Death and Taxes - Grim Reaper Bureaucracy Simulator
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- Death and Taxes is a bureaucracy simulator about the Grim Reaper's attempts to kill just enough people to stop the world exploding...
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Many a True Nerd: "I really gotta consider the pros and cons of this person dying. The moral rights and wrongs of removing this individual from the living. The consequences could be disastrous"
Gray Still Plays : "The game doesn't stop you from killing everyone"
HAHA YES! It's definitely two vastly different ways of playing the game, but we do have something for everyone :3
I presume you mean, follow the rules, but do so in a way that results in as many extra deaths as possible. Yes, that does sound like the most fun way to play this game.
I was wondering where I'd seen the angel with the cat!
callmekevin: "mass murdering, yay!"
Thank you I was going to say that
In day 2 Jon kills a nuclear power plant safety tech, which results in hundreds dead because of a meltdown.
In day 3, Jon doesnt think that killing a pilot would likely result in him dying while flying and killing the entire plane. The pilot is only saved because he has 5 kids.
I wonder if the mass deaths on day six would not have happened if Jon spared the safety tech?
@@kc12311 He would have likely had a different set of profiles there, yes :3
@@Oakenwarrior Awesome! Think I'll have to try out your game, too!
He killed a Prime Minister purely because he could vaguely see tassels on his shoulders and didn't like politics, which obviously means he actually a dictator.
When I saw that he was a pilot, I knew instantly he would die in a crash.
@@kc12311 Awesssooooome! That makes me so happy to hear (I signed in with our official account meanwhile :D )
"Oh, Jon's playing a game about hard decisions and bureaucracy, what could go wrong?"
30 minutes later: *Jon talks himself into imagining a prime minister as a military dictator to kill him
"Prime minister doesn't enjoy politics but is serving a second term"
Normal people: Everyone must've loved him.
Jon: He has to be some sort of military dictator
Still love watching your videos Jon but, why did you kill him?
I was thinking the same way as Jon lol.
The vast collection of war figurines are a tip-off. The shoulder bars don't help either. No, Jon was roght: possibly a future tyrant or warmonger.
@@Supadubya Arresting people before they commit a crime is pretty tyranical if you ask me
@@Supadubya How is that a tip-off? He has an interest in history, and history is largely broken up by warfare. Even assuming he is a military dictator, killing him because of that fact alone can lead to immense amounts of anguish and chaos. The power vacuum can lead to more suffering than any dictator.
OH MY WORD. (I'm a dev on the game)
Hello! Thank you for watching! I will also watch this RIGHT MEOW.
Well done - it's really good :)
@@ManyATrueNerd Thank you! Just finished watching it! AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHOUTING OUT THE WISHLIST ^_^
We're planning on sending out reviewer keys for the full game in the coming days. I hope that you may be interested in this?
Of course :)
@@ManyATrueNerd
Quick question: Why does the cat have thick paws? Is it like a mountian lion cub or is the artist kind of like Rick Griffin in style?
Jon: "We must be careful who we let live..."
Also Jon: *kills someone for liking pineapple on pizza*
That's just because he wants to resist the correct answer that he's wrong about pineapple on pizza.Sweet+savory is a combination widely used for a reason lol.
This makes logical sense.
He never said we must be careful who we kill!
@@bt4238 sweet and savory is a good combo but pineapple is still trash.
Where I live we put peach slices on pizza (though less often than garbage fruit pineapple)
@@Zenriesz People can eat whatever they want, don't be a dick.
I feel like the game developers caught on what kind of games Jon is into. Waiting for Microsoft Excel Spreadsheet Simulator 2020 with anticipation!
Don't forget the laminating DLC.
Genre: Horror. An Excel simulator where first the *formulas stop working correctly*, and it spirals out into an "Mind Control By Alien Overlords in A Post Apocalyptic Universe" type thing.
@@tinyprints5423 And where you, the last accountant on earth, must balance the budget so the brotherhood of earth can mount a valiant last stand against the alien foe. THE BOE DEPLOYS!
We love these kind of games ourselves too. And seems like he is totally in the target audience for this. ^^
@@joeyflodder182 Hey don't give us any funny ideas >_>
Thanks so much for playing our demo!
Another Estonian game. What is happening?
