I was prescribed Prolia for Osteoporosis and was not told about side effects. When my teeth starting breaking without cavities I started asking all the doctors and dentists if it could be a medication and they said no. Finally, after asking a lot and having most of my teeth broken and Oral Surgeon told me that it was Prolia. My jaws and gums are so damaged that I can do anything about it and now all I have in my mouth are broken teeth. Please do not use Prolia
All drugs are toxic to us! If doc prescribed, they don't cure you from anything. Doctors are not taught to cure diseases! They only prolong agony in the best case scenario. You are their cash cow.....wake up.
I am so glad I came across these video’s. I’ve been one 2 years of annual Aclasta drips. At 43, I was diagnose with osteoporosis and my first two vertebrae fractures (T6 & T11). As a result of the Aclasta, I had a retinal tear just to name one adverse effect. In Febr we repeated the Dexa scan. At the moment I have a fracture at levels T7, T8,T9,T11 &T12. In 2022, I had a vertobroplasty for T6 and T10. My endocrinologist wanted to put me on Forteo, which my medical aid declined. Now she wants to start me on Prolia. I also have 2 stable meningioma’s ( I had a craniotomy in Nov 2020), I am on Topamax for seizure management after that. After my resent Dexa scan my dr has admitted me to hospital for tests regarding these multiple fractures. She discovert distal RTMA. I’v been in menopause for the past 2 years. They don’t want to put me on HRT because of the meningioma, although I think something like Menostar that is estrogen will be fine. The more I hear about Prolia the more I want to run. I am still young(45).
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Thank you for explaining the risks of Prolia. I was 59 when I started Forsamax after minor fractures from a 1m fall. After 4 years, my DEXA scan showed no improvement. The Endocrine specialist insisted that Prolia was my only option.She claimed that the benefits outweigh the risks. However after some research I decided against it. It's been 3 years and my DEXA scan has not improved or worsened. Your video has further convinced me that my decision was correct.
Wow, so glad that I tuned in. At 67 I was diagnosed with osteoporosis and my doctor started me on prolia. After two 6 monthly injections my dental visits have increased and my dentist is concerned about the sudden breaks and problems and so am I! Also joint pain is increasing, blisters on my arm. Tingling in hands, carpal tunnel and trigger fingers, the list goes on. I'm stopping the injections, was considering monthly tablet denusob, but now I am just increasing weight bearing exercises, improving my already excellent diet. Apparently prunes are high in K2! Good luck anday the force be with you all out there!
Be careful with prunes and any dried fruit. I thought I was eating healthfully too but it turned out a high A1C was totally due to these dried fruits. I've eliminated all of them, back to normal now.
Thank You. I am 78 and feel as strong now as I did in my 40’s and 50’s …… and I have strong arm muscles. The Orthopedic Group did a repeat DEXA and I was shocked when told my osteopenia is now osteoporosis. They wanted to give me prolia the same day!! My dad and mother were healthy until 94 and 102. I do not want to go on medication and told them I needed to research prolia and a holistic alternative. Over a year ago I made major changes to hopefully build stronger bones…..I faithfully take supplements…… I faithfully follow a plant based diet supplemented with limited fish,chicken,eggs. I jog and bike 4-5 times a week. Thank you. I am going to download your book…. Hoping to turn this around!
Bone density and bone strength are different. Bone strength is increased by weight bearing exercise! Bone density does not mean your bones will be more resistant to breaking...just that they are denser. It is good to build stronger bones with muscle building weight bearing exercise. Walking is excellent place to start.
Could you please tell me what supplements you take? My mom has osteoporosis and I have osteopenia. She has been taking bisphonates and her condition has worsened. She was told it was for life.
I had severe bone pain in various parts of my body after one Prolia injection. It easily lasted six months and negatively impacted every day (I normally feel excellent). I've also suffered numerous broken teeth and significant dental problems since that injection. I've sworn off all osteoporosis drugs since.
Took 4 injections and felt like I was on chemo getting sicker. I stopped, but told it would affect my bones worse now. I now need a knee replacement, neck surgery and recently broke an ankle. Don’t do it. By the way, always athletic, small frame with scoliosis’ Harrington rods. This disease sucks and being almost 70 and atrophy has set in. 😩
I took two Envinity shots. It’s ruined my life I have RA it’s like being in the worst flare ever all the time I can’t get rid of it. On a Monday I got the infinity shot and my jaw hurt at night. The doctor told me this was not possible I said OK well I’m not doing any more shots. He talked me into one more just one more, now my neck is killing me and my left thigh. I’m going back to my neck surgeon who did surgery on my neck last year to see what’s wrong because after he fixed my neck, nothing hurt and now the pain just won’t leave me alone and I’m on pain meds.
Thank you for making this video. My GYN loves Prolia and she said you can stay on it forever. I knew from watching your videos that you can't and refused to take it. Perhaps my GYN needs to subscribe to your YT channel.
So glad I discovered these videos. Lots of questions I have are getting answered. Typically, doctors and specialists don't have the time (or perhaps even the knowledge?) to provide important information like this. Thanks you so much!
I simply went on the website and read peoples comments taking the drug. So many people were very upset they ever started the drug, a huge number of complaints about side effects. That was enough to convince me to steer clear of it. I was on Fosamax then Boniva and after 10 years I went off completely. Since then I broke my humerus but only because I fell off a motorcycle. I also took a fall off a bench and broke two toes because my foot hit the wall on the way down BUT no vertebral FX’s or hop FX’s. It is SO important to do your own research people, do not do something because it is recommended. Some Doctors do not research anything they just follow protocols period.
AGREED! I wish I had done my research before going on it 4.5 years ago. Now I'm scared to death about going off, and another serious adverse effect of all this, including after the COVID experience, is that I don't trust doctors, not even "good" ones. I do trust Lucas more than any other, but he's an anomaly in the medical profession.
Thank you for facts. I am so glad I am not taking meds for my bone density. I prefer organic, non-gmo food, natural vitimins and minerals, and of course I am physically active. I am glad your channel showed up on TH-cam. Good information. THANK YOU!!!!!!
Thank you for this. I was just diagnosed with osteoporosis and my doctor scheduled me for my first prolia injection. Though I’d love a quick easy fix, my gut instinct was caution. I’ve been up all night reading, researching, etc… I’ve prayed for wisdom regarding this and your video popped up, and my decision to cancel that appointment is made. I’m willing to the do the hard work necessary for my health without this drug. My doctor will probably not be thrilled with me, but I’m tired of making poor decisions with my health. I had a knee replacement that went badly for me and I live with that pain. I’ve had to follow an autoimmune diet to keep the inflammation down as much as possible. One thing always leads to something else… I’m 58 and except for arthritis and this, I’m told I’m in great health with great lab work results. Looking forward to watching your other videos.
Thank you for sharing your story. I’m really sorry to hear about your struggles, especially with your knee replacement, but it’s inspiring that you’re taking ownership of your health and making thoughtful decisions. It’s not easy to navigate these choices, especially when it feels like one thing leads to another. Trusting your instincts and being willing to put in the hard work is a powerful step forward. I highly recommend checking out The OsteoCollective if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.optimalhumanhealth.com/osteocollective
My doctor tried for years to get me to take this drug.When i learned how damaging side effects could be i said no and told her to stop trying to push it on me.Stand up for yourself and do your on research.
Thank you. Been on Prolia for 7 yrs. Discontinued Sep of 2023. Did not take another osteoporosis drug. The side effects I endured were so horrific! This video is so helpful. Thank u
You need to get on a bisphosphonate NOW. Check your markers. The rebound is quick and ferocious. My wife is off it now too after 5 years. It’s worse the longer you are on it.
😊 I did stop and all help broke lose, I have 5 compression now in my vertebrae. I had one that was address will bone cement. This could have been prevented if I would have know.
I had a diagnosis of osteopenia via DEXA 8 or 9 years ago. Prescribed fosamax but did not take it. Recently with diagnosis of PMR and on low dose prednisone for 2 months, planning to stop at 3. I have bone pathology on MRI of spine, but the spinal doctor is not worried. No surgery required and not experiencing pain. My dilemma. I’ve been encouraged (strongly) to go on either fosamax or prolia which I am resistant to doing. I’m in the medical profession and researching everthing on this subject. I’d no idea of of CTX and P1NP. I like what I am hearing. I live both in Ireland (domiciled) and USA. I would love to chat with your team. Thank you for your dedicated research and information.
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I’ve been on Prolia for 2 years (4 shots) My bone density before starting was 3 standard deviations below the norm. It was a tough decision but even those opposed to any meds said it would be beneficial. I’ve had no known side effects and I’m in excellent health. My bone density is now characterized as osteopenia. I very glad with the results however I was not told about effects after going off. I will certainly be looking into that!
My friend is 61 years old and she just came off Prolia after being on it for 5 years (she hasn't had any side effects). She is having her first reclast infusion in March. Her mother is still alive at 97 years old and her aunt lived to be 95. Obviously, she has good genes to live a long life but after watching this video she needs to come up with a plan for possibly 35 years or longer.
Just 3 days ago and intern and my GP suggested I begin Prolia or Fosamax for my recent dexa that since 2010 shows Tscores of -2.6 and -2.8. I chose the second recommendation of 1200 mg Calcium and 2000 IU of D3, continue my 2 mile walks, incorporate weights and resistance training. I started Collagen peptide powder and may not include as per this video. I have maintained a 50 lb. loss since 2018. We will check the dexa in a year and I hope to see mo loss and maybe grow. Guess it's time to watch the masterclass! So glad y'all are here!
I have been on Prolia three years,without any side effects. I was proscribed Fosamax first about 5 years ago. The Fosamax was not help ing.My dxa showed the Fosamax was not preventing my osteoporosis. My last dexa showed my score had improved. The side effects so far have not appeared. I am hoping to continually improve with lifestyle so i can improve my Dexscan.
I’m someone who has to take a hormone inhibitor because of estrogen positive breast cancer and will not take those drugs. I have taken garden of life bone growth system instead and last dexa, a few days ago, in 6 months an increase in my spine of bone density, 8%, hip basically stayed the same, so I am pleased with the results and will continue since I did no exercise during that time to increase the density, so the system was the reason for the increase in my opinion. I’m 72 years young.
Congrats on the spine improvement! The Garden of Life system includes strontium which is known to increase bone density on DEXA scans. Dr. Lucas has a video on it, "Strontium: Missing Secret Ingredient to Reversing Osteoporosis or a Supplement Avoid at All Costs?" After watching the video, I elected to take it, but I also have upped my exercise regiment to include resistance training.
