I honestly respect her, from the start the odds were against her. She was asked, as a model, to come and speak about how being pretty is more important than being witty to a room full of students who attend one of the most prestigious educational facilities in the world. She's not dumb and I'm sure she knew she was going have the room against her before she even walked in. The fact she even came to the debate is very admirable.
That rowdy, slightly angry heckler was really rude doing that and it was not nice, almost rude to throw Amy of like that,regardless if it's hard to take her seriously cos she's model, it's quite admirable she got up and did that as she was nervous and it's not easy for everyone to public speak.
What was that fat bitch carrying on about, anyway? (I mean I got the first one, that she she doesn't wear makeup - congrats on being lazy and letting yourself go and being proud of it - but what was the rest of it?)
She's gorgeous and has some really good points. I think people don't want to take really pretty girls seriously because they don't want to believe they got the looks AND intelligence.
I don't get why everyone's so hard on her. She's an intelligent woman regardless of what she looks like. She was really nervous but her speech was great. I'm 5 years younger than her, I have perfect grades and would never be able to deliver a speech like her. I love how she spoke about choosing to not go to university - surprisingly, I think that's one of the bravest decisions ever, personally I would never take that risk. She made a point!
Not going to uni is a "risk"? What on Earth are you talking about? It's more of a risk GOING to university these days and getting a useless degree, all while missing the chance to actually build some useful real world skills and make something of yourself independently. Uni is a waste of time unless you are studying law or medicine (which is necessary).
NE NE You find out what opportunities your connections have, you talk to people, you find out what you're good at and hone your skills. You become better by adapting to the world you live in and seeing where you fit into that. Going to university these days is the antithesis of all of that. It's basically: "Here is what you are supposed to know, learn it or you are intellectually worthless. Any other points of view on the subject are invalid, so don't bother trying to think for yourself." And then when you leave your little "safe space", the world chews you up and spits you out, because you weren't prepped for the difficulties that come with society and expectations. Students are brainwashed into thinking unversity is a necessity, because it's a method of control. The government wants to gather large groups of people together and push certain ideologies and get them to conform. That's why certain aspects of the left push government-sponsored further education. University is no longer a true liberal utopia of free-flowing ideas and progress. It's a marxist dystopia producing the next generation of welfare recipients and regressive thugs. The last thing society needs to see right now is more sociology majors leaving university and blaming white men for their failure to make the right choices and develop practical skills.
I've wanted to be a doctor since I was 7 years old. I need a degree for that, a degree that will form my future. I'm not being "brainwashed" by anyone into doing anything. I'm 17 and already being guided to "think for myself" by my high school.
NE NE You still have lots to learn, trust me. You will see things completely differently when you get older..... And if you want to be a doctor, you don't have any choice but to go to uni anyway, so obviously that's completely different. Medicine is based on fact, so ideology and intellectual debate doesn't come into it. You need to know exactly what you are doing in that area when you get hired so you don't ruin someone's life. Medicine and law are a rare breed of degree that you actually need to get a job in that area. Most you don't. Because in most professions you are not responsible for altering the course of someone's life.
jeez she has a tough audience! they just wrote her off from the start, I get what she's saying completely it's just harder for her to do a speech in front of all these academics that are well used to it, I think she did amazing and spoke the truth that too many won't admit.looks do matter to some degree and we all know it.
It takes a lot of courage to get up there and speak in front of intellectuals, which many (introverted individuals) struggle to do. As an introverted intellectual individual myself, I appreciate her opinion.
It's as though the intelligent students of Oxford all laugh at the pretty girl. They group together to try and put her down, as she said she thinks the joke is on her. They all do what they say is done to them, they group together because they are jealous
Sophie Comer I felt that Immediately they just refuse to laugh even at parts that are funny, they just wrote her off from the start, such intelligent Ppl yet so ignorant and very rude.
loads of people are criticising her speech but I bet if they were to speak in front of that many people they wouldn't even have the nerve to do it! Jesus christ stop judging her and start listening to the intelligent things she has to say!!
