Antinomy should've defeated Yusei in their first duel. It would've set up Antinomy as a capable duelist and gives him a win and it gives Yusei more motivation to surpass his limits.
@@CyberKingSAL yeah I get what you're coming from but it's one of those kind of things as you say has barely lost his entire series so we just make him lose out right because you know plot then it kind of doesn't have a good taste in people's mouths most people would get upset and stopped watching it and then you have a lot of people who was still watching you feel like you care to gross it would divide people
"Joey should've beaten Zigfried because then we'd see a duel with him and Kaiba"! ...What? Kaiba wasn't entered in the tournament, he only interfered to disqualify Zigfried for all the problems he caused during the tournament. He didn't know Leon was related to Zigfried so as far as he's concerned once Joey wins the duel that's that and he doesn't need to step in. Even if Kaiba knew what a basic background check was how does knowing Leon and Zigfried are brothers lead into Joey Vs. Kaiba instead of Leon Vs. Kaiba?
Lol what if kaiba either a) said that Joey wasn’t worthy of entering the finals and entered himself to disqualify him personally, or b) said that Joey had improved sufficiently and that kaiba wanted to show that he was still the superior duelist
It would have been Leon vs Zigfriend before Leon faced Atem. However, Kaiba disqualified Zigfried which lead to that duel. Kaiba wasnt even taking part in the tournament itself. So if Joey won (which he should have) would have just resulted in Joey vs Leon. Which wouldnt have lead to a rematch between Joey vs Kaiba.
@@sungod9797 Thats pretty unlikely since by the time season 5 comes around. Kaiba isn't really concerned with the gang as much as he was during battle city since he had to interact with them 24/7. Kaiba's main concern was fixing his companies' reputation. Even in the beginning of the arc Kaiba messes with Joey and is like "Mokuba make sure Wheeler's late" I personally think that by season 5 Kaiba sees them a little more as friends. Plus at the end of the season Kaiba hooks them up with a first class jet back home
I have to disagree about Yusei vs Jack round 1, because that duel was the first important character development for Jack. Up to that point Jack's head was the size of Mt.Everest where he believed himself invincible and constantly bragged about everyone being worse, getting that first real loss in years made him question things for the first time which pushed him to give Yusei the Stardust so they could have a proper rematch.
Definetly agree on the Yusei vs Antinomy duel ; however for the Jack vs Yusei I have to disagree : it's Jack's loss that makes him look back on all the sacrifices he has done to become King, and now he's not sure if he's worthy to be king, if Goodwin shouldn't have picked Yusei instead (which he says before the second duel). His loss against Yusei gives him self doubt and is the start of Jack's development
It also leads into Yusei's 2nd win. Jack was trying to prove himself as a king, so he set everything up to be the same as their first duel. Yusei knew that and used it against Jack.
I think the WRGP was the perfect place to give Yusei a couple of losses. If he, Jack, and Crow had rotated their positions every once in a while, we could have seen Yusei's points hit 0 against Team Unicorn or Team Taiyo, only to have Jack or Crow follow him up and bring home the win for the group. Team 5D's had plot armor in that tournament, but it was a missed opportunity to give the other guys the spotlight, and show that Yusei isn't completely unbeatable.
if you think that's bad, just look at the WRGP in World championship 2011 at one point your told your the 2nd person in the dueling line, but if you lose, your team loses
@@Hoffanheim Only western fans think like that the story says he lost he had no counter to Kiryu’s attack and he had a whole character arc revolving around finding his resolve again. The reason they didn’t let his life points hit 0 is because he would have died. If we’re counting only “canon” duels then he’s tied with Atem having only 1 lose. Yugi has never legitimately been defeated but that’s only because he didn’t duel that much. Yusaku imo having 3 draws is worse than 1 loss, 2 draws I say is equal to 1 loss
I think the main takeaway from this is that Yu-gi-oh has to be very careful with introducing “you lose and you die” type stakes to arcs because that immediately sets a precedent that the main character cannot lose unless there is some plot BS to get them out of the consequences. The writers need to plan the whole story out so the stakes remain high and there is some mystery as to what happens, because a plot where the protagonist absolutely cannot lose a duel gets boring really fast, and a BS get of jail free card for the MC avoiding the consequences can really diminish the audience’s immersion in the plot.
that or at least establish duels that "doens't matter who wins, the story can continue", like the final yuri versus yuya duel. at the end, it really doesn't matter who wins because zarc gets completed. you cna even have that yuri winds, but yuya is the main body of zarc
Yeah. To me there were always 2 types of duels: Serious duels and casual duels. Serious duels are the ones where the stakes are so high you already know the outcome. Casual duels are the ones where there can be stakes but where losing is actually a possibility.
@@MrMarinus18 honestly yugioh probably should not be as dark of a show considering how things went with arc v and vrains. arc v ...had the worst story of the bunch and had stuff like yuri vs yuya have the hero win only for the hero to become the main final villain. like yuri may as well have won there. as for vrains...when you make a character that has never losted not even in the way yusei almost lost to dark signer kalin round one....yeah it got to the point where it just became predictable. as dillian mentions with the bohman thing. yusaku drawed or won against him in a span of 3 rounds. and bohman was the final boss of season 2 and yusaku was the only one left standing. we all knew he was gonna win. also yusaku should have had more duels in season 3. instead he had....one duel and it was the final duel of the series. with revolver and soulburner still alive. they could have dueled ai first but no. heck ai even spares blue maiden so she could have teamed up with the others.
It is not about a Yugioh show being primarily dark or light, it is about making convincing stakes. If you make them too high constantly like Vrains, everything just becomes predictable. Like duels being to the death or losing their Ignis. Since Playmaker and Soulburner need to drive their plot, they have practically perfect records while their side characters are just bullied on (Go, Aoi, Ghost Girl, Blood Shepherd) to make the villain look tough. I am glad stuff like Yugi vs Raphael, Jaden vs Aster or most of Yuma's duels happen. Catch us off guard every now and then. I know of a cooking anime which tends to suffer from "He has to win or he is expelled from the school" which makes the enjoyment rather limited as you know how it ends. Or side characters only ever losing to make things tense.
Here's my contribution to the list that probably many people don't consider: Aki vs. Team Pegasus in 5Ds In the series, after Jack gets absolutely crushed, Aki (in her first riding duel match) summons both Stardust and Black Rose but ultimately loses, passing on Stardust to Yusei in the process. Yusei then proceeds to solo Team Pegasus through the power of protagonists and one of the biggest, dumbest instances of luck I've ever seen. Aki as a character basically got partially written out of 5Ds once Crow entered the picture. After the the match versus Team Pegasus I don't believe Aki duels a single time outside of the one versus Sherry where Aki and Crow team up. Aki also only had one signature win in the series (Misty). While her arc was a lot more character-driven and emotional as she tried to come to terms with herself, her family, and her place in society versus your more typical action-y female protagonist, I think having her get one more win would've been great for her, particularly with her winning with Stardust and Black Rose together to cement the bonds she's formed and showcase her growth thanks to Yusei. She still needs to lose so Yusei can do his thing, but her beating the first Pegasus member would've allowed her to come into her own as a duelist and character while also allowing the end of the duel to end better, where Yusei's win isn't decided by him baiting his opponent into being an absolute moron.
You've earned my like. Wish I could like this 10 times. There was no reason to give Yusei 3 wins back to back like that to make him that overpowered compared to the others. Jack should have loss, Aki should have won, tied with Breo and Yusei finishes off the last guy Jean.
I really think the WRGP was the perfect structure to give Yusei some losses. If he was in the first or second spot on his team, he could have taken a couple losses and passed the baton to Jack, Aki, or Crow, who can show their skills in a higher-stakes environment than supporting characters usually get.
Team Pegasus was my favourite duel in 5ds just because of this. They had a legitimate strategy, cased their opponents before the duel and fought as a complete unit. I think it's a mark of how good the writing of a duel is if the writers can't think of an ending which isn't at least a little disappointing. At least it wasn't a fabled "Destiny draw" where Yusei's final draw wins the game. I was actually worried when I heard Team Catastrophe say that Pegasus weren't anything special because I thought that if 5ds struggled this much against Pegasus, how were they going to win against them? With regards to Crow and Aki, wasn't that due to an executive decision because of how popular Blackwings were at the time? I remember seeing Dylan's video on how Crow was meant to be the Dark Signer boss initially, but it was changed because Blackwings were so popular and were deemed to need more screentime. Sucks but money talks.
@@noahduffin5492 Honestly I think the way it ended is worse than a "Destiny Draw." Because they were such a complete unit, the fact that Jean literally decided to throw the duel because Yusei essentially baited him into attacking cheapens the entire match. Yes the match was about helping Jean reclaim his love of dueling or whatever, but this is a tournament. You can reclaim your love of dueling/beating your opponent and still win by not attacking like any sane duelist does. I'd also argue that having Yusei solo the entire team reduced the stakes and made Team Catastrophe less threatening. Even if Jack/Crow/Aki are next to useless, why does it matter when Yusei can just break his back carrying everyone? Narratively speaking, it would have been so much better to have Aki win one before Yusei taking over or even Yusei trying to solo everyone but coming up short to drive home the lesson of being able to rely/trust others. The latter could've set up an awesome rematch later in the tournament before Team 5Ds moved on to face Ragnarok.
Freaking Team Unicorn outcome was a joke, and there are two ways it could have been changed to make it way better (and no this isn't about just the WAY Yusei won) 1. Yusei should lose to Jean. There are no real stakes at this point, you can lose one round and still be in the tournament, so 5Ds losing here wouldn't stop them. In addition, it'd be a great learning experience for the gang. It's mentioned multiple times that Unicorn are experts at working as a team, while 5Ds has very little idea what they're doing in a format they have no experience in. Losing to a team that actually works as a team would show them they need to step it up and work together properly 2. Just let Aki beat Andre. If you REALLY want 5Ds to win, at least don't do the stupid "Yusei beats the whole team" thing. Seriously, it's Aki's ONLY duel in the tournament, and she gets one cool moment with summoning Stardust which is immediately torn down and she gets destroyed. Give her ONE win here guys come on...
This... I literally came into the comments to write this and I couldn't have said it better myself. It would reiterate Crow's point when he was telling Aki that none of them could possibly be ready for this kind of tournament.
Yusei losing to Jean also makes him look a little less invincible and that he needs his team. With that duel Yusei won the entire thing pretty much on his own which makes his team look a little redundant, especially Aki. It also would have really upped the stakes with team Catastrophe since they would have robbed team 5DS of the rematch they wanted.
I'd be okay with Shun winning, but not with him disappearing completely afterwards. I don't know, maybe as he's about to leave Heartland he catches Yuya's duel with Reiji and can feel Yuto's energy coming Yuya (Don't ask how, he just can) and decides to watch, therefore seeing Yuzu's revival and giving him hope that Ruri is still alive in some way. I don't know, I feel like it'd give him better closure somehow and leave his story on a bittersweet but hopeful note.
The real problem with GX is that everyone not named Jaden needed to pull their weight a lot more. It makes no sense that he has to duel and defeat almost all of the Shadow Riders single-handedly. E-Heroes are cool, but they don't need to be cool at the expense of the entire supporting cast!
Yeah. I like the shadow riders were a serious threat that could defeat our favs, but Judai didn't need to be the team solo winner:either have other people fix the other messes or keep some of their losses but let them have some wins
Honestly, some of if really is just a pacingissue. A great example is that in my eyes, Syrus and Chazz should have dueled at least once each in the other world-arc. One to give him material as the good duelist he is and the other one, so that he actually does something besides randomly playing the wandering sage-archtype for no reason. However, they literally couldn't, even if they wanted to. Because they already wasted half the season on some other storyarcs that didn't need to be as long as they were and thus the plot had to rush itself to the finishline.
@@lpfan4491 This is why I don't get the people who love GX's third and fourth season so much. At that point they'd introduced so many side characters that old ones got shafted and basically just became cheerleaders. We're also supposed to still believe Chazz, Alexis, and Syrus are all strong and relevant duelists by season 4 after they all barely got any good duels anymore?
@@limonbattery It's a big blow to S3 for sure, but I still love it because I think the plot is good, the new characters are well done and even tho they got shafted, I think Chazz and Syrus still look decent on the character-side of things. Besides that it actually makes me care for Zane after he pulled a lot of edgy nonsense in S1 and especially 2. If I had the choice, I'd personally just extend the season to get in everything it misses out on, but if I had to cut down on something, I would really be the existing first half because it barely even play to the season's strenghs the way it is.
Yugo was at least kinda funny. XYZ users in Arc-V were always trash. I liked Shun's conviction, and the theme was cool, but he gets flexed on so much it's hilarious. And to think that his archetype has its own Towers! XD
I think if we say he should have gotten a draw instead of straight up winning, it would have been something that could have actually happened and it would reflect positively on his character.
Idk about Yusei losing to Jack, I think its important that Jack almost loses that duel, so his character development can start with him realizing that Yusei out played him and he isn't all that, but I totally understand the aspect of Yusei actually losing.
They did do Joey dirty with him vs Zigfried. That was Joey’s last on screen duel in classic, and he lost to...that guy. And it was shown as, he just got unlucky with compensation mediation. His luck failed him in his last duel, still feels wrong for things to go that way after all his development
Exactly! I mean! Look at Joey's Duels from Battle City, Virtual World, and FInal Duels in Marik Arc, and the Orichalcos Arc! He had Gotten Significantly Better as a Duelist! Sure, Joey had some moments of silly in the duels, but no matter how much his opponents cheated (or how much they rigged the game) he always came out on top! Joey's duels always fascinated me due to the fact that he had to outsmart his enemies and even use "Luck" Cards (Coin flips, Dice, Roulette wheels) to really screw over his opponents since they can't Just cancel the Card Effects of activations since their Effectiveness had to be gambled! It pissed me off the Zeigfried had access to SUPER Messed up cards that Locked Out the Game, or were completely illegal to use. Golden Castle was made by Zeigfried to Screw the Kaiba Corp System! Kaiba should've allowed Joey to Re-duel Zeigfried! Just so we can See Joey pull off a Win, as I would've loved to see how Joey could actually win. Hell, I would vouched for Kaiba to out and out cancel the Duel Between the two during their first match since he KNOWS Zeigfried was cheating!
I'm really resonating with the Aoi vs Soulburner change. Aoi needed some kind of win. She was hyped up at the very start to be one of the best duelists in the VRAINS, and yet all we really see is her losing. Her "big wins" were against Baira and Haru, two characters who got one full duel each and had no meaningful legacy. Hell, Baira goes on to be cannon fodder later. It got to the point by the end where I expected losses from her well before duels even got seriously started. Whereas the opposite was true for Soulburner. He, by contrast, felt like the most invincible "best friend" character I could remember. Hell, I half expected him to beat Bohman only for Lightning to return as the final boss. You talk about Soulburner vs Revolver as a big upset, but I was completely unsurprised. Maybe a loss or draw to Aoi could fix both problems in my mind. Giving some legitimacy to Aoi as a duelist while adding some amount of vulnerability to Soulburner.
A DRAW would have been fine enough. Also, giving Haru extra moments , like say, haru challening soulrbuern to a duel offscreen while bowman and yusaku have their second duel, only for it turn out that haru was beating soulburner offscreen and only reason soulburner didn't lose was because bowman was defeated before haru's and soulburner's duel ended. that way you give soulburner some defeat, and establish haru as someone competent
@@CaptainRed1000 Draw, then. It's a valid result. Or have circumstances conspire to prevent Flame's retrieval. Revolver was supposed to be "allowed" to destroy Windy, but he escaped.
I think the only reason the writers made it that way was too make the Light Brigade seem like an actual threat. Because for the most part the only one of them who was actually pretty strong was T-Bone. And sadly we don't see Blaze duel
Chazz should've beaten Jaden only once he returned to DA from his North Academy escapade. Yuri should've beaten Yuya to form Zarc regardless, and Yuya could've lost while fighting for egao. Blue Angel could've beaten Spectre. It was ok with him winning though. Yugi sould've beaten Rebecca; I don't think his reason for surrendering is nearly as compelling as their grandpas'
Yeah and the duel with his brother could still work, the brothers were going to destroy the school (pretty sure it has been some time since I last saw GX), just make chazz chazz it up for the school and defend it. Also I wish that we had two more duels in GX one last Zane vs Jaden duel and one more bastion duel( even if he loses) Edit two more duel from Gx that maybe changing the result would've been better, is Satorius vs Aster (it would've been coll to make it two v 1 and make aster fo the last blow) and syrus vs Zane (make it a draw, I fell that would've been great for Zane, because for me he helping in season 3 felt forced considering how the character was, with this I fell that it would show some light to Zane, and make syrus better
@@ravinercf the yuri vs yuya one im surprised wasnt mention. cause zarc was made regardless. yuris plan was to become one to become zarc. to which he did despite losing.
I loved Yuya vs Yuri as it is because even though Yuya won, he “lost” by giving in to Zarc (& that Reiji told him to focus on winning). It’s kinda like a Batman vs Joker fight where Joker gets the last laugh.
@@thatman666 This sounds uncharacteristically simplified from Reiji's perspective when he's normally quite good at reading a situation. The action would be more fitting if he were to say, betray the lancers and try to conquer all dimensions alongside his father. Ridicule World was a last laugh and it doesn't dispell Yuri as an antag or destroy Yuya's credibility as a protag. The fact that this duel ended this way because they couldn't give the "protag" a late game loss is to me a sorry excuse for writing.
