Are the lenses on these traditional style helmets better than some of the more advanced newer helmets I'm trying to figure out why a lot of professionals wear the oldest style?
I’m a union hand from the West Coast. Love the video !!!! Another way we do those waterwall tubes is we put in a tig root and then go straight to stick. “Buddy” weldin. Handing the arc at the membrane side. Keep up the good work on this awesome channel !!!!!
I welded with some guys from local 72 in Atlanta. I wasn't a union welder. I ended up fixing their welds. Being a "union" guy doesn't mean anything. It means you give money to your union and they donate your "union" money to democratic politicians. I watched those guys asking all the hands for money because a 40 year "union" hand died and the union wasn't helping his family. I also watched a 36 year union hand retire and the stewards and union reps didn't even show up to congratulate the guy. It's disgusting what I saw the "unions" do. No thanks
@@tynstaci I agree 100% but there a good place to start and because of here schooling and the experience you could gain. You can make a lot more money non union buys it’s not a bad ideal to do there apprenticeship then get out.
Working both Union and None Union for over 30 years. There is good and bad welders in both. But the nice things about working in the union environment is you have a place to practice and test for no cost, your benefits are paid for 100% by the employer, employers pay into your retirement (Pension)package so much per hour, the wages and standards are agreed and stay the same for entire time on the Union agreement. As well as all members pay a death assessment if you die and is given to the Beneficiaries. While working none union you get what they offer and can change when ever employer wants to change your wages, benefits if there is any and standards other than the legal standards they have to follow. I prefer working for a union Environment and there is way more benefits for the worker and my time is compensated better. At least these are some examples of my experiences.
@@tynstaci lol u sound uneducated and any union south of the mason dixon isn’t typically a true union due to the fact most of them are book buyers who never went through the apprenticeship. Most where non union and tested in. Come up north and you won’t be fixing my unions shit I’ll tell you that lol. I’ve worked with plenty of 72 hands. All of them but 2 learned from a trade school then jumped ship. Sad times.
Should of picked up some 3/32 7018 after the Tig root pass and learn to buddy weld learn to pick up the arc up from your partner from the other side of the tube panel, continue the weld on your side and hand off the arc to you partner, clean your weld and get a rod ready to pick up the arc from your partner and repeat / slag welding makes a beautiful weld on the cap if you're welding hot enough especially on stainless stick and don't forget the sponge after milling the tubes !!!!! Also the piece that replaces a blowout is called a Dutchman , and yes I'm a union boilermaker 154 strong!!!
@Shane Johnson I work building and repairing tanks, 98% of the time jj White , matrix , and witherup Is who I work for i worked out of the hall when tanking was slow but after all the coal burners got shut down or converted to gas there's more people on the list waiting for work so it's harder to get work out of the hall I still keep up my common arc up to date ever 6 months it would suck to lose 30 contractors
Union Boilermaker welder apprentice here, local 128. That was a great video, thank you for that. I haven’t started tig welding yet but will definitely be watching this video again when I get into it
Congrats on being an apprentice, but please remember that being a journeyman Boilermaker means you can do any and all of our trade. In over 20 years, I’ve never seen anyone’s union book say “Boilermaker Welder”. They say Journeyman once you bust out. Too many guys think that they are “welders only” and most are only rod burners, not a true welder and there’s a lot of work that has to be done prior to most the welding, such as demo or hanging new panels. Not trying to say anything bad, just trying to change the mindset of some of the younger generation. We need everyone that cares and wants to learn a good trade. I’m a 2nd generation, graduate apprentice out of Local 101. Went to the apprenticeship competition and now I’m a superintendent for a good sized Union Contractor. Just please don’t get stuck focusing on welding. Yes it’s a big part of our trade, but it’s only part of the skill set you will have after you bust out of the apprenticeship.
Worked with some guys out of Local 359 when I was an apprentice. Great guys and willing to teach you everything they knew if you were willing to learn. Get them hours and be safe out there.
Dave Uhl thanks for the advice. I say I’m a boilermaker welder because that’s what I am in the union... I understand that I will learn Mechanic work and that I will do mechanic work. However, in the union I am a PSW (Pressure system welder) and I am going through the PSW program that was introduced to the union around 10 years ago. So when I’m a journeyman I will be a journeyman PSW. I am also on the welders list for dispatch. When a contractor wants welders then they call off the welders list. I have done mechanic work and I enjoy the mechanic work as well. However I am considered a welder
Quinn Howlett when finished with your apprenticeship, you will be a red seal certified journeyperson Boilermaker. Currently you’re a Boilermaker Apprentice, nothing more and nothing less, unless you’re trying to take a welding test for your hall and then plan on buying your book, in which case you wouldn’t be an apprentice at all. But again, best wishes and get out there and make the Boilermakers Union proud by being the best you always can be.
