Hackintosh in 2022 - Does It Make Any Sense

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  • @Hirokee_
    @Hirokee_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I actually switched from M1 to hackintosh and the experience is far better.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Tell me more.

    • @Hirokee_
      @Hirokee_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@BarryJohns it's actually quite simple, my mouse and my QHD monitor are not compatible with M1 so I switched back. Plus I can get rid of Rosetta which is a bonus. I do understand it's a very personal thing and not everyone would benefit from switching back.

    • @tinnakornsai4404
      @tinnakornsai4404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BarryJohns I tell you more Barry, Subscribe, like and share the video and stay tuned for up coming videos 😝

    • @abluntdaily
      @abluntdaily 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Hirokee_ hey that doesn’t really make sense. How could a monitor and mouse not be compatible? Were you using a quality displayport to usb-c cable for the monitor? Is the mouse wired or wireless?

    • @Hirokee_
      @Hirokee_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@abluntdaily the drivers / kernel extensions are not compatible with M1. surely I can plug them in and they have basic functionality, but that’s as far as it gets. I can’t turn on hidpi for the monitor, nor can I configure my mouse settings.

  • @ABC1MCE2
    @ABC1MCE2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The more important things is if what you have is working and is stable, keep using it til you need to upgrade. I just Hacked my PC in November and PT has never been more stable. This means more to me at this point then any new computer.

    • @PeterJaquesMusic
      @PeterJaquesMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Enjoy! I’m two years on my Hack, and it’s the best studio computer I’ve ever had

    • @alexandereditsvideo
      @alexandereditsvideo ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I built my Hackintosh in 2020 and it is reliable, incredibly stable, and works just fine for audio production and post. Pro Tools works, Media Composer works, DaVinci Resolve works, and all the Adobe apps, and the only reason I’m still watching TH-cam videos about Hackintoshing is I’d like to build an even more powerful machine in 2024. I understand that Apple Silicon has changed the game substantially but with the price to performance ratio still wack I’m going to build my own.

  • @PeterJaquesMusic
    @PeterJaquesMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’ve got an M1 MacBook Air (16gb/1tb) and an i9-9900k Hackintosh i built in April 2020. When i need to work reliably in Pro Tools, i absolutely still use the Hack. It’s so much more stable and reliable, and it’s also a bit more powerful. Plus i can fit as many (decently priced) SSDs as i want (3 and counting) and upgrade the RAM.
    Keeping in mind the Studio adage of “once everything is working, don’t mess with it,” I’m not a chaser of the latest OS (though the Hack is running Big Sur, not something ancient). So if/when future OSes or PT versions stop supporting Intel, it’s not like I’ll have to stop using my Hack. I think I’ll be running it until 2028 at least. And at the moment, for a solid, affordable, expandable studio rig, I’m still team Hackintosh, 100%.
    I’ll definitely do editing on the M1, when i want a break from the desk, but there are just enough issues that i don’t trust it for tracking or mixing.

    • @PeterJaquesMusic
      @PeterJaquesMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Jose Gerardo Rendon Santana my point is that i have work to do now. For pro tools to be a) released for silicon, and b) stable, and for all the plugins to make the transition too… we’re looking at another year at least for the transition to be completed.
      Fyi i also use Ableton, which just released its first silicon version yesterday. The Hackintosh is still at least as fast as the M1 Air, in my brief test today…

  • @ABC1MCE2
    @ABC1MCE2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Let me get this straight. People actually believe that Apple will stop supporting Intel Macs 2 years or so after their desktop computers has transition to M1 or M2? Many professionals have 10k to 50k Intel Mac Pros and I highly doubt that Apple will leave them high and dry in such a short time period. I guess if this happens Apple will get a pass from the Apple Fan boy's as usual.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There are people who are so close minded that they will latch onto anything crazy thought they can to justify their thought that Mac's are bad, bad, bad........It's not worth the time it takes to respond half the time.

    • @JimJWalker
      @JimJWalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Look back at the history of how Apple moved on from PowerPC applications and half the amount of time due to how fast tech changes as we move forward.

