Is everyone in the audience an idiot..? In the reenactment, the guy was controlling her diet, getting in her face, controlling her social life, demanding that she answer to his every call... All this is abuse, abuse doesn't begin and end with the physical stuff.
The first girl started the fights by pushing him and kicking him in the stomach, she's in the wrong just like him. You don't hit or kick the people you "love", this is true for both genders.
***** You're a moron, as is anyone who thinks it's perfectly acceptable for a woman to hit a man she supposedly "loves". And you can bet your ass that, regardless of size, if someone hits you in the face- it HURTS. A, 80 lb girl can break a 200 lb man's nose, no problem. I've seen it done. You sound like one of the "fucktards" that use violence because you don't have the vocabulary to get a point across.
***** It has nothing to do with who is stronger and who is weaker. And people really need to stop having that mind set. Look at it a different way. Look at it in a way of showing respect for the partner. If the man goes out of his way to respect you, to not hurt or harm the girl any way shape or form. Don't you think he deserves the same respect? Weather he be stronger or not? If he respects her space, she needs to respect his. I mean with your logic you are basically saying '' I am weaker and you are stronger so THEREFOR you don't deserve my respect as a partner to give you your space and not try to harm you'' It doesn't have to do with who is stronger and weaker. It has to do with respect for your partner. They are both in the wrong in this episode. Me personally I feel who ever crossed the line and took advantage of that respect first ( girl or boy) you leave them.
Peter Eli here's a small brief version of what I read (I read different articles involving the topic years ago, but I cant remember the sites, sorry) blogs.discovermagazine.com/seriouslyscience/2013/07/24/people-prefer-mates-with-a-22-resemblance-to-themselves/#.VSzDDKMpDJs
He hit her, thats plain wrong.. But the fact that she also hits him and that its overlooked is just disgusting. Hitting someone is plain wrong wether you are a female or a male.
AMEN! I AGREE WITH YOU AND NO ONE SHOULD MAKE ANY EXCUSES FOR ANYONE! I'M JUST SAYING IF ANYONE MAKES EXCUSES FOR THEIR ABUSERS THEY USUALLY END UP DEAD! I'm not saying it's right or it's wrong though
Yes!!! Because it's called REACTIVE ABUSE. Meaning when you are in a relationship and being abused you do one of two things. You either run and hide immediately turn into fight or flight response. And you take flight or you FIGHT! The reason why it's overlooked is because it's a fuckin response to him HITTING HER! Meaning that her immediate response to anger is not abuse it's a response to defend herself in the middle of it. Use common fuckin sense.
That boy Edwin was raised in a house with physical violence and when his girlfriend hits him that can trigger a humiliation from childhood that causes rage and the fact Tyra COMPLETELY overlooks that his girlfriend does that is disgraceful. Then telling him patronisingly 'you have some heart' he's an abused child with no nourishment of love from healthy family relationships. Hope he gets the right help.
Both people are in the wrong here, not just the guy. I hate it how they make the girl out to be the innocent angel and the guy to be the spawn of Satan when they are both clearly in the wrong. Yes, men should not hit women. But women should also not abuse and mistreat men either. If you are in a relationship, you need to have a clear line of communication between both people. Physically acting out is a clear sign that the people aren't communicating properly. But I really don't like how they blamed the guy for everything when it was clearly the fault of both people. Treat each other with respect and then you won't have this problem! It's not rocket science people!
+Blood Doll i dont think saying a guy shouldnt put his hands on a girl is making out that the girls are angels, they didnt blame the guys for everything just what they actually did. #notfeminism #juststupidity
I don't like how Tyra was only schooling Edwin when she should be schooling BOTH of them that touching each other in a non-caring way is wrong. "You never put your hands on a woman. Never, never never." Well, duh! And she shouldn't be putting her hands on him! She never talked to the girlfriend about her behavior as much as she talked to Edwin. I don't care if he abused her more. Both of them should have been talked to because she said that they both put their hands on each other.
Lola Smith But she said that they both put their hands on eachother. Tyra should have talked to both of them because they both admitted to being violent.
The audience that answered the questions about abuse pissed me off so much. Of course its abuse, its all abuse, you dont need to yank someones hair to call it abuse.
Thank you.. I'm not saying she doesn't get abused but sometimes people need to shine the light on the fact that women abuse men or provoke them sometimes then when they react people wanna blame everything on the man. No one deserves to be beat nor harassed so men stop hitting women and women stop provoking and hitting men!
No way should a man punch a woman if he was unprovoked. But there is a reason behind everything. Sometimes when I see these chicks I am genuinely not surprised.
I mean if she knows how he is maybe she shouldn't keep at it with him arguing with him just stop. I'm a girl and I'm with you on this some girls don't know when to stop.
My boyfriend hit me in the teeth accidentally when he was trying to get me to smell a candle and almost cried because he felt so bad. I can't imagine staying with anyone like that, I had a best friend who slapped me across the face and I was fucking GONE that friendship was over!
Yeah, but that's not the same thing, you obviously wasn't in love with your friend. And these men manipulate theese women to stay with them, and they're scared to leave them because if they do they can get seriously hurt, so you can't compare it like that
Abusive friendships can be just as dangerous, she threatened to kill my dog or cat if I stopped talking to her, she made sure I was alienated at school and she held a lot of power over me because she was more popular. She DID try to manipulate me to stay her friend by using threats and sobbing constantly at school to make me feel bad and appear to be the guilty one. It may not seem serious to you but it was very real and very serious to me. She did attack my dog while I was camping luckily my neighbor was home to scare her away. I had no friends for months on end and she lied and told everyone I somehow split my own lip and it wasn't her. She took pictures of me changing during a sleepover and I didn't know and she'd say thinks like "If you ever stop hanging out with me your ass will be plastered all over facebook". It was the same cycle of abuse just a middle school version plus I was suicidal. so think whatever you want but it was serious to me and I DID love her like a sister, the sister I'd always wanted. I still miss her sometimes as fucked up as that is.
KaylaNoelle1 Oh wow, ok well i didn't know that cause all you said was that she slapped you in the face, and that isn't as serious as theese womens situations, if you would have told your whole story from the beginning i would have understood. I'm sorry for your waste of time with this "friend" she seems like she need some serious help!
When I was 13 my first relationship became abusive. I told my parents but because my father is a big name in the small town where we lived, they didn't want the word to get out that their perfect little princess daughter had anything but the perfect life, (my father was the mayor and on the Board of Education, ironic I know), so my parents ignored it and hoped it would go away. You have to understand that my family didn't care what happened behind closed doors, it was only important what the neighbors thought. I ended up running away, falling into a really bad crowd and swallowing my pain with alcohol and pills. I got married at 18 to a guy I barely knew so I could get a roof over my head. My husband cheated and started being abusive after less than a year of marriage. I ended up divorcing him, back on the street. I ended up striping at a club just to put food in my mouth. And in all of the places to find hope, you'd think that a strip club would be the LAST place you'd find it. One day a young man walked in pushing an older man in a wheelchair. I went over to talk to them, as we were expected to. The older man was a pervy old coot but the younger guy, his caregiver, avoided looking at the stage, when the girls would dance he'd turn his chair to face away so he could see. That young caregiver and his patient initially started coming there only because the old man wanted to come but as the caregiver and I talked more we forged a true friendship and as his client sat there ogling the girls, the young caregiver and I would sit in the corner talking about life, all the things I had been through, what authors we liked, etc. etc. He eventually helped me get another job to get me out of the club, he said "The first time I met you, I knew you were different. You were dancing because of pain, because you felt worthless. But I knew you were just hurting and needed someone to show you that you were worth it." That caregiver and I were friends for a long time, I tried him, I put that man through some serious grief and tested him to make sure he wasn't like all the rest. After a year and a half of being out of the club, I finally said yes to marrying him. Sometimes like works in mysterious ways and you find love when you least expect it. After 3 years of marriage wouldn't you know it, I was diagnosed with a rare connective tissue disease and became bed bound. It was at if God knew I'd need a caregiver and so he sent me one when my life seemed hopeless. Brian has loved me through every second of this debilitating disease. We've been married now for five years, two of which I've been stuck in this bed...and yet he still stays, takes me to every doctor's appointment, cleans the house, feeds me but most importantly he loves me just as much as the day he married me, regardless of the illness. I never could have asked for a better husband, ever. He loves me through the physical pain now, just as he loved me through the mental pain years ago. There's still times I feel like I don't deserve him because of my past but he reminds me what he told me a long time ago, that I am worth it.
