Dell DIDN’T Screw Me Over - $1500 PC Secret Shopper 3 Part 1

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  • @nerd_mor
    @nerd_mor 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1895

    I work for Dell and can tell you that "we can't be this bad the next time Linus makes a secret shopper video" was a point raised in at least one meeting

    • @axef
      @axef 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

      can you please also explain why every dell pc i've ever used has had the worst cooling possible pretty please

    • @nerd_mor
      @nerd_mor 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +175

      @@axef I've since quit the company, but I have fmcomplained internally about the same thing. The response that I got was "if you want to go to the limit, you should be buying Alienware"

    • @millanferende6723
      @millanferende6723 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What if I don't want the LED lights? Can I take the $200 off the price tag then?@@nerd_mor

    • @AzarokGames
      @AzarokGames 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      @@nerd_mor thats gotta be the worse answer ever, but sadly not surprised by it at all xD
      cheers for the insights

    • @axef
      @axef 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@nerd_mor funnily enough i did go alienware after my G5 proved to be a waste of money - apparently a 10900F with one exhaust fan and a casefan strapped to a heatsink posing as an aircooler is "the limit" for them? regardless thanks for the reply, i've started recommending everyone i know to avoid dell at all costs

  • @scarletspidernz
    @scarletspidernz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +712

    21:17 As someone who's worked in call centers for several years if you hear a agent breathing or can hear background noise, please advise them in a friendly way as generally we don't often have a way of telling if our mics or other hardware need to be adjusted. Call centers often use budget gear vs whats used in studios broadcast, so it makes things worse.
    Nothings worse than going through a whole call or even several and then being told about it, often breathing issues are just the mouth piece being too close so easy to fix by moving it away unless its a crappy af headset

    • @CheeseManFuu
      @CheeseManFuu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      The real paranoia is wondering just how long it's happened, too. Once you hear it once you're paranoid forever about it. Fortunately the one I'm at now has a way to review calls and I will sometimes to confirm details when I leave notation (medical, so we *have* to notate everything significant) but I also know a lot don't have that fortune, let alone the time to even look back at calls at some places.

    • @furrybproductions
      @furrybproductions 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Seriously, a heads up is appreciated. Nobody wants to pickup a phone to help a customer while sounding like Jigsaw.

    • @furrybproductions
      @furrybproductions 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@CheeseManFuu if you can, try to do playback at the end of each shift. Your director has heard most of the calls of the day so they can find the funny ones and it makes for a good team building exercise. At least this way you can laugh about all the rude ass people telling you to unalive yourself.

    • @AlphaMachina
      @AlphaMachina 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      When I worked at a call center, our software had a meter on screen so you get a direct 1:1 visual representation of what your voice sounds like. If you see it spike when you're exhaling, then adjust the mic until it isn't anymore. It was just convenient way to properly adjust your mic. Edit: Plus our mics had foam windscreens on them and I never heard my breath like that even when it was right under my nose.

    • @BenJaded
      @BenJaded 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That makes a lot of sense, but I'm curious why you wouldn't have a monitor of that or regular check ins? Potentially ignorant question ^^;

  • @ColaBeGaming
    @ColaBeGaming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +761

    That HP rep was genuinely over the moon happy to not have another demanding jerk on the line. I don't even think the discount she offered is something they'd offer to anyone, Shea just made her day and it was a beautiful human interaction.

    • @ashryver3605
      @ashryver3605 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      You end up getting a lot of these kinda things if you're friendly to sales reps online and foster a semi-personal (brief, obviously) connection. Being receptive, etc.

    • @MrwhoosethebossTechTips
      @MrwhoosethebossTechTips 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I Work For HP

    • @sneakycactus8815
      @sneakycactus8815 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@MrwhoosethebossTechTipsgonna elaborate?

    • @BD-zg7is
      @BD-zg7is หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ashryver3605 yeah seriously. even if you are super pissed off you still need to be a nice person. it works well 99% of the time.

  • @BlackTearsYT
    @BlackTearsYT 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +352

    The interpersonal skills and customer service instincts from that HP rep are some of the best I've seen in this series. She's so sincere and a pleasure to talk to. It's a shame that HP is doing such a disservice to her in terms of training about the technical aspect. Hope she can eventually land somewhere that better leverages her talents!

    • @ashryver3605
      @ashryver3605 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The difference of offshore Indian call centres vs Filipinos or Indonesians from SEA.

    • @HackAcadmey
      @HackAcadmey 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@ashryver3605I thought she was Indian too, very northern Indian accent.

    • @Paras-ot2qo
      @Paras-ot2qo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ashryver3605 dell , hp sounds very Indian/pak

    • @ashryver3605
      @ashryver3605 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@HackAcadmey my original comment meaning the girl in this case was likely filipino, indonesian accent is very telling but so is filipino + attitude in this case especially

    • @johncarlomactal7880
      @johncarlomactal7880 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Paras-ot2qo absolutely filipino believe me haha. im from philippines

  • @joeyo2365
    @joeyo2365 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2051

    @ the HP rep, having worked in a technical support call center basically, I would also thank this customer for being kind. Y’all would be shocked how literally NO ONE is this kind.

    • @Invrexs
      @Invrexs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      Im always nice wym :( always saying thank you and being polite n shit lol

    • @dturbo306
      @dturbo306 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +155

      Had to ring the UK Ankle Monitor Tracking Centre on behalf of a friend as he lost his charger. When I said “thank you have a goodnight” she started stammering like she was in shock and was really happy with her response.
      It must be hard to deal with people all day

    • @1989DieJay
      @1989DieJay 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      Technical support call center is the worst you can imagine. The product is bad, you are at fault and the costumer/caller is the victim and did nothing wrong.

    • @DJDocsVideos
      @DJDocsVideos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      Sadly that's what 1st level support is all about. People don't call because they are happy, they call because the are pissed and you happen to be the face or rather voice of the thing that pisses 'em off. Also doesn't help that half of the script you have to work from is less than calming to even the kindest person.

    • @DJDocsVideos
      @DJDocsVideos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@1989DieJay try credit card or anything essential to people. The more something is needed the greater the anger.

  • @elfwyn8707
    @elfwyn8707 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1745

    I personally like that they did not try to close the deal on the phone. I often feel pressured when interacting with a sales person and kind of feel a bit obligated to make the transaction. I prefer to have a bit of time off the phone to think about everything and do the final step with a clear mind. I would feel more at ease buying a computer from those companies.

    • @RandomTheories
      @RandomTheories 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

      this, completely agree!

    • @DeterminedFC
      @DeterminedFC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      thats the point tho ...closing the sale isnt to benefit the customer its to benefit your business.
      edit : no its about who provides the best overall experience... customer service is just one component (important component )
      hence why linus was calling them out for their business model.
      to play devils advocate what if customer cant find the agreed product and isnt competent in navigating their website ..could end up with the wrong product or nothing altogether.

    • @itskdog
      @itskdog 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +124

      ​@@DeterminedFC but isn't this series about who provides the best customer experience?

    • @scarletspidernz
      @scarletspidernz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      Yeah totally I'm glad it's shifted away from closing the deal. As a business person Linus wants those sales hence his line for closing the deal, as a Customer most of us want to do things at our own time without pressures.

    • @Fenderbenne
      @Fenderbenne 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      @@DeterminedFC probably from the wrong field, but as a PC Tech consumer/buyer and retail worker - the best costumer for business isn't the one that buys one thing, its the one that feels non-pressured and supported and comes back multiple times. I have several stores I avoid like the plauge despite their deals, and I have multiple costumers that daily my store despite the occasional mishap and price differencal.