Dave Uhl currently I am a second year Boilermaker PSW apprentice... I was hired into the union as a welder, in a separate welding program. I do not go through the same schooling as the mechanics... I will still be getting my red seal journeyman certification at the end of my apprenticeship, but I will still be a Boilermaker PSW, which is a Boilermaker Welder, getting dispatched from the welders list... I know what I am dude lol
Dude this is one of the coolest videos I’ve seen you guys do!! I wish my school did half of the types of welding that you do. I feel like I would enjoy this type of learning experience
Usually your partner starts on one side and welds towards you. Then takes over feeding and welding until he reaches the other side where you feed him again. And 90% of the time it's root pass gtaw then swap to smaw for fill and cap. The smaw is the actual "buddy welding".
Good video! I’ve been working in the boilers since i was 18, we do it a little different and a lot easier but I know it can be done different ways, great videos !
The only place you need to feed wire to each other is on the sides. That’s a luxury that you can only do if you’re not on a waterfall with a bad draft. Otherwise you just gotta reach back in there and get it. You can burn the bevel off with your arc (if the gap is tight) and feed your wire on the inside to give you more room.
Good video, but usually buddy welding in a boiler is done on the cap with stick. 1 guy fires up and goes to the membrane and then the other guy takes the arc to his rod and does his half and then the 1st guy picks him up and finishes the pass. All the way around and never breaking arc.
Dan Bradford555 In my area, regardless if it’s the wall, a superheat panel or screen tubes, it’s a stick cap. Back pass or econo, then yes, TIG all the way out.
We call passing the arc to each other hot pick ups and the guy picking the arc up had to chip the slag off from the start before he drops hood to pick up arc.
Good video for anyone that wants to be a boilermaker tube welder but y’all got to keep in mind this is just a waterfall simulation and that is the easiest it’ll ever be for ya on a outage. 🤘
@@edohgache 2” 6G heavy wall tube test. TIG root pass, no TIG hot pass, switch to SMAW ( preferably 3/32) for fill and cap. No grinder for the test. File, chipping hammer and wire hand brush only. Good luck.
Pipe has as seam. Tube doesn't. Split the membrane first. Millin motor. Then the grasshopper. It also looks like an element not the water wall. Prep work is ugly as well 😪.
Could you guys do a video about how you pick your tig setup? Like how do you decide what filler wire diameter and cup size to use for different thicknesses or just something where maybe you need a longer stickout to reach. Love the vids and have learned a lot from you guys 👍
Yes sir the way we do it too..tighter gap so less to fill and cap..much quicker..I personally use the back and forth technique I picked up from Jody on welding tips and tricks.
why do they put their tacks at the side and not at the front? i'm a boiler welder myself but we always put our tacks at the front and we always do a bridge tacks... we rarely do that buddy feeding unless there's no way you can reach the side, and we usually weld a much tighter gaps than that. we (my partner) always do our own tie-in at front. whoever finish his tie-in first his partner will look his tie-in if it's good before he do his own tie-in. I'm just curious to know why they do like that. cheers
I have been on plenty of tube jobs and have never done this. It’s always been partner fills you wire for the tacks then you weld a quarter of the tube with your right hand then do the other quarter with your left. Then you pass the torch to your buddy and he does this same. And this is on black liquor boilers.... (and even power house) and if you know anything about that type (black liquor) you know what could go wrong with those hahah
And also forget about the burr grinder, you only use that if you absolutely need it. And if you know how to weld you will almost never need it. (Most companies will give you a couple extra $$ if you do it fast so don’t dick around) And most places never have you TIG the cap unless it’s a repair. It’s almost always 7018 for the cap....
By turning your torch out or down slightly at stop, it prevents that pop that can cause a fisheye and does not leave that glob to start off again and doesn’t require a burring tool. I hate those burr’s down my neck and in my shirt!
looks like in the root you were using a lay wire method of filling the gap, id this correct, and when you guys are saying that you use a longer than "normal" stickout, what cfh do you set your gas on ? interesting video guys =) please keep them coming .
With a stickout that much a jumbo cup would serve you better to keep down porosity and improve the surface oxidation. There's also Pyrex cups to see through. A mini rig (WP-9FV) is rated for 125amps. If cheaply made they burn up often. I just don't see the need to have a light duty rig rig to do that, there's nothing in your way to restrict the movement of the head so why not get a WP-17H with a jumbo stubby and weld in it's capacity?
I'm curious, what % of welds, after inspection, radiograph, pressure testing, end up being considered failed and have to be retouched or cut out and rewelded? Like what is the expected success/failire rate for a reasoanbly competent tube welder?