I have very bad Osteoporosis diagnosed at 30, 32 years ago. I have not been able to start the exercise program because of other health issues like Epilepsy. I have refused all the drugs after trying one for 1yr, then read the s/e so chose never to take any again. These vitamins sound like they could be worth starting, I will look into The Garden of Life bone growth system, thank you for sharing.
So helpful, thank you, I have BVH an imbalance condition and fall easily, now use wheelchair, carnivore lifestyle now but I’m a young 76 and have suffered many fractures. So realise staying on Prolia is the best for me. Didn’t realise eczema was a side effect but have controlled with removing oxalates and salicylates from my diet. You are so right everyone is different and you must sensibly access what is right for you.
I took one injection of Prolia back in 2017. I had a severe adverse reaction to it. Extremely sore and stiff joints and bone pain in my thighs and shoulders. Hands were stiff every morning. Took approximately 18 months to get out of my system. My doctor as well as myself attempted to contact the drug company, and bottom line they really did not care about the adverse effects. I absolutely refuse to put any of those medications in my body. Since then, I have only used natural calcium supplements, Vitamin D3, Vitamin K2 mk7. From one of your videos, I did order a supplement that has the calcium hydroxyapatite in it. I make every effort to eat a lot of greens and watch my diet. I walk every day along with some light weight bearing exercises. This past Dex scan showed a slight improvement. Thank you for the information on your site, I am finding it very helpful.
Sorry to hear about your reaction! Side effect reporting is an issue with our system…. Keep reviewing the material we put out! You could also join our free masterclass, HealthSpan Nation or consider working with us directly.
I began to feel a loss of balance & confidence after beginning Prolia, until I added daily doses of collagen peptides. In my second year now ( age 83) I feel renewed confidence, balance, and perhaps even strength. Reportedly Collagen supplementation is considered ill advised, however, I am experiencing far more beneficial results than before. This discussion is informative, and I’d like to continue following. BTW, my daily exercise includes daily “ doggie walks” of 20-40 minutes whenever possible ( in Maine), some yoga, and doing my own housekeeping.
@@gourlief Who said you shouldn't take collagen? Humans slow production of collagen as we age and research supports supplementation. Take a look at our videos on training and consider some updates to your program :)
Do as heavy exercise as you can. Light exercise do little for the skeleton and muscles. Lots of studies on that. Better heavier with fewer repetitions.
Look at videos about vitamin D, calcium, gut microbiome, resistance training and diet. Osteoporosis can be improved with all of this. Never back to younger years but a slight improvement and no worsening.
I had a gut feeling about this drug when I received a huge push to start it from a new doctor. His staff pushed so hard it made me uneasy so I began looking at what others have experienced. What I found was frightening. One woman said she’s been bedbound since taking these injections. That steered me away. I’m the breadwinner and can’t afford the risk.
@@myrarussell5986 good for you. Keep looking into this. I added Dc3 (mine was really low along with calcium) and am taking magnesium and K7 and Boron. I will not take any of those drugs after hearing about a few women who have osteo of the jaw. I discussed this with my endocrinologist and he told me he has seen no evidence of this but he in the same breath referred me to see my dentist and we would proceed from there. He is supposed to be the best in his field in Philadelphia and when I asked him about diet and exercise he said he placed no value on either. Told me to just skip Dunkin Donuts. That did it!!! Monster.
I'm convinced. I don't want Prolia. I am an active 71-year-old who still wants to cycle the Pacific Coast trail and Lake Huron. I did all my long-distance cycling after my second hip fracture at age 45. I think I will work on building bone density the natural way, through weights, skiing, hiking etc., as well as supplementation. I am also not as fearful of fractures as others. I've had great surgeons who have put me back together.
If you still do all those things, you are lucky. Ex athlete at 70 and my bones are failing me quickly. Losing muscle as even with exercise no build up. I was on Prolio 10 yrs. ago and discontinued. That may be the issue.
I was mortified to learn her Dr put her on this. She doesn't have osteoporosis, just mild osteopenia! They used fear porn every year to get another dose into her. After a little education and a trip to the dentist, which raised that concern, she was convinced to take no more and told the drs to take another look at her test results. They very reluctantly agreed. She now takes boron and other multi minerals and does resistance training at Kieser 3x/week. She turns 86 this year and has some falls without any breakages. These industries need independent regulation. Enough of big (p)Harma
Yep. 15 years ago i had a severe reaction to a biphosphanate infusion...i was told i could have no more. End of story until 15 years later when an endodontist asked me had i had this drug previously. There was no hand out, no discussion about risks when i had the infusions. now, i have been identified as having necrosis of the jaw. No i'm sorry, no help, just more medical bills. Doctors take an oath of " do no harm!" What happened?
I’m sorry you had that reaction. Your doctor was likely doing what they thought was best for you. Consent should be obtained before an infusion but it would have stated that is a low risk of that kind of complication and you would have likely had the infusion anyway. Hindsight can be frustrating with procedures even when consent is appropriately obtained. True informed consent is not really possible.
I've been on it for several years, with GOOD results, with NO PROBLEMS so far!!!! I'd LOVE YOUR NATURAL health e- book for bone health!!!! THANK YOU for EVERYTHING!!!!
I'm so scared about my jaw and hips now. Yes my teeth started cracking. My DR NEVER TOLD ME this. Now I have to carefully transition to a different drug before my next 6 months injection deadline.
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A random message was sent to me regarding this & an appointment made for me without telling me what it was & why I'm being approached. I cancelled the appointment & came here to find out what this is. OMG I'm glad I did! I'm in my late 50s with no prior complaints about bone issues.How dare my doctor ATTEMPT to try out a relatively new drug on me without discussion & assuming I would take medication with such terrible sode effects.
Thank you so much for this information. I was really one of those who are looking for a decision. I have had 3 doses of prolia. Now desperately trying a way out. Doctors don't support it. They want me to be on this drug for ever. I am 53, don't want to live on this. I am active, do Yoga, exercise, eat healthy. Now, I will not take prolia. But still afraid of after effects of stopping it.
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Thank you for your honest evaluation of this drug. I am cramming to be prepared for an appointment to test my hormones and to discuss my osteoporosis diagnosis. This NP tried to push prolia on my elderly mother and she said absolutely not. From all the videos I’ve watched recently I’m inclined to agree w my wise momma. I have started paying more attention to getting the 1200 mg of calcium w my food, was already taking Vit D but now combined w K2, walking on treadmill 30 minutes and doing other exercises for osteoporosis too. Otherwise I do lots of outside yard & gardening work also. Hopefully I can improve my bone strength naturally 🙂. 2:34
I've been on Prolia for 5 years, I was put on tamoxifen for several years and my bone density tanked. Before I can receive an injection I get bloodwork and my CA and vitamin D is checked. So far my bone density is improving and I've started doing strength training and impact training and improving diet. I do wish I had started sooner. So far no side effects.
I am so thankful your video popped up in my feed! I recently went to my Dr. for a check up and she wanted me to take that Prolia or Fosamax. I recently fell and fractured my left knee cap. So she says since I have had a fracture now we need to “take the next step.” I had not heard of Prolia but did not like the idea of an injection. So I told her I’d take the Fosamax. I read up on Prolia and with your video I am glad I did not agree to take it. Another Dr on YT explained that those DEXA scans are done comparing our bones to that of a 35 y/o!! That’s crazy. I’m not going to take the Fosamax either. Another Dr. had prescribed it to me a few years ago and I didn’t take it then either. I am taking calcium, D3 and K2 and multi vitamins. I will download your e-book. Thank you.
I'm under Her 2 breast cancer treatment with bone metastasis. Taking Ribociclib, Denosumab and Fulvestrant. I'm very well apart the pain in muscle and bones day & night. It's a nightmare. I'll have a conversation with the onco about stop DENOSUMAB! I never had such horrible pain, only after start with Denosumab became worse and worse, can't sleep. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us Dr🙏
Thanks for this. I would like to get some idea of what a soid plan consists of when one comes off these drugs. I have increased my weight-bearing exercises; I am eating prunes daily, I have increasingly become more vigilant about my intake of vitamins and minerals that support bone density, I have increased my magnesium intake, I take vitamins D & K as well as other vitamins, both in term of diet and supplementation and lastly, I have a very strong positive mental attitude. I have done all this through my own research as my doctors do not provide any other information apart from that relating to the drugs.
@@lindakautzman7388 I am going to a bone specialist tomorrow at a university health center. I do know that they do ultrasound bone scanning and they use the LIFTMOR resistance training program. I am hoping that I can do that program because the drug side effects are even more frightening than osteoporosis itself.
Three years now and it’s been helpful blood work up before I get the injection I feel it’s working and I’m happy too be in good health and my bones are in good shape according to the dexa scan and what my Rheumatologist tells me .
Thank you for this honest, informative video. My Endocrinologist said the only reaction he had known was a rash at the injection site otherwise no side effects so I was scheduled for first Prolia infusion 3 months ago but cancelled it after reading bad patient reviews. My husband read them too and said "You are not taking that". Taking all recommended supplements and exercise. Hoping to see improvement in next year's DEXA.
Recently, diagnosed with severe osteoporosis and encouraged to go on Prolea, pending approval from kidney specialist, I was super happy to hear this. I know I will find it helpful and will listen to it multiple times.Thank you!
I have been taking Prolia for about 5 years now. Others have commented about teeth problems while taking it but for me, I had teeth problems before starting prolia like breaking teeth but since taking prolia I have not lost anymore teeth and I feel like its helped strengthen my teeth in addition to strengthening my bones as my Osteoporosis/penia numbers have gradually improved to the point where my dr told me after my last dexa scan that I almost don't qualify as having osteoporosis/penia any longer. It has been a good medication for me and I have had no side effects at this point in time and have only good things to say for it...but as with most medications you only hear from the complainers who have had issues, not the people who have had no problems. I know my doctor is considering taking me off it down the road and that is why I listened to your video but I still feel just as confused about going off it as I did before listening to your video oth er than knowing that people can be safely taking it up to 10 years as it looks like I may be headed in that direction.
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I have sjogrens and osteoporosis doctors want me on Prolia. I find it very interesting that you said long term side effect neocrosis...this is what I am concerned about especially with the sjogrens. No doctor or dentist have studied both and Prolia. So, now I am not sure what to do. I really struggle with this. I can't take Fosamax. I am already 75.
Thank you for sharing this. Checkout our masterclass or healthspan nation if you have not. We are able answer more specific questions like this through those platforms. Links for both of those are in the video description :)
Excellent review of this controversial drug! I appreciate the description of the scenarios where Prolia, or bisphosphonates for that matter, might be appropriate. However, knowing how frequently PCPs prescibe these meds I can't help but think of the saying "When the only tool you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail."