  • @Bugo96
    @Bugo96 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    Salesperson: “hi how are you doing today?”
    Linus: “that’s a REALLY good question”

  • @Thewaterspirit57
    @Thewaterspirit57 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    When they say “you’re the nicest person to call today” and is grateful for that call…. It just kinda hits you that they’re just a regular person going about the grind 😭
    I hope that lady will have a great year tbh.

  • @nicoferrari8
    @nicoferrari8 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4729

    I'm pleasantly surprised, everyone did so much better than last time. Also that HP rep was so sweet I almost got diabetes hahahah.

    • @23Shadowfox23
      @23Shadowfox23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +265

      She sounds a bit young and just started working there, but she's very nice :)

    • @maevwat
      @maevwat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      😂😂

    • @NEPAAlchey
      @NEPAAlchey 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +309

      ​@@23Shadowfox23He soul hasn't been crushed yet. Hopefully she finds a better job before they corrupt her faith in humanity.

    • @philcabauatan9089
      @philcabauatan9089 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

      bruh she sounds like a filipino

    • @huor1990
      @huor1990 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      @@philcabauatan9089 huh someone else chaught on the accent when she was mentioning the model names huh? :D I thought the same thing.

  • @Rondre
    @Rondre 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +883

    That HP sales rep was so nice. It's the highlight of the video. She is so friendly and nice you can't help but smile. Love that

    • @EpicgamerwinXD6669
      @EpicgamerwinXD6669 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      All the HP sales reps in this series have been great actually.

    • @satyamedh
      @satyamedh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      sales rep people are really calm for how much crap they get ngl. Props to her for staying nice after such a day

    • @fncrazy101
      @fncrazy101 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Definitely ❤

    • @kuebby
      @kuebby 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      I almost feel like the discount that appeared at the end was just because she liked Shea.

    • @EpicgamerwinXD6669
      @EpicgamerwinXD6669 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@kuebby entirely possible! Maybe the Rep "bought" the computer for Shea using her employee discount as a thank you for talking to her.

  • @lordadamfirst
    @lordadamfirst 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +269

    I did my internship with Bosch in the UK, I did a stint in their tech support department. Part of that involved giving advice on what model of boiler is best for the customer. I never realised how good their training & support structure is until seeing you do secret shopper for PCs. Even as someone with no interest in boilers or heating I was able to get support and use their systems to give advice or get someone to call back if needed.

    • @Aleksi-ry3ni
      @Aleksi-ry3ni 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Yeah, quite easy. You need to know your product, and if you ain't self tought it is up for the guide to give the answers. I bet bosch had some quite good ones, have used their car diagnostics and that has been good times.

  • @lily_skye
    @lily_skye 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    NZXT guy recommending the CPU upgrade actually makes a lot of sense for Minecraft. Java Edition is extremely CPU-bound, especially with mods. Every little bit helps.

  • @seankkg
    @seankkg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8500

    Never in a million years would I ever expect not just a Monk reference, but an entire Monk-themed episode. One of the best shows of all time.

    • @jamesmiddleton4741
      @jamesmiddleton4741 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +183

      YES my favorite detective show!!

    • @itsabe90
      @itsabe90 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

      I thought so man monk was good

    • @_gaminggeneral_2942
      @_gaminggeneral_2942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      I was just watching Monk lol

    • @jmtradbr
      @jmtradbr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      It was a good show. I remember watching it years ago on TV

    • @jacobdoestuff9851
      @jacobdoestuff9851 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

      Techlinked regularly has monk joked

  • @somedude6351
    @somedude6351 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +901

    It's crazy how much better all these companies have gotten. The difference between Secret Shopper 1 and 2 and this one is massive. I hope you guys continue this series and continues to raise the bar

    • @ml210993
      @ml210993 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I hope they raise a bear.

    • @kaisersoymilk6912
      @kaisersoymilk6912 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I think they smelled them out. How many people buys computers blindly on the phone? Seriously.

    • @AngelicHunk
      @AngelicHunk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kaisersoymilk6912 Considering many of these companies have *dedicated* departments for sales service, including calls, you'd be ignorant to think not many people do-maybe not a large percentage of the whole population, but certainly enough individuals to justify these departments existing.

    • @Creepernom
      @Creepernom 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@kaisersoymilk6912 Who teaches all of their customer service staff to look out for a slightly suspicious customer who could be from Secret Shopper, especially when the last episode was 2 years ago? That's completely unreasonable and unrealistic.

    • @Flash_345
      @Flash_345 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@kaisersoymilk6912extremely out of touch question. I know a lot of people who do it.

  • @AwSamWeston
    @AwSamWeston 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    I love how the reps have different problems this time around! Compared to the up-charges in past Secret Shopper rounds, "Close the sale!" is a good problem to have.

  • @ryans413
    @ryans413 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    The HP girl is a good employee. She sounded like she was excited to help the person on the phone. Need more people like her.

    • @Frawt
      @Frawt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      For real. The HP segment was just so unbelievably adorable. I want to give that HP girl a hug for just how good of a mood she put me in.

    • @WhirlwindHeatAndFlash
      @WhirlwindHeatAndFlash 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      id rather have someone competent at what they do than waste my time with someone "nice" but incompetent.

    • @jmal
      @jmal หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash That's outsourced call centers for you. "Nice," but otherwise useless because the CSRs are hamstrung by policy and disincentivized to go above and beyond protocol. The worst part is: this is _by design._

  • @MrDummyisDumb
    @MrDummyisDumb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1526

    In my experience, customers hate when businesses close the deal like he suggested. People feel as though they're being rushed which brings feelings of being taken advantage of and only cared about for a commission. Personally I think a lot of the reps did really well in that manner.

    • @iris4547
      @iris4547 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +290

      yep linus moved from customer experience to business man real quick on that one. hes a bit out of touch. if any of them tried to close the sale with me on the phone id hang up on them and then shop a different brand.

    • @poundkake13
      @poundkake13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

      AGREED! I don't want to be told or persuaded what to do. In a customer service agent, I want answers to my questions and someone to help me with the transaction if I ask for it. No pressure for me = way better chance of a sale.

    • @samuraininjamaster
      @samuraininjamaster 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      For real, just wanted to yell stfu at Linus about that

    • @TheCnf
      @TheCnf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      I absolutely agree. Closing the deal is usually a bad move for the reason you mentioned. I was about to write the comment myself, and found you already took the letters out of my keyboard.

    • @frostyfeet8653
      @frostyfeet8653 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      I think you may be making an assumption about what “closing the deal” means. It does not mean forcing the customer to only order with you over the phone, nor does it mean being pushy in any way. It could be as simple as saying “I’d be happy to help you place that order if it’s convenient for you.” I can pretty much guarantee you wouldn’t “hang up on and shop somewhere else” if someone offered to go through checkout with you after you just spent 20 minutes picking out a computer with them.

  • @minecrafter0505
    @minecrafter0505 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +984

    Regarding "Closing the deal", I think this comes down to the vibe the customer gives the rep as well. I think that subtle hints can influence whether or not they will stay on line with the customer and Notalie often ended the call in a way that suggested she wants to do the checkout on her own, so the reps did that. I don't think they did anything wrong by not staying on the line and making sure the deal is closed.

    • @kuebby
      @kuebby 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      Maybe they edited it out, but even if she indicates she can check out online, it seems a little odd not to offer, "Would you like me to complete the transaction for you as long as we're talking? I have the model we discussed ready to check out."

    • @ReivecS
      @ReivecS 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      As someone that has worked in a call center selling computers, you need to close it on the call. You don't have to be pushy about it, it can be as simple as saying, "I am happy to wait on the line as you checkout in case any problems or questions come up". If they leave without buying there is a 50% chance that that person gets distracted and moves on to something else.