    • @exploringearth3223
      @exploringearth3223 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hey moron what about the power pc cpu i was there and seen it happen apple fucked over everyone and there doing it again! apple cares less because u sheep will always buy take it hard and ask for another because ur all dumb !

    • @MyFeltMusic
      @MyFeltMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JimJWalker Exactly

    • @bluematrix5001
      @bluematrix5001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Apple as company sucks.... greed is their motivation.... they should be more open and allow people to upgrade their components

  • @pattskatoey3139
    @pattskatoey3139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes it still makes sense building a hackintosh in 2022.

  • @Mr.Zen_73
    @Mr.Zen_73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love my 16inch M1 Max, but still frustrated with some plugins dragging their feet with native software updates - I guess we just gotta wait a bit longer

    • @Mr.Zen_73
      @Mr.Zen_73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Snakejüce My macbook pro 16 M1 Max is awesome, but some software developers are slow to update their software (in particular audio software like Protools and Vienna Symphonic Library) so it can be frustrating waiting for certain apps to be updated and optimized for M1

  • @jcchaconjr
    @jcchaconjr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The problem with a Hackintosh is that the clock is ticking anyway. With the move to their own chips now, Intel based Macs will be end-of-life'd - Heck, even my 2008 MacBook Pro (Core 2 Duo) which came with MacOS Leopard was only able to get upgraded to Mountain Lion. That was 3 MacOS upgrades in a span of a little over 4 years. Apple will eventually cut support for Intel based Macs, and history shows that it will probably be no more than maybe 2 versions of MacOS.

  • @TouchToneDSG
    @TouchToneDSG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have a Hackintosh 128 gigs of ram 18 cores 28 tereabytes of nvme and sd hard drives and I've had no problems and I got it for un 4k vs the 50k with apple

    • @1972OGTony
      @1972OGTony 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      These dudes just be talking trying to justify paying that much money. These dudes really think them M1's beating 128gb of ram running at 3600mhz in the PC world. I'm running Alienware with 64gb at 3200mhz ram and my shyt is instantaneous on sample base instruments. I've seen producers try to load heavy Kontakt shyt and they're M1 is slow asf. I watched this dude say he was running 96 sample rate when tested out his M1 but never showed it lol it's was just trust me bro lol.

    • @TouchToneDSG
      @TouchToneDSG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@1972OGTony So I know the M1s Are great and I think he makes some really compelling points to future prove yourself but I have put my rig up against a laptop with the M1 chip in my rig blew it away especially when we got deep into plug-in land and started putting more heavier plug-ins on more tracks so I definitely get where you’re coming from but I do think once Apple comes out with a tower that has the M1 chip in it and you can get 12 cores or more game over

    • @1972OGTony
      @1972OGTony 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TouchToneDSG the cost won’t justify it and the latest Intel or Amd chips do enough for almost any job.

    • @TouchToneDSG
      @TouchToneDSG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1972OGTony Yeah I’m gonna hate to see the cost of those things they’re gonna be ridiculous I know it secondly my Intel stuff still works before my new build I had a computer from 2009 with the Intel stuff in it that still work like a champ

    • @28made5
      @28made5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Touch tone can you please send me the build parts I’m thinking about building my own and need someone reliable to get most recent working build lists

  • @vaibhavahujate
    @vaibhavahujate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video Barry,
    imo one thing people always seem to forget about working with a Hackintosh is official support.
    I'm not talking apple support but actually the software company's support.
    As I work with Dolby Atmos, I recently had a problem with the Dolby audio driver communicating with my 2015 MacBook Pro so I contacted Dolby, the first question that they asked me is if I'm running a Hackintosh....
    I later found out that if I said yes, they would've denied me support right there and that's also the case with most plugin companies.
    As professionals we need to get to work instead of dicking around with our machines if something goes wrong.

  • @BanksyLuk
    @BanksyLuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I get a Geekbench 5 Metal score of over 165000 on my AMD RX 6900 XT Hackintosh and it translates very well to the 3D volume rendering applications I use. M1 macs are still nowhere near that performance in volume rendering.

    • @sanaksanandan
      @sanaksanandan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the top most M1 is at 120000 metal score. coming M2 ultra will get above 165000 probably. But it will be expensive compared to hackintosh. And no upgradability. Where as you can upgrade 6900 xt to RX 7900 xt next year.

