Entry Level Thermal Monocular Advice || HIK Micro Falcon FH25 User Impressions

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  • It's a common question - what entry level thermal should I get. This is my personal opinion on device base specifications, be that HIK Micro, Pulsar, Infiray or Thermtec. Yes I have a HIK monocular in this video, but the reputable brands will have devices with similar specifications if you'd prefer a broader consideration. Ideally, get out to a store you can hands on and test a few out. If you can't do that, I have device recordings and my take on the "entry level" HIK Micro Falcon FH25 in this video.
    Big thanks to TSA in Australia for sending me the Falcon to play with. Without support from companies who are proactive in the hunting industry, these video's are not possible with the speed tech is evolving.
    I hope this can help a few people out on the thermal journey, or reinforce a few aspects I prefer on devices.
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  • @allanford1365
    @allanford1365 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A very informative video. This will help those looking to get the best gear for their activities and dollars to spend. Not all retailers have that depth of knowledge based on use so you're helping first time buyers and those wishing to up grade. Excellent advice, well presented, thanks.

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @garytrigg-graynoth4034
      @garytrigg-graynoth4034 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      am looking at the HM Falcon FQ25, thoughts? oh great vids by the way absolutely love them👊

  • @MrRebar15
    @MrRebar15 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *EDGE of the OUTBACK* Bravo well done, thank-you sir for taking the time to show us. GOD Bless.

  • @mrpoopypants9586
    @mrpoopypants9586 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks Edger. Your vids have really sucked me back into an interest in shooting after many years away.Appreciate that you don't shy away from giving an opinion, as well as a few bits of data. Very interested in your methods and reasoning in these vids. Keep 'em coming mate. Cheers PP

  • @michaelosullivan1248
    @michaelosullivan1248 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I settled on Infiray FH35R and it has been a huge success here in Tassie looking at deer and wallabies it truly is one of my favourite possessions.And seeing your review certainly was a big part of my decision as was the review on Pulsar XQ50 thermal scope which also has been a huge success.Although there is obviously better scopes out there the Pulsar does the job with ease .So a big thanks to you Nathan.

  • @RobJ351
    @RobJ351 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks Nathan great info , looking forward to your next content

  • @kentcartner1612
    @kentcartner1612 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Solid advice. Good ID is key. Getting closer is required if you go with cheaper units. Still 20x better than a spotlight

  • @OutbackTrekkingGeorgeLeov
    @OutbackTrekkingGeorgeLeov ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cheers mate, definitely a good overview. Thanks to your advice I'll be saving up for the higher range of thermals!
    P.s. love your content, can't get enough so keep it coming!

  • @jasyamaha
    @jasyamaha ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent, thanks mate. I'm almost ready, bummer you said 2 to 3k base price bracket but I get it. This was just what I needed to see.

  • @aplacemarkedx5026
    @aplacemarkedx5026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After watching all your footage with those beaut high end thermals, I invested in a sub $600 unit. It plugs into a smartphone and runs through an app called "Xinfrared", and it's ok for the price. Great for tracking kills, and combined with night vision definitely fills a void. Still saving for a pulsar tho😁 thanks Nathan and keep up the Stirling work. Straya thanks ya👍

  • @mrdojob
    @mrdojob ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think infiray thermal modules that plug into a mobile phone can't be overlooked. I have the T2 Pro and for the money (£350), it's outstanding. They really managed to cut costs right back by using a phone as a host, display and processing unit. They also do a T3 which is a step up and has a wide field of view.
    Best of all, they're tiny and can fit into a pocket without raising eyebrows. I carry mine with me all the time in my jeans pocket if I feel I might need it for whatever reason. It blows all other thermals out the water with portability. You might lose it if you're not careful seeing the T2 is barely bigger than a plastic bottle cap.
    I am looking in getting a good standalone thermal as the T2 Pro has shown me how good thermal is, perhaps I might stretch to a Helion XP50 pro, but I'll never get rid of the T2 pro.

  • @petermilne9598
    @petermilne9598 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You do a great job on Reviews
    Hik has leapt ahead this last year - think they might tip the other 2 off the top

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's an extremely competitive market that's for sure.

    • @andybrock100
      @andybrock100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I use a Telos for spotting and Hik Stellar SQ50 for shooting. Pulsar gear is tried and tested over many years and it’s quality, and reliability second to none, it’ll be interesting if the likes of Hik and the other Chinese manufacturers are still around in a few years!

  • @andrewsteele7663
    @andrewsteele7663 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Nathan, excellent video, Cheers

  • @derekedgley5074
    @derekedgley5074 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I follow Nathan. Whatever he uses I buy and I’ve not gone wrong, but he’s cost me a bloody fortune. That being said, there’s not a better reviewer out there.

  • @petershoobridge6476
    @petershoobridge6476 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well presented as usual 👍😎

  • @legend7ify
    @legend7ify ปีที่แล้ว +2

    .............G'day,
    good to see the lower-priced stepping up.
    Cheers,
    Malcolm.