    • @dude11579
      @dude11579 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

      @@kuebby As far as the customer support rep completing the transaction on their end, there are many companies that have moved away from that due to liability. At my employer (which is a fairly large retail clothing company) we aren't even able to key in card numbers if we wanted to because the company decided the risk of employees stealing information was more dangerous than the risk of pissing off the occasional rare customer that wants to buy something over the phone.

    • @DedmenMiller
      @DedmenMiller 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      I could imagine if the sales reps are told to close the deal, that would lead to a "sold the most computers" metric that promotes internal competition for selling the most, which would be to the detriment of the customer.

    • @ReivecS
      @ReivecS 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@DedmenMiller Companies can't stay in business or offer support if they aren't selling, so it is a pretty important step to close. And just like any job there will be people that are good at it and people that are bad. So you are going to have customer complaints regardless. I wouldn't focus on NOT selling, I would focus on training and/or removing people that are good in that role. A support rep may have no sales duties but you can sure as hell find people complaining about the support they get. I don't think the customer satisfaction argument holds any water, personally.

  • @Icepaul017
    @Icepaul017 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Take it from me , someone who has been a salesperson for the last 6 years, cyberpower got it bang on , as it doesn't pressure the customer, and then causes possible complaints or returns . Especially when its over the phone sales.
    But again LTT group. Amazing work thank you
    (Btw I'm based in the UK ) 😅

    • @wta1518
      @wta1518 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm so sorry to hear that you're in the UK. I hope you get better soon.

  • @englishoat
    @englishoat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    A little surprised that Origin didn't at least mention about the financing options as an possible way to consider to help with the budget. A horrible flash back from when I worked in sales was to always ensure the customer was aware of montly payment options as a way to try to get their budget up a little more to something suitable for thier needs

  • @wecrashgames
    @wecrashgames 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5109

    Dude from NZXT had the best point of mentioning the resolution!

    • @MarkElf2204
      @MarkElf2204 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +180

      It's a good question but anyone having to call customer support more than likely has a 1080p monitor.

    • @SaurusPlay
      @SaurusPlay 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +279

      ​@@MarkElf2204 not really, people can be editors or graphic designers, so they may have good monitors but not really be tech savvy

    • @wecrashgames
      @wecrashgames 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      @MarkElf2204 Good point! But if i was working there, i would probably ask the same thing, Cause if the customer wants 4K gaming, then i would suggest systems with a high-end gpu, same as 1080P.
      Overall, you gotta learn the customer, And it's definitely hard

    • @theBabyDead
      @theBabyDead 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MarkElf2204 That's not true.
      Marketing has passed 1080p years ago. There's more computer noobs with 4K or QHD screens I know than tech savy people with them. They just buy a monitor that gets a lot of advertisement regardless of any specs.

    • @tech360gamer
      @tech360gamer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah for sure, that question is overlooked too often.

  • @lordelliott42
    @lordelliott42 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +751

    I felt like Shea implied she did not want them on the phone with her while she did the credit card stuff to "close the deal", and that's why they didn't try to keep her on the phone. I think it's good that they respected that.

    • @HazmatGamer9842
      @HazmatGamer9842 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

      That, and also unlike the larger name brands such as HP, their job is to assist the customer in finding an ideal PC, verses selling a PC

    • @Brandon-uy1uv
      @Brandon-uy1uv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yea, I had the same thought

    • @HangryOne
      @HangryOne 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

      I actually like that they weren't pressuring to close the deal. Obviously from a business standpoint you might want to get a for sure sale, but the fact they let their products stand on their own and just let the customer make their own decision was nice to see. I've dealt with pushy sales people and it immediately turned me off from their product. I'm on the phone with you right now, but maybe I want to think about it for a bit before I drop $1500.

    • @charpool169
      @charpool169 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      ​@@HangryOneya I don't really know how more "closed" of a deal linus expected them to get after it was clearly stated ok now I'm just going to fill out my purchase info.

    • @DatHombre
      @DatHombre 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@HazmatGamer9842Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking. Definitely sounds like they don't get commission on sales/have any quota n thus aren't incentivized to really make sure they "seal the deal"- presumably just get paid by the hour to help assist people with anything support related. If that's actually not the case for any of these tho then that would make the customer support even more impressive/surprising!

  • @Silverwidows
    @Silverwidows 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    That HP rep needs a bonus, but also a weeks training on gaming PCs. They were great, I was even smiling on how good of a rep they were

  • @ProvencalG
    @ProvencalG 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Really one of my favorites series of anything on YT. This edition seems amazing, Shea is perfect for the role!
    Episode 1 and we can already see how your videos must have made an impact on the user experience ordering from those companies.

  • @chuckz253
    @chuckz253 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +592

    I hope HP sees this and gives that rep the support she needs and a raise cuz she deserves it, in the effort she puts in.

    • @brandobond
      @brandobond 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      They will probably fire her for discounting the computer after the sale was closed! But hopefully I am wrong.

    • @ihateeveryone8161
      @ihateeveryone8161 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      @@brandobond Doubtful, most of these companys are prioritizing customer support and satisfaction alot more after LTT and other Tech influencers have been doing these secret shoppers, getting a bad one of these can be extroninarily damaging to sales, the loss on some discounts is literally nothing in comparsion too the damage Linus alone can do to their sales if he shows millions of people a poor customer experience.

    • @emma70707
      @emma70707 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ihateeveryone8161, I do worry about her job a little bit because it probably was against policy. But I agree that it would look very bad for them if they fired her and she put this out on social media, so it's probably not worth it.
      And I suspect you're correct, because the people watching LTT are very likely to give recommendations to their friends on where to buy their next gaming computer.

    • @Oscar4u69
      @Oscar4u69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      ​@@brandobond
      yeah, imagine getting fired for selling and doing the stuff you're supposed to do 😑

    • @geodescent
      @geodescent 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      "Sorry, Cogito says you didn't empathize 6 times; you're fired"

  • @willdavis2716
    @willdavis2716 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1104

    Outside of the old scrapyard wars the secret shopper series is my favorite type of content you guys do.

    • @joelireland5477
      @joelireland5477 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      They need to do a modern day scrapyard

    • @lightsiders2109
      @lightsiders2109 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joelireland5477oh man do i have news for you

    • @acoolrocket
      @acoolrocket 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@joelireland5477 True, now that GPU prices are back to sanity after the near all-hope-is-lost 2020-2021 period.

    • @side_character_c1787
      @side_character_c1787 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@nateg452 he also just said on wan show 2 weeks ago that they are planning a reboot

    • @baileycorona1133
      @baileycorona1133 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ive been thinking this for a long time now@@joelireland5477

  • @tr1033
    @tr1033 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The HP Agent was just amazing!!!
    What a nice and warm interaction.

  • @grunglegamer8275
    @grunglegamer8275 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    someone needs to find the hp rep lady and give her a bonus and more internal resources!! Its awesome to hear someone who really cares about not only helping but making sure you're happy all the way through!

  • @davidgoncalvesalvarez
    @davidgoncalvesalvarez 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +494

    HP’s rep was sooo cute. She seems like a really nice person.
    The starforge email is amazing.
    Damm, this time customer sales has improved a lot, wow. Nice job guys.

    • @theatlastech8792
      @theatlastech8792 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      I think Starforge has Charlie himself working email support.

    • @TheGodfather_only
      @TheGodfather_only 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@theatlastech8792 tbh its easy to read it with his voice in mind xD

    • @callummcneill6266
      @callummcneill6266 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      too bad HP is terrible at warranty claims

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Cute voice but objectively she was the least knowledgeable of all the reps.

