RB Leipzig actually stands for Rasenballsport Leipzig because the bundesliga did not allow Red Bull to give the team a corporate name. Red Bull chose the name rasenballsport because they can abbreviate it to RB and people would mistake the name for Red Bull Leipzig instead of its actual name.
Haha looks like that is exactly what i did! Thank you for sharing! I didn't even realize RB wasn't for Red Bull in Leipzig's case! That's a very funny work around!
Rasenballsport is actually meaningless in German. Its roughly translated into English as "Lawn ball sports", they just made it up to get around the rule.
Leipzig isn’t called “Red Bull Leipzig”, they are called “RB Leipzig” because the DFB wouldn’t let them put the corporate name directly into the team’s name….officially the RB stands for Rassen Ballsport - which directly translates to Lawn Ball Game. They really had to twist things around to get the initials RB in there in a semi-legitimate way.
Its not the league which decides where to expand to. It's the local markets which become attractive to the league. New Orleans needs 1) a Billionaire interested in paying $600 million for a team 2) a viable stadium plan 3) a huge marketing budget
As a Quakes fan I'm still mad that the team moved to Houston, made very few changes to the squad, basically only wearing different colors, and then Houston won the MLS title TWO YEARS IN A ROW. So while it was technically Houston that won the titles, it was because of the team that was originally in SJ.
@@JustinLearnsThings the current Quakes owner is horrible. If you follow the Oakland A’s baseball team then that’s all you need to know. Owned by the same guy. I’ve even met the middle man who facilitated the deal between Don Garber/Fisher. Nice guy but he isn’t complaining since he’s sitting as comfortable as the owner at this point.
@@JustinLearnsThings @Omar Juarez That's a bummer and understand of respect, plus hard core fans since day one, especially rich tradition. Great example is Columbus Crew when prior owner threatened to move team to Austin if new stadium wasn't built before Haslens took over in 2019. Of course, die hard fans and city here in Columbus prevented that from happening in moving team as think even current MLS Commissioner Don Garber isn't much fan favorite here in Columbus was probably going to let it go through. However, new stadium was built in downtown area and opened last year. Hence, prior owner now owns Austin and got expansion team out of it. Another example is the Cleveland Browns in the National Football League when prior owner Art Modell moved to Baltimore in 1997 due to dispute with city of Cleveland in new stadiums for football and baseball as Indians got new stadium but be couple more years for the Browns with contract of old Municipal Stadium at time + factors. In 2000, the newly named Baltimore Ravens (new name as uproar by Browns fans kept original name in Cleveland) won the Super Bowl, 4 years after move and hate Baltimore for that as much as Pittsburgh or even more. Even Steelers fans were shocked as that old, traditional rivalry was haulted for a while. Around time of Browns move to Baltimore, think Ohio passed a law (Modell Rule?) where a team name will be kept in state despite owner wanting to move another state or something similar to those lines as I don't know exact detail to be honest. Think in 2004, the Cleveland Browns were reinstated after hiatus. Therefore, from prior statement and due new law, The Columbus Crew stayed. Wish Bay area/San Jose didn't have brief hiatus as Browns did and had same situation like The Crew had in strong support overriding political power, $$, and greed that takes place in society today.
I think it’s odd how the MLS tries to appeal to European soccer fans and American fans, like they have teams that have European names like FC Dallas, but then they go and change their playoff format to copy the NFL’s and get rid of 2-leg matches that are iconic in European tournaments. It will be interesting to see where they go with this because one side of the league is trying to go more European whereas another part is trying to appeal to the American audience
it is what it is, MLS will never be able to please everyone. People who have been following the league for a while know that the league is really starting to make some progress these days and there are exciting days ahead
I don't think they're appealing to American audience at all with the play-off format. It's just an American soccer league formatting itself after other American sports leagues, sort of like how European leagues of American sports (basketball) have pro-reg instead of a closed system; they're keeping the system in which they know and are familiar with. The naming of clubs is what sticks as trying to appeal to European sensibilities.
TBH, a play-off format would make most European countries' national leagues more interesting. In Spain, Italy and most extremely in France and Germany the leagues seem to exist exclusively to supply points to the usuals suspects so they become champions almost each year.
It feels like MLS is having a bit of an identity crisis. I fear that it feels like Brazilian friend who has lived most of her life in Portugal. The Portuguese don't see her as Portuguese enough and see her as Brazilian, while the Brazilians don't see her Brazilian enough and see her as Portuguese. The MLS seem the same, they seem to European to be seen as American, but too Americanise to be popular with Europeans.
I would have loved to see you mention how the Philadelphia Union is the only team that had a supporters club before its existence. The Sons of Ben were created in Philadelphia years before they got a team. It was this supporters club that convinced the MLS to expand to Philly.
I mean technically OCSC, Timbers and other USL promoted teams had supporters before they became MLS teams. Since MLS is a single entity, a team can't exist prior to joining officially.
I remember that first year of the MLS. Went to a number of DC United matches and there's another reason they are United. The area has a long history of soccer. I was playing in the 1970s and there were leagues going back much earlier. The region is often referred to as the DMV, so they wanted to let all three jurisdictions know it was regional club, like New England.
There are actually a lot of clubs overseas with 'SC' rather than 'FC', but usually it refers to 'Sporting Club' or the local translation. See SC Portugal/Sporting CP.
A fun fact about brazilian teams names: The most popular sport here in Brazil at the ending of 19th century and beginning of the 20th century was regatta (boat racing), obviously in coastal cities, mainly in Rio de Janeiro. The most successful Regatta Clubs, or Clubes de Regatas (CR) in portuguese, started to create a Football/Soccer department as the popularity of this "new" sport kept growing. So now 3 of 4 big football/soccer teams from Rio de Janeiro city have "R" in their names, CR Flamengo, CR Vasco da Gama and Botafogo FR (Futebol e Regatas), with Fluminense FC being the exception. Today nobody cares about regatta here in Brazil, but the clubs kept CR on their names to respect the history. To be clear, almost every team is a multi-sports club here in Brazil, so its not that odd to see an volleyball or basketball team with FC on its name, or a CR team being a big football/soccer club, as I explained.
I miss the MLS-specific naming style that used to rule. Names like Mutiny, Crew, Impact, Galaxy, etc., that weren't plurals (Broncos, Panthers, Athletics, etc.) but had their own style.
Olso names of clubs from older league like "LA Aztecs", "New York Cosmos", "Washington Diplomats", "philadelphia atoms" instead of boring "New York City FC", "XYZ City/united/FC".
Nashville SC actually started as Nashville FC (Football Club) in the NPSL in 2013, when we got the promotion to USL we were required to change the name and decided on Nashville SC, there was a pre-existing organization called Nashville FC (an American Football group) requiring the change to avoid any legal issues and we wanted to honor our origins so we just changes the Football to Soccer, we changed the logo as well when we promoted up to USL but kept it similar in shape (a round shield style). When MLS came around the managing group changed the logo entirely but kept the name. A history of 2 names, 3 logos, but always Blue and Gold
By the way, only the US uses SC to abbreviate Soccer Club. There are other teams with SC in their name around the world, which abbreviated to Sports Club
@@jldch26 What do you mean? You mean in North America specifically? Is there no club that provides a different sport than what they are known for in NA? SC "Sports Club" is used by clubs that are not solely there for football/soccer as many clubs were founded back in the day to provide different sports for the people. A typical example would be SC Freiburg in Germany or SK Rapid Wien in Austria ("SK" because "Club" can also be written as "Klub" starting with a K).
@@MrReese all our professional leagues except the few independent ones run on a franchise model. We have sports clubs but there's no professional teams to em. Amateur leagues sure. But I can't think of any sports club providing professional competition in any sport here in the U.S. now the country is huge so I could be wrong.
Colorado Rapids did a nifty trick here. While still referring to a local theme, links to a traditional naming practice in Europe that began with the legendary Austrian team SK Rapid Wien (Rapid București, SK Rapid Lienz, Rápido de Bouzas...)
Interesting to see the cities the MLS chooses to expand to as opposed to how the other major leagues did. Here in Detroit fans are defiant of the MLS- strong turnout, have an amazing culture, fans have a partial ownership in the team, and literally openly curse the MLS and its sellouts. Hope they never lose the club here just to gain a franchise. ❤️
Was a big Impact fan. Went many times to the stadium, bought merch, but the owner decided to destroy what we loved. Now we are supposed to support a blend ski team without colors. NEVER! I couldn't even name you a single new player and have no clue where we finished in the ranking this year. And I won't come back until our club is back or buy the owner cheese and cakes. Such a stupid disrespectful move! You just don't remove the "fleur de lys" in Québec when you build around this symbol for more than 25 years. How to destroy a club 101. Damn i'm pissed!
@@Nebulous-YT It is a league, yes they're isn't relegation. ITs as much a league as the NFL, NBA, MLB, and every sports league in the US. Also, many european hockey leagues don't have relegation, does that make them tournaments. They're are many types of leagues and the American Model is one of them. Many non-american leagues follow this format. You have to qualify for a tournament, like the World Cup, Copa America, and so on. This is a league because the teams are already established. You don't need relegation to make it a league.
@@thedannyboy1221 And its a league where American talent is born and sold of to the European Leagues, Tyler Adams, Red Bull New York. Pepi, eventually Europe. Chris Muller, Orland City FC. Busio, SKC. Tyler Adams, Roma. Our league has lost of young talent but no one cares. Every one ignores that for the 20 or so old players that want cash. Its the same thing for the A-League and Indian Super League, but we get 20x the criticism. I don't get it. MLS is 25 Years old. What as the English Football League like when it was 25 years old, back in 1913/14. Probably not that good with decent-ish players and mediocre attendance. No, I don't think MLS is better than the Top 5 leagues like some idiotic MLS fans. The league is top 20 in the world and thats okay. The league does have old players that are just their for a quick buck. But thats less than 1% of the league. Europeans just focus on that just to make fun of MLS. So what, our league is consistently giving you guys talent and world betters and you guys call us a RETIREMENT league for like 30 players. Its only a few clubs that are like that, LA Galaxy, New York/New Jersey Re Bulls, Orlando City FC, Inter Miami CF, and to a certain extent NYCFC. So 5 teams out of almost 30. The treatment of some of these academy teams like NY Red Bulls and FC Dallas, Sporting Kansas and other USL teams are just idiotic. Yes, we do have old players, but our league is so much more than that. Passionate fan bases that beat lots of European ones, players getting drafted late and becoming stars in this league, young stars hoping to get a move an ambitious project in Europe. The league has so much history with franchises dating back to the 70's. Traditions lasting through generation. All of that is avoided because of 30 old guys. You haven't even watched MLS. You probably cant name 10 MLS right now. All you know is that they're are old players and that it's a retirement league. If you do a 5 minute google search, you'll see that MLS is much more than a league that old ageing Europeans come to die. Also, many of the "Europeans that cant play in the top leagues" ended up doing so. Beckham went to PSG, Zlatan to AC Milan, and Lampard to Man City. So please, don't just go around criticising MLS fans for asking for respect when we don't even get that respect on our own nation.