Sidra Hossain Thanks for your kindness. :) Upon going back and reading over my original post, I realized that I never explain the prognosis of my illness. I will unfortunately most likely continue to be bed bound for the rest of my life. My illness has a very slow progression so we are hopeful that I will live to my 40s or 50s (I'm 29 at the moment) but my disease tends to effect everyone who has it a little differently, so some people who have it can live fairly normally until they're older, while others, like myself, become completely disabled in their 20s. The disease is called Ehlers Danlos Syndrome Hypermobility Type with Vascular Crossover. Essentially it causes the "glue" in my body's cells to be too stretchy, so it makes everything in my body to become too stretchy including my skin, blood vessels, organs, pretty much everything. Where this becomes very dangerous is in the blood vessels. Because my vessels are so stretchy, it makes them weak so there's a chance I can have an aneurysm. I have to go every six months and have a full body scan looking for them. So far so good, but I could get one at any time, at any age. It also effect my blood pressure. Because my vessels are strechy, when I stand up from a sitting position, my blood goes with gravity away from my heart and because the vessel's integrity isn't what it should be it can't hold up to the pressure so my blood goes to my legs, away from my brain, and I faint nearly every time I stand. It's called Postural Orthostatic Tachycardic Syndrome which is a sort of sister diagnosis that tends to go with EDS. I also have dysautonomia, which is another sister disease that tends to go with EDS as well. The dysautonomia causes issues with my heart rate, blood pressure, body temperature regulation, anything that your body does for you automatically without you having to think about it. It's a rather complicated disease, and rather rare so there's not a lot of funding to look for a diagnosis. It's a genetic disease, so my hubby and I are looking for a good genetic specialist atm. But as for now I'm maintaining the state I'm in, or at least trying to. I live most of my life online and am stuck in bed while Brian goes to work. Because I faint every time I stand up I can't get up at all unless he's here to help me.
Diagnosis Countdown Omg, so sweet and sad! Almost cried, didn't bc I'm in a waiting room, hang in there, love the fullest, love the hardest, and be the strongest.
The last thing Tyra said was “ there are 2 sides to a story”. Who cares about sides!!! There’s no excuses/reasons for abuse. She didn’t mean to send out that message but that’s why I’m against talk shows who take on these big issues and have no background is psychology.
Sexism at it's finest. At the very beginning, it started with 'they both hurt each other' and, just minutes later, it was 'YOU the MALE are the ABUSER'. Shame on Tyra
Shut up. No man should ever put his hands on a female. He’s physically stronger than her. Im more mad at her momma because if someone hit my daughter I would be put under the jail. My mother would never
My brother was a victim of abuse from his girlfriend, women abuse too and I think its so often overlooked by everyone just because a man is typically larger. And trust me, he isn't very small, but she mad him bleed like it was nothing.
This is when I step in as a sister, cousin, or friend.. I’ve watched men walking away while taking blows to the face from the back.. It’s crazy and I’m not with it.. I don’t mind letting them know if it comes to that the men in my life don’t have to hit you because I will 🤣💯
It's sad seeing a lot of comments on this video like, "Oh, why would you stay with someone who abuses you?" A lot of people are scared to leave, whether it be of their abuser or of losing friends or of admitting they're being abused. And then look at the girls in the audience, who didn't think the scenes were abusive simply because the guy didn't put his hands on the girl or who didn't think anything of the hair pulling or him jerking her back. I wanted to rip out my hair and scream at them, because come on! That is not just an argument. That is fucking abuse or the start of abuse. And I say that as a survivor of emotional and verbal abuse in a relationship. My ex was horrid to me, and very controlling and possessive. I could only have friends that he approved of (he even snapped at me multiple times for hanging around a gay guy), I couldn't go anywhere without him accusing me of cheating on him, he'd chase away guys that I might be interested in while I was single, he'd coerce me into cheating on guys I with, I would use my best friend to go around my dad's back just to be with him, and I didn't even realize it, and was with him for about 3 or 4 years off and on. It wasn't until I tried to commit suicide because of him that one of my friends pointed out signs of an abusive relationship to me. And by saying, "Oh they're dumb for staying with them after being hit," you're only making the abusers validated in their actions. And I'm not gonna respond to idiots who respond to this because I'm dealing with dumbasses.
everyone says they would never stick around for something like that. they would never let a man put a hand on them. trust me I use to say it too, but until you are the one in that dreadful situation you can never say exactly what you would do. stupidly I stay with a guy for far too long. although it was enough time for him to beat me tear me down and put me in the hospital. but to all you ladies out there who have been through it and came out on top or to those ladies who are tragically going through it now. Know your worth and know that no one gets to treat you like that because you deserve better. stay strong ladies
I don't understand why they need to go to a TV show for this? lmao. If my boyfriend punched me, I would have left from the moment and called the police.
Nobody knows how they would react until it happens. Usually by the time the physical abuse starts, the abuser has already knocked the victim's self esteem down so much that they don't leave or feel like they can't leave.
The last thing Tyra said was “ there are 2 sides to a story”. Who cares about sides!!! There’s no excuses/reasons for abuse. She didn’t mean to send out that message but that’s why I’m against talk shows who take on these big issues and have no background is psychology.
She was abusing him too. Call them both out! Equal rights. No man should put his hands on a woman. No woman should put her hands on a man. No man should put his hands on another man. No woman should put her hands on another woman.
And I love how they only pick on the guy like yes it was wrong but tell the girl to use her words and not place her hands on him like women forget that just because there is a bad morale thing around hitting a women that they are invincible respect goes both ways
I've been with my boyfriend for three years and like regular couples we have arguments but he never laid hands on me . We both are 18 but he's more of a man than any man I know . He knows how to treat females and I couldn't be more grateful for him.
Omg this makes me so angry, like she is abusive to him too? As far as feminism goes I don't understand why women are giving themselves a free pass for hurting a man merely because they are female, so ironic how we finally have more equality and now we manipulate it so we can hurt men? We are equal, you abuse someone you need to be prepared for them to DEFEND themselves. They both need help. Feminism is to create equality, not to create a hierarchy again from the opposing standpoint. I should verify I am not defending his actions, just as I am not defending her abusing him, they need help as a couple and he does not need to be the main receptor for the host and others attacks, they both do.
Yeah, Tyra made me mad at the faact that she only blamed the boy when the girl is also abusive. I would like to call myself a feminist but this is wrong :(
She was though, they were both being mutually abusive. My point is that if she were abusive and he defends himself he will be considered an abuser, not her, the same would be if the scenario were reversed. She goes straight to accusing and condescending him, of course he abused her and that is disgusting but she is also abusive. Abuse is not merely violence physically but also verbally, he should not hit her, agreed, but she should not push or verbally abuse him either. What I mean by this is that I don't feel like this is fair to focus on the male abuser, because this happens far too often in our society.