    • @kennethfajardo3604
      @kennethfajardo3604 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What bootloader are you using?

    • @BanksyLuk
      @BanksyLuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kennethfajardo3604 Opencore

  • @braunhausmedia
    @braunhausmedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the biggest problem a lot of us have with the M1 chips is the lack of RAM in the more affordable units and the inability to upgrade them. Media composers, for example, tend to have very Kontakt/RAM heavy templates that can't be handled by only 16GB of RAM, even if that RAM is more efficient. So for those of us who love MacOS, a Hackintosh is looking more and more like a solution, at least for the short term. If I could get an M1 iMac or Mac Mini right now with 128 gigs of RAM for an affordable price, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. But Apple's outrageous memory prices make that impossible for me. Even the 64gb models are above my price range.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here is the thing with RAM in the M1, it no longer works the way we are used to. 16 is more like 32-48, 32 more like 64-96. Same goes for video, you no longer use a video card, it’s all on the silicon chip. I worked on crazy large sessions with just an 8gb M1. To your point, not sure about the VI’s.

    • @braunhausmedia
      @braunhausmedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BarryJohns Yes, this is what I've heard and why I was hopeful, and maybe the people who say it doesn't work are full of it (you never know on the web). But even if it works, nearly $4K for a 64GB box is a hard pill to swallow, and I'm not willing to take the chance on a 16GB model for fear I'd regret it. That said, I bought an M1 Macbook Air for my wife and she absolutely loves it. I should probably steal it from her for a while and test it out. The problem is getting it out of her hands... ;)

  • @edwardx.winston5744
    @edwardx.winston5744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have an old MacPro3,1 (Early 2008) tower loaded with 48GB RAM and lots of HDDs and SSDs. It’s running OSX 10.15 Catalina (unsupported, via the great DosDude1’s patch), which means it essentially acts like a Hackintosh, with all the same benefits and drawbacks.
    Sometime in the coming year I’m going to get an M-based Mac Mini to use as my main studio CPU and relegate my old tower to just hosting sample libraries and back-up drives. I run Logic, and 99% of the 3rd party plug-ins I use are already Silicon-native (Waves, PSP), so I might never have to resort to Rosetta 2 once I make the switch.
    With the advent of Apple Silicon, the Hackintosh phenomenon will slowly fade into the mists of history. They just can’t compete economically with the cheapest M-based systems.

  • @TrappoLone
    @TrappoLone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every morning I wake up and I have a new doubt. Every morning I find the answer in your latest video :D

  • @humbleprogress1226
    @humbleprogress1226 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the concesus now that the mac studio's are out? I'm considering sticking with Hackintosh and buying the last intel chip/motherboard that MacOS will support and run that until, it is time to upgrade. And since I won't be able to I'll go with an official mac. Is that a good idea?

    • @musicalimarc
      @musicalimarc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m extremely happy with my base model Mac Studio. It runs circles around my 2020 iMac with the 16GB 6700XT gpu and is virtually silent. As we all know, in music production, hearing the computer fans in the background is not a good thing. I had to turn my home office into a recording/broadcast studio and the difference in terms of noise, between the iMac that I started with in 2020, and the Mac Studio is just incredible. I’m using Final Cut, Logic, and a few other things for different projects.

  • @DrewWalton
    @DrewWalton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It probably doesn't make sense to build a Hackintosh specifically to build a Hackintosh, but if you already have compatible parts it's absolutely viable to Hackintosh what you already have.

  • @Molt408
    @Molt408 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great channel!

  • @TouchToneDSG
    @TouchToneDSG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your point of view though

  • @Furybeatsgme
    @Furybeatsgme 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use logic as my main daw for making beats so as long as all the au plugins still work old and new I would consider the m1 but some of these are ESSENTIAL to my workflow so I'm stuck needing to replace my old computer but not knowing which route to go I have about 2k to spend would an Intel match up spec for spec to a m1 in that price range ?

    • @marlonoverstreet6624
      @marlonoverstreet6624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Logic is Apple so all the stock stuff should be good, maybe hit or miss with some third-party AU's. If you build an intel machine yourself, you can get close, but if you have it built by someone else you'll be on the other side of 3k just to compete with the M1. I have a Monster Hackintosh and I agree with Barry, Apple is just getting started.