I’m a retired Union Boilermaker and if you are having a hard time making welds that will pass inspection the contractor you are working for will pull your welding papers for that company and you will not be allowed to weld for them again until you can pass a welding test and re certify and they will probably let the Union hall know also they only want welders that are consistent and do not have any bad welds at all
It depends. They want a 100% pass rate. They know that's impossible, but you better not be fucking up often. Its gotta be once in a blue moon. Also stuff thats gonna be QCed to hell is gonna get the best welders. If youre not the best you'll probably get moved to less demanding welds.
@@samuelbell2390 on critical black liquor boilers it is 100% x ray so every weld has to pass inspection but on most coal fired boilers it is 10% x ray and if that doesn’t pass they will start x raying more until they find out what the problem is and correct it
Don't do the weave on the fill pass. It takes to long and tends to undercut on the top. I've took a test for the power industry last year. It was a gap - 5/32 with a 3/ 32 filler ( the inspector was very strict with the gap and filler size, nothing more, nothing less) 120 for the root, 150 for the fill with 2 stringers , 150 for the first two stringers on cap , 125 - 135 for the last. The membrane ( distance between the pipes) was 3/8. Time limit - 60 minutes for two joints.
I’m a boilermaker out of local 85 there a lot easier way to buddy weld then the way you guys doing it first one idk why your tigging it all the way out grab a buddy whip and stick weld it can crank out Aton of tubes a night and when your on the side of the tube where the membrane would be u can have your partner feed you the wife instead of holding ur wire at the top joint
@CalikuhL you are absolutely correct! Pipes are for conveying liquids and are not high-pressure tubes. Yes there is water in tubes but mostly steam and pressure. Pipes will explode under similar pressures.
Glad to see something using tig something other than stick welding on pipe flanges or on a welding bed thats crude as a farmer built it , different from oil and gas welding for a living tig welding is were its at besides other ways to make a living living I a fithwheel trailer and going to job to job u know who u are !
Man y’all’s videos are so informative, I been a pipe welder for 21 years now, I would love to come visit y’all’s school and check it out, I’m from Louisiana let me know where y’all at and when I can come visit!
Is a pressure test applied when you do a repair on boiler pipe. Or a UT...??! Also I thought those welds came out pretty good considering the restrictions... good job partnering that weld. That can’t be easy...
I don’t think they will put the squeeze on tubes in a class. Mostly visual instruction. Maybe they could cut coupons for bind-test. Non-destructive such as x-ray ( not practical in class situations for obvious reasons.)
The membrane between the tubes on either side of the tube that you're welding on prevents them from moving. If you're on a emergency outage the plant wants the boiler up as fast as possible. So they aren't going to want to take the time to remove and replace any extra membrane. We do use wedges to spread tubes in other areas though.
You're not supposed to, lol. At least from what I've seen. Code dictates TIG. Ive seen exceptions made for a huge string of tube cutouts where its quicker to root with tig and cap with stick, but 99% of tube work ive seen is with tig. Im a boilermaker welder up in Canada
@@vangoghsseveredear It depends on what kind of tubes you’re welding in the boiler. Some you TIG all the way out and some you TIG root and hot pass, then SMAW fill and cap. It’s all dependent upon obstruction, thickness and material of the metal.
My father was a Boilermakers as well as me and he told me a similar story about coat hangers. I always thought it was just his way of saying that we can do it, no matter what it takes. My favorite is; “I have been doing so much, for so long, with so little, that I’m now qualified to do anything, with nothing!”
Local 29. Usually, we feed each other on the sides, but weld our own sides ourselves. Buddy weld hot pick-up after a tig hot pass... Good video though.
All welders will eventually learn possibly someday that the only way you really going to ever get to really enjoy your craft of welding is to have your own shop and be in business for yourself because one of the worst things about the field of welding are the other people that you have to weld with and weld around , it's a hard crew to get along with and no matter what you do or how much you do you never can satisfy the supervisor it seems like but if you got your own shop you can weld according to your own pace and you can build and weld whatever you want. I've noticed on jobs that I've been on offshore and inland before I retired it was always some other welder that was knifing me in the back out of jealousy. I hate to say it but most welders are alchoholics, and that reason alone if no other makes him a hard bunch to work with. Go to the channel of moseseseseses, type in: $3000.00 a day welding in your own back yard.
