All-new Kia Sportage VS Updated Subaru Forester comparison
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This is a Motormouth couple car comparison of the all-new 2023 Kia Sportage and the updated 2022 Subaru Forester. The Sportage is almost an inch longer than the Forester. The Subaru offers almost 2” more front row legroom, but the Sportage has 2” more second row legroom. Overall cargo capacity and space behind the second row goes to the Sportage with an extra 12.7 cubic feet or 359 litres behind the second row. The Kia Sportage offers three powertrains. The gas model has a 2.5L 4-cylinder with an 8-speed automatic transmission, 187 horsepower and 178 lb-ft of torque. The hybrid has a 1.6L turbocharged hybrid powertrain with 227 horsepower and the PHEV arriving this summer, has a targeted EV range of 51km/32 miles.
The Subaru Forester has just one engine option, a 2.5L 4-cylinder with a CVT, 182 horsepower and 176 lb-ft of torque. We’ll be focusing on the gas models in this review, as the Forester doesn’t have a hybrid or PHEV option. The Sportage has both FWD and AWD options, the Forester standard AWD.
Both the Sportage and Forester have a spacious, open and comfortable cabin. The Sportage comes with an 8” touchscreen, available 12.3” and the Forester 6.5” available 8”. The Kia has standard wireless Apple Carplay and Android Auto, wired on the larger screen, the Forester only wired. Other standard features the Forester and Sportage have include cloth heated front seats, a manual driver and passenger seat and 17” wheels. Features available on the higher trims include, a heated steering wheel, a Harman Kardon sound system, panoramic sunroof, driver seat memory, a power driver and passenger seat, power tailgate and heated rear seats. The Subaru Forester does not have a wireless charger or ventilated front seats, which the Sportage has. The Forester does have an available leather interior, the Sportage only cloth, leatherette or a mix of both. For fuel economy the Subaru Forester does a little bit better thanks to the CVT 9L/100 km, 26 MPG city and 7.2L, 33 MPG highway. The Kia gets 10.4L/100km, 23 MPG city and 8.5L, 28 MPG highway. The Kia Sportage AWD starts at $30,395 CAD/$27,790 USD and the top trim $40,995 CAD/$36,790 USD. The Subaru Forester starts at $29,495 CAD/$25,195 USD and the top trim $40,595 CAD/$35,295 USD.
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Interesting you put out this video as these were my two finalists when ordering a new vehicle.
I was attracted to Kia for the luxurious interior and just how many features were available even on lower trims. When it came time to test drive one, however, it didn’t feel great or comfortable to drive. The handling was very stiff, very much like a European car. Driving it felt like I had to focus and put energy just to turn the thing.
Originally, I was not very interested in the forester but I kept it open as that’s what my wife was interested in. When I test drove the Forester, everything changed. I could not believe how well it handled and how smooth and comfortable the ride is. It almost felt like driving a sedan. You sit in there and it just feels so natural.
In the end, between the better driving experience and more proven AWD system we went with the forester. Oddly enough, we ordered the same color as the one in the video so it’s nice to see it in action 👍🏻
Ha, that is my experience as well. I am attracted to Kia internal but decided to go for Subaru because the driving just blow my mind. note: I am a Tesla owner, I drive a good performing car, but Subaru suspension is just so good and the visibility just way better.
Also depending on the driver visibility I’d may go with Subaru. Many of us forget about that but driver visibility makes a huge difference when getting used to new vehicle.
I agree. Maybe it's just me, but a "modern" dashboard or interior is way down on my priority list compared to visibility.
@@mmmichellegirl Without hands on on Sportage, I can't say for sure. But as a Tesla owner, I feel its touch screen without much physical button is not practical when driving. I love its Netflix and other features when its park, but I CAN't even turn on swiper without looking down and finding and clicking twice. I went for Subaru, of course, I like its off load and its suspension a lot.
I like both interiors design with technology but Sportage has the hybrid is a winner. Great video Andrea! 👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
What about reliability ?
@@salmankhawaja3 Andrea already mentioned at almost end of the video.