    • @Chronizoul
      @Chronizoul 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Mannerism and speech pattern sounds like she's from the Philippines

  • @Respectable_Username
    @Respectable_Username 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +820

    30:05 Actually, because she mentioned Minecraft, Minecraft (Edit: Java edition) specifically is limited by single thread CPU performance, so upgrading CPU to one with a higher clock speed is _exactly_ the right answer for her specific requirements 😊

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Actually, I think nowadays, Minecraft is multi-threaded, but I could be wrong. With that said though, if you're gonna play older versions of Minecraft like 1.12.2, then yeah, it doesn't matter, you'll need high single-threaded performance.

    • @RealAmaranth
      @RealAmaranth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

      @@arnox4554 Minecraft will definitely use more than one thread but on the client those are just for turning chunks into meshes for the GPU. If you're playing singleplayer it'll use threads for chunk generation too but most of your CPU work for a given tick happens on a single thread and you'll hit the limit of what that single thread can process well before you run out of cores for the side stuff so long as you have at least 4 cores.

    • @miciso666
      @miciso666 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      that sounds nice. my friend said minecraft mostly relies on good ram.
      the more u got the more u can mod around. i had a rig with 4gb. and it kept crashing. until my friend slapped in 16gb.
      and suddenly no more crashes :D

    • @1unar_eclipse
      @1unar_eclipse 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@miciso666 Modded anything seems to be extremely RAM-intensive (cough Terraria), but I have noticed good RAM helps a lot in Bedrock in some cases

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RealAmaranth Got it. Thanks!

  • @crazygameboy0013
    @crazygameboy0013 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Monk is literally my favorite TV show and I never expected you to ever even look at monk’s direction

  • @sharpenednoodles
    @sharpenednoodles 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    "Really low pressure, I like that" - Linus
    "CLOSE THE DAMN DEAL" - Also Linus

  • @SerrinTheElf
    @SerrinTheElf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +788

    I love that HP rep! She had no clue about computers but she NAILED that customer service! Awesome person! Great job, you! :)

    • @weenusdeletus8068
      @weenusdeletus8068 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      her name is amy

    • @AC3handle
      @AC3handle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      @@weenusdeletus8068 and HOW do you know this, and WHY do you feel the need to tell people on here?

    • @thedemotivationalspeaker3090
      @thedemotivationalspeaker3090 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      If I could tip people over the phone I'd tip her.

    • @sporemaster97
      @sporemaster97 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@AC3handle She probably said it when she answered the phone, genius

    • @MarwinEwert
      @MarwinEwert 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@sporemaster97 its blipped out both times the name was called, but yeah, it does sound like "Amy"

  • @secret-alias
    @secret-alias 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1056

    I can understand why they don't close the deals on the phone actually.
    Many people today are worried about sharing card information over the phone, it's a lot safer to say "We never take card payments over the phone" to avoid scams. Additionally, it ensures that the customer is satisfied that they are seeing the same deals as everyone else and aren't being ripped off with an over the phone price.
    I can see a flipside here, whereby customer service says "If you wanted to go ahead and purchase now, I can offer you an online voucher for X% off, or £30 of £300", to incentivise the purchase, that helps close a deal without the "over the phone" hassle.

    • @alexis_angel
      @alexis_angel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

      Can also be to reduce the queue times on phone

    • @DarthSidious7
      @DarthSidious7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

      Closing the deal doesn't necessarily have to mean asking for card information or offering discounts. Even though she said she was already on the site and ready to check out on her own, a simple "I can stay on the line and help you out in case you have any questions or face any trouble while checking out", or even a question like "would you like me to hang around a bit to answer any follow up questions you might have?" go a long way in providing a good sales experience to the customer while also doing good for the business. Both Dell and HP did a decent enough job here.

    • @secret-alias
      @secret-alias 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DarthSidious7 you make a fair point! 🌟🫡

    • @Evie0133
      @Evie0133 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      uhhh what? She was on the website and all that reps need to do is to make sure that she just bought the computer lol

    • @lancelindlelee7256
      @lancelindlelee7256 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Also, that discount could be a code unique to the sales rep. Would track how well they are doing.

  • @Jzwiz
    @Jzwiz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    i love this series, i know you cant do it often but i cant wait for the next parts. Starforge offering the higher end isnt a bad thing, they are just saying “hey, if you stream you may wanna save up for this instead but heres also one in your current budget.”

  • @SolamenteTavo
    @SolamenteTavo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As a call center employee I understand the "mistakes" because specially in sales there is changes every day and most call centers are outsourcing

  • @anthonyewell3470
    @anthonyewell3470 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1570

    Dell actually didn't mess up yet this time. Origin is the new Dell. HP girl is about to get poached by a therapy practice. NZXT guy is about to get a promotion. Starforge email goes crazy. This is gonna be an interesting series

    • @Lizlodude
      @Lizlodude 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

      In fairness to Origin, their stuff isn't cheap, but they definitely could have worded that a lot better 😅
      At least they didn't constantly pressure the customer for a warranty, and then just add it on anyways.

    • @anthonyewell3470
      @anthonyewell3470 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@Lizlodude True I'm just saying that because they didn't do to well on the first round the last times either. Now if they manage that warranty situation HO...LYY

    • @thekwoka4707
      @thekwoka4707 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Lizlodude could have also discussed increasing the budget and guiding her better to those cheapest options and making the case for them. Not too pushy, but at least helpful.

    • @leonro
      @leonro 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@thekwoka4707IMO it would have been better to explain that Origin is a boutique PC builder and that their offerings don't make much sense within those budget constraints. Then, the customer could have been directed towards Corsair PCs, given that they own Origin. Financing could have also been suggested, given that it's an option on their website. The Origin rep's explanation was poor (just like Shea/Natalie, lol) and rather unhelpful. Whether it's on the rep or on the business, it's not a good showing.

    • @Adroman100
      @Adroman100 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I have a feeling Starforge might be the new Origin in the $1500 PC market.

  • @danieltober8574
    @danieltober8574 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +824

    you should do a whale secret shopper, buying at like $4k and seeing what all they try to upgrade, seeing if the upgrades are actually best for the user or if they’re just taking advantage of the higher budget and pushing upgrades with bigger margins

    • @almc8445
      @almc8445 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      OMG love it!

    • @_aullik
      @_aullik 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Absolutely. Maybe reduce that a bit and go for 3k for more competition and let them talk you back up to 3.5k

    • @sireuchre
      @sireuchre 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I'd like to see other secret shopper series, for TVs (which would be an in person thing), for lower end solutions too - how often will someone push a person to a Chromebook when they need a Windows system, or push them into a slightly more expensive but not proportionally better system?

    • @Nemerson74
      @Nemerson74 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Lol at that point I would want her to just say UNLIMITED budget but say she just wants to play the same games and see if they try to make her buy a ridiculous PC.

    • @Skiman__
      @Skiman__ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As I’d such a customer wouldn’t want a tacky flashy system lol. If they don’t, there are many other regular high end systems

  • @topgun9666
    @topgun9666 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Just a side note. As someone who worked in sales/retail for years when I was younger, she SCREAMS I AM A SECRET SHOPPER. She was great but too much sounding off a script.

  • @marshalls951
    @marshalls951 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn't realise he was imitating monk untill he said he wanted to go somewhere cleaner, and did similar body language, I loved that show.
    Great job guys.

  • @Mister_P1999
    @Mister_P1999 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +489

    As someone who was a rep of HP (but on printers), I do agree that she needs more internal resources. The reference that we have are the same as the customer's, and the training that we receive is lacking. When it comes to getting help from others, it's a hit or miss. Kudos to the HP rep for helping Shea out on what computer she really needs despite of lacking resources.
    And just like last time, they reached a Filipino/a rep. Mabuhay, Philippines!