It don't matter union or non union on push through, recommended flush or a hair above flush, as far partner feeding wire is complete bs on water walls unless you're on floor, roof or nose arch tubes
I noticed how you guys fit up the tubes....we use 2” angle with a welded nut and a bolt on one side and L shape plate welded on the other....those L shape will hook on the fins...(those longitudinal bar mostly 1/4 “ thick that’s welded in between the tubes)...you’ll figure it out which end you have to put it looking at the orientation of the tube,..that’s for up and down alignment,side to side...we use wedge..On welding, we supply filler on the other welder just on the corner, once able we supply ourselves....one thing about boilermaker you should be able to weld left and right...it gets easier.....but if you don’t know how to use your inferior hand,you’re bound to call a lot of saints in the process. I could not stand those soot when it turned to a slimy stuff...makes my skin dark and greenish..I’ll get allergic reaction to it...although boiler job is exciting I never miss it because of those
@@mattharper588 he’s obviously talking about the sides. I’m a Boilermaker. We only feed wire to our partner on the sides (in between the tubes), then once your welded out from the sides you feed wire yourself.
@@LeadRakFPS I have no idea why you are responding to me,I’m a retired Union Boilermaker and we weld tube’s exactly how you explained you must have me confused with someone else’s comment keep the hood down and get after that money $$$
@matt harper 🤣 Because you were asking, "Where is there a corner on a round tube?" I was just pointing out that they were clearly talking about the sides when they said, "corner".
Kind of an Ignoarnt comment. As a Pipefitter Welder, We respect Boilermakers for what they go through, They do things we couldnt do and we do things they couldnt do, both trades are superior in their own way. At the end of the day, most Boilys become Pipefitters for better wages, cleaner work, or to work closer to home.
@@bobhaddick2127 man I worked on a pipefitter job (I’m a pf) and they had a bunch of pipeline guys helping man the job. We had to make 128 stainless tig repairs in the field
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Are the lenses on these traditional style helmets better than some of the more advanced newer helmets I'm trying to figure out why a lot of professionals wear the oldest style?
Great video. Rough caps though.
Boilermakers are absolutely elite welders.
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I’m a union hand from the West Coast. Love the video !!!! Another way we do those waterwall tubes is we put in a tig root and then go straight to stick. “Buddy” weldin. Handing the arc at the membrane side. Keep up the good work on this awesome channel !!!!!
I welded with some guys from local 72 in Atlanta. I wasn't a union welder. I ended up fixing their welds. Being a "union" guy doesn't mean anything. It means you give money to your union and they donate your "union" money to democratic politicians. I watched those guys asking all the hands for money because a 40 year "union" hand died and the union wasn't helping his family. I also watched a 36 year union hand retire and the stewards and union reps didn't even show up to congratulate the guy. It's disgusting what I saw the "unions" do. No thanks
@@tynstaci I agree 100% but there a good place to start and because of here schooling and the experience you could gain. You can make a lot more money non union buys it’s not a bad ideal to do there apprenticeship then get out.
Working both Union and None Union for over 30 years. There is good and bad welders in both. But the nice things about working in the union environment is you have a place to practice and test for no cost, your benefits are paid for 100% by the employer, employers pay into your retirement (Pension)package so much per hour, the wages and standards are agreed and stay the same for entire time on the Union agreement. As well as all members pay a death assessment if you die and is given to the Beneficiaries. While working none union you get what they offer and can change when ever employer wants to change your wages, benefits if there is any and standards other than the legal standards they have to follow.
I prefer working for a union Environment and there is way more benefits for the worker and my time is compensated better. At least these are some examples of my experiences.
@@tynstaci lol u sound uneducated and any union south of the mason dixon isn’t typically a true union due to the fact most of them are book buyers who never went through the apprenticeship. Most where non union and tested in. Come up north and you won’t be fixing my unions shit I’ll tell you that lol. I’ve worked with plenty of 72 hands. All of them but 2 learned from a trade school then jumped ship. Sad times.
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Should of picked up some 3/32 7018 after the Tig root pass and learn to buddy weld learn to pick up the arc up from your partner from the other side of the tube panel, continue the weld on your side and hand off the arc to you partner, clean your weld and get a rod ready to pick up the arc from your partner and repeat / slag welding makes a beautiful weld on the cap if you're welding hot enough especially on stainless stick and don't forget the sponge after milling the tubes !!!!! Also the piece that replaces a blowout is called a Dutchman , and yes I'm a union boilermaker 154 strong!!!
Local 101 here!!
@Shane Johnson what local you out of ?
@Shane Johnson I work building and repairing tanks, 98% of the time jj White , matrix , and witherup Is who I work for i worked out of the hall when tanking was slow but after all the coal burners got shut down or converted to gas there's more people on the list waiting for work so it's harder to get work out of the hall I still keep up my common arc up to date ever 6 months it would suck to lose 30 contractors
@Shane Johnson yes sir I am goats on the floor and 3:00 on the shell
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Love this video. You are the man Abe, and Xavier is a testament to the work you guys do at south coast. Great work fellas.