She’s correct and intelligent but she needs to get a clearer point of what she’s arguing because she’s not arguing to the best of her abilities because she’s not completely sure of her line of argument. It’s a shame because she’s right
I thought Amy did a good job of presenting herself with dignity and compassion towards others. I don't mean that she looks down on those that are "less attractive." She revealed things that left her vulnerable and could see the humanity in things. Her position in this situation must have been a difficult one.
good point here, confidence is confidence, doesnt matter what size shoes you have or what personality you have, there a certain walk and talk that will boost your confidence, and you will feel and look good in such a different way than before, intelligence is attractive as well as courageous :) im definitely a believer of confidence
I rather have people like and respect me for my wit rather than for my face. Beauty is so superficial and only skin deep. Its like receiving a gift beautifully wrapped up but with really useless present inside. Besides, think of all the inventions and discoveries made throughout the history, they are the product of great minds, not beauty.
I think she did very well. She was better than Ollie Locke & the lady in red. The only cringe moment for me was the misuse of 'commemorate'. She is obviously very intelligent & handled the heckler with aplomb. All in all, she was engaging and presented a good argument. Nevertheless, the cringe moment was VERY cringey. Although intelligent, she is clearly not well-educated, & would have benefitted greatly from a few more years of full-time education. Also, a good education would have benefitted her for the rest of her life, whereas relying on her beauty will be viable for maybe a decade.
She can work on getting witty when her looks fade. Seriously though, it's a dangerous message to send to people, given that we spend well over 50% of our lives being "old" and un-pretty.
the fact that people instantaneously judge her by her looks or may not take her seriously or simply adhere to the stereotype that such gorgeous, despite her posing coherent arguments (while getting thrown off a few times), is proof enough how crucial looks are, simply because people won't take her seriously
I agree to a certain extent but she is on the privileged side of being judged by her looks. Imagine a hideous fat ugly person trying to deliver the same speech. They wouldn't have made it out alive. She can live a rich life because of her natural beauty, regardless of upbringing or intelligence. Beauty makes money.
The answer clearly is BOTH - but if push comes to shove witty wins. At the end of the day would you rather spend a day with Kelly Brook or Dawn French (who is beautiful too by the way!) - you would pick Dawn who actually HAS personality!! You can be stunning but if you have no personality no one is going to want to spend time with you / give you a job etc.
The joke is definitely not on you. Whatever someones opinion or understanding of someone else's world view, you should have been listened to without interruption, and questions and comments left until the end. What's the point of inviting someone to speak if you are going to heckle them. The joke is almost certainly on rude arrogant oxford students who lack the skills and decorum to behave appropriately in social settings. One can only assume it is owing to an improper upbringing. Props to you for standing up and speaking your experience. No one has the monopoly on the truth. Generous listening requires courage and empathy. Not sure if they include that on the Oxford syllabus, would need to check.
Proverb:5:1: My son, attend unto my wisdom, and bow thine ear to my understanding: Proverb:5:2: That thou mayest regard discretion, and that thy lips may keep knowledge. Proverb:5:3: For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil: Proverb:5:4: But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a twoedged sword. Proverb:5:5: Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.
She said she was told that it was "black tie" and that she should wear a "cocktail dress" but those are two different things. If it was cocktail, she's nailed it. But everyone else is in black tie/evening wear. So...
Proverb:5:1: My son, attend unto my wisdom, and bow thine ear to my understanding: Proverb:5:2: That thou mayest regard discretion, and that thy lips may keep knowledge. Proverb:5:3: For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil: Proverb:5:4: But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a twoedged sword. Proverb:5:5: Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.
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I honestly respect her, from the start the odds were against her. She was asked, as a model, to come and speak about how being pretty is more important than being witty to a room full of students who attend one of the most prestigious educational facilities in the world. She's not dumb and I'm sure she knew she was going have the room against her before she even walked in. The fact she even came to the debate is very admirable.