17:30 Even if people argue "but if Aoi beats Soulburner she would take Flame with her and give it to SOL tech" well, You can just have her not to, that, in exchange of giving Flame back to Soulburner, she (and Ghost Girl) will just tag along with them and learn what that anomaly is about. that they are separate from SOL and just want info. that way she gets a little more involved with the Ignis stuff, meeting Windy, maybe even Bowman earlier. And she would have an even bigger shock when seeing Earth's vivisection. because she would realize she could have gotten Flame Killed
ULGROTHA In all fairness to the writers, after the amount of negatively received risks and backlash Arc V had, can you really blame them with being safe with Vrains? Although I agree I would’ve loved more shock results/risks, I don’t think they thought they could afford one in this Duel at the time of scripting the episode.
@@coop0812 im just not a big fan of yuya cause his dueltainment his pretty weak compare to others. Everytime i see his entertainment duel, his opponents seems more fun.
@@angusbeefyeung funny cause Yusaku duels put me to sleep it was so predictable I was getting irritated with him plus his character was just bland and boring Don't like him at all
@@antoniobolden8992 i would accept him if he didnt have such a brick wall personality and if characters didnt die every season. Everytime i watch a new vrain season, they keep dieing and coming back like nothing happened. Arc v did have that depth with the carding but how it was resolved was so lazy and it made me hate it even more. Hell the last duel of vrains felt like diet zexal.
Even though it would’ve changed the plot significantly, I would’ve had Leo obtain Life Stream Dragon and his signer mark during his duel with Devack so that Crow’s Black Winged Dragon never became a thing. I’m not against Crow being part of the main cast, I’m against Life Stream Dragon, the actual 5th signer dragon, getting completely forgotten about until damn near the end of the series.
Imagine being the 5th dragon of legend and then screwing around for half the series in a weaker form because you are lazy and some other dragon appeared to fill in for you.
It would have made sense, but Life Stream wouldn't have been very useful there. That, however, would show that the Signers shouldn't rely too much on their dragons.
technically unrelated but the Japanese VA for Luca (Luna) did a PHENOMENAL job along with the rest of the cast that whole episode but especially after Lua (Leo) collapses, those screams straight up haunt me.
There is a problem with your Joey wins against Ziegfried. Joey would have then progressed to duel Leon and then he would have had to lose to Leon to progress the story as it did. I wish Joey had more wins especially without using luck.
No, unless you count his goddess combo cheating. Aside from messing with the rides and stuff he did nothing illegal in the duel. Joey lost fair and square.
I just wish they would've gave Joey more Red-Eyes support like Red eyes fusion/Red eyes wyvern/darkness metal dragon/darkness dragon etc.. He would actually be considered a tier 1 duelist but instead they keep his deck super luck reliant.
Arc v. Sora vs shun rematch. One of the worst duels I ever saw. Shun had to be dumb down super hard to lose. Aki vs team pegusus. Let her win the first match and set up stardust dragon to allow her o show her skill. Then the hook team take her out for her combo with yusie. Goodwin vs Goodwin. Let rex win but then end himself before his brother loses to allow both to battle. Kaiba vs Yugi on roof. Kaiba winning without trying to end himself would have been better. Kaiba grows and uses all his heart to win to save mokuba. Anyone vs yusaku. He was so plot heavy that I wish when ai left in between the middle of the story yusaku loses a duel and then ai comes back and he wins again. Would have helped his story better. Yuto vs yugo. Let them have a real duel and then yuto wins but yugo disappears to the synchro duel after. Marik vs Joey. Let marik absolutely destroy Joey in every way instead. Yusie vs jack was fine. Yusaku sucks more with his plot armor.
Goodwin mirror match that's kinda what he did, he had Solemn Judgement, Mirror Force, and something else I don't remember set, Rudger says himself on seeing them Rex could've won had he used them, but Rex "needed to die to get the dark signer's power".
@@snowboundwhale6860 he chose to use cards that wouldn't give him a good deck so even if he did try his best he would brick Also thinking about kiryu vs yusie. Aki vs misty is basically the same thing as both Aki and yusie go into comas after the duel
DM: Agree with your picks and don't have any to add off the top of my head GX: Random, but Sho vs Kenzan. Both were wanting to be Judai's Bro and a draw here would've been hilarious for that "rivalry" 5Ds: Jack vs Carly, the only Dark Signer duel that felt like a Signer should've lost (not counting Crow since he wasn't a Signer against Bommer) ZEXAL: Yuma vs Shark on the Hospital Rooftop after Mizael's debut duel. Shark winning here could've sent the message that the enemy isn't going to care if Yuma's is down and hurt, they'll attack with everything and he should be prepared at all times. Arc-V: Shun vs Crow, then we would've gotten Yuya vs Shun in the Friendship Cup which could've planted the seeds towards Shun being less angsty later on. VRAINS: Not really a duel result change, but have Akira duel Ai solo and lose, then Angry Aoi duel and beat Roboppi. That way the three heroes each get a big win at the end, Aoi over Roboppi, Soulburner over Revolver, and Playmaker over Ai.
Shun vs Crow was a duel that made Shun go down a lesser road for me. After this duel, Shun does not win a major duel on his own fairly. The duel also did Ultimate Falcon dirty as the first time the raidraptor boss monster is summoned, it gets beaten quickly.
I have noticed a pattern in the Yu-Gi-Oh Series' names. The name GX has 2 characters, 5DS has 3 characters, ZEAL (X is stylistic) has 4 characters, ARC-V has 5 characters and VRAINS has 6 characters. Sevens and Go Rush unfortunatelly broke this pattern.
@@christopherb501 When Duel Monsters was created, there were no plans for sequels, also the original manga is just called YuGiOh, but the Duel Monsters anime is called that to diferrenciate it from YuGiOh Season 0, which is called just YuGiOh originally.
Shingo Sawatari vs LITERALLY EVERY OPPONENT he faced in a single duel. I am serious Sawatari was a very useless character in ARC V. He always had to work together with others in order to get the win. He lost to Yuya, Yuto, A FREAKING SECTOR SECURITY OFFICER, Yugo, Kaito, The Tyler Twins, Zarc (Even though it looked like he was almost able to defeat Zarc) and lastly Gongenzaka. For me he was just a punching bag that gave out free wins.
What I would've done is write in a duel where he fights Yuri on his own (maybe someone else tag-duels and loses) and he pulls out a miraculous win. It gives him at least one amazing win, has him have dueled all the Yu- boys, unsettles Yuri to the point where he's more willing to assimilate with his counterparts into being Z-ARC again for the sake of being unbeatable and all-consuming, as opposed to just "grr! destroy! tee hee!"...seems like a nifty fit to me.
Sawatari is such a tragidy. He's a good character and a good duelist, but he always loses in the end because the writers thought that was an amazing idea.(It's really not)
@@Archon3960 @T. Shingo got done so dirty. Dude really tried his best in his duels and he didn't even get a major win. It sucks he definitely should have shined more. His second duel against Yuya I feel would have been a good win for him. Not only that, he became such a nice character afterwards and a total bro through everything that happened. He absolutely deserved more. Seeing him have a crush on Serena in one of the endings was cute and with some development I think would have worked. It's too bad because I really liked his personality but he didn't even win one single duel.
1. Mai vs joey last duel: It wasn't a good ending for joey in that arc and I think a 3V1 duel against dartz would have been a better thing to see just like zexal trio's duel against Dr. Faker. 2. Edo vs manjoume: I know people will get angry with me but edo really didn't need to lose there to develop manjoume's character. Manjoume putting up a good fight against Edo but losing in the end would still be fine since edo was like the monster that defeated both kaiser and judai in season 2. Manjoume's honorable loss would be a better thing cuz I think Edo got humiliated by the writers. 3. Aki vs Andore: This was the perfect time to give aki a huge win and pass the baton to yusei after a couple of turns against breo. I mean Andore didn't had to beat them both right?? 4. Yuma vs shark(the duel in the hospital after the mizael vs kaito duel) :It was a nice chance to give yuma a loss and a lesson from shark. Plus shark could have added a 2nd W against his archrival 5. Revolver vs Lightning : I think revolver should be the one to beat lightning. Lightning was one of the reasons why revolver suffered, that is why it was revolver 's right to beat him. The ending was kinda ridicolous too, first avoiding defeat using the same tactic that noah used against kaiba, then ending the duel with 1 LP was kinda confusing and unnecessary.
@@ravinercf yes, you're right! I think they should have made like they did with May. You know, buffing Marik so we could actually believe Joey was the real loser
I’m not sure when, but I would have loved to see sector security win against someone at some point. Even as a child, it was hard for me to suspend my disbelief and see these goobers as anything resembling a threat. Maybe, maybe against Crow the first time, use the excuse that he hasn’t dueled in a while since he’s stealing cards anyway but he gets away with his surprise flying duel runner in the end anyway, anything. Sector security never felt like a threat, so a win might have helped them actually feel like less of time-wasting doofuses
Some corrections: Kaiba didn't actually lose against Noah he was just frozen in stone and Yugi continued from where he left off. And Kaiba wouldn't have dueled Joey in the Grand Championships because the only reason he dueled Zigfried was because Zigfried did some shady stuff behind the scenes.
GX has a lot of duels where jaden wins just to make him cooler than he actually is so I’d change a fuck lot of those. I have way more issues with jadens win record than yusei
Well a lot of Jaden's duels aren't even of any story relevance and are mostly duel of the week. Those could just be cut out entirely and nothing would be lost from the narrative.
@@numberhunter62 This is true. A common theme with GX is that they have one duel per episode rather than one duel split into 3 or 4 parts. This why Jaden's record is so crazy because he has way too many duels/wins against random one off side characters that just pop up for the sake of the episode and half of his wins are during filler episodes.
@@ravinercf I agree. Most filler was just "Win or the dorm gets destroyed". It didn't have to be just Jaden defending it. Take Crowler vs Bonaparte for instance so rotating between the characters for fun. Alexis got most of her victories from filler so a few more would been fine. Bastion, Hasselberry and Syrus just deserved to duel more in general.
1:53 the "this duel should have happened instead" could very well be its own top. Some suggestions: from VRAINS: Final Roboppy duel be versus Aoi From ARC-V: Have the Bracelet Girls and the Yu-Boys fight in a sort of "mental-plane" duel ALL while Ray and Zarc and having the duel in the real world. Both using combination of cards of their counterparts decks (Example, Zarc using a Pendulum Supreme King Servant The Phantom Knights, or Supreme King Servant Speedroid; and Ray using say Lunalight and Melodius monsters with the "En" word in them)
I would have Kalin vs Yusei in Crash Town end in a draw. Mostly because Yusei won and he still went to mines, but in a way of draw,Lawton would be like "since they lost sent them both there"or something. Not like plot would change
Yeah, but to be honest I would have liked to have seen crash town be a longer arc in general, maybe between an arc or something. Yusei vs Kalon to draw would have been way better. I know they were trying to make Lawton seem more intimidating, but you can achieve the same th8ng with just him beating Radley.
Yeah. People say that while claiming that Malik beat Jounouchi. That duel was also technically a no result. No one lost, but everyone sais Malik beat Jounouchi anyways.
The 1st Jack vs Yusei was a totally incomplete duel, Yusei didn't have his dragon, it got interrupted, and it ended with no conclusion. All of it was corrected in the rematch at the finals. But it was great to see some of same strategies used in both duels, and how each character prepared countermeasures for the rematch.
the ones coming to my mind: 1. Judai vs Alexis (season 1): I just feel like this would have been a good time for Judai to suffer his 1st on-screen lose. Alexis would most likely still keep what happened between them, and not tell a soul. Judai, with his happy-go-lucky personality, wouldn't care about his lose and this would also be a good opportunity to show the difference in skills. Alexis could've just told Zane afterwards that she saw great potential in Judai, which would make Zane curious and those 2 would still duel. 2. Aoi vs Spectre: I just felt like this duel would've been a good opportunity for Aoi to win. The end result would still be the same, Yuya would still face Revolver in the end. All it would do was that it would either give Revolver an extra duel OR Aoi would just be a bystander and watch the final season 1 duel.
@@matts5164 I alternatively wish Aoi have had the final duel versus robopy. I mena, soulburner was gonna eventually have his duel with revolver anyways, so why not just let aoi, who has the biggest reasons and parallels to roboppy, be the one to fight roboppy instead.
Eh. I agree more with Dylan's choice here. For Spectre, his whole gimmick is that he gets into his opponents head, he's not a strong duelist, even according to Lightning. He even confused Playmaker for a while and fucked with Lightning. It was good to show that. But no matter what, she certainly would've needed another win in some way.
Jaiden doesn't take losses well remember when he lost to edo phoenix he did not take it very well only when he dueld kaibaman and lost and learn that losing is not the end of the world.
_DM: Seto Kaiba vs Noah_ _GX: Jaden vs Chazz(third duel), Bastion vs Tania, Aster vs Adrian, Zane vs Yubel and Jaden vs Chazz(last duel)_ _5D's: Antimony vs Yusei(First duel)_ _Zexal: Idk_ _Arc-V: Yuya vs Sawatari(second duel), Tsukikage vs Shinji, Shun vs Crow, Yugo vs Rin, Yugo vs Yuri, Yuya vs Shun_
First one agree. Second one disagree. Third one agree. Fourth one, Fifth one disagree. Unsure Sixth one. 5ds one k. Arc-V first one disagree. No idea on the second one. Agree on third. Disagree on fourth and fifth. Agree on last. Overall you have very biased emotional picks instead of logical for character's sake.
@@promisnwekenta9703 _I think that Chazz deserved to beat Jaden the third time(when he dueled for the North Academy) because of his brothers and Chazz in general deserved to beat Jaden at least once._ _Also, why do you disagree with Sawatari vs Yuya(second duel) and with Yugo vs Rin?_
@@azfarabdullah9638 _Adrian's victory was useless, he won but he lost to Yubel a few episodes later getting nothing._ _Aster's loss in that duel is the beginning of the end of his character._
@@geg708 Yeah, but its not all about beating people. Chazz character arc is to become a better human. More respectful, better duelist, more confidence in yourself, etc. And through many defeats that should happen, since chazz is really flawed in s1. He aint that good, selfish, arrogant, bunch of negative traits. And about the other 2 duels i disagreed with. Although sawatari quite shows the progression in s1, he still isnt strong enough to defeat yuya, but pretty close. Yugo was manipulated emotionally, thus he lost. He is kinda impulsive, so fits. Also lets dont strip wins off bracelet girls, they are already pretty worthless as it is. Thanks writers.
I think the writers did everything they could to show Revolver is far more superior than Lightning, but they couldn't have him straight up win because of their plans for the final duel of the season. Still the duel ended in a draw and Lightning perished so it didn't hurt Revolver's character.
@@coolplanet1 Yeah plus the writers showed how desperate Lighting was and I liked that Bohman comment that Lighting might be the most human because of the cheating.
@@matts5164 the problem though is...again the stakes. bohman was going to absorb lightning and be the final boss anyway, and yusaku would have won since yusaku beat or tied bohman 3 times
One result I would definitely change is in Arc-V. The one I'm talking about is Edo/Aster versus Yuya (Round 2). The change I would make is at the end of he duel, Yuya is about to defeat Edo with Odd-Eyes and smile world, and Edo has facedown Mystical Space Typhoon. If he activates it, he wins, but he chooses not to activate it and his LP drop to 0. He'd still lose, but this time on purpose. This would not only give Edo a sort of a win and show his strength as commander, but also be a metaphor that Edo is willing to smile again. Having Edo lose on purpose would make a lot of sense and would also be a throwback to Edo and Judai's first duel in GX. Also, it'd make the viewers think "If Edo was about to defeat Yuya, what about the others at Academia? What about Akaba Leo?" It would be an awesome build up of tension and also make the GX and Edo fans happy.
I’ve got a few: 1) Chazz should’ve beaten Jaden (the duel where Chazz’s brothers featured). He could’ve had an epiphany part way through, realise that he didn’t need his brothers for success and parlay that into a win 2) Shay should’ve beaten Yuya (Shay blamed Yuya for Ruri’s disappearance and it would’ve been closure if Shay had won) 3) Zane should’ve beaten Jaden (where Jaden was scared of Polymerization. I know if Jaden lost, he couldn’t go through the door, but Jaden could’ve snuck through when everybody was asleep) 4) This one is for a subbed episode, but Lazar should’ve beaten Crow (but not by Crow trying to throw the duel) and decide to help fight Illiaster anyway 😃😃😃
Wait if I remember correctly the Lazar vs crow duel was kinda funny because Lazar wanted to throw away but crow didn't let him because he wanted to throw away but again lazar didn't wanted crow to throw away because he wanted to throw away 😂
A few things: Chaz’s winning wouldn’t have done anything because a couple episodes later Chazz’s brothers came back and Chazz was able to beat them and he beat them with weak cards while his brothers were using the cards they wanted him to use against Jaden this proving already that he is better than his brothers No, there is no closure from beating someone who wasn’t involved That duel was to show Jaden’s weakness and how unprepared he was to duel after losing himself into the darkness; there wasn’t supposed to be a winner Crow should have won if anything; Lazar was mostly toying with him; underestimating him...Crow winning would have showed he had the skills...and lazar would have gotten humbled
I would have changed: VRAINS:Bohman vs Playmaker 1st/2nd to a DRAW, to build up Bohman, Hell even give him a win and then Ai rescueing Playmaker Ghost Girl vs Blood Shepherd with change I mean erase, because it did nothing in the end ZEXAL: Mizael vs Kaito 2nd (Sargasso) give them a real duel to show more of their powers, yes the moon duel was epic but it could have been even better 5Ds Aki vs Andre Was it so hard to give her a win, no we need to hype up the Team Unicorn who will never appear again XD
Could've had Bohman draw Round 1 (or lose since he was kinda... imperfect), lose in Round 2, then BEAT Yusaku. However, instead of some 'magic get out of free log out' nonsense, just have Bohman- who is a super honorable duelist- simply say that they are 'even' now, setting the stakes for the final match
Agreed except for the fact that the moon duel was NOT epic or at least there was a lot of room for improvement. We suddenly go from Galaxy-Eyes prime photon dragon being awesome to Orbital Seven talking about his love life which completely ruins the mood. (That episode should have been replaced with something else, maybe the Kaito and Haruto backstory that was hinted at during Yuma's and Katio's tag duel together. I'd take less ridiculous filler then Orbital 7 falling in love also) Everyone forgot about overlay booster's effect, also Kaito winning but still dying was lame.
