I would say that the Hake shotgun should go maybe one tier up. I have one with elemental and perpetual motion, and on my arc warlock it felt very nice. Plus with accurized and smallbore the range was pretty decent.
It's definitely a top tier pick. I main it. Slideshot and Elemental Capacitor are deadly perk combos. Sleek design. It goes best with Titans for obvious reason. But other class works just as well.
I think Mindbender's deserves to be bumped up to A tier. Fragile focus up time is really good ever since they buffed it, and with TD + FF proceed, stat-wise it easily competes with Found Verdict, its direct competitor being an energy-slot aggressive frame shotgun. Of course, that's assuming you have an adept god roll, which is no longer obtainable whereas you can farm for a god roll timelost Found Verdict. I also think Imperial Decree deserves the S-tier, simply because it has the two best shotgun perks in the game and amazing stats thanks to its already decent base stats and its crafted bonuses.
Crafted imperical decree has really grown on me and the performance it has when threat detector is active really makes it one of the best shotguns and very consistent. The arc iron banner slug shotgun has also really become a favorite as you can easily get 100 range paired with threat detector or moving target but I think slugs should get a small aim assist buff because sometimes it makes no sense and direct shots either misses or barely does any damage sometimes so I think slugs should get bigger hit box especially considering slugs require much more aiming vs matador n felwintees
@@jonathancotter7429 I've seen several people use it and it's a great shotgun but since I had to start a new account a few months ago I haven't bothered to run deep stome. I've crafted most other raid guns thi
Mostly agree except for a sudden death could be bumped up a teir. Accurized threat/ e cap on arc makes for a shotty at 100 handling at essentially all times. Feels butter smooth and there's no need to run a handling exotic.
I think aggressives are the best personally mainly cause they feel the most consistent and solar hunter dodge giving 60 handling for free makes them all very consistent so you can max range the whole way
Do you think a full choke/accurized surplus vorpal range MW timelost fv would still be usable? ive spent 1100+ spoils and thats the best one ive got :(
Last man standing was my favorite before it got sunset. I got a similar one recently and it’s back to being my main shit. Low handling but as a titan main, I have it out before that stat matters anyways lmao
A sudden death definitely could be an A tier weapon with surplus and elemental capacitor you can really push that range up and still have it be super fast on the draw
i think sudden death deserves higher because you can double dip into handling with threat detector and ele cap and a handling multiplier from threat detector. This means you can go in for ALL range with the barrel, mag, and mw including rifled barrel. Range doesnt matter too much on aggressive frames anyway
@@WHlSKYtxI agree. Got a god roll and this thing wiffs ALL. THE. TIME. really idk what it is but the range is noticable worse then other aggressive frame shotty’s
Prophet of doom is amazing because it’s a precision frame, it’s perks are meh but it’s archetype alone puts it in A cuz it’s more consistent than aggressives
They’re not too far apart, I’ve seen a lot of 7-seraph in tourneys, I’ve never once seen a prophet tho, not saying that’s like concrete for ranking but at the same time if it was good it would be used in tourney for sure
Great vid as always Awake. Not being a pvp sweat, I got some good info from the vid (and heartache realizing I deleted my Fractal….Fractyl……whatever). I’ll definitely give CF a spin next time, and then wonder as always why I can’t get kills with the best “insert meta weapon” in the game currently.
It could probably go up a bit, I wasn’t really feeling it, but maybe if they introduce some new perks to go with opening shot it could probably be pretty solid
@@Awake_wl yeah I’ve got max range with slideways/opening. But I mean a 4/5 precision shotgun will always get destroyed by matador and other better in slot archetypes
If garden weapons are craftable next then prophet will probably become the 2nd pos. If the last wish weapons are anything to go off at least and the fusion from that raid will probably cause a lot of pain across the board
i’d honestly put without remorse in the a-tier above riiswalker. sure more range is nice, but lightweights can only one shot up to 7 meters and that’s with one precision hit pellet. max range isn’t worth sacrificing stability, because contrary to what many believe, shotguns get hit HARD by flinch when you ads. without remorse is a stat monster when fully crafted, WITH max range and max handling. it’s a monster.