If I’m being honest I’ve been a huge fan of Orlando City SC since day one, I was at the inaugural game (A 1-1 draw to NYCFC in a packed out orange bowl) and I never really had a comprehensive picture of where they started, so thank you!
@@TheMrPeteChannel euro posers? As americans haven’t been playing the sport almost as long as the English. Hell, our first professional team started the same year as Notts County. And if you’re talking about recently the MLS was formed a year after the premier league. Get your weak ass Eurocentrism out of here.
FYI, "Sounders" has a double meaning most people gloss over. A sounder is a sonar device for depth and fish finding. They are in use on almost every boat in and around the Puget Sound and San Juan islands.
There's an additional wrinkle to the "Seattle Sounders FC" story that was left out. In 2008, when the franchise was making the transition from USL to MLS there was a fan vote for the team name. The options were Seattle FC, Seattle Alliance and Seattle Republic. After a huge outcry a write-in option was added. Fans used that write-in to overwhelmingly vote to keep "Seattle Sounders" as the name. Ownership relented, but tacked on the FC to feel like some sort rebranding had happened. In casual conversation, no one says or writes the FC. They're just the Sounders, just like it's always been.
Came here to say this! Adrian and the new owners desperately wanted to rebrand and change the name. How often does a write-in get the highest percentage of votes!? Pretty crazy.
Yep. The ownership really wanted to part ways with the "Sounders" name to show that this was something new, but the supporters overwhelmingly wanted a bridged history to the past Sounders soccer. "Born in 1974" is a badge of honor to the supporters. This season is a celebration of the 50th anniversary of The Seattle Sounders. Most fans just call them "The Sounders" and MLS corporate types hate that. The league suits want everyone to refer to them as Seattle Sounders FC (or Football Club) and they can not stand when anyone shortens the name.
Great informative video. I started watching the MLS when one of my family members began playing NYCFC (Alexandru Mitrita). Since he left, I started supporting Atlanta United, since I support the Atlanta teams in the other American sports as well. These type of videos help me get more familiar with the league!
@@JustinLearnsThings RSL got their name given to them FROM Real Madrid. They were there from the beginning of the club. The partnership didn't last, but the name stayed. So it wasn't given by actual royalty, but the name was given to them by Real Madrid, so that's good enough.
Very cool video. I definitely learned a lot. The one thing I’ll say is there’s a bit more than “civic pride” behind St. Louis City SC’s name. There’s actually a pretty strong feud between St. Louis the city and the greater Saint Louis County thanks to taxing, funding, etc. The team name is supposed to be a bit of a jab at the County as specifically the city’s entity. You might have already known this and were just trying to keep the video lighthearted, but just thought I’d share it anyway.
To be specific, there is no "greater" St. Louis County, as the City of St. Louis is a separate entity from the County and one of the few cities in the country that doesn't belong to any county. The county surrounding St. Louis (on the Missouri side of the Mississippi River) just happens to have been named after the city despite not actually containing it.
Austin was also where the former owner of the Crew wanted to move them. #SaveTheCrew started because of that, they just dusted it off when Columbus foolishly tried to get rid of Crew in the name
Part of the reason for Orlando's name and mascot are the "City Beautiful" is Orlando's official nickname and on the Seal of Orlando and the Orlando Lions were an original soccer team in the 80s that started as an amateur club to try and get the higher tiers. While "lions" is not the official name, the history of that name led to the unofficial nickname/mascot of the team.
In Europe the name Dinamo/Dynamo etc is coming from the Greek word "Dynamis" meaning power/ force ( word few thousands years older than electricity). The most of the ex Secret Services from different Eastern European countries used the name Dinamo/Dynamo to symbolize how strong their institution is.
Yes and here in America most people have no idea what Dynamo means and they just thought it was cool to copy Europe. The Huston Dynamo has nowhere near the prestige Dynamo Kyiv, Dynamo Moscow, Dynamo Zagreb, Dinamo Tbilisi, Dinamo Bucharesti, Dynamo Dresden and others. Look at Real Salt Lake. They just want to be "cool" like Real Madrid. It's just cringy. I am a huge fan of Eastern European soccer and probably the biggest reasons is the history. MLS has no history so they make history up. The team trying the beat to show some history I guess woukd be the New England Revolution since they had until a few months ago a good logo and back in 2016 jerseys made to resemble revolutionary war uniforms. I just feel like Americans try to copy Europe because they desperately want to be like Europe soccer wise. MLS was made in the 90's soccer teams around the world have been around many times that and I feel have better history and often times quality too. This is however, just my opinion
@@jakearmstrong335 My club existed before MLS as the video states. We have history, just not as old. In 2 years my club will have been around for 50 years and we just won the CONCACAF Champions League so you WILL hear us at the FIFA Club World Cup. Seattle Sounders Football Club
@@jakearmstrong335 other Dynamo teams were employees of power plants. Dynamos convert mechanical to electric power. Houston, with all the energy and oil industries is known as the energy capital of the world. Hence, dynamo. So, yeah. Shut up.
@@morganbrokaw5190 where did you learn that. The Dynamo/Dinamo teams of The communist bloc are from the Dynamo Sports Club. This is from the NKVD not mechanical or anything like that. Dynamo Houston made up the Dynamo name for themselves they are compleatly unrelated to the Dynamo Sports Club of the Communist Bloc
Chicagoan and life long (born in 1997 so literally) fire fan here. At 10:10 he says the first star represents the fire. This is false, the first star is the founding of Ft. Dearborn (which he later calls the fourth star) each star in his list should be pushed down one. This is significant because a lot of monickers within the club play with the term “second star” in reference to the Chicago Fire being the second star on the flag.
Atlanta as a whole has had strong ties to soccer in the south with two former soccer teams: • *Atlanta Chiefs/ Atlanta Apollos* Played in Atlanta Fulton County Stadium (with Braves and Falcons) and was folded in 1981 Played from 1967-1981 • *Atlanta Silverbacks/ Atlanta Ruckus* Was founded in 1998 and was renamed later to honor the death of famous Gorilla in Atlanta Zoo, Willie B. Played from 1998-2015 • *Atlanta Beat* Only professional women’s soccer team in Atlanta Played from 2001-2003
A former Atlanta Chiefs player who was from South Africa ended up founding the Kaiser Chiefs club, even using the old Atlanta Chiefs logo as part of theirs.
Ah nice! I’ve been a Liverpool fan for a little over a decade… I was thinking of doing an EPL video, but haven’t really landed on what those would be yet!
@@JustinLearnsThings I have a lot of respect for Liverpool. A fine club with a rich history. One idea on how to approach Premiere League: perhaps a brief overview of how promotion/relegation works (since that's a weird concept to American-only sports fans), then maybe the history of the 20 clubs who have spent the most time in Premiere League.
A reference to my club, Sporting CP, great stuff! Very interisting to know all of the twists and turns, the franchise concept is quite strange for us in Portugal.
Yep I prefer the original crest (the three labourers). But with today trend when the clubs simplify their crest, they should remodel the crest without leaving the roots. I think it would be a proper crest if they remodeled it with the helmets or hard hat with the name of crew in front of the helmet. And the helmet itself was inside a shield
24:10 his word is kinda right, but only for French in Europe. In Québec, we use soccer like the rest of North America, so the name is pretty dumb. It was basically just a marketing trick that did not go down well with the fans.
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The name of Real Salt Lake was really chosen because the owner at the time wanted to get some kind of working agreement with Real Madrid and thought that being called Real Salt Lake would make that easier. To get fan support for the name and the team, however, there was a contest to pick the name of the team even though the owner had already chosen the name. In addition to Real Salt Lake, the fans could vote on a whole list of names, like Alliance Salt Lake, Utah Highlanders, etc., but in the end, Real Salt Lake was the name "chosen" by the fans. I think that the team should have been named Utah Highlanders just because the fans could painted themselves green and blue, worn kilts to the games and basically just acted like extras in the movie Braveheart. But, instead we got Real Salt Lake which has no real meaning for Utah. At least Highlanders can be used to refer to people from the mountains, which we have lots of.
Haha! I think that would be a pretty fun fan experience! Yeah, I've come across that a couple of times where the owner heavily puts their hand on the scale of the 'Fan vote'!
Great video. I want to expand a little bit on the sporting kc name. While there are many multi sport clubs around the world (clubs that play in more than one sport under the same name) some clubs choose to denote that fact with their name. Some teams call themselves "Atheltic Club" others "Sport Society" (my favorite is a team in ecuador that call themselves a "high performance sports club") but the majority who choose to celebrate that fact call themselves Sport Clubs or Sporting. Although the main reason for Sporting KC rebranding was to align themselves more with traditional naming conventions of Europe, the original plan for the then new owners was to also start a major league rugby team under the same Sporting KC name and thus become a true multi sport club. However, at least to my knowledge, that never took off so the name is more of an ornament than an actual testament to sporting KC actually being a multi sport club. Fun fact: the "SC" on the club shield stands for Sporting Club which is the name of the ownership group that operates SKC. Again their original intent was to actually own multiple sport teams under that same name but sadly that never happened. Multi sport clubs aren't really a thing on a professional level. The closest thing I would say would be owners of multiple sport franchises following a similar naming/colour scheme across different franchises. Like Revolution and Patriots, Sounders and Seahawks, Atlanta united and Atlanta falcons, and Charlotte FC and Carolina panthers. The franchise model more or less prevents multi sport clubs from being a reality in the US. Interestingly, the US has a deep passion and popularity with multi sport clubs in the form of collegiate sports. That's the closest thing the US has to true multi sport clubs. And another fun fact is that whereas in the rest of the world the naming convention for multi sport clubs is "Sporting" or "Sport club" the US naming convention is tacking on the word "athletics" to the full team name. So Florida Gators Athletics would be an example of an official team athletic program name. It would be cool if a professional multisport club ever becomes a reality in the US
That’s a really good and interesting point that the collegiate sports are essentially giant multi sport sporting clubs!! Thanks for the context and great comment!