Your absolutely right. As a surgeon I fell into this same trap. Everyone has a surgical problem. It's what I do. The expectation when going to a traditional doctor should be a pharmaceutical. It's what they do.
here from Italy. 52 years, severe osteoporosis with two vertabral fractures, doctor in medicine, soon will have my medications ; very very worried. thank you for your video
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Ever since I got the one and only injection, it seemed like everything started hurting. I stopped after one shot and now my legs, back, hips, ribs and feet hurt still. It's been over a year and I am miserable! I didn't even have full blown osteoporosis and am not at all happy that my doctor never told me of possible side effects! I wish I never took this awful drug!
I was dumb enough to have two shots even after feeling "not right ”. after taking the first one. Since then I have never been the same. My whole body is falling apart and I really believe it's because of this drug! Have told my doctors that I'll never do another.
I need to call you!! For years, all I've been told is that I have osteopenia. The scan I had just this week said the same. I did get a couple of msgs from the pcp saying my spine looked better, but my femur was worse. To me, that implies that my bones have not been great and have only been told that I have osteopenia. The pcp asked if I wanted to take medication. For the last 8-9 years, I've tried to have conversations with this Dr about muscle and bone pain. I am SO Frustrated!!!
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Thank you so much for this info. My gynae wanted to send me a script for Boniva. I expressed concern about the side effects. She then suggested I see an osteoporosis specialist who knows more about Prolia. I have canceled my appointment after learning more from people like you. I am 59. My lumbar spine is -2.7. I will do everything I can naturally and re scan in 1 year.
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Thank u. I am so concerned as my dictir is now insisting. I am not doing all I can - duet exercise - and supplements are too expensive now. So scare. Fell and bfrije more than once. .
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I stopped my proliaa after about 2 years to get dental work done. This is where I am now. I had zero side effect to the drug and zero when I stopped. Now I am at the crossroad of what I do for bone next. My GP is also an advocate for nutrition and exercise. As I am in the age groups mentioned I am going to discuss in depth now the best way to manage my bone health moving forward.
That's great you have a supportive MD! Consider yourself lucky. If you are searching for options, consider our master class. Link in video description.
Thanks. I am 76 and I have osteoporosis and I’m not fond of taking one of those drugs. But this video you just did helps me understand better. So I’m hanging on a little longer before I take a drug. I have rheumatoid arthritis and I also have LEMS so my C-spine is the question in the future. But I’m not thinking of that only. I’m trying to stay alive as long as possible of course. I have only limited control of that one. Ha ha anyway thank you I am giving more info now to think about.
Thank you so much for these videos! Your knowledge is so appreciated! I was put on Tymlos and after 2 injections I quit because of awful side effects. I'm 56 with -4
I lost 2.5 inches, had rib fractures and was in osteoporosis in hip and spine. I took 19 months of timlos and went to osteopina. Now I am on prolia. I now see that all this was a good choice because for the time I have left, I will not have the same fear of severe breaks and I can enjoy my time. A 10 year plan is great for me.
same here. after my first 6 months on prolia: after 6 years of ibandronate and 2 years tymlos, I am finally improving and preserving bone. As a 'geriatric dentist' many of my patients are in misery with bone pain and I am glad I am on this med now. My doctor said the only drawback is that if I come off the prolia we may see decrease.
Thanks dr Doug. Wish i came across it before starting Prolia. Fortunately....i hope....being my first injection...i do not have dire consequences , since i do not intend to continue it. Have a very good osteopath that has helped me for many years through my injures and i will follow his exercises. Thanks so so much
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I have had 3 injections so far but I have been suffering with bone pain and would like to quit, but my doctor insists I stay on it. I did have a wrist fracture 2 years ago and my wrist aches all the time now. I will be 70 on my next birthday and finding it difficult to sleep due to back pain. I'm wondering if it is worth it. I try to stay active and walk an hour almost every day, I was diagnosed with Graves Disease in 2007 and have been on anti thyroidal medication daily.
I’m sorry to hear of your difficulties. If you want to come off of the drug you should have a follow up conversation with your doctor and explain your symptoms and discuss alternatives. Ask them what the long term plan is for you.
What are your thoughts on Strontium citrate along with Boron and Silica? My mom has been on Prolia for 10 years and is 63 now. According to her scan she is losing calcium and her doctor is recommending absolutely nothing. Also her chances of finding another bone specialist are small due to where she lives. I am desperately trying to help her. Being on Prolia too long and not getting any benefits but is experiencing vertigo, hip pain and lower calcium in her bone. She was also told that if she breaks her hip they couldn't even operate her due to low bone density. Thank you so much for the information you share.
Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan
Thanks for this explanation. I knew coming off the drug was a very serious issue but I did not realise that the bone turnover was suppressed in this way. I was 65 when I was diagnosed with osteoporosis of the spine and the doctor said to go on Prolia and I’d have to take if for the rest of my life. I said to her if I lived till 85 that would be 20 years on this drug. Is that safe? What are the longer term risks? She said they didn’t have any data on that period of use but it is a safe drug. That’s when I started doing some research and was horrified about the bone loss rebound effects. I stopped trusting my doctor given her cavalier attitude. I think the evidence does clearly show increased bone density achieved with it but at the back of my head I just thought this was somehow interfering too much with what should be a natural and necessary body function - break down and build up bone and you have clarified that in your video.
You nailed it. There is no 20 year approach with the current drug options available. I fear the impact of 15-20 years of bone metabolism suppression too.
@@terrifiorelli9819 Please consider seeing your doctor. The risk of rebound bone loss is high and the doctor may offer an alternative for a period of time until it’s clear what your bone density is. Best woishes. None of these options and decisions are easy.
I am 66. My doctor suggested Prolia at my last physical. I feel like showing her the negatives and asking her "would YOU take it"??? (she is a few years younger than I) I honestly don't think she researches anything, the pharmaceutical rep probably is her only source of info on this stuff. I take a Calcium supplement that includes Boron & Silicon, Vitamin D + K2, Collagen Peptides, very active and work out a lot with weights and walking and treadmill as well. I eat a healthy diet, do not consume too much alcohol and don't eat high sodium foods. I tripped and fell last year on a walk and although sore for a week, nothing was broken.
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I have had in the past stem cell infusion. You mentioned stem cells. Would having stem cell infusion be a good thing for me. I am high risk and do not want to go on drugs. I am a Canadian and would love to sign up with your team. Thank you for all your videos they have helped me greatly in that I do not feel alone and do not have to depend on drugs.
Hi there. We currently can’t directly with Canadians but we are looking into international licensure so stay tuned. As for stem cells. I am not convinced of the benefits yet and there are risks which are not often discussed!
I was unable to tolerate Fosamax and another oral med for osteopenia. Annual Reclast infusions did not stop my numbers for getting worse. Took Prolia shots 3 times and got back to normal range but had to stop it due to hearing loss side effect. Went back on Reclast but numbers dramatically worsened. Had issues with gums healing when tooth w root canal removed. Has planned to do dental implant but could not from slow healing. Got two permanent bridges instead. Just now made the connection with Prolia. Waiting to get latest Dexa scan results?
Great video, contents. I'd like to here more, my path to take. I'm 63 very healthy, crossfitt'er, trailrunner, Spartan racer. I'm leaning on not taking Prolia. You gave leaning that way as well. You mentioned a hormone drug possibly in my case? Can you tell me more please? I just did a bone density test and I'm near -2.5 (was - 2.3 in 2021). Dr Ali Rizvi out of VA Orlando suggested I get this shot every 6 mos. I'm researching still. . . . Please reply.
It’s great that you’re staying active and looking into all your options! If you're leaning away from Prolia, checkout the video on my channel called "Can You Stop Prolia? Or Will It INCREASE Fracture Risk??" I’d recommend discussing your concerns with your doctor, who can guide you on potential therapies that may align better with your lifestyle and health goals. Keep up the research-knowledge is key!
My endocrinologist told me that it was simple to transition off orolia by taking bisphosphonates. I was skeptical. Is that a bonafide, research based transition plan? Can you comment please? I insisted with my doc that I need a 20 year plan at least at age 70 and not to talk about Prolia until after 80. Already experienced the devastating effects of my mom going off Prolia suddenly. I wish I knew more then so I could have intervened!
Hello, There are multiple studies that recommend switching from Prolia to bisphosphonates after 5 to 10 years. The challenge that I see with this is that this is still not a 20 year plan. This is a maximum 15 year plan and you’re right, what is the solution at 70, 80 or 90? So, whenever possible, we try to find a comprehensive solution that will delay or eliminate the need for osteoporosis drugs.
So, I’m 58, diagnosed at 47( didn’t go on ANY MEDS!) my scores( 2 yrs ago) were -4.3 of my spine, I started fracturing( T-8 and T-10) I’m afraid to do ANYTHING!!! I may have to go on medication 😞
I'm so confused! I;m 71, slim and have exercised most of my life since about age 27 - gym, cardo, lightish weights, walking, horse riding. I had the test for Osteoporosis and my doc told me I had it. She then suggested Prolia. I'm due for my 3rd one in a couple of days. She gave me the option of the some other drugs but thought the side effects of Prolia weren't as bad so I agred to have the injections. Now I'm reading all this stuff about it and getting so worried. I've never had a fracture even after falling off my bike and horse a few years ago. This was before taking Prolia of course. At the moment I don't seem to have any problems with my jaw/teeth although I did have a crown on one of me teeth after my first injection with Prolia. I had a crack in an old filling so I don't think it was anything to do with the Prolia. It worries me now that I could get fractures if I go off it in 10 years. I'll then be 81 and will anyone even care.....should I get re-tested and after how long taking Prolia?
Hi. Tough predicament. We recommend testing every 1-2 years with imaging to verify improvement with programs and drugs. The risk of rebound fracture is real with Prolia discontinuation and is something that will need to be addressed. It's likely easier to come off it now than in 10 years but that will depend on each unique scenario.