    • @Furybeatsgme
      @Furybeatsgme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marlonoverstreet6624 I agree as well going apple will future proof me a little more for sure. I'd more than likely be putting it together myself tho. I install the latest version of Mac that still supports intel on a SSD for now I guess while I wait on the m Mac pro

  • @imprincehashimali
    @imprincehashimali 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love from Pakistan.
    In one scenario, it may make sense to build Hackintosh. If you are on a tight budget of equal to or less than 800 USD and you want to experience the macOS, may be earlier versions of it, to see if they are worth transitioning to, so maybe for that enthusiast building a Hackintosh out of old parts may be something to try.

  • @JimGramze
    @JimGramze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apple's M1 processor is truly exciting. I'm expecting the other side to make a similar leap in a year or two.

  • @redmase1
    @redmase1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It haven’t been intel for a long time amd was the go to for hackintosh for the past 3-4 years now.

  • @americanbigelow
    @americanbigelow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just some quick FYIs on this: With Opencore and an intel CPU with integrated graphics like a 10400 or something like that, it's pretty easy to do and it works good. The massive problem: Thunderbolt on a Hickintosh Suh-Huh-Hucks! So... If you need that, probably not the greatest way to go. Also... Facetime doesn't work worth a damn if you need that. Regarding the piracy issue, If you're a nerd like me you can run OSX over KVM with hardware passthrough. I've done it with up to Big Sur. Logic runs great but this method is very technical to do correctly with "native like" performance. So get ready. But... It's technically not piracy as long as Apple continues to be okay with Virtualization. Thanks for the video Barry.

    • @marlonoverstreet6624
      @marlonoverstreet6624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't build my Hackintosh But Thunderbolt Works pretty well. The Builder knows his ish!

    • @americanbigelow
      @americanbigelow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marlonoverstreet6624 that's awesome. In my experience with it you have to power up the thunderbolt device at exactly the right time during boot. After that, it works fine. Thanks for the reply.

    • @ABC1MCE2
      @ABC1MCE2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm running a PT Carbon, which is AVB, through a Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter to a Thunderbolt 2 to Ethernet. My Gigabyte z490 Vision D motherboard has two Thunderbolt 3 ports and I haven't had one problem be it powering up or connection wise. My PT Carbon running in PTU 2021.12 with PT Dock and two Artist Mix on macOS 10.15.7 is rock solid. Soon I'll borrow my friends Apollo Twin X and test that as well.

    • @americanbigelow
      @americanbigelow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ABC1MCE2 I guess my experiences have been outlyers. Thanks for the info.

  • @mrflynn01
    @mrflynn01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'M purchasing a M! Mac mini this year, I cant wait.

  • @rockchunk9417
    @rockchunk9417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hackintosh the ability to put multiple hard drives inside the case , Mac spaghetti junction of wires outside using up you usb3 ports or extremely expensive thunderbolt drives
    Apple just make a Mac mini or iMac that you can insert multiple drives into it like usb sticks/memory cards

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hate to break it to you, but that’s the future of both windows and Mac computers. If you take a look at the majority of newer thunderbolt capable motherboards, you’re gonna see that the number of PCIe slots is greatly dimenish, as well as the number of hard drive slots, there’s no one‘s really using spinning hard drives anymore. It’s much more efficient to do a thunder Raid system that’s external, than put multiple hard drive’s internally. On top of that, there’s only one desktop, IMAX excluded of course, because there an all in one, that Apple is made over the last several decades, that you can add additional internal hard drive‘s, and that was the trashcan.

  • @citizenworld8094
    @citizenworld8094 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it true the name Barry comes from Finbarr?

  • @bluematrix5001
    @bluematrix5001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can not upgrade components on Mac mini/studio and you forgot to say that huge limitation

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is NOT a huge limitation. That’s a very old mindset. I have built so many PC’s over the years and a very very small percentage of people actually ever open the case, and I built them for Audio purposes for them.
      The Only drawback is you can’t upgrade the RAM. Hard drive I could care less about, external thunderbolt drives are as good as anything internal these days.
      If you need to add PCIe cards, then add a thunderbolt enclosure.
      The percentage of computer tweaked in audio or anything else is very small and not worthy of making designs to please that group and I’ve been in that group a long time.

