Sometimes You Just Have to Click "Call"
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- A Fast talking call from Connecticut connects today to discuss a 3 bet pot where he makes the nut flush and thinks about folding the river to a bet-3bet jam. What will happen?
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I love this play from the villain. The caller read it correctly. He blocks KK and has all the rest of range 77, and 33. I'd take it as a compliment to the caller. You can't run a bluff like that against an idiot.
Yup. Big stones play of the week from villain.
Id snap
I think 77 and 33 would raise like 80%-90% on the flop since Heros threebet contains so many strong kings. When he doesn’t the risk of him having those hands decreases dramatically. Hence call.
100%
Meh, depends how much villain is planning to check-raise with draws/bluffs/etc. He's gonna want to call K73dd at a range disadvantage with a decent amount of hands, those hands need to be protected by just calling with 33 and 77.
So if you make your calling range in this spot KK only, you're overfolding lol. I'm even more tempted to bluff hero with Kx at this point given he has only one combo of KK left and I'm getting called 1% of the time. EDIT: and now I heard the reveal, man i'm even more loling. If you perceive yourself as a nit, you are getting bluffed more often than you think because you can't have it on a lot of situations.
if you take it back to preflop, villain has all the suited broadways in his defend range and a lot of medium pairs in theory, so he has to have some Kx and some flush here more than boats in theory on this river. What he decides to bet call are probably QJ and JT flushes since he blocks the suited Ax in hero's range and AKs is impossible. And his defend range vs half pot should be around this. he has to fold some things on the flop so that leaves him with more middle pairs that he will bet fold, flushes he will bet call/fold and boats for bet shoves. Balancing Kx here is perfect. Hero doesn't even have the nut advantage here, he has to find a call with some hands that aren't boats.
Very well summarized!
Great play from Villain. Hard to find bluffs here.
Is it? You can discount KK, then if it’s only 77 or bluff you gotta find a call
@@moneymikz it’s a good fold. Kk or 77 plays this the exact way. Just have to fold and move on.
@@babyed69 you can not fold every nut flush here, then you are over folding. but A5 would be a "lower" nut flush so if he would call AQ-A10 then i get behind folding some nutflushes.
So im realy on the fence but you have to call down liniar for sure.
and Yes Villain is a pro.
Villain’s bluff was KThh. If he’s going to turn a lot of his weaker Kx hands into bluffs that’s surely more bluffs than value?
KK sometimes gets 4-bet and 77 sometimes raises flop so I don’t think he gets to the river with all 6 combos.
not to nitpick, but we don't nearly have enough info to know if this is a great play or not. vs some opponents it will be, vs some it wont. plus frequency matters too.
It was frustrating to learn that hero folded this because with the hand as played I would never really consider folding here. Just seems like a very clear calling situation. I think it's really important to keep in mind that your opponent can read you too and can try to use that read against you.
You simply can't fold that mathematically speaking.. great play
Great bluff from villain if he thinks hero is capable of folding flushes here, this is such an under-bluffed spot so don't really fault hero from folding without much prior information.
I'm confused why the turn play was glossed over so quickly. Maybe it's just me, but I'm double barreling this turn 100% of the time at about 3/4 pot given heros specific hand. I think vill from EP will 4Bet almost all KK/AK from OOP. There's so much pressure you can put on Kx with a very low risk of getting x/r. You have outs if vill ends up with Kx and you can build a pot to cooler lower flushes.
Yes sometimes you just have to call otherwise you are too exploitable. Happened to me last week. 2/5 game I get pocket kings on button only $300 behind. It folds to MP also 300. He raises to 40 I reraise to 100. He reraises all in . I say "I am pretty sure what you have but I have to call". I call the all in. His AA holds up to beat my KK. It happens.
pretty reasonably played hand all around. hero will have to call this river sometimes and fold sometimes depending on villains tendencies. villains bluff could be genius or awful or anywhere in between depending on skill of hero. like another commenter said, you cant make this play against everybody.
the most shocking part for me is that villain sold his info for $20. i feel like if youre capable of making a play like this and you play against hero even semi-regularly you should probably keep that to yourself. idk i suppose you could do it with the intent of not running a bluff like this vs hero for a LONG LONG time. but youre probably going to want to bluff him in spots like this a lot more than going for value in spots like this going forward.