The Sportgae (gas engine) gets worse gas mileage than the Forester Wilderness. The hybrid would be the way to go, however to get all the safety features you get in the Subaru you’re spending an extra 4K upfront (which might be worth it based on today’s gas prices)
Had it narrowed down to these two, but my gut is
Telling me the Forrester. Yes, the Kia has more modern look to it, more bells and whistles, better warranty and has hybrid and ones options. But talking to my neighbour, who had a Santa Fe kind of turned me off of Kia/Hyundai. It had a rattle from the day he bought it new, and the engine went at 130K. Forrester is the nicer ride IMO. When I sit in it the Subaru, it feels like it’s the better quality. Visibility in the Forrester is the best I ve ever seen. One reviewer I watched, felt like he was sitting on top of the vehicle, not in it, as the viability was that good. Forrester Sport will be ordered this coming May
I test drove a Sportage, Honda CRV, RAV4 and Forester. The last three vehicles I've owned were Toyota's and I think then make some of the most reliable cars on the market. That said, the Sportage was feature driven with not much else for substance. The CRV I wasn't impressed with and the RAV4 had a rougher, noise ride than the Forster. I live in central Wisconsin and we get nasty winters so I chose the Forester. Much better all-wheel drive system, more ground clearance and a more comfortable ride, IMO. I was looking new and found a 2018 Forester Limited with 40k milage so bought it. So far I love it. Still do miss my 2000 Tacoma though.
Thank you so much for this comparison. You guys are wonderful and so entertaining when you do these. Looking forward to more. (Kosta from Ottawa)
I bought my 2022 Forester Premium 2 weeks ago. Its closest contender for ME was the Hyundai Tuscon SEL, which I liked a lot, it drove nicely and quietly, felt very solidly build, handled nicely/fairly tight steering, has a lot of rear cargo space, BUT no full-time all-wheel drive (or X drive), I had problems with visibility which isn't good for packed city and highway driving of Los Angeles, and I really wanted a car that felt more "utilitarian" than super high tech -- I like that the Forester still has some tactile control buttons and knobs. I like the CVT and just how well the Forester does in adverse weather, terrain, and road conditions. I absolutely love my new '22 Forester Premium!
Well,I’m going to say Sportage over Forester,and here’s why. I bought a new 2013 Outback. Within 20K, it started using oil. Qt every 3K,6month later, 2 qts, it finally got to 5 qts between oil changes. The dealer and Subaru WOULD NOT STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT! At 100K the Idiots lights came on, “Just drive it they” said the computer is failing. At 179 K the rear wheel bearings went out, The Computer totally failed, and the motor quit. A new tranny/motor was $16,755.I donated it to Public Radio, who took it to auction, and goy $4k for it , I got a tax deduction.
The forester we bought in 2015 was great until 100K, the Tranny went out, as well as the Computer. Sold it to “Car Brain” and got 3.5 K for parts! So much for Subaru quality! NEVER AGAIN! I’ll try KIA
Got a 2013 outback with 80k miles, eats oil as well! On the waiting list for a Sportage PHEV now.
We had our fill of Korean cars (throwaways). Tired of tranny issues from them and yes, they do have the engine (Fires), over 390,000 have been recalled so far for those issues. I'll go with safety EVERY time (Subaru).
Hate to break the news to you but the Forester falls into that category as well. I had the misforfune of having to drive the previous generation Forester for 2.5 years as a company vehicle. Uncomfortable, cheap materials, and it was starting to fall apart at about 85k miles when thankfully I was able to turn it in for a RAV 4 hybrid. The Forester is an incredibly ugly vehicle and full if cheap, outdated materials.
I am still waiting for my Phev Kia Sportage. I am in the wait list already. So I am Sportage all the way.
Forester wilderness for me :)
Works well for me getting to hiking trails in BC.
I ended up buying one in Geyser Blue
Well this review was fun to watch with a clear bias to Kia. If you want flat touch screen technology then that is what you want I want buttons and knobs as I am old I guess. I have a Honda touch screen now in my Fit and it is useless . For so many reasons, after 40 years of Honda ownership I am gonna give Subaru (Crosstrek) 2023 2.5 a try I road tested the forester and loved it . But went with a ‘need’. And not a ‘want’.
Just an FYI: The blue Subaru in the snow shown at 14:00 is not a Forester, its a Ascent, the larger, 3 row Subie
LOOOOL
If Subaru had a hybrid option, a no brainer for me!
I was in Colombia not to long ago. And they have the forester hybrid. I wonder why doesn't US or CAD has it yet 😕
@@Davidrest3000 hate to say it but most owners of the forester hybrid are reporting its not really saving them much and isnt worth the price
I’m actually replacing my 2011 Sportage and looking at the 2023 Sportage, 2022 Outback and the 2022 Forrester.