I love seeing community interaction from devs. It really goes a long way! :)
@@sbsftw4232 We think so too! :)
@@SentiNel090 Haha, we are trying to get somewhere on the grassroots level we are. :)
@@placeholdergameworks Trying to give Disco Elyisum a run for its money I bet
Luigi Wah, hero of the people, beloved by all? Come on, Jon.
He is all of these things, and gloriously close to MATN colours too!
It was definitely unexpected for Jon to miss the count of monte cristo reference of ''luigi vampa''
Everyone loves Wah luigi
@@JL-uq6dq Correction: Wah, Luigi
The Forklift is a refrence to his vehicle in Mario Kart DS
Im pretty sure the "Mr. Stewart" in a wheelchair who helped a lost detective was a "Deadly Premonition" reference
He’s also labeled as “mysterious capitalist” exactly what they call Harry in deadly premonition
Such facepalming when he missed that.
@Rapid Rheiner Er...check out "Rear Window", the classic Hitchcock film starring Jimmy Stewart.
JeffQyzt I wonder if Deadly Premonition’s Mr Stewart was himself a reference to that. York does like to talk about movies a lot.
12:36 "Oh, Bicycle Repair Man. I'm glad you've come. Look." *gestures to broken bicycle*
RIP Terry Jones
Oh this comment made me sad
38:15 Hey, it's the rich guy from Deadly Premonition! Surprised Jon didn't pick up on it, though it has been a while.
So says Mr. Stewart.
Nice catch! :3
Is that you Zach?
Oh god, what a terribly overrated game
At 43:12... I think they all died in the nuclear accident that “poisoned” an entire valley. That would be “toxic” and disregard class and age.
No, you're as bad as Jon at Perception. The game quite specifically said the industrial spill was "due to Corruption" and that the people asphyxiated in their sleep. I.e. it had NOTHING to do with nuclear power...
So as far as Jon is concerned, being single without kids while working in a small hobby shop and enjoying pineapple on pizza is grounds for a reasonable death.
MushyBird McMushington no, it’s grounds for death when given a choice between them and others who have others depending on them.
The pineapple pizza one was inexcusable though. How could you Jon.
@@tejshah6083 I like Pineapple on pizza, within reason, I don't go out of my way to get it but when we get a pizza with bacon and pineapple I grab a slice or two, the sweetness of the pineapple balances out the savory flavor of the bacon, also a Thumbs up for you
YES (the pizza thing, anyway)
In a world where he is the grim reaper, having kids grants U a long live
@@tejshah6083 pineapple on pizza is a very serious crime
Next week's live-stream ...
Death and Taxes ...
KILL EVERYTHING !
Re: "You can't fire me; I quit!" in movies/tv/etc. I feel like a lot of those things are set in America, where the overwhelming majority of people don't work under contract and there is no required notice period, so once the "I quit" bomb drops, you no longer work for the company and they cannot fire you.
It's still a dumb thing to say, because if you quit, you can't get any unemployment income (without very difficult legal proceedings wherein you prove you only quit because your former company intentionally made work hostile to get you to quit instead of firing you in order to deny you unemployment or some other benefit you are for whatever reason owed, at least), whereas you have a chance at it if they fire you, depending on why they fired you and how hard they like to fight unemployment claims.
I feel like there's a 10% chance this game is a backdoor data aggregator for AI that will have to make life and death decisions one day.
Haha, thanks for the warning, we will try to keep the AI from it.
25%
35%
50%
By the way, on day two it didn't specify that you had to mark the safety inspector with death, it just said you had to mark him. There might have been a loophile there to save lives.
Got the same vibe. I jumped back to make sure the actual phrasing changed, and it looked like a gotcha loophole situation to me.
@@b.a.m.5078 I mean, possibly, but I doubt it. Even the marker itself was called "Marker Of Death". And you used that to say who lives too... So technically you are marking everyone. I like the idea of the loophole, but it wouldn´t work.
This is actually misleading instructions on our part. For the demo "mark" meant to kill due to legacy stuff, for the full game the instructions specifically say that someone has to live or die.
@@Oakenwarrior Oh. Well, shit.
@@b.a.m.5078 BUT! It does create tension, so that's an unintended consequence :D
This..... Was an interesting glance into Jon's thought process lol
At first I’m like, “this game looks stupid”
Shortly later...
“How could you keep the cat twitter guy and kill the freaking prime minister!!!”
Yea thats what i was thinking i woulda killed the micro brewer
@@gingershrimp4024 Wait till you see the nano-brewer.