That rowdy, slightly angry heckler was really rude doing that and it was not nice, almost rude to throw Amy of like that,regardless if it's hard to take her seriously cos she's model, it's quite admirable she got up and did that as she was nervous and it's not easy for everyone to public speak.
What was that fat bitch carrying on about, anyway? (I mean I got the first one, that she she doesn't wear makeup - congrats on being lazy and letting yourself go and being proud of it - but what was the rest of it?)
Ruple Thaker I completely agree with you, it was very rude.
TIME STAMP?
she seemed charming and pretty down to earth to me... her public speaking skills might not have been top notch but I think she made some good points
She's gorgeous and has some really good points. I think people don't want to take really pretty girls seriously because they don't want to believe they got the looks AND intelligence.
I don't get why everyone's so hard on her.
She's an intelligent woman regardless of what she looks like. She was really nervous but her speech was great. I'm 5 years younger than her, I have perfect grades and would never be able to deliver a speech like her. I love how she spoke about choosing to not go to university - surprisingly, I think that's one of the bravest decisions ever, personally I would never take that risk. She made a point!
Not going to uni is a "risk"? What on Earth are you talking about? It's more of a risk GOING to university these days and getting a useless degree, all while missing the chance to actually build some useful real world skills and make something of yourself independently. Uni is a waste of time unless you are studying law or medicine (which is necessary).
And where will you build a future without any sort of degree? I'm not saying it's everything, but it's a useful starting point.
NE NE You find out what opportunities your connections have, you talk to people, you find out what you're good at and hone your skills. You become better by adapting to the world you live in and seeing where you fit into that. Going to university these days is the antithesis of all of that. It's basically: "Here is what you are supposed to know, learn it or you are intellectually worthless. Any other points of view on the subject are invalid, so don't bother trying to think for yourself." And then when you leave your little "safe space", the world chews you up and spits you out, because you weren't prepped for the difficulties that come with society and expectations.
Students are brainwashed into thinking unversity is a necessity, because it's a method of control. The government wants to gather large groups of people together and push certain ideologies and get them to conform. That's why certain aspects of the left push government-sponsored further education.
University is no longer a true liberal utopia of free-flowing ideas and progress. It's a marxist dystopia producing the next generation of welfare recipients and regressive thugs. The last thing society needs to see right now is more sociology majors leaving university and blaming white men for their failure to make the right choices and develop practical skills.
I've wanted to be a doctor since I was 7 years old. I need a degree for that, a degree that will form my future. I'm not being "brainwashed" by anyone into doing anything. I'm 17 and already being guided to "think for myself" by my high school.
NE NE You still have lots to learn, trust me. You will see things completely differently when you get older.....
And if you want to be a doctor, you don't have any choice but to go to uni anyway, so obviously that's completely different. Medicine is based on fact, so ideology and intellectual debate doesn't come into it. You need to know exactly what you are doing in that area when you get hired so you don't ruin someone's life. Medicine and law are a rare breed of degree that you actually need to get a job in that area. Most you don't. Because in most professions you are not responsible for altering the course of someone's life.
jeez she has a tough audience! they just wrote her off from the start, I get what she's saying completely it's just harder for her to do a speech in front of all these academics that are well used to it, I think she did amazing and spoke the truth that too many won't admit.looks do matter to some degree and we all know it.
It takes a lot of courage to get up there and speak in front of intellectuals, which many (introverted individuals) struggle to do. As an introverted intellectual individual myself, I appreciate her opinion.
seemed a bit nervous but she got her point across about how despite your intelligence people will still judge you on how you appear.
She's pretty but her speech made me realise witty is way more important. She can do better than that.
she said that herself at the beginning..
She is definitely nervous, do you hear her nervous laughs? She is at Oxford.
Ha-ha! Witty comment!
Just nervous.
She seems lovely and she's very beautiful, very intelligent as well.
So cringe when the woman interrupts
It's as though the intelligent students of Oxford all laugh at the pretty girl. They group together to try and put her down, as she said she thinks the joke is on her. They all do what they say is done to them, they group together because they are jealous
Sophie Comer I felt that Immediately they just refuse to laugh even at parts that are funny, they just wrote her off from the start, such intelligent Ppl yet so ignorant and very rude.