I hate how Tyra always calls people out on her show and thinks shes a therapist of some sort. Shes never resolved the problems that were spoken about on her show, she only revealed them to the public and humiliated these terrible people even more.
Her job isn’t to resolve issues honestly she isn’t a therapist but she brings awareness out into the world. Her snow started conversation and led to many positive results within the community. We are in charge of or own actions, Tyra is just bringing awareness
The last thing Tyra said was “ there are 2 sides to a story”. Who cares about sides!!! There’s no excuses/reasons for abuse. She didn’t mean to send out that message but that’s why I’m against talk shows who take on these big issues and have no background is psychology.
With that first couple, I get that it's definitely not ok for him to punch or choke her, but let's not ignore that she admitted to pushing and kicking him too. They both have a problem with abusing each other. They both need help. A lot of times males get ostracized for being abusers, but we tend to forget that females fight and hurt just as badly. Sometimes we don't even have to make physical contact with someone to cause torment. In fact, women are known to be emotionally abusive where males are more physical. Abuse is abuse and it can cause a lot of sever damage no matter what format. A broken bone or a broken soul. It's not just men who abuse and it's not just women who are victims.
Tyra never says she’s a counselor or a mental health professional...that’s why I like Tyra. She’s blunt and gives advice and is a cut to the point type of woman. Always love Tyra.
The last thing Tyra said was “ there are 2 sides to a story”. Who cares about sides!!! There’s no excuses/reasons for abuse. She didn’t mean to send out that message but that’s why I’m against talk shows who take on these big issues and have no background is psychology.
This kinds of abuse usually happens because the relationship is too intimite too quickly. Soon enough they have become eachother's lives, and can not live with or without eachother. That is when you get so used to that person and so close, that it almost feels like a brother sister relationship, and we all know how easy you can fight with your siblings. The guy is explaining himself perfectly fine, he gets emotionally pushed over the limit. I have experienced that before. He is so in love with her and has such extreme emotions for her that if she talks down on him it hurts him ao much he can't control himself. Also the bucket is constantly full if you don't have alone time and the smallest remark, look or gesture can blow up their emotions. It is a pretty typical situation, most people don't let it get to that point that they would punch eachother though. Shitty situation indeed.
I was abused by a girl in my first relationship when i was 14. im a boy. she was, and still is, a textbook emotional abuser. She threatened to kill herself all the time, would get upset if i didnt answer her texts, blamed her suicidal tendencies on me, forced me to have sex with her, among other things. people blame me. i still cant get over it.
For those of you saying youd leave if you were ever hit just know that thats not the case.the first thing i told my abuser was you hit me ur done meaning wed be done,here i am 2 years later still stuck on emotions and trying to get away.Every case is different
For fucks sake, this actually pisses me off. I get that Edwin shouldn't hurt her, but I actually feels like she pushes him too much. In case anyone calls me a non feminist or whatever, I'm not saying it's just her fault, but there are too many of these advice show hosts that think with a one track mind. Tyra doesn't understand his point of view - he already said he tells her to leave him alone until he erupts. I hate yelling, but my mum loves pushing me to the point where I yell back, and then she shrinks and is like 'why are you doing this to me?' I feel like it's the same dynamic, except the physical part was an overreaction.
She wasn't excusing his actions-just stating the fact that they only talked about Edwin's overreactions. Edwin seriously needed help on fixing himself but so did she-if she knew he'd hit her why did she keep pushing his buttons and also don't forget that she also abused him-they could've discussed this (apparently).
I disagree that there's never a reason for a man to put his hands on a women, that's a really extreme blanket statement that portrays women as all harmless angels that can do no harm, and that's not the case AT ALL.
I think there should've been a greater focus on everyone's childhood. That is what sets the stage for these types of relationships 99% of the time. People from healthy families do not end up in situations like this and if by some fluke they do and they were scammed by someone who turned out to be trouble, they leave immediately because they don't have the tolerance level to deal with that type of drama on a consistent basis.
The only time my boyfriend hurt me was when I was falling because I slipped, I was about to fall on the TV and he tried to catch me, but slipped too and fell on me, in the wardrobe. It was fucking hilarious. I feel blessed to have a very loving, caring and gentle boyfriend.
It’s true what Tyra says I’ve been a victim of frowning up in an abusive home an I realise I’ve been an abuser to my girls also not intentionally an I’ve been with abusers. After what I’ve been through I’m not gonna allow anyone interfering with my two daughters. Being in a toxic relationship is very hard to escape. You have to fight ten times harder to escape.
can totally relate to some of these stories. i was with my abusive ex for 9 months, however the abuse was verbal and emotional not physical. the day he turned up outside my best friends house and when he grabbed my wrists amd wouldnt let go was when i knew that it was over and i ended it there and then. sadly took me months to see what my best friend was trying to tell me...
I find it hard to believe these are real stories and real victims, for the simple fact that abusive boyfriends would never allow their girl to come out about their abuse on national TV... most girls in abusive relationships are too afraid or embarrassed to tell even their closest friends and family. no way they'd be willing to tell the world. and if their bf has any control of them, which most abusive bf's do, they wouldn't let it happen. maybe AFTER the fact, after they break up... then I could believe it. but not while they're still together and still being abused.
Pastiche Grizzly oh I know. had to take a class in school about abuse. its not just physical, but more so verbal a mental. these types of things can really affect people, male or female. it shocked me that so many people don't realize how bad this is and that it's not just physical. Lord help this nation
I had an EX who hit me, I left him and then He had another Girl then Hit her too. One day he went to Jail because he hit someone else outside the relationship, he was bailed out by some stupid friend. Went to jail again for stealing & Battery got bailed out again by the same stupid friend. The 3rd time he was out he finally killed someone by stabbing the victim. This time he went to Prison for Life. Couple of Weeks ago he was killed inside Prison by his Prison Mate yep you guessed it by Stabbing. There is a saying "What goes around comes around". The worse thing about this story is that this guy I used to Love died alone. None of his Family want to have anything to do with him. His other Ex is now married and Happy with a child. As for me I am in a better place. As for that stupid friend who kept bailing him out HE lost his business. All the years he wasted while hurting people moved on and have families while he rots in Prison with no Visitation.
Why is SHE hitting HIM? What gives her the right to hit HIM? It goes both ways. He shouldn't be singled out if she's doing the same damn thing to him and initiating it.
Edwin and Leighann look like brother and sister.Not just because their skin tone,but they have similar features.But they say you pick someone who resembles you,but subconsciously.
Everyone is talking about men hitting women but I think that the only time ANYONE is allowed to hit ANYONE is in self defense. It doesn’t matter if it’s man on man woman on woman or a man hitting a woman or a woman hitting a man
Wow, those young women in the audience could not be any more clueless. So, abuse only entails physical force? They are completely wrong. They seriously need to learn that there are different kinds of abuse. Verbal abuse IS abuse, and can escalate to physical abuse. Verbal mistreatment can destroy the confidence of an individual, and once the physical violence comes in, the victim will most likely be in such a state of weakness that he or she will be even less likely to leave the abuser. Sorry for the essay. Those girls just really pissed me off with their ignorance. -_-
I was in the same situation not as a teenager but when I was in my early 20s. It started out with him pushing me then it escalated to him punching me and choking me. I was lucky enough to get out of that controlling relationship and I'm so grateful I did. Abuse is wrong doesn't matter if your a female or male never hit anyone you say your in love with.
aimeek1236 oh okayy. I was wondering that this entire time. When he said she hits him. I didn't understand if it was hitting him cause she has anger issues too or what
I have a huge self esteem. and i can take wtvr my bf does to me, as i love him. and i want him to mold to be a better person. and yes its hard to leave. but once he hits u, or cheats on u, thats a line that he crossed. i can take anything from a partner, but those 2, nope. im out. have more self dignity girls. be proud of the person you are today. your future depends on it.