In the GX manga I think Asuka should have beaten Judai when they dueled. The duel meant a lot more to Asuka than it did to Judai. Similarly, like many people are saying in the comments, THE CHAZZ should have won in his North Academy duel against Judai.
In duel monsters, it wouldve been way better if Kaiba beat Yugi legitimately in duelist kingdom. It wouldve made Yugi's anguish over the loss more understandable and wouldve made pegasus more terrifying. It also would have created more tension in battle city. It would have been the true battle to determine the king of games instead of yugi just defending his title
Kaiba technically should've won. He had Blue-Eyes Ultimate with 4500 and nothing in Yugi's deck came close to that at the time. So of course the writers had to create some bullshit like it being split between 3 different heads and Yugi somehow fuses a spell card with a monster and destroys it? I think Kaiba winning here would've made their rivalry that much better.
tbf I think it's said Yugi's anguish wasn't so much the loss but that the loss meant losing the ability to save his grandpa, paired with the very abrupt revelation that his "other self" was ruthless enough that he's willing to knowingly kill Kaiba. Being a kind teen and suddenly finding out you share your body with a man who *will kill* with only about as much hesitation as a "Is he serious? *weighs options*" thought process would quite reasonably throw a guy for a loop.
Sorry to come here late, but one of the duels I would have changed in GX would have been Sho vs Hell Kaiser. It wouldn't have changed anything in the plot majorly, but would have been a showcase of Sho's growth as a character.
@@laranjamecanica9588 yeah it does, he draws with Kenzan at the start of the season and beats Kaiser a little more than half way through the season. Plenty of time to showcase his growth as a duelist and character.
Zane should have beaten Yubel possessing Jesse, but it would be done in a way that wouldn't change the story. Zane would beat Yubel and the result would be Yubel splitting from Jesse. But right after the duel, Zane's heart gives out so he dies anyway. But he gets that final win, the final amazing duel that he always dreamed of with his Cyber-End Dragon. And then the plot can continue pretty much the exact same. Jesse is free but maybe he's unconscious. And Jaden has to duel and beat Yubel so he and his friends can return to their world. Everything after will be preserved almost exactly, with the only difference being that Zane gets the victory I think he really deserves.
Yuto vs Yugo: No result, Yuya (possibly showing his berserk eyes) intervines in the duel and the 3 dragons roar at each other. Yuzu shows up and her braclet activates teleporting Yugo and Yuto away. Shun vs Sora rematch: Shun shouldbhave won, he could have destroyed Sora's ego and smugness by summoning a rank 7 or 8 raidraptor, chanting in anger, showing him how powerful xyzs are. Replace the scene where Serena sees Shun falls down the stairs with Sora. Here Shun shows up with his raidraptor behind. Then Serena (with an unconscious Sora) runs away because of Shun is going to card him (and also fear), Shun mistakes Serena for Ruri gives chase continue from there. Yuya vs the 3 Acadamia Students: This not as much who wins but who is dueling and is connected to the above match. Instead of Yuya dueling it could be Yuto since he harbors anger towards Acadamia, He goes bersek on them possibly summons either Dark Requim or a rank 5 Phantom Knight. He summons it at the same time Shun summons his boss monster.
Leo losing to his friends in the academy. Leo literally set up the duel for his sister to win against a dark signer and the fact that he at that moment, with no signer powers, managed to hold his own long enough so that his sister could return from the spirit world is an incredible feat. To say that he could lose to his friends in the academy so much so often STILL after pulling off that kind of feat is annoying.
Yuma VS Shark in the hospital building. In case you don't remember, after Kaito's first duel with Mizael/Mizar in the forest, Yuma and Shark were hospitalized and Yuma was insecure about his strength. Shark offered Yuma a duel while pretending to be like he was in episode 1. Yuma defeats Shark, having passed the test. But in this alternate reality, Shark would defeat Yuma. Why? That was a no-stakes duel, and Shark could tell Yuma that he isn't ready to face the Varians yet and that Yuma needs more confidence. Also, this would be a good build up to Yuma and Nasch's eventual and dramatic final duel, where Yuma ends up winning. I think this would've been a massive win for Shark, who would be one of the few YuGiOh characters to have defeated the protagonist more than once.
Yuya vs Shun is still baffles me till this day, yes Shun should had won that duel. And don’t get me started with Soulburner duels, Soulburner is target demographic character of Vrains.The reason why people lost interest in Yugioh because of the writer’s poorly decisions.
To be fair, those two got screwed not by the writers but by circumstances Crow and his deck's popularity combined with the situation with Carly's original VA screwed Akiza and her development and said situation with Carly's original VA screwed her and Jack's relationship over and her as a result
I think Manjoume (Chazz) should've beat Judai (Jaden) after returning from North Academia. It would show that he is strong now and the power of Manjoume Thunder.
Yusei was about to and couldn't have done a damn thing about it, but unfortunately the writers would rather he crash and therefore get the duel officially considered a dnf (did not finish) then just let him lose and THEN crash. So realistically he did lose and anyone who tries to pretend he wouldn't have is dumb, but alas, he didn't "technically" lose.
@@jaernihiltheus7817 Pretty much. Although, an unofficial duel can't have an official result. And I disagree that Yusei losing and then crashing would be better than him crashing instead of losing. If Apu's attack had connected, it would have consumed Yusei's soul. So the writers had him crash just before the attack hit, and Kiryu left him there with a pipe in his gut to suffer instead of finishing him off. The amount of plot armor nonsense they would have to make up to keep Apu from consuming Yusei even though he lost would be ridiculous, and this was a realistic result that is in character for Kiryu. Yusei 100% lost, and Kiryu styled on him at the end of it to add insult to literal injury. It's a much more interesting result than a normal loss, but they probably didn't anticipate Yugioh fans to pull so much bull just to say their best boi was undefeated, so now we have to deal with them constantly claiming Yusei is an undefeated Mary Sue.
I totally agree with the Arc-V points. Yuzu needed a lot more prominence in the series. The duel between Yuya and Kurosaki maybe could have ended with Yuto taking the spot of Yuya, but, because of that, Yuya-Yuto loses and Yuto tell Yuya about the others two brothers inside him and Kurosaki keeps its promise. The duel is very way too weird, so, if it had ended like this and with the details of your video, it would have been perfect to show that Yuya still has a lot to evolve. Good video, I liked a lot O/
Id change Joey vs Marik so Joey wins. It fits the story for Joey to win. The guy had spent the last two and a half seasons on the back burner while Yugi and Kaiba have had direct interaction with all the main villains. Joey also had the whole promise to Mai to help save her while Yugi didnt really have much of a promise to beat Marik. Also it would have allowed Joey to completely shut up Kaiba that hes not a terrible duelist as he just did the impossible and it sets up Joey as believable that he could defeat Atem in their later duel. Which I believe he did win. Despite the three of them being the core trio of duelist Joey is always overshadowed by the other two and a win here would be perfect
I´d change DSOD´S ending. Instead of having the Pharaoh appear, I´d make Yugi slowly rise up and summon a new monster based on Atem and wipe out Yagami. It´d be such a great ending and really show how much Yugi has grown.
@@seth9655 Not really. I personally think the Arc would've been even better if Aster joined the fight against Yubel towards the end of season 3. Adrian and Echo didnt really add much to the arc and was just there. Even though I did enjoy the Yubel vs Adrian duel I don't think it should've happened. There could of been a cool tag team duel with Aster and Jaden vs Yubel just like how it was earlier with him and Jesse.
I know it's a strange duel to choose, but in yugioh 5D's, episode 47-50: "Mark of the Monkey" I wouldn't change the result of that duel, but I would change 1 detail. I would have Leo defeat Devack all on his own, without having Luna step in and help him at the very end. It was such a great opportunity for Leo's character development as he was known to be a bit of a klutz when it came to dueling up until this point, but at least he had heart. Defeating that dark signer when he was not a signer himself would have shown how far he had come as a duelist, but Luna stepping in, right at the end, completely undercut that moment. I was actually rooting for Leo in that duel too, seeing how all this time, he's been trying to prove himself, and now he has the perfect opportunity to do so. I'm not a fan a Leo's character, but from a storytelling perspective, such a great moment for that character was completely undermined by having Luna step in.
i would have joey have lost legimately though passing out from an attack from ra after he got marik to show the abilites of ra and lasting far longer than marik could have expected. the set up is not the best for a loss that they chose
Marik was a horrible duelist who's deck wouldn't have beaten anyone if not for Ra's hacks. He should have lost to Joey and hell, even Mai but plot armor protects all villains until the final round with the protagonist.
@@Netherwolf6100 I don't really see Marik's 'plot armor' any different than Joey's luck and Yugi's heart of the cards nonsense. They gave Ra abilities that made it the most powerful God card and it works, because it sure as hell isn't in real duel monsters. Also Marik was never really in any real danger of losing against Mai like he was against Joey, he played her nearly the whole match.
@@DarthUchiha91 1: Yugi/Atem's Heart of the Cards nonsense was Atem’s ability to quite literally use his Godly powers to alter his deck and reshape the course of the duel. Atem is based on the Egyptian God Atum, a being who would reincarnate himself within the Pharaoh’s royal blood line in order to lead its people through crisis beyond human control and comprehension. Atem and even Yugi to a lesser extent is quite literally a God reincarnated into human form and without his memories, could only tap into his divine power in times of great stress and desperation. Its not some luck based ability but it’s really God Power. He’s hacking the world in his favor. Once he gets his memories back, he does just as much within his duel with Yugi, knowing the entire course of the duel and even calling cards before drawing them. That’s his power. 2: When it comes to Joey’s luck based dueling, won’t go into how unlike Yugi and Seto who had access to the best cards they could get their hands on while Joey was practically borrowing money from his friends just to make a deck out of random packs. However I’ve noticed a trend when it comes to Joey’s dueling; outside of Mako, Joey more often times than not loses to duelist who battle him honorably without tricks or lies but always wins against those who rely on such underhanded tactics, almost as if the world is trying to balance itself out. He typically wins against those who cheat while losing to those who are naturally good. He lost to Kaiba twice, lost to Yugi at least 2 times on screen, would have lost to Odion if Marik didn’t force the guy to play Ra against his will, and lost to Zigfried, all of whom didn’t cheat in any way. That seems to be Joey’s theme. He loses to those with skill and talent but falls to those who are weak-minded and liars. Marik falls under the second category because he lacked the skill to beat someone like Ishizu who relied on her Millennium Necklace after Marik went nuts, barely strung Mai along because she was off her game thanks to her emotions, and would have outright lost to Joey if not for the fact that he relies heavily on Shadow Games and his higher tolerance for pain thanks to his Bloodline and the fact that he was born from the Darkness itself like Zorc. Not to mention the fact that he based his entire deck around the most OP card to date. Marik honestly is a pretty crappy duelist who based his deck around torturing people and wearing them down with his powers instead of any skill or actual ability. At least with his insane luck, Joey still has actual ability to hold his own against forces beyond his understanding and yes, I will remain salty about that loss until the day I die.
for the GX I think we could add more duels more than one 1)Zane vs Kamula (the reason Kaiser loses always makes me pissed off though it wasn't technically a loss he did yield to save Syrus but still it was annoying) 2) Bastion vs Chazz 2 (the reason Bastion loses always makes me even more pissed off) 3) Chazz vs Jaden - Their Final Match (The reason Chazz loses makes me even more and more pissed off) Seriously I hate it when a character is clearly winner butshe/he yields by a stupid reason in the end.... For the DM and 5Ds your list is AMAZING! but I wish Kaiba could beat Yu-Gi in the Duelist Kingdom by fair and square instead of commit suicide thingy... (I know the reason but still Kaiba should have been able to beat Yugi there)
I always wish that the Bastion vs Chazz duel in season 2 would've ended with Bastion winning since he pretty much did. I wish the writers would of made it so Bastion would've felt like he's saving Chazz rather than seeking Validation from the society of light. And it would've made Bastion seem like a way stronger character. But he gets swept under the rug for some reason
@@Sniffyy I always felt so bad for Bastion... he was an interesting and fun to watch. That's for sure he was so much better duelist than Chazz and many others... Also he was a major character in the Manga. Wonder why they decided to treat him like this... in duel links he doesn't even have his own theme... I guess they enjoy trolling him
1) Agree wholeheartedly. 2) I’m okay with the result, but if it would have saved Bastion’s character to win then yes. 3) Not sure about that one, but yeah Chazz needed to beat Jaden at least once. And yes, when a stupid thing interrupts a duel it is frustrating (not all the time, sometimes there is no way to avoid it) but things like Joey loosing to Marik are not ok, and if I recall this was one of those kinda things.
Rua & Ruka vs. Lucciano The result made no sense to me! You can have Rua lose like he did and then have Ruka (a SIGNER!) step up, assert her independence and how she will be the protector this time, and get a good win for her character. Instead they essentially fast-forward to just finish the duel and have Ruka lose.
@@sirkillalot9892 That's why I don't think the result with Rua & Ruka winning is that good. Since the duel with Luccianno is meant to set him up as a threat, making him lose would've had the opposite effect, unless they made the duel like Yusei vs Antinomy R1, where Antinomy basically loses on purpose and states that Accel Synchro has much more to reveal (and by extension, he himself has more stuff to show off). Something like that would've actually worked for Luccianno vs the kids.
Super late but frankly I think it would make sense if we saw Shun watching Yuya’s later duels in the shadow if he did beat Yuya to give a slightly lighter ending to his arc. I think it’d have been way more interesting if the duel ended because he didn’t choose to use dark rebellion dragon despite being able to and him seeing it as a sort of spit on the face and Jack can still be the final pushing force if that’s nessecarry. He can choose to just watch him do what he think is embarrass himself/lose against the others but he clearly suprised and even lightens up a little as he can see the shadows of Yugo in his later plays where he embraces using all the dimensional dragons to the fullest especially Yugos. That would still leave it up in the air if Yuya and Shun ever become friends but it lightens up the otherwise really harsh ending you were proposing in comparison. Still kinda vague and harsh but more of a middle ground between the ideas.
For the Shun vs. Yuya duel a win for Shun would work here but I think a Draw would have been just as poignant. It would have let Shun accept that his best friend and sister were gone, while also letting Yuya know that sometimes his egao philosophy just doesn't work. Shun could still leave after (which I am all for) and we could get a shot of him in Heartland at the end instead of at the final duel.
@@heavydonkeykong5190 To be fair. Despite the fact they had a massive advantage with speed counters, akiza almost had a easy win on Andre. As great as it made Yusei look, we already knew he was great and akiza needed another win more after crow joined the team
@@Tirus177 Personally, the idea of Yusei beating all three of them at once sounds epic on paper, but the fact that Andre used a sacrificial tactic against Yusei iirc, and that Jean could have theoretically beat Yusei kind of takes away from that feeling in retrospect. I feel like simply having Jack lose would have been enough to establish Andre as a threat because it shows just how crazy prepared that his team was. Having him beat both of them feels like overkill to me, and they can always have the potential explanation of her summoning Stardust Dragon throwing him off, which would have been ironic given how Andre had literally just got done beating Jack by throwing him off as well. It basically would have been a contest of mind games.
I'm conflicted with the Yuya vs. Shun duel. I do think Shun's sentiment at the end is very beautiful, but also rather out of character, taking the deaths of his sister (his entire motivation for doing literally anything) and his best friend WAY too well... He deserved proper time to mourn. I feel like Arc-V tried very hard to pretend it's ending was a happy one when it really wasn't if you think about it. I do think having Shun lose and leave would have been really sad, but I also think the end of Arc-V needed a little more weight to it.
That's really the ultimate insult of Arc-V(a): not the misogynistic underpinnings with the constant mistreatment of the female cast, not the obnoxious favoritism, not the lack of explanation or even implication for the show connecting to the rest of the franchise, not the egao spam, not the Action spam; it's the inability of the show to acknowledge its ending as bittersweet at best.
DM: Yugi AND Kaiba beat Dartz GX: Chazz and Aster Draw instead of Chazz winning. 5DS: Ruka/Luna beats the Illistar guy but Rua still loses Zexal: Vector defeats Yuma Arc V: Shun and Crow DRAW instead of Crow wining Vrains: Blood Shepard duels Revolver's AI program and wins instead of dueling Revolver personally. Tried of think of duels that wouldn't change too much too.
I don't think chazz and aster phoenix should've drawed it's good that chazz won that duel as after season 2 he was pretty useless and was more of a joke character so atleast he got a big win in the end.
@@theweirdo3129 True, I did like that. But then towards the end of season 2, so did Aster lol. Loss after loss despite beating both Jaden and Zane. So, I thought maybe a DRAW would be a way of benefiting both of them.
@@Stratuji Yeah the tournament serves no purpose to the plot and they could have spared Jack's loss against Yuya. It takes a pretty large chunks of episodes too. Also I agree with Manjoume gets a draw with Edo would already show he's a great duelist.
sora's loss was just bs, literally all the duel was off screen, wining against kite using the action cards would have been a crucial momment to kite (arc v) character realising teamwork is as fundamental as having good cards, against crow i disagree, that is a good loss, not a plot bs loss, they both went all in and crow came on top with a synchro 12 using two synchro monsters, BUUUUT shay vs zarc should have gon different, mabe not destroying zarc but destroying the xyz part of zarc by overcoming the supreme king with one punch just like yuto did to calm him down when he first met yuzu
What if Chazz lost to Alexis in the SOL and subsequently lost to Sartorius? It sucked that the Chazz vs Alexis duel was so short, but also the lack of variety in that arc. The order of events would have to be tweaked a bit but... freed Chazz could have dueled Bastion and Atticus could have tried to save Alexis.