  • @beto3707
    @beto3707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It will take a long while for Apple to completely transition into their new chip. I say at least 5 years. Apple still needs to support those crazy powerful (and expensive) Intel iMac Pro and Mac Pro build from 2-3 years ago. But I am very interested in the next desktop version of the Mac Pro with m1 chip (or maybe it will be called m2).

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They said when they introduced the M1 they would have everything converted in 2 years. They are due to release three new Mac’s next month. My bet is the iMac Pro will be in the summer and finally the MacPro in the fall.
      The new Mac Mini Pro set for next month is very attractive, and the word on the street is they are going to add a mini MacPro.

    • @beto3707
      @beto3707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BarryJohns Yes, they will have their line-up converted in 2 years, but I was speaking in regards to support like macOS updates, patches, etc.. for those machines. I still have my old Macbook Pro 2012 (15-inch, Mid 2012) and that thing was supported for almost 10 years. I currently have an Macbook Pro 13-inch m1 and its pretty good for me with Cubase, Logic, and Ableton with all my plugins, hardware, and stuff. Anyway, yes that Mac Mini Pro is looking very good; I cant wait to see the specs and its capability. But looking forward that Mac Pro this fall as you said; it's going to be a killer.

  • @awaizmukadam7494
    @awaizmukadam7494 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the way you say Okaaay a million times, OKaaay.

  • @dyovchev
    @dyovchev ปีที่แล้ว

    Waiting for the day that a macbook with Apple Silicone will outperform my ryzen 9 hackintosh (that is 3 years old already) with same amount of RAM for more than half the price in Xcode build...

  • @nicksaya
    @nicksaya 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ram is the issue for composers running 2,000 vst instruments you need large mounts of ram that workstation can provide

  • @JimJWalker
    @JimJWalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are right, it probably is not a smart long term move. A 2022 Hack will give you about 3-4 years before the Apple Silicon versions of Mac software will be dominate and Intel versions will slowly vanish. I will be moving from my old Hackintosh that is running Windows 10 to the next gen MacMini when they are released.

    • @mrflynn01
      @mrflynn01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Smart move!!!!

    • @LittleBoyD
      @LittleBoyD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't forget that is going to be virtualized (e.g. Proxmox)! Hackintosh won't be dead, actually ARM did easier job to get newer and better PCs run Mac although they are not compatible. Virtualization is the future, but I appreciate the work of OpenCore project! All they did was just killing one classical method of hackintoshing.

    • @JimJWalker
      @JimJWalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LittleBoyDVisualizations are cool, and still relevant right now but history tells a different story. By 2012 every PowerPC app in the Apple software ecosystem was long dead and forgotten. I see a similar fate for Intel based Apple software by 2030 or earlier. I couldn't imagine a reason to run a PowerPC virtualization by 2010-ish. A clear signal to me to me that Hacks are dead in the long term.

    • @LittleBoyD
      @LittleBoyD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JimJWalker Hi, of course! I think will be there people that will try anything. I think Proxmox will be developed in a such a way by then...of course, in that year you won't have anymore a reason to stay on a hackintosh...but for now...Apple is too expensive for my needs. I will stick to the hackintosh how long it will be able to run.

    • @JimJWalker
      @JimJWalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LittleBoyD Run it as long as you can! =)

  • @SaccoBelmonte
    @SaccoBelmonte 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love if you do direct comparisons with the same plugins between Windows, Mac pre M1 and post M1 on modern machines. So far what I've seen is not like the M1 allows you a lot more plugins, is like a 10% difference in some cases and in others is the same.
    I want to see how many of the same plugin you can load in a 5900X based machine using ASIO vs your M1 in similar programs at the same sample rate (Could be Protools Windows/Mac)
    I think we should be careful not to overhype the M1. I also saw that non Rosetta apps like Ableton Live run like crap (50% more CPU usage than common non M1) so the audio ecosystem is not fully ready (apps and plugins).
    I have a beast 5900X machine if you wanna compare some plugins we might have in common.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think that could be fun! Let’s wait until everything has been ported over to be Apple Silicon native. I have my Sons Gaming PC, my wife’s Intel MacBook Pro as well as my M1 Pro MacBook Pro.