This video was great! I like the interior of the outback and Sportage best, and your video pointed out that the cargo space in Sportage may be more comparable to the Outback. I also like that there is a turbo option in the Outback. My 2011 is a turbo.
The wireless Apple play will be available in 2023 Subaru’s from what I have been told.
Decisions, decisions!!!
I sayd that Forester are safest and fastest way to reach 200kmh
I also have a 2011 Sportage. It’s has only 71K mikes, so I may keep it a while longer. The minor bugs need to be worked out of the ‘23 Sportage and the market needs to change before I purchase.
I’ve also been looking at the Forester. I’m not a fan of CVT’s though, so I’m doing my research. Too many Crossover sized vehicles are using CVT’s, so the options become limited.
@@timmerred5 I didn’t know about other companies using CVTs, other than Subaru.
The 2023 is much larger than the 2011. It’s the size of the Sorrento in 2011. In Canada, the standard full combustion engine is the only option ( meaning, no turbo option). I have a turbo. I found the 183 HP to be underpowered and less fun to drive. I didn’t look into the hybrid - but bigger and more weight with the additional engine? I took a pass.
@@giggle1971 Thank you for the information. I’m in a Facebook group for the new Sportage. Many folks there swear by the hybrid, but I don’t have much interest in it. I’d probably keep my next vehicle a long time and I don’t want to deal with the costs involved with replacing a hybrid battery. The hybrid has the dial knob instead of a shift stick and I’d rather not have that knob/dial. I don’t drive much, so the fuel savings isn’t a big deal for me.
Maybe it’s the inner mechanic and engineer in me but I’m looking at the foundation of a house, the roof, and appliances/accessories. I do the same with a car and as a first time Subaru buyer when I popped the hood and saw the engine layout with the alternator and a/c compressor on top. The longitudinal mounting of the engine and serpentine belt in front. The battery under the hood and easy access to headlight bulbs that don’t require removing a bumper to change a headlight like some GM products then I loved the Subaru. I guess it’s a design/engineering philosophy and Subaru has the better philosophy, they built a foundation and then the house whereas the Kia is selling “luxury” styling that is only surface deep. They put lipstick on a pig and want me to pay $30,000. Where is my $30,000 going? I’d rather it go in a superior foundation than a back massager. You look at a house and people see a coat of paint and new vinyl floors and miss the water issues. You date an attractive blood but miss the psycho who slashes your tires. Life is easier with a Subaru.
I like both. They are in my list for new suv this summer with tucson, rav4.
Just comparing the Forester n sportage , the sportage is priced way over the msrp in many dealers. N in my area, Forester is for sure drive better. But still sportage interior n cargo space is just a level above Subaru n Toyota.
In current shortage. Probably I would go for which one available first.
Forester is a better car hands down. Doesn’t look as modern as the Sportage, but will outlast a Kia if you look after it.
Unlike the continuing style changes (extreme changes) done every two or three years over at KIA, the Subaru Forester will be identifiable in the next few years. There are many great reasons why the Subaru continues to have a higher resale, they’ve got a great proven product. Despite this, the KIA does offer a great alternative. Thanks for the video.
You are aware that the average car on the road in Canada is 9.6 years old (recent stat). And in the United States (and a lot to do with the COVID/recession etc.), the average car on U.S. roads is 12.1 years old! A new record. (another recent stat)… so… hmmm… many people do keep their cars that long (although in your defence, many are on their 2nd owner/purchased used… so maybe you are right… well… partially at least). Cheers!
The Sportage (the vehicle being compared to the Forester in the video) has just been redesigned for the first time since 2016. Maybe compare the 2016 model to last year's right before it got fully redesigned for this year.
@@andresmattos7541 I kept my 1994 Saturn SL2 for 22 years
@@andresmattos7541No one you know apparently.
Sportage hybrid SX Prestige is on my wish list.
Forester. For space, reputation for reliability, convenience of getting kiddos in and out of the back seat.
Thank you for your excellent review. I first thought that you didn't mention the Subaru Eyesight feature but you did. I will pay more attention next time.
