I agree this is the best one I've ever seen honestly, but the one in Justice League (and Unlimited) trusted Batman with Kryptonite and most of the comics versions also do the same
I don't know if it's intentional, I wouldn't be surprised if it was though given the attention of detail the show has gone to, but I love the double meaning of the episode title being "Fail Safe." Obviously there's the 7734 being Clark's fail safe if he ever goes bad again but there's also the Eradicator being Krypton's fail safe to preserve their culture and restore their people. I really can't praise the writing of this show enough
The scene when Clark takes off & John Henry still needed to put on the suit, reminded me of when Kara & Barry would arrive at a place and had to wait for Oliver to show up.
If it were the typical CW writing: Jonathan would of told Tegan the whole thing because he likes her and she betrays his trust later on. Creating this unnecessary teenage drama. Glad they didn't went there. Kudos to the writers of this show.
Oh My God, i just read this somewhere. But what if the Superman from Steel's Earth survived and was also sent here but he was so injured that his body parts were replaced with TECHNOLOGY, maybe by Lex Luthor, huh? BOOM Cyborg Superman!
ohh man when Rob said the "But you can take it can't you big guy!" line, I caught the old school Justice League cartoon reference 😍. That was good stuff!!
Those aren’t souls in the Eradicator. It’s a storage device where Kryptonian personalities, memories have been backed up. Zod’s soul is in his body, all we’ve seen is a copy like a memory card plugged into Kal
3:29 - In Supergirl Season 2 Episode 22, Superman was affected by Silver Kryptonite which caused him to hallucinate General Zod whenever he looked at Supergirl. So we know for a fact that this version of Superman _has_ faced General Zod before. The only reason this wouldn't be the case is if _Crisis on Infinite Earths_ retconned it. Here's the scene: th-cam.com/video/-qQsLFC4Tcg/w-d-xo.html
That was pre-crisis thou & since this show began there's been a lot of things retconed & a lot of things that differ between this Superman & the one in Supergirl
What I found so impressive about the episode was that I was sad Morgan died. It probably also was there was so much weariness of the characters in the episode.
I also felt bad for him, he was good after all in the beginning, but his ship landed on the wrong zone with the wrong humans, he got the wrong crystal, an abusive father figure, and he was so happy he was not alone when he heard about Kal, he also wanted to speak with his mother. BUT, I think Morgan is not dead yet, the Eradicator has a split personality, the evil side is taking control of him, but in the end Morgan will end his life to save Kal.
All this talk about Superman losing control, Jordan's temper at times, and Kyle about to explode from rage. Season 2, I know that he isn't a Superman villain, but there's too much set up for it not to be Atrocious. If not him, than a Red Lantern Ring will find one of them worthy of great rage.
Great theories and I agree. Now since Edge is seemingly immune to the effects of kryptonite(somehow?) I believe when they throw basically all the kryptonite they have at him he'll remain unaffected but it will seriously hurt Superman. Edge has also been built up from the start as someone who just wants to feel like he belong, and when he sees the hologram version of his mom he will be able to start fighting against the eradicator similar to how Superman was able to start fighting against Zod once he heard Lois' voice through John's communication device. Doubt that they'll keep another non-El kryptonian around after this season so I'm guessing Edge will either commit suicide to stop the eradicator after a talk with Holo-mom or he'll go the phantomzone or something similar.
There was a Zod that Superman was familiar with in the Supergirl version of him but this one is definitely different. They even cast an actor as that Zod. I guess we can imagine that’s what he looks like in this show
I don't think edge is gone I think Clark will use the crystal that has edges father I thought it was weird how they focused on Clark saying the crystal will never be used again almost foreshadowing it will be used again. I really think the key to beating the Eradicator is appealing to Morgan's love for his brother
Great reactions, Guys! Yes, this show is SO GOOD. Please keep this quality up, CW. I wonder if that rumor that this show may end up on HBO Max is true...I really hope not.