    • @xerxesYt123
      @xerxesYt123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Called it, i could instantly tell from the accent haha, Lesgooo, Mabuhay!

    • @malcolmgraves8209
      @malcolmgraves8209 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Mabuhay Sir!

    • @metanoia-tv4230
      @metanoia-tv4230 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Mabuhay ang Pilipino! Instantly knew with her accent and the way she said “Shea” lol

    • @KSCasareo
      @KSCasareo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ah yes! I knew she was Filipino from how she spoke too!

    • @v3xman
      @v3xman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I had a hunch that this might be Filipino because how kind and nice she talks to the customer.

  • @sanctuary7324
    @sanctuary7324 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +366

    I have got to say, Dell has came a LONG way, and I am sure the HP lady used whatever discretionary savings she can give for Shea for having such an awesome personality.

    • @VM-lt9wl
      @VM-lt9wl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      Yep, either some employee/friend pricing or more likely a weekly/daily~ish discount they are allotted- USUALLY those discounts would be used to upsale and convince a customer to buy something more expensive and seal the deal but this was AFTER the sale, that's just amazing, and will make a customer always remember that and WANT to come back to HP next time.
      Instead of a greed-driven tactic from corporate, this spread some much needed humanity :) (And I hope that HP realizes the long-term benefit and encourages this use of it!)

    • @ajohnson153
      @ajohnson153 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I still wouldn't buy one, but definitely an improvement.

    • @emma70707
      @emma70707 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@VM-lt9wl, yeah, 100% used her friends and family discount. It always pays to be nice to customer service staff. I really hope she doesn't get in trouble for this...

    • @weenusdeletus8068
      @weenusdeletus8068 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      her name is amy

    • @VM-lt9wl
      @VM-lt9wl 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No here name is *BEEP* lol
      They confirmed in part two that this was a "friends and neighbors" discount. Cool!

  • @Anonymous-sb9rr
    @Anonymous-sb9rr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sales rep: The HP 25 liters...
    Linus: Am I buying milk?
    Milk cooled pc, anyone?

  • @vdigion530
    @vdigion530 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    rep :"Hi how may i help you ?"
    linus : "THAT A GREAT QUESTION !"

  • @sorappoli5137
    @sorappoli5137 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +914

    That HP rep was so sweet :')
    She definitely needs more training and knowledge on the PCs she recommends but she's done great.

    • @ShallowThought
      @ShallowThought 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      The knowledge is easy personality in lifelong training

    • @MrCharlieBros
      @MrCharlieBros 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      @@ShallowThought it took me 1 month to learn the processes perfectly, but 8 months to finally be empathetic and sympathetic with the customer, because oooh boy, is it hard to stop being sarcastic.

    • @GardenGuy1943
      @GardenGuy1943 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Manipulative is a better word. I don’t get fooled by that talk. She is just in it for the money. I’ve had enough experience with gold diggers to know a leech when I hear one.

    • @al_kaloid
      @al_kaloid 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      @@GardenGuy1943 Yikes..

    • @4Core100
      @4Core100 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      She was sweet with no knowledge because she was new. She wont be like this in a year, believe me. Customer service will change you...

  • @JWooden271
    @JWooden271 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    32:51 I recall from previous secret shopper series that Linus did suggest taking the attitude of "you can't afford it"... Interesting to see his reaction after Origin actually took that advice.

    • @fettolehart
      @fettolehart 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I agree, i was thinking that too glad to see someone else point it out.
      I wish Linus had mentioned that, i think thats the best approach. Id much prefer to be politely told you dont have anything within my budget than to get something that sucks.
      Gives me the immediate option of continuing to save or go somewhere else.

  • @kevincarlos973
    @kevincarlos973 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    In fairness to Starforge, they made it clear in the email that the Ultra was a better choice IF she was serious about streaming. A user who plans to frequently do simultaneous gaming and streaming would probably do well saving a bit more for a few months to get the beefier one.

  • @Ya_Mf_Boi
    @Ya_Mf_Boi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Seeing as starforge is owned by streamers, and is almost completely advertised through their streams, it would make sense that any customer contacting them and mentions streaming to be a part of what kind of computer they need, for the sales dude to go "hey if you're serious about pursuing streaming you can get something that much better fits your needs for 300 more"

  • @Emuney12
    @Emuney12 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +261

    I'll be honest, Dell has surprisingly improved this time. I mean the bar was already on the floor, but kudos for not pushing to upsell financing plans or warranties like before.

    • @itskdog
      @itskdog 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@GH0STST4RSCR34MWe still don't know if they still put 2 warranties on the product even though they said no, like last time. There's still time for them to fail hard.

  • @visualdarkness
    @visualdarkness 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +477

    The HP rep really needs to have a great boss that realize and help her grow her potential. She is one of those people that can make anyone have a great day and she just needs to be put in a situation where she can keep that enthusiasm and also get the technical training and tools to complement it!

    • @GardenGuy1943
      @GardenGuy1943 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That HP employee is manipulative at best. I don’t have the time or patience to listen to golddiggers try to pry money from my wallet. Too many Broads do that these days.

    • @visualdarkness
      @visualdarkness 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      @@GardenGuy1943 Who hurt you?

    • @marshaenderheart
      @marshaenderheart 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@visualdarkness look at that clown's other comments 💀

    • @miggywiggy
      @miggywiggy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@GardenGuy1943oh you’re actually commenting that vitriol on multiple threads huh. Did you order a mail order bride and got scammed or is this regular ole racism?

    • @_aullik
      @_aullik 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@miggywiggy Honestly i would be annoyed with that too. She clearly does not know what she is talking about but she is filling so much time with "sweet talk" but im not here for mental support, im here for actual advice.

  • @jamesrolton
    @jamesrolton 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    What just happened to part 2? Was marked private as I was watching

  • @303HQ
    @303HQ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    21:05 the subtitle effect here took me out lmaooo 😂

  • @jajssblue
    @jajssblue 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +250

    I love that the industry seems to be listening to the feedback. I still remember the awesomeness of the good calls from the 90s and 2000s. Honestly, I went with Dell for a long time because I lucked into talking to a rep who was clearly an enthusiast and talked me through everything. These calls make a difference to noobs. I do think it's smart that they offer to complete an order while they have you as long as it's not high pressure. And I prefer that they are erring on the side of lower pressure.

    • @iris4547
      @iris4547 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      i know multiple people that work at dell and own dell systems themselves (due to discounts) but you could not force me to ever own one myself. love their monitors, but their desktop pcs are an art in corner cutting. proprietary rubbish and poorly designed.

    • @teetehi
      @teetehi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@iris4547what's the point of your comment?

    • @iris4547
      @iris4547 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@teetehi trash talking dell, whats the point of yours?

    • @teetehi
      @teetehi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iris4547 I mean fair enough dell is shit but it's just completely useless point of mine was because I just wanted to see if it was ment to be a comment or a reply because a comment makes sense but a reply dont

    • @EntityVsEntityInteractions
      @EntityVsEntityInteractions 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@teetehi He is very clearly replying to the specific topic of Dell's Alienware line of desktop PCs. It has the same effective phrasing as "Hey, I understand that you love Dell - I have many friends who own Dell desktops, and I too own Dell monitors. However, Dell's current market strategy is anti-consumer; with the Alienware line being laden with Proprietary and Cheap parts that leads to an insufficient customer experience."
      However, that would be a rather wordy comment, and his summary was concise enough to aptly send the point across. Your seeming inability to understand that is rather indicative of your own lacking intelligence, and not to that of Iris4547. Perhaps, you should graduate secondary school before making such a snide remark?