Ok, this scares the crap out of me! I am 62 I have had leukemia for 19 years. I started ivig 5 years ago and my immune is still low. I get my first shot tomorrow then the following week IVIG. I'm fixing to start treatment for leukemia but I don't know yet which way we're going with treatment, now last week osteoporosis. What do I do? 😢
I'm so sorry to hear about everything you’re going through-it sounds like a lot to manage at once. It’s great that you’re taking steps to address your health. I highly advise checking out OsteoCollective if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.optimalhumanhealth.com/osteocollective
On Prolia for 36 months; developed Necrosis of jaw bone. Have been off Prolia for 24 months and my recent bone density shows a 13% bone loss. I’m 74 and truly scared to live. I’ve began 2024 with use of weights, macro awareness and walking. Can you help? Louisiana resident
Hi! Thanks for being here, unfortunately I cannot make recommendations on TH-cam. We do have a free Bone Foundations Masterclass and our Health Span Nation is a great tool to jumpstart your journey. You can find the links for both of those in the video description :)
I was given Fosamax the first time but gave me strong pains from my head to toe.. then, he said the next step is Prolia.. the first year I did not have any side effects at all but the next time I had muscle and bone pains for on and off.. every 2 years I check bone density test . The results are better but not 💯. I would like to stop but I’m scarred.
Thank you for sharing your experience-it's tough to navigate these treatment options, especially when dealing with side effects. It’s great to hear that your bone density results have improved, but I completely understand your concerns about continuing medication. It’s important to prioritize your comfort and well-being
I 22; was recently diagnosed with a rare disease called giant cell tumor about 3 months ago, my tumor was growing on my spinal cord (size of a lemon) it was taken out in whole in a emergency surgery. both my surgeon & oncologist mentioned getting on prolia, any thoughts considering I outside of this am still so young and healthy? I am a runner as well as a weightlifter and am concerned a bit. thanks!!
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Hi. At age 62 after a significant ankle break it was determined that I had Osteoperos. I was prescribed Prolia for 5 years. My specialist then changed me to Alcasta Intravenous once yearly for the last 3 years. I take all the suppliments that Dr Lucas recommends. I am a fit 70 years old and would like to know if I can go off the yearly intravenous and was wondering how to do this and what to expect if I did. I am in Melbourne, Australia. Thanks in advance 😊
Hi! Dr. Doug: So, what is the alternative drug to Prolia. My sister just started Prolia. She has taken it 2x. I am glad I found this video of yours. Thank you so much for the info.
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I was diagnosed with breast cancer. I had my surgery and on the 5 yr pill. Both my gyn and oncologist want to put me on prolia. Never really exclaimed anything but said i had a#2 on my scan. This is terrifying and I don't know what to do
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I enjoyed your video. I am 65 and still consider myself to be active. Although lately, I have been to achy to do much activity as usual. I have been on Alondronate since March 2024 (T-3.0). I am 30 pounds over weight and I have an immunodeficiency (Rheumatoid Arthritis). I also have some kind of glucose intolerance as I noticed that anytime I have even a sip of sweet drink or eat sweets, my joints start to feel on fire. Lately on Alondronate, I also feel that burning and deep pain. I am thinking about asking dr if I can start taking GLp to ease most of my other symptoms and take off 30 pounds. Do you know if I should take these two meds? together? I am not prediabetic on paper, but I feel that I am as I had gestational diabetes 34 years ago, I feel that nauseating debilitation when I have eaten sweets which I do avoid and monitor my intake when I do. I would rather not take Alondronate for 10 years as you say, it may still suppresses bone turnover. II believe Alondronate is giving me worse bone and joint pain. I am starting a weight lifting class next week, but I try to walk 8,000 to 10K steps a day. I also do my P/T exercises for lower back . hip, and shoulder pain. I want to get back to myself. I hate being in this much pain every day. I want to loose 30 pounds with the help of glp but am afraid it may have a bad interaction with alondronate.
Thank you for sharing your journey-it sounds like you've been navigating a lot! Checkout The OsteoCollective if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.optimalhumanhealth.com/osteocollective Wishing you relief and progress-you're doing amazing! 💪✨
Please give me a straight honest answer. I find you are more reliable, and trustworthy to ask this question. Reclast and Prolia which is ideal for persons who have to take medications for osteoporosis (Bone test show -3.8)
Prolia was so expensive even with insurance. Doctor said I had to take 2000 mgof calcium a day with it. Took it for three years then he tells me he doesn’t understand but results were worse. Ordered X-rays and with cat scan they see calcium was going to my main aorta and caused an anorism. I immediately came off it and of course he was not happy. Been off it and on vitamins. Staying mainly the same. Of course I still have to worry about my anorism. That’s my story. It’s all poison .
Thank you for sharing. You're correct. It's all poison, but hopefully with a desired side effect. Sounds like your experience was not so. Sorry to hear but know you are not alone...
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Thank you; that was a very interesting and informative video. I would be interested in your views regarding Zoledronic Acid. The pros and cons of this drug please.
Watching this video gives me concerns about the negative effects of Prolia ( on it 3yrs now). So what kind of tests do i need to take in order to assess whether it has improved or made my condition worse. And whether i can stop taking it & switch back to “safer” alternatives. Pls tell me what steps i need to take. I am 74yo & looking forward to many more years of active exercise. I stopped walking & zumba due to a mild meniscal tear but am getting better. Would like to return to more active exercise. Thank you
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I've been on prolia about 3 years I have osteopinia. I've never had any side effects but I've never had any increase in bone density. It doesnt seem to have any effect on me. As I do lots of jogging cycling and swimming, weights, resistance bands, take supplements including protein supplements etc I've come to the conclusion its because I'm a lacto-vegetarian and still not getting enough protein. The GP was horrified that I was planning to come off prolia. I feel pretty hopeless about it all now but after this video I still feel I should come off it.
Thank you so much for sharing this. I advise coming to our next free Bone Foundations Masterclass if you have not attended one before. This could be beneficial to you, you can find more information here --> www.optimalbonehealth.com/build-bone
I had Prolia injection for 2 years after i was diagnosed with severe osteoporosis, an incidental finding after a freak accident that fractured my T12. I stopped having the injection because of muscle spasms. Now I am being referred to an endocrinologist by my primary care physician to resume my prolia injection after my bone density exams which revealed that my osteoporosis is severe. I don't feel comfortable having these injections. I rather do my exercises and managed my osteoporosis with healthy bone building foods. I am 74 years old and very active. Any recommendations is greatly appreciated. I would like to buy that book too!
I was prescribed Prolia for Osteoporosis and was not told about side effects. When my teeth starting breaking without cavities I started asking all the doctors and dentists if it could be a medication and they said no. Finally, after asking a lot and having most of my teeth broken and Oral Surgeon told me that it was Prolia. My jaws and gums are so damaged that I can do anything about it and now all I have in my mouth are broken teeth. Please do not use Prolia
Wow, thank you for sharing your story.
All drugs are toxic to us! If doc prescribed, they don't cure you from anything. Doctors are not taught to cure diseases! They only prolong agony in the best case scenario. You are their cash cow.....wake up.
Does a consultation covered by Medicare and secondary insurance,?
Post and I will contact you
My secondary insurance will cover any thing does that medicare covers. Thank you.
I am so glad I came across these video’s. I’ve been one 2 years of annual Aclasta drips. At 43, I was diagnose with osteoporosis and my first two vertebrae fractures (T6 & T11). As a result of the Aclasta, I had a retinal tear just to name one adverse effect. In Febr we repeated the Dexa scan. At the moment I have a fracture at levels T7, T8,T9,T11 &T12. In 2022, I had a vertobroplasty for T6 and T10. My endocrinologist wanted to put me on Forteo, which my medical aid declined. Now she wants to start me on Prolia. I also have 2 stable meningioma’s ( I had a craniotomy in Nov 2020), I am on Topamax for seizure management after that. After my resent Dexa scan my dr has admitted me to hospital for tests regarding these multiple fractures. She discovert distal RTMA. I’v been in menopause for the past 2 years. They don’t want to put me on HRT because of the meningioma, although I think something like Menostar that is estrogen will be fine.
The more I hear about Prolia the more I want to run. I am still young(45).
Thank you so much for sharing this. It sounds like you could benefit from the next free Bone Foundations Masterclass we have coming up if you have not attended one before. You can find more information here --> www.optimalbonehealth.com/build-bone
Thank you for explaining the risks of Prolia. I was 59 when I started Forsamax after minor fractures from a 1m fall. After 4 years, my DEXA scan showed no improvement. The Endocrine specialist insisted that Prolia was my only option.She claimed that the benefits outweigh the risks. However after some research I decided against it. It's been 3 years and my DEXA scan has not improved or worsened. Your video has further convinced me that my decision was correct.
Thats great, thank you so much for sharing this!
My mother was on that and lost most of her hair
Wow, so glad that I tuned in. At 67 I was diagnosed with osteoporosis and my doctor started me on prolia. After two 6 monthly injections my dental visits have increased and my dentist is concerned about the sudden breaks and problems and so am I! Also joint pain is increasing, blisters on my arm. Tingling in hands, carpal tunnel and trigger fingers, the list goes on.
I'm stopping the injections, was considering monthly tablet denusob, but now I am just increasing weight bearing exercises, improving my already excellent diet. Apparently prunes are high in K2! Good luck anday the force be with you all out there!
Thank you for sharing your experience!
Be careful with prunes and any dried fruit. I thought I was eating healthfully too but it turned out a high A1C was totally due to these dried fruits. I've eliminated all of them, back to normal now.
Thank You. I am 78 and feel as strong now as I did in my 40’s and 50’s …… and I have strong arm muscles. The Orthopedic Group did a repeat DEXA and I was shocked when told my osteopenia is now osteoporosis. They wanted to give me prolia the same day!! My dad and mother were healthy until 94 and 102. I do not want to go on medication and told them I needed to research prolia and a holistic alternative. Over a year ago I made major changes to hopefully build stronger bones…..I faithfully take supplements…… I faithfully follow a plant based diet supplemented with limited fish,chicken,eggs. I jog and bike 4-5 times a week. Thank you. I am going to download your book…. Hoping to turn this around!
Thank you so much for sharing your story. Glad you enjoyed this video, I appreciate your support!
Bone density and bone strength are different. Bone strength is increased by weight bearing exercise! Bone density does not mean your bones will be more resistant to breaking...just that they are denser. It is good to build stronger bones with muscle building weight bearing exercise. Walking is excellent place to start.
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Could you please tell me what supplements you take? My mom has osteoporosis and I have osteopenia. She has been taking bisphonates and her condition has worsened. She was told it was for life.
I had severe bone pain in various parts of my body after one Prolia injection. It easily lasted six months and negatively impacted every day (I normally feel excellent). I've also suffered numerous broken teeth and significant dental problems since that injection. I've sworn off all osteoporosis drugs since.
Thank you for sharing this!
I had one shot too and every bone/muscle in my body hurt for six months.