You actually can make video rant about the whole end of arc v , it's been 3 years and I still don't understand what the writers were thinking . This end was complete GARBADGE
1000% agree with Noah vs. Seto, that duel is a black stain on that arc, as boring as it was, that duel made it one of the worst in the franchise imo. I might have added the Zarc duel to the list by having Reiji win but I don't know if that quite fits in the parameters of "completely changing" the results of the duel, I think it would have made his first (legitimate) onscreen loss to Yuya at the end of the series more meaningful had he been the one to defeat Zarc.
I would of changed Yuri vs Yuzu to a four turn duel that we get to see (yuzu gets the first turn and pulls of a pendulum summon but gets this terrifying aura from Yuri (I am thinking a zarc hint to which she sees the darkness triggering an adrenaline response) which causes her to panic end her turn and run to get an action card Yuri holds back for the second turn pretty much just summoning 1 monster setting 1 and attacking (I am thinking we add a plant monster that can attack multiple cards by revealing plant(3 cards revealed means 3 attacks) monsters in there hand and if it battles a monster with higher attack/def they still take battle damage and then the monster is destroyed (basically Yuri is taking a little bit of damage to erase yuzu's field just playing with her like a toy) removing all cards on yuzus field and taking 500 damage before ending there turn Turn 3 Yuzu draws and then plays an action card she grabbed (I am thinking adding a new action card called miracle draw(or creating a melodious draw spell that works by banishing the same amount as that of melodious monsters face up in the extra deck then drawing the same amount of cards) before assembling the most perfect field her deck could ever conceive giving her confidence before ending her turn after several direct attacks at yuri which Yuri is unphased by Turn four begins and Yuri draws polymerization and immediately summons starving venom before adding more cards to her field with more monsters and using starving venoms effect begins taking her time attacking mostly chasing and savouring the feeling of dread Yuzu is experiencing before we get to what we originally saw
A bit of a minor one for me, but Mizar vs Kite's duel on the moon. Kite ended up dying and giving Numeron Dragon over to deliver anyway, so why not have it to where it was Kite's determination and dedication even facing defeat that converts Mizar over to help (kinda like it did in show). It also would have made the fact that Don Thousand wiped Mizar so easily all the more threatening.
5Ds: I would change the result of a Yusei vs Jack duel, but not the first. I'd actually change the result of their final duel. This just seemed like the perfect time for Jack to finally surpass Yusei, and it also would have been a nice way to bring the series full circle (as the only time we saw Yusei officially lose was against Jack in a flashback, way back at the beginning of the series). After all of Jack's growth throughout the series, and the insane level of preparation he did for this duel... it just felt like it would have been truly earnt. Yusei beating Jack again despite how much Jack has changed for the better since their previous duel just isn't all that interesting or compelling, and I think Yusei finally being surpassed by someone would have been a good ending for both his character and 5Ds as a whole. I never really thought about Antinomy v Yusei R1 as a potential loss for Yusei, but yes there's not much of a reason for him not to lose here. I also thought that he should have lost to Ghost in the first duel of the Yliaster arc, because man did I have a really hard time believing Yusei was so terrified of the 'Synchro Killers' when he'd already beaten one by cheesing out Majestic Star Dragon. He was almost as terrified by it initially as he was by the Earthbound Gods which he actually nearly *died* to, how does that make sense?! Arc-V: The trouble with giving Dennis a loss against Yuzu is that his dueling record in Arc-V is absolutely abysmal. This is his only win against a major character in the entire length of the show, so it'd be pretty harsh to take that away from him given that would make his record even worse than Sawatari's! And there's not really anywhere else you realistically give Dennis a W, in my opinion. As much as I'd love to see Yuzu get more wins, I have to disagree with that one. Well, I think it's more accurate to say that I'd like to have seen Yuzu get more duels instead of becoming a literal plot device devoid of any character after her duel against Sergey. Also special mention to Yugo vs Yuri where I probably wouldn't change the result but heck if this wasn't the duel with the MOST build-up in Arc-V and the way it was handled was just laughable. I'd instead entirely rewrite the circumstances of how it happens (keeping Edo and Kaito very, very far away from it) and how it plays out. But then I suppose that applies to pretty much all of the final third of Arc-V, I suppose.
The last duel between Jack and Yusei should have been a draw (much like the graduation match between Zane and Jaden). That would have made perfect sense to conclude 5d's like that.
So much of Arc-V come 3rd season needs changed, since the plot was just totally flawed to start with, and the duels showed that. The luck fiesta that was Yugo versus Serena at the end being the biggest showcase. The 3 different cards he had that were based entirely on dice rolls and/or specific cards being used in her grave, all of it because of the fact that they wrote themselves into a corner. The girls HAD to be captured, and the boys HAD to get close to each other and get frustrated and so on. Leo's plot of stopping Zarc from coming together by taking the girls and isolating Yuri was what set off Zarc's return in the first place, even though they prop him as being smart enough to see that. If the plot was revolved around getting the boys captured by some sort of cult of Zarc, everything would have made way more sense in the long run, and duels wouldn't be shoehorned for egao or otherwise. They even had the Doctor, who could have easily been the head of it all who influenced Zarc out of Yuri, especially with his parasites able to manipulate people with such a despair inducing mind control. He even ACTED like a total creep, one who shouldn't even be allowed near a school. I would have made the final duel against him, and have the girls and the rest of the Arc-V cast working together to beat Zarc, to show that Yuya's message of smiles was passed on, because having everything be re-combined and all the boys and girls forced into the same body just missed the mark of everyone deserving smiles. If Zarc was defeated by everyone surrounding Yuya, you could even keep the gauntlet the faced at the end, as they coax him back after being pushed into such a deep pit, alongside all the other Yu-boys. Solving the plot issue would just fix so many of the duels, and give more meaning to season 3, it was just so frustrating.
not to mention the yuri vs yuya duel. the end result with zarc being made ANYWAY basicly ment that yuya would have lost to yuri and it would change nothing. just have yuya has the physical body still despite the loss and boom
@@saiyanscaris6530 honestly it should have been the boys being hunted all along, not the girls. The whole of the plot would have made way more sense if they just swapped that.
Yusei actually lost a duel against dark signer kalin, he fell off his duel runner, and if he didn’t he would have lost either way. He would have lost due to hundred eyes Dragon’s attack
Honestly I think Yuya’s arc should have been him becoming more disenfranchised with his own philosophy, ironically becoming like those he dueled and preached at. Would have been much better to see him have to deal with high stakes where no one wins (killing someone else because you win can’t feel good) and then have to rediscover his own love of the game and his entertaining style would have been much better. Also have more berserk moments leading up to the conclusion of the arc with Zarc.
@@lordabizi5807 oh, yeah, I guess so. Wondered why that seemed familiar. I do wish we could have seen something more from Yuya though, he seemed a little flat.
13:00 But they make it clear that Yuto, Yugo and Yuri are still alive within Yuya just like Ruri, Rin and Serena are within Yuzu. That's why he is smiling in the end. It's not like they were gone completly. And it's Yu gi oh people, if Atem was able to have his own body to duel Yugi and if we can devided one soul into 4, then giving back Yuto, Yugo, Yuri, Rin, Serena and Ruri's body is completly possible
@ULGROTHA It is maybe to cherry (It is the philosophy of the show: You need to smile when things get you down... still doesn't make good writting, I agree🤔) but still, if you knew you could still speak to your best friend and sister throught someone else, would you leave that person behind? If you really want Shun to go the realistic way, they should have also completly assumed that Yuto and Ruri were really gone for good. Now that I think about it, the thing I would have change in the duel between Yuya and Shun is the implication of Yuto in it: Litteraly having him take over Yuya during the duel to speak to Shun (Because it doesn't make sence to me how Shun was able to sence Yuto's presence during the canon duel)
Oh yes. Here's my #1. Joey Vs. Marik, the REAL fight. To me, this was an absolute joke of an ending to any duel in all of Yugioh. Not only would it have proven just how talented he'd become since Duelist Kingdom, but also allowed us to finally see both he and Yugi duel in the finals. And I know what some are thinking. Marik was the big bad, Yugi had to beat him. But how cool of a twist would it have been if Joey beat him protecting his friend? It would have also been an interesting twist on the defeat of a main villain. Not only that, but we may have gotten to see him use Ra. I know there's the whole rule about only those with ancestors from the ancient past could read Ra's inscription, but whose to say he didn't have any? Marik stated many onboard the blimp had ties to ancient Egypt, could have been the same for him. And Joey's not dumb, he would have found ways to uniquely use Ra's abilities, no doubt. Ugh...The majority of the fight was awesome, especially seeing Marik's frightened face when Joey summoned his last monster. But the fact they could make him yell "Attack!" before collapsing was just awful.
Joey can't used Ra. It is a big plot point that only certain can use the gods and you need a chant to even use Ra. And we know Joey has no ties to Egypt.
The thing is: even though Joey losing was 100% because the plot demanded it and he did theoretically beat Marik, he shouldn't have got that far in the finals tournament to begin with given that he realistically lost handily to Odion, only being spared defeat by aforementioned plot demands (Marik ordered Odion to stop his attack for game in favour of using Ra, in order to try and keep his true identity secret).
Dan Costello that and if I’m honest, that Joey v Marik duel would be completely different if Marik didn’t have egyptian magic on his side. That’s the most common thing I hear though. That if Marik didn’t have access to the Millennium Rod, he’d lose to Joey.
@@agoodname6997 legit though Marik was actually a trash duelist throughout the series (except for the final where he had a semi-competent strategy); Mai literally had game with her 3 Harpies but she tried to flex and attempted to summon Ra, and Joey only lost his match due to the Shadow Game induced by the Rod. Even Odion was a more formidable an opponent, as shown when he backed Joey into a corner, and won 12 locator cards (or 10, assuming he and Marik started with 1 each) on the last day of Battle City.
@@dancostello4872 Mai giving Marik a good duel is an adaptational upgrade for the anime. In the manga, Marik stomped Mai and her one chance for victory was to use Ra.
I would've had Axel beat the Supreme King instead of draw with him it would have put Axel Brody's character over the top and it would increase his stock immensely. I see why they had them draw but Axel winning would have made him the best protagonist behind Jaden and Zane Truesdale
How would he make it to Team Ragnarok then? Would you allow another member of Team 5Ds to deliver the final blow? That'd be cool. I like Yusei defeating Jack in S1. If Jack was to get his revenge at some point it should come later on.
@@drearydoll9430 Why would he give it back if he had won? He reviewed the duel with Goodwin and co. and since he felt defeated it affected his pride. Only way Yusei is getting it back in this situation is if Jack considers it trash, which would be unlikely.
Only One from GX?!? In season 1 i would make this changes: Jaden vs Misawa. Make Misawa Wins THEN Chazz beats Misawa when he comes back And then we have this interesting rock paper scissors situation where we can have Jaden beat Chazz, Chazz Misawa and Misawa Jaden, woul be a very interesting dynamic
I really agree with you when it comes to Vector. Bcs he really tricked Yuma and that betrayal really threw him off the rail so he became Dark Yuma and after all the effort Vector went through to do that he should've won. Also I agree with Bastion winning against Tanya and I would totally erase the whole "Bastion has a crush on Tanya" thing cus it totally ruined his character and he was quite badass and capable in the first season.
The Sargaso thing it's tricky to cuz I've always seen it as it collapsing due to you know vector stoping so that he didn't die but I feel like he would have let Yuma die if it all came down to
There is at least a dozen duels where I feel female characters get robbed and especially characters like Mai Valentine and Blue Angel suffered heavily from barely getting any meaningful wins
Antinomy should've defeated Yusei in their first duel. It would've set up Antinomy as a capable duelist and gives him a win and it gives Yusei more motivation to surpass his limits.
Yes, it sets up Accel Synchro as a necessary goal for Yusei to overcome anti-synchro duelists.
Agreed. It still annoys me that Yusei won a duel that was meant to show him he still had to improve.
@@CyberKingSAL yeah I get what you're coming from but it's one of those kind of things as you say has barely lost his entire series so we just make him lose out right because you know plot then it kind of doesn't have a good taste in people's mouths most people would get upset and stopped watching it and then you have a lot of people who was still watching you feel like you care to gross it would divide people
Debatable
Tbf it was greatly implied that Antinomy was going easy on Yusei to begin with
"Joey should've beaten Zigfried because then we'd see a duel with him and Kaiba"!
...What? Kaiba wasn't entered in the tournament, he only interfered to disqualify Zigfried for all the problems he caused during the tournament. He didn't know Leon was related to Zigfried so as far as he's concerned once Joey wins the duel that's that and he doesn't need to step in. Even if Kaiba knew what a basic background check was how does knowing Leon and Zigfried are brothers lead into Joey Vs. Kaiba instead of Leon Vs. Kaiba?
Lol what if kaiba either a) said that Joey wasn’t worthy of entering the finals and entered himself to disqualify him personally, or b) said that Joey had improved sufficiently and that kaiba wanted to show that he was still the superior duelist
It would have been Leon vs Zigfriend before Leon faced Atem. However, Kaiba disqualified Zigfried which lead to that duel. Kaiba wasnt even taking part in the tournament itself. So if Joey won (which he should have) would have just resulted in Joey vs Leon. Which wouldnt have lead to a rematch between Joey vs Kaiba.
@@debreas6207 I know, that's what I was pointing out in regards to that section of the video.
@@mikeike9742 sorry I misread. think I was reading another comment from others. My apologies
@@sungod9797 Thats pretty unlikely since by the time season 5 comes around. Kaiba isn't really concerned with the gang as much as he was during battle city since he had to interact with them 24/7. Kaiba's main concern was fixing his companies' reputation. Even in the beginning of the arc Kaiba messes with Joey and is like "Mokuba make sure Wheeler's late" I personally think that by season 5 Kaiba sees them a little more as friends. Plus at the end of the season Kaiba hooks them up with a first class jet back home
I have to disagree about Yusei vs Jack round 1, because that duel was the first important character development for Jack. Up to that point Jack's head was the size of Mt.Everest where he believed himself invincible and constantly bragged about everyone being worse, getting that first real loss in years made him question things for the first time which pushed him to give Yusei the Stardust so they could have a proper rematch.
He could've won, but still have realized that Yusei was real close to actually beating him with that facedown card he didn't get to use.
Wow ! That's exactly what I was about to comment
@@TheGloryXros Or Jack would realize that a major reason he won was because he had Stardust Dragon while Yusei did not.
i 100% agree
Now I can't get the image of Jack's head as a carving in Mt. Everest out of my head... I agree with you, though.
Chazz Vs Jaden when he was duelling for north academy
I wonder where is Jesse at that time
@@serpihanrengginang199 it was a miss translation at the time it wasn't actually north academy it was duel academy's sister school
@@jaceprince5385 ahh i see
Chazz vs Jaden during Season 4
@@dancostello4872 Yeah this one
Definetly agree on the Yusei vs Antinomy duel ; however for the Jack vs Yusei I have to disagree : it's Jack's loss that makes him look back on all the sacrifices he has done to become King, and now he's not sure if he's worthy to be king, if Goodwin shouldn't have picked Yusei instead (which he says before the second duel). His loss against Yusei gives him self doubt and is the start of Jack's development
It also leads into Yusei's 2nd win. Jack was trying to prove himself as a king, so he set everything up to be the same as their first duel. Yusei knew that and used it against Jack.
100% agree with you. You put EXACTLY what I was thinking into words.
Yeah they did the right choice to make it technically a draw
I think the WRGP was the perfect place to give Yusei a couple of losses. If he, Jack, and Crow had rotated their positions every once in a while, we could have seen Yusei's points hit 0 against Team Unicorn or Team Taiyo, only to have Jack or Crow follow him up and bring home the win for the group. Team 5D's had plot armor in that tournament, but it was a missed opportunity to give the other guys the spotlight, and show that Yusei isn't completely unbeatable.
if you think that's bad, just look at the WRGP in World championship 2011
at one point your told your the 2nd person in the dueling line, but if you lose, your team loses
Nah why are you guys trying to hurt his portrayal? Yusei already lost a duel it was against Kiryu...
@@KurokamiNajimihe didn‘t officially lose it was a no contest.
@@Hoffanheim Only western fans think like that the story says he lost he had no counter to Kiryu’s attack and he had a whole character arc revolving around finding his resolve again. The reason they didn’t let his life points hit 0 is because he would have died. If we’re counting only “canon” duels then he’s tied with Atem having only 1 lose. Yugi has never legitimately been defeated but that’s only because he didn’t duel that much. Yusaku imo having 3 draws is worse than 1 loss, 2 draws I say is equal to 1 loss
I think the main takeaway from this is that Yu-gi-oh has to be very careful with introducing “you lose and you die” type stakes to arcs because that immediately sets a precedent that the main character cannot lose unless there is some plot BS to get them out of the consequences. The writers need to plan the whole story out so the stakes remain high and there is some mystery as to what happens, because a plot where the protagonist absolutely cannot lose a duel gets boring really fast, and a BS get of jail free card for the MC avoiding the consequences can really diminish the audience’s immersion in the plot.
that or at least establish duels that "doens't matter who wins, the story can continue", like the final yuri versus yuya duel. at the end, it really doesn't matter who wins because zarc gets completed. you cna even have that yuri winds, but yuya is the main body of zarc
Ian R. Nava Huber Right. It’s all about managing the circumstances so that you haven’t written yourself into the corner.