So Ikelos SG is that bad? I was farming the exotic mission for red borders. Just feel nostalgic for this shotty. And is this from PvP POV? any application in PvE?
How you feel about crafted wastelander after the range change ? My matador feels inconsistent now ngl, was thinking of crafting a wastelander for the kinetic since I don’t have a godroll frac. Just 3/5
Yea i got the 5/5 matador and its pretty disgusting sitting at 95 range. I can swipe between rifled barrel or smallbore. with threat detector + opening shot + accurized + range masterwork.
I think Compass Rose has a slept on combo, Quickdraw Trench Barrel. Trench Barrel is like Swashbuckler but better in nearly every way. Swash needs a melee final blow, Trench needs a melee hit. Swash x5 gives 33% increased damage, Trench gives 50%. Trench also lastst 0.5 sec longer and gives 30 handling after the melee hit as cherry on top for faster ADS and stow speed. I grinded for it but sadly didn’t get the roll.
This season gave me a pretty wild and unexpected shotgun: Deadpan Delivery, with Slickdraw/Trench and max range on all the other perks (including Rifled Barrel since Slickdraw caps your handling anyway). 49 range at all times (which is pretty unremarkable for the frame), the same handling bump as Quickdraw but always-on with a downside that is irrelevant, and with Trench's damage buff enabling you to get followup kills in scramble situations. I don't think it's better than some of the top-tier options here (OS too good), but I ended up liking it quite a bit.
I would put Duality number 2 if it were on the list. I know it’s a slug as well as pellet, but I just use it basically hip-fire only like a Halo shotty and having that range and tight spread from the hip saves your ass in a lot of situations.
I agree that it's good in that capacity, but IMO it's the ability to essentially have slug AND pellet functionality in the same gun that puts it over stuff like Retold or Matador, and would honestly even put it over CF for me if not for CF having situational utility that is hard to come by on other shotguns like getting collateral kills.
Ragnhild is criminally underrated. A perp motion plus elementa, capacitor roll is very spicy, makes for some great handling and personally I like the ads view of ragnhild as it's boxy amd easy to see unlike a lot of aggressives
have you tried sudden death with slideshot and elemental capacitor on an arc class? pretty much max handling on an aggressive, I’d say strong B to light A
Yeah it’s pretty good, I didn’t like it too much and it kinda forces you into arc but yeah I’d say b tier is fair and if you just like it a lot A is fine too. A lot of the shotguns are very similar so I can’t really argue to bump them up or down , this is mostly based off of my experience and what I’ve seen in tourneys/what the I see in high level lobbies
I have a 3/5 retold tale that hits more consistent than my 5/5 matador and I'm on console. I have smallbore, light mag, quickdraw, snapshot, and a handling mw on my retold tale compared to corkscrew, accurized, threat detector, opening shot, and a handling mw on my matador
As of this comment, I have 2,703 crucible kills on retold tale. I have the 6/5 god roll IMO with full choke, barrel shroud, accurized, quick draw snapshot handling MW. It’s so snappy it’s unreal. Mind you I had it sitting in my vault for over a year before using it.
Nice roll! I'm also an avid retold user, over 3k kills on it since precisions got buffed. Mine has smallbore, accurised, QD, snapshot and a range mw. Sometimes I'm still surprised how far it kills and I can't count the number of times quickdraw saved me
Can I sell y'all on QD/12P? It's a nice bubble-or-well clutch tool. I've got full choke and assault mag and handling MW, but tbh I'd like a bit more range on the roll since QD gives me the thing I actually care about from handling
I feel like Prophet should be brought up to B tier and Compass brought down to B aswell. Both Precisions that don't have anything other than their frame going for them
Hand in Hand could go low b tier but seeing as it’s a world drop, and having to be locked in arc to make it effective I can see the reason for it being high C. Also what is the shader on the Palindrome in the video?
