YES!! I had noticed this and its so odd?? what made them make the decision to only paywall NEW people instead of all? and why was there no official statement on this? i tested it myself on my phone about 2 days ago by redownloading it and sure enough, got the update.. luckily i hadn’t recorded my video at the time so i was able to update my script. this whole situation was SO confusing to research because of the majority of the videos i saw were not actually giving THEIR POV! they just repeated the same stuff not looking into it themselves outside of you, and like 2 other users.
Im not a new user to the app and i have experience for years, it doesent seem like it for some of my animations but ive done it for around 4-5 years. Its sad great apps that all of us use like capcut are starting to get MORE money hungry even if they already are billionares, PLUS CAPCUT COLLABS WITH TIKTOK.. ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR AND RICH APPS ON THE INTERNET!!
I started using Flipaclip in like, 2016, because it was so accessible as a newbie and a minor. I guess greed is going to ruin that for the next kids who take an interest in animation.
Exactly. I quit flipaclip for like one or two years before the "greedy era" of it. Now, when i entered the app, there was a 30 second advertisement every time the animation I made would end. It's FREAKING disguisting.
That's actually so stupid. I remember how Flipaclip was always known for being super cheap and accessible but now new animators are gonna have to PAY just to add audio. I guess we're gonna have to find some new animation apps
@ManticaretheTherian toonsquid is a 1 time purchase and does not have a subscription, though it’s a little hard to learn how to use it at first. Tutorials are pretty nice though, I mainly use tweening for it because that’s what’s easy for me
Do they not realise the age group that uses Flipaclip? I used it when I was a child it was an excellent starter software at the time before changing to something more professional in the future. Their software is not advanced enough to add these paywalls and is almost exclusively used by young animators just starting out. Young animators, being children and young teens, do NOT earn money to buy all this shit 😭 Watching Flipaclip turn into an amazing app into a shitty cash grab has been the worst thing I have ever seen 😭
that's the thing. Flipaclip knows many of their users are children. If they put terrible updates just for the children (youngest animators), the kids won't complain because they won't know that flipaclip is doing terrible things. Even if they will know, what are they going to do about it? Flipaclip won't give a fuck It's basically using young children who don't know stuff very well for more money. It's horrible, yet so common.
@@i_luv_mycats-5 you won't be affected by the update if you had flipaclip installed before the update. Just don't delete the app and you'll be alright By "children" I meant new animators (who have just installed the app recently) who (usually) are younger kids
@@i_luv_mycats-5 then you were lucky and did it before the update arrived to your app. When an update comes out some people will get it earlier than other people
Yes 😭😭 in my opinion, the old flipaclip was WAYY better! I did buy flipaclip PREMIUM (not plus/pro) before the "new" and "better" subscriptions were added so I have no issue with this, but its so odd that they're so money hungry even tho they have plenty of users.. I dont think the realize that adding more ads/subscription-based features is RUINING the economy for them 😭
@@TOUSOUx thats odd! Sometimes it glitches and asks me to watch ads to add audio/unlock brushes but then it goes back to normal in a few seconds- its like its searching thru the peple who have subscriptions lol
As someone who is also a FlipAClip user, I'm extremely disappointed now knowing this. I didn't know about this until now, but the fact they're making a paywall, especially for new users as well is awful tbh. I had a feeling they were going to get more greedy, considering they've changed, premium for an example. Now you have to do a monthly payment or a whole year payment, instead of just a one time purchase for it. It's honestly weird and just disappointing, that FlipAClip is going down this route.
@ It’s all good, no need to apologize! It’s not your fault that, FlipAClip is doing this. Hopefully it goes back to being, how old FlipAClip used to be, but I doubt that will happen.
I remember back when you could purchase things like no ads or more layers separately, and for at most 3 dollars. Now there's a monthly premium for features that were free in the past. It feels like every time I return to Flipaclip with an ounce of inspiration, I find out they purposely made their app 10x worse while I was gone...
Flipaclip isn’t even THAT ADVANCED of a program. It’s very basic. I don’t think everything should be paywalled, I understand certain brushes and features but basic animation program tools are crazy..
Dude, flipaclip is my go-to, and honestly, the ONLY one im used and able to actually know how to use, i enjoy every feature and result. But adding a paywall for audio?! one of the most important things for animation? I can't believe that they're trying to suck the money off their minor majority userbase. Unbelievable.
I used to be a major flipaclip Stan until I started moving on because the app subscription just made me lose motivation for animation leading a month or two of no videos until I got a new phone and moved on to alight motion so now I draw assets in Ibis paint and tween them which honestly brings me more happiness as I always loved tweening And now seeing flipaclip reaching an all time low with AI voices and paywalling is pretty sad since that app was my childhood :,3
How do you use alight motion? It kinda sucks as well, when I downloaded it to try it the app immediately gave me 2 ads then gave me 2 more when I clicked anything else 😭 not being mean btw
@@Spleenchomper basically if you're familiar with making edits you'd mostly use key frames And with the ads I think the amount of ads you get depends on your area because I'm in Canada and I pretty much only get very little ads like two or three And if you're not familiar with the timeline and mechanics of alight motion you can always watch tutorials
Someone better teach the beginner animators how to pirate softwares if we want to make it out in this economy lol The amount of people I know IRL that have never even heard what pirating is actually shocks me. I genuinely thought it was common knowledge for a long time.