Why would you even think that? That's just fuckin disrespectful.
"Luigi Wah" Game of the year folks
Wah
Wah
Wah
“I’m not a Waluigi, I’m a Luigi.” (Dramatically shaves mustache)
Wah
Oh good. Jon and bureaucracy. What can possibly go wrong.
Death. So much Death.
He once had a minor job as a government officer in real life. Then the financial crash happened.
There's no way he could have caused it, but I still rate it highly suspicious.
Jon is one of those people where the ''would you kindly'' thing would work really well.
*pretends like this comment doesn't exist* >_>
Oh, and the Goeq (Koch) brothers made me chortle. At least these ones were shuffled off the mortal coil a bit quicker than the real ones were.
Game: your job is to prevent humanity from plunging into chaos
Jon: I'll just kill this governmental leader even though I have only these two bars on his shoulder to assume hes a dictator
THE MYSTERIOUS CEO WAS A DEADLY PREMONITION REFERENCE, JON!
Between this and Yes Your Grace it's been a very good time for Jon.
This is going on my wishlist immediately. Love the humor and the concept in general. I can't wait to start causing global chaos.
Thank you!
This is one fascinating gem of a game. Love the art style and the humour as well as difficult moral choices.
THANK YOU SO SO MUCH
3:50 it's not an apocalypse it's Armageddon
Christopher Quinn is a STONER! How does Jon not catch onto this? Reggae music and botany!? Perception score of 1 strikes agsin...
I suspect there's no waiting period in the US. If you quit, you can leave on the same day.
In Norway, there's a three month grace period whether you quit or are fired.
Three months? That would never work here, we own firearms.
Yeaah they WANT us to work for an additional 2 weeks after giving notice, but we don’t really HAVE to since here in America we have a saying for this kinda situation.. “What you gonna do, fire me?”
Yep. From what I've seen, most American employment agreements explicitly state that you can quit or be fired at any time, for any reason, without advance notice. That said, it's generally a good idea to leave on good terms with your employer (partly because your next employer might contact them before hiring you), and part of that is giving them a little time to find your replacement before you leave.
@@jeremydavis3631 not in every state its. Complicated.
Most. Places. Don't want people working when they've agreed to leave pay them and escort them out.
This needs to be a live stream as well, even if it's a normal video, so that Claire can comment live on Jon's justifications for killing people.
My god, can't wait till this get's burried by Jon's entire fanbase
Our steam page is blowing up so I'd say that's exactly what's happening X_X
Much love! And thank you, everyone :3
@@placeholdergameworks I know I've got it wishlisted. How soon I buy it's going to depend on the price though. Good luck. :)
Honestly the fact that You make 40+ minute videos makes me so happy!
I do like how Jon missed and killed the Deadly Premonition reference.
I feel like killing the safety inspector was the wrong decision
Stopped more nuclear power plants from being built, though...
@@Supadubya which lead to a lot of uranium sitting around...
No! Selling out while a student is the best possible outcome! Now he can graduate debt-free. As far as you're fired/i quit goes, there's no employment protection in the afterlife i guess
Armageddon came out in 98. Apparently I'm old
The Cat Twitter Account Holder gets to live? Does the world actually need another cat twitter account for goodness sake?
He would have been my first choice to go.
Mainly because my cat (well, kinda, still not sure who owns who) would kill me if I prioritized any other cat.
Yes. Yes it does.
But the cat might be sad if it's owner died, which is unacceptable.
Yea right. Cat would be like “cool, more food for me”
Darn, Jon. Condemning the Prime Minister just because he chose to homeschool
To be fair, the implications of an "apolitical" puppet of the military with disgusting amounts of money make for a rather easy kill...
I also thought that was a little harsh. Nothing wrong with homeschooling at all. I was homeschooled myself.
I didn't get a military dictator vibe except perhaps the uniform. I mean, Prime Minister... usually they call themselves "El Presidente" or "Glorious Leader" or something. But who knows.
@@JB-xl2jc They could be the prime minister for a dictator. Aka. One of his generals
He did die in "night on town"
Thanks for making this video - just spent 3 hours bringing death and destruction to humanity. Best. Game. EVER!
Something to note is that by profession, if you had killed the pilot in the third group then you likely would have killed hundreds of passengers with him in a freak plane accident.
The kill 2 of 6 I would go with the drug addict and revolutionary are my gut reactions to kill.