Thank you for your experience. I am afraid to try these drugs
Took 4 injections and felt like I was on chemo getting sicker. I stopped, but told it would affect my bones worse now. I now need a knee replacement, neck surgery and recently broke an ankle. Don’t do it. By the way, always athletic, small frame with scoliosis’ Harrington rods. This disease sucks and being almost 70 and atrophy has set in. 😩
I took two Envinity shots. It’s ruined my life I have RA it’s like being in the worst flare ever all the time I can’t get rid of it. On a Monday I got the infinity shot and my jaw hurt at night. The doctor told me this was not possible I said OK well I’m not doing any more shots. He talked me into one more just one more, now my neck is killing me and my left thigh. I’m going back to my neck surgeon who did surgery on my neck last year to see what’s wrong because after he fixed my neck, nothing hurt and now the pain just won’t leave me alone and I’m on pain meds.
Thank you for making this video. My GYN loves Prolia and she said you can stay on it forever. I knew from watching your videos that you can't and refused to take it. Perhaps my GYN needs to subscribe to your YT channel.
So glad I discovered these videos. Lots of questions I have are getting answered. Typically, doctors and specialists don't have the time (or perhaps even the knowledge?) to provide important information like this. Thanks you so much!
Thank you for watching!
I simply went on the website and read peoples comments taking the drug. So many people were very upset they ever started the drug, a huge number of complaints about side effects. That was enough to convince me to steer clear of it. I was on Fosamax then Boniva and after 10 years I went off completely. Since then I broke my humerus but only because I fell off a motorcycle. I also took a fall off a bench and broke two toes because my foot hit the wall on the way down BUT no vertebral FX’s or hop FX’s. It is SO important to do your own research people, do not do something because it is recommended. Some Doctors do not research anything they just follow protocols period.
Thank you for sharing this!
AGREED! I wish I had done my research before going on it 4.5 years ago. Now I'm scared to death about going off, and another serious adverse effect of all this, including after the COVID experience, is that I don't trust doctors, not even "good" ones. I do trust Lucas more than any other, but he's an anomaly in the medical profession.
Right.
Now I am racomended to Bonviva by my endocrinologist!!!
I am so affraid of side effects!!!!.
I do now my esearch......
From Belgrade ,Serbia.
@@IndydiMe too.
Don' t trust doctors anymore.
Thank you for facts. I am so glad I am not taking meds for my bone density. I prefer organic, non-gmo food, natural vitimins and minerals, and of course I am physically active. I am glad your channel showed up on TH-cam. Good information. THANK YOU!!!!!!
Thank you for watching!
How did you know you have osteoporosis?
Take Dexa is a machine that see your bones
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Thank you for this. I was just diagnosed with osteoporosis and my doctor scheduled me for my first prolia injection. Though I’d love a quick easy fix, my gut instinct was caution. I’ve been up all night reading, researching, etc… I’ve prayed for wisdom regarding this and your video popped up, and my decision to cancel that appointment is made. I’m willing to the do the hard work necessary for my health without this drug. My doctor will probably not be thrilled with me, but I’m tired of making poor decisions with my health. I had a knee replacement that went badly for me and I live with that pain. I’ve had to follow an autoimmune diet to keep the inflammation down as much as possible. One thing always leads to something else… I’m 58 and except for arthritis and this, I’m told I’m in great health with great lab work results. Looking forward to watching your other videos.
Thank you for sharing your story. I’m really sorry to hear about your struggles, especially with your knee replacement, but it’s inspiring that you’re taking ownership of your health and making thoughtful decisions. It’s not easy to navigate these choices, especially when it feels like one thing leads to another. Trusting your instincts and being willing to put in the hard work is a powerful step forward.
I highly recommend checking out The OsteoCollective if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.optimalhumanhealth.com/osteocollective
My doctor tried for years to get me to take this drug.When i learned how damaging side effects could be i said no and told her to stop trying to push it on me.Stand up for yourself and do your on research.
Thank you for sharing this!
Thank you. Been on Prolia for 7 yrs. Discontinued Sep of 2023. Did not take another osteoporosis drug. The side effects I endured were so horrific! This video is so helpful. Thank u
Thank you for watching!
You need to get on a bisphosphonate NOW. Check your markers. The rebound is quick and ferocious. My wife is off it now too after 5 years. It’s worse the longer you are on it.
I really need to know what the impact if you stop?
😊 I did stop and all help broke lose, I have 5 compression now in my vertebrae. I had one that was address will bone cement. This could have been prevented if I would have know.
I am still dealing with neuro surgeons planned more bone cement
I had a diagnosis of osteopenia via DEXA 8 or 9 years ago. Prescribed fosamax but did not take it. Recently with diagnosis of PMR and on low dose prednisone for 2 months, planning to stop at 3. I have bone pathology on MRI of spine, but the spinal doctor is not worried. No surgery required and not experiencing pain. My dilemma. I’ve been encouraged (strongly) to go on either fosamax or prolia which I am resistant to doing. I’m in the medical profession and researching everthing on this subject. I’d no idea of of CTX and P1NP. I like what I am hearing. I live both in Ireland (domiciled) and USA. I would love to chat with your team. Thank you for your dedicated research and information.
Thank you so much for sharing this, I am glad you have enjoyed these videos. We would love to speak with you, you may schedule a discovery call at this link --> www.optimalbonehealth.com/schedule
I’ve been on Prolia for 2 years (4 shots) My bone density before starting was 3 standard deviations below the norm. It was a tough decision but even those opposed to any meds said it would be beneficial. I’ve had no known side effects and I’m in excellent health. My bone density is now characterized as osteopenia. I very glad with the results however I was not told about effects after going off. I will certainly be looking into that!
Thank you for sharing this!
Thanks for sharing..comments are often weighted by people who have extreme side effects.
Is it the outer bone that improved or the inner part. A Dexa scan does not tell you anything about the inner part.
@@lindakautzman7388 Side effects while taking a drug are one thing. Rebound effect that affects everyone who comes off of it is another.
My friend is 61 years old and she just came off Prolia after being on it for 5 years (she hasn't had any side effects). She is having her first reclast infusion in March. Her mother is still alive at 97 years old and her aunt lived to be 95. Obviously, she has good genes to live a long life but after watching this video she needs to come up with a plan for possibly 35 years or longer.
Just 3 days ago and intern and my GP suggested I begin Prolia or Fosamax for my recent dexa that since 2010 shows Tscores of -2.6 and -2.8. I chose the second recommendation of 1200 mg Calcium and 2000 IU of D3, continue my 2 mile walks, incorporate weights and resistance training. I started Collagen peptide powder and may not include as per this video. I have maintained a 50 lb. loss since 2018. We will check the dexa in a year and I hope to see mo loss and maybe grow. Guess it's time to watch the masterclass! So glad y'all are here!
Thank you for your support, I appreciate you sharing this!
I would reduce the calcium to 600mg and add vitamin K2 to your treatment plan. ☑️
Dr Lucas your voice is ideal for presentations. Tq for making these vids. and sharing your expertise.
Thank you so much, I greatly appreciate that! I am glad you are enjoying these videos!
I have been on Prolia three years,without any side effects. I was proscribed Fosamax first about 5 years ago. The Fosamax was not help ing.My dxa showed the Fosamax was not preventing my osteoporosis. My last dexa showed my score had improved. The side effects so far have not appeared. I am hoping to continually improve with lifestyle so i can improve my Dexscan.
Thank you for sharing your experience
I’m someone who has to take a hormone inhibitor because of estrogen positive breast cancer and will not take those drugs. I have taken garden of life bone growth system instead and last dexa, a few days ago, in 6 months an increase in my spine of bone density, 8%, hip basically stayed the same, so I am pleased with the results and will continue since I did no exercise during that time to increase the density, so the system was the reason for the increase in my opinion. I’m 72 years young.
Congrats on the spine improvement! The Garden of Life system includes strontium which is known to increase bone density on DEXA scans. Dr. Lucas has a video on it, "Strontium: Missing Secret Ingredient to Reversing Osteoporosis or a Supplement Avoid at All Costs?" After watching the video, I elected to take it, but I also have upped my exercise regiment to include resistance training.
What is it grow bone?
Would like to know more of what exactly you are taking…as I too are on estrogen blocker for my cancer. Thank you
Hello,
I congratulate you on your success and your willingness to retest and verify improvement! This is a challenging area that is all too common.
I have very bad Osteoporosis diagnosed at 30, 32 years ago. I have not been able to start the exercise program because of other health issues like Epilepsy. I have refused all the drugs after trying one for 1yr, then read the s/e so chose never to take any again. These vitamins sound like they could be worth starting, I will look into The Garden of Life bone growth system, thank you for sharing.
You are a god send To have this data and the trial explained it monumental. Thank you Dr Doug
Thank you for watching!
So helpful, thank you, I have BVH an imbalance condition and fall easily, now use wheelchair, carnivore lifestyle now but I’m a young 76 and have suffered many fractures. So realise staying on Prolia is the best for me. Didn’t realise eczema was a side effect but have controlled with removing oxalates and salicylates from my diet. You are so right everyone is different and you must sensibly access what is right for you.
Thank you for sharing, I am glad you enjoyed this video!
I took one injection of Prolia back in 2017. I had a severe adverse reaction to it. Extremely sore and stiff joints and bone pain in my thighs and shoulders. Hands were stiff every morning. Took approximately 18 months to get out of my system. My doctor as well as myself attempted to contact the drug company, and bottom line they really did not care about the adverse effects. I absolutely refuse to put any of those medications in my body. Since then, I have only used natural calcium supplements, Vitamin D3, Vitamin K2 mk7. From one of your videos, I did order a supplement that has the calcium hydroxyapatite in it. I make every effort to eat a lot of greens and watch my diet. I walk every day along with some light weight bearing exercises. This past Dex scan showed a slight improvement. Thank you for the information on your site, I am finding it very helpful.
Sorry to hear about your reaction! Side effect reporting is an issue with our system….
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I began to feel a loss of balance & confidence after beginning Prolia, until I added daily doses of collagen peptides. In my second year now ( age 83) I feel renewed confidence, balance, and perhaps even strength. Reportedly Collagen supplementation is considered ill advised, however, I am experiencing far more beneficial results than before. This discussion is informative, and I’d like to continue following. BTW, my daily exercise includes daily “ doggie walks” of 20-40 minutes whenever possible ( in Maine), some yoga, and doing my own housekeeping.
@@gourlief Who said you shouldn't take collagen? Humans slow production of collagen as we age and research supports supplementation. Take a look at our videos on training and consider some updates to your program :)
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You may Physionic’s video Witt review of the scientific studies on collagen helpful too. He’s a biology researcher.
Do as heavy exercise as you can. Light exercise do little for the skeleton and muscles. Lots of studies on that. Better heavier with fewer repetitions.