They have some kind of a superiority complex
@@krizzy__ Good point actually, noticed pauses but should have came to mind 'where is the laughs?'
In the debate between Amy and the heckler, Amy's intelligence and wittiness definitely won that contest.
loads of people are criticising her speech but I bet if they were to speak in front of that many people they wouldn't even have the nerve to do it! Jesus christ stop judging her and start listening to the intelligent things she has to say!!
I really respect her for this! Beauty, brains and charisma! All those insulting her are just jealous and insecure with themselves.
"I come over and hug you when I am done"
Seems to me like she has witty down as well.
Love her voice
Beauty with brains
She’s correct and intelligent but she needs to get a clearer point of what she’s arguing because she’s not arguing to the best of her abilities because she’s not completely sure of her line of argument. It’s a shame because she’s right
It felt so awkward watching this one..
"I respect that" *giggles 4:00
Oxymoron
Witty
This debate was amazing. Both the parties spoke SO SO well.
I thought Amy did a good job of presenting herself with dignity and compassion towards others. I don't mean that she looks down on those that are "less attractive." She revealed things that left her vulnerable and could see the humanity in things. Her position in this situation must have been a difficult one.
good point here, confidence is confidence, doesnt matter what size shoes you have or what personality you have, there a certain walk and talk that will boost your confidence, and you will feel and look good in such a different way than before, intelligence is attractive as well as courageous :) im definitely a believer of confidence
Beauty gets alot of attention but useful intelligence keeps it for the long term. If you got both congratulations you won life's lottery.
She'd be beautiful , if she had a script written for her and someone directed her. Ah, how beautiful she would be then.
I rather have people like and respect me for my wit rather than for my face. Beauty is so superficial and only skin deep. Its like receiving a gift beautifully wrapped up but with really useless present inside. Besides, think of all the inventions and discoveries made throughout the history, they are the product of great minds, not beauty.
I stopped watching at 3:39: "I commemorate you!" Oy, that's just sad and awkward.
I know, I was shouting at the screen: "Commend! It's bloody COMMEND you poor fool!"
So basically this is a Tedx version of Oxford.
Plot: Be confident, be who you are
I think she did very well. She was better than Ollie Locke & the lady in red. The only cringe moment for me was the misuse of 'commemorate'. She is obviously very intelligent & handled the heckler with aplomb. All in all, she was engaging and presented a good argument.
Nevertheless, the cringe moment was VERY cringey. Although intelligent, she is clearly not well-educated, & would have benefitted greatly from a few more years of full-time education. Also, a good education would have benefitted her for the rest of her life, whereas relying on her beauty will be viable for maybe a decade.
she repeats all the stuff in this as she does in her interview with itv
Work hard have integrity and support yourself good luck to the girl happiness is treasure and confidence comes with honesty. Bless you.
She can work on getting witty when her looks fade. Seriously though, it's a dangerous message to send to people, given that we spend well over 50% of our lives being "old" and un-pretty.
I could have listened to her all night.
Is not the fact that we're choosing to settle the question via debate rather than pose-down in itself quite telling?
There's always one party pooping weirdo who just doesn't know when to stop: 3:35 .
She's amazing !
When the cringe is just too strong!
Fiery Biscuits do I sense an ugly person seething with jealousy?
Oh dear. I hope it got better after the fourth minute, I couldn't bear to watch. :(
Stopped watching after the third minute.
+Mridul Saraswat 1:30 I'd had enough
What a great speaker and lovely person well done
"I commemorate you!". I think she means "commend", lol!
I mean, it still makes sense.
6:11 - He's thinking 'One for the wank bank'.
i laughed so much at this comment
I think Ms Willerton is pretty witty.