  • @mightygreen3364
    @mightygreen3364 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1636

    Am I crazy, or was this over all much better than any previous secret shopper?

    • @gareth4348
      @gareth4348 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +357

      They all did way better, Dell especially but mostly because they sucked so bad last time

    • @trapical
      @trapical 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +501

      Linus said on the WAN show that after the last secret shopper, several of the companies emailed him and said they had completely revamped the training of their support staff.
      If so, it's good to see that videos like this can actually improve things for other customers.

    • @FireWyvern870
      @FireWyvern870 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@trapicalwhich wan show

    • @tonan8888
      @tonan8888 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

      @@FireWyvern870 The last Secret shopper episode was more than 2 yrs ago, so it would be hard for someone to tell which WAN show exactly...

    • @Joreel
      @Joreel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      It seemed like they all did much better this time with how they talked to Shea. With Origin PC, I do have to give them credit for being honest and not wasting her time as Origin PC is one of the most expensive Pre Built companies and they pretty much only cater to the high to very high end market.

  • @danielschulz4930
    @danielschulz4930 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I believe I am now on a Monk binge due to this. Thanks for reminding me of a great old show!

  • @johnqsak
    @johnqsak 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    32:00 REP "Awweeee You're POOOOOOR. "

  • @Masomqwwq
    @Masomqwwq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +312

    I would love to see a secret shopper where you approach the sales person with a more unique usecase, such as CAD modelling or video rendering, and seeing if reps are able to adapt or if they are just selling the gaming pc that most alligns with the given pricepoint

    • @Thiscave37013
      @Thiscave37013 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      Realistically speaking, anyone working on CAD software is going to be computer literate enough to buy their own computers.

    • @felipeaugustobatista6444
      @felipeaugustobatista6444 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      ​@@Thiscave37013 Its like driving a car, some people are great drivers but know nothing about engines. I work with CAE, lots of people that knows everything about our software but nothing about the hardware, "That is a problem for the IT people not us".

    • @BryanLu0
      @BryanLu0 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      ​@@Thiscave37013There is a substantial number of people who are software literate but not hardware literate. Don't underestimate people who stay in their own lane.

    • @pietroalessandrini
      @pietroalessandrini 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      to be honest I'm not sure these sites have enough variety on their product lineup to be so specific

    • @RAYNE0912
      @RAYNE0912 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I feel like this would be a weak point across the board. I work for an MSP and when our clients request systems for those uses they almost always either just email us a copy of the reccomended system requirements for the software they want to use, or they list the top 2 or 3 items from that same sheet. I can only imagine these sales lines get that same thing in most calls which means they can just use a filter on the webpage to find something that matches what the customer requested making it an easy point to skip training/resources.

  • @MeTheOneth
    @MeTheOneth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +126

    Wow, none of those OEM buying experiences outright pissed me off this time. Progress!

    • @666Tomato666
      @666Tomato666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      What? You didn't like to get financing for your financing for your extra support from Dell?!

  • @Panther520840
    @Panther520840 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    TOTALLY unexpected Monk crossover. Love it!

    • @AnthonyClarkPaladin
      @AnthonyClarkPaladin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      MONK is one of the best shows period. Traylor Howard is a goddess!

  • @jadesprite
    @jadesprite 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I literally just started watching part 2 when it was taken down...

    • @Matt561
      @Matt561 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They took it down to edit in a a better explanation of Starforge's shipping costs

  • @corvus_thecrow1
    @corvus_thecrow1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +177

    I loaded up this video expecting some companies not learning from previous Secret Shopper episodes... I did not expect the mass chain of great customer support until the end. Awesome!

  • @Schmuly
    @Schmuly 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +527

    Definitely need a full length version of this masterpiece

    • @SubtoXtra
      @SubtoXtra 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes

    • @manjulasammeta7740
      @manjulasammeta7740 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      yes.

    • @weichi_
      @weichi_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@sackiskarathanassis9032they meant the intro part

    • @waleedprograms
      @waleedprograms 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      the vid just came out 9 mins ago and you commented 8 minutes ago is it me lacking or you watched a 37min vid in 1 minute

    • @Jaymison
      @Jaymison 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@waleedprograms😂

  • @chimrichaldsmd
    @chimrichaldsmd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pouring bottled water into a metal water bottle and then throwing the bottle away is the most unhinged thing I've ever seen.

  • @parag263
    @parag263 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Salesperson: "Hi"
    Linus: "Close the damn deal!"

  • @insu_na
    @insu_na 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    I think it's good that they're not closing the sales. For one it means they're not getting commissions to sell you overpriced junk, and also you don't have to dictate your payment info to someone you don't know through a phone.
    I'd much rather do my payments through a payment portal with TLS

    • @MuitoDaora
      @MuitoDaora 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They could just offer help to guide the person through the purchase procedures on the website.

    • @insu_na
      @insu_na 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MuitoDaora Or they could expect the customers to not be NPCs and let the customer ask if they need help

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +855

    The intro singer deserves a raise for doing great work at introducing Linus - neighbor's kid in adult form

    • @guczy
      @guczy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      I can't believe they got Randy Newman to do their intro song

    • @jackoe1246
      @jackoe1246 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Its the monk theme :D

    • @darryljack6612
      @darryljack6612 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I think it was David who sang in the intro, he did a pretty good job

    • @FaZekiller-qe3uf
      @FaZekiller-qe3uf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      David

    • @Zednix
      @Zednix 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Get that vocalist on the Christmas album

  • @Hiwired96
    @Hiwired96 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Love this series! Totally enjoying the whole role playing shtick and the serious benefits this has for regular folks not getting ripped off.

  • @FergaliciousFergyFerg
    @FergaliciousFergyFerg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I LOVE THE MONK INTRO

  • @andreygrinchuk2450
    @andreygrinchuk2450 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

    Rooting for HP support rep getting proper training and additional point for wholesomeness.
    UPDT: dudes from those companies - buy your staff headphones with feedback like Jabra, they clearly let you know if you blow into the mic

    • @StormWarningMom
      @StormWarningMom 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Jabra headphones are awesome.

    • @chrisd4813
      @chrisd4813 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah but jabra headsets also whine at you when you have this feature on. I already have tinnitus, I don’t need it whining in a slightly different frequency too.

    • @miciso666
      @miciso666 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah the guy blowing in the mic would if thats my call to support hang up...
      if u cant afford a decent mic for your workers. you know the tool that they mostly use.
      then i can already assume the service could be shit as well.

  • @OddJobEntertainment
    @OddJobEntertainment 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +815

    HP has a great employee who just needs some training. She'd be every manager's dream if she had the technical knowledge support to go along with her approach.

    • @zazelskycrest2525
      @zazelskycrest2525 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Im a manager and I agree with this comment.

    • @Thatonedude227
      @Thatonedude227 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      100%. You can train the knowledge pretty easily but the attitude is one in a million.

    • @112Haribo
      @112Haribo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Really? I personally hate overly friendly people like that. I'd prefer a more professional tone.

    • @HienNguyen-cs1md
      @HienNguyen-cs1md 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@112Haribo Overall people likes friendliness however with technical knowledge she could solve stuff a lot more efficiently

    • @ashryver3605
      @ashryver3605 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@112Haribo not everyone's a sour old crumb like you I guess

  • @KoraOSRS
    @KoraOSRS 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been waiting for 3 months for all 4 parts to release before watching any SS so I can binge them all in one go. The time has come, I'm SO glad I held off until now, so much content!

  • @achad_14
    @achad_14 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hahahah I died from the "Don let someone get off the phone when you can take their money"

  • @danielsvamp
    @danielsvamp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +144

    The HP sales rep may not have been the most experienced in computers but sure did make one smile.