Geez, this is so depressing.....I see that many questions weren't answered so I will check out more videos. Thanks so much for this information.
Thank you for listening! Yes, we are slowly but surely getting to everyones questions :)
Look at videos about vitamin D, calcium, gut microbiome, resistance training and diet. Osteoporosis can be improved with all of this. Never back to younger years but a slight improvement and no worsening.
@@kats_journey_00 my dexa scan is below a 2.4
I had a gut feeling about this drug when I received a huge push to start it from a new doctor. His staff pushed so hard it made me uneasy so I began looking at what others have experienced. What I found was frightening. One woman said she’s been bedbound since taking these injections. That steered me away. I’m the breadwinner and can’t afford the risk.
@@myrarussell5986 good for you. Keep looking into this. I added Dc3 (mine was really low along with calcium) and am taking magnesium and K7 and Boron. I will not take any of those drugs after hearing about a few women who have osteo of the jaw. I discussed this with my endocrinologist and he told me he has seen no evidence of this but he in the same breath referred me to see my dentist and we would proceed from there. He is supposed to be the best in his field in Philadelphia and when I asked him about diet and exercise he said he placed no value on either. Told me to just skip Dunkin Donuts. That did it!!! Monster.
I'm convinced. I don't want Prolia. I am an active 71-year-old who still wants to cycle the Pacific Coast trail and Lake Huron. I did all my long-distance cycling after my second hip fracture at age 45. I think I will work on building bone density the natural way, through weights, skiing, hiking etc., as well as supplementation. I am also not as fearful of fractures as others. I've had great surgeons who have put me back together.
Thank you for sharing this!
If you still do all those things, you are lucky. Ex athlete at 70 and my bones are failing me quickly. Losing muscle as even with exercise no build up. I was on Prolio 10 yrs. ago and discontinued. That may be the issue.
I was mortified to learn her Dr put her on this. She doesn't have osteoporosis, just mild osteopenia! They used fear porn every year to get another dose into her. After a little education and a trip to the dentist, which raised that concern, she was convinced to take no more and told the drs to take another look at her test results. They very reluctantly agreed. She now takes boron and other multi minerals and does resistance training at Kieser 3x/week. She turns 86 this year and has some falls without any breakages. These industries need independent regulation. Enough of big (p)Harma
Glad to hear she is on a better path. Thank you for sharing this!
Yep. 15 years ago i had a severe reaction to a biphosphanate infusion...i was told i could have no more. End of story until 15 years later when an endodontist asked me had i had this drug previously. There was no hand out, no discussion about risks when i had the infusions. now, i have been identified as having necrosis of the jaw. No i'm sorry, no help, just more medical bills. Doctors take an oath of " do no harm!" What happened?
I’m sorry you had that reaction. Your doctor was likely doing what they thought was best for you. Consent should be obtained before an infusion but it would have stated that is a low risk of that kind of complication and you would have likely had the infusion anyway. Hindsight can be frustrating with procedures even when consent is appropriately obtained. True informed consent is not really possible.
What was your reaction ?
I've been on it for several years, with GOOD results, with NO PROBLEMS so far!!!!
I'd LOVE YOUR NATURAL health e- book for bone health!!!!
THANK YOU for EVERYTHING!!!!
Thank you for watching! You can download the free e-book here --> www.optimalbonehealth.com/ebook
So how do you know you have good results? What sort of proof? I’m asking and all curiosity and sincerity..
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I'm so scared about my jaw and hips now. Yes my teeth started cracking. My DR NEVER TOLD ME this. Now I have to carefully transition to a different drug before my next 6 months injection deadline.
Thank you for sharing this. You may benefit from our free next Bone Foundations Masterclass session. You can find more information here --> www.optimalbonehealth.com/build-bone
A random message was sent to me regarding this & an appointment made for me without telling me what it was & why I'm being approached. I cancelled the appointment & came here to find out what this is. OMG I'm glad I did! I'm in my late 50s with no prior complaints about bone issues.How dare my doctor ATTEMPT to try out a relatively new drug on me without discussion & assuming I would take medication with such terrible sode effects.
Welcome to our community!
Thank you so much for this information. I was really one of those who are looking for a decision. I have had 3 doses of prolia. Now desperately trying a way out. Doctors don't support it. They want me to be on this drug for ever. I am 53, don't want to live on this. I am active, do Yoga, exercise, eat healthy.
Now, I will not take prolia. But still afraid of after effects of stopping it.
Thank you for sharing this. Checkout our free Bone Foundations Masterclass if you have not. This could be beneficial to you, you can find further information here ---> www.optimalbonehealth.com/build-bone
Thank you for your honest evaluation of this drug.
I am cramming to be prepared for an appointment to test my hormones and to discuss my osteoporosis diagnosis.
This NP tried to push prolia on my elderly mother and she said absolutely not.
From all the videos I’ve watched recently I’m inclined to agree w my wise momma.
I have started paying more attention to getting the 1200 mg of calcium w my food, was already taking Vit D but now combined w K2, walking on treadmill 30 minutes and doing other exercises for osteoporosis too.
Otherwise I do lots of outside yard & gardening work also.
Hopefully I can improve my bone strength naturally 🙂. 2:34
Good start! Keep watching for more tips and consider our master class!
@@Dr_DougLucas I’m already registered for it and looking forward to it.
That is great. We look forward to seeing you! Thank you for your support!@@cindypatrick785
I’m taking
Vitamina D
K2
Boron
Cilica
Magnesium
Went to osteoporosis to osteopenia
Nice! Great job rechecking.
Hi so happy for you can you please tell me did you take all these supplements individually or on one product & what brands please much appreciated ❤
I've been on Prolia for 5 years, I was put on tamoxifen for several years and my bone density tanked. Before I can receive an injection I get bloodwork and my CA and vitamin D is checked. So far my bone density is improving and I've started doing strength training and impact training and improving diet. I do wish I had started sooner. So far no side effects.
Thank you for sharing your experience with this!
I am so thankful your video popped up in my feed! I recently went to my Dr. for a check up and she wanted me to take that Prolia or Fosamax. I recently fell and fractured my left knee cap. So she says since I have had a fracture now we need to “take the next step.” I had not heard of Prolia but did not like the idea of an injection. So I told her I’d take the Fosamax. I read up on Prolia and with your video I am glad I did not agree to take it. Another Dr on YT explained that those DEXA scans are done comparing our bones to that of a 35 y/o!! That’s crazy. I’m not going to take the Fosamax either. Another Dr. had prescribed it to me a few years ago and I didn’t take it then either. I am taking calcium, D3 and K2 and multi vitamins. I will download your e-book. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed this video! Thank you for sharing this, I greatly appreciate your support!
I'm under Her 2 breast cancer treatment with bone metastasis. Taking Ribociclib, Denosumab and Fulvestrant. I'm very well apart the pain in muscle and bones day & night. It's a nightmare. I'll have a conversation with the onco about stop DENOSUMAB! I never had such horrible pain, only after start with Denosumab became worse and worse, can't sleep. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us Dr🙏
Thank you for sharing your experience with this!
Thanks for this. I would like to get some idea of what a soid plan consists of when one comes off these drugs. I have increased my weight-bearing exercises; I am eating prunes daily, I have increasingly become more vigilant about my intake of vitamins and minerals that support bone density, I have increased my magnesium intake, I take vitamins D & K as well as other vitamins, both in term of diet and supplementation and lastly, I have a very strong positive mental attitude. I have done all this through my own research as my doctors do not provide any other information apart from that relating to the drugs.
Hello,
Consider our master class for more info. The link is in the video description. You are definitely on the right track!
Same here..Even the bone specialist had nothing to offer except a choice of drug.
@@lindakautzman7388 I am going to a bone specialist tomorrow at a university health center. I do know that they do ultrasound bone scanning and they use the LIFTMOR resistance training program. I am hoping that I can do that program because the drug side effects are even more frightening than osteoporosis itself.
Three years now and it’s been helpful blood work up before I get the injection I feel it’s working and I’m happy too be in good health and my bones are in good shape according to the dexa scan and what my Rheumatologist tells me .
There's a time and place!
Thanks for sharing
1:34 Prevents osteoclasts and prevents osteoclasts from making bone???
Hi there. Hope I didn't mis speak. Clearly osteoclasts break down bone and osteoblasts to the opposite.
Thank you for this honest, informative video. My Endocrinologist said the only reaction he had known was a rash at the injection site otherwise no side effects so I was scheduled for first Prolia infusion 3 months ago but cancelled it after reading bad patient reviews. My husband read them too and said "You are not taking that". Taking all recommended supplements and exercise. Hoping to see improvement in next year's DEXA.
Let us know how it goes!
Recently, diagnosed with severe osteoporosis and encouraged to go on Prolea, pending approval from kidney specialist, I was super happy to hear this. I know I will find it helpful and will listen to it multiple times.Thank you!
Thanks for sharing!
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I have been taking Prolia for about 5 years now. Others have commented about teeth problems while taking it but for me, I had teeth problems before starting prolia like breaking teeth but since taking prolia I have not lost anymore teeth and I feel like its helped strengthen my teeth in addition to strengthening my bones as my Osteoporosis/penia numbers have gradually improved to the point where my dr told me after my last dexa scan that I almost don't qualify as having osteoporosis/penia any longer. It has been a good medication for me and I have had no side effects at this point in time and have only good things to say for it...but as with most medications you only hear from the complainers who have had issues, not the people who have had no problems. I know my doctor is considering taking me off it down the road and that is why I listened to your video but I still feel just as confused about going off it as I did before listening to your video oth er than knowing that people can be safely taking it up to 10 years as it looks like I may be headed in that direction.
Thank you for sharing your experience. It sounds like you could benefit from the next free Bone Foundations Masterclass we have coming up if you have not attended one before. You can find more information here -->www.optimalhumanhealth.com/build-bone
I have sjogrens and osteoporosis doctors want me on Prolia. I find it very interesting that you said long term side effect neocrosis...this is what I am concerned about especially with the sjogrens. No doctor or dentist have studied both and Prolia. So, now I am not sure what to do. I really struggle with this. I can't take Fosamax. I am already 75.
Thank you for sharing this. Checkout our masterclass or healthspan nation if you have not. We are able answer more specific questions like this through those platforms. Links for both of those are in the video description :)
Thanks!
Thank you for watching!
Thank you for explaining Relative Risk versus Absolute Risk. 🙏
Thank you for watching!
Excellent review of this controversial drug! I appreciate the description of the scenarios where Prolia, or bisphosphonates for that matter, might be appropriate.