A lot of ghetto, young people have kids really young. I am not saying that is okay, but it is kind of reality for a lot of kids growing up in the ghetto. I know this because I noticed this growing up in the ghetto.
They were both in the wrong. Clearly, he has issues, but so does she. Yes, men are proven to be generally stronger than women. But there are so many cases of domestic violence that comes from the woman to the man and that gets no where near as much attention as when a man abuses a woman. It's a double standard and she should have gotten taught about how to behave too. They were both fighting. It takes two
P.S sorry if my grammar is not correct ,English is not my native language I do not understand why her mother did not act, that girl is a minor and her mother should protect her... if I had a girl and that boy hither in the face four times that guy would be in jail, not on a sofa in a TV show
I just lost a lot of respect for Tyra, it's not that men shouldn't lay their hands on women ever. I don't care what sex it is, if it attacks me I will defend and disable it. I don't care if I can't tell what sex it is. If it attacks like an animal it will be treated like one. We are humans , we have the ability to make decisions in situations. What's between your legs doesn't make you a victim.
pandac0ffee the admitted in the beginning that she causes the fights sometimes...i believe him too..i dont understand why he wont leave...all he has to do is walk away from her and the abuse stops...its not always the boy/man...women too often times hit and get in their faces...a man is a man..all day, every day...if people know how to get under their partner/girlfriend/boyfriend skin..they know what to do to set them off...if he knows this what she does, he should leave cause she dont seem like shes going anywhere...whos to say she dont find this kind of behaivor "normal"...she hits him also, so its not just him.
-because of women confuse love for ass beatings, then they involve all their friends and family & bring down everybody else around them for some loser bad boy type... unless the women is desperately trying to get a way and cuts off all ties with him his friends & family its pointless....best advice is to stay as far away from her crazy life as possible ...maybe your a women who has self esteem thats why you dont understand this...
pandac0ffee It is the problem... I mean she has to know she does not deserve to be hit, she has to have self respect.... You argue because you have a different opinion... but you never hit, throw punches... it's a relationship.. people should build something together not hurt each-other... fiscally :) I think boy or girl all should find somebody that respects them and that make them be better... and not stay in an abusive relationship... because they can do much better... the abusive ones have a problem and they should go to therapy and find equilibrium :)
it's funny a lot of people know the signs of abuse... they allow it. I've allow it to happen one day I went to school and told my teacher about my father putting me through a wall :(
Domestic violence is wrong but at the same time it's hard to sympathize with girls or women that continue to stay or date other guys like this. Sometimes victim hood is a choice. Treat a woman like a queen she'll leave, treat her like trash she'll love you for life.
The point that some people miss is some females will intentionally start shit then play victim he has a problem but guess what she does too so that type of behavior goes both ways
You people don't understand you think it's so easy to leave. It's not. I was in a abusive relationship and those are very hard to get away from it. My ex use to pull me by my hair and punch me in the face and slap me and then I tried to leave but I thought I loved him and I thought he loved me but you know it's still going on. He still won't be leaving me alone. People need to stop saying "oh just leave him" you can't get away from it that easy.
This show is very one-sided women are equally as violent as men can be just aren't as strong it's not pretend female on male violence in relationships does not exist
"my girl friend is my angel" I will only cry and talk like I always do to God to show that I don't like the situation we are in so, guys please don't rush in to relationships pray and God will give you one of his angles to love you in and out. i know is not easy but first keep your body pure and someone pure will come "with a big smile (-_-) I know everything will be fine"
K tons of these female audience members were really oblivious to abuse. In the video he called her an idiot and fat and that girl called it an “argument” smh
love is not beating the fuck out of someone. im 41 and some of you kids really need to understand that before your parents wind up going to your grave and im not saying that to be mean but damn....
How her mom could sit there, quietly crying and not jump on top of this guy is beyond me.
Dido....If this had been my child and the abuser was right there this would turn into VERY ARRESTING episode of COPS real quick!!!
I know Agreed
Is everyone in the audience an idiot..? In the reenactment, the guy was controlling her diet, getting in her face, controlling her social life, demanding that she answer to his every call... All this is abuse, abuse doesn't begin and end with the physical stuff.
Right omg I was thinking the same thing. Some girls would reply saying stuff like "no it wasn't abuse" like shut the hell up
I think they were planted in there. I don't think they were real audience members.
I felt the exact same way
i know right??! defo absuive in every senario. never be with a controlling person
True. I was thinking the same thing.
The first girl started the fights by pushing him and kicking him in the stomach, she's in the wrong just like him. You don't hit or kick the people you "love", this is true for both genders.
THANK YOU!!!
***** if a body builder girl hits a scrawny nerd, that's not the case.
Wow so much aggression in one comment. You might wanna get that anger checked out.
***** You're a moron, as is anyone who thinks it's perfectly acceptable for a woman to hit a man she supposedly "loves". And you can bet your ass that, regardless of size, if someone hits you in the face- it HURTS. A, 80 lb girl can break a 200 lb man's nose, no problem. I've seen it done. You sound like one of the "fucktards" that use violence because you don't have the vocabulary to get a point across.
***** It has nothing to do with who is stronger and who is weaker. And people really need to stop having that mind set. Look at it a different way. Look at it in a way of showing respect for the partner. If the man goes out of his way to respect you, to not hurt or harm the girl any way shape or form. Don't you think he deserves the same respect? Weather he be stronger or not? If he respects her space, she needs to respect his. I mean with your logic you are basically saying '' I am weaker and you are stronger so THEREFOR you don't deserve my respect as a partner to give you your space and not try to harm you'' It doesn't have to do with who is stronger and weaker. It has to do with respect for your partner. They are both in the wrong in this episode. Me personally I feel who ever crossed the line and took advantage of that respect first ( girl or boy) you leave them.
yup this generation needs The Tyra Show
Ain't that the truth. Cause theses days some children are not told the dangers that are out their and how to handle them in a mature way.
I loved her show, watched it daily.. It was and still is needed..
edwin and leighann look like brother and sister
haha I thought the same
they say people pick partners than most resemble them...subconsciously.
@yoyo: they aren't even Mexican, wtf dumbass.
Peter Eli here's a small brief version of what I read (I read different articles involving the topic years ago, but I cant remember the sites, sorry)
blogs.discovermagazine.com/seriouslyscience/2013/07/24/people-prefer-mates-with-a-22-resemblance-to-themselves/#.VSzDDKMpDJs
Lexi Parisi I thought I was the only one who noticed that.
He hit her, thats plain wrong.. But the fact that she also hits him and that its overlooked is just disgusting. Hitting someone is plain wrong wether you are a female or a male.
AMEN! I AGREE WITH YOU AND NO ONE SHOULD MAKE ANY EXCUSES FOR ANYONE! I'M JUST SAYING IF ANYONE MAKES EXCUSES FOR THEIR ABUSERS THEY USUALLY END UP DEAD! I'm not saying it's right or it's wrong though
Yes!!! Because it's called REACTIVE ABUSE. Meaning when you are in a relationship and being abused you do one of two things. You either run and hide immediately turn into fight or flight response. And you take flight or you FIGHT! The reason why it's overlooked is because it's a fuckin response to him HITTING HER! Meaning that her immediate response to anger is not abuse it's a response to defend herself in the middle of it. Use common fuckin sense.
