Thank you so much for the shout-out! For the record, If my (rather limited)Star Trek knowledge serves me well, I’d probably put my money on the Dominion. They seem like they have a more fluid mentality when it comes to military operations, being able to adapt to new foes to exploit their weaknesses. The Covenant on the other had are really rigid, never diverging from their traditional military mentalities. Don’t get me wrong, the Covenant would put up one hell of a fight but ultimately, they wouldn’t win the war.
well you really deserve it. :) yeah that seems to be the general consensus. though as i discussed 'the covenant' is more than just a government but a culture. given that we see many splinter factions which all maintain the covenant hierarchy.
If the Founders KNEW, definitely, that their survival was at risk, I imagine the would send every shapeshifter they could spare to infiltrate their opponents. I suspect the reason we saw just a few examples of this was they were unwilling to risk losing large numbers of their kin on an (initially)near certain victory.
@@GoddessTier Especially since all the races that make up the Convenient hate each other. The Elites despise the Brutes and think all other races but the Prophets are lower them then. The Prophets want the Elites gone, and do not care about its other members so long as they don't threaten their power. The Grunts and Jackals despise each other for the Jackles trying to use bioweapons against the Grunts, and Grunts trying to kill every Jeckle in every rebellion. The Grunts want to be free or at least rise up in the Convenient caste system. The Engineers are practically slaves and not treated well to the point a human shows them some form of trust and they switch sides when freed. And most Brutes seem to hate all of the other races and seem to be biding their time to kill them all. Honestly, a few hundred Changelings are enough to have the Convenient descend into civil war, especially if they gain true information from the Prophets.
The Dominion without the Founders would be very similar to the Peacekeepers without the Eidolons (who modified some primitive mammaals from some obscure planetcalled Earth) to act as enforcers or "peacekeepers" in the TV show Farscape.
I just wanted to point out something, you stated the Dominion does not invent new technology. However, during Season 7 of DS9, it shows they can and did during the final year of Dominion War. They at least develop a new rifle to give to their troops, as they made energy weapons that do not cauterize the wound, making it so their victims that survive the initial shot. They also developed the Alpha Jem'haddar and new ways to produce the White. Not to mention they introduce a whole new battleship during the war, possible due to Alliance ships able to hit above their weight class, but more likely to adapt to the fact they could not produce the troops needed for traditional Jem'Haddar tactics, so they needed ships more on the quality side. They may not be as innovative as the UFP, but that is not to say they can't make a new design, unlike the Convenient that can't innovate (Seemingly). Also, I feel the Changelings could be a major threat to the Convenien. Especifically, if they replace key leadership positions and cause the Convenient to infight for the Convenient has a history of civil wars as the various races declared war on each other. It would not take much to get the various races to fight each other. Though the threat of rebellion is also a danger for the Dominion, but not a major one since only the Vorta, the Jem'haddar and the Changelings have access to the most advanced ships and all three are almost completely loyal to the Great Link.
There is an addendum to your analysis of Dominion Technology. I would say that your analysis holds true for tradition mechanical & computing technologies. However, we do see that the Dominion are not only advanced in biological & genetic technologies, but they can innovate un that area as well. 1. The 3 day maturation cycle of a Jem'Hadar is beyond impressive. 2. Originally Jem'Hadar were not addicted to Ketracel-White. That was added later. 3. Although the writers never continued this story arc, after the Dominion suffered their first major defeat in Operation Return, the Dominion in a very short time created the Alphas: Jem-Hadar redesigned for Alpha Quadrant combat.