One extra feature not often mentioned on the Premier is driver recognition which when setup recognizes the driver and sets the seat and mirrors automatically when they get in the vehicle or open the door with a key fog programmed for that driver. It works. One other thing about Subaru over Hyundia or Kia is it is safer to park in a garage without chance of it burning it down :)
I had a choice between the 2024 Hyundai Tucson Luxury Hybrid vs the 2024 Subaru Forester Touring. The Tucson was all decked out with more options and I did love the Hybrid for stop and go driving fuel economy and low speed pep. But I am heading into retirement, so I don't expect to do much stop and go driving. I ultimately chose the far less expensive Forester. The power felt as good as my 2016 Hyundai Sonata, and with a little bit better fuel economy. So adequate for my needs. I loved the visibility of the Subaru. I did not really notice the CVT vs geared transmission. The Tucson was definitely quieter and had the better sound system. This is the last year for this generation of Forester. I am hoping that means they have the bugs worked out. And the Touring features are obviously not as good as the Tucson Luxury, or the Forester Limited, but the price difference meant I could buy winter tires and rims and still keep a big chunk of change in my wallet. I did struggle with a 3 year vs 5 year warranty. But the latest Consumer Reports shows higher reliability and customer satisfaction with the Subaru. And that is what I am betting on. Definitely the Forester feels slightly dated and much more utilitarian, however it is not spartan. I like utilitarian when it comes across as tried and true. I definitely would not wait until the 2025 Forester. I don't like first model years. There are all kinds of things that they learn and fix down the road. I have learned that the hard way with a few cars.
More equal would be a X-line Sportage vs a Forester. As for the subaru, they have not even released 2023 Forester specs, options and prices. Per the local dealer, people are walking from Subaru to Kia since they want a 2023. Not sure what is happening in CA.
When you said "yet" with ref. to the Forester not having a hybrid Zack, I cried with tears of hope.
There are hybrid Forrester in Australia, but they aren't very efficient
Thanks to you both for these comparisons. I would choose the Kia Sportage hybrid 🚙
Me too!
Excellent comparison. I love the large glass of the Forester, but would only consider it if there was a hybrid option. So for now, I vote for the hybrid Sprotage.
I guess at my age I leaning to the Forester. I need the visibility & safety and not be distracted by all the high tech dash. I do like a sporty look and not loving the boxy look of the F but one has to weigh what is more important. I still haven’t driven any of these yet. Looking to get out of my 2014 Rogue. Love the new look of the Rogues but everyone is slamming the new engine.
You will be disappointed with the CVT if you get one AWD is the best but need a manual.
@@davidwright1752 wrong! Not disappointed at all. We Love our Wilderness! Had the Rogue 10 yrs and no issues with the CVT but didn’t like the interior. Not everyone needs a hot rod 😜
Love them both, but would go Sportage ... Forester has a CVT ... that's a no thank you.
What’s wrong with CVT?
@@luminaire7085 I and a lot of people don't like CVT transmissions because they lack a feeling of connection during the acceleration. The responsiveness is very inconsistent.
The average driver probably wouldn't even notice; but anyone looking for more accurate performance would most likely not be a fan.
It's sorta weird to explain. For me if you were to floor the gas, the accerlation would vary in torque from shift to shift to shift.
@@foggyblues13 There you go, I would have bought a WRX or STI if I wanted quick acceleration or a BMW, Dodge Hemi and others for which I rent for business. Otherwise, a CVT specially Subies takes me from point A to point B in the most efficient and secure way in our Canadian weather (depends where you live in Canada).
Now in my 3rd year/70,000 Km with a Subie and it has been flawless, still undecided if I stick with Subaru or go with another brand. Some off-roading like going to a river, lake, the maritimes, drive it on snow or small country roads it is the best.
I totally agree!
I love the Outback, Forester, and the WRX.
I'd need to test drive all of them to know if they're for me and suit my driving style.
I can't stand any vehicle that randomly responds when it feels like.
If I hit the gas, I need to know how it will respond. I can't have it having a sluggish period then accelerate really fast for a moment, the go to sluggish again.
I don't need a race car. I just need predictability. Through my personal experience, they do not provide that for me. lol
@@foggyblues13 Can’t disagree with your comment, everyone is seeking something that will answer their personal expectations and experience of driving. Happy trails and safe drive on any vehicle.
A bit of a tough decision - but I would probably choose the Subaru for the considerably higher resale value. Best in class. At least here in the US Kia dealers have a pretty poor reputation as well. I think Subaru dealers on a whole are a little more customer focused.