  • @zambotv8150
    @zambotv8150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live in Scotland, the prices in the UK for Mac's is ridiculous

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s a good point, what about PC Parts in general, is there not a similar markup?

    • @zambotv8150
      @zambotv8150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BarryJohns PC's of a similar spec are less 30 to 40% ish.... They're great computers but, they do come at a premium, great video by the way, thanks for uploading

  • @Rhythmattica
    @Rhythmattica 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As much sense as my 2009 4.1 Flashed to 5.1, DP Hex ,12.5 TB off ssd's internally , A XFX 580 Flashed....ect, OpenCore only used to boot into Big Sur.... Waiting on Montery to be sorted, but still back, still and hard as a rock, Mojave.... And thats it.... Still solid az.... But there you go.. A FrankenMac it is......

  • @trixdropd
    @trixdropd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i doubt it

  • @anthemsjam
    @anthemsjam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woah Barry how did I miss this. It’s definitely worth it if you can’t afford plugins barry. You just need a connection to take care of it
    I agree for a fully legit musician thr sander usb no lol

  • @mikanikolic1976
    @mikanikolic1976 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started making hackintosh 15 years ago. Hazard, ideneb, kalyway..Snow leopard, lion ... with every technique that existed. I did get a stable machine but get bored quickly when you see how limited you are in your work. And people spend hours and days doing something they can only look at for a while!

  • @brandonwilliams966
    @brandonwilliams966 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1st!! Let's get to it!! 💫

  • @f1livenews2023
    @f1livenews2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    With the right twiks I will still using my hackintosh cause it works and it works better than the real one

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Give Apple Silicon a try, I think you’ll be surprised….

    • @f1livenews2023
      @f1livenews2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BarryJohns naa

    • @f1livenews2023
      @f1livenews2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BarryJohns too but too expensive for the configuration I got. But what matters is the OS X that runs on it

  • @jonisin5498
    @jonisin5498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cant upgrade RAM and SSD, are unacceptable for me, so Hackintosh is the Way.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      RAM plays a small role in DAW work, it frankly does not take much. External SSD’s are crazy fast, zero need for internal drives.

  • @huohsien
    @huohsien 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about gaming and VR? Apple was completely out off the VR world after around 2017. Apple broke up with Nvidia and with m1 , probably AMD discrete gpu too. My old way was using Intel based mac (iMac, iMac Pro, MBP) and Bootcamping...
    This month iMac Intel based was discontinued after Apple released Mac Studio.
    This news shocks me. I have only 2013 late MBP (with all upgraded options) at hand. After my mind struggling for a couple of weeks, I thought mmm... maybe Hackintosh is my way! That is why I started googling and eventually saw this video.
    For my situation and my need, so you still think Hackintosh is not the way? I should buy a pic snd a Mac with M1?
    Also I am becoming a VR developer so It is essential to have Intel CPU! So far no way around! Thank you for your video. And if you can have some advices for me that would be the best

  • @reread2549
    @reread2549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would be 100% on the Macintosh ecosystem, but there are two pieces of software that I cannot live without so I also keep a PC As well as an IMAC with SSD. I like walking into my studio And not have to troubleshoot anything. I will make the change to the Apple Silicon once all of my software packages are on board. The only way I would ever consider running a Hackin Tosh Is with a level one hypervisor like Proxmox, but I do agree pricewise to performance even the basic M1 it’s an amazing CPU as long as you bundle enough ram with it. Thank you for the video

  • @estevaocma
    @estevaocma 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It does If you live in Brazil

  • @charleskrueger5523
    @charleskrueger5523 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alder Lake hackintosh is now a thing. Better value than Apple Si, for the same reasons you mentioned.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      See the challenge with that thought process, it’s at space upon today, come march, things are gonna be changing dramatically. That’s when chips for the desktop are gonna come out, that will absolutely blow the Alder Lake CPU away.