This is annoying, but when I had the paywall for layers, I did this lifehack myself so this could also work for you with the audio stuff (You have to pay but only once for this lifehack) So on, like, near Christmas last year, I made a project and put the max of layers on it, so when my premium ended, I just copied it and kept animating with that, so on and so on! Hope that this tip helps other animators too, I’ve been using this method for a long time
@Cloud_that_looks_like_a_catWell I think for the audio you can’t, but the projects and stuff helps me for stuff though you can watch ads for the audio, it’s a little annoying with ads but it’s better than nothing
I’ve had the old one-time purchase of all premium features before they added the subscription. I thought it couldn’t get worse, I thought they’d think charging a SUBSCRIPTION for a mid animating app was bad enough but WHAT??/?/?/
bro why iz every app i have uzed 4 yearz becoming zo greedy 😭😭 firzt capcut and now flipaclip ?? me when all the repliez under thiz r about the typing quirk I uze 😭
Alot of people think you need some special animation program in order to do classic animation, but you don't really have to. The way I've always done classic animation: I just animate with a regular art program and save multiple image files that are slightly different from each other to make frames, then put them onto movie maker and speed em up. works well for me plus it's free and you don't get a watermark trying to claim ownership of your own work :3
The only downside with the whole animation feature on ibisPaint you can’t add audio the only way that I can add audio to the animation itself is with CapCut
@@Tangy_Kittagreed like when Ibis paint animation came out I did try it once but struggled but after flipaclip started turning to trash I pretty much gave up on it and moved on to alight motion and became a full time tweening animator I use Ibis paint to draw the assets
Wow, I switched to toonsquid (maybe since June) because flipaclip took up all my storage and crashed 8 times for 1 animation, but it’s so stupid flipaclip is doing this.
flipa-clip was the app that got me into animation, and it is so disappointing to see just how greedy the company has gotten, and I had paid for premium for a year too when i started, but the app glitched and i lost all the premium features. That update is so horrible jeez
Yeah I’ve certainly noticed a decline over the years, back then it was much more cheaper, and now you need to make an account to watch ads to unlock more layers, audio and etc, more and more this app is just becoming a unnecessarily greedy cash grab
It really bothered me when they went from a one-time payment of $6 for premium features to a $30 yearly payment. That's a huge price increase. Thankfully I bought premium way back in 2020 and seem to have retained the features I paid for without having to pay again, but it really frustrates me that new users have to pay for it because it's making new people not want to join the animating hobby cause they literally don't have the resources to.
Man…and I used it years ago in highschool and was beginning to grow my channel, it was even the start of digital art and animation for me. Guess I can’t go back to animating on Flipaclip now…it was fun while it lasted. Have to find something else to use for animation now all because companies just want money it seems.
I remember back when I first started animating two years ago, I used FlipaClip the first year or so and had so much fun with it (despite my phone overheating and crashing the app) So sad that they’re putting everything behind a paywall.
@@AtomicWhiskers Hey! The original reply I had didn't post for some reason. I mean to add on that I'm unfortunately an Android user :,D (I do appreciate the recommendation though)
It’s so sad to be seeing it end up in such a state. If it gets to a point that it strips away the premium I paid for before all of this started happening, I will animate on Procreate instead.
This is why I prefer frame cast in a lot of senses. Beginner, friendly with the occasional ad, it’s free to add audio, while there are limited brushes, you can customize these limited brushes to be however you like. Frame cast is just better, I really wish it was available for current iPhones
This is the reason why I use alight motion instead it's kind of stupid that flipaclip is making kids paying just to add an audio like how stupid is that.
I animate on Flipaclip, I have been for ages. I try to avoid the controversy, but this is honestly just stupid. I'm not the best at animating, but still flipaclip :_:
It’s not your fault they turned out bad ❤ Ngl they’ve been sending me weed ads lately (for context, I am a MINOR!!) which has been really weird :/ I also have gotten a pop up from them saying they were adding AI voices which is really worrying for the future as well. I animate on an ipad and don’t let it automatically update, so I’m glad I haven’t been hit with the paywall yet Definitely going to end up switching how I animate soon though, been thinking of trying out drawing traditional sketches/storyboards, then taking pictures of them and coloring them digitally and adding each frame into a clip It wouldn’t be super bad for me because I find that I’m better at traditional art anyway, but it’s still going to be an adjustment. If I can find a new app, I might also end up switching to that one. What we really need is to band together and make our own animation app, for artists by artists, yknow? Sadly, I don’t know how to code but one can dream
Been using flipaclip since age 7 im 17 now and its so heartbreaking to see this stupid shit. Got premium a couple years ago when it was legacy and when I heard about the recent "subscription" setting I got actually pissed off, beginner animators needing a subscription to do basic stuff like use an onion is wild to me. Even now with my current version they try to make me buy an updated plus or whatever for a sub, dawg there's no WAY.
Gosh it's just getting worrying at this point, like there is NO WAY they can be THAT tight for cash with the insane amount of ads they have (cant complain though cuz I won flipaclip plus in a challenge 😔)
@ManticaretheTherian yea once in a blue moon flipaclip decides they want to give the community a smooch and give them a chance to win it!! Look up the cut it out challenge, that's how I got it anyway
Back in 2021-2022, FlipaClip used to be my absolute FAVORITE app. It was the only good free animation app I could use. I used to make so many animations, where if I only wanted to take out the watermark, I could just pay for that and nothing else. I could add music to my videos by watching adds and I was fine with it. But now I barely use it because I don’t want to have to pay a bunch of money for just a few things like removing the watermark, getting more layers, etc. Now we have to pay to add sound?! That’s BS.