Orlando City’s name goes a bit deeper than that. Their Lions namesake and purple color dates back to when the Orlando Lions played in the NASL throughout the 80s.
In the full truth Portland got their name because the local newspaper asked for a write-in vote. The largest suggestion was actually Pioneer in a nod to the Oregon Trail. However, Lewis & Clark University already had that as their mascot. So the newspaper editors and the first owner selected Timbers from the list of other suggestions.
6:09 It isn't all that, there is RB Bragantino (Brazilian League and owned by RedBull GmbH) too, and RB Leipzig is actually named "Rasenballsport Leipzig" and it shortens to RB which can make people think it as "RedBull Leipzig".
This was very insightful and interesting you should do other football leagues like Canada’s new league or the Mexican Primera Division there’s also a lot of South American clubs with very interesting names (a lot are actually in English)
@@sounders7422 that is true. I know in Ecuador I think there's a club called 9 de Octubre so there's a few odd but definitely interesting club names out there.
Here in Brazil there's a lot of clubs that have SC in their names, but it actually means Sport Club. For example, SC Corinthians Paulista and SC Internacional. It's common to see EC too, that means Esporte Clube.
Sacramento really deserves to actually join the MLS at some point in the near future. The fanbase is there and very passionate (much like with the Sacramento Kings in the NBA) despite being a smaller market than most. It will be a shame if they never get their spot. Sactown has some of the most loyal fans in the country.
Win,lose,or tie I’m a Sounders fan until I die!!! GO SOUNDERS!!!! The Cascadia cup is such a beautiful thing. !! Hit that like 👍🏼 button if you know what’s up!
The 1994 World Cup is what lead to MLS being formed. The 2026 World Cup will likely have a similar major impact on the sport in North America where it's being held.
Thank you. This was very interesting, but you missed that in between being called Minnesota Stars and MN United FC they were briefly named Minnesota Thunder. This was a very popular nickname and I'm surprised they didn't retain it. There is still a group of supporters named Dark Clouds.
The Thunder played in Minnesota from 1990-2009, mostly in the USL. Even though a huge chunk of the roster and staff turned over from the Thunder to NSC Minnesota and there was no break in between, they are technically two separate entities. Though they feel connected because one basically rolled into the other.
26:47 shout out Atlanta United in 2018 I drove my boy crack rock Antonio to tryouts and the coaches told me he should come back cuz he was good enough to at least be on their development squad but he didn’t wanna go back smh my boy could been Soccer Ball Antonio
Choosing the name of the club / Franchises / Moving the team to another town, are concepts at the minimum ackwark for an European Football supporter :D
And by the way, clubs here are usualy named after a City or City Quarter with Sporting (Desportivo) or FC or something like that. There are no Earthquakes, Tornados, Thunders or things like that :D :D Sometimes it feels that American football clubs need to have a name like a super-hero movie title :)
Damn, no mention of San Diego. We are getting a mls team in 2025. Right now we have san diego wave, the women's team with Alex Morgan thats plays in a new stadium, they have fun games. We also have the San Diego Loyals, a USL team but I don't like their stadium, and I just found out they are folding after this season because they can't find a better stadium. Well, it makes it easier for me to support the wave and the new MLS teams at least
Being from Ireland I love the USA 🇺🇲 and it's soccer league I'm a Glasgow Celtic fan , anyway I've been to Maine 3 times visiting friends and I would love to see Maine get it's MLS team and would love it to be in south Portland Maine
That's great to hear! I'm in Maine and I'd love to get a team in Portland. It would make traveling to games a lot easier. 😅 It probably won't happen because "New England Revolution" is supposed to represent the entire New England region, Maine included. Also we never get professional sports teams, only minor league ones. I'd love to be wrong though haha.
Fun Fact: LA Galaxy and OG Quakes were both owned by Anschutz Entertainment. Once new SJSU/Quakes stadium talks broke down in the 2000s, Anschutz traded itself Landon Donovan from SJ to LA via GM Alexi Lalas, who then also went to Galaxy. Anschutz then moved the SJ team to Houston and in 2007 MLS made them divest and own only one team (Galaxy). Houston stadium took forever to complete and SJ went on a 3-year hiatus and got a new stadium in 2015.
@@JustinLearnsThings For the first decade some ownership groups owned multiple teams; besides the Anschutz example, Lamar Hunt (the Kansas City Chiefs owner) owned the KC, Columbus and Dallas teams. That dissipated when the league stabilized and added more teams and owners.
In Denmark many football/soccer clubs' full official names are simply "Boldklubben XXXX" and in rare cases "Boldklubben af XXXX" where "Boldklubben"="The ball club". "af"="of" and XXXX is the founding year. Their shortened official names are just "B XXXX", sometimes with a space and sometimes not. Only one of these clubs are founded in the 19th century, specifically in 1893, and it doesn't even show the century in the short name, as it is simply called B 93. AFAIk there are only 2 German clubs where the founding year is represented in the shortened name: 1860 München, and Schalke 04
I’d love to see that! I bet they never will though because of the money the teams would lose getting relegated! I doubt any of the owners would vote for that!
Yeah, so you pay 250 million or so to make a stadium and you pay another 250 million to buy an MLS team only to end up playing in a college stadium with 2500 seats because you got relegated. Brilliant idea. That's half a billion dollars down the drain. You guys are geniuses.
@Thebossman It is "football" being played in MLS. You just want same rules that work in countries where its the biggest sport but here its not the biggest sport. It's got other old and huge leagues to contend with. You are just not thinking it through.
@Thebossman Because that process takes decades to build and we don't have your sweet time, that's why. Most of your top euro teams have been sold to foreigners who work it strictly as a business. Don't give me that purist crap. We'll do it as we see fit. We know the landscape here, you dont.
@Thebossman people will take MLS seriously as it grows and establishes itself and wins. The stupid relegation has zero to do with that. No other USA league succeeds or busts on relegation. You are just a creature of habit. Snap out of it. There is more than one way to skin a cat.
A little additional to the Sounders The MLS team was not originally planned to be named the Sounders. The name was going to go to a fan vote with generic team names such as Seattle FC, Seattle Republic, etc. But fan outcry forced the league/team to add a write in option. Where the name Sounders won by a landslide. The fans named the team Sounders twice.
I feel North American Soccer Club names were define by the New York Cosmos, which I feel is one of the best names in all of professional sports since it defined the Club as a unique entity with roots both in the world and the city it represented. If someone can get the naming rights in New York please use it. (Sorry but LA Galaxy seems to me to be a cheap imitation.) Next favourite team name is Vancouver Whitecaps using a natural features surrounding the city. Also the Whitecaps and Cosmos are forever melded to their city. ( Never want to hear of the Cleveland Cosmos or Boise Whitecaps or anything like that.) Chicago Fire and Philadelphia Union also work for me for those reasons and all these names just roll off the tongue like they were meant to be. Philadelphia Union is also a much better name than DC United since it uses the a similar word but the North American context, Union, I feel, works much better. Not only is the name United bad, but I also do not Like Sporting, Dynamo and especially Real Salt Lake. These names have nothing to do with their local culture. FC or SC is okay and seems unimaginative but at least those clubs don't pretend to be something they are not. . One Final note I do want the name Tampa Bay Rowdies to return if at all possible. I talked about names that sing or roll of the tongue. So here it is what seems to be my criteria for soccer clubs names: Come up with something about the your city but have it sound like it was always meant to be..
1) I'd like to see names that sound both like traditional European teams and like American standard sports teams: Rovers, Rangers, Warriors, Wanderers, etc. "Rovers" would work nicely: it sounds like a typical English team (e.g. Blackburn Rovers), but an MLS team could have a dog in the emblem and hire a guy to wear a bloodhound/spaniel/retriever suit as a mascot. 2) I'd also like to see more teams use geographical/regional names instead of cities or states, such as how the Golden State Warriors represent the Bay Area. Baltimore could be "FC Chesapeake", Detroit/Michigan "Great Lakes United", Colorado "Front Range", and Nebraska "River Platte" (groan).
I hope the MLS goes back to more traditionally american sports teams names, like the galaxy, rapids, sounders, you get it. I understand what they were trying to do, to be more like european clubs, but I think it actually had the opposite effect. The soccer scene in the US is ever growing, and creating a more unique league, and naming traditions, will put the MLS in the international spotlight even more I believe. I do like some of the euro style names though don't get me wrong, like d.c. united for instance, but it feels like whenever the MLS announced expansion, it wouldn't be fun about revealing a name. Was crazy excited when they announced austin would get a team (I'm from austin), but sad to see it's just Austin FC
Yeah I don’t mind having a bit of both, but do prefer the sounders/Timbers/earthquake, etc, over the Austin fc/Nashville FC… some feel like it works better than others to me like sporting KC or NYCFC, both feel appropriate
Yeah, it definitely makes sense historically! So many things with names seem to lose their meeting after time, but had actual purpose like 100 years ago lol
That isn't true, Newton Heath LYR FC was renamed to Manchester United FC without merging with any club to try and represent a United city of Manchester and to compete with the already renamed Manchester City FC, they copied the name from Sheffield United and Newcastle United, Sheffield United was founded by a cricket club of the same name which is the first recorded English sports club to use the United name meanwhile Newcastle United was formed from the merger of Newcastle East End FC with Newcastle West End FC and to my knowledge is the only major club that uses United to signify the merger of two clubs into one as opposed to it signifying a United city or area.
Technically, RB Leipzig didn't exist yet in 2006, since Red Bull only bought the right to FC Markranstädt (the original club that RB Leipzig formed out of) in 2009. So, when New York Red Bull was initiated, RB Leipzig didn't exist yet.
The Los Angeles Galaxy's name is also fitting for two more reasons: it's the most popular and most recognizable MLS club in the world, and it's the MLS club with the most high-profile DP signings. David Beckham, Robbie Keane, Landon Donovan, Alexi Lalas, Steven Gerrard, Zlatan Ibrahimović, the dos Santos brothers, Jorge Campos, and most recently, Chicharito, are playing/have played for the club. Ruud Gullit was the head coach/manager at one point. It also had notable footballers like Andrew Shue (Hollywood actor who played for the Galaxy in its 1st season while also being a regular cast member of the TV series _Melrose Place_ ), Robbie Rogers (1st openly gay man to play for a top-flight professional North American sports team), and Jonathan Klinsmann (2nd choice goalkeeper and son of former USMNT head coach/manager Jürgen Klinsmann). Interestingly enough, the Galaxy's popularity echoes the New York Cosmos' popularity in its heyday (astronomy-related team name, based in a major US city, international recognition, signing the most star players out of any club like Péle, Franz Beckenbauer, Carlos Alberto, and Giorgio Chinaglia).