    • @charleskrueger5523
      @charleskrueger5523 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BarryJohns But at what price? Probably very high. So I still think an Alder Lake hackintosh will be the value bet.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@charleskrueger5523 well, I can tell you that the M1 MacBook Air destroyed my 12 core MacPro, and I already have several videos demonstrating off the charts power of the M1 Pro MacBook Pro. In March they are adding the M1 Pro and Max to the Max Mini calling it a MacMini Pro that will likely sell for around 1300.

  • @JoTokutora
    @JoTokutora 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol at this video, and no. While technically true to plenty of what it is stated. Wit a proper 12700k, fast Gen 4 drives, and a good RAdeon, I own a 6900xt,it will smoke the m1 max. There may be a few things where the max will still be a little faster especially when reliant of the new encoders. The case stated on this video was true early 2021, not now. Even Tiger Lake chips already where surpassing the 10 core M1 Chip. The main component that can be an issue on a hackintosh will be the Graphics card. But if you already own a Vega56-64, 5700xt etc... it will still outperform a lot of the M1s.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      First of all no it can’t, it will just barely beat it in most benchmarks, barely, there’s a ton of that already out there.
      Also keep in mind today, the M1 is a Mobil chip for the most part. What they are about ready to unveil in the next few months it’s gonna be a whole new level.
      Also you will invest triple the price in that computer by going that route, and you still have all the problems that a hackintosh comes with. Don’t forget I’ve built them, I know how big of a pain in the butt they are.
      I’d love how you came to the conclusion that yours would smoke an M1 Max?
      I’m not being sarcastic or argumentative, I’m just very curious more than anything else.
      Guess what I can tell you as a fact, a base M1 was 16 GB of ram and one terabyte SSD, is more than enough computer for the vast majority of people, at less than $1200.
      The CPUs you mention alone, or six or $700 by themselves.
      Bottom line, when I can run over 1000 tracks, with plug-ins on them all at a buffer of 32 and be able to track it anytime I want, there’s no need for or advantage of a Hackintosh anymore.
      Super fast drives hzve become inexpensive these days, so there’s a zero advantage to having internal storage locations. RAM quite frankly just doesn’t matter that much in digital audio, so get 32 GB and you’re set for life on an M1 processor, as ram doesn’t work the way it does on an Intel machine.
      It’s finally start with one terabyte system drive. And you’ll have a screaming recording computer, that will enable you to record any and everything you want with no latency, and last you for years and years and years.

  • @MazeterMusic
    @MazeterMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If only a faster and more recent computer would by itself result in better music…
    A hackintosh build today will most likely have the same (parts wise even longer) life span compared to an M1(…) simply because Apple will drop support on these early products in about 4 OS releases also, in approx. 4 years.
    Sure the M1 range is a wonderful revolution. But as long as Rosetta is needed to run the majority of our software and plug-ins, considering Apple will at some point drop Rosetta, nothing is set in stone either way.
    Until then I’ll happily will be running my good old trusted and fully maxed out cMP 5,1 with two 3,46 GHz processors, 96 GB ram, a metal capable (good enough for a music studio) video card and a 8TB Highpoint PCI-e NVME SSD raid. Why? Because an old slower computer doesn’t result in worse music either ✌️😉
    And I also own/run a Hackintosh because I can. Happy though I run it next to my cMP and not instead of.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nico, I'm sorry, your reply is full of so much misinformation. Apple provides support for a very, very long time for their products. I currently have a 10 year old iMac at home that is on Monterey. Apple computers also last longer than any other computer I've ever seen or experienced. I have never had a single Mac go down on me in over 20 years. My last Mac that was used up until 11 months ago, was a 2009, and it screamed!
      That 2009 was a MacPro 5.1, 12 Core, with 56gb RAM and the base M1 MacBook Air; base entry level laptop for $1200 aboslutly (DESTROYED) it, I mean wiped the floor with it. I hope that answers your question regarding your MacPro.
      The computer has absolutely nothing to do with the sound of music, it writes 1's and 0's, that's it. It can help efficiently and reliably write those 1's and 0's, but also, nothing what so ever to do with the sound and certainly not the quality of the recorded music.
      Rosetta will be non existent within a year, the exact same thing happened in 2006 in the transition from IBM to Intel, I lived through that too. Also, you can always take the same approach that Windows users do, don't upgrade OS's when they come out, rarely do they ever make a difference with DAW's, usually they are other features. Also, a Mackintosh can be a nightmare with OSX updates, let alone new versions of OSX.