Yeah. To me there were always 2 types of duels: Serious duels and casual duels. Serious duels are the ones where the stakes are so high you already know the outcome. Casual duels are the ones where there can be stakes but where losing is actually a possibility.
@@MrMarinus18 honestly yugioh probably should not be as dark of a show considering how things went with arc v and vrains. arc v ...had the worst story of the bunch and had stuff like yuri vs yuya have the hero win only for the hero to become the main final villain. like yuri may as well have won there. as for vrains...when you make a character that has never losted not even in the way yusei almost lost to dark signer kalin round one....yeah it got to the point where it just became predictable. as dillian mentions with the bohman thing. yusaku drawed or won against him in a span of 3 rounds. and bohman was the final boss of season 2 and yusaku was the only one left standing. we all knew he was gonna win. also yusaku should have had more duels in season 3. instead he had....one duel and it was the final duel of the series. with revolver and soulburner still alive. they could have dueled ai first but no. heck ai even spares blue maiden so she could have teamed up with the others.
It is not about a Yugioh show being primarily dark or light, it is about making convincing stakes. If you make them too high constantly like Vrains, everything just becomes predictable. Like duels being to the death or losing their Ignis. Since Playmaker and Soulburner need to drive their plot, they have practically perfect records while their side characters are just bullied on (Go, Aoi, Ghost Girl, Blood Shepherd) to make the villain look tough.
I am glad stuff like Yugi vs Raphael, Jaden vs Aster or most of Yuma's duels happen. Catch us off guard every now and then.
I know of a cooking anime which tends to suffer from "He has to win or he is expelled from the school" which makes the enjoyment rather limited as you know how it ends. Or side characters only ever losing to make things tense.
Here's my contribution to the list that probably many people don't consider: Aki vs. Team Pegasus in 5Ds
In the series, after Jack gets absolutely crushed, Aki (in her first riding duel match) summons both Stardust and Black Rose but ultimately loses, passing on Stardust to Yusei in the process. Yusei then proceeds to solo Team Pegasus through the power of protagonists and one of the biggest, dumbest instances of luck I've ever seen.
Aki as a character basically got partially written out of 5Ds once Crow entered the picture. After the the match versus Team Pegasus I don't believe Aki duels a single time outside of the one versus Sherry where Aki and Crow team up. Aki also only had one signature win in the series (Misty). While her arc was a lot more character-driven and emotional as she tried to come to terms with herself, her family, and her place in society versus your more typical action-y female protagonist, I think having her get one more win would've been great for her, particularly with her winning with Stardust and Black Rose together to cement the bonds she's formed and showcase her growth thanks to Yusei. She still needs to lose so Yusei can do his thing, but her beating the first Pegasus member would've allowed her to come into her own as a duelist and character while also allowing the end of the duel to end better, where Yusei's win isn't decided by him baiting his opponent into being an absolute moron.
Yugioh tends to treat their girls alot worse than the guys, which is why there are petitions for a female yugioh protag
You've earned my like. Wish I could like this 10 times. There was no reason to give Yusei 3 wins back to back like that to make him that overpowered compared to the others. Jack should have loss, Aki should have won, tied with Breo and Yusei finishes off the last guy Jean.
I really think the WRGP was the perfect structure to give Yusei some losses. If he was in the first or second spot on his team, he could have taken a couple losses and passed the baton to Jack, Aki, or Crow, who can show their skills in a higher-stakes environment than supporting characters usually get.
Team Pegasus was my favourite duel in 5ds just because of this. They had a legitimate strategy, cased their opponents before the duel and fought as a complete unit. I think it's a mark of how good the writing of a duel is if the writers can't think of an ending which isn't at least a little disappointing. At least it wasn't a fabled "Destiny draw" where Yusei's final draw wins the game. I was actually worried when I heard Team Catastrophe say that Pegasus weren't anything special because I thought that if 5ds struggled this much against Pegasus, how were they going to win against them?
With regards to Crow and Aki, wasn't that due to an executive decision because of how popular Blackwings were at the time? I remember seeing Dylan's video on how Crow was meant to be the Dark Signer boss initially, but it was changed because Blackwings were so popular and were deemed to need more screentime. Sucks but money talks.
@@noahduffin5492 Honestly I think the way it ended is worse than a "Destiny Draw." Because they were such a complete unit, the fact that Jean literally decided to throw the duel because Yusei essentially baited him into attacking cheapens the entire match. Yes the match was about helping Jean reclaim his love of dueling or whatever, but this is a tournament. You can reclaim your love of dueling/beating your opponent and still win by not attacking like any sane duelist does.
I'd also argue that having Yusei solo the entire team reduced the stakes and made Team Catastrophe less threatening. Even if Jack/Crow/Aki are next to useless, why does it matter when Yusei can just break his back carrying everyone? Narratively speaking, it would have been so much better to have Aki win one before Yusei taking over or even Yusei trying to solo everyone but coming up short to drive home the lesson of being able to rely/trust others. The latter could've set up an awesome rematch later in the tournament before Team 5Ds moved on to face Ragnarok.
Freaking Team Unicorn outcome was a joke, and there are two ways it could have been changed to make it way better (and no this isn't about just the WAY Yusei won)
1. Yusei should lose to Jean. There are no real stakes at this point, you can lose one round and still be in the tournament, so 5Ds losing here wouldn't stop them. In addition, it'd be a great learning experience for the gang. It's mentioned multiple times that Unicorn are experts at working as a team, while 5Ds has very little idea what they're doing in a format they have no experience in. Losing to a team that actually works as a team would show them they need to step it up and work together properly
2. Just let Aki beat Andre. If you REALLY want 5Ds to win, at least don't do the stupid "Yusei beats the whole team" thing. Seriously, it's Aki's ONLY duel in the tournament, and she gets one cool moment with summoning Stardust which is immediately torn down and she gets destroyed. Give her ONE win here guys come on...
This...
I literally came into the comments to write this and I couldn't have said it better myself.
It would reiterate Crow's point when he was telling Aki that none of them could possibly be ready for this kind of tournament.
The thing was she couldn't be in the series cause her actress went on maternity leave
I wonder if Aki losing was the excuse they gave so that Crow could be brought to the forefornt
Yusei losing to Jean also makes him look a little less invincible and that he needs his team. With that duel Yusei won the entire thing pretty much on his own which makes his team look a little redundant, especially Aki.
It also would have really upped the stakes with team Catastrophe since they would have robbed team 5DS of the rematch they wanted.
100% agree.
Shun vs Yuya: Shun because he needed to be alone to rethink his life.
Yuya is a clown
Not a very good reason
Sora Bell I mean he shouldn’t have to have the whole “egao” down his throat. And let him decide what to do with his life...
Take this from someone who actually loves Yuya as a character, but hated the way he was executed.
I'd be okay with Shun winning, but not with him disappearing completely afterwards. I don't know, maybe as he's about to leave Heartland he catches Yuya's duel with Reiji and can feel Yuto's energy coming Yuya (Don't ask how, he just can) and decides to watch, therefore seeing Yuzu's revival and giving him hope that Ruri is still alive in some way. I don't know, I feel like it'd give him better closure somehow and leave his story on a bittersweet but hopeful note.
The real problem with GX is that everyone not named Jaden needed to pull their weight a lot more. It makes no sense that he has to duel and defeat almost all of the Shadow Riders single-handedly. E-Heroes are cool, but they don't need to be cool at the expense of the entire supporting cast!
Yeah. I like the shadow riders were a serious threat that could defeat our favs, but Judai didn't need to be the team solo winner:either have other people fix the other messes or keep some of their losses but let them have some wins
Honestly, some of if really is just a pacingissue. A great example is that in my eyes, Syrus and Chazz should have dueled at least once each in the other world-arc. One to give him material as the good duelist he is and the other one, so that he actually does something besides randomly playing the wandering sage-archtype for no reason.
However, they literally couldn't, even if they wanted to. Because they already wasted half the season on some other storyarcs that didn't need to be as long as they were and thus the plot had to rush itself to the finishline.
@@lpfan4491 This is why I don't get the people who love GX's third and fourth season so much. At that point they'd introduced so many side characters that old ones got shafted and basically just became cheerleaders. We're also supposed to still believe Chazz, Alexis, and Syrus are all strong and relevant duelists by season 4 after they all barely got any good duels anymore?
@@limonbattery It's a big blow to S3 for sure, but I still love it because I think the plot is good, the new characters are well done and even tho they got shafted, I think Chazz and Syrus still look decent on the character-side of things. Besides that it actually makes me care for Zane after he pulled a lot of edgy nonsense in S1 and especially 2.
If I had the choice, I'd personally just extend the season to get in everything it misses out on, but if I had to cut down on something, I would really be the existing first half because it barely even play to the season's strenghs the way it is.
The worst part is the e heroes get thrown into the side for the neo spacians
Shun was just such a wasted character.... not as much as Yuto, though :))))
Yugo was at least kinda funny.
XYZ users in Arc-V were always trash. I liked Shun's conviction, and the theme was cool, but he gets flexed on so much it's hilarious. And to think that his archetype has its own Towers! XD
@@milesstorzillo1039 certainly
Agreed. A shame to really, because when he summons Revolution Falcon it is one of the best things ever
He had the worst ending and was pretty interesting up until Synchro.
I would at least give Chazz one win against Jaden.
It’s called the manga and it was surprisingly glorious.
if you wanna see chazz winning just see the manga it compensate a bit for chazz
He technically does in season 4 but they force him to throw
Chazz was straight up a better duelist than Jaden in the manga, he only lost once because he didn't use his ace card (which is like Yugi not using DM)
@@haxmode6935 yeah a better duelist and a less douche or something on that line.
I haven't started the video but I know Sawatari should have won against Zarc
It would have been hilarious.
I want to live in a world where screwball stuff like that becomes an actual end result.
I think if we say he should have gotten a draw instead of straight up winning, it would have been something that could have actually happened and it would reflect positively on his character.
Yes I completely agree!
Agree 100%
But no, Zarc HAD to pull a card out of his ass to beat everyone
Idk about Yusei losing to Jack, I think its important that Jack almost loses that duel, so his character development can start with him realizing that Yusei out played him and he isn't all that, but I totally understand the aspect of Yusei actually losing.
They did do Joey dirty with him vs Zigfried. That was Joey’s last on screen duel in classic, and he lost to...that guy. And it was shown as, he just got unlucky with compensation mediation. His luck failed him in his last duel, still feels wrong for things to go that way after all his development
Exactly! I mean! Look at Joey's Duels from Battle City, Virtual World, and FInal Duels in Marik Arc, and the Orichalcos Arc! He had Gotten Significantly Better as a Duelist! Sure, Joey had some moments of silly in the duels, but no matter how much his opponents cheated (or how much they rigged the game) he always came out on top! Joey's duels always fascinated me due to the fact that he had to outsmart his enemies and even use "Luck" Cards (Coin flips, Dice, Roulette wheels) to really screw over his opponents since they can't Just cancel the Card Effects of activations since their Effectiveness had to be gambled!
It pissed me off the Zeigfried had access to SUPER Messed up cards that Locked Out the Game, or were completely illegal to use. Golden Castle was made by Zeigfried to Screw the Kaiba Corp System! Kaiba should've allowed Joey to Re-duel Zeigfried! Just so we can See Joey pull off a Win, as I would've loved to see how Joey could actually win. Hell, I would vouched for Kaiba to out and out cancel the Duel Between the two during their first match since he KNOWS Zeigfried was cheating!
I'm really resonating with the Aoi vs Soulburner change. Aoi needed some kind of win. She was hyped up at the very start to be one of the best duelists in the VRAINS, and yet all we really see is her losing.
Her "big wins" were against Baira and Haru, two characters who got one full duel each and had no meaningful legacy. Hell, Baira goes on to be cannon fodder later. It got to the point by the end where I expected losses from her well before duels even got seriously started. Whereas the opposite was true for Soulburner. He, by contrast, felt like the most invincible "best friend" character I could remember. Hell, I half expected him to beat Bohman only for Lightning to return as the final boss. You talk about Soulburner vs Revolver as a big upset, but I was completely unsurprised. Maybe a loss or draw to Aoi could fix both problems in my mind. Giving some legitimacy to Aoi as a duelist while adding some amount of vulnerability to Soulburner.
A DRAW would have been fine enough.
Also, giving Haru extra moments , like say, haru challening soulrbuern to a duel offscreen while bowman and yusaku have their second duel, only for it turn out that haru was beating soulburner offscreen and only reason soulburner didn't lose was because bowman was defeated before haru's and soulburner's duel ended.
that way you give soulburner some defeat, and establish haru as someone competent
@@ianr.navahuber2195 That's a good one. Haru leaving, looking for Bohman like Kaito did for Haruto, for example.
If Aoi had beaten Soulburner, he would have lost Flame. Just FYI.
@@CaptainRed1000 i pointed out in other comment how they can work around that one
@@CaptainRed1000 Draw, then. It's a valid result. Or have circumstances conspire to prevent Flame's retrieval. Revolver was supposed to be "allowed" to destroy Windy, but he escaped.
Syrus and Hassleberry had no reason to lose to frost and thunder
I think the only reason the writers made it that way was too make the Light Brigade seem like an actual threat. Because for the most part the only one of them who was actually pretty strong was T-Bone. And sadly we don't see Blaze duel
Especially since Frost and Thunder don't duel again after that. Why build them up if Sarina is just gonna card them the next episode?
@@Sniffyy They had a name!? (Ligjt Brigade)
@@promisnwekenta9703 Yeah Frost says that they're the light brigade in their duel against hassleberry and cyrus
Monarchs are bs though
Chazz should've beaten Jaden only once he returned to DA from his North Academy escapade.
Yuri should've beaten Yuya to form Zarc regardless, and Yuya could've lost while fighting for egao.
Blue Angel could've beaten Spectre. It was ok with him winning though.
Yugi sould've beaten Rebecca; I don't think his reason for surrendering is nearly as compelling as their grandpas'
Yeah and the duel with his brother could still work, the brothers were going to destroy the school (pretty sure it has been some time since I last saw GX), just make chazz chazz it up for the school and defend it. Also I wish that we had two more duels in GX one last Zane vs Jaden duel and one more bastion duel( even if he loses)
Edit two more duel from Gx that maybe changing the result would've been better, is Satorius vs Aster (it would've been coll to make it two v 1 and make aster fo the last blow) and syrus vs Zane (make it a draw, I fell that would've been great for Zane, because for me he helping in season 3 felt forced considering how the character was, with this I fell that it would show some light to Zane, and make syrus better
@@ravinercf the yuri vs yuya one im surprised wasnt mention. cause zarc was made regardless. yuris plan was to become one to become zarc. to which he did despite losing.
@@saiyanscaris6530 true, just haven't mentioned because I disliked arc V
I loved Yuya vs Yuri as it is because even though Yuya won, he “lost” by giving in to Zarc (& that Reiji told him to focus on winning). It’s kinda like a Batman vs Joker fight where Joker gets the last laugh.
@@thatman666 This sounds uncharacteristically simplified from Reiji's perspective when he's normally quite good at reading a situation. The action would be more fitting if he were to say, betray the lancers and try to conquer all dimensions alongside his father. Ridicule World was a last laugh and it doesn't dispell Yuri as an antag or destroy Yuya's credibility as a protag. The fact that this duel ended this way because they couldn't give the "protag" a late game loss is to me a sorry excuse for writing.
17:30 Even if people argue "but if Aoi beats Soulburner she would take Flame with her and give it to SOL tech" well, You can just have her not to, that, in exchange of giving Flame back to Soulburner, she (and Ghost Girl) will just tag along with them and learn what that anomaly is about. that they are separate from SOL and just want info.
that way she gets a little more involved with the Ignis stuff, meeting Windy, maybe even Bowman earlier. And she would have an even bigger shock when seeing Earth's vivisection. because she would realize she could have gotten Flame Killed
ULGROTHA In all fairness to the writers, after the amount of negatively received risks and backlash Arc V had, can you really blame them with being safe with Vrains? Although I agree I would’ve loved more shock results/risks, I don’t think they thought they could afford one in this Duel at the time of scripting the episode.
@@coop0812 im just not a big fan of yuya cause his dueltainment his pretty weak compare to others. Everytime i see his entertainment duel, his opponents seems more fun.
@@angusbeefyeung funny cause Yusaku duels put me to sleep it was so predictable I was getting irritated with him plus his character was just bland and boring Don't like him at all
@@antoniobolden8992 i would accept him if he didnt have such a brick wall personality and if characters didnt die every season. Everytime i watch a new vrain season, they keep dieing and coming back like nothing happened. Arc v did have that depth with the carding but how it was resolved was so lazy and it made me hate it even more. Hell the last duel of vrains felt like diet zexal.
Even though it would’ve changed the plot significantly, I would’ve had Leo obtain Life Stream Dragon and his signer mark during his duel with Devack so that Crow’s Black Winged Dragon never became a thing. I’m not against Crow being part of the main cast, I’m against Life Stream Dragon, the actual 5th signer dragon, getting completely forgotten about until damn near the end of the series.
Imagine being the 5th dragon of legend and then screwing around for half the series in a weaker form because you are lazy and some other dragon appeared to fill in for you.
Then again it did give Leo more relevance while crow just became a side character
It would have made sense, but Life Stream wouldn't have been very useful there. That, however, would show that the Signers shouldn't rely too much on their dragons.
technically unrelated but the Japanese VA for Luca (Luna) did a PHENOMENAL job along with the rest of the cast that whole episode but especially after Lua (Leo) collapses, those screams straight up haunt me.