Yeah I wish more teams would go with the classic MLS teams now! I feel like initially the wave of FC/SC/Real/Sporting/United etc names felt fresh, now there's way too many of them, need more of the creative names!
I kinda hate that the MLS teams wanted to become more like European soccer and not their own thing. DC United should have been the only team with such name. All these FCs and SCs and other Uniteds just don't feel right. KC should have still been the Wizards, Montreal should have still been the Impact, and so on. While some of the nicknames weren't great, they were certainly more fun and fitting for North American sports and may have been better for growth of the league from casual soccer fans in my opinion.
Austin FC was a fallback plan because the owner tried to sneak Columbus Crew out of town with a hidden clause. After blowback from Columbus fans and the rest of MLS, the league gave Precourt a discounted purchase and Austin jumped the other teams that were in the middle of those expansion talks, to include Sacramento, San Diego, and San Antonio.
American football teams: copy and borrow ideas from existing baseball names American soccer teams: copy and borrow ideas from existing European soccer teams
The whole FC vs SC divide is kinda funny. Maybe it's because I'm more of an American sports fan than global soccer one, but I prefer the MLS trying to be more unique and not copying other Soccer teams. Go with SC and use a real team name.
I gotta be honest - I don't love this trend that Real Salt Lake started by just mimicking the naming conventions around the world. LAFC, Inter Miami, Nashville FC, FC Cincinnati, etc. are such boring names compared to the LA Galaxy, Seattle Sounders, Portland Timbers, New England Revolution. It reminds me of Cool Runnings when they count in German to try to emulate the "seriousness" of the German squad. Pish posh. Be yourselves and have some damn personality!
Couldn't disagree more. Mascots and gimmick names are childish North American oddities. I love the idea of European teams being defined by pride for their city, not a bird or "fearsome" animal. FC, Real and City teams are for refreshing to see for North America.
@@Kevin-yh5br Actually, we use both the city name (or other region) *and* a cool nickname in other North American sports leagues. Naming teams only after the city and the sport itself is boring and lame, just like many of the MLS teams have done!
@@Compucles To me nicknames should be organic. If my club had been named Seattle FC people STILL would have called them the Sounders. Because that was organic. Also you instantly know what sport a team called CityName FC plays. In the US, a crowded sports market, that should not be lost on anyone. MLS isn't stupid. They knew they needed to change and stand out and they have and are.
For the Atlanta United logo was inspired by our railroad history and the western and Atlantic railroad locomotive the general a beautiful 4-4-0 American class
I was working at a sports apparel retailer in Miami when Inter Miami was in the startup phases for their first match. I don’t follow soccer so I had literally no idea what I was looking at when I opened a box of pink and black jerseys 😂
2:35 Saying New Zealand (and likely Australia) call football "soccer" is a very quick way to poor gasoline onto an on-going argument. Edit: From what I can tell most football clubs in NZ are either FC or AFC (this is definite for the thirty clubs in NZs top division qualifier leagues)
@@tommytrinder.1226 I live in New Zealand and call it both, primarily football. I have friends who'll get pretty annoyed at you if you call it soccer. Trust me it is very much an on going argument here.
You gotta feel bad for MLS. When they started they felt compelled to have "American" names in order to stand out and not look like they're pandering...but they choose very 90s names and logos and got ridiculed over it (I mean do you want to support the Wiz?). Then they overcorrected by going "traditional" and choose names that sound European but devoid of history or logic (nothing royal over Real Salt Lake, why are we placing FC in front when the names are in English?). Now it seems every team only has a choice between "United", "City" or just FC 😂 and fans are complaining about the generic naming convention. And then we have my team: Club Internacional de Futbol Miami which is awkward because the short form of "Inter Miami CF" makes no sense. /Traditional naming convention states that CF stands for "Club de Futbol" which is fine to translate into "Football Club" without the "de" (because "of" is implied in English; no need to say the "Club of Football".) HOWEVER the International part comes in the middle of CF in the long form name, and thus it really should be CIF Miami because it implies that the name of the club isn't International but that word "Internacional" is instead an adjective to the type of club it is or in other words using literal translation: International Club of Football or in more common English, International Football Club. TL;DR I'm just blabbing to say Inter Miami should have been named Club de Futbol Internacional de Miami if they really cared about Spanish or whatever marketing slant they went with.
RB Leipzig actually stands for Rasenballsport Leipzig because the bundesliga did not allow Red Bull to give the team a corporate name. Red Bull chose the name rasenballsport because they can abbreviate it to RB and people would mistake the name for Red Bull Leipzig instead of its actual name.
Haha looks like that is exactly what i did! Thank you for sharing! I didn't even realize RB wasn't for Red Bull in Leipzig's case! That's a very funny work around!
Rasenballsport is actually meaningless in German. Its roughly translated into English as "Lawn ball sports", they just made it up to get around the rule.
Danm that's brilliant
_Illusion 100_
Yeah what a name for a club lmao. Grass ball sport Leipzig….Sounds like a football club totally. Lmao
Lol - I love how the first team to leave MLS was ironically called "mutiny"
Underrated comment! 👆
Ohh that comment is f**king amazing 😂🤣😂😅😂😅😂😅
That's the opposite of ironic. It's apt. It would be ironic if they were called the "Tampa Bay Solvency".
Never realised that.
@@ramshacklealex7772 BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Leipzig isn’t called “Red Bull Leipzig”, they are called “RB Leipzig” because the DFB wouldn’t let them put the corporate name directly into the team’s name….officially the RB stands for Rassen Ballsport - which directly translates to Lawn Ball Game. They really had to twist things around to get the initials RB in there in a semi-legitimate way.
Lol 😂 lawn ball sport! That’s amazing!! Thank you for this!!
@@JustinLearnsThings No sweat. Love the vids.
That is super cool that they would not let a corporation put their name on a club. I really wish this country would have the balls to do that.
With the deep French culture, and typically good climate, I’m always a little surprised that the MLS has never tried New Orleans.
Yeah that’s a good point!
Just look at the Pels. Does NOLA as a whole really care about much else besides the Saints and LSU? 😅
typically good climate. Umm, hurricanes in the general area arent uncommon at all, so you might be stretching that just a wee bit LOL
New Orleans is on the MLS expansion list so soon
Its not the league which decides where to expand to. It's the local markets which become attractive to the league. New Orleans needs 1) a Billionaire interested in paying $600 million for a team 2) a viable stadium plan 3) a huge marketing budget
As a Quakes fan I'm still mad that the team moved to Houston, made very few changes to the squad, basically only wearing different colors, and then Houston won the MLS title TWO YEARS IN A ROW.
So while it was technically Houston that won the titles, it was because of the team that was originally in SJ.
Yeah I'd be heartbroken to have one of my teams move! That must have sucked!
Fellow quakes fan here and i will never forgive alexi lalas for doing that
Is there a website where I can learn more about the history of that move to Houston?
@@JustinLearnsThings the current Quakes owner is horrible. If you follow the Oakland A’s baseball team then that’s all you need to know. Owned by the same guy. I’ve even met the middle man who facilitated the deal between Don Garber/Fisher. Nice guy but he isn’t complaining since he’s sitting as comfortable as the owner at this point.
@@JustinLearnsThings @Omar Juarez That's a bummer and understand of respect, plus hard core fans since day one, especially rich tradition. Great example is Columbus Crew when prior owner threatened to move team to Austin if new stadium wasn't built before Haslens took over in 2019. Of course, die hard fans and city here in Columbus prevented that from happening in moving team as think even current MLS Commissioner Don Garber isn't much fan favorite here in Columbus was probably going to let it go through. However, new stadium was built in downtown area and opened last year. Hence, prior owner now owns Austin and got expansion team out of it.
Another example is the Cleveland Browns in the National Football League when prior owner Art Modell moved to Baltimore in 1997 due to dispute with city of Cleveland in new stadiums for football and baseball as Indians got new stadium but be couple more years for the Browns with contract of old Municipal Stadium at time + factors. In 2000, the newly named Baltimore Ravens (new name as uproar by Browns fans kept original name in Cleveland) won the Super Bowl, 4 years after move and hate Baltimore for that as much as Pittsburgh or even more. Even Steelers fans were shocked as that old, traditional rivalry was haulted for a while. Around time of Browns move to Baltimore, think Ohio passed a law (Modell Rule?) where a team name will be kept in state despite owner wanting to move another state or something similar to those lines as I don't know exact detail to be honest. Think in 2004, the Cleveland Browns were reinstated after hiatus.
Therefore, from prior statement and due new law, The Columbus Crew stayed. Wish Bay area/San Jose didn't have brief hiatus as Browns did and had same situation like The Crew had in strong support overriding political power, $$, and greed that takes place in society today.
I think it’s odd how the MLS tries to appeal to European soccer fans and American fans, like they have teams that have European names like FC Dallas, but then they go and change their playoff format to copy the NFL’s and get rid of 2-leg matches that are iconic in European tournaments. It will be interesting to see where they go with this because one side of the league is trying to go more European whereas another part is trying to appeal to the American audience
You’ll never get a strong European audience without promotion and relegation
it is what it is, MLS will never be able to please everyone. People who have been following the league for a while know that the league is really starting to make some progress these days and there are exciting days ahead
I don't think they're appealing to American audience at all with the play-off format. It's just an American soccer league formatting itself after other American sports leagues, sort of like how European leagues of American sports (basketball) have pro-reg instead of a closed system; they're keeping the system in which they know and are familiar with. The naming of clubs is what sticks as trying to appeal to European sensibilities.
TBH, a play-off format would make most European countries' national leagues more interesting. In Spain, Italy and most extremely in France and Germany the leagues seem to exist exclusively to supply points to the usuals suspects so they become champions almost each year.
It feels like MLS is having a bit of an identity crisis. I fear that it feels like Brazilian friend who has lived most of her life in Portugal. The Portuguese don't see her as Portuguese enough and see her as Brazilian, while the Brazilians don't see her Brazilian enough and see her as Portuguese. The MLS seem the same, they seem to European to be seen as American, but too Americanise to be popular with Europeans.
I would have loved to see you mention how the Philadelphia Union is the only team that had a supporters club before its existence. The Sons of Ben were created in Philadelphia years before they got a team. It was this supporters club that convinced the MLS to expand to Philly.