THANK YOU THIS SHIT IS BIASED ASF
That boy Edwin was raised in a house with physical violence and when his girlfriend hits him that can trigger a humiliation from childhood that causes rage and the fact Tyra COMPLETELY overlooks that his girlfriend does that is disgraceful. Then telling him patronisingly 'you have some heart' he's an abused child with no nourishment of love from healthy family relationships. Hope he gets the right help.
Agreed
I agree he needs to leave that girl ...
+Sinead Curran and that's who's fault? these little assholes need to stop beating on other people's daughters I would put these pieces of shit in JAIL
+g diamond that is true
+g diamond true he has a choice but if you can't address that she's doing it also to him then that's a double standard
Both people are in the wrong here, not just the guy. I hate it how they make the girl out to be the innocent angel and the guy to be the spawn of Satan when they are both clearly in the wrong. Yes, men should not hit women. But women should also not abuse and mistreat men either. If you are in a relationship, you need to have a clear line of communication between both people. Physically acting out is a clear sign that the people aren't communicating properly. But I really don't like how they blamed the guy for everything when it was clearly the fault of both people. Treat each other with respect and then you won't have this problem! It's not rocket science people!
Feminism
Natalie Pinegreen It's called sexism
This is why we need feminism. You made a great point
+Blood Doll i dont think saying a guy shouldnt put his hands on a girl is making out that the girls are angels, they didnt blame the guys for everything just what they actually did. #notfeminism #juststupidity
i agree 100%.
"she went to the store with him. she should just be with him." she's not allowed to have friends??? that's a form of abuse too.
Verbal abuse IS abuse and manipulation is a tactic used by abusers. Just because no one is being hit doesn't mean it's not abuse.
I agree. Emotional abuse is just as serious.
Correct. Tone, everything
I don't like how Tyra was only schooling Edwin when she should be schooling BOTH of them that touching each other in a non-caring way is wrong.
"You never put your hands on a woman. Never, never never."
Well, duh! And she shouldn't be putting her hands on him! She never talked to the girlfriend about her behavior as much as she talked to Edwin. I don't care if he abused her more. Both of them should have been talked to because she said that they both put their hands on each other.
+Breanna Baozi I was thinking the exact same
+Breanna Baozi Double standards
+Breanna Baozi I would like this a hundred times if I could
+Breanna Bunny He can obviously potentially do more damage to her than she can to him. Perhaps that's why.
Lola Smith But she said that they both put their hands on eachother. Tyra should have talked to both of them because they both admitted to being violent.
The audience that answered the questions about abuse pissed me off so much. Of course its abuse, its all abuse, you dont need to yank someones hair to call it abuse.
why is she only calling him an abuser if she does it too? wtf. Tyra, women abuse men as well. In this situation they both do it.
Thank you.. I'm not saying she doesn't get abused but sometimes people need to shine the light on the fact that women abuse men or provoke them sometimes then when they react people wanna blame everything on the man. No one deserves to be beat nor harassed so men stop hitting women and women stop provoking and hitting men!
No way should a man punch a woman if he was unprovoked. But there is a reason behind everything. Sometimes when I see these chicks I am genuinely not surprised.
I thought I was the only one who saw that! Smh...they are both in the wrong!
Yup some one us ladies do
I mean if she knows how he is maybe she shouldn't keep at it with him arguing with him just stop. I'm a girl and I'm with you on this some girls don't know when to stop.
It's quite disappointing how ignorant the crowd was.
My boyfriend hit me in the teeth accidentally when he was trying to get me to smell a candle and almost cried because he felt so bad. I can't imagine staying with anyone like that, I had a best friend who slapped me across the face and I was fucking GONE that friendship was over!
Preach 🙏
Yeah, but that's not the same thing, you obviously wasn't in love with your friend. And these men manipulate theese women to stay with them, and they're scared to leave them because if they do they can get seriously hurt, so you can't compare it like that
Abusive friendships can be just as dangerous, she threatened to kill my dog or cat if I stopped talking to her, she made sure I was alienated at school and she held a lot of power over me because she was more popular. She DID try to manipulate me to stay her friend by using threats and sobbing constantly at school to make me feel bad and appear to be the guilty one. It may not seem serious to you but it was very real and very serious to me. She did attack my dog while I was camping luckily my neighbor was home to scare her away. I had no friends for months on end and she lied and told everyone I somehow split my own lip and it wasn't her. She took pictures of me changing during a sleepover and I didn't know and she'd say thinks like "If you ever stop hanging out with me your ass will be plastered all over facebook". It was the same cycle of abuse just a middle school version plus I was suicidal. so think whatever you want but it was serious to me and I DID love her like a sister, the sister I'd always wanted. I still miss her sometimes as fucked up as that is.
KaylaNoelle1 Oh wow, ok well i didn't know that cause all you said was that she slapped you in the face, and that isn't as serious as theese womens situations, if you would have told your whole story from the beginning i would have understood. I'm sorry for your waste of time with this "friend" she seems like she need some serious help!
yeah she has issues
When I was 13 my first relationship became abusive. I told my parents but because my father is a big name in the small town where we lived, they didn't want the word to get out that their perfect little princess daughter had anything but the perfect life, (my father was the mayor and on the Board of Education, ironic I know), so my parents ignored it and hoped it would go away. You have to understand that my family didn't care what happened behind closed doors, it was only important what the neighbors thought. I ended up running away, falling into a really bad crowd and swallowing my pain with alcohol and pills. I got married at 18 to a guy I barely knew so I could get a roof over my head. My husband cheated and started being abusive after less than a year of marriage. I ended up divorcing him, back on the street. I ended up striping at a club just to put food in my mouth. And in all of the places to find hope, you'd think that a strip club would be the LAST place you'd find it. One day a young man walked in pushing an older man in a wheelchair. I went over to talk to them, as we were expected to. The older man was a pervy old coot but the younger guy, his caregiver, avoided looking at the stage, when the girls would dance he'd turn his chair to face away so he could see. That young caregiver and his patient initially started coming there only because the old man wanted to come but as the caregiver and I talked more we forged a true friendship and as his client sat there ogling the girls, the young caregiver and I would sit in the corner talking about life, all the things I had been through, what authors we liked, etc. etc. He eventually helped me get another job to get me out of the club, he said "The first time I met you, I knew you were different. You were dancing because of pain, because you felt worthless. But I knew you were just hurting and needed someone to show you that you were worth it." That caregiver and I were friends for a long time, I tried him, I put that man through some serious grief and tested him to make sure he wasn't like all the rest. After a year and a half of being out of the club, I finally said yes to marrying him. Sometimes like works in mysterious ways and you find love when you least expect it. After 3 years of marriage wouldn't you know it, I was diagnosed with a rare connective tissue disease and became bed bound. It was at if God knew I'd need a caregiver and so he sent me one when my life seemed hopeless. Brian has loved me through every second of this debilitating disease. We've been married now for five years, two of which I've been stuck in this bed...and yet he still stays, takes me to every doctor's appointment, cleans the house, feeds me but most importantly he loves me just as much as the day he married me, regardless of the illness. I never could have asked for a better husband, ever. He loves me through the physical pain now, just as he loved me through the mental pain years ago. There's still times I feel like I don't deserve him because of my past but he reminds me what he told me a long time ago, that I am worth it.