I laughed so hard at that line Clark gave Jon about not appreciating all the work his teachers do. No offense to teachers, but it’s not like they baked a cake for him and he didn’t show up
They took the kids into custody for trespassing on that land which seems odd, why is that land fenced off, may be a story there but also they took them for truancy. They are minors out unaccompanied by an adult
@@omegalpha777 it could be nothing but I hope it’s something. Lara said they used to go there as kids and it wasn’t fenced off so who owns it now so wonder and why are the cops out there patrolling it 🤔
Can't wait to see the Eradicator suit 😭 One thing I don't get though, is that if Red Radiation is enough to depower Superman, y not just make weapons out of that instead of Kryptonite 🤦 I don't blame him and Kara for b n mad at ppl for using it cuz it actually hurts them enough to kill whereas red Radiation just depowers them. This was one of the reasons I didn't like Superman cuz he has multiple weaknesses, yet everyone just ends up making kryptonite like that's the only way to beat him 🤦 And yes, you most certainly can get arrested for not going to school 😅 truincy laws... At least in the Merica
@@sebastiangongora5336 but they told the general about John's weapons though... And they have multiple ppl smart enough to create those weapons if they really wanted to in DC. I'm talking about in the show, Arrowverse entirely, and the comics. Just feels like a cop out to always use kryptonite if you're supposed to be an ally
Not this week. More there’s a heat wave right now and it’s to warm to be in the room together with lights shining on us. Be back in the room together soon
One thing I am noticing & maybe looking too deep into it? But all the Jesus stuff that Superman movies want to push & shove down our throat from poses to direct quote from the Bible (including the late Donner's movies) are given to the villain including crucifix pose. Now the jesus angle Smallville also went towards this, but they put those in the 2nd or 3d category the main primary focus of Smallville like Superman & Lois is the main charecters. In movies it is the exact opposite Jesus angle ,imagery & dialogue first; interesting characters or development second. Because the shows know if you can't find the charecters interesting or likable then you won't find the show any good. Also I am not offending or saying bad things about any Christians. I am just saying how much the Superman movies rely on Bible imaginary & quotes to make themselves feel epic & grandiose without actually having anything epic or grandiose. They are that kid who read some epic thing & think they are knowledgeable than everyone else simply because they know that one thing.
I don’t think it’s exactly that at all. From out of the gate Superman and by extension all Kryptonians are described as Gods on Earth. They are near invulnerable and all powerful. The messianic imagery isn’t exactly a new “thing” it’s been in art, television, and film for countless years. (Gods of Olympus.) It’s meant to convey a cosmic force, mythic even - any “Christian” connotations are in your head. It’s not a posture beyond an artistic/visual flair unless it explicitly a film like The Passion of the Christ. Also, and this is just me being snarky - you shouldn’t call out a show’s intelligence and intentions and then use the term “more smarter”.
@@Sugardeluxe again this show, Smallville, Lois & Clark & Superboy have been doing Superman right for the past 40 years than movies. The movies simply use pose & quotes because they don't know how to write Superman at all. Also comics apart from some allusion don't compare Superman to a God or Jesus. Sure some writers do that like Grant morrison but even he knows the human elements are just as important as the extraordinary powers if not more. Also yes Director's like Donner, Singer & Snyder just use that pose simply because they think that audiences are stupid & won't understand what that pose means. In Superman returns one of the writers actually tried many times to have Bible dialogue & crucifix pose toned down or removed entirely but Singer kept pushing more for it. Do I even need to say about Snyder, he has a perfectly good actor (who can be good as Tyler) as Superman yet he keeps pushing evil Superman & more jesus imaginary than actually showing him being good. Donner as much as I like him is also responsible for this stupid trend by wanting to have more grandiose. Also yes the directors themselves have said that those quotes & poses were done intentionally. Another reason I don't like this is that everyone one of those movies even when you say particularly in case of Returns & BvS,ZSJL they just give a long winded comment about bible & how they are deep simply because of that.
@@kazinadbiralamadit6905 I get what your saying, But im pretty sure the jesus comparison is somewhat the point of superman and it looks badass so who cares
@@surrotten3354 like I said I don't have a problem with it if it is done correctly examples include Superman I , Smallville. Also yes it looks badass I would not have any problems with it if not for the fact when regular people like me questions some plot hole they just give winded speech about Bible. Tv tropes website actually said compared to comics (which uses it less) movies go overboard with this idea. At this point you can call this a cliché of Superman movies. I really hope in the new Superman movie Berlanti & Helbing are involved with the new Superman movie in some capacity.
This is truly the best Superman any other version would’ve said get rid of all the kryptonite
Except for Comic-Book Superman, who trusts Batman to keep all the Kryptonite.
I agree this is the best one I've ever seen honestly, but the one in Justice League (and Unlimited) trusted Batman with Kryptonite and most of the comics versions also do the same
@@praveenvijeyakumar741 por desgracia Batman no está en ésta serie ni en ninguna serie
I wish we did see something of Clark/Kal-El trying to preserve a bit of what he has left of Krypton, by teaching his sons for one.
This show can truly do characters.
I don't know if it's intentional, I wouldn't be surprised if it was though given the attention of detail the show has gone to, but I love the double meaning of the episode title being "Fail Safe." Obviously there's the 7734 being Clark's fail safe if he ever goes bad again but there's also the Eradicator being Krypton's fail safe to preserve their culture and restore their people. I really can't praise the writing of this show enough
Lois with the mom radar!! LOL I love this show so much.
The scene when Clark takes off & John Henry still needed to put on the suit, reminded me of when Kara & Barry would arrive at a place and had to wait for Oliver to show up.