Hero is eventually going to start calling in these spots if villain continues to jam against him on river.
These villains don't understand how much worth is knowing their hand.
His value range as played is 77, 66(unlikely), and maybe even 33(1 combo). His bluff range is AK, KQ, maybe KJ or K10 suited, smaller flushes with suited connectors, maybe even KQ offsuit with 1 diamond or A3 suited clubs. His value range is so narrow that I am not sure I could fold unless the guy was a total nit where I can eliminate a lot of the bluff hands and bring KK into his value range.
The longer you think about this on the river the more folds you talk yourself into.
If it’s 7s on nuthin you gotta find a call ☎️
Probably pretty close to 100% 4betting KK preflop. But I also imagine he doesn't check raise 77 on the flop very often either. $20 well spent. Change tables.
Excellent bluff and not the worst fold either. Decent play from both even if the hero looks a bit daft at the end. Think I might have folded too ( unless I was drunk )
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I absolutely called the bluff. A king without a Diamond. He unblocks all the high flushes and blocks the nuts vs a tight player. With at most 5 combos, more like 2 or 3, actual value combos that make sense here all you have to ask if he’s capable because if he is he has a bluff or two.
Rough fold, but really a phenomenal bluff I have to say.
Totally agree with Bart that this river is a raise, not a call. But I cannot raise-fold in this spot. If hero had a smaller flush, then maybe raise-fold is an option.
I don't understand the part about the villain leading the river. Was the villain hoping to get called by pocket queens or pocket jacks?
It actually could be a really good play for various reasons as I think about it.
Villain bet small on the river. I probably would go a tad smaller. Like $175-200. You could get called by Queens and jacks. It's very likely the hero bet his entire range on the flop including queens and jacks. If the hero raises the river you can rep KK and 77. Sometimes as a trap you can slow play pocket kings by only calling a three bet from out of position. You could easily have pocket sevens opening with them and calling a three bet.
Very interesting.
It all depends on your frequency. If you're bluffing in that situation too often people will begin to pick up patterns and then anyone that's somewhat aware will adjust. Making your play a liability. As others will begin to capitalize off your frequency pattern.
It's important to recognize when other people are recognizing what your up too. Adjust before they adjust.
I don't think it is a value bet spot here where he is targeting a specific hand. Like they said on the call, it's a polarized spot where he either has a monster or a bluff. If he is a solid pro then more often than not he should have the nuts, but has to bluff enough (especially when blocking the nuts) that opponents will have a difficult time making a decision. While he may lose sometimes when called in this bluff situation, he should also get called more often when he has the nuts.
I think you exactly identified what villian was up to on the river. You get a lot of calls for value there from the type of hands you identified and if you get raised you can evaluate the size and you have this great shove bluff spot in your pocket. Great play.
@@adamseidel9780 Indeed! I actually think it's the best play.
But I say this. People don't like to fold. Unless the hero is a total nit and over folds it might be lighting money on fire.
I guess it all depends on the table Dynamics.
If villain tried this move and the perception of villain was he is really aggressive I don't know if people will fold at a high enough frequency. Opposed to if villain was really tight I could see that garnering more folds.
And of course it depends on the hero and how tight he is.
So there's a lot of factors that go into play when making certain decisions.
Try to identify what players over call and overfold. Exploit those weaknesses. Whether it be playing passive and checking to the players that over call. And putting more pressure on the ones who overfold.
Yeah that sounds like Mohegan. You won't ever see bluffs like that at Foxwoods.
You definitely don’t see that at 1/2 NL lol.
Except from the occasional maniac who overbluffs and/or overvalues, you're right.
I really don't see why so many say this is a good bluff, if you fold A high flushes you're folding way too much, what are you realisitcally calling with? KK and 77? There are so few combos of value that villain has compared to bluffs/overplayed hands.
If the villain is portioning his bluffs properly then he actually has it more often than not and only has a bluff like this 30% or less of the time. Showing the bluff or getting called here would only give him a better chance of getting called when he has the nuts later. Since he blocks KK villain only has to worry about calls from 77 and A high flushes which is a pretty narrow range. Whether he is called or not this can be a profitable play in the long run as long as he balances his bluffs with value hands.