Diagnosis Countdown
So happy for you! I hope you are able to overcome your illness and you amd hubby are blessed with a beautiful life together xo
Sidra Hossain Thanks for your kindness. :) Upon going back and reading over my original post, I realized that I never explain the prognosis of my illness. I will unfortunately most likely continue to be bed bound for the rest of my life. My illness has a very slow progression so we are hopeful that I will live to my 40s or 50s (I'm 29 at the moment) but my disease tends to effect everyone who has it a little differently, so some people who have it can live fairly normally until they're older, while others, like myself, become completely disabled in their 20s. The disease is called Ehlers Danlos Syndrome Hypermobility Type with Vascular Crossover. Essentially it causes the "glue" in my body's cells to be too stretchy, so it makes everything in my body to become too stretchy including my skin, blood vessels, organs, pretty much everything. Where this becomes very dangerous is in the blood vessels. Because my vessels are so stretchy, it makes them weak so there's a chance I can have an aneurysm. I have to go every six months and have a full body scan looking for them. So far so good, but I could get one at any time, at any age. It also effect my blood pressure. Because my vessels are strechy, when I stand up from a sitting position, my blood goes with gravity away from my heart and because the vessel's integrity isn't what it should be it can't hold up to the pressure so my blood goes to my legs, away from my brain, and I faint nearly every time I stand. It's called Postural Orthostatic Tachycardic Syndrome which is a sort of sister diagnosis that tends to go with EDS. I also have dysautonomia, which is another sister disease that tends to go with EDS as well. The dysautonomia causes issues with my heart rate, blood pressure, body temperature regulation, anything that your body does for you automatically without you having to think about it. It's a rather complicated disease, and rather rare so there's not a lot of funding to look for a diagnosis. It's a genetic disease, so my hubby and I are looking for a good genetic specialist atm. But as for now I'm maintaining the state I'm in, or at least trying to. I live most of my life online and am stuck in bed while Brian goes to work. Because I faint every time I stand up I can't get up at all unless he's here to help me.
Diagnosis Countdown gosh this sounds like a lifetime movie😨... I wish nothing but continuous peace and prosperity in your life.
Diagnosis Countdown Omg, so sweet and sad! Almost cried, didn't bc I'm in a waiting room, hang in there, love the fullest, love the hardest, and be the strongest.
Tyra's belt is brighter than my future
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haha... sad. :c
lol, that was funny.
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It is never, NEVER acceptable to hit a woman. Ever.
Chat is a waste of time No one said it is. Just for some reason, the world sees a man hitting a woman worse.
Its very scary how all the teenage girls couldnt spot abuse and said it was just arguments. That really sad
Sometimes when Tyra talks I just get so irritated with her rationale and her delivery to her guests. Ugh, sometimes it's highly inappropriate.
The last thing Tyra said was “ there are 2 sides to a story”. Who cares about sides!!! There’s no excuses/reasons for abuse. She didn’t mean to send out that message but that’s why I’m against talk shows who take on these big issues and have no background is psychology.
Sexism at it's finest. At the very beginning, it started with 'they both hurt each other' and, just minutes later, it was 'YOU the MALE are the ABUSER'. Shame on Tyra
I agree. She annoys me at times.
Shut up. No man should ever put his hands on a female. He’s physically stronger than her. Im more mad at her momma because if someone hit my daughter I would be put under the jail. My mother would never
I hate the way he responded when Tyra said "what's your issue?" And he said "watchu mean"
ughhh come on tyra. Men get abused too!!
My brother was a victim of abuse from his girlfriend, women abuse too and I think its so often overlooked by everyone just because a man is typically larger. And trust me, he isn't very small, but she mad him bleed like it was nothing.
This is when I step in as a sister, cousin, or friend.. I’ve watched men walking away while taking blows to the face from the back.. It’s crazy and I’m not with it.. I don’t mind letting them know if it comes to that the men in my life don’t have to hit you because I will 🤣💯
Tyra: "Jennifer, you're crying."
Jennifer: "No, I'm peeing through my eyes."
dead!
I'm thankful my man doesn't even yell at me. If we fight and he gets angry he will just ignore me and walk away.
I am a woman and I don't always think it's right to blame the male. Some women can hurt a man more than he can hurt her. I think it goes both ways.
"I have a son to live for."
"Is it his baby?"
"No"
Me: DAFUQ?!
It's a strange coincidence that all the blood stained clothes were white
It's sad seeing a lot of comments on this video like, "Oh, why would you stay with someone who abuses you?" A lot of people are scared to leave, whether it be of their abuser or of losing friends or of admitting they're being abused. And then look at the girls in the audience, who didn't think the scenes were abusive simply because the guy didn't put his hands on the girl or who didn't think anything of the hair pulling or him jerking her back. I wanted to rip out my hair and scream at them, because come on! That is not just an argument. That is fucking abuse or the start of abuse. And I say that as a survivor of emotional and verbal abuse in a relationship. My ex was horrid to me, and very controlling and possessive. I could only have friends that he approved of (he even snapped at me multiple times for hanging around a gay guy), I couldn't go anywhere without him accusing me of cheating on him, he'd chase away guys that I might be interested in while I was single, he'd coerce me into cheating on guys I with, I would use my best friend to go around my dad's back just to be with him, and I didn't even realize it, and was with him for about 3 or 4 years off and on. It wasn't until I tried to commit suicide because of him that one of my friends pointed out signs of an abusive relationship to me. And by saying, "Oh they're dumb for staying with them after being hit," you're only making the abusers validated in their actions.
And I'm not gonna respond to idiots who respond to this because I'm dealing with dumbasses.
This is all very true
Sadly enough.
oh my god I'm appalled no one thought it was abusive though? Do people not understand that grabbing is not normal? It's abuse!
hurtanktedunu yea plus the verbal abuse!
it is, any form isn't love
everyone says they would never stick around for something like that. they would never let a man put a hand on them. trust me I use to say it too, but until you are the one in that dreadful situation you can never say exactly what you would do. stupidly I stay with a guy for far too long. although it was enough time for him to beat me tear me down and put me in the hospital. but to all you ladies out there who have been through it and came out on top or to those ladies who are tragically going through it now. Know your worth and know that no one gets to treat you like that because you deserve better.
stay strong ladies
I don't understand why they need to go to a TV show for this? lmao. If my boyfriend punched me, I would have left from the moment and called the police.
Okay duh not all women are emotionally strong enough to handle shit like that. There's a reason so many women put up with abuse
Nobody knows how they would react until it happens. Usually by the time the physical abuse starts, the abuser has already knocked the victim's self esteem down so much that they don't leave or feel like they can't leave.
+Victoria Morrisa exactly, emotional abuse is very powerful
Soooo, we're gonna deny the fact the girl hits him too?
I feel like all the abuse blaming is on the guy... like come'on now.
If she is hitting him all he has to do is call the cops and put her in jail. One person has to stop the violence and be the bigger person.
blahblahblah that's true but why do we always expect the guy to be the one to do it?
Nobody has the right to put there hands on others!
Am I the only one who noticed that there were a LOT of teen moms on this episode?
"Do you think you have a problem Edwin?"
"Nah I don't have an anger problem."
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The last thing Tyra said was “ there are 2 sides to a story”. Who cares about sides!!! There’s no excuses/reasons for abuse. She didn’t mean to send out that message but that’s why I’m against talk shows who take on these big issues and have no background is psychology.
She was abusing him too. Call them both out! Equal rights. No man should put his hands on a woman. No woman should put her hands on a man. No man should put his hands on another man. No woman should put her hands on another woman.
If you love someone you will never abuse the other whether it is physical, emotional, or verbally abusive is not right.
Thank god, I am ugly so I do not have to go thru this
I doubt that you're ugly (people are too judgemental of their own looks). But even "ugly" people get abused too
And I love how they only pick on the guy like yes it was wrong but tell the girl to use her words and not place her hands on him like women forget that just because there is a bad morale thing around hitting a women that they are invincible respect goes both ways
I've been with my boyfriend for three years and like regular couples we have arguments but he never laid hands on me . We both are 18 but he's more of a man than any man I know . He knows how to treat females and I couldn't be more grateful for him.