Is that short for sons of Ben Vereen? Ben Franklin the first American citizen?
From Philly and didn’t know that. Pretty awesome and those guys are fanatics
Not true. The Metrostars had Empire Support Club.
And That team Will lose To the KING ATLAS 🔴⚫
I mean technically OCSC, Timbers and other USL promoted teams had supporters before they became MLS teams. Since MLS is a single entity, a team can't exist prior to joining officially.
I remember that first year of the MLS. Went to a number of DC United matches and there's another reason they are United. The area has a long history of soccer. I was playing in the 1970s and there were leagues going back much earlier. The region is often referred to as the DMV, so they wanted to let all three jurisdictions know it was regional club, like New England.
That's a good point on regional representation of the DMV!
There are actually a lot of clubs overseas with 'SC' rather than 'FC', but usually it refers to 'Sporting Club' or the local translation. See SC Portugal/Sporting CP.
"SC Portugal" looks pretty wierd. While "Sporting Club de Portugal" is thier official name most people say sporting c.p. or Sporting Lisbon
Sc Freiburg, Lille osc, Sporting cp.
@Michael Keegan SC Heerenveen (the Netherlands)
SC Corinthians Paulista (Brazil)
SC at the end though not the beginning lol
A fun fact about brazilian teams names:
The most popular sport here in Brazil at the ending of 19th century and beginning of the 20th century was regatta (boat racing), obviously in coastal cities, mainly in Rio de Janeiro. The most successful Regatta Clubs, or Clubes de Regatas (CR) in portuguese, started to create a Football/Soccer department as the popularity of this "new" sport kept growing. So now 3 of 4 big football/soccer teams from Rio de Janeiro city have "R" in their names, CR Flamengo, CR Vasco da Gama and Botafogo FR (Futebol e Regatas), with Fluminense FC being the exception. Today nobody cares about regatta here in Brazil, but the clubs kept CR on their names to respect the history.
To be clear, almost every team is a multi-sports club here in Brazil, so its not that odd to see an volleyball or basketball team with FC on its name, or a CR team being a big football/soccer club, as I explained.
I miss the MLS-specific naming style that used to rule. Names like Mutiny, Crew, Impact, Galaxy, etc., that weren't plurals (Broncos, Panthers, Athletics, etc.) but had their own style.
Yeah I definitely enjoyed those style names too!
Olso names of clubs from older league like "LA Aztecs", "New York Cosmos", "Washington Diplomats", "philadelphia atoms" instead of boring "New York City FC", "XYZ City/united/FC".
Yep, that made the clubs less boring. Naming your club as United or FC were lame, boring and lazy
The NWSL does that too! Courage, Pride, Dash, Reign, Spirit, etc.
Metrostars was awesome. I just wished they had continued to name teams that way.
Nashville SC actually started as Nashville FC (Football Club) in the NPSL in 2013, when we got the promotion to USL we were required to change the name and decided on Nashville SC, there was a pre-existing organization called Nashville FC (an American Football group) requiring the change to avoid any legal issues and we wanted to honor our origins so we just changes the Football to Soccer, we changed the logo as well when we promoted up to USL but kept it similar in shape (a round shield style). When MLS came around the managing group changed the logo entirely but kept the name. A history of 2 names, 3 logos, but always Blue and Gold
You know you could of added a cool nickname.
By the way, only the US uses SC to abbreviate Soccer Club. There are other teams with SC in their name around the world, which abbreviated to Sports Club
Right and this is a video about MLS Team names... so SC in these circumstances stand for soccer club.
We don't have sports clubs in professional sports leagues, so it would not make sense.
@@jldch26 What do you mean? You mean in North America specifically? Is there no club that provides a different sport than what they are known for in NA?
SC "Sports Club" is used by clubs that are not solely there for football/soccer as many clubs were founded back in the day to provide different sports for the people. A typical example would be SC Freiburg in Germany or SK Rapid Wien in Austria ("SK" because "Club" can also be written as "Klub" starting with a K).
@@MrReese all our professional leagues except the few independent ones run on a franchise model. We have sports clubs but there's no professional teams to em. Amateur leagues sure. But I can't think of any sports club providing professional competition in any sport here in the U.S. now the country is huge so I could be wrong.
@@jldch26 But does franchise model mean the club/team is not allowed to provide other sports, even in lower leagues maybe?
Colorado Rapids did a nifty trick here. While still referring to a local theme, links to a traditional naming practice in Europe that began with the legendary Austrian team SK Rapid Wien (Rapid București, SK Rapid Lienz, Rápido de Bouzas...)
Oh dang I totally missed that! Really good connection!
Interesting to see the cities the MLS chooses to expand to as opposed to how the other major leagues did.
Here in Detroit fans are defiant of the MLS- strong turnout, have an amazing culture, fans have a partial ownership in the team, and literally openly curse the MLS and its sellouts. Hope they never lose the club here just to gain a franchise. ❤️
DCTID! The atmosphere at Keyworth is incredible!
Was a big Impact fan. Went many times to the stadium, bought merch, but the owner decided to destroy what we loved. Now we are supposed to support a blend ski team without colors. NEVER! I couldn't even name you a single new player and have no clue where we finished in the ranking this year. And I won't come back until our club is back or buy the owner cheese and cakes. Such a stupid disrespectful move! You just don't remove the "fleur de lys" in Québec when you build around this symbol for more than 25 years. How to destroy a club 101. Damn i'm pissed!
What do you think of the even newer logo?
I've been waiting for this!!! Thank for for recognising MLS as a league
It’s not, it’s a tournament because there is no relegation. At least that is how most people I know in Europe think.
@@Nebulous-YT it’s a retirement league where superstars go when they can’t play in Europe’s top leagues anymore and want some extra cash
@@Nebulous-YT It is a league, yes they're isn't relegation. ITs as much a league as the NFL, NBA, MLB, and every sports league in the US. Also, many european hockey leagues don't have relegation, does that make them tournaments. They're are many types of leagues and the American Model is one of them. Many non-american leagues follow this format. You have to qualify for a tournament, like the World Cup, Copa America, and so on. This is a league because the teams are already established. You don't need relegation to make it a league.
@@imanillegalimmigrant Nobody that I know in Europe likes Hockey, which interests me which countries do like it. Germany? Poland?
@@thedannyboy1221 And its a league where American talent is born and sold of to the European Leagues, Tyler Adams, Red Bull New York. Pepi, eventually Europe. Chris Muller, Orland City FC. Busio, SKC. Tyler Adams, Roma. Our league has lost of young talent but no one cares. Every one ignores that for the 20 or so old players that want cash. Its the same thing for the A-League and Indian Super League, but we get 20x the criticism. I don't get it. MLS is 25 Years old. What as the English Football League like when it was 25 years old, back in 1913/14. Probably not that good with decent-ish players and mediocre attendance. No, I don't think MLS is better than the Top 5 leagues like some idiotic MLS fans. The league is top 20 in the world and thats okay. The league does have old players that are just their for a quick buck. But thats less than 1% of the league. Europeans just focus on that just to make fun of MLS. So what, our league is consistently giving you guys talent and world betters and you guys call us a RETIREMENT league for like 30 players. Its only a few clubs that are like that, LA Galaxy, New York/New Jersey Re Bulls, Orlando City FC, Inter Miami CF, and to a certain extent NYCFC. So 5 teams out of almost 30. The treatment of some of these academy teams like NY Red Bulls and FC Dallas, Sporting Kansas and other USL teams are just idiotic. Yes, we do have old players, but our league is so much more than that. Passionate fan bases that beat lots of European ones, players getting drafted late and becoming stars in this league, young stars hoping to get a move an ambitious project in Europe. The league has so much history with franchises dating back to the 70's. Traditions lasting through generation. All of that is avoided because of 30 old guys. You haven't even watched MLS. You probably cant name 10 MLS right now. All you know is that they're are old players and that it's a retirement league. If you do a 5 minute google search, you'll see that MLS is much more than a league that old ageing Europeans come to die. Also, many of the "Europeans that cant play in the top leagues" ended up doing so. Beckham went to PSG, Zlatan to AC Milan, and Lampard to Man City. So please, don't just go around criticising MLS fans for asking for respect when we don't even get that respect on our own nation.
If I’m being honest I’ve been a huge fan of Orlando City SC since day one, I was at the inaugural game (A 1-1 draw to NYCFC in a packed out orange bowl) and I never really had a comprehensive picture of where they started, so thank you!
Wow thanks a lot for checking it out!! 🙌
*Citrus Bowl, now Camping World Stadium. However now they have a soccer specific stadium, Exploria Stadium.
So what do you euro posers chant? Go City or Go Orlando?
@@TheMrPeteChannel euro posers? As americans haven’t been playing the sport almost as long as the English. Hell, our first professional team started the same year as Notts County. And if you’re talking about recently the MLS was formed a year after the premier league. Get your weak ass Eurocentrism out of here.
FYI, "Sounders" has a double meaning most people gloss over. A sounder is a sonar device for depth and fish finding. They are in use on almost every boat in and around the Puget Sound and San Juan islands.
Nice thanks for the info!
@@JustinLearnsThings Also the regional commuter train is called The Sounder.
There's an additional wrinkle to the "Seattle Sounders FC" story that was left out.
In 2008, when the franchise was making the transition from USL to MLS there was a fan vote for the team name. The options were Seattle FC, Seattle Alliance and Seattle Republic. After a huge outcry a write-in option was added. Fans used that write-in to overwhelmingly vote to keep "Seattle Sounders" as the name. Ownership relented, but tacked on the FC to feel like some sort rebranding had happened.
In casual conversation, no one says or writes the FC. They're just the Sounders, just like it's always been.
Nice! I hadn't realized they tried to change the name at that point! That's a great bit of information!
And the way it was always meant to be
Came here to say this! Adrian and the new owners desperately wanted to rebrand and change the name. How often does a write-in get the highest percentage of votes!? Pretty crazy.
Yep. The ownership really wanted to part ways with the "Sounders" name to show that this was something new, but the supporters overwhelmingly wanted a bridged history to the past Sounders soccer. "Born in 1974" is a badge of honor to the supporters. This season is a celebration of the 50th anniversary of The Seattle Sounders. Most fans just call them "The Sounders" and MLS corporate types hate that. The league suits want everyone to refer to them as Seattle Sounders FC (or Football Club) and they can not stand when anyone shortens the name.