Keep the retold tail juice to yourself lol. It has some perks on there that make it really good for closing the distance as well as getting kills after with your shotgun or without.
@@Awake_wl I just feel it's a little redundant to not even include them but to then also include rapid fires on the list, good video though and I agree with most of your takes lol
It has the same damage as other aggressive frames afaik I think it might be because of the custom pellet spread The range isnt the main strength of cf though, I get noticeably farther 1HK with my 5/5 retold
I have a 5/5 Astral Horizon and it’s still 5 Range and Handling short to the Imperial even after Adapt Range, Astral origin trait is the only plus side but I hardly play Rumble… and that sight is atrocious
Yeah Retold Tale is definitely deserving. Just as good as a Matador, higher aim assist and I use a targeting adjuster just to play into it. Feels really snappy cause of snapshot instead of opening but yeah both amazing just preference.
I recently got a hand in hand to drop with max max range, fragile focus and elemental capacitor. It has 73 range with fragile focus up and 79 handling on an arc subclass. Definitely not dog water, but definitely near impossible to get your hands on. Don’t blame you for tanking it so low
Yeah it can be ok, the tiers aren’t really saying that a gun can’t be used, it’s just compared to the other ones. I also don’t rank elemental cap that high on a tier list because you have to be arc and basing the entire weapon off of that doesn’t work for a tier list in my opinion.
I think personal preference is a big thing in pvp, because for me, matador always whiffs like it’s insane even with the god roll, but retold is so consistent even without OS and felwinters, recently just started using it for fun, but why is it so much better in performance over my 5/5 found verdict adept 🤣
I’m glad I have a god roll found verdict time lost and I got conditional finality on clear #2 contest mode (actual day 1 not the 48 hrs 😂😂 only took us 6 1/2 hrs to finish)
Great list! Conditional for sure doesn't need a nerf, its really only as high up in usage right now as it directly counters anteaus, wells and bubbles! people could use other shotguns if they weren't used by everyone in trials, every game!
Not really, I had it it higher until I used it, also never run into it and definitely never run into it in a tourney setting, w some new perks I could see it being decent tho
After using Imperial and Retold Tale a lot since this video I would personally swap them now. Imperial in S with the right build and Retold A. Both great and I really didn’t like imperial at all for the longest time til I went handling barrel and masterwork and slide shot opening shot. 51 handling 41 range then the 2 range perks basically max the range out, very consistent now.
I would say that the Hake shotgun should go maybe one tier up. I have one with elemental and perpetual motion, and on my arc warlock it felt very nice. Plus with accurized and smallbore the range was pretty decent.
I fully agree with this
I originally had that and sudden death up a tier so I could see that for sure
@@Awake_wl Still I think you had a good tier list. I didnt really think that the retold would be there. Sounds like it is worth the grind.
100% agree
Wastelander is a reference to marathon not halo
I feel like sudden death was a definitely a higher tier shotty with Elemental capacitor before the spread changes
It's definitely a top tier pick. I main it. Slideshot and Elemental Capacitor are deadly perk combos. Sleek design. It goes best with Titans for obvious reason. But other class works just as well.
I think Mindbender's deserves to be bumped up to A tier. Fragile focus up time is really good ever since they buffed it, and with TD + FF proceed, stat-wise it easily competes with Found Verdict, its direct competitor being an energy-slot aggressive frame shotgun. Of course, that's assuming you have an adept god roll, which is no longer obtainable whereas you can farm for a god roll timelost Found Verdict.
I also think Imperial Decree deserves the S-tier, simply because it has the two best shotgun perks in the game and amazing stats thanks to its already decent base stats and its crafted bonuses.