PREACH!!! I've been using flipaclip for SO many years and I got the og premium. I remember when things were amazing and it was actually cheap. What the hell are they thinking? Flipaclips really the only option for me because of collabs and other projects and I wouldnt want the money to be for nothing, but I'm horrified with what theyre making newer users do just to get a fraction of what we had...I left their discord and everything, not to mention the amount of bugs they havent patched (failed to paste layers, save failed, that weird purple glow i never placed...?) honestly theyre gonna recieve horrible backlash for this.
it's annoying how people make apps less accessible and less comfortable to use in order to just get some money from users I rarely saw anybody talk about it and it feels like everybody just went along with it, like yeah, cut off half of the functions and charge a ridiculous amount of money for them. just make the whole app paid in general then, goddammit
I always find this funny because I'm used to the add audio function and more than 3 layers function being behind a paywall, as I downloaded the app like 4 years ago and have been using premium for about 3 years, and back 3 years ago those features WERE behind a paywall. Although, back then, you only needed five dollars for everything, so it has gotten worse/
I don’t animate, but I’ve seen how bad Picsart has gotten as a photo editor, not only in terms of paywalls but in terms of how buggy certain features are. Stuff like this is always disappointing
as someone who used flipaclip in 2018, i feel like this is a horrible update overall. other animating and editing companies used to be freely accesible, the premium only having a few niche features. im guessing they thought they'd make more money by adding more free features to the "premium" subscription to the point where you can't even do anything in the free version. the only thing its doing is lowering the amount of customers that actually use the app from it's pay-to-use like appearance. at this point, just make the app cost money. theres no point in making an editing system where only people with a great amount of money to spend are able to use the app, since they would already be occupied with a different editing system making money from there
Man I was so calm after thinking it's just a rumor but not anymore The thing I also hate is the fact how easily flipashit got away with the hate by posting fandom trendy shorts : / If awareness won't be spread the flipaclip guys will know they can do anything they want with the app and do even worse updates because people won't notice anyway until it's too late.
This absolutely unbeliveable. I used Flipaclip for 9 years (still use it) and as much as I think that this is not the best app to animate; it's the best start newbies can get. And now, look at you Flipaclip. You became what you swore to destroy. I am absolutely disappointed in them and I feel very sorry for the beginners. It is not right.
@ManticaretheTherian It is just.. saddening. It's like watching your parent slowly disappear from your life or something. Like their face got blurred and you can't recognize them anymore. Poor users of Flipaclip.
That defeats the entire purpose of Flipaclip. All the basics and additions before Flipaclip premium became a thing should all be free and available to new animators. This is ridiculous.
I remember a bunch of years ago when getting all of premium features was a really cheap 1 time purchase. Now its 2-3 times as expensive and everything is behind a paywall. Plus im pretty sure its super laggy for me now. It really sucks that beginner animators dont really have any options anymore >:(
I personally use scratch to animate now, although it’s kinda hard compared to FlipaClip, it’s free and you can import audio & images, the only thing with it that bugs me is a lack of layers
I had the one time purchase back in 2019 and Im sweating in what will happen to me 👁️👁️💧 (this is also similar to ibis paint X changing from 18 hours free brush to 4 HOURS!!)
Only 4 hours??? WHAT- (Luckily i don’t have to watch an add to use all brushes for free cause when I try it doesn’t load and it say something about a error idk)
I definitely recommend ibis paint. I used to draw with FlipaClip too but ibis is just so much less of a headache with a way more reasonable amount of ads. It took a bit to learn but it was worth it
Holy shit! I admit, I did use mod apk version of FAC when I was first starting out on android and decided to pay for it when I switched to iOS. But now that I have an iPad and ToonSquid is basically the price that FAC Premium was, I can never go back! Call me glazing all you want but like it’s really good for storyboards and animations!
When I downloaded flipaclip a year or two ago, it already made me buy the add audio feature, and I haven’t downloaded it since because that’s such a scummy thing to do
I paid for premium back when it was a one-time payment so I use flipaclip a lot, but I can’t recommend the app anymore because of stuff like this (and since they made premium a subscription). It used to be such a simple easy way to start animating :(
I’ve had FlipaClip for like a year and it still recently changed to having to pay for audio. Of course it made you watch a video before, but that’s not even an option anymore and it pisses me off.
FYI guys if you don’t know what she’s talking about, on flipaclip there used to be this feature where you can screen record a video that has the video audio you want for a project (basically when you make a new animation on flipaclip) then you can convert that video into the files app from the camera app and then you can upload on the audio from the video on the animation. But now when you try to do it, it says “FLIPACLIP PLUS!”
That is genuinely terrible, why do companies do this? I get that it's for money but don't they already make a living off of it? And for NEW animators as well?
guys, Krita has an animation feature. It's kinda clunky, but Winged Canvas have a tutorial on basic animation in Krita You can also imprt audio for free :)
This has actually been a thing for a while now, I recommended FlipaClip to a friend like a year ago, and when they installed it they had the whole audio paywall, FlipaClip also has a various other issues that personally drove me away from it and towards other applications, but a large part of it is just that I can’t support the actions of the company
They need money somehow. But I think the paywall should not be on the audio, more rather on something else, Perhaps the more than 3 layers? Cause I bought the $7 pay once thing way back when it was still a thing, and no longer have to pay, and yet I still rarely use more than like 3 layers anyways. I’d rather a small paywall, than a bunch of annoying ads. I just don’t like what they put the paywall on.