That's an interesting comparison you got there. I'll express my thoughts in how I think this conflict would play out. This most likely starts when a Covie corvette or frigate under a Sangheili commander encounters a member of the Dominion, specifically a vassal state. The encounter will be dangerous. The commander will inquire if the member knows of The Great Journey if contact is successful, and that's a big if. Both parties will report the encounter such that there is a negligible difference in who knows first. The Covenant will attempt a stealthy reconnaissance of the area and reason that they have encountered a loose coalition of races united by trade with little to no military activity, but their activities will be mostly or completely conspicuous to Dominion observation. The Covenant will probably stumble into a handful of star systems with large fleets demanding religious conversion as they try divide and conquer this coalition. Things will go well at first. The vassal states may pretend to capitulate, or they may warn the Covenant that they are under Dominion authority. The San'Shyuum will figure this Dominion is the trade alliance and plan to crush some rabble of an allied fleet. Instead, the Dominion core fleets will arrive and position themselves near to the Covenant. If the Dominion believe that a large battle would be costly to their forces, the Vorta would attempt to open communications with the Covenant first. If nothing else, the San'Shyuum presiding over the invasion, possibly one of the prophets (probably Regret, maybe Mercy, but not Truth) will see they are outnumbered and probably outgunned. Regret actually has some decent tactical sense, so he would communicate and agree to withdraw. A lower ranked San'Shyuum would most likely yield to cowardice and run without even talking. What follows is what I'd find the most interesting. I think Truth would see an opportunity to exploit an alliance, but would proceed cautiously. No one in the Covenant would realize the existence of the Founders, or they would believe the Vorta are the Founders. The Dominion would also be cautious, but the Vorta would pretend to play into Truth's hand. Truth may suspect the Vorta, but he and the Covenant will be oblivious to the Changling infiltration. The final act would be a cold war that plays out for years until the Covenant with its Prophets are led into a trap and left crippled beyond repair. The Dominion would support the Banished as they hunt down the Covenant remnant and may even hire them for other activities. Its possible the Founders/Changlings might be discovered during this cold war, but unlikely. Religion often only requires superficial demonstrations to convince others you're authentic. This would probably be the easiest society the Changlings would have to blend into and only have noticed it because of its massive scale. Even if they were discovered, I believe the end result would still be the same. If there was a large scale conflict, it would be long, atrocious, and bloody, but my money would still be on the Dominion.
Jackals/Kig-Yar don’t believe in the Great Journey as much as other races, they participate with the covenant out of convenience most of the time. In fact, when a Kig-Yar ship found humans (basically the first contact with humanity) they realized the planet (Harvest) was full of forerunner relics (actually just the humans) tio sell to the Prophets and become rich/important.
The Banished do changed the hierarchy a bit, a lot of their sangheili/elites are unshielded and don’t have the best armor/weaponry. This makes sense due to the Jiralhanae/brutes sense of pride and strength and their xenophobia towards Sangheili. Unggoy are kinda dragged around by all Covenant remnants being honest lol. Swords of Sangheilos may be the exception because of that Unggoy RANGER LEADER in Shadow of Intent, which manages to hold his own against a Covenant Prelate. (really dangerous individual) you could say the Unggoy Ranger was already a ranger before the Covenant collapse though.
So this video was more so a social-cultural and governmental comparison rather than military or economic comparison. Given that here are my thoughts: Technologically, the Covenant have the initial edge in tech (ex, their slip-space drives could go from DS9 to to the Gamma Quadrant side of the wormhole in about a month while it would take the Dominion a century to do the same); but the assimilative nature of the Dominion, akin the the UFP and the Borg would allow it to close the gap rather quickly. Plus both sides have shields and transporters. Though the Dominion would still have to rely more on sheer numbers do to the size of both Covenant ships and species. In terms of religious beliefs & government structure, as long as something akin to the "Great Schism" and/or the near-extinction of the San'shyuum (prophers) by the Flood during the fall of High Charity doesn't happen, it is likely that if the Covenant High Prophets were KIA, another group of power hungry San'shyuum would just replace them. Still without a clear line of succession beyond its species-based caste system, it would not be pretty and would be rather paralyzing. While due to the decentralized yet authoritarian nature of the Dominion, the reverence the Vorta and Jem'hadar have for the Founders _"Victory is Life"_ , and the lack of this same reverence among most if not all the other member species of the Dominion, if the Founders