@@andresmattos7541 Guess you haven't heard of Hyundai/Kia's multi-million vehicle recalls for engine fires and engine failures recently. Yeah, I'll take dowdier styling and much higher resale value over flashier styling and engine recalls. Thanks for the congrats.
@@jeffmorse645 Besides, "ugly and boring" is in the eye of the beholder.
But Subaru isn't pretending to be something it's not anyway. Which is why, I guess, they remain rather status quo and popular with their drivers.
The drivers market for Subaru is not a "look at me" group of people.
Subaru provides a functional AWD that works for a lower maintenance clientele to be sure. They're not designing an AWD with a plush interior that looks more like it's heading for the opera than the outdoors. Two different goals for the Subaru driver and the Kia/Rav/Mazda drivers.
Subaru knows this so doesn't change all that much.
@@jeffmorse645 Have to agree with you. Would never get a Hyundai. My husband had one and, yes, it had a great warranty, but we had to take that car in constantly. Time is money as well. It's a huge burden to have to take a car in for repairs frequently.
The Subaru Forester is so damn ugly... and it has been that way for years. Interior materials feel cheap as well. I would know. I had to endure the previous gen Forester as a company vehicle for 2 1/2 years. I was so happy the day they hauled it off. Would never drive one again if I have a choice.
@@andresmattos7541 not where we live!
It’s not perfect but I love my Forester. Smooth, comfortable, great visibility. I call it the ‘Popemobile’. I get better fuel economy than on this test. She’s thirsty but very rarely goes over 10l/100km. Around the city it’s about 8.5l even with the air con on. On highways is around 7.5 to 8. 😀
Interesting vehicles, but I'm going to stick with Mazda, with either a 2023 CX-50 or CX-5 in June 2023.
Great comparison.
I would go Sportage all day long. Kia, Hyundai and Genesis are knocking it out of the park with everything they put out these days.
Yes!!!!
Thanks for sharing great review on both .
Hello.. Is it good to buy 2022 Hyundai Elentra Hybrid ??? How's the reliability ?
I bought a Forester my22, but I'm still waiting for it.
I'd say that overall it's hard to find in other brands what Subaru offers. First of all, in my opinion, even if the Forester looks like a cargo container and the interior design gives you the idea of an older car compared to its rivals (almost a previous generation ), the built in quality looks superior and I think it's a kind of policy they've to do not change what is working good.
Infact, I've tried the brand new Tucson, the Sportage, the Jeep Compass my22, the Rav 4, the Alfa Romeo Stelvio (which is fantastic, but it comes only with gasoline/diesel engines) before I moved on the Subaru Forester which is the only car that gave me almost the same built in quality feeling than BMW/audi/mercedes, having a bit lower price (the forester here costs 47k € in the "4dventure" version).
By the way, they are offering me an 8 years free assistance (bumper to bumper formula) with unlimited mileage, but as you mentioned in the video, there are some details that I would have had like the wireless charger and apple car play / android auto.
I'm not sure why the didn't thought about that, even because I think that it's not affecting at all the philosophy of the car. Maybe the microchip shortage has a primary role in this, even because I guess that Subaru hasn't the same numbers (in terms of selling) compared to its rivals.
Anyway, thank you for your great job ! (i'm watching you from Italy and i swear that here subarus are really hard to find!)
Well we own a Forester and an Outback.
We looked at a ton of different vehicles before choosing either one of our Subie’s.
Ultimately Subaru won for us.
When we’re on the snow covered highway or freeway, Subaru’s are always in the fast lane passing everyone else bc Subaru’s AWD is superior over anyone else.
Kia. I just got a X-Pro. Love it.
Great video! Please review the Aura ILX!!!!
I'd date/lease the KIA, marry/own the Subaru.
Sportage's styling is bolder. Forester is more evolutionary than revolutionary. When it comes to interior quality and UI, Sportage is a step above Forester. Sportage is also a generation ahead of Forester when it comes to lifespan. I still prefer the asymmetrical AWD's driving feel, also its more proven when it comes to design and execution. Right brain goes to Sportage, while left brain goes to Forester. However, we also have to consider which one has stock available during this difficult time. Forester remains one of the hardest cars to find in the market, while I have seen the new Sportage is available on dealer lots even if they are base LX.