I am glad that i have downloaded flipaclip since like 2020-2021 on my Ipad, This is terrible for new users, this app is now forcing new users to pay just to add audio or layers without watching ad option?!?! Bruh, this is so stupid
@ManticaretheTherian i have a question, i heard that you said that the flipaclip update only affects ios users and new users, does that mean only people who have downloaded flipaclip for the first time on their ios devices are affected by that issue? I am so confused by that 😣
this is ridiculous, i used to use flipaclip and this is just dissapointing. paywalling audio is crazy like if that happened on an editing software the public would go crazy but it apparently is okay for animation, ik not the same thing but its just absurd when audio is so essential for animating anything cool. this is just a guess but im pretty sure theyre doing this cuz they have actual competitors now that are taking away the money flow from them, why buy a monthly subscription for a rudimentary animating software with layer caps and other limitations when theres something like toonsquid which is a one time purchase and has a buttload more features? i sincerely hope this backfires and theyll reverse the decision, beginners shouldnt be punished for trying out animation, its whether all or none
Thank the LORD I managed to get Toonsquid after so long (being a android user that now managed to get a iPad). It's sad to see the app that used to get praised, actually had respect for it's community, now get corrupted by greed like with every big cooperation. Sad to see the app I've been using for 5 years get turned into a basically pay to animate sort of thing Wish Toonsquid was available for all devices and for free so that more people can switch to it (the app still confuses me so I have to learn it) but it's amazing nonetheless, at this point flipaclip doesn't deserve its users for what it's doing :c
I got flipaclip years ago and got all the permanent upgrades, though I have since permanently moved to krita since flipaclip is actually so laggy it is basically unusable for me. And honestly with how money hungry flipaclip is getting, people are just better off biting the bullet with toonsquid and actually getting a good app
I was one of the unlucky ones who didn't get Flipaclip Premium before it was replaced by Plus, I had to use a modded (and potentially cracked) version of it for my animations JUST because I can't access the audio feature. Companies are becoming greedy as hell like atleast make the more important ones a lower price or at the very least free (like the audio feature) 😭
yup definitely waiting for that one goose animation app(forgot the name) to go to google playstore or any other apps that i can get to my pc without paying anything
YES!! I had noticed this and its so odd?? what made them make the decision to only paywall NEW people instead of all? and why was there no official statement on this? i tested it myself on my phone about 2 days ago by redownloading it and sure enough, got the update.. luckily i hadn’t recorded my video at the time so i was able to update my script. this whole situation was SO confusing to research because of the majority of the videos i saw were not actually giving THEIR POV! they just repeated the same stuff not looking into it themselves outside of you, and like 2 other users.
@@BreDrawz YES, OH MY GOD
FRR BRE
@@eee-eee_e YEAH
Im not a new user to the app and i have experience for years, it doesent seem like it for some of my animations but ive done it for around 4-5 years. Its sad great apps that all of us use like capcut are starting to get MORE money hungry even if they already are billionares, PLUS CAPCUT COLLABS WITH TIKTOK.. ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR AND RICH APPS ON THE INTERNET!!
BRE APPEARANCE!! This situation is literally so bad
I feel so bad for the beginner animators.The only platform that allows beginner animators to animate without money, is now greedy.
@sysprey frfr
Try pixilart… it has no audio feature, but it’s free version is pretty solid
Ibis paint is now here, and I love their animation feature but they didn't add audio yet .
@@catzzs sadly, you have to pay to change the size of the picture, still at least it's not that bad..
Pencil 2D on PC is free
I started using Flipaclip in like, 2016, because it was so accessible as a newbie and a minor. I guess greed is going to ruin that for the next kids who take an interest in animation.
@@iclynnx true
Yeah... it's sad, really. I was one of those kids who tried using it but OH MY GOD THEY ARE SO GREEDY! I mean come on!
@Angler_of_the_Seas11875 UGHH
I never used the add audio feature much anyway, I just ported it over to imovie and added sound effects there.
I started using it on 2020
Exactly. I quit flipaclip for like one or two years before the "greedy era" of it. Now, when i entered the app, there was a 30 second advertisement every time the animation I made would end. It's FREAKING disguisting.
Damn
Same
That's actually so stupid. I remember how Flipaclip was always known for being super cheap and accessible but now new animators are gonna have to PAY just to add audio. I guess we're gonna have to find some new animation apps
Yeah.
Apparently toonsquid is a onetime purchase, and I'm THINKING of switching over. I'M PISSED.
I want to switch to Toonsquid or Procreate but I don't have an iPad so I'm gonna have to be stuck to Flipaclip unfortunately
@MapleMonarch oof
@ManticaretheTherian toonsquid is a 1 time purchase and does not have a subscription, though it’s a little hard to learn how to use it at first. Tutorials are pretty nice though, I mainly use tweening for it because that’s what’s easy for me
@-.farrow.- I've heard
Do they not realise the age group that uses Flipaclip? I used it when I was a child it was an excellent starter software at the time before changing to something more professional in the future. Their software is not advanced enough to add these paywalls and is almost exclusively used by young animators just starting out. Young animators, being children and young teens, do NOT earn money to buy all this shit 😭
Watching Flipaclip turn into an amazing app into a shitty cash grab has been the worst thing I have ever seen 😭
that's the thing.
Flipaclip knows many of their users are children.
If they put terrible updates just for the children (youngest animators), the kids won't complain because they won't know that flipaclip is doing terrible things. Even if they will know, what are they going to do about it? Flipaclip won't give a fuck
It's basically using young children who don't know stuff very well for more money.
It's horrible, yet so common.
I am i kid and i use it? @@Amy_REDACTED
@@i_luv_mycats-5 you won't be affected by the update if you had flipaclip installed before the update. Just don't delete the app and you'll be alright
By "children" I meant new animators (who have just installed the app recently) who (usually) are younger kids
@Amy_REDACTED I think I download it a few days ago and one time it told me to watch an ad or buy something to get a brush
@@i_luv_mycats-5 then you were lucky and did it before the update arrived to your app.
When an update comes out some people will get it earlier than other people
Yes 😭😭 in my opinion, the old flipaclip was WAYY better! I did buy flipaclip PREMIUM (not plus/pro) before the "new" and "better" subscriptions were added so I have no issue with this, but its so odd that they're so money hungry even tho they have plenty of users.. I dont think the realize that adding more ads/subscription-based features is RUINING the economy for them 😭
@@C0ffeebeaniex3 THIS
I also got flipaclip primium as well, however when they started adding all of these pay walls, my subscription got removed.
I used to have premium but they never gave it back to me had an account and all and so I’ve not used it since
@@TOUSOUx thats odd! Sometimes it glitches and asks me to watch ads to add audio/unlock brushes but then it goes back to normal in a few seconds- its like its searching thru the peple who have subscriptions lol
As someone who is also a FlipAClip user, I'm extremely disappointed now knowing this. I didn't know about this until now, but the fact they're making a paywall, especially for new users as well is awful tbh. I had a feeling they were going to get more greedy, considering they've changed, premium for an example. Now you have to do a monthly payment or a whole year payment, instead of just a one time purchase for it. It's honestly weird and just disappointing, that FlipAClip is going down this route.