Great informative video. I started watching the MLS when one of my family members began playing NYCFC (Alexandru Mitrita). Since he left, I started supporting Atlanta United, since I support the Atlanta teams in the other American sports as well. These type of videos help me get more familiar with the league!
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it!
Dude that's epic! I liked having him at NYCFC, ended up getting a jersey.
That's awesome I'm also part of the 5 stripes
Real Salt Lake or RSL also chose the name so that Real Madrid would help pay for the academy that they started in Arizona.
Oh that’s a good tidbit! Knew that RSL had an academy in AZ but didn’t know much beyond that
@@JustinLearnsThings RSL got their name given to them FROM Real Madrid. They were there from the beginning of the club. The partnership didn't last, but the name stayed.
So it wasn't given by actual royalty, but the name was given to them by Real Madrid, so that's good enough.
A tid bit about Real Madrid is that the real part is there because it gained royal accent from the spanish crown
@@PeterBuvik it's on the video😅
my cousin played for rhat
Very cool video. I definitely learned a lot. The one thing I’ll say is there’s a bit more than “civic pride” behind St. Louis City SC’s name. There’s actually a pretty strong feud between St. Louis the city and the greater Saint Louis County thanks to taxing, funding, etc. The team name is supposed to be a bit of a jab at the County as specifically the city’s entity. You might have already known this and were just trying to keep the video lighthearted, but just thought I’d share it anyway.
Oh no I didn’t! That’s some good info, thanks for sharing!!
To be specific, there is no "greater" St. Louis County, as the City of St. Louis is a separate entity from the County and one of the few cities in the country that doesn't belong to any county. The county surrounding St. Louis (on the Missouri side of the Mississippi River) just happens to have been named after the city despite not actually containing it.
@@Compucles Baltimore City raising their hand in unison with STL
Austin was also where the former owner of the Crew wanted to move them. #SaveTheCrew started because of that, they just dusted it off when Columbus foolishly tried to get rid of Crew in the name
Part of the reason for Orlando's name and mascot are the "City Beautiful" is Orlando's official nickname and on the Seal of Orlando and the Orlando Lions were an original soccer team in the 80s that started as an amateur club to try and get the higher tiers. While "lions" is not the official name, the history of that name led to the unofficial nickname/mascot of the team.
Nice! Thank you for sharing that!
In Europe the name Dinamo/Dynamo etc is coming from the Greek word "Dynamis" meaning power/ force ( word few thousands years older than electricity). The most of the ex Secret Services from different Eastern European countries used the name Dinamo/Dynamo to symbolize how strong their institution is.
Yes and here in America most people have no idea what Dynamo means and they just thought it was cool to copy Europe. The Huston Dynamo has nowhere near the prestige Dynamo Kyiv, Dynamo Moscow, Dynamo Zagreb, Dinamo Tbilisi, Dinamo Bucharesti, Dynamo Dresden and others. Look at Real Salt Lake. They just want to be "cool" like Real Madrid. It's just cringy. I am a huge fan of Eastern European soccer and probably the biggest reasons is the history. MLS has no history so they make history up. The team trying the beat to show some history I guess woukd be the New England Revolution since they had until a few months ago a good logo and back in 2016 jerseys made to resemble revolutionary war uniforms. I just feel like Americans try to copy Europe because they desperately want to be like Europe soccer wise. MLS was made in the 90's soccer teams around the world have been around many times that and I feel have better history and often times quality too. This is however, just my opinion
@@jakearmstrong335 My club existed before MLS as the video states. We have history, just not as old. In 2 years my club will have been around for 50 years and we just won the CONCACAF Champions League so you WILL hear us at the FIFA Club World Cup. Seattle Sounders Football Club
@@jakearmstrong335 other Dynamo teams were employees of power plants. Dynamos convert mechanical to electric power. Houston, with all the energy and oil industries is known as the energy capital of the world. Hence, dynamo. So, yeah. Shut up.
@@morganbrokaw5190 where did you learn that. The Dynamo/Dinamo teams of The communist bloc are from the Dynamo Sports Club. This is from the NKVD not mechanical or anything like that. Dynamo Houston made up the Dynamo name for themselves they are compleatly unrelated to the Dynamo Sports Club of the Communist Bloc
Feel Like England FC should be the next MLS team name.
Chicagoan and life long (born in 1997 so literally) fire fan here. At 10:10 he says the first star represents the fire. This is false, the first star is the founding of Ft. Dearborn (which he later calls the fourth star) each star in his list should be pushed down one. This is significant because a lot of monickers within the club play with the term “second star” in reference to the Chicago Fire being the second star on the flag.
Atlanta as a whole has had strong ties to soccer in the south with two former soccer teams:
• *Atlanta Chiefs/ Atlanta Apollos*
Played in Atlanta Fulton County Stadium (with Braves and Falcons) and was folded in 1981
Played from 1967-1981
• *Atlanta Silverbacks/ Atlanta Ruckus*
Was founded in 1998 and was renamed later to honor the death of famous Gorilla in Atlanta Zoo, Willie B.
Played from 1998-2015
• *Atlanta Beat*
Only professional women’s soccer team in Atlanta
Played from 2001-2003
Nice! I like the sound of Atlanta Ruckus!
The other 2 Atlanta sport teams head name of noble birds theme. I think it is cool if you had noble bird theme. Let say like garuda or red wings
A former Atlanta Chiefs player who was from South Africa ended up founding the Kaiser Chiefs club, even using the old Atlanta Chiefs logo as part of theirs.
@@gordieparenteau6555 Although they changed the colors to yellow and black. Glad I’m not the only one who about Atlanta’s forgot sports team!
Another fine video, Justin! I avidly follow Premiere League in England, but it's nice to learn the history of the clubs in MLS.
Nice! Who’s your premier league club?
@@JustinLearnsThings Manchester United. I was a big fan of Ryan Giggs. Been tough times for nearly the last decade, however.
Ah nice! I’ve been a Liverpool fan for a little over a decade… I was thinking of doing an EPL video, but haven’t really landed on what those would be yet!
@@JustinLearnsThings I have a lot of respect for Liverpool. A fine club with a rich history. One idea on how to approach Premiere League: perhaps a brief overview of how promotion/relegation works (since that's a weird concept to American-only sports fans), then maybe the history of the 20 clubs who have spent the most time in Premiere League.
Those are great ideas!! Thank you!
A reference to my club, Sporting CP, great stuff! Very interisting to know all of the twists and turns, the franchise concept is quite strange for us in Portugal.
Thank you for watching! Yeah the structure of the MLS is very different from the other leagues around the world!!
@@JustinLearnsThings true. Closest thing I can remember is international rugby, which has closed shops in some tournaments.
I’m so glad we kept “Crew” in our name. I despise the new crest, but at least we still have our team. Great video!
Yeah I was bummed when they almost changed it and really glad they kept it!
Yep I prefer the original crest (the three labourers). But with today trend when the clubs simplify their crest, they should remodel the crest without leaving the roots. I think it would be a proper crest if they remodeled it with the helmets or hard hat with the name of crew in front of the helmet. And the helmet itself was inside a shield
The second crest with the checkerboard pattern was decent but the new one is just lazy and harsh on the eyes. Not sure what they were thinking.
24:10 his word is kinda right, but only for French in Europe. In Québec, we use soccer like the rest of North America, so the name is pretty dumb. It was basically just a marketing trick that did not go down well with the fans.
I'm surprised you haven't got anymore subscribers! These name series are amazing! Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much!! Working on improving some of my design and animation abilities, hope that helps gets things moving even better!! 🙌
Thanks again for checking them out and for your kind words!!
The name of Real Salt Lake was really chosen because the owner at the time wanted to get some kind of working agreement with Real Madrid and thought that being called Real Salt Lake would make that easier. To get fan support for the name and the team, however, there was a contest to pick the name of the team even though the owner had already chosen the name. In addition to Real Salt Lake, the fans could vote on a whole list of names, like Alliance Salt Lake, Utah Highlanders, etc., but in the end, Real Salt Lake was the name "chosen" by the fans. I think that the team should have been named Utah Highlanders just because the fans could painted themselves green and blue, worn kilts to the games and basically just acted like extras in the movie Braveheart. But, instead we got Real Salt Lake which has no real meaning for Utah. At least Highlanders can be used to refer to people from the mountains, which we have lots of.
Haha! I think that would be a pretty fun fan experience! Yeah, I've come across that a couple of times where the owner heavily puts their hand on the scale of the 'Fan vote'!
Pretty good video. Love all the information I got here. Is there a chance we get a video for the USL teams?
Yeah Definitely!
@@JustinLearnsThings nice
Great video. I want to expand a little bit on the sporting kc name. While there are many multi sport clubs around the world (clubs that play in more than one sport under the same name) some clubs choose to denote that fact with their name. Some teams call themselves "Atheltic Club" others "Sport Society" (my favorite is a team in ecuador that call themselves a "high performance sports club") but the majority who choose to celebrate that fact call themselves Sport Clubs or Sporting.
Although the main reason for Sporting KC rebranding was to align themselves more with traditional naming conventions of Europe, the original plan for the then new owners was to also start a major league rugby team under the same Sporting KC name and thus become a true multi sport club. However, at least to my knowledge, that never took off so the name is more of an ornament than an actual testament to sporting KC actually being a multi sport club. Fun fact: the "SC" on the club shield stands for Sporting Club which is the name of the ownership group that operates SKC. Again their original intent was to actually own multiple sport teams under that same name but sadly that never happened.
Multi sport clubs aren't really a thing on a professional level. The closest thing I would say would be owners of multiple sport franchises following a similar naming/colour scheme across different franchises. Like Revolution and Patriots, Sounders and Seahawks, Atlanta united and Atlanta falcons, and Charlotte FC and Carolina panthers. The franchise model more or less prevents multi sport clubs from being a reality in the US.
Interestingly, the US has a deep passion and popularity with multi sport clubs in the form of collegiate sports. That's the closest thing the US has to true multi sport clubs. And another fun fact is that whereas in the rest of the world the naming convention for multi sport clubs is "Sporting" or "Sport club" the US naming convention is tacking on the word "athletics" to the full team name. So Florida Gators Athletics would be an example of an official team athletic program name.
It would be cool if a professional multisport club ever becomes a reality in the US
That’s a really good and interesting point that the collegiate sports are essentially giant multi sport sporting clubs!!
Thanks for the context and great comment!
Orlando City’s name goes a bit deeper than that. Their Lions namesake and purple color dates back to when the Orlando Lions played in the NASL throughout the 80s.