However, knowing how frequently PCPs prescibe these meds I can't help but think of the saying "When the only tool you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail."
Your absolutely right. As a surgeon I fell into this same trap. Everyone has a surgical problem. It's what I do. The expectation when going to a traditional doctor should be a pharmaceutical. It's what they do.
Love that saying. I've never heard it before but it's brilliant 😂
@@rumdealThe actual saying is “If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every PROBLEM as a nail”. Not EVERYTHING, lol.
Thanks so much. I really appreciate this information as a springboard for finding out how best to help myself.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching
Where can we get your diet recommendations? And exercise suggestions ????
Hi! I have multiple videos on each of those topics on my channel here --> th-cam.com/channels/wdGGy-YA3p28mYbfh19xqA.html
This is really great…. Breaks it down to the absolute risk that is critical , the best !
Glad it was helpful for you!
here from Italy. 52 years, severe osteoporosis with two vertabral fractures, doctor in medicine, soon will have my medications ; very very worried.
thank you for your video
Thank you so much for sharing all of this. It sounds like you could benefit from the next free Bone Foundations Masterclass we have coming up if you have not attended one before. You can find more information here -->www.optimalhumanhealth.com/build-bone
Ever since I got the one and only injection, it seemed like everything started hurting. I stopped after one shot and now my legs, back, hips, ribs and feet hurt still. It's been over a year and I am miserable! I didn't even have full blown osteoporosis and am not at all happy that my doctor never told me of possible side effects! I wish I never took this awful drug!
I am so sorry to hear that, thank you for sharing your story on this!
I was dumb enough to have two shots even after feeling "not right ”. after taking the first one. Since then I have never been the same. My whole body is falling apart and I really believe it's because of this drug! Have told my doctors that I'll never do another.
How old? I ask because I'm 44 & trying to figure long-term :(,,, I DISLIKE pharmaceuticals, but I'm terrified of fracturing my osteoporotic spine. :(
I need to call you!! For years, all I've been told is that I have osteopenia. The scan I had just this week said the same. I did get a couple of msgs from the pcp saying my spine looked better, but my femur was worse. To me, that implies that my bones have not been great and have only been told that I have osteopenia. The pcp asked if I wanted to take medication. For the last 8-9 years, I've tried to have conversations with this Dr about muscle and bone pain.
I am SO Frustrated!!!
You are not alone! We would be more than happy to speak with you and discuss this further. You may schedule a discovery call at the following link -->www.optimalbonehealth.com/membership
So helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much for this info. My gynae wanted to send me a script for Boniva. I expressed concern about the side effects. She then suggested I see an osteoporosis specialist who knows more about Prolia. I have canceled my appointment after learning more from people like you. I am 59. My lumbar spine is -2.7. I will do everything I can naturally and re scan in 1 year.
Thank you for sharing this! It sounds like you could benefit from the next free Bone Foundations Masterclass we have coming up if you have not attended one before. You can find more information here -->www.optimalhumanhealth.com/build-bone
Thank u. I am so concerned as my dictir is now insisting. I am not doing all I can - duet exercise - and supplements are too expensive now. So scare. Fell and bfrije more than once. .
Thank you so much for sharing all of this. It sounds like you could benefit from the next free Bone Foundations Masterclass we have coming up if you have not attended one before. You can find more information here -->www.optimalhumanhealth.com/build-bone
Yes I will recommend this to my Dr who wants me to consider drugs for my bones! Thanks, have subbed and look forward to expanding my knowledge.
Thats great! I appreciate your support
I stopped my proliaa after about 2 years to get dental work done. This is where I am now. I had zero side effect to the drug and zero when I stopped. Now I am at the crossroad of what I do for bone next. My GP is also an advocate for nutrition and exercise. As I am in the age groups mentioned I am going to discuss in depth now the best way to manage my bone health moving forward.
That's great you have a supportive MD! Consider yourself lucky. If you are searching for options, consider our master class. Link in video description.
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Thank you so much for such a clear, concise explanation. It is so helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks. I am 76 and I have osteoporosis and I’m not fond of taking one of those drugs. But this video you just did helps me understand better. So I’m hanging on a little longer before I take a drug. I have rheumatoid arthritis and I also have LEMS so my C-spine is the question in the future. But I’m not thinking of that only. I’m trying to stay alive as long as possible of course. I have only limited control of that one. Ha ha anyway thank you I am giving more info now to think about.
You are welcome. Wishing you the best on your journey.
Thank you so much for these videos! Your knowledge is so appreciated! I was put on Tymlos and after 2 injections I quit because of awful side effects. I'm 56 with -4
Thank you for sharing this!
I lost 2.5 inches, had rib fractures and was in osteoporosis in hip and spine. I took 19 months of timlos and went to osteopina. Now I am on prolia. I now see that all this was a good choice because for the time I have left, I will not have the same fear of severe breaks and I can enjoy my time. A 10 year plan is great for me.
There is a time and a place! Glad you are having a good experience.
Do not take Prolia, it will damage your teeth, your gums and your jaw.
same here. after my first 6 months on prolia: after 6 years of ibandronate and 2 years tymlos, I am finally improving and preserving bone. As a 'geriatric dentist' many of my patients are in misery with bone pain and I am glad I am on this med now. My doctor said the only drawback is that if I come off the prolia we may see decrease.
Seriously?
Should be off the market...not worth the risk fractures tooth loss no thanks
I’ve had prolia for 6 yrs every 6 mths, I’m 77 now, after major knee and tibia fracture, no side affects at all.
Thank you for sharing this!
Thanks for sharing g
This seemed to be a very balanced professional overview of Prolia. I appreciate the unbiased review
Thank you for watching!
Thanks dr Doug. Wish i came across it before starting Prolia. Fortunately....i hope....being my first injection...i do not have dire consequences , since i do not intend to continue it. Have a very good osteopath that has helped me for many years through my injures and i will follow his exercises. Thanks so so much
Thank you for sharing this! It sounds like you could benefit from the next free Bone Foundations Masterclass we have coming up if you have not attended one before. You can find more information here -->www.optimalhumanhealth.com/build-bone
Thanks for the science and the nuance
Thank you for watching
I have had 3 injections so far but I have been suffering with bone pain and would like to quit, but my doctor insists I stay on it. I did have a wrist fracture 2 years ago and my wrist aches all the time now. I will be 70 on my next birthday and finding it difficult to sleep due to back pain. I'm wondering if it is worth it. I try to stay active and walk an hour almost every day, I was diagnosed with Graves Disease in 2007 and have been on anti thyroidal medication daily.
I’m sorry to hear of your difficulties. If you want to come off of the drug you should have a follow up conversation with your doctor and explain your symptoms and discuss alternatives. Ask them what the long term plan is for you.
What are your thoughts on Strontium citrate along with Boron and Silica? My mom has been on Prolia for 10 years and is 63 now. According to her scan she is losing calcium and her doctor is recommending absolutely nothing. Also her chances of finding another bone specialist are small due to where she lives. I am desperately trying to help her. Being on Prolia too long and not getting any benefits but is experiencing vertigo, hip pain and lower calcium in her bone. She was also told that if she breaks her hip they couldn't even operate her due to low bone density. Thank you so much for the information you share.
Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan
Thanks for this explanation. I knew coming off the drug was a very serious issue but I did not realise that the bone turnover was suppressed in this way. I was 65 when I was diagnosed with osteoporosis of the spine and the doctor said to go on Prolia and I’d have to take if for the rest of my life. I said to her if I lived till 85 that would be 20 years on this drug. Is that safe? What are the longer term risks? She said they didn’t have any data on that period of use but it is a safe drug. That’s when I started doing some research and was horrified about the bone loss rebound effects. I stopped trusting my doctor given her cavalier attitude. I think the evidence does clearly show increased bone density achieved with it but at the back of my head I just thought this was somehow interfering too much with what should be a natural and necessary body function - break down and build up bone and you have clarified that in your video.
You nailed it. There is no 20 year approach with the current drug options available. I fear the impact of 15-20 years of bone metabolism suppression too.
I stopped after 4 injections. It was awful. I will just take my chances.
@@terrifiorelli9819 Please consider seeing your doctor. The risk of rebound bone loss is high and the doctor may offer an alternative for a period of time until it’s clear what your bone density is. Best woishes. None of these options and decisions are easy.
Thank you for your honest analysis of this drug. Patients have a right to know.
Thank you for watching!
I am 66. My doctor suggested Prolia at my last physical. I feel like showing her the negatives and asking her "would YOU take it"??? (she is a few years younger than I) I honestly don't think she researches anything, the pharmaceutical rep probably is her only source of info on this stuff. I take a Calcium supplement that includes Boron & Silicon, Vitamin D + K2, Collagen Peptides, very active and work out a lot with weights and walking and treadmill as well. I eat a healthy diet, do not consume too much alcohol and don't eat high sodium foods. I tripped and fell last year on a walk and although sore for a week, nothing was broken.
Thank you for sharing this!
Can you discuss in further detail the risks of infection while taking Prolia?
Great question! Checkout The OsteoCollective if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.optimalhumanhealth.com/osteocollective
I have had in the past stem cell infusion. You mentioned stem cells. Would having stem cell infusion be a good thing for me. I am high risk and do not want to go on drugs. I am a Canadian and would love to sign up with your team. Thank you for all your videos they have helped me greatly in that I do not feel alone and do not have to depend on drugs.
Hi there. We currently can’t directly with Canadians but we are looking into international licensure so stay tuned. As for stem cells. I am not convinced of the benefits yet and there are risks which are not often discussed!
Can yiu discuss the issue of old bone buildup - not real string bone - by stopping the osteoclasts
Great recommendation! Thank you!
I was unable to tolerate Fosamax and another oral med for osteopenia. Annual Reclast infusions did not stop my numbers for getting worse. Took Prolia shots 3 times and got back to normal range but had to stop it due to hearing loss side effect. Went back on Reclast but numbers dramatically worsened. Had issues with gums healing when tooth w root canal removed. Has planned to do dental implant but could not from slow healing. Got two permanent bridges instead. Just now made the connection with Prolia. Waiting to get latest Dexa scan results?
Thank you for sharing all of this!
Great video, contents. I'd like to here more, my path to take. I'm 63 very healthy, crossfitt'er, trailrunner, Spartan racer. I'm leaning on not taking Prolia. You gave leaning that way as well. You mentioned a hormone drug possibly in my case? Can you tell me more please? I just did a bone density test and I'm near -2.5 (was - 2.3 in 2021). Dr Ali Rizvi out of VA Orlando suggested I get this shot every 6 mos. I'm researching still. . . . Please reply.