  • @michael-fb7ps
    @michael-fb7ps ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great bit of kit mate

  • @jorgfregin182
    @jorgfregin182 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good advice 👍

  • @Meteryman
    @Meteryman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great insight. Thanks Mate.

  • @andybrock100
    @andybrock100 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Personally if I was just getting into thermal I’d go for a secondhand 640 unit, rather than a new 320. With the introduction of the Pulsar Telos LRF there’s plenty of Helion XP50 pro’s for sale, which in my opinion is the best hand held spotter.

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Helions are a fantastic eyepiece image. Just really bad WiFi if you want to run a remote screen.

    • @mrdojob
      @mrdojob ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn't overlook the mobile plug in thermals from Infiray. The T2 pro and T3 are perhaps the cheapest thermals available because they use a mobile phone as the host but they're honestly powerful.
      I have the T2 Pro and it's outstanding for the money. The T3 is another interesting one with an insane field of view.

  • @omarhammoud7223
    @omarhammoud7223 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this, fantastic info and well presented, made my choice, thank you

  • @phillloyd80
    @phillloyd80 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nathan I would like to know if you have had any experience with the Pulsar Krypton 2 clip on thermal? Your vids are always entertaining and informative, cheers.

  • @ggeorges5135
    @ggeorges5135 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love that 'Buy once, cry once' lol

    • @jo300hn
      @jo300hn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      poorman pays twice, buy well and never sell.

  • @IIIRAYDENIII
    @IIIRAYDENIII 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome!

  • @Operation_Far_North
    @Operation_Far_North 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I recently got a FH25 off Ben.
    Pigs on the farm are in trouble now!!

  • @LHJC10
    @LHJC10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video very informative for us noobs

  • @messianicmuse
    @messianicmuse ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you're on granite country, these are absolutely shit. You can't tell the difference between pigs, sheep, and granite rock. I just sold mine and I'm sticking to our new Pulsar Thermion 2 XP50 LRF that you recommended. It is absolutely amazing! Also got rid of my night vision scope too.

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Granite is very hard on thermal, especially entry level.

    • @nicolascaviale5605
      @nicolascaviale5605 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi there thank you for your amazing video. I have learnt a lot. What do you think of the Guide TL430 LRF Multispectral Fusion Thermal Monocular Handheld please. Thank you

  • @brnatlas9611
    @brnatlas9611 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This would be good for a scan to find stuff then use the scope you put your money into to get ID

  • @russellmm
    @russellmm ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am not a hunter but have been looking for a device for awhile here in the USA. We have FLIR and AGM as kind of the lower cost solutions here. One thing I am confused about is where "Export" restrictions come into play. Most of these devices are imported from China. It's unclear if I am "allowed" to take them on a trip with me to South Africa or other countries on a safari

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry I'm only familiar with the Australian regulations

    • @russellmm
      @russellmm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JHruby Thanks. I am not looking to hunt with them. More along the lines of the night time game drives where I want to be able to look for animals as opposed to the one light shining around looking for eyes staring back at you.

    • @JohanWiid
      @JohanWiid ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They are legal here in South Africa. I'm in the market for one myself and found this review very helpful.

  • @peteoburrito920
    @peteoburrito920 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Nathan I think it is. I was looking at buying the XL50 from hunt the night off your link. I’ve never owned or used a thermal before but don’t want to buy something too cheap then regret it. I’ll mainly be using it on my 22lr and 223 for rabbits, foxes pigs and deer all within 200m do you think it’s the right scope if I’m willing to spend the money.

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The XL is certainly top level if you want the best image in a Pulsar, absolutely the image at 3.5x is still amazing. 1.75x is very useful if you do shoot under say 30-40 meters on animals running around. The Thermion 2 XG50 is still a fantastic device with a 3x base mag, I still really rate mine. Make sure you get a scanner as well, so don't blow the full wad on a scope alone. You'll regret that.

  • @MaxMagoo
    @MaxMagoo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thermal equipment is waaay too expensive for me (according to my wife). To another question: is it possible to do a rundown on how You have kitted out your quad bike?
    Cheers!

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey mate, you'll need to dig back on the channel, I have already done that video on the quad a few years back.

    • @MaxMagoo
      @MaxMagoo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gotcha!! I thought I had looked through all content. This is actually great news, now I have a reason to go through it all again! (To my, non hunting wife’s great joy!)

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂 My wife hasn't watched a single one of my vids so I can understand her pain 😂

  • @peteoburrito920
    @peteoburrito920 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m just not sure about the 1.75X base magnification but it’s still really clear at 3.5 magnification isn’t it?

  • @richardvandb6558
    @richardvandb6558 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks I’m in the market for my handheld thermal. How do you rangefind at night.?