There may have been an Orlando Lions team in the 80s, but there was never an NASL team by that name.
Estão criando um monstro. Tem tudo para ser a maior liga no futuro
Wow I didn’t know Barcelona played a part in the early stages of nycfc. Thanks for the info 👍
Thanks for checking it out!
In the full truth Portland got their name because the local newspaper asked for a write-in vote. The largest suggestion was actually Pioneer in a nod to the Oregon Trail. However, Lewis & Clark University already had that as their mascot. So the newspaper editors and the first owner selected Timbers from the list of other suggestions.
I think that worked out pretty well, all in all!
6:09 It isn't all that, there is RB Bragantino (Brazilian League and owned by RedBull GmbH) too, and RB Leipzig is actually named "Rasenballsport Leipzig" and it shortens to RB which can make people think it as "RedBull Leipzig".
This was very insightful and interesting you should do other football leagues like Canada’s new league or the Mexican Primera Division there’s also a lot of South American clubs with very interesting names (a lot are actually in English)
Yeah I'll definitely look into them! Thanks for the comment!
My clubs full name is Club Deportivo Popular Junior Fútbol Club so there are definitely interesting names in South America.
@@jldch26 Some of the most interesting names in South America are the clubs which are named after a Day and Month.
@@sounders7422 that is true. I know in Ecuador I think there's a club called 9 de Octubre so there's a few odd but definitely interesting club names out there.
And lots of South American clubs with Universidad I’ve never looked into it but I assume they were started at the local university?
Awesome video that covers every MLS team
Thanks for checking it out!!
Here in Brazil there's a lot of clubs that have SC in their names, but it actually means Sport Club. For example, SC Corinthians Paulista and SC Internacional. It's common to see EC too, that means Esporte Clube.
This is was great! You definitely deserve way more subscribers!
Thanks for watching! Really appreciate your kind words!
Sacramento really deserves to actually join the MLS at some point in the near future. The fanbase is there and very passionate (much like with the Sacramento Kings in the NBA) despite being a smaller market than most. It will be a shame if they never get their spot. Sactown has some of the most loyal fans in the country.
Yeah the sac republic fan base seems great! I remember that great USL run they had a few years ago… their stadium was bumping!
Win,lose,or tie I’m a Sounders fan until I die!!! GO SOUNDERS!!!!
The Cascadia cup is such a beautiful thing. !! Hit that like 👍🏼 button if you know what’s up!
I like that football is slowly becoming bigger in the US
I hope that it will especially grow when the worldcup is being held there in 2026
Yes me too! I’m really hoping to get the chance to go to a few games in 2026! Fingers crossed! 🤞
The 1994 World Cup is what lead to MLS being formed. The 2026 World Cup will likely have a similar major impact on the sport in North America where it's being held.
Thank you. This was very interesting, but you missed that in between being called Minnesota Stars and MN United FC they were briefly named Minnesota Thunder. This was a very popular nickname and I'm surprised they didn't retain it. There is still a group of supporters named Dark Clouds.
They were Minnesota Thunder first, then NSC Stars. But yeah that is why the main supporter group is called Dark Clouds.
@@MrMmills81 They should add Thunder to the name
The Thunder played in Minnesota from 1990-2009, mostly in the USL. Even though a huge chunk of the roster and staff turned over from the Thunder to NSC Minnesota and there was no break in between, they are technically two separate entities. Though they feel connected because one basically rolled into the other.
This video is nicely detailed. I love it. I love the rich history of the MLS 😊😁
Yeah the history of the MLS and US soccer in general is quite interesting!
26:47 shout out Atlanta United in 2018 I drove my boy crack rock Antonio to tryouts and the coaches told me he should come back cuz he was good enough to at least be on their development squad but he didn’t wanna go back smh my boy could been Soccer Ball Antonio
Let's not forget that the Columbus Crew are MLS member 001.
Choosing the name of the club / Franchises / Moving the team to another town, are concepts at the minimum ackwark for an European Football supporter :D
And by the way, clubs here are usualy named after a City or City Quarter with Sporting (Desportivo) or FC or something like that. There are no Earthquakes, Tornados, Thunders or things like that :D :D Sometimes it feels that American football clubs need to have a name like a super-hero movie title :)
Haha yeah it does almost have a super hero feel to it lol
Damn, no mention of San Diego. We are getting a mls team in 2025. Right now we have san diego wave, the women's team with Alex Morgan thats plays in a new stadium, they have fun games. We also have the San Diego Loyals, a USL team but I don't like their stadium, and I just found out they are folding after this season because they can't find a better stadium.
Well, it makes it easier for me to support the wave and the new MLS teams at least
Being from Ireland I love the USA 🇺🇲 and it's soccer league I'm a Glasgow Celtic fan , anyway I've been to Maine 3 times visiting friends and I would love to see Maine get it's MLS team and would love it to be in south Portland Maine
Never been to Maine myself but I hear Portland Maine is beautiful! Thanks for checking out the video!
That's great to hear! I'm in Maine and I'd love to get a team in Portland. It would make traveling to games a lot easier. 😅 It probably won't happen because "New England Revolution" is supposed to represent the entire New England region, Maine included. Also we never get professional sports teams, only minor league ones. I'd love to be wrong though haha.
Love the channel! High quality and informative! Looks like others love it, and you’re learning a lot of additional info as well!
THansk for checking it out!
[name of city] Football Club, or [name of city] Soccer Club. Oh my goodness, such rich history!
Haha tell that to English teams! 😂
Fun Fact: LA Galaxy and OG Quakes were both owned by Anschutz Entertainment. Once new SJSU/Quakes stadium talks broke down in the 2000s, Anschutz traded itself Landon Donovan from SJ to LA via GM Alexi Lalas, who then also went to Galaxy. Anschutz then moved the SJ team to Houston and in 2007 MLS made them divest and own only one team (Galaxy). Houston stadium took forever to complete and SJ went on a 3-year hiatus and got a new stadium in 2015.
So interesting how things worked in the early days of the league! It’d be crazy for an owner to own two teams and trade with himself today lol
@@JustinLearnsThings For the first decade some ownership groups owned multiple teams; besides the Anschutz example, Lamar Hunt (the Kansas City Chiefs owner) owned the KC, Columbus and Dallas teams. That dissipated when the league stabilized and added more teams and owners.
So thrilled to have a MLS team in Charlotte!!!!!
So thrilled that our MLS Team in Charlotte is IN THE PLAYOFFS IN 2024!!!!!!!
In Denmark many football/soccer clubs' full official names are simply "Boldklubben XXXX" and in rare cases "Boldklubben af XXXX" where "Boldklubben"="The ball club". "af"="of" and XXXX is the founding year. Their shortened official names are just "B XXXX", sometimes with a space and sometimes not. Only one of these clubs are founded in the 19th century, specifically in 1893, and it doesn't even show the century in the short name, as it is simply called B 93. AFAIk there are only 2 German clubs where the founding year is represented in the shortened name: 1860 München, and Schalke 04
Very informative. MLS should just start doing relegation with USL and the other lower tier leagues, would make things even more interesting
I’d love to see that! I bet they never will though because of the money the teams would lose getting relegated! I doubt any of the owners would vote for that!
Yeah, so you pay 250 million or so to make a stadium and you pay another 250 million to buy an MLS team only to end up playing in a college stadium with 2500 seats because you got relegated. Brilliant idea. That's half a billion dollars down the drain. You guys are geniuses.
@Thebossman It is "football" being played in MLS. You just want same rules that work in countries where its the biggest sport but here its not the biggest sport. It's got other old and huge leagues to contend with. You are just not thinking it through.
@Thebossman Because that process takes decades to build and we don't have your sweet time, that's why. Most of your top euro teams have been sold to foreigners who work it strictly as a business. Don't give me that purist crap. We'll do it as we see fit. We know the landscape here, you dont.
@Thebossman people will take MLS seriously as it grows and establishes itself and wins. The stupid relegation has zero to do with that. No other USA league succeeds or busts on relegation. You are just a creature of habit. Snap out of it. There is more than one way to skin a cat.
A little additional to the Sounders
The MLS team was not originally planned to be named the Sounders. The name was going to go to a fan vote with generic team names such as Seattle FC, Seattle Republic, etc. But fan outcry forced the league/team to add a write in option. Where the name Sounders won by a landslide. The fans named the team Sounders twice.
Nice! Makes sense! It’s always a wonder when there’s a ton of fan support and ownership doesn’t listen!
I feel North American Soccer Club names were define by the New York Cosmos, which I feel is one of the best names in all of professional sports since it defined the Club as a unique entity with roots both in the world and the city it represented. If someone can get the naming rights in New York please use it. (Sorry but LA Galaxy seems to me to be a cheap imitation.)
Next favourite team name is Vancouver Whitecaps using a natural features surrounding the city. Also the Whitecaps and Cosmos are forever melded to their city. ( Never want to hear of the Cleveland Cosmos or Boise Whitecaps or anything like that.) Chicago Fire and Philadelphia Union also work for me for those reasons and all these names just roll off the tongue like they were meant to be. Philadelphia Union is also a much better name than DC United since it uses the a similar word but the North American context, Union, I feel, works much better.
Not only is the name United bad, but I also do not Like Sporting, Dynamo and especially Real Salt Lake. These names have nothing to do with their local culture. FC or SC is okay and seems unimaginative but at least those clubs don't pretend to be something they are not.
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One Final note I do want the name Tampa Bay Rowdies to return if at all possible. I talked about names that sing or roll of the tongue. So here it is what seems to be my criteria for soccer clubs names: Come up with something about the your city but have it sound like it was always meant to be..
Thanks for the comment and thanks for checking out the video! I agree NY Cosmos is a great name!
NY Cosmos are "on hiatus" having last played in 3rd tier league NISA a few years ago.
Tampa Bay Rowdies exist in USL.
this is a high quality video you deserve more views
Thanks so much! Really glad you liked it!!
Please do one on the NHL!
Definitely will be soon!!
@@JustinLearnsThings homie did it!!! Go Bolts
😎 haha thanks for checking it out!
Just posted the video today!
Subscribing off this video alone. Super thorough. Excellent content!
Thanks for checking it out!! Glad you liked it! 🙌
2:10 Now I see why people hated Columbus crew rebrand. the old logo was FANTSTIC!
Yeah an MLS classic!
You make great videos. Your subscriber count should continue to rise. Well done.
Thanks for checking out the video!
RIP Tampa Bay Mutiny, first Supporter Shield, had the first MLS MVP, El Pibe.