were to all be killed (or thought to be) than the Vorta and Jam'hadar seeing this as their greatest failure would most likely commit their equivalent mass seppuku (ritual suicide); and the other species in the Dominion with little to no other common ties would most likely facture into a collection small of species/planetary governments with maybe a few areas forming confederal trade blocs in sector or two. But the lack of knowledge on where the Founders are would most likely prevent this possibility. The Covenant could also attempt to convert many of the alien species in to Dominion to join the Covenant, as the would not deny the option here like with Humanity. In terms of ground forces, Jem'hadar are tough, but their numbers can be challenged by the likes of Unggoys and Yanme'e; while 1v1 a Jem'hadar stands little to no chance against a Sangheili, Jiralhanae, or Mekgolo, it may even take a full squad to take just one down. Plus the Dominion do not put much focus on ground vehicles as the Covenant. Both for the most part ignore medical tech. Economically & logistically, I am not sure as the economic nor logistical aspects of either side have been delved into much. But given that the Kig-Yar are mercenaries that don't believe in the _Great Journey"_ , the Dominion could possibly bribe some of the Kig-Yar to turn turncoat, giving the Dominion and buff up. The Huragok have no love lost for either, only liking to serve Forerunners or Humans. My final thoughts: Neither side has a likely chance of conquering the other core territory. However in a neutral area where neither side has initial home-field advantage, it depends on if the Dominion can adapt to the Covenant quick enough and if either side has the opportunity/capability to assassinate the leadership of the other faction. So the purple faction is the winner.
The Dominion has the edge in the fact that they alternate and change depending upon who they are fighting. The early federation vs dominion they fight with only their fighters because that’s all they need, Polaron weapons bypass early federation shields so fighting in squads of 3 ships is all you need. When that doesn’t work you fight a standard war before you find another weakness and target their power systems and politicians. The covenant will fight one way and stick to that way, their capital ships don’t even seem very manoeuvrable which the dominion ones are. Probably not only that but the dominion would probably find a way to replace the covenant leadership.
I was surprise after our talk you did this I must of spark something. I do wonder what if say crossover the UFP/Starfleet say 2370 had the Master Chief and Cortana drop on them and what ripple effect in advising Starfleet defense wise as military mentally to help Starfleet prepare for coming conflict as they get up to speed and fix many of the wrongs and likely kick Starfleet war economy early as simple fact is what they think they need is not cutting it what they need is more ships I see the Battle of Arcadia going different if Starfleet Marines were planet side to augment the locals I see new defense wall like the Maximum Wall Overall better equip and train Starfleet Marines Companies but most of all stronger foundation as Argo Rovers like Warthogs and Argo Shuttles like Dropships plus likely Valkyrie Fighters or the USS Incursion and USS Typhon a Prowler and Assault Ship It would delay the war and Starfleet deployment of Dumb AIs Fleet plus improve security make Founders within harder to cause damage add in option copies of Cortana as tech she took from the Covies in first strike warning no copy of a copy as starts to degrade so only direct copies Overall planning and organization and best of all more ships and regular training and wargames might even delay or stop the war on this end
the dominion does have vorta scientist that did try to find a cure for the founders after they where infected they failed, but at least they tried, also the as already mentioned they did adapt to the cloaking tech, and where able to integrate the breen energy dampener weapon, so they are more able to adapted then the Covenant. also the dominion doesn't give a single bleep about things like honor or fighting fair or making something look good , they are all about what is most effective, furthermore they are described as haveing an impressive ability to produce not only Jem'hadar but ships aswell or at least by UPF standards they do.
Dominion technology is reactive. Meaning that they continue using what they have if something's not working then the innovate to react to the opponent. The best example of this is cloaking technology on ships the Dominion were almost instantaneously able to react to that technology in a short period of time the ships are you able to pull out tachyon emissions in order to capture cloaked ships
Anyone who would insult the man for his hard work and give him a thumbs down is just plain out idiot. Especially with his battle space videos those are the best thank you good sir for the great content and shame on you person for giving him a thumbs down
The Dominion seems extremely adapt at both soft and hard power until the script needs them not to be. I could imagine in a collapse a Vorta dictator perhaps? If the founders are so absent then why not? I would assume the sorta are involved with production and distribution of "the white". There may also be a capital, certainly there would be key worlds.