Tyra is right though about the “i’m done.” Every woman has a I’m done time when they are truly done.
Omg this makes me so angry, like she is abusive to him too? As far as feminism goes I don't understand why women are giving themselves a free pass for hurting a man merely because they are female, so ironic how we finally have more equality and now we manipulate it so we can hurt men? We are equal, you abuse someone you need to be prepared for them to DEFEND themselves. They both need help. Feminism is to create equality, not to create a hierarchy again from the opposing standpoint. I should verify I am not defending his actions, just as I am not defending her abusing him, they need help as a couple and he does not need to be the main receptor for the host and others attacks, they both do.
+Rebecca Lynch Still better off with feminism than without it. A few people will always get it wrong.
Yeah, Tyra made me mad at the faact that she only blamed the boy when the girl is also abusive. I would like to call myself a feminist but this is wrong :(
She was though, they were both being mutually abusive. My point is that if she were abusive and he defends himself he will be considered an abuser, not her, the same would be if the scenario were reversed. She goes straight to accusing and condescending him, of course he abused her and that is disgusting but she is also abusive. Abuse is not merely violence physically but also verbally, he should not hit her, agreed, but she should not push or verbally abuse him either. What I mean by this is that I don't feel like this is fair to focus on the male abuser, because this happens far too often in our society.
OMG preach that sense I hate how ppl make the male out 2 be the bad one when women can be just as abusive or worse as men
This case is something for Steve Wilkos Show and Dr. Phil.
I hate how Tyra always calls people out on her show and thinks shes a therapist of some sort. Shes never resolved the problems that were spoken about on her show, she only revealed them to the public and humiliated these terrible people even more.
Her job isn’t to resolve issues honestly she isn’t a therapist but she brings awareness out into the world. Her snow started conversation and led to many positive results within the community. We are in charge of or own actions, Tyra is just bringing awareness
The last thing Tyra said was “ there are 2 sides to a story”. Who cares about sides!!! There’s no excuses/reasons for abuse. She didn’t mean to send out that message but that’s why I’m against talk shows who take on these big issues and have no background is psychology.
i thought I died and was being accepted into heaven but i realized it was Tyra's belt
J Dawg 😂😂😂
With that first couple, I get that it's definitely not ok for him to punch or choke her, but let's not ignore that she admitted to pushing and kicking him too. They both have a problem with abusing each other. They both need help. A lot of times males get ostracized for being abusers, but we tend to forget that females fight and hurt just as badly. Sometimes we don't even have to make physical contact with someone to cause torment. In fact, women are known to be emotionally abusive where males are more physical. Abuse is abuse and it can cause a lot of sever damage no matter what format. A broken bone or a broken soul. It's not just men who abuse and it's not just women who are victims.
Tyra never says she’s a counselor or a mental health professional...that’s why I like Tyra. She’s blunt and gives advice and is a cut to the point type of woman. Always love Tyra.
The last thing Tyra said was “ there are 2 sides to a story”. Who cares about sides!!! There’s no excuses/reasons for abuse. She didn’t mean to send out that message but that’s why I’m against talk shows who take on these big issues and have no background is psychology.
This kinds of abuse usually happens because the relationship is too intimite too quickly. Soon enough they have become eachother's lives, and can not live with or without eachother. That is when you get so used to that person and so close, that it almost feels like a brother sister relationship, and we all know how easy you can fight with your siblings. The guy is explaining himself perfectly fine, he gets emotionally pushed over the limit. I have experienced that before. He is so in love with her and has such extreme emotions for her that if she talks down on him it hurts him ao much he can't control himself. Also the bucket is constantly full if you don't have alone time and the smallest remark, look or gesture can blow up their emotions. It is a pretty typical situation, most people don't let it get to that point that they would punch eachother though. Shitty situation indeed.
I was abused by a girl in my first relationship when i was 14. im a boy. she was, and still is, a textbook emotional abuser. She threatened to kill herself all the time, would get upset if i didnt answer her texts, blamed her suicidal tendencies on me, forced me to have sex with her, among other things. people blame me. i still cant get over it.
For those of you saying youd leave if you were ever hit just know that thats not the case.the first thing i told my abuser was you hit me ur done meaning wed be done,here i am 2 years later still stuck on emotions and trying to get away.Every case is different
For fucks sake, this actually pisses me off. I get that Edwin shouldn't hurt her, but I actually feels like she pushes him too much. In case anyone calls me a non feminist or whatever, I'm not saying it's just her fault, but there are too many of these advice show hosts that think with a one track mind. Tyra doesn't understand his point of view - he already said he tells her to leave him alone until he erupts.
I hate yelling, but my mum loves pushing me to the point where I yell back, and then she shrinks and is like 'why are you doing this to me?' I feel like it's the same dynamic, except the physical part was an overreaction.
Abuse is never the victim's fault.
She wasn't excusing his actions-just stating the fact that they only talked about Edwin's overreactions. Edwin seriously needed help on fixing himself but so did she-if she knew he'd hit her why did she keep pushing his buttons and also don't forget that she also abused him-they could've discussed this (apparently).
Even so that doesn’t give him the right to hit her.
Nobody changes... Quote him accurately Tyra! “Why did you make me do that?” was pretty fucked up for him to admit.
I disagree that there's never a reason for a man to put his hands on a women, that's a really extreme blanket statement that portrays women as all harmless angels that can do no harm, and that's not the case AT ALL.
I think there should've been a greater focus on everyone's childhood. That is what sets the stage for these types of relationships 99% of the time. People from healthy families do not end up in situations like this and if by some fluke they do and they were scammed by someone who turned out to be trouble, they leave immediately because they don't have the tolerance level to deal with that type of drama on a consistent basis.
The only time my boyfriend hurt me was when I was falling because I slipped, I was about to fall on the TV and he tried to catch me, but slipped too and fell on me, in the wardrobe. It was fucking hilarious. I feel blessed to have a very loving, caring and gentle boyfriend.
It’s true what Tyra says I’ve been a victim of frowning up in an abusive home an I realise I’ve been an abuser to my girls also not intentionally an I’ve been with abusers. After what I’ve been through I’m not gonna allow anyone interfering with my two daughters. Being in a toxic relationship is very hard to escape. You have to fight ten times harder to escape.
Any controlling behaviour is psychological abuse
I find it odd how they were all wearing white the day of the abuse
that's why I start to think its all staged, the stains don't even look like blood
Vanessa Carlos i know
***** I'm thinking maybe they bleached them? To see the stains better...
Jessica Marie my name is Jessica Marie
Jessica White What!? Small world haha
can totally relate to some of these stories. i was with my abusive ex for 9 months, however the abuse was verbal and emotional not physical. the day he turned up outside my best friends house and when he grabbed my wrists amd wouldnt let go was when i knew that it was over and i ended it there and then. sadly took me months to see what my best friend was trying to tell me...
I find it hard to believe these are real stories and real victims, for the simple fact that abusive boyfriends would never allow their girl to come out about their abuse on national TV... most girls in abusive relationships are too afraid or embarrassed to tell even their closest friends and family. no way they'd be willing to tell the world. and if their bf has any control of them, which most abusive bf's do, they wouldn't let it happen. maybe AFTER the fact, after they break up... then I could believe it. but not while they're still together and still being abused.
Geez man, I thought all of the acted out scenarios were abuse. Blows my mind most of the audience didn't think it was till he hit her.
Pastiche Grizzly oh I know. had to take a class in school about abuse. its not just physical, but more so verbal a mental. these types of things can really affect people, male or female. it shocked me that so many people don't realize how bad this is and that it's not just physical. Lord help this nation
I had an EX who hit me, I left him and then He had another Girl then Hit her too.