    • @MazeterMusic
      @MazeterMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BarryJohns however much I enjoy your channel and opinion, we’ll have to agree to disagree 😉 It all depends on a user’s business case, fast doesn’t necessarily equal better.
      OS wise yes you are right. And let me say I would not be caught dead with a Windows machine as I depend for a living on what I use.
      but if Rosetta is out of the picture, you can only install native M apps and plug-ins, that’s the point. Of course software companies will catch up. Apple silicon is without a doubt the most innovative product to come out in at least 15 years.
      Personally I also have a M1 MBP and yes I love it for many things. Yep, it does give the good old cMP good competition. But it’s not the killer yet, memory wise, storage wise, expansion wise.
      So I have a mixed environment of Apple tech spanning 12 years plus a blazing fast hackintosh. Set for many years. Personal opinion based on my business case. cMP runs all 32 bit old stuff I want to hang onto, the 18 core Hackintosh everything else at a fraction of the cost of the MP 7,1. No issues whatsoever,
      I’ll probably jump ship in three or so years to a then M series or whatever is then available.
      Until then please grant me my misconceptions 😉 peace ✌️

  • @austinnichols7939
    @austinnichols7939 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    are people still making those!!?? geezzz smh. I agree just go M1.

  • @JesusArmasOficial
    @JesusArmasOficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This question came to my head when Apple announced the Silicon transition.
    And to be quite honest, it felt like a hit right in the piracy.
    Can we consider the piracy? That’s something that’s up to each one of us either way.
    Something that I also thought of was OS compatibility for the Hackintosh with Monterey at least.
    I think it’s going to be harder to get them to work though there are some smart engineers out there doing stuff.
    The future will tell either way.
    As usual, a great video Barry!

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great points!

    • @musicalimarc
      @musicalimarc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In terms of potential piracy, if you own an actual Mac, you’re entitled to the latest system OS it can handle. To my way of thinking, if you are making a hackintosh just for personal use and not building and selling hackintoshed machines, there shouldn’t be a problem. However, that means no official support for any Mac related software or hardware should be expected.

  • @alfredbaxter1061
    @alfredbaxter1061 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apple I like but they way to much money I rather go with a built pc but i do have a iPhone I like that

  • @TallesAiran
    @TallesAiran 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you lives in Agood country is better for you one real Macintosh

  • @shadyonej
    @shadyonej 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So expensive n used lot of the half priced hardware 😬 it's ridiculous jus because the Mac name ....eff that noise

  • @Nigel1969
    @Nigel1969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    LMAO

  • @mrflynn01
    @mrflynn01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The hackintosh Era is dead, ppl need to get a nice used Mac and keep it moving!!!

  • @4MyThoughts
    @4MyThoughts 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your information appears to be very useful, but... Sorry, I find your way of talking hard to listen to. Maybe because I'm not from the US.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s alright, have a great day!

  • @daustin777
    @daustin777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even if the M1 chip didn't exist, my opinion is that a Hackintosh doesn't give you an advantage. During the era of Windows XP, Windows 7 maybe it was better to go macOS but Windows 10 is so much better than previous OS (XP, 7, 8) that a Hackintosh doesn't make sense. Once all the software starts to be able to run native on the M1 series, it still doesn't make sense, just buy the Mac. If you want to have fun with a project, build a Hackintosh, but don't do it and expect an advantage over buying a Mac.

    • @daustin777
      @daustin777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another problem is the mindset of updates. You should treat your "Project Studio" computer as an appliance. Don't update the OS, DAW or other software immediately after it is released. Wait until it is known reliable without problems and then only consider updating. Apple will not care that its latest update broke your drivers or rendered your older plugins useless. They care less about backwards compatibility than Microsoft. Don't feel obligated to apply every update.

    • @daustin777
      @daustin777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, the future of Hackintosh is dead. As everything becomes M1 based, Apple will no longer support Intel based chips.