Nice video I've been a fan of the channel for a wile now Not shore how long ago this video was made or if you count s.t.o.l. but I watched a video a couple of weeks ago now, and in regards to how tech-savvy the Founders are The video said how they were warp capable before the Vulcan were and that the went through the worm hole and travelled as far as the Klingon home world where they then attempted to make them there warrior slaves like the Jem'Hadar but they couldn't control them properly with the white so they gave up That would suggest that they are fairly technologically advanced
interesting. that sounds like a beta cannon theory that would make the founders the Hurk or the 'Gods' that the klingons killed. personally i don't see the need. although i do subscribe to the theory that the Ancient humanoids from TNG 'The Chase' would go on to evolve into the founders.
I also would say that the changelings are extremely Adept at the technology I mean 11 the major super-powers technology almost overnight. Federation-klingon romulans excetera they're able to infiltrate and obviously use the technology in order to do so
How about the dominion and the Covenant vs. The Zentrandi And the Dominion and Covenant are not creative enough to figure out you just need a japanese pop singer...
Thank you so much for the shout-out!
For the record, If my (rather limited)Star Trek knowledge serves me well, I’d probably put my money on the Dominion. They seem like they have a more fluid mentality when it comes to military operations, being able to adapt to new foes to exploit their weaknesses. The Covenant on the other had are really rigid, never diverging from their traditional military mentalities. Don’t get me wrong, the Covenant would put up one hell of a fight but ultimately, they wouldn’t win the war.
well you really deserve it. :)
yeah that seems to be the general consensus. though as i discussed 'the covenant' is more than just a government but a culture. given that we see many splinter factions which all maintain the covenant hierarchy.
If the Founders KNEW, definitely, that their survival was at risk, I imagine the would send every shapeshifter they could spare to infiltrate their opponents. I suspect the reason we saw just a few examples of this was they were unwilling to risk losing large numbers of their kin on an (initially)near certain victory.
@@GoddessTier Especially since all the races that make up the Convenient hate each other. The Elites despise the Brutes and think all other races but the Prophets are lower them then. The Prophets want the Elites gone, and do not care about its other members so long as they don't threaten their power. The Grunts and Jackals despise each other for the Jackles trying to use bioweapons against the Grunts, and Grunts trying to kill every Jeckle in every rebellion. The Grunts want to be free or at least rise up in the Convenient caste system. The Engineers are practically slaves and not treated well to the point a human shows them some form of trust and they switch sides when freed. And most Brutes seem to hate all of the other races and seem to be biding their time to kill them all.
Honestly, a few hundred Changelings are enough to have the Convenient descend into civil war, especially if they gain true information from the Prophets.
The purple crossover we need.
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The Dominion without the Founders would be very similar to the Peacekeepers without the Eidolons (who modified some primitive mammaals from some obscure planetcalled Earth) to act as enforcers or "peacekeepers" in the TV show Farscape.
I just wanted to point out something, you stated the Dominion does not invent new technology. However, during Season 7 of DS9, it shows they can and did during the final year of Dominion War. They at least develop a new rifle to give to their troops, as they made energy weapons that do not cauterize the wound, making it so their victims that survive the initial shot. They also developed the Alpha Jem'haddar and new ways to produce the White. Not to mention they introduce a whole new battleship during the war, possible due to Alliance ships able to hit above their weight class, but more likely to adapt to the fact they could not produce the troops needed for traditional Jem'Haddar tactics, so they needed ships more on the quality side. They may not be as innovative as the UFP, but that is not to say they can't make a new design, unlike the Convenient that can't innovate (Seemingly).
Also, I feel the Changelings could be a major threat to the Convenien. Especifically, if they replace key leadership positions and cause the Convenient to infight for the Convenient has a history of civil wars as the various races declared war on each other. It would not take much to get the various races to fight each other. Though the threat of rebellion is also a danger for the Dominion, but not a major one since only the Vorta, the Jem'haddar and the Changelings have access to the most advanced ships and all three are almost completely loyal to the Great Link.