Mindbenders with threat detector plus fragile focus is still a great roll and pretty consistent I also like the look of the shotgun
Crafted imperical decree has really grown on me and the performance it has when threat detector is active really makes it one of the best shotguns and very consistent. The arc iron banner slug shotgun has also really become a favorite as you can easily get 100 range paired with threat detector or moving target but I think slugs should get a small aim assist buff because sometimes it makes no sense and direct shots either misses or barely does any damage sometimes so I think slugs should get bigger hit box especially considering slugs require much more aiming vs matador n felwintees
have you tried a heritage with hipfire grip and offhand strike? it's always a head shot if you above their waist, it's nutty
@@jonathancotter7429 I've seen several people use it and it's a great shotgun but since I had to start a new account a few months ago I haven't bothered to run deep stome. I've crafted most other raid guns thi
Mostly agree except for a sudden death could be bumped up a teir. Accurized threat/ e cap on arc makes for a shotty at 100 handling at essentially all times. Feels butter smooth and there's no need to run a handling exotic.
Prophet of Doom does have Slideways and Opening Shot which is always good even if it's not slideshot. It's bonus handling so that's always good
Always happy to see you upload man keep it up
I have a small bore, steady rounds, quick draw, snap shot, range master work, free hand grip perk on my Retold Tale. It's amazing.
Recently started using Duality. I think it’s one of the most slept on shotguns in the game. People don’t even realize how good it is.
Does anybody have a threat detector quickdraw role on the original mindbender's? Really curious what that would be like.
love these types of videos, really easy to figure out what's good/bad. thank you!
great tier list. Retold is higher than I feel like I'd put it but a lot of really good players like it!
I think aggressives are the best personally mainly cause they feel the most consistent and solar hunter dodge giving 60 handling for free makes them all very consistent so you can max range the whole way
Do you think a full choke/accurized surplus vorpal range MW timelost fv would still be usable? ive spent 1100+ spoils and thats the best one ive got :(
Yeah it’s still good, that’s what I use actually
Sword breaker from the new raid could be another high contender for kinetic lightweights. I have a god roll threat/opening and love it so far.
Last man standing was my favorite before it got sunset. I got a similar one recently and it’s back to being my main shit. Low handling but as a titan main, I have it out before that stat matters anyways lmao
I love the retold tale. Never had another shotgun feel so consistent
Astral can also get elemental capacitor which if used on an arc subclass gives you a lot of handling
Dope video Awake! It’s great to hear from a top player, like yourself, with a tier list.
A sudden death definitely could be an A tier weapon with surplus and elemental capacitor you can really push that range up and still have it be super fast on the draw
i think sudden death deserves higher because you can double dip into handling with threat detector and ele cap and a handling multiplier from threat detector. This means you can go in for ALL range with the barrel, mag, and mw including rifled barrel. Range doesnt matter too much on aggressive frames anyway
It's a cope shotgun
@@WHlSKYtxI agree. Got a god roll and this thing wiffs ALL. THE. TIME. really idk what it is but the range is noticable worse then other aggressive frame shotty’s
true@@WHlSKYtx
Prophet of doom is amazing because it’s a precision frame, it’s perks are meh but it’s archetype alone puts it in A cuz it’s more consistent than aggressives
Most under-rated shotty is duality imo, I barely see anyone use it anymore
Having seraph over prophet of doom which is literally a precision frame with opening shot and insane range is nuts to me
They’re not too far apart, I’ve seen a lot of 7-seraph in tourneys, I’ve never once seen a prophet tho, not saying that’s like concrete for ranking but at the same time if it was good it would be used in tourney for sure
Great vid as always Awake. Not being a pvp sweat, I got some good info from the vid (and heartache realizing I deleted my Fractal….Fractyl……whatever). I’ll definitely give CF a spin next time, and then wonder as always why I can’t get kills with the best “insert meta weapon” in the game currently.