Damn... I'm sorry!
@ It’s all good, no need to apologize! It’s not your fault that, FlipAClip is doing this. Hopefully it goes back to being, how old FlipAClip used to be, but I doubt that will happen.
@parasiticals oof
fancy seeing you here
@@muffinsaur. HI MUFFIN!!
I remember back when you could purchase things like no ads or more layers separately, and for at most 3 dollars. Now there's a monthly premium for features that were free in the past. It feels like every time I return to Flipaclip with an ounce of inspiration, I find out they purposely made their app 10x worse while I was gone...
@garlikbred6474 ughhh that has to SUCKKKK
Flipashit and CapCut are being so sucky… I’m sorry to everyone who uses it rn and is having basic animation program features paywalled..
Flipaclip isn’t even THAT ADVANCED of a program. It’s very basic. I don’t think everything should be paywalled, I understand certain brushes and features but basic animation program tools are crazy..
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@@Germmillions ON GOD THO
@@Germmillions hopefully alight motion wont do the same thing :(
@@genderrrrrrrrr5969 praying
My disappointment is longer than π, and my day is with the lost city of Atlantis; it's in ruins.
@@Crossover_2763 UNDERRATED COMMENT
Someone get this guy a medal, this is the most creative comment I’ve seen.
Flipa and capcut are the most greediest 💀💀
@@Kaiju-Nick true
and worst of all they are like one of the most used ofcourse
@ChipsAreHere fr
capcut literally collabs with tiktok. ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR AND RICH APPS... and they are still starving for lots of money
i need a flipaclip x capcut ao3/wattpad fanfic im desperate
Dude, flipaclip is my go-to, and honestly, the ONLY one im used and able to actually know how to use, i enjoy every feature and result. But adding a paywall for audio?! one of the most important things for animation?
I can't believe that they're trying to suck the money off their minor majority userbase.
Unbelievable.
Fr, I use flipaclip for my animations, if they add that paywall for all users, what am I gonna do????? Alight motion is way too hard for me 😭
I used to be a major flipaclip Stan until I started moving on because the app subscription just made me lose motivation for animation leading a month or two of no videos until I got a new phone and moved on to alight motion so now I draw assets in Ibis paint and tween them which honestly brings me more happiness as I always loved tweening
And now seeing flipaclip reaching an all time low with AI voices and paywalling is pretty sad since that app was my childhood :,3
SAME UGHHH
I'm genuinely thinking of moving to toonsquid
How do you use alight motion? It kinda sucks as well, when I downloaded it to try it the app immediately gave me 2 ads then gave me 2 more when I clicked anything else 😭 not being mean btw
@@Spleenchomper basically if you're familiar with making edits you'd mostly use key frames
And with the ads I think the amount of ads you get depends on your area because I'm in Canada and I pretty much only get very little ads like two or three
And if you're not familiar with the timeline and mechanics of alight motion you can always watch tutorials
Someone better teach the beginner animators how to pirate softwares if we want to make it out in this economy lol
The amount of people I know IRL that have never even heard what pirating is actually shocks me. I genuinely thought it was common knowledge for a long time.
Yeah, it’s crazy that there are ppl who don’t know what pirating is, I’ve known what pirating was since like, I was 5.
This is annoying, but when I had the paywall for layers, I did this lifehack myself so this could also work for you with the audio stuff (You have to pay but only once for this lifehack)
So on, like, near Christmas last year, I made a project and put the max of layers on it, so when my premium ended, I just copied it and kept animating with that, so on and so on!
Hope that this tip helps other animators too, I’ve been using this method for a long time
But if you don't have premium you can't do it
@Cloud_that_looks_like_a_catWell I think for the audio you can’t, but the projects and stuff helps me for stuff though you can watch ads for the audio, it’s a little annoying with ads but it’s better than nothing
Damn
I’ve had the old one-time purchase of all premium features before they added the subscription. I thought it couldn’t get worse, I thought they’d think charging a SUBSCRIPTION for a mid animating app was bad enough but WHAT??/?/?/
TRUE
Someone needs to make a Biggering AMV for FlipaClip
And capcut
Should I do that on flipaclip 😭😭🙏🙏
@AuTumn_drawz_and_pawz OMG YES, slandering flipaclip with their own app would go HARD
@StickminDude2.0 YEAAA I'LL TRY >:D edit: I've currently finished the first part, it'll take a few days bcz it's over 1000 frames long 😭😭
@AuTumn_drawz_and_pawz good luck!
bro why iz every app i have uzed 4 yearz becoming zo greedy 😭😭 firzt capcut and now flipaclip ??
me when all the repliez under thiz r about the typing quirk I uze 😭
@@cirrocirrus IDK
use your ss
was your "S" key also broken like mine help
@@DepressedBarCat im aware
@@DepressedBarCat IT'S A GODDAMN TYPING STYLE OH MY GOD
Alot of people think you need some special animation program in order to do classic animation, but you don't really have to. The way I've always done classic animation: I just animate with a regular art program and save multiple image files that are slightly different from each other to make frames, then put them onto movie maker and speed em up. works well for me plus it's free and you don't get a watermark trying to claim ownership of your own work :3
I used to use FlipaClip and when the ibisPaint animation feature came out I pretty much gave up on FlipaClip
The only downside with the whole animation feature on ibisPaint you can’t add audio the only way that I can add audio to the animation itself is with CapCut
@@Tangy_Kittagreed like when Ibis paint animation came out I did try it once but struggled but after flipaclip started turning to trash I pretty much gave up on it and moved on to alight motion and became a full time tweening animator I use Ibis paint to draw the assets
Wow, I switched to toonsquid (maybe since June) because flipaclip took up all my storage and crashed 8 times for 1 animation, but it’s so stupid flipaclip is doing this.