Thanks bro!!
Im applying too the boilermakers union Thursday 🙏 hopefully we go back to our normal lives already. Great video like always guys 💯🔥👨🏭
What local you join
Union Boilermaker welder apprentice here, local 128. That was a great video, thank you for that. I haven’t started tig welding yet but will definitely be watching this video again when I get into it
Congrats on being an apprentice, but please remember that being a journeyman Boilermaker means you can do any and all of our trade. In over 20 years, I’ve never seen anyone’s union book say “Boilermaker Welder”. They say Journeyman once you bust out. Too many guys think that they are “welders only” and most are only rod burners, not a true welder and there’s a lot of work that has to be done prior to most the welding, such as demo or hanging new panels. Not trying to say anything bad, just trying to change the mindset of some of the younger generation. We need everyone that cares and wants to learn a good trade. I’m a 2nd generation, graduate apprentice out of Local 101. Went to the apprenticeship competition and now I’m a superintendent for a good sized Union Contractor. Just please don’t get stuck focusing on welding. Yes it’s a big part of our trade, but it’s only part of the skill set you will have after you bust out of the apprenticeship.
Worked with some guys out of Local 359 when I was an apprentice. Great guys and willing to teach you everything they knew if you were willing to learn. Get them hours and be safe out there.
Dave Uhl thanks for the advice. I say I’m a boilermaker welder because that’s what I am in the union... I understand that I will learn Mechanic work and that I will do mechanic work. However, in the union I am a PSW (Pressure system welder) and I am going through the PSW program that was introduced to the union around 10 years ago. So when I’m a journeyman I will be a journeyman PSW. I am also on the welders list for dispatch. When a contractor wants welders then they call off the welders list. I have done mechanic work and I enjoy the mechanic work as well. However I am considered a welder
Quinn Howlett when finished with your apprenticeship, you will be a red seal certified journeyperson Boilermaker. Currently you’re a Boilermaker Apprentice, nothing more and nothing less, unless you’re trying to take a welding test for your hall and then plan on buying your book, in which case you wouldn’t be an apprentice at all. But again, best wishes and get out there and make the Boilermakers Union proud by being the best you always can be.
Dave Uhl currently I am a second year Boilermaker PSW apprentice... I was hired into the union as a welder, in a separate welding program. I do not go through the same schooling as the mechanics... I will still be getting my red seal journeyman certification at the end of my apprenticeship, but I will still be a Boilermaker PSW, which is a Boilermaker Welder, getting dispatched from the welders list... I know what I am dude lol
Such a great video! I like the quiet weld time filled with ghosty voice over
Dude this is one of the coolest videos I’ve seen you guys do!! I wish my school did half of the types of welding that you do. I feel like I would enjoy this type of learning experience
Usually your partner starts on one side and welds towards you. Then takes over feeding and welding until he reaches the other side where you feed him again. And 90% of the time it's root pass gtaw then swap to smaw for fill and cap. The smaw is the actual "buddy welding".
Proud to be a boilermaker union member
Hey congrats I’ll be joining soon hopefully
Thank you. I’m applying for boilermaking right now. Beautiful video that gives me
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Great video! Abraham is one of my favorites to watch!
Good video! I’ve been working in the boilers since i was 18, we do it a little different and a lot easier but I know it can be done different ways, great videos !
how u mean lot easier tho? every time i do or watch thise boilers seems hard anyway u do it
The only place you need to feed wire to each other is on the sides. That’s a luxury that you can only do if you’re not on a waterfall with a bad draft. Otherwise you just gotta reach back in there and get it. You can burn the bevel off with your arc (if the gap is tight) and feed your wire on the inside to give you more room.
I work on a power station in operating, I have huge respect for the people that repair tube leaks.
Good video, but usually buddy welding in a boiler is done on the cap with stick. 1 guy fires up and goes to the membrane and then the other guy takes the arc to his rod and does his half and then the 1st guy picks him up and finishes the pass. All the way around and never breaking arc.
On wall panels it is usually stick cap but individual pups it's usually tig all the way through
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In my area, regardless if it’s the wall, a superheat panel or screen tubes, it’s a stick cap. Back pass or econo, then yes, TIG all the way out.
If you are fighting a draft on the water wall you can also stick the hot pass.
We call passing the arc to each other hot pick ups and the guy picking the arc up had to chip the slag off from the start before he drops hood to pick up arc.
And true buddy welding is done off the same machine with a Y for the stingers.
Good video for anyone that wants to be a boilermaker tube welder but y’all got to keep in mind this is just a waterfall simulation and that is the easiest it’ll ever be for ya on a outage. 🤘
Without a doubt bud that aint no 6 deep in the mirror economizer weld
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Only boiler RAT....
