Hey, I'm over here in Tennessee, USA. I've been to Ireland, once, and I liked by time there very much. Anyway, I suggest you look up a youtube station called, "The French Drain Man". He's in Michigan, USA. I'm sold on his way of doing it. The rock will integrate out into the sides of the trench rather quickly. So, put a double punched non-woven geofabric into the trench. Then put the pipe or pipes, properly slotted and good and sturdy but flexible, into the trench. Then put the rock in. Then "burrito wrap" the rock with the geofabric with as little overlap as possible. Then the pipe and rock are encased. The rock stays clean. Using two 4" slotted pipes allow air flow. Keeps things dry down there...so to speak. He's got a lot of videos on there. If you're as old as I am, nothing much else will turn you on anymore. Thank you.
Ireland here. I frankly don’t understand why we do things the way we do. The burrito approach makes so much sense. Like, with slope and soil movement the rocks between next to useless after a few years except at a superficial level. Equally, we are light years behind the times on the appropriate piping. I get the whole debate about holes up or down, but the perforated pipe tends to work best where you are talking about relatively extreme flows. When you are dealing with ongoing drainage, the perforated pipe can let as much out as in. I’ve seen efforts where builders have connected perforated land-drain between two manholes for storm flow and there is literally zero flow between them because the water isn’t enough to counter-fight the perforations. Personally, I’d love to have the skills to invent a pipe that has a small (maybe 2 inches) flat invert nearly like a hot wheels track with perforations everywhere else so that at a minimum there is collected flow at the base. I may be wrong, but I’ve seen so many attempts at this fail and the only success I’ve really had to the standards I want was when I did all this myself taking inordinate time to follow the burrito method you set out, but instead of using perforated pipe, using solid 100mm pipe but drilling a massive amount of perforations except at the base to let some sort of channel carry the water instead of dropping it back into the ground. This ended up replacing a system draining a few fields I have into a man-made lake and actually works. The perforated pipe simply wouldn’t carry the water save in an extreme event.
Major flaw. You should alway put a light coat of stones on the bottom of the drain before putting the pipe in. The pipe will sink into the clay ground over time and if any water is present, that clay gets into the pipe and chokes it.
+Mikey Sky You may get longevity with adding stones below the pipe but then again you may not. The people that have laid those pipes are probably used to doing it in those fields and know exactly through experience how it will drain and how long their drains will last. Ireland in some places gets very high moisture content over prolonged periods of time which can make some of the land unique and only the farmers from those areas know how the land handles.
@@newhollandtm1400 no, this is farming land. You need to plow your field once in a while, stones all the way to the top is gonna make it difficult to plow.
this is only a mediocre job in my opinion. why go through the hassle of digging a drain and not put a pipe in?poor quality gravel used here and stone should be used generously. You can only do the job once so do it right and it will never give bother. i don't know this soil type so maybe these things will work
What a stupid statement to make! The rivers are flowing out to the sea all the time. Its ok for a landowner to leave there property drowned wet, unproductive and can't make a leaving off it??. FYI I'll leave in rural Ireland, next to a river where farmers have drained there fields and there has never been an issue with the river flooding. The only time the river threatens to flood the banks is if we get a month's worth of rain in one night.
shannon callows always flooded in winter. Its a lowlying wetland. Farmers having drained all these wetlands wonder why shannon flooding is so bad, especially in Athlone. The same farmers put slurry out on drained wetlands & people wonder why the river water quality is so poor. Its all cause & effect.