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I run a thermal with a rangefinder personally

  • @brnatlas9611
    @brnatlas9611 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Missus hates when I start watching your videos…

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine won't watch them so don't sweat it lol

  • @Adventure-MTB
    @Adventure-MTB 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great info , what thermal would get as the best HIKMICRO Falcon fq 35 or 50 or zeiss 4/35 ? what would buy it for birding all kinds of birding open and bush areas ? Thanks

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi mate. Absolutely can have that discussion, but it's a conversation you'll need to be involved with my upper tiers on Patreon to have.
      Sorry, but I don't receive any revenue for sales or time invested to help otherwise.
      Hope you understand, but I get a lot of these requests now. I'm happy to help, but I need to draw a line.
      www.patreon.com/user?u=37396112

  • @stephengatley8144
    @stephengatley8144 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My kit is pretty basic but it consists of an Pulsar XM30F, Vortex Crossfire HD 1400 Rangefinder, Vortex Crossfire 10x50 Binoculars & Marsupial Harness mind you i am not a rifle shooter so my target identification is much closer for archery. Buy the gear that suits your needs fellas!...

    • @jjkill3847
      @jjkill3847 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol all that talk for a bow. . U the man kill. I hope I never run into u lol

    • @stephengatley8144
      @stephengatley8144 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jjkill3847 Oh edgy!. I also use a knife btw lol...

  • @cyclo360
    @cyclo360 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just scraped through....I bought a Hik Lynx pro Lh 25 $2400...phew 😮

  • @stephenjones9868
    @stephenjones9868 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey mate haven't seen a decent review of the latest 20mk 640 HIK Micro PQ50L or the more basic Thunder TQ35, any chance of review ??

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe in the future but I've got no plans to do anything with one at this stage.

  • @damot1243
    @damot1243 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Quick question.
    Looking at multi purpose Clio on thermal with option for handheld.
    Of two choices there's one with a LRF but a 384x288 sensor.
    The other a 640 sensor, no LRF.
    Both 35mm lens.
    Both in the $3-4k bracket.
    Any advice on one over the other?
    Thanks.

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm not a fan of 384 resolution clip ons. Remember you zoom into the pixels. Ensure you have a lower base mag scope if you go that way.

    • @damot1243
      @damot1243 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks. I though that might be the case. The bonus is the 640 has a 1920 X 1080 display compared to a 1024 X 768 display so there's more pixels to zoom into, assuming the physical size of the display is the same.
      Thanks again.

  • @foxbyfoot
    @foxbyfoot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Nathan, wondering if you have seen or know anyone with the hikmicro alpex 4k? All the reviews I have seen are in the uk shooting rats at close range. Would love to know how it compares to pard nv008 and ds35

  • @lachlanclifford8697
    @lachlanclifford8697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How would you compare this device to the pulsar axion xq?

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd get the Axion if you want a LRF 👌. Otherwise the HIK has a nice image and generic batteries, all a trade off.

    • @lachlanclifford8697
      @lachlanclifford8697 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EDGEoftheOUTBACK the axion without the LRF would you still go it over the hik?

  • @hynot9175
    @hynot9175 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They need to get all this tech from cuntries other than Chyna!

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately I can write I agree, but even doing that is with a phone full of Chinese tech 🥵

  • @garytrigg-graynoth4034
    @garytrigg-graynoth4034 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how are these during the day in thick bush?

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Depends on ambient temps and how thick the bush is. Thermal isn't xray vision like many seem to think.

  • @bouncingyellowskull
    @bouncingyellowskull 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got a new Pixfra ARC 425, for $1250. Prices really come down

  • @SandraSandra-jm3np
    @SandraSandra-jm3np 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, why can't I get zoom 1 and it always starts from zoom 2x2?

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      HIK changed them to do that a while ago.

  • @robinstuyvesant7187
    @robinstuyvesant7187 ปีที่แล้ว

    A thermo-nuclear thermal monocular?

  • @nobbyclark5093
    @nobbyclark5093 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Have Hik redeemed themselves mate ?

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's just one of a few options in this range 👌

  • @slogue77
    @slogue77 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hahahaha @ hot blob like animal. I so badly want one , but no way I would pay 1k… I’m still saving…

  • @JamesZJi
    @JamesZJi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please who can give me advice: what hardware do i need to cearly identify rabbit (so i know for sure they are not cat, dog, lamp or a fox) at 100m distance?

  • @craigtomkinson2837
    @craigtomkinson2837 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool Ep you lost me as soon as you spoke, Way to much money for this brown duck. Id rather put the diesel in my 4wd and go up to Weipa area fishing,

  • @jayjudd6518
    @jayjudd6518 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow with the economy yeah, gouging and recession. I have no expendable cash for that much output, but may be in two years when I’m watching this things will be better. Ha HA.

  • @gordy1961
    @gordy1961 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do not believe that thermals are all that for hunting.... a decent digital night vision scope is up to the job for taking the shot, we don't need video, LRF or anything else - as long as we can find a fox at 2-300yds thats good enough, then switch to rifle scope....

    • @EDGEoftheOUTBACK
      @EDGEoftheOUTBACK  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Digital NV works well, on open country. Add in any foliage or obstructions, and the IR light blows out the image, unfortunately.

    • @gordy1961
      @gordy1961 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EDGEoftheOUTBACK Thanks for reply bud.... I absolutely agree, a cheap thermal is pants, (threw my gen 1 in the bin) who wants to find a blob... trouble is a decent thermal is out of my price range and I have never seen one in action. I don't understand why they have to have video recording for a normal hunter. ATB