One day he went to Jail because he hit someone else outside the relationship, he was bailed out by some stupid friend. Went to jail again for stealing & Battery got bailed out again by the same stupid friend. The 3rd time he was out he finally killed someone by stabbing the victim. This time he went to Prison for Life. Couple of Weeks ago he was killed inside Prison by his Prison Mate yep you guessed it by Stabbing.
There is a saying "What goes around comes around".
The worse thing about this story is that this guy I used to Love died alone.
None of his Family want to have anything to do with him. His other Ex is now married and Happy with a child. As for me I am in a better place. As for that stupid friend who kept bailing him out HE lost his business.
All the years he wasted while hurting people moved on and have families while he rots in Prison with no Visitation.
Why is SHE hitting HIM? What gives her the right to hit HIM? It goes both ways. He shouldn't be singled out if she's doing the same damn thing to him and initiating it.
Edwin and Leighann look like brother and sister.Not just because their skin tone,but they have similar features.But they say you pick someone who resembles you,but subconsciously.
If my boyfriend ever puts his hands on me or calls me out my name, he's going to be 6 feet under.
Heaven S. Fr and the audience is fucking stupid
my Best Friend died Because of something fishy, from her "bf". Teen dating violence is real and can be deadly.
Men like him know who to beat. He wouldnt beat a confident secure woman cause she wouldn't even go on a second date with him!
Everyone is talking about men hitting women but I think that the only time ANYONE is allowed to hit ANYONE is in self defense. It doesn’t matter if it’s man on man woman on woman or a man hitting a woman or a woman hitting a man
I thought this was really bad then they were like SON. THEY HAVE A KID TOO?!
16 years, one baby and living like a 30 years couple...
Wow, those young women in the audience could not be any more clueless. So, abuse only entails physical force? They are completely wrong. They seriously need to learn that there are different kinds of abuse. Verbal abuse IS abuse, and can escalate to physical abuse. Verbal mistreatment can destroy the confidence of an individual, and once the physical violence comes in, the victim will most likely be in such a state of weakness that he or she will be even less likely to leave the abuser.
Sorry for the essay. Those girls just really pissed me off with their ignorance. -_-
I was in the same situation not as a teenager but when I was in my early 20s. It started out with him pushing me then it escalated to him punching me and choking me. I was lucky enough to get out of that controlling relationship and I'm so grateful I did. Abuse is wrong doesn't matter if your a female or male never hit anyone you say your in love with.
She hits him back because she has to defend herself. She wouldn't be doing it otherwise
aimeek1236 oh okayy. I was wondering that this entire time. When he said she hits him. I didn't understand if it was hitting him cause she has anger issues too or what
1 year of looking for advice after a bad relationship, and finally I see this!!..
Just call a narcissist a narcissist not just an abuser
I have a huge self esteem. and i can take wtvr my bf does to me, as i love him. and i want him to mold to be a better person. and yes its hard to leave. but once he hits u, or cheats on u, thats a line that he crossed. i can take anything from a partner, but those 2, nope. im out. have more self dignity girls. be proud of the person you are today. your future depends on it.
She's only 17 and has a baby! That in its self is a problem.
A lot of ghetto, young people have kids really young. I am not saying that is okay, but it is kind of reality for a lot of kids growing up in the ghetto. I know this because I noticed this growing up in the ghetto.
THATS WHY DAUGHTERS NEED FATHERS!
They were both in the wrong. Clearly, he has issues, but so does she. Yes, men are proven to be generally stronger than women. But there are so many cases of domestic violence that comes from the woman to the man and that gets no where near as much attention as when a man abuses a woman. It's a double standard and she should have gotten taught about how to behave too. They were both fighting. It takes two
P.S sorry if my grammar is not correct ,English is not my native language
I do not understand why her mother did not act, that girl is a minor and her mother should protect her... if I had a girl and that boy hither in the face four times that guy would be in jail, not on a sofa in a TV show
I just lost a lot of respect for Tyra, it's not that men shouldn't lay their hands on women ever. I don't care what sex it is, if it attacks me I will defend and disable it. I don't care if I can't tell what sex it is. If it attacks like an animal it will be treated like one. We are humans , we have the ability to make decisions in situations. What's between your legs doesn't make you a victim.
I can't watch this.. The first girl is annoying.. Why stay with him wth?
Her staying with him isnt the problem. The problem is why dont we focus on him not hurting her anymore?
Unless you are in that situation you will never understand.
pandac0ffee the admitted in the beginning that she causes the fights sometimes...i believe him too..i dont understand why he wont leave...all he has to do is walk away from her and the abuse stops...its not always the boy/man...women too often times hit and get in their faces...a man is a man..all day, every day...if people know how to get under their partner/girlfriend/boyfriend skin..they know what to do to set them off...if he knows this what she does, he should leave cause she dont seem like shes going anywhere...whos to say she dont find this kind of behaivor "normal"...she hits him also, so its not just him.
-because of women confuse love for ass beatings, then they involve all their friends and family & bring down everybody else around them for some loser bad boy type... unless the women is desperately trying to get a way and cuts off all ties with him his friends & family its pointless....best advice is to stay as far away from her crazy life as possible ...maybe your a women who has self esteem thats why you dont understand this...
pandac0ffee
It is the problem... I mean she has to know she does not deserve to be hit, she has to have self respect.... You argue because you have a different opinion... but you never hit, throw punches... it's a relationship.. people should build something together not hurt each-other... fiscally :) I think boy or girl all should find somebody that respects them and that make them be better... and not stay in an abusive relationship... because they can do much better... the abusive ones have a problem and they should go to therapy and find equilibrium :)
The second story omggg scared the shit outta me
it's funny a lot of people know the signs of abuse... they allow it. I've allow it to happen one day I went to school and told my teacher about my father putting me through a wall :(
Thank you Barbie
Domestic violence is wrong but at the same time it's hard to sympathize with girls or women that continue to stay or date other guys like this. Sometimes victim hood is a choice. Treat a woman like a queen she'll leave, treat her like trash she'll love you for life.
The point that some people miss is some females will intentionally start shit then play victim he has a problem but guess what she does too so that type of behavior goes both ways
Crazy how many chicks are saying, "that's not abuse"
I'm glad someone brought it up. I was just thinking myself how worrying that was..
You people don't understand you think it's so easy to leave. It's not. I was in a abusive relationship and those are very hard to get away from it. My ex use to pull me by my hair and punch me in the face and slap me and then I tried to leave but I thought I loved him and I thought he loved me but you know it's still going on. He still won't be leaving me alone. People need to stop saying "oh just leave him" you can't get away from it that easy.
Am I the only one who notices this pattern, that they teens with kids??
I think men shouldn't hit women, if the woman gets outta control, as a man just remove yourself from the situation
This show is very one-sided women are equally as violent as men can be just aren't as strong it's not pretend female on male violence in relationships does not exist
The fact that the girl is 17 and with a damn baby blows my mind like y’all are babies
"my girl friend is my angel" I will only cry and talk like I always do to God to show that I don't like the situation we are in so, guys please don't rush in to relationships pray and God will give you one of his angles to love you in and out. i know is not easy but first keep your body pure and someone pure will come "with a big smile (-_-) I know everything will be fine"
K tons of these female audience members were really oblivious to abuse.
In the video he called her an idiot and fat and that girl called it an “argument”
smh
Naw the first couple just needs to break up!!!! That’s just break up and get help separately.
love is not beating the fuck out of someone. im 41 and some of you kids really need to understand that before your parents wind up going to your grave and im not saying that to be mean but damn....