Please, What type of test should I be ready to take to be a boiler maker welder?
@@edohgache 2” 6G heavy wall tube test. TIG root pass, no TIG hot pass, switch to SMAW ( preferably 3/32) for fill and cap. No grinder for the test. File, chipping hammer and wire hand brush only. Good luck.
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Lets see some superheats. Mirror welding
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Me as a boilermaker screaming at my phone.. ITS NOT PIPE ITS TUBES!!!
Pipe has as seam. Tube doesn't. Split the membrane first. Millin motor. Then the grasshopper. It also looks like an element not the water wall. Prep work is ugly as well 😪.
Typical
There's seamless pipe dipshit
@@raylegg2269, I was wondering the difference.
Just getting started on the waterwall, those tangents are tricky. Boilermakers Local 128 baby!!
Could you guys do a video about how you pick your tig setup? Like how do you decide what filler wire diameter and cup size to use for different thicknesses or just something where maybe you need a longer stickout to reach. Love the vids and have learned a lot from you guys 👍
You guys always have excellent videos!!😎😎
3/32 gap 1/8 wire about 135 amps. Faster, but alot less forgiving. Nice video. Not many people doing boiler tube videos
Yes sir the way we do it too..tighter gap so less to fill and cap..much quicker..I personally use the back and forth technique I picked up from Jody on welding tips and tricks.
why do they put their tacks at the side and not at the front? i'm a boiler welder myself but we always put our tacks at the front and we always do a bridge tacks... we rarely do that buddy feeding unless there's no way you can reach the side, and we usually weld a much tighter gaps than that. we (my partner) always do our own tie-in at front. whoever finish his tie-in first his partner will look his tie-in if it's good before he do his own tie-in. I'm just curious to know why they do like that. cheers
Tube is seamless and measured od. Pipe can have a seam but also can be seamless but is always measured id at 12” and under
Just wondering why you are tiging it all the way out. I've always tiged the root and hot pass then buddy whipped it out with stick
It all depends on the welding procedure. It could be tig root 7018 hot pass n cap. Or it could be tig all the way out.
For the money.
Great Job.
Why American Welders never use GTAW with HF and down slope?
I have been on plenty of tube jobs and have never done this. It’s always been partner fills you wire for the tacks then you weld a quarter of the tube with your right hand then do the other quarter with your left. Then you pass the torch to your buddy and he does this same. And this is on black liquor boilers.... (and even power house) and if you know anything about that type (black liquor) you know what could go wrong with those hahah
And also forget about the burr grinder, you only use that if you absolutely need it. And if you know how to weld you will almost never need it. (Most companies will give you a couple extra $$ if you do it fast so don’t dick around) And most places never have you TIG the cap unless it’s a repair. It’s almost always 7018 for the cap....
By turning your torch out or down slightly at stop, it prevents that pop that can cause a fisheye and does not leave that glob to start off again and doesn’t require a burring tool. I hate those burr’s down my neck and in my shirt!
looks like in the root you were using a lay wire method of filling the gap, id this correct, and when you guys are saying that you use a longer than "normal" stickout, what cfh do you set your gas on ? interesting video guys =) please keep them coming .
very good trade the boilermaker union works in many industries
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yall forgot to mention the specs of the smaller conversion of the head on the tig rig if im not mistaken it looks smaller
They’re using a 9FV head. You don’t want a big rig in there because you need to be able to see around the cup at times
With a stickout that much a jumbo cup would serve you better to keep down porosity and improve the surface oxidation. There's also Pyrex cups to see through. A mini rig (WP-9FV) is rated for 125amps. If cheaply made they burn up often. I just don't see the need to have a light duty rig rig to do that, there's nothing in your way to restrict the movement of the head so why not get a WP-17H with a jumbo stubby and weld in it's capacity?
I'm curious, what % of welds, after inspection, radiograph, pressure testing, end up being considered failed and have to be retouched or cut out and rewelded? Like what is the expected success/failire rate for a reasoanbly competent tube welder?
I’m a retired Union Boilermaker and if you are having a hard time making welds that will pass inspection the contractor you are working for will pull your welding papers for that company and you will not be allowed to weld for them again until you can pass a welding test and re certify and they will probably let the Union hall know also they only want welders that are consistent and do not have any bad welds at all
It depends. They want a 100% pass rate. They know that's impossible, but you better not be fucking up often. Its gotta be once in a blue moon.
Also stuff thats gonna be QCed to hell is gonna get the best welders. If youre not the best you'll probably get moved to less demanding welds.
