had a gun during court!
Right?
It's more like someone who is that irresponsible isn't responsible enough to use protection and druggies always use kids for money and services.
Some ppl need their tubes tied!
RIGHT!???😳
It’s so funny watching the mother trying to run her mouth while she’s muted 🤣
That's always so satisfying 😂
Her mouth never stopped moving while she was muted.
She also pointed a gun at her head.
She seemed like she was talking to someone else.....
Is dad’s attorney live from a room in a nursing home? White walls with nothing on them, a recliner appearing chair……..
Dad reminds me of my baby bro. Loves his kids, but is an idiot who either loves drugs more or simply doesn't know how to live as an adult.
Without someone to stand beside this man everyday, telling him what to do, he won't get his stuff together. It's sad, but I think the kids are better off in foster care, and that's a terrible place to be.
Yeah, the way he explains why he skipped a drug screen tells us how weak he is. He just had to hang out with her and couldn't turn down one hit. You are being screened for drugs sir. You can lose your children and your freedom. Be a man.
Would be great if they could be adopted by a loving childless couple
"Be a man" lol that's what he did, typical man blaming a woman for his actions 🤣🤣
@@MR-gl9xuYa right. They're too busy shopping for babies to adopt in foreign countries and importing them far away from their culture instead of helping and adopting needy kids right here in America.
Every positive that he read off should equate to her saying she doesn't care about her child at all. I have the understanding that no person wants to be an addict, but at some point she had the choice to fight for her child/ children. Forensic Fluids is brilliant!!!
Mom has an *uncanny* resemblance to one of my ex-girlfriends. She turned out to be involved in all sorts of serious issues. Offered to help her change if she wanted to, but she wanted to stay how she was. Makes me glad I left and blocked her. Avoided this probably happening in the future.
I love how passionate the expert from Forensic Fluids is. "That's a great question!"
I feel really bad for the court reporter trying to get an accurate record with her talking over everyone! 😳
Why is this woman not in jail for possession, terroristic threats for threatening to shoot and kill the investigator? If she was out on bail or probation she’d have to go right back in for breaking conditions of the release. So, how is she out? She is tweaking hard during this hearing. Was that a gun she had?
Yes, that was definitely a gun!!! Maybe she took herself out. 🤷🏼♀️
It was a gun
I feel so, so sorry for the dog, too. I hope he/she will be safe.
Wow. She finally gets one (hardly) redeeming remark stating that she showed improved behavior at a meeting and interrupts to say "basically I was high" just completely destroying the one shining light anyone had given her this whole case. The lawyer she wants fired had to trudge through a pile of shit to find that one barely positive comment and she just ruins it immediately.
59:24 is Janet holding a weapon to her head?! OMG!!!! I rewatched and paused and it really looks like a gun 😮 that does not speak towards your parenting skills to do this but during a court hearing! I am guessing that is why the judge went off the record right there
Yeah but I don’t think it’s her holding the g-n. I slowed it down and zoomed in to her little window. Idk 🤷🏻♀️
She is definitely waiving a gun. I stopped the video and even blew it up. What a wacko, she should not even be allowed near the dog.
When my first born was 4 weeks his dad shook him while i was at my mums house. They obviously took him into foster care while the procedural things happened [in the uk it goes to finding of fact in family court, then the criminal side can take place if necessary] while my son was in foster care i got 3 hours a day 5 days a week contact supervised. Wanna know how many i missed? Not one. I walked for an hour each way to see him and id do it again in a heartbeat. (I got him back hes now 11 and an amazing young man, his "dad" pled guilty on the first day of trial and got a poxy 18 months for almost killing our son and assalting me when he got out on bail after he did that. If hed been found guilty he'd have gotten up to 9 years.)
I'm so sorry your son had to go through that, and that by default, you did as well. I hope he's ok and not suffering long term effects of his injuries
@OnTropolis we are so thankful (me and my mum) that although he had 4 subdural brain haemorrhages and the bleeding behind his eyes he is absolutely healthy medically and will also be starting therapy soon for his adverse childhood trauma and to process it healthily ❤️
Ah man this hurts my heart.
I'm in the UK too and our sentences, if you can even call them that make me sick!