There is a problem with your Joey wins against Ziegfried. Joey would have then progressed to duel Leon and then he would have had to lose to Leon to progress the story as it did. I wish Joey had more wins especially without using luck.
Ye Kaiba only got involved because of Siegfried
@@swordkingx4874 doesn't stem cheat tho
No, unless you count his goddess combo cheating.
Aside from messing with the rides and stuff he did nothing illegal in the duel.
Joey lost fair and square.
I just wish they would've gave Joey more Red-Eyes support like Red eyes fusion/Red eyes wyvern/darkness metal dragon/darkness dragon etc.. He would actually be considered a tier 1 duelist but instead they keep his deck super luck reliant.
@@swordkingx4874 doesn't his millennium item give him luck haxs
Arc v. Sora vs shun rematch. One of the worst duels I ever saw. Shun had to be dumb down super hard to lose.
Aki vs team pegusus. Let her win the first match and set up stardust dragon to allow her o show her skill. Then the hook team take her out for her combo with yusie.
Goodwin vs Goodwin. Let rex win but then end himself before his brother loses to allow both to battle.
Kaiba vs Yugi on roof. Kaiba winning without trying to end himself would have been better. Kaiba grows and uses all his heart to win to save mokuba.
Anyone vs yusaku. He was so plot heavy that I wish when ai left in between the middle of the story yusaku loses a duel and then ai comes back and he wins again. Would have helped his story better.
Yuto vs yugo. Let them have a real duel and then yuto wins but yugo disappears to the synchro duel after.
Marik vs Joey. Let marik absolutely destroy Joey in every way instead.
Yusie vs jack was fine. Yusaku sucks more with his plot armor.
Goodwin mirror match that's kinda what he did, he had Solemn Judgement, Mirror Force, and something else I don't remember set, Rudger says himself on seeing them Rex could've won had he used them, but Rex "needed to die to get the dark signer's power".
@@snowboundwhale6860 he chose to use cards that wouldn't give him a good deck so even if he did try his best he would brick
Also thinking about kiryu vs yusie. Aki vs misty is basically the same thing as both Aki and yusie go into comas after the duel
DM: Agree with your picks and don't have any to add off the top of my head
GX: Random, but Sho vs Kenzan. Both were wanting to be Judai's Bro and a draw here would've been hilarious for that "rivalry"
5Ds: Jack vs Carly, the only Dark Signer duel that felt like a Signer should've lost (not counting Crow since he wasn't a Signer against Bommer)
ZEXAL: Yuma vs Shark on the Hospital Rooftop after Mizael's debut duel. Shark winning here could've sent the message that the enemy isn't going to care if Yuma's is down and hurt, they'll attack with everything and he should be prepared at all times.
Arc-V: Shun vs Crow, then we would've gotten Yuya vs Shun in the Friendship Cup which could've planted the seeds towards Shun being less angsty later on.
VRAINS: Not really a duel result change, but have Akira duel Ai solo and lose, then Angry Aoi duel and beat Roboppi. That way the three heroes each get a big win at the end, Aoi over Roboppi, Soulburner over Revolver, and Playmaker over Ai.
The Shark duel wasn’t supposed send that message. That would only beat Yuma down more when he was already depressed.
Shun vs Crow was a duel that made Shun go down a lesser road for me. After this duel, Shun does not win a major duel on his own fairly. The duel also did Ultimate Falcon dirty as the first time the raidraptor boss monster is summoned, it gets beaten quickly.
Interesting that Jack vs carly one
Like if Jack lost he would turn evil, I fell that would change things a lot
Roboppi will destroy Aoi if they duel
I have noticed a pattern in the Yu-Gi-Oh Series' names. The name GX has 2 characters, 5DS has 3 characters, ZEAL (X is stylistic) has 4 characters, ARC-V has 5 characters and VRAINS has 6 characters. Sevens and Go Rush unfortunatelly broke this pattern.
"Duel Monsters"?
@@christopherb501 When Duel Monsters was created, there were no plans for sequels, also the original manga is just called YuGiOh, but the Duel Monsters anime is called that to diferrenciate it from YuGiOh Season 0, which is called just YuGiOh originally.
Shingo Sawatari vs LITERALLY EVERY OPPONENT he faced in a single duel.
I am serious Sawatari was a very useless character in ARC V. He always had to work together with others in order to get the win.
He lost to Yuya, Yuto, A FREAKING SECTOR SECURITY OFFICER, Yugo, Kaito, The Tyler Twins, Zarc (Even though it looked like he was almost able to defeat Zarc) and lastly Gongenzaka.
For me he was just a punching bag that gave out free wins.
What I would've done is write in a duel where he fights Yuri on his own (maybe someone else tag-duels and loses) and he pulls out a miraculous win. It gives him at least one amazing win, has him have dueled all the Yu- boys, unsettles Yuri to the point where he's more willing to assimilate with his counterparts into being Z-ARC again for the sake of being unbeatable and all-consuming, as opposed to just "grr! destroy! tee hee!"...seems like a nifty fit to me.
Sawatari is such a tragidy. He's a good character and a good duelist, but he always loses in the end because the writers thought that was an amazing idea.(It's really not)
I love how popular freakin *Sawatari* has become in ARC-V. It's almost unreal! XD
@@Archon3960 @T. Shingo got done so dirty. Dude really tried his best in his duels and he didn't even get a major win. It sucks he definitely should have shined more. His second duel against Yuya I feel would have been a good win for him. Not only that, he became such a nice character afterwards and a total bro through everything that happened. He absolutely deserved more. Seeing him have a crush on Serena in one of the endings was cute and with some development I think would have worked. It's too bad because I really liked his personality but he didn't even win one single duel.
1. Mai vs joey last duel: It wasn't a good ending for joey in that arc and I think a 3V1 duel against dartz would have been a better thing to see just like zexal trio's duel against Dr. Faker.
2. Edo vs manjoume: I know people will get angry with me but edo really didn't need to lose there to develop manjoume's character. Manjoume putting up a good fight against Edo but losing in the end would still be fine since edo was like the monster that defeated both kaiser and judai in season 2. Manjoume's honorable loss would be a better thing cuz I think Edo got humiliated by the writers.
3. Aki vs Andore: This was the perfect time to give aki a huge win and pass the baton to yusei after a couple of turns against breo. I mean Andore didn't had to beat them both right??
4. Yuma vs shark(the duel in the hospital after the mizael vs kaito duel) :It was a nice chance to give yuma a loss and a lesson from shark. Plus shark could have added a 2nd W against his archrival
5. Revolver vs Lightning : I think revolver should be the one to beat lightning. Lightning was one of the reasons why revolver suffered, that is why it was revolver 's right to beat him. The ending was kinda ridicolous too, first avoiding defeat using the same tactic that noah used against kaiba, then ending the duel with 1 LP was kinda confusing and unnecessary.
2. I'm not angry at all. I agree with you. A loss would have been better to show that there should be no easy road to the pro league.
Duuuude, Joey should've won against Marik, and everybody knows it.
Ye.
True, however - he should have lost to Odion.
CynicalApex True.
Or at least make it so it doesn't fell like Bullshit that Joe lost
@@ravinercf yes, you're right! I think they should have made like they did with May. You know, buffing Marik so we could actually believe Joey was the real loser
I’m not sure when, but I would have loved to see sector security win against someone at some point. Even as a child, it was hard for me to suspend my disbelief and see these goobers as anything resembling a threat. Maybe, maybe against Crow the first time, use the excuse that he hasn’t dueled in a while since he’s stealing cards anyway but he gets away with his surprise flying duel runner in the end anyway, anything. Sector security never felt like a threat, so a win might have helped them actually feel like less of time-wasting doofuses
Some corrections: Kaiba didn't actually lose against Noah he was just frozen in stone and Yugi continued from where he left off. And Kaiba wouldn't have dueled Joey in the Grand Championships because the only reason he dueled Zigfried was because Zigfried did some shady stuff behind the scenes.
GX has a lot of duels where jaden wins just to make him cooler than he actually is so I’d change a fuck lot of those. I have way more issues with jadens win record than yusei
Well a lot of Jaden's duels aren't even of any story relevance and are mostly duel of the week. Those could just be cut out entirely and nothing would be lost from the narrative.
@@numberhunter62 This is true. A common theme with GX is that they have one duel per episode rather than one duel split into 3 or 4 parts. This why Jaden's record is so crazy because he has way too many duels/wins against random one off side characters that just pop up for the sake of the episode and half of his wins are during filler episodes.
@@Sniffyy in my eyes they should've giving some of those duels to other characters, mostly bastion, alexis and Syrus
@@ravinercf I agree. Most filler was just "Win or the dorm gets destroyed". It didn't have to be just Jaden defending it. Take Crowler vs Bonaparte for instance so rotating between the characters for fun. Alexis got most of her victories from filler so a few more would been fine. Bastion, Hasselberry and Syrus just deserved to duel more in general.
@@sirkillalot9892 one good example for Alexis would be the dual against that tênis guy
1:53 the "this duel should have happened instead" could very well be its own top.
Some suggestions:
from VRAINS: Final Roboppy duel be versus Aoi
From ARC-V:
Have the Bracelet Girls and the Yu-Boys fight in a sort of "mental-plane" duel ALL while Ray and Zarc and having the duel in the real world. Both using combination of cards of their counterparts decks (Example, Zarc using a Pendulum Supreme King Servant The Phantom Knights, or Supreme King Servant Speedroid; and Ray using say Lunalight and Melodius monsters with the "En" word in them)
Yes facts facts
also yuya vs yuzu when she was controled by parasite fusioner. like she was the only one of the 4 in that phase to not duel at all
Roboppy almost beat Soulburner clean. And Aoi couldn't even beat Soulburner. So you already know who gonna win
I would have Kalin vs Yusei in Crash Town end in a draw. Mostly because Yusei won and he still went to mines, but in a way of draw,Lawton would be like "since they lost sent them both there"or something. Not like plot would change
Yeah, but to be honest I would have liked to have seen crash town be a longer arc in general, maybe between an arc or something. Yusei vs Kalon to draw would have been way better. I know they were trying to make Lawton seem more intimidating, but you can achieve the same th8ng with just him beating Radley.
Good 1👍
"Yusei never lost a duel"
Uh, he lost against my boi Kiryu during the start of the Dark Signer Arc
Yeah. People say that while claiming that Malik beat Jounouchi. That duel was also technically a no result. No one lost, but everyone sais Malik beat Jounouchi anyways.
@@laranjamecanica9588marik won, cz joey wasnt able to continue dueling anymore and could still continue
The 1st Jack vs Yusei was a totally incomplete duel, Yusei didn't have his dragon, it got interrupted, and it ended with no conclusion. All of it was corrected in the rematch at the finals. But it was great to see some of same strategies used in both duels, and how each character prepared countermeasures for the rematch.
the ones coming to my mind:
1. Judai vs Alexis (season 1): I just feel like this would have been a good time for Judai to suffer his 1st on-screen lose. Alexis would most likely still keep what happened between them, and not tell a soul. Judai, with his happy-go-lucky personality, wouldn't care about his lose and this would also be a good opportunity to show the difference in skills. Alexis could've just told Zane afterwards that she saw great potential in Judai, which would make Zane curious and those 2 would still duel.
2. Aoi vs Spectre: I just felt like this duel would've been a good opportunity for Aoi to win. The end result would still be the same, Yuya would still face Revolver in the end. All it would do was that it would either give Revolver an extra duel OR Aoi would just be a bystander and watch the final season 1 duel.
Spectre is a Lost child and he needs to confront Yusaku, Aoi losing to Spectre back then is fine but I do wish the show give her a rematch with him.
@@matts5164 I alternatively wish Aoi have had the final duel versus robopy.
I mena, soulburner was gonna eventually have his duel with revolver anyways, so why not just let aoi, who has the biggest reasons and parallels to roboppy, be the one to fight roboppy instead.
Eh. I agree more with Dylan's choice here. For Spectre, his whole gimmick is that he gets into his opponents head, he's not a strong duelist, even according to Lightning. He even confused Playmaker for a while and fucked with Lightning. It was good to show that. But no matter what, she certainly would've needed another win in some way.
But the idea of Spectre beating Aoi was to help make the villains more threatening. Otherwise it would be just Revolver doing stuff.
Jaiden doesn't take losses well remember when he lost to edo phoenix he did not take it very well only when he dueld kaibaman and lost and learn that losing is not the end of the world.
_DM: Seto Kaiba vs Noah_
_GX: Jaden vs Chazz(third duel), Bastion vs Tania, Aster vs Adrian, Zane vs Yubel and Jaden vs Chazz(last duel)_
_5D's: Antimony vs Yusei(First duel)_
_Zexal: Idk_
_Arc-V: Yuya vs Sawatari(second duel), Tsukikage vs Shinji, Shun vs Crow, Yugo vs Rin, Yugo vs Yuri, Yuya vs Shun_
Can you tell me the reason why you want to change the result of Adrian vs Aster? I personally would swap Misawa in place of Aster in that duel though.
First one agree. Second one disagree. Third one agree. Fourth one, Fifth one disagree. Unsure Sixth one. 5ds one k. Arc-V first one disagree. No idea on the second one. Agree on third. Disagree on fourth and fifth. Agree on last. Overall you have very biased emotional picks instead of logical for character's sake.
@@promisnwekenta9703 _I think that Chazz deserved to beat Jaden the third time(when he dueled for the North Academy) because of his brothers and Chazz in general deserved to beat Jaden at least once._
_Also, why do you disagree with Sawatari vs Yuya(second duel) and with Yugo vs Rin?_
@@azfarabdullah9638 _Adrian's victory was useless, he won but he lost to Yubel a few episodes later getting nothing._
_Aster's loss in that duel is the beginning of the end of his character._
@@geg708 Yeah, but its not all about beating people. Chazz character arc is to become a better human. More respectful, better duelist, more confidence in yourself, etc. And through many defeats that should happen, since chazz is really flawed in s1. He aint that good, selfish, arrogant, bunch of negative traits. And about the other 2 duels i disagreed with. Although sawatari quite shows the progression in s1, he still isnt strong enough to defeat yuya, but pretty close. Yugo was manipulated emotionally, thus he lost. He is kinda impulsive, so fits. Also lets dont strip wins off bracelet girls, they are already pretty worthless as it is. Thanks writers.
Revolver Vs lighting and yes I am still bitter
And I'm Stiller bitter about shun Vs yuya
Revolver straight won that duel twice. Lightning was just a cheating scumbag.
I think the writers did everything they could to show Revolver is far more superior than Lightning, but they couldn't have him straight up win because of their plans for the final duel of the season. Still the duel ended in a draw and Lightning perished so it didn't hurt Revolver's character.
@@coolplanet1 Yeah plus the writers showed how desperate Lighting was and I liked that Bohman comment that Lighting might be the most human because of the cheating.
@@matts5164 the problem though is...again the stakes. bohman was going to absorb lightning and be the final boss anyway, and yusaku would have won since yusaku beat or tied bohman 3 times
One result I would definitely change is in Arc-V. The one I'm talking about is Edo/Aster versus Yuya (Round 2). The change I would make is at the end of he duel, Yuya is about to defeat Edo with Odd-Eyes and smile world, and Edo has facedown Mystical Space Typhoon. If he activates it, he wins, but he chooses not to activate it and his LP drop to 0. He'd still lose, but this time on purpose. This would not only give Edo a sort of a win and show his strength as commander, but also be a metaphor that Edo is willing to smile again. Having Edo lose on purpose would make a lot of sense and would also be a throwback to Edo and Judai's first duel in GX. Also, it'd make the viewers think "If Edo was about to defeat Yuya, what about the others at Academia? What about Akaba Leo?" It would be an awesome build up of tension and also make the GX and Edo fans happy.
I’ve got a few:
1) Chazz should’ve beaten Jaden (the duel where Chazz’s brothers featured). He could’ve had an epiphany part way through, realise that he didn’t need his brothers for success and parlay that into a win
2) Shay should’ve beaten Yuya (Shay blamed Yuya for Ruri’s disappearance and it would’ve been closure if Shay had won)
3) Zane should’ve beaten Jaden (where Jaden was scared of Polymerization. I know if Jaden lost, he couldn’t go through the door, but Jaden could’ve snuck through when everybody was asleep)
4) This one is for a subbed episode, but Lazar should’ve beaten Crow (but not by Crow trying to throw the duel) and decide to help fight Illiaster anyway
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Pretty sure Jaden would’ve died had Zane beaten him.
And yes Chazz should’ve won and have that lead into his duel with his brother.