REAL
@ManticaretheTherian Try Procreat
@AFYNNGAMM I don't have money and I use a phone
toonsquid isnt on google play... pain
IbisPaintX has an animation feature, the app is free but there is a paywall behind some of the bigger canvasses. might be nice for beginners.
firealpaca has an option for it too. just put each frame and use onion skin mode.
I use an old version so I don't know if it changed.
flipa-clip was the app that got me into animation, and it is so disappointing to see just how greedy the company has gotten, and I had paid for premium for a year too when i started, but the app glitched and i lost all the premium features. That update is so horrible jeez
Yeah I’ve certainly noticed a decline over the years, back then it was much more cheaper, and now you need to make an account to watch ads to unlock more layers, audio and etc, more and more this app is just becoming a unnecessarily greedy cash grab
making a paywall to add audio and they haven't even released a desktop version of their app yet please get it together flipaclip oh my god???
@@crucifixdove THIS
Well FlipaClip is on some chromebooks, but yeah it’s still crazy they don’t have a MacBook version yet 💀
It really bothered me when they went from a one-time payment of $6 for premium features to a $30 yearly payment. That's a huge price increase. Thankfully I bought premium way back in 2020 and seem to have retained the features I paid for without having to pay again, but it really frustrates me that new users have to pay for it because it's making new people not want to join the animating hobby cause they literally don't have the resources to.
I expected it. Flipaclip meet your new twin capcut 😭
Man…and I used it years ago in highschool and was beginning to grow my channel, it was even the start of digital art and animation for me. Guess I can’t go back to animating on Flipaclip now…it was fun while it lasted.
Have to find something else to use for animation now all because companies just want money it seems.
@@terrorthywolf3965 I am SO sorry to hear this, man.
I remember back when I first started animating two years ago, I used FlipaClip the first year or so and had so much fun with it (despite my phone overheating and crashing the app) So sad that they’re putting everything behind a paywall.
As a beginner animator stuff like this just makes me feel more discouraged 🤦♀️
Don't feel that way!! Anyone can start animation!
I would move but it's still the most convenient app for phone I can find T_T
@@TheEclipseNecrozma same :
Toonsquid! I swear its so much better, one purchase forever and only ten bucks. I never looked back
@@AtomicWhiskers I've been looking at Toonsquid, but unfortunately I have an Android phone :,D
@@AtomicWhiskers Hey! The original reply I had didn't post for some reason. I mean to add on that I'm unfortunately an Android user :,D (I do appreciate the recommendation though)
@@TheEclipseNecrozma Aw thats a shame! And no worries, hopefully in the future Toonsquid is added to Android too :(
It’s so sad to be seeing it end up in such a state. If it gets to a point that it strips away the premium I paid for before all of this started happening, I will animate on Procreate instead.
This is why I prefer frame cast in a lot of senses. Beginner, friendly with the occasional ad, it’s free to add audio, while there are limited brushes, you can customize these limited brushes to be however you like. Frame cast is just better, I really wish it was available for current iPhones
This is the reason why I use alight motion instead it's kind of stupid that flipaclip is making kids paying just to add an audio like how stupid is that.
@@Rabid_moon002 yeah fr
How do you use am?
@harperglitterheart just watch some tutorials I learned it myself
Remember kids, pirate apps from greedy corporations that makes the simplest features a luxury!! 😁
I CAN'T FIND A WORKING APK YET UGHHH
DO YOU WHAT YOU WANT BECAUASE A PIRATE IS FREE, YOU ARE A PIRATE!!
@chefcatyesiamcat WE PILLAGE AND WE PLUNDER!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥☠️☠️🦜🦜
@ManticaretheTherian heh... you know who to call
@chefcatyesiamcat GIGGLING
I animate on Flipaclip, I have been for ages. I try to avoid the controversy, but this is honestly just stupid. I'm not the best at animating, but still flipaclip :_:
SAME
Artists are meant to pay a tax for everything, meanwhile their works are taken for free, and regurgitated by a machine, that made me doubt reality.
@@dumbvillage9253 THIS
thank goodness i got premium back when it was like 7 bucks and not a subscription 😭 i genuinely feel so bad for new users
It’s not your fault they turned out bad ❤
Ngl they’ve been sending me weed ads lately (for context, I am a MINOR!!) which has been really weird :/
I also have gotten a pop up from them saying they were adding AI voices which is really worrying for the future as well.
I animate on an ipad and don’t let it automatically update, so I’m glad I haven’t been hit with the paywall yet
Definitely going to end up switching how I animate soon though, been thinking of trying out drawing traditional sketches/storyboards, then taking pictures of them and coloring them digitally and adding each frame into a clip
It wouldn’t be super bad for me because I find that I’m better at traditional art anyway, but it’s still going to be an adjustment. If I can find a new app, I might also end up switching to that one.
What we really need is to band together and make our own animation app, for artists by artists, yknow? Sadly, I don’t know how to code but one can dream
Been using flipaclip since age 7 im 17 now and its so heartbreaking to see this stupid shit. Got premium a couple years ago when it was legacy and when I heard about the recent "subscription" setting I got actually pissed off, beginner animators needing a subscription to do basic stuff like use an onion is wild to me. Even now with my current version they try to make me buy an updated plus or whatever for a sub, dawg there's no WAY.
Ngl I just pay for it. Been using FlipaClip for everything for years (art+animations). Its the only software thats simple enough for me to understand
Flipaclip is just MSpaint with a framerate, it shouldn't cost money.
Didn't they already have adding audio paywalled for a while?
The apk mod is looking really good rn.
Gosh it's just getting worrying at this point, like there is NO WAY they can be THAT tight for cash with the insane amount of ads they have (cant complain though cuz I won flipaclip plus in a challenge 😔)
@@-TheCheeseMan- YOU CAN WIN IT!?