Hope your bubby is ok now 🙏🏽
@@amyelizabeth135 Ouch! Poor lad. I'm glad that he got medical attention in time to let him grow up relatively normal. And that the finders of fact realised you weren't at fault for what happened.
That hurt my heart reading your comment, I am happy you got your son back and the assault he encountered did not permanently disable him And I want to commend you for not giving up, your love for your child shines brighter than the sun, I wish there were more mothers out there like you ma'am. ❤❤
This woman reminds me of young ladies I used to counsel in the recovery community. They, when it came down to it, were not at all interested in parenting their children, even though they insisted that they did. They did everything they could to keep from having to settle down and raise their children. They had excuse after excuse for not paying their child support, but kept themselves supplied with cigarettes, Coach bags, twice-monthly acrylic nail appointments, and new clothes, because they, in their words, had learned to love themselves. It was clear to me and everyone who had been around the block, that they did not want to have to take care of children. They made sure they were deemed unfit, on purpose.
I felt sorry for the dog.
Mom was high as a bird's butt during this hearing! She needs some serious help. I hope she gets it or her life will always be in this mess!
She has had all the help offered again and again… she has to want it too… it can’t be forced.
Problem is that she doesn’t love her children more than her drug lifestyle 😢😢😢🙏
The resources that are WASTED trying to chase people like this down is astounding! Offer the resources, give them 6 months to respond and then terminate their parental rights. These children need stability! They need to bond with a loving adult that puts their needs first. As a former foster parent, ive seen this play out too many times. The names are different but the story is the same and these children grow up to repeat the cycle if they dont get stability early on. Theres the odd few that defy the odds but not too many. I was one of those foster parents that really cared and was willing to adopt but what i saw was countless children sent back to parents that did the bare minimum and i never saw them again. Most cases, the kids would inevitably be taken AGAIN and sent to, yet another, foster home. I couldnt take it😢
The problem is that there are not enough homes out there for them. So there is a very strong chance they will end up in an orphanage and grow up in an institution or in a house where they are just a commodity. Either is almost worse than where they are.
A big risk to children of parents like this is that, even if the parents tried to do their best, the fact they use drugs and can’t maintain stable housing, means they are likely associating with a variety of OTHER people who are a risk to their children. This greatly increases the likelihood of the children being assaulted or sexually abused.
Please become a foster parent if you are able. There are so many children in terrible situations and GOOD foster homes are desperately needed. With patience, structure, security, and trust, these children can be saved from a rocky future. 💙
I’m a foster mother in Texas. I breaks my heart to hear the kids struggling! I take in newborns born exposed to drugs. I currently have a little boy who will be a year old on July 18. Parental rights are going to be terminated. I love fostering but it’s tough to let them leave!
@@kadenhiggins9338yep! I made it a point to NOT follow up with their lives after they left. Too too hard. Bless you for your work. ❤
Who wants to deal with a crack baby that isn't even theirs?
@synthWizkid I do. The baby didn't choose to be born nor addicted. There is potential for every child to be a good person.
@@synthWizkid Anyone with a heart
This chick wants to challenge the scientist. I really laughed out loud! 😂
& she said "it don't make no sense" 😂😂😂
I needed this train wreck today
Agreed.
SAME. 😂
Right, about to deep clean my kitchen and husband took the kids out
What an absolute nightmare? Ms Hamilton doesn’t need to be anywhere near these kids.
She doesn't need to be near any children anywhere no matter who they belong to
Everyone will blame the kids for their own behavior especially when they become teens and adults.
The GAL's statement at the end says it all about the tragedy of cases like these. All the damage caused by the parents' drug addiction, criminal behavior, and abusive chaotic parenting styles will continue to work against their children, because they've treated them in such a way that the kids now aren't good candidates for adoption. So, since they're unlikely to be adopted, maybe we should just give them back to the totally messed up people and circumstances that helped to make them this way in the first place? Are they better off bounced around in foster care, maybe getting services to help them and perhaps landing a caring placement, or maybe ending up in an awful placement? Or do we give them back to a dad who, despite his best intentions, has shown he makes terrible choices and will likely allow their mentally ill abusive mother to see them? I wouldn't want to be the one making this decision. These poor kids were dealt a sh!tty hand and will continue paying the price for circumstances they had no say in creating.