I would have genuinely snap called. Not because I put him on K 10 of hearts though LOL but if the nut flush loses here to 7s it's a cooler or some bizarre K3 or other boat. But so many 3s and lower flushes will play exactly the same way. Never fold the nut flush unless you have mountains of info on your villain.
100% agree.
77 & 33 is raising the flop, he doesn’t have KK. Between an overplayed 45, a smaller flush, and a plethora of 1 card diamond blocking bluff combos. I’m sry but if you have 66 congrats here…but also note villian checked river, and if u have 66 or any FH here, you aren’t checking the river after opponent(hero) checks the turn back.
But villain didn't check river, they led and got raised, then 3 bet all in
@@danielwilliams9753 o gotcha I thought villian checked river. Yeah that makes it a tougher call for sure but villian is basically only repping 66 at this point, which should be a call. I just can’t imagine anyone folding this if this was online.
Really good points
Oh ya...I had 7 10 c. I raise preflop. And I flopped an open ended straight flush draw with a duece on the flop. I bet the flop. Villain calls. Then the duece of clubs comes on the turn pairing the board giving me a flush. Then I was sizing up. And Villain jams. I just paused for a second then snap called. He had 96d..and flopped top pair. My flush held up.
Don't hear from Mohegan Sun players on here very often.
77 is definitely possible. But that’s it for value really. Q high flushes are also possible. And a few rando bluffs. Kinda a snap call situation. Like yea, once in a while you’ll see 77 but at 2:1 you’ll have the best hand profitably without even have to count combos.
Agreed it’s 7s or nothing so you have to call, I don’t know why everyone is saying it’s a great bluff
That’s what the tight player gets. Bluffed off the winning hand. That’s a snap call!!! Bad call or not. You got it ok you got it! Call!
I agree not bad either way but that’s a heads up play on the villains side to recognize he didn’t have any boats/ blocked it to one combo. And also to recognize he’s probably folding flushes.
All u gotta do is realize he’s capable and call down next time I guess
Caller needs to know the phrase “so be it”
thats just what bad players say when they're not disciplined enough to make a big fold
@@frankringwald4315 given how he thinks he is perceived by villain, he has to find non nutted calls.
@@frankringwald4315 i agree but for the nitty player like myself, sometimes u just gotta remind yourself of that. Nitty fold or big fold, there is a fine line
77 doesn't raise the flop w/ a flush draw on board and knowing there's AK / AA / A high flush draws out there? K3 is almost assuredly out, 66 wouldn't stick around and I'm assuming KK gets 4bet 80%+ pre. I think you have to call down as played because I think the villain having a boat is a lower probability than him bluffing, especially at 2:1.
I can't imagin myself folding on the river, the river bet on the flip was quite small ans the villain didn't check raise that bet,. I would have thought a set of 77s would have put in a small raise, as if the villain was a good player and as hero said the villain thought he was tight, there's far too many AK and AA to get value from, in the villain's perspective.
Moving onto the river, the villain's bet sizing wasn't exactly polarising, felt more like a KQ or KJ hand to me, I'm not sure what went through the Villain's mind to 3bet stack himself on the River, but I feel it was to get hands like AA and AK to fold, and had the Villain known Hero had the nut flush he wouldn't have attempted this play
Is the river REALLY as underbluffed as Bart says it is?
At 5/10, I don't know.
In many smaller games, YES, unless you're up against maniacs, in which case these spots can be overbluffed or they overvalue too many hands.
Yet, we wonder why players “just call” in spots like this when a player donk leads on the river (specifically on a paired board)? This is why
If you raise on a paired board… if they often times fold worse, or jam with better (or jam as a bluff where you will raise/fold to said jam like in the Bill Klein hand where he donk lead river on a similar board…) I don’t see how raising for the times we will get called by worse is justified.
If before deciding to reopen the action you ask yourself (will I call a jam?) and the answer is No… then it’s not worth it.
If you answer, (seeing that I’m too high up in my range…) Yes, I will raise/call if he jams (accepting that I will lose some of the time.) if that’s the case, go ahead and raise. Otherwise, I just don’t think it’s worth it.