There is an addendum to your analysis of Dominion Technology.
I would say that your analysis holds true for tradition mechanical & computing technologies. However, we do see that the Dominion are not only advanced in biological & genetic technologies, but they can innovate un that area as well.
1. The 3 day maturation cycle of a Jem'Hadar is beyond impressive.
2. Originally Jem'Hadar were not addicted to Ketracel-White. That was added later.
3. Although the writers never continued this story arc, after the Dominion suffered their first major defeat in Operation Return, the Dominion in a very short time created the Alphas: Jem-Hadar redesigned for Alpha Quadrant combat.
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That's an interesting comparison you got there. I'll express my thoughts in how I think this conflict would play out.
This most likely starts when a Covie corvette or frigate under a Sangheili commander encounters a member of the Dominion, specifically a vassal state. The encounter will be dangerous. The commander will inquire if the member knows of The Great Journey if contact is successful, and that's a big if. Both parties will report the encounter such that there is a negligible difference in who knows first. The Covenant will attempt a stealthy reconnaissance of the area and reason that they have encountered a loose coalition of races united by trade with little to no military activity, but their activities will be mostly or completely conspicuous to Dominion observation. The Covenant will probably stumble into a handful of star systems with large fleets demanding religious conversion as they try divide and conquer this coalition.
Things will go well at first. The vassal states may pretend to capitulate, or they may warn the Covenant that they are under Dominion authority. The San'Shyuum will figure this Dominion is the trade alliance and plan to crush some rabble of an allied fleet. Instead, the Dominion core fleets will arrive and position themselves near to the Covenant. If the Dominion believe that a large battle would be costly to their forces, the Vorta would attempt to open communications with the Covenant first. If nothing else, the San'Shyuum presiding over the invasion, possibly one of the prophets (probably Regret, maybe Mercy, but not Truth) will see they are outnumbered and probably outgunned. Regret actually has some decent tactical sense, so he would communicate and agree to withdraw. A lower ranked San'Shyuum would most likely yield to cowardice and run without even talking.
What follows is what I'd find the most interesting. I think Truth would see an opportunity to exploit an alliance, but would proceed cautiously. No one in the Covenant would realize the existence of the Founders, or they would believe the Vorta are the Founders. The Dominion would also be cautious, but the Vorta would pretend to play into Truth's hand. Truth may suspect the Vorta, but he and the Covenant will be oblivious to the Changling infiltration. The final act would be a cold war that plays out for years until the Covenant with its Prophets are led into a trap and left crippled beyond repair. The Dominion would support the Banished as they hunt down the Covenant remnant and may even hire them for other activities.
Its possible the Founders/Changlings might be discovered during this cold war, but unlikely. Religion often only requires superficial demonstrations to convince others you're authentic. This would probably be the easiest society the Changlings would have to blend into and only have noticed it because of its massive scale. Even if they were discovered, I believe the end result would still be the same. If there was a large scale conflict, it would be long, atrocious, and bloody, but my money would still be on the Dominion.
Jackals/Kig-Yar don’t believe in the Great Journey as much as other races, they participate with the covenant out of convenience most of the time. In fact, when a Kig-Yar ship found humans (basically the first contact with humanity) they realized the planet (Harvest) was full of forerunner relics (actually just the humans) tio sell to the Prophets and become rich/important.
The Banished do changed the hierarchy a bit, a lot of their sangheili/elites are unshielded and don’t have the best armor/weaponry. This makes sense due to the Jiralhanae/brutes sense of pride and strength and their xenophobia towards Sangheili. Unggoy are kinda dragged around by all Covenant remnants being honest lol. Swords of Sangheilos may be the exception because of that Unggoy RANGER LEADER in Shadow of Intent, which manages to hold his own against a Covenant Prelate. (really dangerous individual) you could say the Unggoy Ranger was already a ranger before the Covenant collapse though.
Also bear in mind the grunt goblin although like yapyap I'm not sure weather it's canon
So this video was more so a social-cultural and governmental comparison rather than military or economic comparison.