Well said.. horrible. And bouncing around or ending up bouncing around different treatment/ mental health facilities is even worse. I was one of these kids who grew up in dhs custody from age 11-18 and was in well over 50 placements. Foster homes, group homes, mental hospitals, crisis units. It causes lifelong damage. Alot of the kids i grew up ended up homeless, on the streets, mentally ill, on drugs, in jail & were never able to truly recover from the trauma im 31 I still struggle with close personal relationships & abandonment issues. Luckily im doing ok though compared to alot of the kids i grew up with. Wouldnt say that 10 years ago was in and out of jail, in abusive dv relationships, very suicidal etc.. my son saves me he is 8 & he is my world and my only family. When you age out it hits hard having no family.
My mom was a chronic alcoholic she never even participated in her case plan, never showed up to court or visits she was riddled with anxiety and could never get sober or even try but its no excuse. She also had a horrible childhood. She never did stop drinking shes 52 now dying from stage 4 liver cancer shes in horrible shape because of her drinking. I saw her a handful of times after I turned 18 but it was never a mother daughter relationship
@@JenessaAndKingston So sorry but rejoice in you overcoming the upbringing you endured.
I'm going through this with my 'nephew' right now. My elderly cousin (60's) somehow adopted a baby while she was in full-swing liver failure. My sister lived with her and wound up raising the baby. Well, cousin refuses to take her meds, gets acidosis, gets very nasty, screaming, throwing things, and then dies abruptly right before the kid's 5th birthday. Nothing in place to make sure the house and his inheritance is secure. Some bad players in the family take the house and kick out my sister and the kiddo. She moves across the country with him without telling anyone, never got him any sort of counseling, bad-mouths my cousin all the time which I understand but that's the only mommy he ever knew! You don't rant in front of the kid about how sick and mean and unreasonable she got before the end. Apparently in May, he had an absolute meltdown, very aggressive, kicking, throwing things, threatening people... he's 7. So what does my sister do in response? Surrendered him to the freaking state and said he had NO family! I'm trying to see now if I can get custody of him, but I live across the country and the social services in their state are fucking abysmal. She, on the other hand, has been living it up on the beach, at parks, concerts, eating out, etc... like he never existed in the first place. She won't even say his NAME anymore. I can't imagine what sort of trauma this kid's already dealt with. It infuriates me how people can mess their kids up and not even GAF. Biological or not, you had guardianship, you raised him until 7... how could you just forget about him like an old sweater? 😞
@@Datura981I'm so heartbroken for that little kid. He didn't ask for any of this.
Please speak to a lawyer. He needs an advocate.
She literally held a gun to her own head during a court meeting. Please, Dear God keep those kids away from her forever!!! Who knows the trauma she’s already put them through. This is the craziest case yet! Did y’all see that at 59:30???? 🤯🤯
I just made that comment, she is definitely waiving a gun. Holy crap.
She looks SCARY AS FUCK in that clip. Fucking deranged lunatic. These are the cases that make me grateful something like CPS exists.
That was crazy! I wonder if anyone there noticed it.
I seen it to and then the judge went off record and she is now gone so hopefully they sent a cop to her!
Holy crap! I didn't catch that the first time around! Crazy!!!
Mr. Reed is impressive. He has the patience of Job in addition to his extensive education and experience.
Not sure why this "mom" even showed up for court. she would have made a better impressiom on the court if she were absent
The father's lawyer needs to sit up so he can be heard clearly.
Approx. 1:03. Janet lives in her car in the woods. Homeless. Thank God she doesn't have her children! Also..how does she find money for drugs? I'll let my imagination wander!
How is this women still alive? If her body is alive her brain is badly damaged. Tragic for her and her beautiful children.
I could fall asleep listening to Mr. Reed reading test results lol. Well done, sir.
There isn't a margin of error on a drug test!! It is what it is, there isn't another molecular structure like it! 😂
That's not true with prescription opiates as morphine and dilaudid for example breakdown they'll show up as other substances because of metabolites, i know this first hand as I was accused of taking RX 's other than what I was prescribed, turns out to be able to read the results accurately it takes a very sophisticated technician, most lab techs aren't capable, I was mislabeled briefly until a very competent physician (mine) dug deep and saw what had happened
Ive been the firat person to admit when i need help with both my kids. I have sought that help through their pediatrician and moved to pediatric psych.