Prophet of doom is a personal favorite of mine but unfortunately overshadowed by matador lol
Same, should be in b Tier 😢
It could probably go up a bit, I wasn’t really feeling it, but maybe if they introduce some new perks to go with opening shot it could probably be pretty solid
@@Awake_wl yeah I’ve got max range with slideways/opening. But I mean a 4/5 precision shotgun will always get destroyed by matador and other better in slot archetypes
It’s one of those shotguns that either works for people or it doesn’t
If garden weapons are craftable next then prophet will probably become the 2nd pos. If the last wish weapons are anything to go off at least and the fusion from that raid will probably cause a lot of pain across the board
i’d honestly put without remorse in the a-tier above riiswalker. sure more range is nice, but lightweights can only one shot up to 7 meters and that’s with one precision hit pellet. max range isn’t worth sacrificing stability, because contrary to what many believe, shotguns get hit HARD by flinch when you ads. without remorse is a stat monster when fully crafted, WITH max range and max handling. it’s a monster.
I think all shotguns only one shot up to 7m. Idk about after this patch cause my matador been feeling whiffy tho
So Ikelos SG is that bad? I was farming the exotic mission for red borders. Just feel nostalgic for this shotty. And is this from PvP POV? any application in PvE?
How you feel about crafted wastelander after the range change ? My matador feels inconsistent now ngl, was thinking of crafting a wastelander for the kinetic since I don’t have a godroll frac. Just 3/5
i havnt really played this game in like 8 months and here i am still learning about destiny 2 shotguns 😂
Before I even watch this, I'm sure it's heat but you're the GOAT bro another banger gg
Yea i got the 5/5 matador and its pretty disgusting sitting at 95 range. I can swipe between rifled barrel or smallbore. with threat detector + opening shot + accurized + range masterwork.
I think Compass Rose has a slept on combo, Quickdraw Trench Barrel.
Trench Barrel is like Swashbuckler but better in nearly every way. Swash needs a melee final blow, Trench needs a melee hit. Swash x5 gives 33% increased damage, Trench gives 50%. Trench also lastst 0.5 sec longer and gives 30 handling after the melee hit as cherry on top for faster ADS and stow speed.
I grinded for it but sadly didn’t get the roll.
This season gave me a pretty wild and unexpected shotgun: Deadpan Delivery, with Slickdraw/Trench and max range on all the other perks (including Rifled Barrel since Slickdraw caps your handling anyway). 49 range at all times (which is pretty unremarkable for the frame), the same handling bump as Quickdraw but always-on with a downside that is irrelevant, and with Trench's damage buff enabling you to get followup kills in scramble situations.
I don't think it's better than some of the top-tier options here (OS too good), but I ended up liking it quite a bit.
I would put Duality number 2 if it were on the list. I know it’s a slug as well as pellet, but I just use it basically hip-fire only like a Halo shotty and having that range and tight spread from the hip saves your ass in a lot of situations.
I agree that it's good in that capacity, but IMO it's the ability to essentially have slug AND pellet functionality in the same gun that puts it over stuff like Retold or Matador, and would honestly even put it over CF for me if not for CF having situational utility that is hard to come by on other shotguns like getting collateral kills.
Very nice video, love the content. Any thoughts on doing a tier list video on 120s next season when igneous hammer come back?
Yes I plan on doing one!
What’s your opinion on pinpoint slug frames like chaperone and gunnora’s axe
Slugs are very good, I think chaperone is still one of the best weapons in the game, just tough right now with all the Antaeus titans
I’d personally put duality right behind conditional and chaperone right behind that
Yeah if I was going to include slugs I’d probably do the same
I’d love to get good with chaperone but I’m ass a that shot i swear Lmao. Even tho I’m good with duality
I’d definitely put Ragnhild and Sudden death higher for elemental capacitor. Still a great video though!