@@liamgleeson2226 "Shannon callow always flooded in winter" well yeah whys that? Most normal years that's when we get most of our heavy rain, in the winter. I live next to the river feale in kerry surrounded by low lying farms and we get the odd flood, it never crossed my mind to blame the farmer, I kinda put it down to mother nature for giving us a month's worth of rain in 12hrs. Farmers have to spread there slurry!. It's good organic nutrients for the ground. It's cost money to spread so why would they throw that money down the drain, when they need to grow grass? Farmers have to go by Eu regulations. In 2018/2019, we had an exceptional dry and warm December with ideal conditions to spread slurry, with maximum uptake by grass roots, the soil and no run off, but the EU bureaucracy wouldn't allow them to spread it. The EU only goes by calendar farming. We had a drought only a few months ago up till june/July and even with all the water coming off drained land, the rivers were so shallow, that salmon weren't there because they couldn't make it upstream. The castlemsine Road just coming into tralee Co Kerry often floods when there's flash flooding. The field next to the road floods out and guess what no drain there. A drain would be the most beneficial thing there actually because it would take all that built flood away, so my point is drains are very beneficial and the flooding has got nothing to do with farmers and its their right!!! to drain their property to make it productive. If that's the case, it mother nature's fault too for creating natural drains bringing all that run off water down the mountains, have a word with her will you? 😂😂😂
Good example, the river Feale suffers pollution from agri over use of phosperous & nitrogen. Wild salmon & trout stocks are in danger. Listowel floods because lands upstream are drained & provide no storage for heavy rainfall. New normal, lands are dry while towns & cities are underwater. Similar to Athlone, Limerick. The Dutch had a big water quality problem in 2016. They had to cull 200k cows & 300k weanlings. 600 farmers put out of business. Thats whats coming here if national herd continues the uncontrolled growth.
Im from Athlone area and fish a lot around the Shannon callows and l can tell the reason for flooding in the winter is the ESB holding back water at Ardnacrusha power station...nothing to do with land drainage
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That is a very good job!it looks like an agricultural contractor is doing it with the special stone machine working.
really nice job you are doing there brother ? thats the way drainage has been done in Ireland as long as i can remember .nice work 😉
Hey, I'm over here in Tennessee, USA. I've been to Ireland, once, and I liked by time there very much. Anyway, I suggest you look up a youtube station called, "The French Drain Man". He's in Michigan, USA. I'm sold on his way of doing it. The rock will integrate out into the sides of the trench rather quickly. So, put a double punched non-woven geofabric into the trench. Then put the pipe or pipes, properly slotted and good and sturdy but flexible, into the trench. Then put the rock in. Then "burrito wrap" the rock with the geofabric with as little overlap as possible. Then the pipe and rock are encased. The rock stays clean. Using two 4" slotted pipes allow air flow. Keeps things dry down there...so to speak. He's got a lot of videos on there. If you're as old as I am, nothing much else will turn you on anymore. Thank you.
Ireland here. I frankly don’t understand why we do things the way we do. The burrito approach makes so much sense. Like, with slope and soil movement the rocks between next to useless after a few years except at a superficial level. Equally, we are light years behind the times on the appropriate piping. I get the whole debate about holes up or down, but the perforated pipe tends to work best where you are talking about relatively extreme flows. When you are dealing with ongoing drainage, the perforated pipe can let as much out as in. I’ve seen efforts where builders have connected perforated land-drain between two manholes for storm flow and there is literally zero flow between them because the water isn’t enough to counter-fight the perforations. Personally, I’d love to have the skills to invent a pipe that has a small (maybe 2 inches) flat invert nearly like a hot wheels track with perforations everywhere else so that at a minimum there is collected flow at the base. I may be wrong, but I’ve seen so many attempts at this fail and the only success I’ve really had to the standards I want was when I did all this myself taking inordinate time to follow the burrito method you set out, but instead of using perforated pipe, using solid 100mm pipe but drilling a massive amount of perforations except at the base to let some sort of channel carry the water instead of dropping it back into the ground. This ended up replacing a system draining a few fields I have into a man-made lake and actually works. The perforated pipe simply wouldn’t carry the water save in an extreme event.
@@imnothere220 Or at least put rock only in after lining the trench with non woven permeable double punched geofabric.
Major flaw. You should alway put a light coat of stones on the bottom of the drain before putting the pipe in. The pipe will sink into the clay ground over time and if any water is present, that clay gets into the pipe and chokes it.