The fact that parents cannot realize that maybe you need help... its insane to me!
Ive reached out to do whats right by my kids! So we are on a path to wellness!
This crazy disrespectful woman really just tried to school a HARVARD EDUCATED SCIENTIST! 😂 The nerve of it all 😅
Why do judges let defendants move all around, go in and out off of camera, talking continuously even if on mute. It’s disrespectful and indicative of a mother who can’t handle her own emotions. I feel so bad for her children!
His lawyer should retire he’s competent but there’s a time to retire and enjoy life god bless you David
I keep playing that back and it looked to me like she had a gun on her in her car
Mr Reed was an excellent witness..and the only one who didn't say "umm" repeatedly. He very effectively and professionally shut dow Ms Hamilton's implications of faulty testing. There's no doubt that mom isn't willing to do what she needs to do in order to reunite with the children. While Mr Lane expresses his desire to comply with any all services he poses too much of a risk to the stability of the children. The fact is that he will consistently be at risk of being picked up on a warrant especially with continuing to drive on a suspended license. If he ends up back in jail even if it's only for a night then there's no one to care for the children. This is a sad and tragic situation for these little people. The only thing their parents have accomplished is going over & above in completely screwing up their little heads, hearts and lives.
Who does she keep talking to out her window listening to this ? Why doesn't the Judge stop her, she is even laughing, and began smoking in the car.
Mom is showing everyone watching how she deals with and processes things. She looks like a child pouting and throwing a tantr because they didn't get their way. If this is how she acts when in court with adults speaking in a calm professional manner can you imagine how she would react to children having temper tantrums and meltdowns? It would become a competition on who can throw the bigger fit
Bio Mom is a child - a selfish, lazy, professional victim who obviously only cares about herself.
I wonder if the Dad's lawyer is his relative, grandfather maybe, who came out of retirement to help a family member?
I could only catch about every third or fourth word he was saying.
Mr Jaunice is a regular attorney in this court. How he's not retired yet is beyond me
@@OnTropolis Oh I've never seen him before. Is he always laying back in his Lazy Boy? 😂
Yes. Always. It's really annoying 😂
Dad’s attorney speaks like my 93 year old father and he has had a series of strokes.
He wants to provide for his children, by being given a two bedroom apt, and not be required to pay rent for 18 months! It seems that any money they get, they spend on drugs!
Jeez, she had a bloody gun, with her finger on the trigger! 59.35/6
Are we just going to ignore that she held a gun to her head? Epic Fail on all these folks. 😮
Paige stopped the hearing and went off the record right after that, so I believe he did see it and may have contacted law enforcement to deal with it.
@@-HeyLyd- 👍 Thx!
That Mr. Paige is unable to make serous decisions. Obviously the dad is not capable of raising these kids, so what was the hesitation??? They still allow the dad to see the kids even though he tested positive for drugs????? If you ant to just to where she is pointing the gun and yes she does, its at 59:49 seconds. WOW!! Tat poor dog in the back. They should also remove this poor gorgeous dog. Living in a pick up truck for animal is definitely not ok.
@@mssophia6811 the decision may be obvious to us on the outside, but he hast to consider the appeals process. Here in Michigan, they must make sure that they are giving the parent every legal chance they can have to get their kids back otherwise they risk having a decision overturned. The judge very well might give dad a few more months to hang himself and prove that he can’t do it ensuring the validity of the final decision to terminate right. There’s no way dad’s going to turn this around in another three or four months.
I saw it too!!!!
Mr Janese needs to retire. If he cant clearly ask a question and needs to sit in a recliner its time to retire.
I turned 40 this year, and as a once young lady, I looked for "looks" more then "Brains" in the opposite sex. As with a fine wine, as the wine AGES, it seems to get better, with age... And as another commenter pointed out I could listen to Mr. Reed (Gentleman testifying from Forensic Fluids) speak all day long. Funny how things you thought were an ABSOLUTE change as you age ...And suddenly "looks" aren't as important, and you start to take notice of things that you previously thought were of no importance such as personality, humor and how one so elegantly speaks professionally is what I notice these days!!!