Drug addict editor: dark past might lead him to a murder rampage if things go wrong.
Revolutionary: I’m still 50/50 here since the revolution could lead to the overthrowing of a corrupt government for a more fair and less warmongering group. On the other hand he could lead to the death of countless people and instill a far worse government institution. Either way if he acts then tons will die.
Alternatively if the first half of the corrupt ceo duo had been arrested then the other could have been detained on the first’s testament before they did harm.
Hey, industrial rock is a thing
"You've had a good run. Sorry about that!"- ha ha priceless
This game needs an appeal system
also series when it releases please
Livestream! Can you imagine the yelling that will happen in the chat? It will be glorious!
Was the mysterious wheelchair bound capatalist who helped a lost detective a Deadly Premonition reference? As in Harry Stewart?
Wasn't expecting one of those to cross the Grim Reapers desk. Neat.
Also a bit like PurgaTony, which is a good thing. At least Jon only has to kill them, and not determine where they go. Though I would have liked to have seen him send someone to hell based on pizza topping choices.
Cool concept, look forward to release.
Yes! You are correct! :)
I think based on the sentencing and the news on the phone for the last one, the IT guy is the one supposed to live. The guy you let live is implied to be a one managing corporation excuses & legal loophole when they screw up. Like the one causing problem. The other one don't have significance and also old.
Yes please do a livestream of this game. It was a lot of fun hearing you rationalize how you chose who to save or not. I think you're right that the demo is meant to end with being told that you ruined everything just because it needs an ending.
Also, I think you're right about movies, TV shows, and other forms of media are wrong about how quitting works. They are often wrong about pretty much every other mundane aspect of life. How much someone is paid at work is not as high a priority as is loving a job. People enter locked apartments that do not need keys to unlock them. Racing cars around the countryside does not require refueling. I guess that explains why writers are writers, and not cashiers or race car drivers, and that they live in safe homes that do not need keys.
Jon, you missed what looked like a perfectly good chance for a headline about a ridiculous forklift accident. I’m disappointed.
That's Joe England's art, I'd recognize that anywhere!
You get to be a shinigami and write people's name in the death note.
Basically! But you get lots of other neat trinkets as well...
Harrison Stewart is a reference to Mr. Stewart from Deadly Premonition. Loving the small references to other games.
This seems like it could be used in some philosophy lessons to discuss different definitions of morality and moral frameworks
That's high praise! :3 One time we should probably make a video about how the game made the higher leadership of an art school got rustled because our project lead for the game presented this as her thesis...
Death and Taxes Game That sounds like quite the story!
And yeah, I immediately thought how some of the conundrums presented by the game could be really interesting ways to explain diferent philosophers version of morality in a “practical” way; and even how other questions can be explored, like what gives the player the authority to make those decisions, whether they should make them and such. Quite a fascinating concept.
And charming execution
@@verbalbbq7976 You humble us with your words *_*
This kind of discussion is exactly what we are trying to achieve with the game! This is so heartwarming to see...
Death & Taxes: Kill Everything run?
In the US you can quit without notice. It's frowned upon, but not illegal.
Jon on nuclear disaster deaths: "Not as bad as Chernobyl, so ok"
Low benchmark there, fella.
This game is very good at how it makes you see people as a numbers game and it hit me suddenly when he said she's at the top of my live list
I loved the Armageddon reference
This is the first video that picked up on the reference that we've seen!
The AI guy at the end founded the company who had a sponsorship deal with the cat review guy.
Within the first forty seconds of this video, I feel Jon has described his role on TH-cam to a Tee!
p.s. Keep up the grand work.
Great video thanks jon
I'm relieved to hear that you consider diplomats worthy of keeping alive!
16:00 - Bad at everything but good at dying
When lemons give you life... har har.
This would make an excellent livestream. Bring on the death
100% yes will watch this again in whatever form !
Soon, hopefully!
I like how on Day 3 Jon never factored into his reasoning that 'Columba' was a *_Commercial Airline Pilot_* and that, if he had chosen to kill him, it likely would have been in a plane crash killing all passengers and crew as well... Surely that would be the *_first_* factor, rather than his family?
oh hell yes! I love this kind of games! ❤️
So this is like reverse Actuary simulator? Seems great!