@@samuelbell2390 on critical black liquor boilers it is 100% x ray so every weld has to pass inspection but on most coal fired boilers it is 10% x ray and if that doesn’t pass they will start x raying more until they find out what the problem is and correct it
Don't do the weave on the fill pass. It takes to long and tends to undercut on the top. I've took a test for the power industry last year. It was a gap - 5/32 with a 3/ 32 filler ( the inspector was very strict with the gap and filler size, nothing more, nothing less) 120 for the root, 150 for the fill with 2 stringers , 150 for the first two stringers on cap , 125 - 135 for the last. The membrane ( distance between the pipes) was 3/8. Time limit - 60 minutes for two joints.
Interesting welding technique
Boilermaker local 584 ✌️ good stuff guys
Thanks brothers 🤛🏾
Way back 1990 quazvin iran boiler power plant project.we are using gtaw smaw process for 2 inch diameter pipe.especialy in a 45 degree position.
Started from the boiler now were here 😜😜😜
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I’m a boilermaker out of local 85 there a lot easier way to buddy weld then the way you guys doing it first one idk why your tigging it all the way out grab a buddy whip and stick weld it can crank out Aton of tubes a night and when your on the side of the tube where the membrane would be u can have your partner feed you the wife instead of holding ur wire at the top joint
👍👍 thanks for sharing your videos and jobs.
Love the setup brilliant
What’s the purpose of buddy feeding??
For those that don’t know the difference between a tube and a pipe. Steam flows through a tube and shit flows down a pipe! 🤓
Thats not necessary true. Steam flows through tubes and pipes, it is dependent on the package or prints as always.
Brian B Boiermakers really only need to look at prints to see how the engineers f up.
Not true, there’s boilers specifically called watertube boilers. The tubes are filled with water. So not necessarily just steam will be seen in tubes.
@CalikuhL you are absolutely correct! Pipes are for conveying liquids and are not high-pressure tubes. Yes there is water in tubes but mostly steam and pressure. Pipes will explode under similar pressures.
This is where u separate the boys from the men👌🏽left and right hand welder👊🏼
Glad to see something using tig something other than stick welding on pipe flanges or on a welding bed thats crude as a farmer built it , different from oil and gas welding for a living tig welding is were its at besides other ways to make a living living I a fithwheel trailer and going to job to job u know who u are !
Wishing i lived in Houston to apply at SouthCoast
For tig right? Cuz from your profile pic it looks like your a bad ass on stick 😜😜😜😜😜
Ruben Rios yes!! Haven’t gotten right on some tig welding
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Where you reside at? And is there any work over there?
Very nice work
How is tbe weekly pay for a journey with great companies?
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Why did you not stick the cap
Boilermaker local 154 good job brothers
Nice, boiler-buddies
You guys are good
Nice vide with good info.
Do they typically have a machine with lift arc in the field when doing this or do you have to scratch start?
Most contractors rent Miller XMT or a Lincoln equivalent, which has lift arc, and can stick, then run a Suitcase for FCAW the membrane between tubes.
Just stick with scratch start. Then you don’t have to worry if you have to switch polarity midstream. You won’t have to climb out of the hole
Man y’all’s videos are so informative, I been a pipe welder for 21 years now, I would love to come visit y’all’s school and check it out, I’m from Louisiana let me know where y’all at and when I can come visit!
Its been great to watch tech videos in social media. Could u pls anyone share the time required to weld 2inch tube by TIG.
Is a pressure test applied when you do a repair on boiler pipe. Or a UT...??! Also I thought those welds came out pretty good considering the restrictions... good job partnering that weld. That can’t be easy...
they usually xray 100% or at least a percentage but they hydro the boiler afterwards anyways so theyll find any leak
I don’t think they will put the squeeze on tubes in a class. Mostly visual instruction. Maybe they could cut coupons for bind-test. Non-destructive such as x-ray ( not practical in class situations for obvious reasons.)
*Boiler Tubes. Not pipes.
Cool video fellas
Is it GTAW?
Thank for this video
Why not run the fill and caps with you partner feed you the wire?
Very good tecnick back and fower exelent 👏👏👏
Put a wooden wedge in there and create more space
The membrane between the tubes on either side of the tube that you're welding on prevents them from moving. If you're on a emergency outage the plant wants the boiler up as fast as possible. So they aren't going to want to take the time to remove and replace any extra membrane. We do use wedges to spread tubes in other areas though.
You can always tell a pipe weldee from a tube welder by the back cap
7018 runout??
great video! can we use SMAW to weld the boiler tube?
You're not supposed to, lol. At least from what I've seen. Code dictates TIG. Ive seen exceptions made for a huge string of tube cutouts where its quicker to root with tig and cap with stick, but 99% of tube work ive seen is with tig. Im a boilermaker welder up in Canada
@@vangoghsseveredear okay, thank you. Nice to meet you sir
Not Section I of ASTM Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code. What "Code" are you talking about?