Indeed
1) I'd like to see names that sound both like traditional European teams and like American standard sports teams: Rovers, Rangers, Warriors, Wanderers, etc. "Rovers" would work nicely: it sounds like a typical English team (e.g. Blackburn Rovers), but an MLS team could have a dog in the emblem and hire a guy to wear a bloodhound/spaniel/retriever suit as a mascot.
2) I'd also like to see more teams use geographical/regional names instead of cities or states, such as how the Golden State Warriors represent the Bay Area. Baltimore could be "FC Chesapeake", Detroit/Michigan "Great Lakes United", Colorado "Front Range", and Nebraska "River Platte" (groan).
I like both those suggestions!! Thanks for watching!
I hope the MLS goes back to more traditionally american sports teams names, like the galaxy, rapids, sounders, you get it. I understand what they were trying to do, to be more like european clubs, but I think it actually had the opposite effect. The soccer scene in the US is ever growing, and creating a more unique league, and naming traditions, will put the MLS in the international spotlight even more I believe. I do like some of the euro style names though don't get me wrong, like d.c. united for instance, but it feels like whenever the MLS announced expansion, it wouldn't be fun about revealing a name. Was crazy excited when they announced austin would get a team (I'm from austin), but sad to see it's just Austin FC
Yeah I don’t mind having a bit of both, but do prefer the sounders/Timbers/earthquake, etc, over the Austin fc/Nashville FC… some feel like it works better than others to me like sporting KC or NYCFC, both feel appropriate
I may not be a big MLS fan, but I love the fact that North Carolina has a team
United in Manchester was also because of the merger of teams in the Manchester area. Which I believe is the case for most United teams in England
Yeah, it definitely makes sense historically! So many things with names seem to lose their meeting after time, but had actual purpose like 100 years ago lol
That isn't true, Newton Heath LYR FC was renamed to Manchester United FC without merging with any club to try and represent a United city of Manchester and to compete with the already renamed Manchester City FC, they copied the name from Sheffield United and Newcastle United, Sheffield United was founded by a cricket club of the same name which is the first recorded English sports club to use the United name meanwhile Newcastle United was formed from the merger of Newcastle East End FC with Newcastle West End FC and to my knowledge is the only major club that uses United to signify the merger of two clubs into one as opposed to it signifying a United city or area.
It's actually interesting seeing this as a European. Thanks for the video :D
Thanks for checking it out!!
Technically, RB Leipzig didn't exist yet in 2006, since Red Bull only bought the right to FC Markranstädt (the original club that RB Leipzig formed out of) in 2009. So, when New York Red Bull was initiated, RB Leipzig didn't exist yet.
Rb in rb Leipzig is official for razen ball Leipzig since in Germany it's illegal to name a team after a product placement
Great video. But kind of sad seeing all the uncreative names for the latest teams.
Thanks for checking it out!
Fr man the names are so bland
S.C. can also be Sports Club. Meanwhile C.S. is usually going to be Club Sportivo.
The Los Angeles Galaxy's name is also fitting for two more reasons: it's the most popular and most recognizable MLS club in the world, and it's the MLS club with the most high-profile DP signings. David Beckham, Robbie Keane, Landon Donovan, Alexi Lalas, Steven Gerrard, Zlatan Ibrahimović, the dos Santos brothers, Jorge Campos, and most recently, Chicharito, are playing/have played for the club. Ruud Gullit was the head coach/manager at one point. It also had notable footballers like Andrew Shue (Hollywood actor who played for the Galaxy in its 1st season while also being a regular cast member of the TV series _Melrose Place_ ), Robbie Rogers (1st openly gay man to play for a top-flight professional North American sports team), and Jonathan Klinsmann (2nd choice goalkeeper and son of former USMNT head coach/manager Jürgen Klinsmann).
Interestingly enough, the Galaxy's popularity echoes the New York Cosmos' popularity in its heyday (astronomy-related team name, based in a major US city, international recognition, signing the most star players out of any club like Péle, Franz Beckenbauer, Carlos Alberto, and Giorgio Chinaglia).
Only thing is, it’s not in Los Angeles:/
@@jairosoto3445 Neither were the Old NASL-era New York Cosmos, who played at Giants Stadium in New Jersey back in their heyday.
@@jmal thanks for the random fun fact
I hate how San Diego it going to be called fc they could have had a dope name
Yeah I wish more teams would go with the classic MLS teams now! I feel like initially the wave of FC/SC/Real/Sporting/United etc names felt fresh, now there's way too many of them, need more of the creative names!
California's fault lines do NOT collide against each other. Instead, one side is going north and the other side is going south.
9:34 that is my Wednesday night show on NBC
Haha true!
@@JustinLearnsThings yeah I got you
@@JustinLearnsThings and I pranked you too
I kinda hate that the MLS teams wanted to become more like European soccer and not their own thing. DC United should have been the only team with such name. All these FCs and SCs and other Uniteds just don't feel right. KC should have still been the Wizards, Montreal should have still been the Impact, and so on. While some of the nicknames weren't great, they were certainly more fun and fitting for North American sports and may have been better for growth of the league from casual soccer fans in my opinion.
Austin FC was a fallback plan because the owner tried to sneak Columbus Crew out of town with a hidden clause. After blowback from Columbus fans and the rest of MLS, the league gave Precourt a discounted purchase and Austin jumped the other teams that were in the middle of those expansion talks, to include Sacramento, San Diego, and San Antonio.
Yeah, that’s a good point! I remember watching from a far when they were trying to move Columbus and was really glad to see it stay!
American football teams: copy and borrow ideas from existing baseball names
American soccer teams: copy and borrow ideas from existing European soccer teams
Pretty much!
The Tampa Bay pirate theme ends pretty quickly when you realize the Lightning and Rays (formerly the Devil Rays) don't follow the scheme
Fair!
@@JustinLearnsThings it's like they had an idea but gave up
The whole FC vs SC divide is kinda funny.
Maybe it's because I'm more of an American sports fan than global soccer one, but I prefer the MLS trying to be more unique and not copying other Soccer teams. Go with SC and use a real team name.
Yeah I like the unique names too! Sounders, Timbers, galaxy… something very MLS about names like that and I dig it!
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Thanks for the great video; I learned a lot, even about my own club.
Thank you for checking it out!
I gotta be honest - I don't love this trend that Real Salt Lake started by just mimicking the naming conventions around the world. LAFC, Inter Miami, Nashville FC, FC Cincinnati, etc. are such boring names compared to the LA Galaxy, Seattle Sounders, Portland Timbers, New England Revolution. It reminds me of Cool Runnings when they count in German to try to emulate the "seriousness" of the German squad. Pish posh. Be yourselves and have some damn personality!
HAHA nice cool runnings reference! Yeah all of those names are great ones. I especially love the cascadia team names!
💯 Be your own thing, don't try to copy others
Couldn't disagree more. Mascots and gimmick names are childish North American oddities. I love the idea of European teams being defined by pride for their city, not a bird or "fearsome" animal. FC, Real and City teams are for refreshing to see for North America.
@@Kevin-yh5br Actually, we use both the city name (or other region) *and* a cool nickname in other North American sports leagues. Naming teams only after the city and the sport itself is boring and lame, just like many of the MLS teams have done!
@@Compucles To me nicknames should be organic. If my club had been named Seattle FC people STILL would have called them the Sounders. Because that was organic. Also you instantly know what sport a team called CityName FC plays. In the US, a crowded sports market, that should not be lost on anyone. MLS isn't stupid. They knew they needed to change and stand out and they have and are.
For the Atlanta United logo was inspired by our railroad history and the western and Atlantic railroad locomotive the general a beautiful 4-4-0 American class
I’d have called them “Terminus FC .” But that’s just me.
The crew aren't a founding club, they're THE Founding club as in charter member #1
ToMAYto, ToMAHto
@@MarloSoBalJrFair enough
I was working at a sports apparel retailer in Miami when Inter Miami was in the startup phases for their first match. I don’t follow soccer so I had literally no idea what I was looking at when I opened a box of pink and black jerseys 😂
Haha I bet that was pretty unexpected!
2:35 Saying New Zealand (and likely Australia) call football "soccer" is a very quick way to poor gasoline onto an on-going argument.
Edit: From what I can tell most football clubs in NZ are either FC or AFC (this is definite for the thirty clubs in NZs top division qualifier leagues)
Haha I may have accidentally waded into some deep waters! 😅🤐
In NZ and Australin they DO call soccer soccer.
@@tommytrinder.1226 I live in New Zealand and call it both, primarily football. I have friends who'll get pretty annoyed at you if you call it soccer. Trust me it is very much an on going argument here.
@@DynoKea It's an ongoing argument in parts of the US. Probably Canada and most of the places mentioned.
If you ever make corrections to this video, NSC did not get to retain their logo when entering MLS.
You gotta feel bad for MLS. When they started they felt compelled to have "American" names in order to stand out and not look like they're pandering...but they choose very 90s names and logos and got ridiculed over it (I mean do you want to support the Wiz?). Then they overcorrected by going "traditional" and choose names that sound European but devoid of history or logic (nothing royal over Real Salt Lake, why are we placing FC in front when the names are in English?). Now it seems every team only has a choice between "United", "City" or just FC 😂 and fans are complaining about the generic naming convention.
And then we have my team: Club Internacional de Futbol Miami which is awkward because the short form of "Inter Miami CF" makes no sense. /Traditional naming convention states that CF stands for "Club de Futbol" which is fine to translate into "Football Club" without the "de" (because "of" is implied in English; no need to say the "Club of Football".)
HOWEVER the International part comes in the middle of CF in the long form name, and thus it really should be CIF Miami because it implies that the name of the club isn't International but that word "Internacional" is instead an adjective to the type of club it is or in other words using literal translation: International Club of Football or in more common English, International Football Club.
TL;DR I'm just blabbing to say Inter Miami should have been named Club de Futbol Internacional de Miami if they really cared about Spanish or whatever marketing slant they went with.
Haha thanks for the rant! I enjoyed it! 😂
My eye twitches every time he says "The MLS"
L.A GALAXY… good name for the club good background…
Hello hello any chance to you make a video explaining all names of the women's soccer clubs, folded or not? Good video, congrats!
Yeah that’d be great I’ll put it on the list!
I love the irony in Dynamo FC name. A name that suggest "comunist" team in Texas!!!!!
Also, 1 MLS team is still there that played in the old NASL (North American Soccer League) from around the 60s-80s - Vancouver Whitecaps.