    • @derkaiser9881
      @derkaiser9881 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The feels, man.

  • @alexwolfeboy
    @alexwolfeboy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    I actually really like them not closing the sale on the call. Maybe I’m just an overly anxious person, but it always made me uncomfortable, because now my sale is being waited on, and ends the interaction in a more sour note (in my head at least).

    • @shaunmoneil
      @shaunmoneil 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      totally agree. I prefer when the sale is made on the site, because I don't feel like the rep is just telling me whatever s/he needs to make their commission. The rep can just give me the best advice they're capable of, without feeling like I'm being milked.

    • @MarioGoatse
      @MarioGoatse 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Of course you do, because like me, you’re a consumer. We don’t want to be pressured into a sale. Linus is meant to be a consumer focused channel, so I don’t know why he’s advocating for them to close the sale on the phone, just because it’s a “good business decision”. He’s forgetting whose side he’s meant to be on here. laws, and regulations to protect us from these massive corporations.

    • @riffraffselbow
      @riffraffselbow 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I think in a situation where the customer didn't express a desire to sleep on it or explore other options, trying to close to sale on the call is probably good. If Shea had said "thanks, I'll look at that, I'm gonna think about it some" pressuring her past that point would have been scummy, but closing the deal when the customer seems to be going along with it is both 'good business sense' and also good support; sometimes people run into issues in the checkout process or have questions that come up right as they're about to click purchase. "oh, how will shipping work, I'm deployed overseas in the us military"/"oh, how do you handle warranty support"/"oh, I think I actually need more hard disk space" etc.

    • @vegetableoil4391
      @vegetableoil4391 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I feel like a best of both worlds solution could be an option on the payment page to put in a rep's name if they helped you

    • @GrueTurtle
      @GrueTurtle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right, but now what I'm going to do is not buy that computer until I open a bunch of other tabs and use it as comparison and try to find somebody else that has the same thing or something that looks closed for a cheaper price. You should probably not what you want me to do is business. You want me to buy you anything. She should make at least one attempts to get me to go ahead and close the sale and then back off if I object

  • @snipe05
    @snipe05 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    We ever going to get part 2?

  • @Longlius
    @Longlius 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm glad Origin just flat-out said, "Sorry, we don't make anything in your budget." Very direct, to the point, no wasted time. It's always a bit of an awkward interaction but it's better than them trying to spend time convincing you to spend more money.

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Having been an IT guy to Filipino call centers before, the HP rep was probably from one. That kind of almost bubbly friendliness and rapport building (especially the chitchat when trying to buy time when she's looking stuff up) is usually what Filipino BPOs want out of their reps (execution may vary, though), and her accent also reminds me of the accents of a lot of people I know when speaking English.

  • @dumpsterdawg
    @dumpsterdawg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +694

    Wait.....Dell actually sell computers with their warranties???

    • @majorfallacy5926
      @majorfallacy5926 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      My dad actually loves Dell's warranty. To their credit, the 2 times he's needed it so far he got on-site service within a day somewhere in rural central Europe. If you got the money and run a small business that needs a working PC with as few interruptions as possible, i can see someone choosing Dell specifically for their overpriced warranty.

    • @reanimationxp
      @reanimationxp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      to be fair, the dell warranties, at least the support they give businesses, is some of the best in the biz. i asked them to ship me parts like a battery and a back panel TO MY HOME and let me fix it MYSELF and they did it without much hassle.

    • @yourfavoritelawnguy2722
      @yourfavoritelawnguy2722 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@reanimationxp this is very true and over looked. Dell warranties for businesses can be a life saver

    • @matthewmspace
      @matthewmspace 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Yeah, Dell warranty for business is great. I’ve consistently had issues with some of their XPS laptops at my job (I’m IT) and the fact they come to you to fix the problem within 2 business days is awesome.
      However, I’ve had enough of their shitboxes and all our laptop Windows PC’s (unless we need a ridiculously high-end one) will soon be running on either 13” or 16” Framework laptops.

    • @reanimationxp
      @reanimationxp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@matthewmspace it's nice that you're in a position to do so. for business fleet pc's i worry how well a modular pc is gonna hold up to "normie" things like drops. i also happen to be in IT (well, infosec) but i was blown away that while in this case, i was the normie end user, just by asking and telling them that yes I was confident in repairing the machine, they shipped parts to my home, NOT the business under warranty. think about that - most products have a warranty VOID sticker if the machine is even opened, let alone KNOWING i mucked around inside, and instead this company is trusting an end user with mucking around inside a machine and parts they might not be familiar with, and still keeping the laptop under warranty. i just want to drive home what a drastic departure that is from say, microsoft and an xbox.

  • @dedicategrinder88
    @dedicategrinder88 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    21:00 **breathing intensifies**

  • @Jaygermeister93
    @Jaygermeister93 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I hope the sales rep from HP does well, after working in customer support I understand how awful it can be to work in a call center. Hopefully HP do their part and equip her with the knowledge and training to thrive.

  • @jerseylife8701
    @jerseylife8701 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +450

    Oh my gosh that woman at HP is the best employee ever, she needs more training and a HUGE bonus/raise

    • @RealOscarMay
      @RealOscarMay 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      True ❤

    • @Tonyx.yt.
      @Tonyx.yt. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      yeah, she sounds so cute and wholesome

    • @jak9669
      @jak9669 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Cute and wholesome voice, so I laughed harder at her name being beeped, cause I assume her name is %{!#£π§

    • @alpham777
      @alpham777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I want her as my best friend lol.

    • @citizend13
      @citizend13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      HP is definitely Filipino - source I am Filipino I can tell from the accent.

  • @PauloLz
    @PauloLz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    As someone who works in a call centre, I can feel the HP girl's pain when she said that Shea was the nicest customer of the day... Because usually customers are dry, direct and sometimes aggressive if you answer or talk in a way they don't like, getting these calls all day drives us crazy! So getting an understanding, calm and open to suggestions customer is a dream come true!
    She was a sweetheart even tho she lacks the knowledge about computers (and funny enough, the computer was a beast), and you could see that she was trying everything in her power to make Shea happy with that discount at the end, she was probably asking her supervisor or someone if she could do that, because i know i would do that! 😆

  • @CamG-rw8cn
    @CamG-rw8cn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    What happended to part 2?

    • @Matt561
      @Matt561 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They took it down to edit in a a better explanation of Starforge's shipping costs

  • @KTSpeedruns
    @KTSpeedruns 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As someone who builds on commission small time around town, I say the fist question should always be what the user plans to do with the computer on the day to day. Those who want someone else to build for them prefer the convenience and maybe don't have the time to do the research. I don't expect them to have an answer that details any computer part or spec.
    My question list is usually:
    What do you plan to do on your PC?
    If gaming: What games do you plan to play?
    If gaming: Do you want to stream on it as well?
    Do you prefer an average size tower or a small machine?
    On a scale of 1-10, how flashy do you want it to look?
    What's your budget?

  • @7Rebro
    @7Rebro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +167

    That HP rep is so likeable even if you're doubting about the deal you'd buy the computer simply because she's so nice. I'm also very excited about this specific secret shopper season, because the lmg labs can thoroughly test these systems

    • @JTCF
      @JTCF 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The voice equivalent of puppy eyes lol (not in a negative way, she really soudns nice)

    • @devilstopgun7311
      @devilstopgun7311 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      she kinda reminds me of kelly from the office tv show

    • @weenusdeletus8068
      @weenusdeletus8068 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      her name is amy

  • @TheQuickSilver101
    @TheQuickSilver101 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +140

    I honestly wasn't expecting this much improvement from Dell. Kudos to them. The HP rep was sweeter than candy and so many sounded great to talk to that I'm genuinely impressed. I know these are a lot of extra work. Thank you LTT crew!