@ManticaretheTherian yea once in a blue moon flipaclip decides they want to give the community a smooch and give them a chance to win it!! Look up the cut it out challenge, that's how I got it anyway
@-TheCheeseMan- DUDDEEEEE
Back in 2021-2022, FlipaClip used to be my absolute FAVORITE app. It was the only good free animation app I could use. I used to make so many animations, where if I only wanted to take out the watermark, I could just pay for that and nothing else. I could add music to my videos by watching adds and I was fine with it. But now I barely use it because I don’t want to have to pay a bunch of money for just a few things like removing the watermark, getting more layers, etc. Now we have to pay to add sound?! That’s BS.
im so glad SOMEONE said it, like, dude i literally almost cried because of it!
PREACH!!! I've been using flipaclip for SO many years and I got the og premium. I remember when things were amazing and it was actually cheap. What the hell are they thinking? Flipaclips really the only option for me because of collabs and other projects and I wouldnt want the money to be for nothing, but I'm horrified with what theyre making newer users do just to get a fraction of what we had...I left their discord and everything, not to mention the amount of bugs they havent patched (failed to paste layers, save failed, that weird purple glow i never placed...?) honestly theyre gonna recieve horrible backlash for this.
it's annoying how people make apps less accessible and less comfortable to use in order to just get some money from users
I rarely saw anybody talk about it and it feels like everybody just went along with it, like yeah, cut off half of the functions and charge a ridiculous amount of money for them. just make the whole app paid in general then, goddammit
Any good non-pay alternatives anymore???
I always find this funny because I'm used to the add audio function and more than 3 layers function being behind a paywall, as I downloaded the app like 4 years ago and have been using premium for about 3 years, and back 3 years ago those features WERE behind a paywall. Although, back then, you only needed five dollars for everything, so it has gotten worse/
flipaclip used to be the roman empire of beginner animators, myself included, its SUCH a shame to see them destroy their own redeeming qualities
@marimationsowo ikr???
I don’t animate, but I’ve seen how bad Picsart has gotten as a photo editor, not only in terms of paywalls but in terms of how buggy certain features are. Stuff like this is always disappointing
@briananeuraysem3321 the fact that multiple companies are doing this is disturbing
Lmao I've been using a modded version of flipaclip for a few years now. I use happymod if anyone else wants to be a pirate
as someone who used flipaclip in 2018, i feel like this is a horrible update overall. other animating and editing companies used to be freely accesible, the premium only having a few niche features. im guessing they thought they'd make more money by adding more free features to the "premium" subscription to the point where you can't even do anything in the free version. the only thing its doing is lowering the amount of customers that actually use the app from it's pay-to-use like appearance. at this point, just make the app cost money. theres no point in making an editing system where only people with a great amount of money to spend are able to use the app, since they would already be occupied with a different editing system making money from there
Wtf happened to Flipaclip… I remember using it when it was a one time fee for every feature, and now it’s an expensive monthly subscription??
Man I was so calm after thinking it's just a rumor but not anymore
The thing I also hate is the fact how easily flipashit got away with the hate by posting fandom trendy shorts : /
If awareness won't be spread the flipaclip guys will know they can do anything they want with the app and do even worse updates because people won't notice anyway until it's too late.
@@Amy_REDACTED THIS
I can't stress enough of how true this is
@furious-cyrus7849 SAME
This absolutely unbeliveable. I used Flipaclip for 9 years (still use it) and as much as I think that this is not the best app to animate; it's the best start newbies can get. And now, look at you Flipaclip. You became what you swore to destroy. I am absolutely disappointed in them and I feel very sorry for the beginners. It is not right.
@@x_Seeker_x THIS!!! I've used it for the same length of time and still use it, but damn....
@ManticaretheTherian It is just.. saddening. It's like watching your parent slowly disappear from your life or something. Like their face got blurred and you can't recognize them anymore. Poor users of Flipaclip.
@x_Seeker_x damn... that shit deep.
That defeats the entire purpose of Flipaclip. All the basics and additions before Flipaclip premium became a thing should all be free and available to new animators. This is ridiculous.
@TheStoryMakerYT EXACTLY
Ah, so it aged well...
@@youtubebobguy it did not 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@ManticaretheTherian I meant your previous video on this lol
@youtubebobguy ik
I remember a bunch of years ago when getting all of premium features was a really cheap 1 time purchase. Now its 2-3 times as expensive and everything is behind a paywall. Plus im pretty sure its super laggy for me now. It really sucks that beginner animators dont really have any options anymore >:(
Fr
I personally use scratch to animate now, although it’s kinda hard compared to FlipaClip, it’s free and you can import audio & images, the only thing with it that bugs me is a lack of layers
I had the one time purchase back in 2019 and Im sweating in what will happen to me 👁️👁️💧 (this is also similar to ibis paint X changing from 18 hours free brush to 4 HOURS!!)
Damn
Only 4 hours??? WHAT-
(Luckily i don’t have to watch an add to use all brushes for free cause when I try it doesn’t load and it say something about a error idk)
I mostly just use FlipaClip to Draw nowadays but if I’m actually gonna animate something I’m considering possibly switching to IbisPaint!
(Also I mainly use CapCut to add audio)
I definitely recommend ibis paint. I used to draw with FlipaClip too but ibis is just so much less of a headache with a way more reasonable amount of ads. It took a bit to learn but it was worth it
@@Neon99true
As an ibis paint user, I will say, ibis paint isn't the BEST for animation, but I can say, it's a lot less greedier and has better quality xd
Holy shit! I admit, I did use mod apk version of FAC when I was first starting out on android and decided to pay for it when I switched to iOS. But now that I have an iPad and ToonSquid is basically the price that FAC Premium was, I can never go back! Call me glazing all you want but like it’s really good for storyboards and animations!
welp were doomed, if yall wanna make animations with sound, make the animation without sound and add in capcut the sound, im so sorry for yall ✋😔
I always do that..so..