Ragnhild is criminally underrated. A perp motion plus elementa, capacitor roll is very spicy, makes for some great handling and personally I like the ads view of ragnhild as it's boxy amd easy to see unlike a lot of aggressives
have you tried sudden death with slideshot and elemental capacitor on an arc class? pretty much max handling on an aggressive, I’d say strong B to light A
Yeah it’s pretty good, I didn’t like it too much and it kinda forces you into arc but yeah I’d say b tier is fair and if you just like it a lot A is fine too. A lot of the shotguns are very similar so I can’t really argue to bump them up or down , this is mostly based off of my experience and what I’ve seen in tourneys/what the I see in high level lobbies
I have a 3/5 retold tale that hits more consistent than my 5/5 matador and I'm on console. I have smallbore, light mag, quickdraw, snapshot, and a handling mw on my retold tale compared to corkscrew, accurized, threat detector, opening shot, and a handling mw on my matador
Not seeing fourth horseman so I’m assuming s++
What are the best guns to use in the energy slot?
I got a 4/5 roll on my Matador and it's the best shotgun I've used so far. I got Pulse Monitor instead of TD but the perk occasionally comes in clutch
Some of these may have been feeling bad because there was/still is a bug they're looking into about shotgun ads not actually doing anything
As of this comment, I have 2,703 crucible kills on retold tale. I have the 6/5 god roll IMO with full choke, barrel shroud, accurized, quick draw snapshot handling MW. It’s so snappy it’s unreal. Mind you I had it sitting in my vault for over a year before using it.
Nice roll! I'm also an avid retold user, over 3k kills on it since precisions got buffed. Mine has smallbore, accurised, QD, snapshot and a range mw. Sometimes I'm still surprised how far it kills and I can't count the number of times quickdraw saved me
Can I sell y'all on QD/12P? It's a nice bubble-or-well clutch tool. I've got full choke and assault mag and handling MW, but tbh I'd like a bit more range on the roll since QD gives me the thing I actually care about from handling
how are you shooting people once in the body then meleeing them once
only thing i would swap is imperial and found verdict atleast until found verdict becomes craftable
Duality should have been mentioned even if speaking purely about its pellet capabilities
I feel like Prophet should be brought up to B tier and Compass brought down to B aswell. Both Precisions that don't have anything other than their frame going for them
Bro i gotta watch ron vids so i can get that damn gun great vid broo
What would you rank duality because it's like a pellet / slug so what would you rate it for its pellet
If I were to put it on this list I would put it at number 2 overall right behind conditional
wait where are you gonna put lord of wolves?
Hand in Hand could go low b tier but seeing as it’s a world drop, and having to be locked in arc to make it effective I can see the reason for it being high C. Also what is the shader on the Palindrome in the video?
Been a long time since I could agree with everything said in pvp vid good shit.
I feel so bad for lightweights.
They were good, but were only nerfed so that they weren't dominant after the Agressives were nerfed.
Why would you feel bad for pixels on a screen
i just hope they wont nerf the conditional
They nerfed chill clip, so they'll nerf CF too just not yet probably FS season 1.
Keep the retold tail juice to yourself lol. It has some perks on there that make it really good for closing the distance as well as getting kills after with your shotgun or without.
i think the reckless endangerment is pretty good for a lightweight
What about duality ?
Prophet of doom in c tier?
What’re the robes used on your Warlock?
They’re one of the like white common ones, my friends been roasting me but think they’re fire😂
@@Awake_wl nah they🔥
Chaperone? Duality? Or any slug for that matter?
Lol dude I know intros are boring but like 10 secs in I explain that lol
@@Awake_wl I just feel it's a little redundant to not even include them but to then also include rapid fires on the list, good video though and I agree with most of your takes lol
@@Awake_wlI do however respect the choice though lol
Our lord and savior awake has blessed us🙏
I think all shotguns are actually feeling pretty inconsistent and random so I’d rather use lightweight frame for the speed boost and the handling
Agreed retold is simply goated even on mnk
Conditional has such good range because of its high damage. The damage makes up for the range
It has the same damage as other aggressive frames afaik
I think it might be because of the custom pellet spread
The range isnt the main strength of cf though, I get noticeably farther 1HK with my 5/5 retold
@@WinterSon91 Hmm ok. I thought it was like it’s own unique frame tbh like a double barrel so it did more damage
I have a 5/5 Astral Horizon and it’s still 5 Range and Handling short to the Imperial even after Adapt Range, Astral origin trait is the only plus side but I hardly play Rumble… and that sight is atrocious
Yeah it’s really up to preference tbh they’re pretty much the same gun
Yeah Retold Tale is definitely deserving. Just as good as a Matador, higher aim assist and I use a targeting adjuster just to play into it. Feels really snappy cause of snapshot instead of opening but yeah both amazing just preference.