@@vangoghsseveredear It depends on what kind of tubes you’re welding in the boiler. Some you TIG all the way out and some you TIG root and hot pass, then SMAW fill and cap. It’s all dependent upon obstruction, thickness and material of the metal.
Great video thanks.
Old time boilermakers call it heli-arc, not tig. Tig is for making french fry machines.
Why didn’t you show Xavier side?
At 12:49, you need to cover both bevels with your cap.
Y’all selling them long sleeve tee shirts?
Waterwall best job on the boiler 🤟
Your ostrich hood is badass where did you get it
Nice job as always
wheres your wall bangers?
i worked in a job shop in memphis back in the early 60s,had to build some boiler tubes and welded them with a torch and coat hanger wires
My father was a Boilermakers as well as me and he told me a similar story about coat hangers. I always thought it was just his way of saying that we can do it, no matter what it takes.
My favorite is; “I have been doing so much, for so long, with so little, that I’m now qualified to do anything, with nothing!”
What kind of grinder u used for feathering?
90°die grinder with a biting tool.
Good job bro..... 🥰
Local 29. Usually, we feed each other on the sides, but weld our own sides ourselves. Buddy weld hot pick-up after a tig hot pass... Good video though.
All welders will eventually learn possibly someday that the only way you really going to ever get to really enjoy your craft of welding is to have your own shop and be in business for yourself because one of the worst things about the field of welding are the other people that you have to weld with and weld around , it's a hard crew to get along with and no matter what you do or how much you do you never can satisfy the supervisor it seems like but if you got your own shop you can weld according to your own pace and you can build and weld whatever you want. I've noticed on jobs that I've been on offshore and inland before I retired it was always some other welder that was knifing me in the back out of jealousy. I hate to say it but most welders are alchoholics, and that reason alone if no other makes him a hard bunch to work with. Go to the channel of moseseseseses, type in: $3000.00 a day welding in your own back yard.
Thanks gents!
Badass, I wanna get weld tube welding gloves and south coast shirts where can I get some??
WeldTube I’ll sure be waiting 💪
Hey I don’t know if y’all do requested videos but I wanna see more piperack welding and other plant scenarios
Good job
It don't matter union or non union on push through, recommended flush or a hair above flush, as far partner feeding wire is complete bs on water walls unless you're on floor, roof or nose arch tubes
Apparently you’ve never done tangent tubes.
Cap didnt look bad at all bro!
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I noticed how you guys fit up the tubes....we use 2” angle with a welded nut and a bolt on one side and L shape plate welded on the other....those L shape will hook on the fins...(those longitudinal bar mostly 1/4 “ thick that’s welded in between the tubes)...you’ll figure it out which end you have to put it looking at the orientation of the tube,..that’s for up and down alignment,side to side...we use wedge..On welding, we supply filler on the other welder just on the corner, once able we supply ourselves....one thing about boilermaker you should be able to weld left and right...it gets easier.....but if you don’t know how to use your inferior hand,you’re bound to call a lot of saints in the process. I could not stand those soot when it turned to a slimy stuff...makes my skin dark and greenish..I’ll get allergic reaction to it...although boiler job is exciting I never miss it because of those
Where is there a corner on a round tube
@@mattharper588 he’s obviously talking about the sides. I’m a Boilermaker. We only feed wire to our partner on the sides (in between the tubes), then once your welded out from the sides you feed wire yourself.
@@LeadRakFPS I have no idea why you are responding to me,I’m a retired Union Boilermaker and we weld tube’s exactly how you explained you must have me confused with someone else’s comment keep the hood down and get after that money $$$
@matt harper 🤣 Because you were asking, "Where is there a corner on a round tube?"
I was just pointing out that they were clearly talking about the sides when they said, "corner".
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I think this pays over $100 an hour in Canada if you can pull this off.
Show this pipe line welders what a real welding is
It's all welding my guy!
Kind of an Ignoarnt comment. As a Pipefitter Welder, We respect Boilermakers for what they go through, They do things we couldnt do and we do things they couldnt do, both trades are superior in their own way. At the end of the day, most Boilys become Pipefitters for better wages, cleaner work, or to work closer to home.
As pipeliner, this is hats off, for me that is, tedious compared giant puddle flying down
@@bobhaddick2127 man I worked on a pipefitter job (I’m a pf) and they had a bunch of pipeline guys helping man the job. We had to make 128 stainless tig repairs in the field
@@bobhaddick2127 name one thing a pipe welder can do that a tube welder can’t.
Great job dudes its harder than it looks pick up the torch and try keep it up Abraham and Xavier its not always that easy lol
Very good