Given that here are my thoughts:
Technologically, the Covenant have the initial edge in tech (ex, their slip-space drives could go from DS9 to to the Gamma Quadrant side of the wormhole in about a month while it would take the Dominion a century to do the same); but the assimilative nature of the Dominion, akin the the UFP and the Borg would allow it to close the gap rather quickly. Plus both sides have shields and transporters. Though the Dominion would still have to rely more on sheer numbers do to the size of both Covenant ships and species.
In terms of religious beliefs & government structure, as long as something akin to the "Great Schism" and/or the near-extinction of the San'shyuum (prophers) by the Flood during the fall of High Charity doesn't happen, it is likely that if the Covenant High Prophets were KIA, another group of power hungry San'shyuum would just replace them. Still without a clear line of succession beyond its species-based caste system, it would not be pretty and would be rather paralyzing.
While due to the decentralized yet authoritarian nature of the Dominion, the reverence the Vorta and Jem'hadar have for the Founders _"Victory is Life"_ , and the lack of this same reverence among most if not all the other member species of the Dominion, if the Founders were to all be killed (or thought to be) than the Vorta and Jam'hadar seeing this as their greatest failure would most likely commit their equivalent mass seppuku (ritual suicide); and the other species in the Dominion with little to no other common ties would most likely facture into a collection small of species/planetary governments with maybe a few areas forming confederal trade blocs in sector or two. But the lack of knowledge on where the Founders are would most likely prevent this possibility. The Covenant could also attempt to convert many of the alien species in to Dominion to join the Covenant, as the would not deny the option here like with Humanity.
In terms of ground forces, Jem'hadar are tough, but their numbers can be challenged by the likes of Unggoys and Yanme'e; while 1v1 a Jem'hadar stands little to no chance against a Sangheili, Jiralhanae, or Mekgolo, it may even take a full squad to take just one down. Plus the Dominion do not put much focus on ground vehicles as the Covenant. Both for the most part ignore medical tech.
Economically & logistically, I am not sure as the economic nor logistical aspects of either side have been delved into much. But given that the Kig-Yar are mercenaries that don't believe in the _Great Journey"_ , the Dominion could possibly bribe some of the Kig-Yar to turn turncoat, giving the Dominion and buff up. The Huragok have no love lost for either, only liking to serve Forerunners or Humans.
My final thoughts: Neither side has a likely chance of conquering the other core territory. However in a neutral area where neither side has initial home-field advantage, it depends on if the Dominion can adapt to the Covenant quick enough and if either side has the opportunity/capability to assassinate the leadership of the other faction. So the purple faction is the winner.
The Dominion has the edge in the fact that they alternate and change depending upon who they are fighting. The early federation vs dominion they fight with only their fighters because that’s all they need, Polaron weapons bypass early federation shields so fighting in squads of 3 ships is all you need. When that doesn’t work you fight a standard war before you find another weakness and target their power systems and politicians.
The covenant will fight one way and stick to that way, their capital ships don’t even seem very manoeuvrable which the dominion ones are. Probably not only that but the dominion would probably find a way to replace the covenant leadership.
yeah they don't really have a counter to shapeshifters, and covenant machines that use Lekgolo could probably be taken over by shapeshifters.
That and the dominion has transporters
I was surprise after our talk you did this I must of spark something. I do wonder what if say crossover the UFP/Starfleet say 2370 had the Master Chief and Cortana drop on them and what ripple effect in advising Starfleet defense wise as military mentally to help Starfleet prepare for coming conflict as they get up to speed and fix many of the wrongs and likely kick Starfleet war economy early as simple fact is what they think they need is not cutting it what they need is more ships I see the Battle of Arcadia going different if Starfleet Marines were planet side to augment the locals I see new defense wall like the Maximum Wall
Overall better equip and train Starfleet Marines Companies but most of all stronger foundation as Argo Rovers like Warthogs and Argo Shuttles like Dropships plus likely Valkyrie Fighters or the USS Incursion and USS Typhon a Prowler and Assault Ship
It would delay the war and Starfleet deployment of Dumb AIs Fleet plus improve security make Founders within harder to cause damage add in option copies of Cortana as tech she took from the Covies in first strike warning no copy of a copy as starts to degrade so only direct copies
Overall planning and organization and best of all more ships and regular training and wargames might even delay or stop the war on this end
I would love to see you dive into the Babylon 5 Series
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The Vorta save a founders life and were rewarded with slavery....... Talk about a raw deal.