    • @miciso666
      @miciso666 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      dell and hp where i live are kinda shit. and looked at as a ''business boomer''
      most people buy stuff from acer lenovo asus laptop wise. as u get way better for your buck laptop wise.
      as for cases. almost everyone buys custom builts i know cuz 2 of my friends work in the branch. and they say usually u can save a few hundred doing customs.
      recently had my own pc built for under 1500 ish. this is a beefy cpu. like 2nd or 3rd best. 3070rtx 144hz monitor. and i even had a little for a 60 euro mouse.

    • @MrJack1987
      @MrJack1987 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@miciso666 You don't really buy from dell because you want to get a good deal, you buy from them because they can get you 200 office desktops the next day and if something is broken you will have a service technician on site the next day.

  • @leshevecca
    @leshevecca 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    When's the next part coming?????

  • @survil321
    @survil321 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    31:45 If you remember you suggested this exact thing to Origin in Secret Shopper Series 2. They actually listened

  • @ekill1395
    @ekill1395 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +321

    A Monk-LTT crossover is not something I ever thought I’d see or knew that I wanted to see, but I want to see more!

    • @kqzo
      @kqzo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      anyone else actually noticing it in the comments was not something i was expecting

    • @SirShanova
      @SirShanova 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Tbh, I thought it was Borat before I watched the segment in the WAN show

    • @Sir......
      @Sir...... 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      "something something award winning actor Tony Shaloub from Monk"

    • @zodkip3147
      @zodkip3147 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kqzo I thought the comments would all be talking about Monk. Man I did NOT expect that then I heard the first 2 seconds and saw his hair and smiled so much. I can't believe it

    • @kqzo
      @kqzo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@zodkip3147 i was honestly thinking everyone would be too young to get the reference

  • @midoribushi5331
    @midoribushi5331 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    HP rep while she needs to learn a bit bout computers, she was S tier as a sales person. Also, we need more of these kinda videos.

  • @eldridgerexroy
    @eldridgerexroy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i was watching part 2 then its down 😢

    • @Matt561
      @Matt561 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They took it down to edit in a a better explanation of Starforge's shipping costs

    • @eldridgerexroy
      @eldridgerexroy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Matt561 yes i saw the post, thanm you though

    • @Matt561
      @Matt561 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eldridgerexroy You're welcome it was a fast moving situation

  • @DearDearlyDee
    @DearDearlyDee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I did not expect a sequel to my favourite series on youtube on my 2023 bingo

  • @wmomkar2241
    @wmomkar2241 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    omggg the monk-themed intro!! I ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT LMAOO

    • @alexlowe2054
      @alexlowe2054 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The jokes from Techquickie have evolved and taken over the entire channel. I approve.

  • @JohnSmith_420
    @JohnSmith_420 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Working on sales, I understand the importance of closing the deal (without pushing too much).
    As a customer tho, I *really* like this kinda newer approach of "alright I gave you some advice, you can buy it (or not) later when you feel like it". 👍

    • @FireWyvern870
      @FireWyvern870 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yea, it's much better in customer perspective since you can take your time to examine all the options. I tend to buy in shops that don't try too hard to close the deal.

  • @justjackm8
    @justjackm8 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Why did you delete part 2? I was halfway through watching it 😢

  • @kevincarlos973
    @kevincarlos973 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Monk thing took me by surprise. Completely with Randy Newman parody. 😂 Brilliant.

  • @KikiAelita
    @KikiAelita 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +257

    I can see the feedback for the company's success of closing the detail businessman to businessman. As the customer, I don't like sales people and their willingness to leave me alone at the end makes me less likely to wonder if I was pressured into a poor choice once I hang up. I like them saying good bye when I sound like I have gotten what I wanted them to give me: advice/guidance.

    • @sireuchre
      @sireuchre 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Nearly nobody likes the hard sell, but not all closing has to be like a hard sell. My guess is they're trying to get off the line to move to the next call in the queue based on pressures from management. Ideally if they want to sustain the soft sell, they'd at least offer to stay on the line until their order on the site is complete.

    • @blakestandal8294
      @blakestandal8294 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Amen. I actually disagree with Linus on this. I like the honest helpfulness the salesperson made vs making the sale.

    • @tradingelk6914
      @tradingelk6914 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I worked a short while for the tech retailer in my country that keeps winning some yearly "Best Customer Service" award. And the MO was always to TEACH the customer how to do things by themselves. How to use our website, our tools, how to make purchases, basically everything so they would feel like they'd never have to call again - because we've taught them something. So, "closing a deal" was never on the agenda. Only thing that mattered was that the customer felt well informed and well met.
      And I think that is a huge reason why this specific company is considered the go-to for anyone interested in tech. Be it a seasoned veteran or a complete newbie.

    • @KikiAelita
      @KikiAelita 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, when I worked technical support for telecom they really wanted us to teach the customer to never need assistance again. Some folks didn't like that - they wanted personalized care. I get that. But for sales especially, I want to be left alone. My assumption is always that whether the individual wants a commission or their company's training wants money, they are trying to pressure me out of losing more of it. Regardless of whether the product they sell me will better meet my needs, I do not have the money to best meet my needs; I want to be left alone to consider the needs of my wallet at the final hour, not just what I want from a product or service. @@tradingelk6914

    • @tokecs
      @tokecs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes I dont see how it benefits the customer to close the deal on the phone.

  • @frankconlon748
    @frankconlon748 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +204

    OMG that HP rep made me AWWWWW out loud. Someone give that lady a raise just for being an awesome human being!

    • @nelapsi.
      @nelapsi. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Giving people a raise for being cute in the process of doing shit job isn't a good business practice

    • @frankconlon748
      @frankconlon748 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1) She made the customer happy. 2) If you were paying attention to the video, she actually gave her one of the ( if not THE ) best deals out of every rep they spoke to. 3) They clearly have a system in place so that she doesn't have to be intimately familiar with technology to give customers a good deal l. 4) See number 1.
      You're assertion that she did a "shit" job is just flat out false.

  • @softyslife
    @softyslife หลายเดือนก่อน

    Monk is one of my fav shows I think that this entire episode is reference to that one episode where the entire city is filled with garbage and he has to go to. I think it’s a CPU manufacturer.

  • @syrupybrandy2788
    @syrupybrandy2788 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +340

    I laughed so hard when the Origin rep was agonizingly trying to tell her that she's too poor to afford anything they sell without being offensive.

    • @callo1987
      @callo1987 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Heads rolled after last secret shooper

    • @danielzentai5445
      @danielzentai5445 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I mean if ANYONE who saw any of the secret shopper videos still decides to buy from Origin they deserve all the overpriced shit they will get.

    • @miciso666
      @miciso666 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      then later an origin person see's this video... and goes AH SHIIIIT
      imagine hp doing better than a newer company.

    • @desertsandfly2277
      @desertsandfly2277 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'm legit baffled by Origin PC. These guys are just ripping people off for what they pay.

    • @LAndrewsChannel
      @LAndrewsChannel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@desertsandfly2277 Why? They address higher paying customers by offering a better experience rather than a value product. They are the only ones that ship in crates, rather than standard box shipping to lower chances of problems that might appear in shipping. Support doesn't sound outsourced (like Dell's) and it is probably better trained so it costs more. All of these costs are covered by the product's price.
      What you are saying is equivalent to calling entry level offers of luxury/premium brands like Audi, Mercedes or BMW rip-offs because they cost more than a Toyota or Renault of same class and performance.