Luv u guys !
Great reviews
love the PUG
I would like to see in your reviews if they can carry golf clubs
In the min 9 you made a mistake with the images i think you mention subaru and show a kia a image
Forester wilderness , unbeaten !
This comparison is interesting in that a choice is difficult. Does Subaru still use the CVT from JATCO? Then KIA is having reliability problems with their 4 cylinder engines. They will not show problems until after the warranty is over. . . . Oh boy. A choice is tough. 🤔
Subaru makes it own CVT. This is why we'll never see a different transmission on a Subaru unless it partnered up with another automaker.
@@JT-fq2bl Subaru uses a "Lineartronic" CVT transmission on their most recent productions. (It is a JATCO design.) We all make our own decisions on what we buy. It is tough to see who makes what but research shows who is making different products. The consumer decides. I usually keep vehicles past their warranty. . . . like 350,000 km or so. We had a 1996 Toyota Camry that we sold to a neighbour in 2009 when we bought an Acura MDX. . . . No, I would not buy a new MDX now. We own a GMC Duramax as well. I do my own scheduled maintenance. A cousin likes CVT transmissions (Murano) but he has never kept a Nissan past the warranty expiration. Enjoy what you purchase. Some say that a Toyota is boring. Well, I like "boring". . . . maybe that is why I write long "replies". 😊
It’s not jatco is done in house
Could you tell me if the Kia 2023 Sportage has the Theta 2 motor
So what are the changes that the KIA engine will catch fire? Kia and Hyundai apparently have a problem and I am not sure if its save to go for the Sportage no matter how good it looks.
i am so attracted to the Forester, and planning to get the 2023 model which is going to be available as soon as March. HOwever, i read about some issues with the battery drain when the car is left unused for even a couple of days. Many reported that the car cannot start up because of the battery power drain. I am not sure if that only happened to some years of Forester or in batched in some country. Anyone has experience on this ?
Just traded a '22 Ford Maverick hybrid for a new '23 Forester Limited yesterday. Yes the two vehicles are completely different but the Maverick felt cheap and poor ride quality while the Forester feels solid, well made and drives great. The Maverick has had many recalls and problems, especially with the hybrid. Also I made $8000 profit selling my Maverick!
Subaru Forester every time. Surprised that you choose the Sportage for city dwellers, over the Forester. The Subaru has way better outward visibility for crazy city traffic, better for tight parking spots, and safely back up with all around visibility. Forester has tighter turn radius for much easier navigate crowded and tight parking lots. Easier to do U-Turns, etc, etc...
Agreed. Felt this review was a bit one-sided. But that's just me.
One sided for a reason. The Forester is the Fugliest SUV on the road and outdated.
@@utesichiban4009 beats having a throw away vehicle.
Retired, it had 85k miles on it when I got rid of it and it was falling apart. The Forester (at least the previous generation) is a throw away vehicle.
Ordered a Forester last weekend. Did tons of research but very few test drives. The greenhouse and lack of trendy fads sold it.
same here. ordered a green premier one in canada. hopefully it arrives in couple months.
@@FuryfistX Me too. Subaru is what it is, and I saw a reviewer put it perfectly. He said that when a Subaru drives by you no one remembers it 5 seconds later. 'I think it was a gray car? A wagon? A small SUV. Not sure.' lol Subaru isn't out for the "look at me" market when it comes to drivers. And they know that. So things stay rather status quo for Subaru. I'm just hoping some of the issues they've mentioned such as oil consumption, gaskets, CVT issues are all worked out. My understanding is that they are. Subaru isn't pretending to be something it's not, and people still seem to like it.
Great review and comparison. I have been trying to get the Sportage hybrid for a month now but there are none available even to test drive. I went to order one and the dealer markup in Virginia is about $5000 above MSRP. Makes you wonder if things are going to get back to normal and you can pay MSRP. I definitely like the new interior of the Sportage. It handles really well and the look is great.
Try test driving Subaru Forest, the dealer in Ohio (Subaru CEO telling dealership only sell for MSRP for new order) charge MSRP if ordering. I do have to wait up to 3 months.
moving to the mountains with gravel roads. Forester ROCKS!
Love the masker outdoors by himself fueling up @ 9:55 😂
the 2.5L boxer engine with cut and awd is incredibly efficient. I have a 2015 and it's very nice. instead of simply saying the controls of the Kia are "modern" I'd like to better understand the actual benefits of the controls, which are mostly touch sensitive. is this a gimmick to make the interior appear modern or are their actual benefits?