Wait if I remember correctly the Lazar vs crow duel was kinda funny because Lazar wanted to throw away but crow didn't let him because he wanted to throw away but again lazar didn't wanted crow to throw away because he wanted to throw away 😂
A few things:
Chaz’s winning wouldn’t have done anything because a couple episodes later Chazz’s brothers came back and Chazz was able to beat them and he beat them with weak cards while his brothers were using the cards they wanted him to use against Jaden this proving already that he is better than his brothers
No, there is no closure from beating someone who wasn’t involved
That duel was to show Jaden’s weakness and how unprepared he was to duel after losing himself into the darkness; there wasn’t supposed to be a winner
Crow should have won if anything; Lazar was mostly toying with him; underestimating him...Crow winning would have showed he had the skills...and lazar would have gotten humbled
You say Shay, which is a Dub name and then you say Ruri, which is not, make up your mind. English or not? Ruri is Lulu in the English dub
Dinosaur Time and Funny videos I didn’t know Ruri’s dub name
I would have changed:
VRAINS:Bohman vs Playmaker 1st/2nd to a DRAW, to build up Bohman, Hell even give him a win and then Ai rescueing Playmaker
Ghost Girl vs Blood Shepherd with change I mean erase, because it did nothing in the end
ZEXAL: Mizael vs Kaito 2nd (Sargasso) give them a real duel to show more of their powers, yes the moon duel was epic but it could have been even better
5Ds Aki vs Andre Was it so hard to give her a win, no we need to hype up the Team Unicorn who will never appear again XD
Could've had Bohman draw Round 1 (or lose since he was kinda... imperfect), lose in Round 2, then BEAT Yusaku. However, instead of some 'magic get out of free log out' nonsense, just have Bohman- who is a super honorable duelist- simply say that they are 'even' now, setting the stakes for the final match
BlazingUtopia yeah nur in Their 2nd duel he was full of rage and thought playmaker was a copy , so That useless Point needs to be erased as well
Agreed except for the fact that the moon duel was NOT epic or at least there was a lot of room for improvement. We suddenly go from Galaxy-Eyes prime photon dragon being awesome to Orbital Seven talking about his love life which completely ruins the mood. (That episode should have been replaced with something else, maybe the Kaito and Haruto backstory that was hinted at during Yuma's and Katio's tag duel together. I'd take less ridiculous filler then Orbital 7 falling in love also) Everyone forgot about overlay booster's effect, also Kaito winning but still dying was lame.
In the GX manga I think Asuka should have beaten Judai when they dueled. The duel meant a lot more to Asuka than it did to Judai. Similarly, like many people are saying in the comments, THE CHAZZ should have won in his North Academy duel against Judai.
If he was less of a douche I'd think he should have gotten more wins overall.
In duel monsters, it wouldve been way better if Kaiba beat Yugi legitimately in duelist kingdom. It wouldve made Yugi's anguish over the loss more understandable and wouldve made pegasus more terrifying.
It also would have created more tension in battle city. It would have been the true battle to determine the king of games instead of yugi just defending his title
Kaiba technically should've won. He had Blue-Eyes Ultimate with 4500 and nothing in Yugi's deck came close to that at the time. So of course the writers had to create some bullshit like it being split between 3 different heads and Yugi somehow fuses a spell card with a monster and destroys it? I think Kaiba winning here would've made their rivalry that much better.
tbf I think it's said Yugi's anguish wasn't so much the loss but that the loss meant losing the ability to save his grandpa, paired with the very abrupt revelation that his "other self" was ruthless enough that he's willing to knowingly kill Kaiba. Being a kind teen and suddenly finding out you share your body with a man who *will kill* with only about as much hesitation as a "Is he serious? *weighs options*" thought process would quite reasonably throw a guy for a loop.
I knew that Soulburner vs Blue Girl would be here lol
Interesting topic and great video 😀
Sorry to come here late, but one of the duels I would have changed in GX would have been Sho vs Hell Kaiser. It wouldn't have changed anything in the plot majorly, but would have been a showcase of Sho's growth as a character.
That would mean Sho got a draw with Kenzan of all people but beat the guy who almost beat Yubel in the later eps. I don't think it makes sense.
@@laranjamecanica9588 yeah it does, he draws with Kenzan at the start of the season and beats Kaiser a little more than half way through the season. Plenty of time to showcase his growth as a duelist and character.
Zane should have beaten Yubel possessing Jesse, but it would be done in a way that wouldn't change the story.
Zane would beat Yubel and the result would be Yubel splitting from Jesse. But right after the duel, Zane's heart gives out so he dies anyway. But he gets that final win, the final amazing duel that he always dreamed of with his Cyber-End Dragon.
And then the plot can continue pretty much the exact same. Jesse is free but maybe he's unconscious. And Jaden has to duel and beat Yubel so he and his friends can return to their world. Everything after will be preserved almost exactly, with the only difference being that Zane gets the victory I think he really deserves.
But no rainbow neos then but yeah I prefer this too.
Doesn't affect the plot very much-eh? Alright then, I'd write out the entire Battle Beast arc from Arc-V.
Yuto vs Yugo: No result, Yuya (possibly showing his berserk eyes) intervines in the duel and the 3 dragons roar at each other. Yuzu shows up and her braclet activates teleporting Yugo and Yuto away.
Shun vs Sora rematch: Shun shouldbhave won, he could have destroyed Sora's ego and smugness by summoning a rank 7 or 8 raidraptor, chanting in anger, showing him how powerful xyzs are. Replace the scene where Serena sees Shun falls down the stairs with Sora. Here Shun shows up with his raidraptor behind. Then Serena (with an unconscious Sora) runs away because of Shun is going to card him (and also fear), Shun mistakes Serena for Ruri gives chase continue from there.
Yuya vs the 3 Acadamia Students: This not as much who wins but who is dueling and is connected to the above match. Instead of Yuya dueling it could be Yuto since he harbors anger towards Acadamia, He goes bersek on them possibly summons either Dark Requim or a rank 5 Phantom Knight. He summons it at the same time Shun summons his boss monster.
"Right before Yuzu takes on Joeri and gets her character assassinated" I am dead, man
Leo losing to his friends in the academy. Leo literally set up the duel for his sister to win against a dark signer and the fact that he at that moment, with no signer powers, managed to hold his own long enough so that his sister could return from the spirit world is an incredible feat. To say that he could lose to his friends in the academy so much so often STILL after pulling off that kind of feat is annoying.
Yuma VS Shark in the hospital building. In case you don't remember, after Kaito's first duel with Mizael/Mizar in the forest, Yuma and Shark were hospitalized and Yuma was insecure about his strength. Shark offered Yuma a duel while pretending to be like he was in episode 1. Yuma defeats Shark, having passed the test. But in this alternate reality, Shark would defeat Yuma. Why? That was a no-stakes duel, and Shark could tell Yuma that he isn't ready to face the Varians yet and that Yuma needs more confidence. Also, this would be a good build up to Yuma and Nasch's eventual and dramatic final duel, where Yuma ends up winning. I think this would've been a massive win for Shark, who would be one of the few YuGiOh characters to have defeated the protagonist more than once.
Yuya vs Shun is still baffles me till this day, yes Shun should had won that duel. And don’t get me started with Soulburner duels, Soulburner is target demographic character of Vrains.The reason why people lost interest in Yugioh because of the writer’s poorly decisions.
the problem i noticed seem be very noticeable from arc v on
Rather since the later part of 5Ds, Akiza and Carly had so much more to offer
To be fair, those two got screwed not by the writers but by circumstances
Crow and his deck's popularity combined with the situation with Carly's original VA screwed Akiza and her development and said situation with Carly's original VA screwed her and Jack's relationship over and her as a result
I think Manjoume (Chazz) should've beat Judai (Jaden) after returning from North Academia. It would show that he is strong now and the power of Manjoume Thunder.
It's "Eye-zay-yuh" just as an fyi.
Glad to have you back man
Edit: Yusei lost to Kiryu.
Yusei was about to and couldn't have done a damn thing about it, but unfortunately the writers would rather he crash and therefore get the duel officially considered a dnf (did not finish) then just let him lose and THEN crash.
So realistically he did lose and anyone who tries to pretend he wouldn't have is dumb, but alas, he didn't "technically" lose.
@@jaernihiltheus7817 Pretty much. Although, an unofficial duel can't have an official result.
And I disagree that Yusei losing and then crashing would be better than him crashing instead of losing. If Apu's attack had connected, it would have consumed Yusei's soul. So the writers had him crash just before the attack hit, and Kiryu left him there with a pipe in his gut to suffer instead of finishing him off. The amount of plot armor nonsense they would have to make up to keep Apu from consuming Yusei even though he lost would be ridiculous, and this was a realistic result that is in character for Kiryu. Yusei 100% lost, and Kiryu styled on him at the end of it to add insult to literal injury. It's a much more interesting result than a normal loss, but they probably didn't anticipate Yugioh fans to pull so much bull just to say their best boi was undefeated, so now we have to deal with them constantly claiming Yusei is an undefeated Mary Sue.
@@machina5 what's Eye Say Yuh?
Also, he I do agree that Yusei's loss to Kalin should have been a loss.
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@@dinosaurtimeandfunnyvideos Dylan asked how to pronounce "Isaiah" in the video, so I was spelling it out phonetically.
I totally agree with the Arc-V points. Yuzu needed a lot more prominence in the series. The duel between Yuya and Kurosaki maybe could have ended with Yuto taking the spot of Yuya, but, because of that, Yuya-Yuto loses and Yuto tell Yuya about the others two brothers inside him and Kurosaki keeps its promise. The duel is very way too weird, so, if it had ended like this and with the details of your video, it would have been perfect to show that Yuya still has a lot to evolve. Good video, I liked a lot O/
DM:idk
GX: Adrian Vs aster or chazz Vs Jaden
5ds:jack Vs yusei
Zexal:kite Vs Yuma
Arc v:yuya Vs shun
Vrains:revolver Vs lighting
They did my boy Revolver dirty.
You think Yuma should have beat Kite?
@@trueblue6201 I ment vetrix
Id change Joey vs Marik so Joey wins. It fits the story for Joey to win. The guy had spent the last two and a half seasons on the back burner while Yugi and Kaiba have had direct interaction with all the main villains. Joey also had the whole promise to Mai to help save her while Yugi didnt really have much of a promise to beat Marik. Also it would have allowed Joey to completely shut up Kaiba that hes not a terrible duelist as he just did the impossible and it sets up Joey as believable that he could defeat Atem in their later duel. Which I believe he did win. Despite the three of them being the core trio of duelist Joey is always overshadowed by the other two and a win here would be perfect
Can you tell me the reason why you want to change the result of Adrian vs Aster? It would change a lot in the story it that happens.
I´d change DSOD´S ending. Instead of having the Pharaoh appear, I´d make Yugi slowly rise up and summon a new monster based on Atem and wipe out Yagami. It´d be such a great ending and really show how much Yugi has grown.
Would've changed Adrian Vs aster aswell
That Adrian win was necessary for the season.
@@seth9655 but if Adrian had died there what would've changed?
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Echo would be alive. As well as Aster.
Yubel would have been in a weaker state in her duel against Jaden.
@@seth9655 echo doesn't matter.
Yubel beats aster after Zane to add more build up.
Yubel lost to Jaden anyway so it doesn't matter
@@seth9655 Not really. I personally think the Arc would've been even better if Aster joined the fight against Yubel towards the end of season 3. Adrian and Echo didnt really add much to the arc and was just there. Even though I did enjoy the Yubel vs Adrian duel I don't think it should've happened. There could of been a cool tag team duel with Aster and Jaden vs Yubel just like how it was earlier with him and Jesse.
I know it's a strange duel to choose, but in yugioh 5D's, episode 47-50: "Mark of the Monkey" I wouldn't change the result of that duel, but I would change 1 detail. I would have Leo defeat Devack all on his own, without having Luna step in and help him at the very end. It was such a great opportunity for Leo's character development as he was known to be a bit of a klutz when it came to dueling up until this point, but at least he had heart. Defeating that dark signer when he was not a signer himself would have shown how far he had come as a duelist, but Luna stepping in, right at the end, completely undercut that moment. I was actually rooting for Leo in that duel too, seeing how all this time, he's been trying to prove himself, and now he has the perfect opportunity to do so. I'm not a fan a Leo's character, but from a storytelling perspective, such a great moment for that character was completely undermined by having Luna step in.
Joey/Jonouchi should've beaten Marik. It would've changed the plot, but I am salty about that loss to this day.
i would have joey have lost legimately though passing out from an attack from ra after he got marik to show the abilites of ra and lasting far longer than marik could have expected. the set up is not the best for a loss that they chose
Flynn McDonnell Or have Malik actually beat him without using BS
Marik was a horrible duelist who's deck wouldn't have beaten anyone if not for Ra's hacks. He should have lost to Joey and hell, even Mai but plot armor protects all villains until the final round with the protagonist.
@@Netherwolf6100 I don't really see Marik's 'plot armor' any different than Joey's luck and Yugi's heart of the cards nonsense. They gave Ra abilities that made it the most powerful God card and it works, because it sure as hell isn't in real duel monsters. Also Marik was never really in any real danger of losing against Mai like he was against Joey, he played her nearly the whole match.
@@DarthUchiha91 1: Yugi/Atem's Heart of the Cards nonsense was Atem’s ability to quite literally use his Godly powers to alter his deck and reshape the course of the duel. Atem is based on the Egyptian God Atum, a being who would reincarnate himself within the Pharaoh’s royal blood line in order to lead its people through crisis beyond human control and comprehension. Atem and even Yugi to a lesser extent is quite literally a God reincarnated into human form and without his memories, could only tap into his divine power in times of great stress and desperation. Its not some luck based ability but it’s really God Power. He’s hacking the world in his favor. Once he gets his memories back, he does just as much within his duel with Yugi, knowing the entire course of the duel and even calling cards before drawing them. That’s his power.
2: When it comes to Joey’s luck based dueling, won’t go into how unlike Yugi and Seto who had access to the best cards they could get their hands on while Joey was practically borrowing money from his friends just to make a deck out of random packs. However I’ve noticed a trend when it comes to Joey’s dueling; outside of Mako, Joey more often times than not loses to duelist who battle him honorably without tricks or lies but always wins against those who rely on such underhanded tactics, almost as if the world is trying to balance itself out. He typically wins against those who cheat while losing to those who are naturally good. He lost to Kaiba twice, lost to Yugi at least 2 times on screen, would have lost to Odion if Marik didn’t force the guy to play Ra against his will, and lost to Zigfried, all of whom didn’t cheat in any way. That seems to be Joey’s theme. He loses to those with skill and talent but falls to those who are weak-minded and liars.
Marik falls under the second category because he lacked the skill to beat someone like Ishizu who relied on her Millennium Necklace after Marik went nuts, barely strung Mai along because she was off her game thanks to her emotions, and would have outright lost to Joey if not for the fact that he relies heavily on Shadow Games and his higher tolerance for pain thanks to his Bloodline and the fact that he was born from the Darkness itself like Zorc. Not to mention the fact that he based his entire deck around the most OP card to date. Marik honestly is a pretty crappy duelist who based his deck around torturing people and wearing them down with his powers instead of any skill or actual ability. At least with his insane luck, Joey still has actual ability to hold his own against forces beyond his understanding and yes, I will remain salty about that loss until the day I die.
“I have a whole rant dedicated to Yuzu vs Yuri”
Hey I’m from a year in the future, it just came out
I would’ve changed every single duel in GX where Jaden stepped in for someone after they lost. ‘Nuff said
for the GX I think we could add more duels more than one
1)Zane vs Kamula (the reason Kaiser loses always makes me pissed off though it wasn't technically a loss he did yield to save Syrus but still it was annoying)
2) Bastion vs Chazz 2 (the reason Bastion loses always makes me even more pissed off)
3) Chazz vs Jaden - Their Final Match (The reason Chazz loses makes me even more and more pissed off)
Seriously I hate it when a character is clearly winner butshe/he yields by a stupid reason in the end....
For the DM and 5Ds your list is AMAZING! but I wish Kaiba could beat Yu-Gi in the Duelist Kingdom by fair and square instead of commit suicide thingy... (I know the reason but still Kaiba should have been able to beat Yugi there)
@ULGROTHA i agree 100%
I always wish that the Bastion vs Chazz duel in season 2 would've ended with Bastion winning since he pretty much did. I wish the writers would of made it so Bastion would've felt like he's saving Chazz rather than seeking Validation from the society of light. And it would've made Bastion seem like a way stronger character. But he gets swept under the rug for some reason
@@Sniffyy I always felt so bad for Bastion... he was an interesting and fun to watch. That's for sure he was so much better duelist than Chazz and many others... Also he was a major character in the Manga. Wonder why they decided to treat him like this... in duel links he doesn't even have his own theme... I guess they enjoy trolling him
Zane vs camula is perfect for this list I’m so mad he “lost” that to lmao
1) Agree wholeheartedly.
2) I’m okay with the result, but if it would have saved Bastion’s character to win then yes.
3) Not sure about that one, but yeah Chazz needed to beat Jaden at least once. And yes, when a stupid thing interrupts a duel it is frustrating (not all the time, sometimes there is no way to avoid it) but things like Joey loosing to Marik are not ok, and if I recall this was one of those kinda things.
Rua & Ruka vs. Lucciano
The result made no sense to me! You can have Rua lose like he did and then have Ruka (a SIGNER!) step up, assert her independence and how she will be the protector this time, and get a good win for her character. Instead they essentially fast-forward to just finish the duel and have Ruka lose.
Hmmmm I'm not so sure if the result would've been okay with the kids winning tho.
I mean maybe they wanted to have Lucciano look threatening. How about them being two single duels back to back? Rua loses but Ruka wins.
@@sirkillalot9892 That's why I don't think the result with Rua & Ruka winning is that good. Since the duel with Luccianno is meant to set him up as a threat, making him lose would've had the opposite effect, unless they made the duel like Yusei vs Antinomy R1, where Antinomy basically loses on purpose and states that Accel Synchro has much more to reveal (and by extension, he himself has more stuff to show off). Something like that would've actually worked for Luccianno vs the kids.
Ruka should have attained her Majestic Fairy Dragon in this duel. A missed opportunity right here!
@@tayirnull1567 Nah it really isn't, unless Aki, Crow and Rua eventually got their own versions to round out the whole team.
Super late but frankly I think it would make sense if we saw Shun watching Yuya’s later duels in the shadow if he did beat Yuya to give a slightly lighter ending to his arc. I think it’d have been way more interesting if the duel ended because he didn’t choose to use dark rebellion dragon despite being able to and him seeing it as a sort of spit on the face and Jack can still be the final pushing force if that’s nessecarry. He can choose to just watch him do what he think is embarrass himself/lose against the others but he clearly suprised and even lightens up a little as he can see the shadows of Yugo in his later plays where he embraces using all the dimensional dragons to the fullest especially Yugos. That would still leave it up in the air if Yuya and Shun ever become friends but it lightens up the otherwise really harsh ending you were proposing in comparison. Still kinda vague and harsh but more of a middle ground between the ideas.