Not saying this is what the hero did in this scenario, but I shake my head whenever I see a player bet, or raise and freeze not knowing what to do when they get raised as though they never ever considered that possibility.
I think this is bad logic. Let's say you know if you raise you won't call a jam. Let's further assume that your raise will get called, or your opponent will fold 95% of the time. You're printing EV in that scenario, even if you get put into a tough spot where your opponent jams over your raise some percentage of the time (5% in this thought experiment).
Of course I'm not claiming that in this specific scenario he's good 95% of the time, I just mean that we shouldn't let the prospect of facing a difficult decision lead us to avoid making the correct moves.
This is why? This is why we should call live when people have virtually no real value hands. Because they don't find logical bluffs, they simply decide they want to bluff. So they have way more bluffs than they should.
@@iamamish I agree. I’m all about thin value extraction on the river. I’m speaking to the specific configuration on a paired board as the aggressor on previous streets where the out of position player leads into you on the river. Exploitatively, it’s more often than not a nut hand when it’s a big bet or a small bet meant to induce a raise from you into their nut hand.
The times they are block betting and haven’t folded to your raise (calling with worse) are too few in this specific configuration in my opinion is all I’m saying.
If 95% of the time you’re good and he folds anyways, you’re not really printing that much ev between the few occasions he calls with worse when compare to the occasions he bluff jams and you fold. It doesn’t always need to be more complex than that. Calling is as poker simplified as the K.I.S.S. principal in these cases.
Calling seems to be the most +ev play to me.
My logic isn’t driven out of being afraid of making a difficult decision. It doesn’t mean we should manifest it and put ourselves in these kinds of spots unnecessarily either.
I Agree with betting rivers and accept value cutting happens. This paired board out of position lead is one of the few exceptions in my opinion.
Great hand
I don't think I am folding ace high flush, but i probably would if I had a smaller flush
A tough call to make but I think you just have to sigh and do it with the nut flush unless you have info about the villain that changes the decision. If you know villain is uncapable of 3bet bluffing in this spot it changes things.
The guy should never of shown his hand there unless he plans to just go for pure value for the rest of eternity (or move states), just flick over the king and pretend you're pretending you were bluffing, perhaps even a hand or 2 later say "of course I had it, you nuts!?!?"
It's a polarizing bet. They want the call in that situation more often than not if they are playing it properly and have the nuts more often than they bluff that spot. Showing the bluff will help them get called later when they actually have it.
@@brianbasham3517 IME for the most part in live games you want as much bluff equity as possible because thats whats lacking, getting value is the straight forward part of the game, well timed bluffs in situations where your story makes sense need to get through, once you show good players you're capable of sophisticated bluffs and weak players you're just a "big bluffer" you have to make hands, the problem is you don't make enough hands and getting weak players to put their money in is not an issue to begin with, getting these effers to fold is the struggle
King x is the perfect hand to turn into bluff. Blocking top set. When you play against good players who understand ranges this is very profitable spot. Even turning 2 pairs or even trips into bluffs blocking a lot of full houses. And trust me it works. There is a hand on live at the bike few months ago where between Viktor and the mad genius where viktor turned his trip 4s into a bluff and made mad genius golf nut flush. It’s becoming a norm now a days . Turning made pair , two pair or trips into bluff is the most profitable spot in poker right now .
Come on guy that’s a bit of an overstatement. The most profitable spot is 3 betting good hands and value betting. It will always be that. This bluff was very sharp but players with proper bankrolls are never folding here.
I am not talking about a single hand . In general over a lot of hands. You didn’t get the point on a broader scale that I am trying to make. Of course value betting and three betting will print you money. But also realize you will also be on the receiving end half the time. Why I call this is as profitable is because most of the poker world hasn’t caught up to this strategy of turning pairs and two pairs into bluffs . That’s why it’s profitable . When most of the poker world catches up to it , it won’t be profitable anymore. For example back in the day when three betting range used to be aces , kings , aceking, queens and jacks. So people who started three betting bluffs at that time printed money because it was ahead of other peoples perceived ranges. But now because every one understands that three betting range is much much wider in this era it’s no longer as strong of a tool because you will equally be on receiving end of it. This is how poker evolves .