Im safe🤫🤫🧏♀️🧏♀️🧏♀️
When I downloaded flipaclip a year or two ago, it already made me buy the add audio feature, and I haven’t downloaded it since because that’s such a scummy thing to do
Now that I was thinking about start to animate again, wtf is happening
istg if i start experiencing this stuff on my tablet too im gonna just move to the new ibispaint animation feature...
I paid for premium back when it was a one-time payment so I use flipaclip a lot, but I can’t recommend the app anymore because of stuff like this (and since they made premium a subscription). It used to be such a simple easy way to start animating :(
Damn
I’ve had FlipaClip for like a year and it still recently changed to having to pay for audio. Of course it made you watch a video before, but that’s not even an option anymore and it pisses me off.
I’m so glad when I was a kid my mum got me procreate, rip to the beginner animators.
FYI guys if you don’t know what she’s talking about, on flipaclip there used to be this feature where you can screen record a video that has the video audio you want for a project (basically when you make a new animation on flipaclip) then you can convert that video into the files app from the camera app and then you can upload on the audio from the video on the animation. But now when you try to do it, it says “FLIPACLIP PLUS!”
@@HanssenChin I use an mp3 website to download my audios :3
@@HanssenChin also, HE!
@@HanssenChin I am a male.
It's times like these that validate piracy.
Ibs paint needs to make an animation app 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
That is genuinely terrible, why do companies do this? I get that it's for money but don't they already make a living off of it? And for NEW animators as well?
At this point what if we all just commented on flipaclips videos and just big them until they stop 😭
guys, Krita has an animation feature. It's kinda clunky, but Winged Canvas have a tutorial on basic animation in Krita
You can also imprt audio for free :)
@yabber-dabber-doo is krita itself free??
@ManticaretheTherian yes, its available on PC and mobile
@ManticaretheTherian and afaik there's no inn-app purchases (or ads) other than optional donations to support the creators
@yabber-dabber-doo ooooo
This has actually been a thing for a while now, I recommended FlipaClip to a friend like a year ago, and when they installed it they had the whole audio paywall, FlipaClip also has a various other issues that personally drove me away from it and towards other applications, but a large part of it is just that I can’t support the actions of the company
They need money somehow. But I think the paywall should not be on the audio, more rather on something else, Perhaps the more than 3 layers? Cause I bought the $7 pay once thing way back when it was still a thing, and no longer have to pay, and yet I still rarely use more than like 3 layers anyways. I’d rather a small paywall, than a bunch of annoying ads. I just don’t like what they put the paywall on.
Flipaclip trying to explain the thought process:
"Well you see.."
Their mind: MONEY MONEY OHHHHH I LOVE MONEY🤑🤑
JUST BECAUSE OF THIS I might move to adobe next year when my flipaclip plus ends if I don't buy another year
I am glad that i have downloaded flipaclip since like 2020-2021 on my Ipad, This is terrible for new users, this app is now forcing new users to pay just to add audio or layers without watching ad option?!?! Bruh, this is so stupid
@@darksaiyans THIS
@ManticaretheTherian i have a question, i heard that you said that the flipaclip update only affects ios users and new users, does that mean only people who have downloaded flipaclip for the first time on their ios devices are affected by that issue? I am so confused by that 😣
@darksaiyans yes!
this is ridiculous, i used to use flipaclip and this is just dissapointing. paywalling audio is crazy like if that happened on an editing software the public would go crazy but it apparently is okay for animation, ik not the same thing but its just absurd when audio is so essential for animating anything cool. this is just a guess but im pretty sure theyre doing this cuz they have actual competitors now that are taking away the money flow from them, why buy a monthly subscription for a rudimentary animating software with layer caps and other limitations when theres something like toonsquid which is a one time purchase and has a buttload more features? i sincerely hope this backfires and theyll reverse the decision, beginners shouldnt be punished for trying out animation, its whether all or none
I thought I had to only watch an ad to put audio on my video
Thank the LORD I managed to get Toonsquid after so long (being a android user that now managed to get a iPad). It's sad to see the app that used to get praised, actually had respect for it's community, now get corrupted by greed like with every big cooperation. Sad to see the app I've been using for 5 years get turned into a basically pay to animate sort of thing
Wish Toonsquid was available for all devices and for free so that more people can switch to it (the app still confuses me so I have to learn it) but it's amazing nonetheless, at this point flipaclip doesn't deserve its users for what it's doing :c
I'm a beginner animator and flipaclip is the only app I know of. I don't know what to animate on now
Nah bro, Capcut and Flipaclip fighting eachother to see who is the most money hungry 😭😭😭😭😭
I just watch an ad because its free.
Some people don't get that anymore.
If their net worth slows down they better not come wailing
I feel like I dodged a bullet by getting premium when it was a one time payment.
I got flipaclip years ago and got all the permanent upgrades, though I have since permanently moved to krita since flipaclip is actually so laggy it is basically unusable for me.
And honestly with how money hungry flipaclip is getting, people are just better off biting the bullet with toonsquid and actually getting a good app
Theres a thing called apk unlocked but it doesnt have a new UI yet
When i was a kid i used to animate on this app the entire time, now im just disspointed
But, what if I’m NOT a beginner, but I’m still on iPhone?!
@@IzzyGaming-ux1nn you keep it
Switching to toonsquid soon 😔😔
@@BumpyProductions damn
I was one of the unlucky ones who didn't get Flipaclip Premium before it was replaced by Plus, I had to use a modded (and potentially cracked) version of it for my animations JUST because I can't access the audio feature.
Companies are becoming greedy as hell like atleast make the more important ones a lower price or at the very least free (like the audio feature) 😭
I just use basic Flipaclip
Love it when corporations make their apps literally unusable
UGHHH
yup definitely waiting for that one goose animation app(forgot the name) to go to google playstore or any other apps that i can get to my pc without paying anything