they received the privilege of implementing the will of the founders.
the dominion does have vorta scientist that did try to find a cure for the founders after they where infected they failed, but at least they tried, also the as already mentioned they did adapt to the cloaking tech, and where able to integrate the breen energy dampener weapon, so they are more able to adapted then the Covenant.
also the dominion doesn't give a single bleep about things like honor or fighting fair or making something look good , they are all about what is most effective, furthermore they are described as haveing an impressive ability to produce not only Jem'hadar but ships aswell or at least by UPF standards they do.
Dominion technology is reactive. Meaning that they continue using what they have if something's not working then the innovate to react to the opponent. The best example of this is cloaking technology on ships the Dominion were almost instantaneously able to react to that technology in a short period of time the ships are you able to pull out tachyon emissions in order to capture cloaked ships
Only problem. Covenant tech is ( baring FTL) is only as good as 22nd century Romulan tech.
Anyone who would insult the man for his hard work and give him a thumbs down is just plain out
idiot. Especially with his battle space videos those are the best thank you good sir for the great content and shame on you person for giving him a thumbs down
The Dominion would destroy the Covenant
The Dominion seems extremely adapt at both soft and hard power until the script needs them not to be. I could imagine in a collapse a Vorta dictator perhaps? If the founders are so absent then why not? I would assume the sorta are involved with production and distribution of "the white". There may also be a capital, certainly there would be key worlds.
I recall at least one episode of DS-9 where they discussed the Dominion finding an alternate source of White in the Alpha quadrant
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They have alot in common.....they are both purple that tickled me haha you should do a galactic empire compared to the federation
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@@dianavespid937 Nein.
Assimilative technology ...or the combined technology of all the vassal states of the dominion?
Nice video I've been a fan of the channel for a wile now
Not shore how long ago this video was made or if you count s.t.o.l. but I watched a video a couple of weeks ago now, and in regards to how tech-savvy the Founders are
The video said how they were warp capable before the Vulcan were and that the went through the worm hole and travelled as far as the Klingon home world where they then attempted to make them there warrior slaves like the Jem'Hadar but they couldn't control them properly with the white so they gave up
That would suggest that they are fairly technologically advanced
interesting. that sounds like a beta cannon theory that would make the founders the Hurk or the 'Gods' that the klingons killed. personally i don't see the need.
although i do subscribe to the theory that the Ancient humanoids from TNG 'The Chase' would go on to evolve into the founders.
Battle of the Big Bad Purple Beetles.
I also would say that the changelings are extremely Adept at the technology I mean 11 the major super-powers technology almost overnight. Federation-klingon romulans excetera they're able to infiltrate and obviously use the technology in order to do so
I think a good way to describe a post founder dominion is as a vestegial empire (probably typed it wrong)
Covenant doesn't stand a chance.
What about the economic ties between world making them interdependent?
I am referring to the dominion empire.
The entire Dominion vs Master Chief.
but is that Halo 2 Master Chief or Halo 3?
Whichever has the best feats plus Federation upgraded power armor and a positronic chip containing Data as an AI.
The covenant only persists because the brutes and elites seized power and continued the hierarchy
yeah and arguably with things liked the banished they are accomplishing far more than the prophets.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 yah because the prophets are idiots
Well he is on 958 now ( scifi deep dive)
Let's get him to 1000!
Let's get him to 1000!
I don’t know what The Covenant
Is.
Basically, the main enemies from the Halo series of games. Halo lore is... weird
@@weldonwin oh
Hey he call my name.
How about the dominion and the Covenant vs. The Zentrandi
And the Dominion and Covenant are not creative enough to figure out you just need a japanese pop singer...
the doms all the way especially if they had the Breen energy dampening tech.
I have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.