It’s great that you’re staying active and looking into all your options! If you're leaning away from Prolia, checkout the video on my channel called "Can You Stop Prolia? Or Will It INCREASE Fracture Risk??" I’d recommend discussing your concerns with your doctor, who can guide you on potential therapies that may align better with your lifestyle and health goals. Keep up the research-knowledge is key!
So glad I found your helpful channel
Thank you!
My endocrinologist told me that it was simple to transition off orolia by taking bisphosphonates. I was skeptical. Is that a bonafide, research based transition plan? Can you comment please? I insisted with my doc that I need a 20 year plan at least at age 70 and not to talk about Prolia until after 80. Already experienced the devastating effects of my mom going off Prolia suddenly. I wish I knew more then so I could have intervened!
Hello,
There are multiple studies that recommend switching from Prolia to bisphosphonates after 5 to 10 years.
The challenge that I see with this is that this is still not a 20 year plan. This is a maximum 15 year plan and you’re right, what is the solution at 70, 80 or 90?
So, whenever possible, we try to find a comprehensive solution that will delay or eliminate the need for osteoporosis drugs.
So, I’m 58, diagnosed at 47( didn’t go on ANY MEDS!) my scores( 2 yrs ago) were -4.3 of my spine, I started fracturing( T-8 and T-10) I’m afraid to do ANYTHING!!!
I may have to go on medication 😞
That is severe disease. A comprehensive plan is in order. That could include medications in my hands.
I meni je 4,3 primam proliju
Thank you. I took it for only a year but additional pain I experienced made me stop ( 3 mo now).
By the way I was on Fosavance for 10 years.
Bummer. If you need help with a comprehensive plan consider our masterclass or a consult to see if our programs are a good fit for you.
I'm so confused! I;m 71, slim and have exercised most of my life since about age 27 - gym, cardo, lightish weights, walking, horse riding. I had the test for Osteoporosis and my doc told me I had it. She then suggested Prolia. I'm due for my 3rd one in a couple of days. She gave me the option of the some other drugs but thought the side effects of Prolia weren't as bad so I agred to have the injections. Now I'm reading all this stuff about it and getting so worried. I've never had a fracture even after falling off my bike and horse a few years ago. This was before taking Prolia of course. At the moment I don't seem to have any problems with my jaw/teeth although I did have a crown on one of me teeth after my first injection with Prolia. I had a crack in an old filling so I don't think it was anything to do with the Prolia. It worries me now that I could get fractures if I go off it in 10 years. I'll then be 81 and will anyone even care.....should I get re-tested and after how long taking Prolia?
Hi. Tough predicament. We recommend testing every 1-2 years with imaging to verify improvement with programs and drugs. The risk of rebound fracture is real with Prolia discontinuation and is something that will need to be addressed. It's likely easier to come off it now than in 10 years but that will depend on each unique scenario.
Ok, this scares the crap out of me! I am 62 I have had leukemia for 19 years. I started ivig 5 years ago and my immune is still low. I get my first shot tomorrow then the following week IVIG. I'm fixing to start treatment for leukemia but I don't know yet which way we're going with treatment, now last week osteoporosis. What do I do? 😢
I'm so sorry to hear about everything you’re going through-it sounds like a lot to manage at once. It’s great that you’re taking steps to address your health. I highly advise checking out OsteoCollective if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.optimalhumanhealth.com/osteocollective
On Prolia for 36 months; developed Necrosis of jaw bone. Have been off Prolia for 24 months and my recent bone density shows a 13% bone loss. I’m 74 and truly scared to live. I’ve began 2024 with use of weights, macro awareness and walking. Can you help?
Louisiana resident
Hi! Thanks for being here, unfortunately I cannot make recommendations on TH-cam. We do have a free Bone Foundations Masterclass and our Health Span Nation is a great tool to jumpstart your journey. You can find the links for both of those in the video description :)
@@Dr_DougLucasWhy not?!!!!?????
I was given Fosamax the first time but gave me strong pains from my head to toe.. then, he said the next step is Prolia.. the first year I did not have any side effects at all but the next time I had muscle and bone pains for on and off.. every 2 years I check bone density test . The results are better but not 💯. I would like to stop but I’m scarred.
Thank you for sharing your experience-it's tough to navigate these treatment options, especially when dealing with side effects. It’s great to hear that your bone density results have improved, but I completely understand your concerns about continuing medication. It’s important to prioritize your comfort and well-being
I 22; was recently diagnosed with a rare disease called giant cell tumor about 3 months ago, my tumor was growing on my spinal cord (size of a lemon) it was taken out in whole in a emergency surgery. both my surgeon & oncologist mentioned getting on prolia, any thoughts considering I outside of this am still so young and healthy? I am a runner as well as a weightlifter and am concerned a bit. thanks!!
Thank you for sharing this, unfortunately I cannot provide specific recommendations through this platform, I would need to know a little bit more about you as well. Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan
Hi. At age 62 after a significant ankle break it was determined that I had Osteoperos. I was prescribed Prolia for 5 years. My specialist then changed me to Alcasta Intravenous once yearly for the last 3 years. I take all the suppliments that Dr Lucas recommends. I am a fit 70 years old and would like to know if I can go off the yearly intravenous and was wondering how to do this and what to expect if I did. I am in Melbourne, Australia. Thanks in advance 😊
Hi Susan, Coming off of bisophosphonate is possible but without a comprehensive plan in place to support bone, bone loss is expected.
Thank you
Hi! Dr. Doug: So, what is the alternative drug to Prolia. My sister just started Prolia. She has taken it 2x. I am glad I found this video of yours. Thank you so much for the info.
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@@Dr_DougLucasDo we have to pay?!!!
I was diagnosed with breast cancer. I had my surgery and on the 5 yr pill. Both my gyn and oncologist want to put me on prolia. Never really exclaimed anything but said i had a#2 on my scan. This is terrifying and I don't know what to do
Thank you for sharing this, unfortunately I cannot provide specific recommendations through this platform, I would need to know a little bit more about you as well. Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan
I enjoyed your video. I am 65 and still consider myself to be active. Although lately, I have been to achy to do much activity as usual. I have been on Alondronate since March 2024 (T-3.0). I am 30 pounds over weight and I have an immunodeficiency (Rheumatoid Arthritis). I also have some kind of glucose intolerance as I noticed that anytime I have even a sip of sweet drink or eat sweets, my joints start to feel on fire. Lately on Alondronate, I also feel that burning and deep pain. I am thinking about asking dr if I can start taking GLp to ease most of my other symptoms and take off 30 pounds. Do you know if I should take these two meds? together? I am not prediabetic on paper, but I feel that I am as I had gestational diabetes 34 years ago, I feel that nauseating debilitation when I have eaten sweets which I do avoid and monitor my intake when I do. I would rather not take Alondronate for 10 years as you say, it may still suppresses bone turnover. II believe Alondronate is giving me worse bone and joint pain. I am starting a weight lifting class next week, but I try to walk 8,000 to 10K steps a day. I also do my P/T exercises for lower back . hip, and shoulder pain. I want to get back to myself. I hate being in this much pain every day. I want to loose 30 pounds with the help of glp but am afraid it may have a bad interaction with alondronate.
Thank you for sharing your journey-it sounds like you've been navigating a lot! Checkout The OsteoCollective if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.optimalhumanhealth.com/osteocollective
Wishing you relief and progress-you're doing amazing! 💪✨
What supplements should we take to prevent fractures without medication?
Hi! Checkout the video on my channel called "The Best Supplements for Osteoporosis in 2024"
Please give me a straight honest answer. I find you are more reliable, and trustworthy to ask this question. Reclast and Prolia which is ideal for persons who have to take medications for osteoporosis (Bone test show -3.8)
It depends on the situation! Straight and honest.
Thank you for this great info.. I really am afraid of these drugs.
Thank you for watching!
Prolia was so expensive even with insurance. Doctor said I had to take 2000 mgof calcium a day with it. Took it for three years then he tells me he doesn’t understand but results were worse. Ordered X-rays and with cat scan they see calcium was going to my main aorta and caused an anorism. I immediately came off it and of course he was not happy. Been off it and on vitamins. Staying mainly the same. Of course I still have to worry about my anorism. That’s my story. It’s all poison .
Thank you for sharing. You're correct. It's all poison, but hopefully with a desired side effect. Sounds like your experience was not so. Sorry to hear but know you are not alone...
I hated it too. Never taking any of these again.
What about inj teriparatite for osteoporosis?? What is your opinion on that injectable drug?
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Thank you; that was a very interesting and informative video.
I would be interested in your views regarding Zoledronic Acid. The pros and cons of this drug please.
Glad you enjoyed it! We will add this to our list to look into
Thank you for great information
Thank you for watching!
Great video! So informative.
Thank you for watching!
Watching this video gives me concerns about the negative effects of Prolia ( on it 3yrs now). So what kind of tests do i need to take in order to assess whether it has improved or made my condition worse. And whether i can stop taking it & switch back to “safer” alternatives. Pls tell me what steps i need to take. I am 74yo & looking forward to many more years of active exercise. I stopped walking & zumba due to a mild meniscal tear but am getting better. Would like to return to more active exercise. Thank you
Thank you for sharing this! Check out my video called "The Best Tests for Osteoporosis NOT DEXA".
How and where can I order calcium hydroxyapatite
Please inform me
Thanks
God bless
Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan
I've been on prolia about 3 years I have osteopinia. I've never had any side effects but I've never had any increase in bone density. It doesnt seem to have any effect on me. As I do lots of jogging cycling and swimming, weights, resistance bands, take supplements including protein supplements etc I've come to the conclusion its because I'm a lacto-vegetarian and still not getting enough protein. The GP was horrified that I was planning to come off prolia. I feel pretty hopeless about it all now but after this video I still feel I should come off it.
Thank you so much for sharing this. I advise coming to our next free Bone Foundations Masterclass if you have not attended one before. This could be beneficial to you, you can find more information here --> www.optimalbonehealth.com/build-bone
@@Dr_DougLucastried going to your site my computer said it a bad site not Safe
I had Prolia injection for 2 years after i was diagnosed with severe osteoporosis, an incidental finding after a freak accident that fractured my T12. I stopped having the injection because of muscle spasms. Now I am being referred to an endocrinologist by my primary care physician to resume my prolia injection after my bone density exams which revealed that my osteoporosis is severe. I don't feel comfortable having these injections. I rather do my exercises and managed my osteoporosis with healthy bone building foods. I am 74 years old and very active. Any recommendations is greatly appreciated. I would like to buy that book too!
The book and our masterclass is a great starting point.