Ragnihild d is God, max handling with enhanced perks
Where is the Heritage?
What handcannon is that in the clips
palindrome
What sense u play on?
Recently changed to 15 .6
why you doing Prophet of doom like that. That gun can literally go to 100 range with opening shot and still have good handling
I recently got a hand in hand to drop with max max range, fragile focus and elemental capacitor. It has 73 range with fragile focus up and 79 handling on an arc subclass. Definitely not dog water, but definitely near impossible to get your hands on. Don’t blame you for tanking it so low
Yeah it can be ok, the tiers aren’t really saying that a gun can’t be used, it’s just compared to the other ones. I also don’t rank elemental cap that high on a tier list because you have to be arc and basing the entire weapon off of that doesn’t work for a tier list in my opinion.
Duality?
duality?
Conditional finality isn't that bad. It's when people combo it with arc/behemoth titan on antaeus that makes me question why I even play PvP
i mean idk why but i like using my crafted ragnhil-D with about 3.5k kills in pvp and about lvl 217
bro the one u said was dogwater was the one i’m using cause i was told it’s op 😭 it’s ikelos shotgun
No definitely don’t use that one lol, the easiest to get would probably be to craft the imperial decree from the helm if you’re able to
@@Awake_wl ok tysm i thought i was having a skill issue but i guess it was the shotgun i was using
I think personal preference is a big thing in pvp, because for me, matador always whiffs like it’s insane even with the god roll, but retold is so consistent even without OS and felwinters, recently just started using it for fun, but why is it so much better in performance over my 5/5 found verdict adept 🤣
I thought I'm the only person that can't handle Matador and feels like it always whiffs!! 😂
Same man my 3/5 retold tale hits more consistent than my 5/5 matador. I vaulted matador for retold this weekend and went flawless with it.
Sens?
prophet of doom needs to be in b but c is sorta fair
Retrofuturist is still a very good shotgun
Rag being so low is kinda criminal
No fourth horseman ranking?
Ohhhhhhhh you right rip😂….it was supposed to be in sort of the low C tier but you’re right I made a mistake in editing my bad lol
Inquisitor is a slug?
Yes it is a slug, pretty good too!
I’m glad I have a god roll found verdict time lost and I got conditional finality on clear #2 contest mode (actual day 1 not the 48 hrs 😂😂 only took us 6 1/2 hrs to finish)
Great list! Conditional for sure doesn't need a nerf, its really only as high up in usage right now as it directly counters anteaus, wells and bubbles! people could use other shotguns if they weren't used by everyone in trials, every game!
Prophet of doom and Rangnhild that low is a sin
Mindbenders and felwinters
Bro put my top 2 shotguns (toil & trouble, last man standing) in c and d tier 😨
Do you play on controller?
He does
What happened to chappy??? Did we just forget about the number 1 midrange sniper rifle?
I mean if you watch 30 sec in you’d know
Where is Duality 😢😢
You sleeping on retrofuturist
Prophet of Doom in C-Tier is wild
Not really, I had it it higher until I used it, also never run into it and definitely never run into it in a tourney setting, w some new perks I could see it being decent tho
Hey, you forgot shaxx's shotty
After using Imperial and Retold Tale a lot since this video I would personally swap them now. Imperial in S with the right build and Retold A. Both great and I really didn’t like imperial at all for the longest time til I went handling barrel and masterwork and slide shot opening shot. 51 handling 41 range then the 2 range perks basically max the range out, very consistent now.
Where duality?
He said he only covering true pellets and duality isn’t really that
You forgot the Amit