She is real and lives in a real world.
the fact that people instantaneously judge her by her looks or may not take her seriously or simply adhere to the stereotype that such gorgeous, despite her posing coherent arguments (while getting thrown off a few times), is proof enough how crucial looks are, simply because people won't take her seriously
I agree to a certain extent but she is on the privileged side of being judged by her looks. Imagine a hideous fat ugly person trying to deliver the same speech. They wouldn't have made it out alive. She can live a rich life because of her natural beauty, regardless of upbringing or intelligence. Beauty makes money.
good speaker and beauty of delivering the words....
Good speech
The blond girl at 4:26 💀
brains and beauty, powerful combination, trust me to click on this
This debate has little point or depth. Sorry :S.
"I respect that" and laughs lol!
I commend her for being smart and beautiful.
well she wasnt made Miss GB for her intelligence or wit. Her entire brand is based on her face and her body.
she said same stuff on morning... she is mugging up her speech...
She's my role model
She makes good points.
The audience were generally bored.
The answer clearly is BOTH - but if push comes to shove witty wins. At the end of the day would you rather spend a day with Kelly Brook or Dawn French (who is beautiful too by the way!) - you would pick Dawn who actually HAS personality!! You can be stunning but if you have no personality no one is going to want to spend time with you / give you a job etc.
+Georgina Lewis give me kelly brook any day!!
Most goodlooking girls have personality. Its the ugly ones that lack confidence and potential
She's a British version of Jennifer Lawrence, as in adorkable.
What is brave about not wearing lipstick ...
what's the chair person doing. he should control the audience. what's up with the women heckler. have some respect !
Some audiences looked at her like she was from the other planets.
The racism that they've been quietly, btw Beauty and The Genius!
There were so many sour people in the audience I think I could taste vinegar through my eyes and ears....
The joke is definitely not on you. Whatever someones opinion or understanding of someone else's world view, you should have been listened to without interruption, and questions and comments left until the end. What's the point of inviting someone to speak if you are going to heckle them. The joke is almost certainly on rude arrogant oxford students who lack the skills and decorum to behave appropriately in social settings. One can only assume it is owing to an improper upbringing. Props to you for standing up and speaking your experience. No one has the monopoly on the truth. Generous listening requires courage and empathy. Not sure if they include that on the Oxford syllabus, would need to check.
Proverb:5:1: My son, attend unto my wisdom, and bow thine ear to my understanding:
Proverb:5:2: That thou mayest regard discretion, and that thy lips may keep knowledge.
Proverb:5:3: For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:
Proverb:5:4: But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a twoedged sword.
Proverb:5:5: Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.
Beauty and smart including her heart...🌐🇬🇧🌱👸💖
She is as silly as she is beautiful! It's a debate about beauty versus intelligence, not modelling versus education.
I think the topic of this debate does exactly that (conflates academic pursuit/achievement with intelligence).
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Inner confidence is given by looks?
Yes, if you know you're beautiful you have the confidence.
When you meet someone who's not too attractive with loads of confidence, it's really nice to see, especially when they're young.
so looks give you that inner confidence?
*pre-orders wedding ring*
Would.
The beauty queen's in a wrong dress
She said she was told that it was "black tie" and that she should wear a "cocktail dress" but those are two different things. If it was cocktail, she's nailed it. But everyone else is in black tie/evening wear. So...
I wanna marry you Amy...Will you ?
every time I see these Oxford union things it just reinforces my view that I'm blessed to not be one of these people (not Amy, the audience)
Stop the insanity.
I commemerate you all.
Being totally honest she's manly looking!
She is beautifuly thick ❤️❤️
:D
Proverb:5:1: My son, attend unto my wisdom, and bow thine ear to my understanding:
Proverb:5:2: That thou mayest regard discretion, and that thy lips may keep knowledge.
Proverb:5:3: For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:
Proverb:5:4: But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a twoedged sword.
Proverb:5:5: Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.
Proverb:5:1: My son, attend unto my wisdom, and bow thine ear to my understanding:
Proverb:5:2: That thou mayest regard discretion, and that thy lips may keep knowledge.
Proverb:5:3: For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:
Proverb:5:4: But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a twoedged sword.
Proverb:5:5: Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.