Come on it's pure fancy play syndrome. This bullshit almost minclick otr by the caller is likely 100% value. He could have bluffs, but when he goes this small it's a very valueheavy range. Note that also many people in the comments advocate for flatting river. When you 3b bluff here you target two types of hands, bluffs and thin valuebets. The caller probably has way less of both than gto, so what happens is you 3b shove into a range that's mostly nut flushes and some q/j hi flushes. Fair enough, he got the guy to herofold the nut flush now, but in general to make these plays profitable you need a decent amount of snapfolds from your opponent, and this clearly isn't the case here. There is a reason why low stakes/old school people don't pull these moves often. It's because against their average underbluffing, thin-value-missing opponent it is suicide. Most profitable play my ass, you just beat these stakes by valuebetting.
@@kellegyheadshot Exactly. I’m snapping this off and planning on reloading when the guy has a boat. This is not profitable long term at low to mid stakes. Turning 2 pair plus in to a bluff on certain boards is also a good play. But not bluff jamming in to an obvious flush or better.
@@rocky2324rocky I dunno man. At most stakes I don’t see this working. 95% of people are playing their two cards. Especially with a proper bank roll. Good luck to ya but I think is a disaster waiting to happen.
You gotta call this. If you convince yourself to fold the nut flush is spots like this, you get exploited over time. Take the occasional beat on hands like this, but you'll win more often than you lose over the long run.
4th. nuts is not a insta call.
It's not 4th nuts. If we exclude 66, there are still 19 combos of KK, 77, and 33 that beat him. KK is not likely as there was no pre-flop 4 bet but it's still there with some non-zero frequency from players that like to mix it up. It would have been good to know if the villain was closing the action pre-flop. In that case, I'd say KK is way more likely. Either way, the nut flush is far from the 4th nuts.
@@intrepidus3378 If you rule out the other preposterous hands of the 19 you allude to, Hero has the 4th nuts.
Idk where we got the idea that villain can’t overplay something
Holy batshit MrDrBatman
Yeah I'm calling 90% of the time here
I call every time
Can I just say how do you fold there with the nut flush when the only hand the villain beats you with is 77. 33 and 66 is super rare
I usually don't raise for value to fold when the spot is bluffable. If not, I only flat if I think I can't get called by worse and jammed only by better.
snap that off so quickly? why you ask bc fuck it, i refuse to be bluffed
I bet 1.5x pot on turn, many will fold even KQ to that size.
Yeah I don't know what that guy's doing I'm calling that all damn day long!!
V played the opponent, H played his own cards. And badly, too. So, who won?
If you have it,you got it. I call.....
Can we also analyze the hand from Villains perspective? I don't understand the river bet at all. Was he already setting up the bluff assuming Hero holds a flush? Is he trying to get value from ... idk ... TT..JJ?
It's a polarized situation where he is representing the nuts or a bluff. He bluffs here knowing he will get some calls and lose as well as get some folds and win. The main goal is to get more calls when he has the nuts which he should have more often than not. If he has the nuts 70% of the time and a bluff 30% and gets called 50% of the time then he is making some good money off of this play.
@@brianbasham3517 So, after hero checks back the turn and villain decides to bet KT, this bet already was a bluff? If that was a bluff, then he must have the intention to fold something out, that beats KT. But what beats KTt hat does not follow through on the turn? I would think hero bets AA, AK, KQ. So I guess my question becomes: Which hands in heroes range that get to the river does he think, he can make fold? I am not talking about the 3-Bet on the river, but only about the initial bet.
@@hanspetervollhorst1 I would assume villians initial river bet was for value, since hero checked back turn. Villian could have been going for value from medium pps. Once he got raised, he probably concluded heros raising range was heavily weighted towards high flushes (since hero said himself he is a tighter player, he probably doesnt 3bet 77, 66, 33 preflop, and he blocks kk to only 1 combo)
Not sure I agree with trying to bluff someone off of a flush though (even on a paired board), gotta have a very specific player type and a very specific image for this to be a +ev play, just dont think it's worth it.