In the US, two weeks notice when resigning is polite but absolutely not required. You can say "I quit" and walk out the door that very moment, unless you're in the military. Refusing to accept the resignation and forcing a person to remain on the premises to work seems like it would qualify for criminal charges like unlawful imprisonment.
"21, that would be tragically young for a person to die" *has juice wlrd flash backs*
Who?
wow, this was an hour long. it really doesnt feel like it! new sub btw
Surprised Jon did not get Wah Luigi
also depending on the country, you can quit and immediately leave; but you lose 2 weeks of pay equivalent to the 2 weeks of notice period
Oh boy, day 1 on the twitter feed: "Rag-tag team of oil drillers sent to outer space to counter asteroid impact threat"... someone likes Armageddon I wager.
Yes. Yes we do.
@@Oakenwarrior It's a cool movie!
@@Kr0noZ It's.. definitely something :D
And what do we learn about ourselves with this game?
That even with the best of intentions, we will still presume who is deserving of life depending on our perception of how useful they are.
This game is deep, man.
Press F to pay respects. (24:18,41:00)
7:07 Don't wanna miss a thing, after all.
49:29 Performance evaluation.
No Jon, quitting it is a civil matter, a notice period is not legally enforceable, you can quit with immediate effect and they have to take that as read, though if you have already been told you are fired in writing then you can't quit because that legally would have precedence, it's not good enough verbally though. Always handy having a quitting with immediate effect letter handy if things get rocky in a job.
You should totally play this game when it comes out its great !
Besides the fact that you killed the nuclear power plant guy the AI researcher might prevent AI from becoming killbots
does anyone else here ever feel like Jon missed his calling as an office drone?
I mean... Jon already did the office drone thing. He worked in marketing for years before TH-cam.
@@joki9121
Apparently he used to work in LA or Seattle a long long time ago
@@Kaarl_Mills Where'd ya hear that? I thought he was a first generation Canadian immigrant and has been in the UK his whole life?
@@LeonidasOlympia
He mentioned working somewhere in that area during the collab with Dan and Matt on that driving game
@@Kaarl_Mills probably The Crew, I watched that but dont remember that part. I'll have to check it out again
That was such a good movie
Was the mysterious capitalist at 38:25 a reference to Deadly Premonition? After all the guy's last name was Stewart. Honestly that was one of my favorite series on the channel... if only for Jon's reactions
I love the "Big Lebowski" reference
God bless you jon for pronouncing Emu correctly - sincerely Australia.
"Tiny three headed dog"
Jon, you studied classics, surely you're aware of Cerberus? 🤦♂️
Edit: Also, needing lemons to summon/create the Reaper, I'm guessing is a "death is bittersweet" joke?
Yup, also.. when life gives you lemons..... make death?
@@placeholdergameworks sounds like a plan to me 😁😁
I mean, have you seen how Jon makes a cup of tea? A pair of lemons are harmless compared to that...
38:10 That's aDeadly Premonition reference.
A bicycle repairman. With a specialty in improving brakes and making bikers visible at night. Calling it now, before seeing what happens. Killing him will lead to a LOT more dying due to bicycle accidents.
There isn’t necessarily a notice period when you quit. There may be legal or other repercussions depending on where you live but in California, for instance, employer or employee may terminate employment at any time for any reason legally (within laws like anti-discrimination and anti-retribution).
"Michael has no dependants"
He has a cat. What if Tabby had nobody to look after her?
Luigi Wah? As in Waluigi? He's in this grim reaper simulator but not in Smash Bros...
Jon with Tabby...
If you like hard choices any chance of Telltales Walking Dead?
So if Jon happens to become death the way to survive is to have a ton of children that aren't home schooled
Jon is excited by death and also taxes? Who knew?
In the US you can quit most jobs without giving notice. Two weeks notice is a courtesy that future employers will look at when deciding to hire you. Since it is harder to collect unemployment benefits when you quit, it is actually often better to get fired, while employers prefer that you quit.
This was very enjoyable! An interesting and highly personal game that I would like to play. But, I have to say now that it would be extremely difficult for me to make some of these choices. ( I never finished Fallout 4 because I didn't want any of the people I "knew" to die!) And being an older person, I'd probably spare everyone over sixty in this game!! LOL!
1000mods the post-rock band, a reference to 65dos? Haha.
Bruno Billis. Hmmm I wonder if there is any relation to Bruce Willis?
a notice period? no there isn't, the only time you really need to bother with a notice is if you might come crawling back to that job.