I love Superman & Lois but watching you guys' reaction to each episode is like a two for one deal! LOVE IT!
Thanks so much
If it were the typical CW writing: Jonathan would of told Tegan the whole thing because he likes her and she betrays his trust later on. Creating this unnecessary teenage drama. Glad they didn't went there. Kudos to the writers of this show.
I wish we did see something of Clark/Kal-El trying to preserve a bit of what he has left of Krypton, by teaching his sons for one
Oh My God, i just read this somewhere. But what if the Superman from Steel's Earth survived and was also sent here but he was so injured that his body parts were replaced with TECHNOLOGY, maybe by Lex Luthor, huh? BOOM Cyborg Superman!
Cyborg Zod ;)
Maybe season 2
ohh man when Rob said the "But you can take it can't you big guy!" line, I caught the old school Justice League cartoon reference 😍. That was good stuff!!
Those aren’t souls in the Eradicator. It’s a storage device where Kryptonian personalities, memories have been backed up. Zod’s soul is in his body, all we’ve seen is a copy like a memory card plugged into Kal
I was waiting for this video. You guys are the best reactors!!
3:29 - In Supergirl Season 2 Episode 22, Superman was affected by Silver Kryptonite which caused him to hallucinate General Zod whenever he looked at Supergirl. So we know for a fact that this version of Superman _has_ faced General Zod before. The only reason this wouldn't be the case is if _Crisis on Infinite Earths_ retconned it. Here's the scene: th-cam.com/video/-qQsLFC4Tcg/w-d-xo.html
That was pre-crisis thou & since this show began there's been a lot of things retconed & a lot of things that differ between this Superman & the one in Supergirl
@@justbless6074 yup,whatever happened on that show is irrelevant as crisis restarted the multiverse and merged some worlds
Prepare for Eradication
What I found so impressive about the episode was that I was sad Morgan died. It probably also was there was so much weariness of the characters in the episode.
I also felt bad for him, he was good after all in the beginning, but his ship landed on the wrong zone with the wrong humans, he got the wrong crystal, an abusive father figure, and he was so happy he was not alone when he heard about Kal, he also wanted to speak with his mother.
BUT, I think Morgan is not dead yet, the Eradicator has a split personality, the evil side is taking control of him, but in the end Morgan will end his life to save Kal.
It was funny that you guys thought of Kyle running for major, but I think there is a possibility that Lana would.
All this talk about Superman losing control, Jordan's temper at times, and Kyle about to explode from rage. Season 2, I know that he isn't a Superman villain, but there's too much set up for it not to be Atrocious. If not him, than a Red Lantern Ring will find one of them worthy of great rage.
Here me out Jonathan becomes "Cyborg " Superman as he will get a suit like Steel lol
Great theories and I agree. Now since Edge is seemingly immune to the effects of kryptonite(somehow?) I believe when they throw basically all the kryptonite they have at him he'll remain unaffected but it will seriously hurt Superman. Edge has also been built up from the start as someone who just wants to feel like he belong, and when he sees the hologram version of his mom he will be able to start fighting against the eradicator similar to how Superman was able to start fighting against Zod once he heard Lois' voice through John's communication device. Doubt that they'll keep another non-El kryptonian around after this season so I'm guessing Edge will either commit suicide to stop the eradicator after a talk with Holo-mom or he'll go the phantomzone or something similar.
that feels like a spoiler somehow ngl xD. Are you the director of the next episode dude?
@@ealansari Nope, just me guessing based on what the show has presented so far. :)
This is America. You get arrested and put in cuffs for skipping school and getting caught
No you don't don't listen to this kid.
That did happen in Supergirl as exactly as you recall.
If someone told me that that last scene is from a movie, I would totally believe it
It's a war suit.
I've been waiting for this reaction!
There was a Zod that Superman was familiar with in the Supergirl version of him but this one is definitely different. They even cast an actor as that Zod. I guess we can imagine that’s what he looks like in this show
I don't think edge is gone I think Clark will use the crystal that has edges father I thought it was weird how they focused on Clark saying the crystal will never be used again almost foreshadowing it will be used again. I really think the key to beating the Eradicator is appealing to Morgan's love for his brother
Great reactions, Guys! Yes, this show is SO GOOD. Please keep this quality up, CW. I wonder if that rumor that this show may end up on HBO Max is true...I really hope not.
I laughed so hard at that line Clark gave Jon about not appreciating all the work his teachers do. No offense to teachers, but it’s not like they baked a cake for him and he didn’t show up
Yeah, Clark is sometimes too much of a boy-scout.
Fantastic episode! I just hope they end this show strong and don’t run it into the ground by keeping it for too many seasons
Talneto Rho with that escape scene!! Another break but the show has been so good I can't get too mad!