For the Shun vs. Yuya duel a win for Shun would work here but I think a Draw would have been just as poignant. It would have let Shun accept that his best friend and sister were gone, while also letting Yuya know that sometimes his egao philosophy just doesn't work. Shun could still leave after (which I am all for) and we could get a shot of him in Heartland at the end instead of at the final duel.
Joey vs Marik, all he had to do was declare an attack
Akiza vs team unicorn. There was so much in her favor but instead they had her lose her last solo duel
Having her beat Andre and potentially the second member would have been so cathartic after the way they baited Jack.
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To be fair. Despite the fact they had a massive advantage with speed counters, akiza almost had a easy win on Andre. As great as it made Yusei look, we already knew he was great and akiza needed another win more after crow joined the team
@@Tirus177 Personally, the idea of Yusei beating all three of them at once sounds epic on paper, but the fact that Andre used a sacrificial tactic against Yusei iirc, and that Jean could have theoretically beat Yusei kind of takes away from that feeling in retrospect. I feel like simply having Jack lose would have been enough to establish Andre as a threat because it shows just how crazy prepared that his team was. Having him beat both of them feels like overkill to me, and they can always have the potential explanation of her summoning Stardust Dragon throwing him off, which would have been ironic given how Andre had literally just got done beating Jack by throwing him off as well. It basically would have been a contest of mind games.
I completely forgot the Yuzu VS Dennis duel happened.
I'm conflicted with the Yuya vs. Shun duel. I do think Shun's sentiment at the end is very beautiful, but also rather out of character, taking the deaths of his sister (his entire motivation for doing literally anything) and his best friend WAY too well... He deserved proper time to mourn. I feel like Arc-V tried very hard to pretend it's ending was a happy one when it really wasn't if you think about it. I do think having Shun lose and leave would have been really sad, but I also think the end of Arc-V needed a little more weight to it.
That's really the ultimate insult of Arc-V(a): not the misogynistic underpinnings with the constant mistreatment of the female cast, not the obnoxious favoritism, not the lack of explanation or even implication for the show connecting to the rest of the franchise, not the egao spam, not the Action spam; it's the inability of the show to acknowledge its ending as bittersweet at best.
Joey. VS. Marik. I will never NOT be mad.
DM: Yugi AND Kaiba beat Dartz
GX: Chazz and Aster Draw instead of Chazz winning.
5DS: Ruka/Luna beats the Illistar guy but Rua still loses
Zexal: Vector defeats Yuma
Arc V: Shun and Crow DRAW instead of Crow wining
Vrains: Blood Shepard duels Revolver's AI program and wins instead of dueling Revolver personally.
Tried of think of duels that wouldn't change too much too.
I don't think chazz and aster phoenix should've drawed it's good that chazz won that duel as after season 2 he was pretty useless and was more of a joke character so atleast he got a big win in the end.
@@theweirdo3129 True, I did like that. But then towards the end of season 2, so did Aster lol. Loss after loss despite beating both Jaden and Zane. So, I thought maybe a DRAW would be a way of benefiting both of them.
Didn't Shun and Crow duel in the middle of a tournament? I don't think a draw is actually possible
@@PhoenixLance13 OH YEAH. If it was up to me, that whole tournament would be scraped lol
@@Stratuji Yeah the tournament serves no purpose to the plot and they could have spared Jack's loss against Yuya. It takes a pretty large chunks of episodes too. Also I agree with Manjoume gets a draw with Edo would already show he's a great duelist.
Seto is the Vegeta of Yugioh
Many duels with Shay, he shoudn't just randomly lose to Sora,Kite&Crow. He should have won all those duels
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sora's loss was just bs, literally all the duel was off screen, wining against kite using the action cards would have been a crucial momment to kite (arc v) character realising teamwork is as fundamental as having good cards, against crow i disagree, that is a good loss, not a plot bs loss, they both went all in and crow came on top with a synchro 12 using two synchro monsters, BUUUUT shay vs zarc should have gon different, mabe not destroying zarc but destroying the xyz part of zarc by overcoming the supreme king with one punch just like yuto did to calm him down when he first met yuzu
What if Chazz lost to Alexis in the SOL and subsequently lost to Sartorius? It sucked that the Chazz vs Alexis duel was so short, but also the lack of variety in that arc.
The order of events would have to be tweaked a bit but... freed Chazz could have dueled Bastion and Atticus could have tried to save Alexis.
You actually can make video rant about the whole end of arc v , it's been 3 years and I still don't understand what the writers were thinking .
This end was complete GARBADGE
1000% agree with Noah vs. Seto, that duel is a black stain on that arc, as boring as it was, that duel made it one of the worst in the franchise imo. I might have added the Zarc duel to the list by having Reiji win but I don't know if that quite fits in the parameters of "completely changing" the results of the duel, I think it would have made his first (legitimate) onscreen loss to Yuya at the end of the series more meaningful had he been the one to defeat Zarc.
I would of changed Yuri vs Yuzu to a four turn duel that we get to see (yuzu gets the first turn and pulls of a pendulum summon but gets this terrifying aura from Yuri (I am thinking a zarc hint to which she sees the darkness triggering an adrenaline response) which causes her to panic end her turn and run to get an action card
Yuri holds back for the second turn pretty much just summoning 1 monster setting 1 and attacking (I am thinking we add a plant monster that can attack multiple cards by revealing plant(3 cards revealed means 3 attacks) monsters in there hand and if it battles a monster with higher attack/def they still take battle damage and then the monster is destroyed (basically Yuri is taking a little bit of damage to erase yuzu's field just playing with her like a toy) removing all cards on yuzus field and taking 500 damage before ending there turn
Turn 3 Yuzu draws and then plays an action card she grabbed (I am thinking adding a new action card called miracle draw(or creating a melodious draw spell that works by banishing the same amount as that of melodious monsters face up in the extra deck then drawing the same amount of cards) before assembling the most perfect field her deck could ever conceive giving her confidence before ending her turn after several direct attacks at yuri which Yuri is unphased by
Turn four begins and Yuri draws polymerization and immediately summons starving venom before adding more cards to her field with more monsters and using starving venoms effect begins taking her time attacking mostly chasing and savouring the feeling of dread Yuzu is experiencing before we get to what we originally saw
That I would love to see. It would be even more shocking if Yuri had some cards to rips card from Yuzu's hand!
Pretty good.
All the same, *would HAVE!!!
A bit of a minor one for me, but Mizar vs Kite's duel on the moon. Kite ended up dying and giving Numeron Dragon over to deliver anyway, so why not have it to where it was Kite's determination and dedication even facing defeat that converts Mizar over to help (kinda like it did in show). It also would have made the fact that Don Thousand wiped Mizar so easily all the more threatening.
5Ds: I would change the result of a Yusei vs Jack duel, but not the first. I'd actually change the result of their final duel. This just seemed like the perfect time for Jack to finally surpass Yusei, and it also would have been a nice way to bring the series full circle (as the only time we saw Yusei officially lose was against Jack in a flashback, way back at the beginning of the series). After all of Jack's growth throughout the series, and the insane level of preparation he did for this duel... it just felt like it would have been truly earnt. Yusei beating Jack again despite how much Jack has changed for the better since their previous duel just isn't all that interesting or compelling, and I think Yusei finally being surpassed by someone would have been a good ending for both his character and 5Ds as a whole.
I never really thought about Antinomy v Yusei R1 as a potential loss for Yusei, but yes there's not much of a reason for him not to lose here. I also thought that he should have lost to Ghost in the first duel of the Yliaster arc, because man did I have a really hard time believing Yusei was so terrified of the 'Synchro Killers' when he'd already beaten one by cheesing out Majestic Star Dragon. He was almost as terrified by it initially as he was by the Earthbound Gods which he actually nearly *died* to, how does that make sense?!
Arc-V: The trouble with giving Dennis a loss against Yuzu is that his dueling record in Arc-V is absolutely abysmal. This is his only win against a major character in the entire length of the show, so it'd be pretty harsh to take that away from him given that would make his record even worse than Sawatari's! And there's not really anywhere else you realistically give Dennis a W, in my opinion.
As much as I'd love to see Yuzu get more wins, I have to disagree with that one. Well, I think it's more accurate to say that I'd like to have seen Yuzu get more duels instead of becoming a literal plot device devoid of any character after her duel against Sergey.
Also special mention to Yugo vs Yuri where I probably wouldn't change the result but heck if this wasn't the duel with the MOST build-up in Arc-V and the way it was handled was just laughable. I'd instead entirely rewrite the circumstances of how it happens (keeping Edo and Kaito very, very far away from it) and how it plays out. But then I suppose that applies to pretty much all of the final third of Arc-V, I suppose.
the only issue with Yuma Losing is where do you put Zexal II?
The last duel between Jack and Yusei should have been a draw (much like the graduation match between Zane and Jaden). That would have made perfect sense to conclude 5d's like that.
I hated that DRAW of Jaden vs Zane 2. Wished Jaden lost and try again next season.
@@thatman666 It would have completely nulled the moment we got from it tho.
Letting Joey beat Marik fair and square is the best flip
So much of Arc-V come 3rd season needs changed, since the plot was just totally flawed to start with, and the duels showed that. The luck fiesta that was Yugo versus Serena at the end being the biggest showcase. The 3 different cards he had that were based entirely on dice rolls and/or specific cards being used in her grave, all of it because of the fact that they wrote themselves into a corner. The girls HAD to be captured, and the boys HAD to get close to each other and get frustrated and so on. Leo's plot of stopping Zarc from coming together by taking the girls and isolating Yuri was what set off Zarc's return in the first place, even though they prop him as being smart enough to see that. If the plot was revolved around getting the boys captured by some sort of cult of Zarc, everything would have made way more sense in the long run, and duels wouldn't be shoehorned for egao or otherwise. They even had the Doctor, who could have easily been the head of it all who influenced Zarc out of Yuri, especially with his parasites able to manipulate people with such a despair inducing mind control. He even ACTED like a total creep, one who shouldn't even be allowed near a school. I would have made the final duel against him, and have the girls and the rest of the Arc-V cast working together to beat Zarc, to show that Yuya's message of smiles was passed on, because having everything be re-combined and all the boys and girls forced into the same body just missed the mark of everyone deserving smiles. If Zarc was defeated by everyone surrounding Yuya, you could even keep the gauntlet the faced at the end, as they coax him back after being pushed into such a deep pit, alongside all the other Yu-boys. Solving the plot issue would just fix so many of the duels, and give more meaning to season 3, it was just so frustrating.
not to mention the yuri vs yuya duel. the end result with zarc being made ANYWAY basicly ment that yuya would have lost to yuri and it would change nothing. just have yuya has the physical body still despite the loss and boom
@@saiyanscaris6530 honestly it should have been the boys being hunted all along, not the girls. The whole of the plot would have made way more sense if they just swapped that.
Yusei actually lost a duel against dark signer kalin, he fell off his duel runner, and if he didn’t he would have lost either way. He would have lost due to hundred eyes Dragon’s attack
"Counter-balance to the all the egao and happiness we were getting shoved in our throats"
omg yes.
Honestly I think Yuya’s arc should have been him becoming more disenfranchised with his own philosophy, ironically becoming like those he dueled and preached at. Would have been much better to see him have to deal with high stakes where no one wins (killing someone else because you win can’t feel good) and then have to rediscover his own love of the game and his entertaining style would have been much better. Also have more berserk moments leading up to the conclusion of the arc with Zarc.
@@pattonkesselring4247 In other words, Judai's arc.
@@lordabizi5807 oh, yeah, I guess so. Wondered why that seemed familiar. I do wish we could have seen something more from Yuya though, he seemed a little flat.
13:00 But they make it clear that Yuto, Yugo and Yuri are still alive within Yuya just like Ruri, Rin and Serena are within Yuzu. That's why he is smiling in the end. It's not like they were gone completly.
And it's Yu gi oh people, if Atem was able to have his own body to duel Yugi and if we can devided one soul into 4, then giving back Yuto, Yugo, Yuri, Rin, Serena and Ruri's body is completly possible
@ULGROTHA It is maybe to cherry (It is the philosophy of the show: You need to smile when things get you down... still doesn't make good writting, I agree🤔) but still, if you knew you could still speak to your best friend and sister throught someone else, would you leave that person behind?
If you really want Shun to go the realistic way, they should have also completly assumed that Yuto and Ruri were really gone for good.
Now that I think about it, the thing I would have change in the duel between Yuya and Shun is the implication of Yuto in it: Litteraly having him take over Yuya during the duel to speak to Shun (Because it doesn't make sence to me how Shun was able to sence Yuto's presence during the canon duel)
@ULGROTHA Yeah, I do agree on that... 🤔
Oh yes. Here's my #1. Joey Vs. Marik, the REAL fight. To me, this was an absolute joke of an ending to any duel in all of Yugioh. Not only would it have proven just how talented he'd become since Duelist Kingdom, but also allowed us to finally see both he and Yugi duel in the finals. And I know what some are thinking. Marik was the big bad, Yugi had to beat him. But how cool of a twist would it have been if Joey beat him protecting his friend? It would have also been an interesting twist on the defeat of a main villain. Not only that, but we may have gotten to see him use Ra. I know there's the whole rule about only those with ancestors from the ancient past could read Ra's inscription, but whose to say he didn't have any? Marik stated many onboard the blimp had ties to ancient Egypt, could have been the same for him. And Joey's not dumb, he would have found ways to uniquely use Ra's abilities, no doubt. Ugh...The majority of the fight was awesome, especially seeing Marik's frightened face when Joey summoned his last monster. But the fact they could make him yell "Attack!" before collapsing was just awful.
Joey can't used Ra. It is a big plot point that only certain can use the gods and you need a chant to even use Ra. And we know Joey has no ties to Egypt.
The ones I like the most are the Kiaba VS Leon duel and the Yusei Vs Jack duel.
They definitely made a lot of sense.
Surprised he didn’t bring up Joey vs Marik.
The thing is: even though Joey losing was 100% because the plot demanded it and he did theoretically beat Marik, he shouldn't have got that far in the finals tournament to begin with given that he realistically lost handily to Odion, only being spared defeat by aforementioned plot demands (Marik ordered Odion to stop his attack for game in favour of using Ra, in order to try and keep his true identity secret).
Dan Costello that and if I’m honest, that Joey v Marik duel would be completely different if Marik didn’t have egyptian magic on his side. That’s the most common thing I hear though. That if Marik didn’t have access to the Millennium Rod, he’d lose to Joey.
@@agoodname6997 legit though Marik was actually a trash duelist throughout the series (except for the final where he had a semi-competent strategy); Mai literally had game with her 3 Harpies but she tried to flex and attempted to summon Ra, and Joey only lost his match due to the Shadow Game induced by the Rod.
Even Odion was a more formidable an opponent, as shown when he backed Joey into a corner, and won 12 locator cards (or 10, assuming he and Marik started with 1 each) on the last day of Battle City.
@@dancostello4872 Mai giving Marik a good duel is an adaptational upgrade for the anime. In the manga, Marik stomped Mai and her one chance for victory was to use Ra.
I would've had Axel beat the Supreme King instead of draw with him it would have put Axel Brody's character over the top and it would increase his stock immensely. I see why they had them draw but Axel winning would have made him the best protagonist behind Jaden and Zane Truesdale
For Yusei vs Jack, how would Yusei get Stardust back? Also I would have Yusei lose to team Unicorn since it was not a must win duel
How would he make it to Team Ragnarok then?
Would you allow another member of Team 5Ds to deliver the final blow? That'd be cool.
I like Yusei defeating Jack in S1. If Jack was to get his revenge at some point it should come later on.
@@runningoncylinders3829 unicorn Vs 5ds was in the group stage to get through to the knockout
@George Madathany
The same way he did get it back in the show - have Jack show up and give it to him for the Fortune Cup
Did you watch 5D's?
@@drearydoll9430 Why would he give it back if he had won? He reviewed the duel with Goodwin and co. and since he felt defeated it affected his pride. Only way Yusei is getting it back in this situation is if Jack considers it trash, which would be unlikely.
Only One from GX?!?
In season 1 i would make this changes:
Jaden vs Misawa.
Make Misawa Wins
THEN Chazz beats Misawa when he comes back
And then we have this interesting rock paper scissors situation where we can have Jaden beat Chazz, Chazz Misawa and Misawa Jaden, woul be a very interesting dynamic
So many in Arc-V I wouldn've changed
I'd rewrite S3 completely with more time, keeping the rest is ok.
@ULGROTHA Oh ha ha
Hot Take, Joey should have beaten Kaiba in battle for the bronze
Nearly a year later and I still want a sequel to VRAINS.
You're not the only one, especialy now when they brought back Firewall
I really agree with you when it comes to Vector. Bcs he really tricked Yuma and that betrayal really threw him off the rail so he became Dark Yuma and after all the effort Vector went through to do that he should've won. Also I agree with Bastion winning against Tanya and I would totally erase the whole "Bastion has a crush on Tanya" thing cus it totally ruined his character and he was quite badass and capable in the first season.
Joey vs Marik: just imagine how much of an awesome twist it would been if this Weeb (no offense) actually beat a main antagonist!
Technically speaking he did, that’s why everyone is pissed.
The Sargaso thing it's tricky to cuz I've always seen it as it collapsing due to you know vector stoping so that he didn't die but I feel like he would have let Yuma die if it all came down to
There is at least a dozen duels where I feel female characters get robbed and especially characters like Mai Valentine and Blue Angel suffered heavily from barely getting any meaningful wins