I don't see how you ever think about folding here when basically the only hand you lose to is pocket 7s. I mean there is absolutely zero other hand that makes sense. Kings should always 4b pre. 6s should just go away on the flop most of the time. I mean so your just gonna fold to 1 hand that beats you?
If you run into this, find easier games to play!
I don't know how you can believe this guy is turning a king high flush into a bluff. Just a live fish putting you on ace King or aces or worsh flushes
Posting without knowing the result:
Villain checked the turn and bet 2/3 pot on the river with a monster without seriously deep stacks ? ? ?
Really ?
Also, I disagree with the idea that he can't have a lower flush.
Unlikely ? Maybe.
Impossible ? I don't think so.
Bottom line: I snap call
Why is Bart so dismissive of the chance villain has 66? That seems the most likely value hand to me. 77 surely raises the flop?
Either way seems like it has to be a call since otherwise hero is only calling with KK.
I thought he had a 3 and I am calling, but nice bluff.
Raising into a paired board without a boat. Risky.
Yeah with the card removal, I think I just have to call. If you don't 4 bet with KK pre flop you deserve all my money
Is he kidding ?? How often do people jam with a full house? I would say pretty darn often. If you think people worry about set over set get back to basics.
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It feels like every other call ends with Bart going "OMG I can't believe he had that."
I think that every analysis of a live poker hand should include all the hands that make sense for villain to have from a hand reading prospective + 20%-50% of "some super random shit". Also when calculating pot odds, you should include the probability that the other guy has "some super random shit". This is why this is always a call on the river.
okay so I am not the only one to think that there is a % of shit and another of super shit that we should always put in the calculation. The question is: how to quantify that %?
@@lorenzopileri9549 I think that would depend on player type. Obviously a maniac is going to have a lot more random shit than a nit.
That’s why smooth calling is fine/ better play. Id fold here to if I was the caller. He definitely wasn’t calling a reraise w 2 pair anyway so your greed cost you $1000.
$1390 he lost. If he called he wins $690 in the pot, but he lost additional $700 for raising then fold.
I call BS on this being a bluff. Villian is just overplaying. Same reason for leading the river.
Caller got izzzowned!
No 4B Pre, no KK. I don't see 77 ever check-calling that flop especially when it's not top set. I would think the villain had QJdd or QTdd and knew he had 2 blockers to big suited Aces and overvalued his hand. Def don't give him credit for a flopped set. It's a call.
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What's up Matt lol
That is so sick. omg
can A3 ever be turned to a bluff here?
Doubt it. You don’t block flushes or houses
@@moneymikz never. The 3 blocker is 1000% irrelevant lol. Doesn't block anything. Hero never 3 betting 33. Given this configuration and pre flop action, any K X hand is the best to turn into bluff here. Even 7x shouldn't.
‘Indian names’ c’mon Bart.
Standard river call. Get wrecked
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I would call like a donk, but if it had been me he would have showed up with 77 because I am an obvious station.
Terrible fold. It’s actually insane to me the stakes these players play at with how far they are constantly deviating from a base MDF strategy. You are going to have to tell me what are your calls in this spot if the nut flush is a fold. Making large deviations where you are folding out 90% of your holdings because you can’t put your opponent on a hand you beat is generally not good strategy. This type of analysis is supposed to tip the scales a few percentages.
Seems like the villian knew the heroes all in defending range was weak and went for a massive exploit.
This is an example of over thinking a hand. I would have probably flat called the river unless I had a read on him.
flat calling the river is gonna be way worse than raise folding in the long run.
@@frankringwald4315 I’m not talking about the long run or balanced play. I’m talking about reading the specific hand and player.
@@markgothard7158 Reading the Player lmao... Fancy way of saying you're guessing and hoping for the best.
no. flatcalling the river is really really bad. this is a clear value raise vs almost every opponent ever.
@@frankringwald4315 In the old days we looked for tells. I’m from the old days. Mike Caros book of tells is a great book. I’ve got a lot of respect for the new poker methodologies. But young people tend to dismiss the old ways. I see some holes in the new ways, this video specifically listening to Bart. And I’m not going to explain it to you you will learn the hard way if we meet on the table. I started playing poker in 1984 and read many books by 2+2 publishing.
Pretty stupid fold. As played, what the hell is villain showing up with here?
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