I like the theory of that s1 is the death or prologue and s2 is his return. Would love to meet doomsday in s2
They took the kids into custody for trespassing on that land which seems odd, why is that land fenced off, may be a story there but also they took them for truancy. They are minors out unaccompanied by an adult
Swamp Thing.
Just kidding, but that was my first thought.
@@omegalpha777 it could be nothing but I hope it’s something. Lara said they used to go there as kids and it wasn’t fenced off so who owns it now so wonder and why are the cops out there patrolling it 🤔
Also on Supergirl the heat vision is blue, on S/L it is red
Can't wait to see the Eradicator suit 😭
One thing I don't get though, is that if Red Radiation is enough to depower Superman, y not just make weapons out of that instead of Kryptonite 🤦 I don't blame him and Kara for b n mad at ppl for using it cuz it actually hurts them enough to kill whereas red Radiation just depowers them. This was one of the reasons I didn't like Superman cuz he has multiple weaknesses, yet everyone just ends up making kryptonite like that's the only way to beat him 🤦
And yes, you most certainly can get arrested for not going to school 😅 truincy laws... At least in the Merica
John henary Steel used red sun to take his power away so I think that it just the military doesn’t know and only uses Kryptonite
@@sebastiangongora5336 but they told the general about John's weapons though... And they have multiple ppl smart enough to create those weapons if they really wanted to in DC. I'm talking about in the show, Arrowverse entirely, and the comics. Just feels like a cop out to always use kryptonite if you're supposed to be an ally
Why are you guys separated again....You all were sitting at the same table last week....Did your government issue a bunch of covid restrictions again?
Not this week. More there’s a heat wave right now and it’s to warm to be in the room together with lights shining on us. Be back in the room together soon
One thing I am noticing & maybe looking too deep into it? But all the Jesus stuff that Superman movies want to push & shove down our throat from poses to direct quote from the Bible (including the late Donner's movies) are given to the villain including crucifix pose. Now the jesus angle Smallville also went towards this, but they put those in the 2nd or 3d category the main primary focus of Smallville like Superman & Lois is the main charecters. In movies it is the exact opposite Jesus angle ,imagery & dialogue first; interesting characters or development second. Because the shows know if you can't find the charecters interesting or likable then you won't find the show any good.
Also I am not offending or saying bad things about any Christians. I am just saying how much the Superman movies rely on Bible imaginary & quotes to make themselves feel epic & grandiose without actually having anything epic or grandiose. They are that kid who read some epic thing & think they are knowledgeable than everyone else simply because they know that one thing.
I don’t think it’s exactly that at all. From out of the gate Superman and by extension all Kryptonians are described as Gods on Earth. They are near invulnerable and all powerful. The messianic imagery isn’t exactly a new “thing” it’s been in art, television, and film for countless years. (Gods of Olympus.) It’s meant to convey a cosmic force, mythic even - any “Christian” connotations are in your head.
It’s not a posture beyond an artistic/visual flair unless it explicitly a film like The Passion of the Christ.
Also, and this is just me being snarky - you shouldn’t call out a show’s intelligence and intentions and then use the term “more smarter”.
@@Sugardeluxe again this show, Smallville, Lois & Clark & Superboy have been doing Superman right for the past 40 years than movies. The movies simply use pose & quotes because they don't know how to write Superman at all. Also comics apart from some allusion don't compare Superman to a God or Jesus. Sure some writers do that like Grant morrison but even he knows the human elements are just as important as the extraordinary powers if not more.
Also yes Director's like Donner, Singer & Snyder just use that pose simply because they think that audiences are stupid & won't understand what that pose means. In Superman returns one of the writers actually tried many times to have Bible dialogue & crucifix pose toned down or removed entirely but Singer kept pushing more for it. Do I even need to say about Snyder, he has a perfectly good actor (who can be good as Tyler) as Superman yet he keeps pushing evil Superman & more jesus imaginary than actually showing him being good. Donner as much as I like him is also responsible for this stupid trend by wanting to have more grandiose.
Also yes the directors themselves have said that those quotes & poses were done intentionally. Another reason I don't like this is that everyone one of those movies even when you say particularly in case of Returns & BvS,ZSJL they just give a long winded comment about bible & how they are deep simply because of that.
@@kazinadbiralamadit6905 I get what your saying, But im pretty sure the jesus comparison is somewhat the point of superman and it looks badass so who cares
@@surrotten3354 like I said I don't have a problem with it if it is done correctly examples include Superman I , Smallville. Also yes it looks badass I would not have any problems with it if not for the fact when regular people like me questions some plot hole they just give winded speech about Bible. Tv tropes website actually said compared to comics (which uses it less) movies go overboard with this idea. At this point you can call this a cliché of Superman movies. I really hope in the new Superman movie Berlanti & Helbing are involved with the new Superman movie in some capacity.
@@kazinadbiralamadit6905 I understand