I'm an American but I pronounce Sportage like the Canadians (rhymes with portage).
Yeah, the Subaru is looking like a 2016 vehicle and a CVT with 4 wheel drive. And for those that tell me a CVT is fine.... we have one CVT car in this household.... at 105,000 km it needed replacing.
Was it a JATCO CVT?
@@wyw201 Well, that is a good question, the car is a Toyota CR-H - I am not much into repairing my cars myself anymore.
My 2011 Outback with 2.5 4 cyl. and CVT now has 279,000 miles on it, Doesn't use oil and tranny is fine. All original.
Is Subaru using jatco transmissions same company who makes it for nissan?
No, in-house unit
@@Motormouth... thanks and great work guys
Interesting that the U.S gets the better standard Warranty.
If Subaru could drop the C vt and go back to 6 speed Automatic, subie would outsell all other small suvs combined.
While Subaru is brand I adore, the forester never strike me as something I want to drive…why not drive CR-V? The design and driving experience is so blah. While being a simple does not equate to bland and forester is just to bland for my taste. Why not go with smaller engine Outback?
The Forester has been and remains the FUGLIEST SUV for over 20 years now. I had to endure the previous gen model as a company vehicle for 2 1/2 years. Materials were cheap and it was by far the least favorite car I've ever owned.
I have a pug.
I made the choice ten days ago. I bought the Subaru. I don't put much stock in what JD Power thinks but Consumer Reports has yet to steer me wrong and the Forester is one of their highest rated vehicles.
Lost me at CVT transmission translation slug to drive. Destroyed a fantastic car. Brought a Sportage diesel with a real automatic transmission
Both adequate, but my Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk, similarly priced, drives circles around them. Too bad no one ever reviews it!
@Level 70 no issues, but clearly not as great on mpg. It has a V6.
@Level 70 🥵lol
I am now going to call it Sportage not Sportage!
Subaru Forester.. very old style
the 2,5 l forester doesn't only look oldschool, it is. EU emission regulation banned this stinker
I swear car manufacturers are having a showdown in recent years to see who can make the ugliest front end!
In the UK its the same pronunciation as Canada for the kia Sportage.
Andrea is great; that guy she is with kind of looks like Urban Meyer.
Kia's styling and interior is better.. I'd still go the forester for the better handling and drive quality even for mainly road use.
Subaru forever \m/
Kia for almost everything... but I can't like that front end, it's too busy.
If you’ve owned a Hyundai or Kia you know that failures occur after 4 years, door levers, window switches, door locking mechanisms and then ignition coils and finally A/C failure… Stay tuned!
How long until the Kia's engine catches fire? Forester all the way for me.
The consumer reports word on the Kia Sportage is a 3/5 as far as reliability with only 48% of owners saying they’d buy it again.
That's for old model.
Your sources don't seem accurate. Like, at all. Many of us are in fact, repeaters. For a reason.
Sportaaaage sounds so pompous and pretentious.
The forester does offer wireless carplay and Android auto
I don't think so. It is not on my 2023 Forester Limited.
Subaru has really good ratings in most segments so i recommend! KIA looks so ugly that if i wanted to buy a unique car id go for the new Mitsubishi outlander phev. Kias dont last many years either as they arent as reliable nomatter how much jd power lies about it.
If you want a car that might catch on fire get a Kia Sportage 🤣🤣😜 also don’t park it in your garage.
Carry a fire extinguisher and park next to fire hall !
the Subaru Forester is ugly af .
KIA looks hideous
Subaru lacks updated interior still using outdated analog gauges and cheap buttons, ugly door switches and a CVT that has Recalls in every model and again Horrible Infotainment . Despite the Bullshit saying that the Kia is above MSRP that only relates to certain dealers across certain states but Subaru does the same thing you Morons marking the Outback up and especially the Ugly Outdoors. I will take a Real Transmission over a Crappy CVT any day and Kia far more Reliable over Subaru now in rankings. Subaru has declined over the years and especially with the over priced recall after recall of the Ascent . As for AWD even though one is passive and fulltime I would put the HTRAC up against the AWD of the Subaru any day.
LMAO. glad you didn’t hold back on your hate for Subaru. 🤣