I agree. Also, drains should be filled to the top with gravel, as the soil will wash down through gravel and block pipe.
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+Mikey Sky
You may get longevity with adding stones below the pipe but then again you may not. The people that have laid those pipes are probably used to doing it in those fields and know exactly through experience how it will drain and how long their drains will last.
Ireland in some places gets very high moisture content over prolonged periods of time which can make some of the land unique and only the farmers from those areas know how the land handles.
@@newhollandtm1400 thats dessie taaffe doin the work. The best
@@newhollandtm1400 no, this is farming land. You need to plow your field once in a while, stones all the way to the top is gonna make it difficult to plow.
Are there people I can hire to help me achieve this? My land in Leitrim is very wet
I wish much would this cost per metre ?
Does anybody know .
nice job brother
Good job❤🇫🇯
And who doesn't have a stone cart ? I've got 3 !
Hi
Do you have any information or scientific report about this technology, or may be a patent number ? thank you
this is only a mediocre job in my opinion. why go through the hassle of digging a drain and not put a pipe in?poor quality gravel used here and stone should be used generously. You can only do the job once so do it right and it will never give bother. i don't know this soil type so maybe these things will work
He did lay a pipe in the drains, i agree about the stones, 10-40mm should be used. The stone used in the video will block up in no time!
You havnt a clue 🤣
People wonder why rivers are flooding. This is why, every field across the country is drained.
What a stupid statement to make! The rivers are flowing out to the sea all the time. Its ok for a landowner to leave there property drowned wet, unproductive and can't make a leaving off it??. FYI I'll leave in rural Ireland, next to a river where farmers have drained there fields and there has never been an issue with the river flooding. The only time the river threatens to flood the banks is if we get a month's worth of rain in one night.
shannon callows always flooded in winter. Its a lowlying wetland. Farmers having drained all these wetlands wonder why shannon flooding is so bad, especially in Athlone. The same farmers put slurry out on drained wetlands & people wonder why the river water quality is so poor. Its all cause & effect.
@@liamgleeson2226 "Shannon callow always flooded in winter" well yeah whys that? Most normal years that's when we get most of our heavy rain, in the winter. I live next to the river feale in kerry surrounded by low lying farms and we get the odd flood, it never crossed my mind to blame the farmer, I kinda put it down to mother nature for giving us a month's worth of rain in 12hrs.
Farmers have to spread there slurry!. It's good organic nutrients for the ground. It's cost money to spread so why would they throw that money down the drain, when they need to grow grass?
Farmers have to go by Eu regulations. In 2018/2019, we had an exceptional dry and warm December with ideal conditions to spread slurry, with maximum uptake by grass roots, the soil and no run off, but the EU bureaucracy wouldn't allow them to spread it. The EU only goes by calendar farming.
We had a drought only a few months ago up till june/July and even with all the water coming off drained land, the rivers were so shallow, that salmon weren't there because they couldn't make it upstream.
The castlemsine Road just coming into tralee Co Kerry often floods when there's flash flooding. The field next to the road floods out and guess what no drain there. A drain would be the most beneficial thing there actually because it would take all that built flood away, so my point is drains are very beneficial and the flooding has got nothing to do with farmers and its their right!!! to drain their property to make it productive.
If that's the case, it mother nature's fault too for creating natural drains bringing all that run off water down the mountains, have a word with her will you? 😂😂😂
Good example, the river Feale suffers pollution from agri over use of phosperous & nitrogen. Wild salmon & trout stocks are in danger. Listowel floods because lands upstream are drained & provide no storage for heavy rainfall. New normal, lands are dry while towns & cities are underwater. Similar to Athlone, Limerick.
The Dutch had a big water quality problem in 2016. They had to cull 200k cows & 300k weanlings. 600 farmers put out of business. Thats whats coming here if national herd continues the uncontrolled growth.
Im from Athlone area and fish a lot around the Shannon callows and l can tell the reason for flooding in the winter is the ESB holding back water at Ardnacrusha power station...nothing to do with land drainage